Asian Americans’ Shopping Habits Make Retailers’ Eyes Light Up

Anh Do, Los Angeles Times, December 5, 2013

In her Tory Burch flats and carrying the requisite Burberry bag, Linda Mar eyes the buttery leather designer purses, pausing to click off the labels: Phillip Lim. Chloe. Prada.

“I want the name brands,” the Taiwanese immigrant says, as she wanders the aisles of Saks Fifth Avenue at South Coast Plaza.

Mar is part of an emerging class of Asian Americans, identified as the “swayable shopaholics,” who now rank as the most prolific and impulsive buyers in the United States, according to a Nielsen report released Thursday.

They prefer Costco over Walmart, choose brand names over generics and lead the nation as a demographic in online buying. As a group, their spending power outpaces the coveted millennials—those in their 20s and early 30s, according to Nielsen’s “Significant, Sophisticated and Savvy: the Asian American Consumer 2013 Report.”

Asian Americans have a median household income of $63,400 compared with the general population’s $49,600, and are 54% more likely to earn incomes in excess of $100,000.


Mac Gutierrez, pushing a cart loaded with coffee, steak and soda at a Costco in Fountain Valley, said he seeks good deals because his family shares their home with his in-laws.

“But even when I’m buying a lot, I want the best product for what I’m paying,” said the Filipino immigrant, reflecting a study trend showing that Asian Americans are unwilling to sacrifice quality for price, even when looking for value for their money.

By 2017, Asian Americans are expected to reach $1 trillion in consumer buying power, “showing their influence and the need for marketers to continue to offer culturally relevant materials,” said Betty Lo, vice president of public affairs for Nielsen.


The results show that the need for culturally sensitive programming and services for Asian Americans is critical, she said, with nearly 70% of the population speaking a language other than English at home. Chinese ranks as the second-most frequently used foreign language in the U.S., after Spanish, with 2.6 million speakers.


When it comes to consumers like Mar, who splashes out on designer wear, the term “swayable shopaholic” is an adjective referring to “informed shoppers,” those willing to switch brands if they believe another brand offers more quality, notes Frank Piotrowski, Nielsen’s senior vice president working in measurement science.

The report said that 35% of those surveyed identified as being a “swayable shopaholic.”


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  • borogirl54

    When I lived in San Francisco, I used to see Chinese women dressed shabbily but they were carrying a Louis Vuitton bag. I never really understood this. Now I do after reading this article.

    • Whitetrashgang

      That wasn’t a Chinese woman it was johnny.

    • pcmustgo

      Those are the poor ones.

    • Oil Can Harry

      Asian women : the top shoppers.

      Blacks: the top shoplifters.

  • Marc Zuckurburg

    It’s time for comprehensive immigration reform.

    Comprehensive immigration reform will raise wages and salaries, strengthen national security, prevent terrorism, enhance our domestic crime-fighting ability, ensure that we continue to encourage the best and brightest to partake of the American dream, enhance our competitiveness and our ability to innovate, and make America more prosperous.

    Make my immigration reform comprehensive, please!

  • Strike_Team

    This probably ties in with the incredible number of Asians who are addicted to gambling. Years ago the local press in LA did a story on that, then all mention of it was silenced because the info was “racist”. They are far more likely to have gambling problems than whites. Also more likely to be arrested for gambling related crimes than whites, but for some reason this is never mentioned, not even at this site.

    • pcmustgo

      Yes, the only time I ever heard about tri-state casinos here in NYC was from my chinese-american ex-friend. She was down to her last $300 and wanted to go, and also mentioned her Filipino friends would gamble, win, then gamble away the winnings, then wind up sleeping in the parking lot of the casino for the night.

      • Strike_Team

        I’ve been through the same. The story I mentioned told about business owners who would take the earnings for the day to the local casinos here in Commerce, Gardena and so on and blow the money, then sleep in their cars. A side note – there are two main reasons the casinos in Vegas hire a lot of Asian card dealers; a lot of Asians from overseas do not trust non-Asian dealers or feel they are bad luck. And a lot of the dealers are themselves gambling addicts. They want to live and work in Las Vegas and feel it gives them an edge, along with taking their tips from the day straight to the tables across the street after work. They’re only smart in certain ways lol.

        • willbest

          That is because they feel the Asian dealer will do his or her absolute best to help them out. Its exceptionally tribal.

      • LudwigvonDrake

        That’s why they call it Lost Wages, NV.

    • borogirl54

      I agree. I once worked for Trailways bus company. Every week, we would send as many as 15 buses to Chinatown in San Francisco for 12 hour turnarounds to Reno. These people would be taken to Reno, given coupons for free food and discounted travel. They would gamble for many hours, while the driver slept in a motel room. He would pick them up and take them back to Chinatown.

    • WR_the_realist

      I think it was mentioned in some Amren article that illegal gambling is just about the only kind of crime that East Asians commit more frequently than whites.

      • Jefferson

        And gambling is a victimless non violent crime just like having sex with an adult prostitute and smoking marijuana.

        I would not put gambling in the same category as the violent knock out games for example.

        • WR_the_realist

          I agree that illegal gambling is far from being the worst sort of crime. Although it’s not non-violent if you fail to pay your gambling debts to the local gangster.

      • Chip Carver

        What is not mentioned is the percentage of Asians who are addicted to gambling. It’s literally incredible.

    • NeanderthalDNA

      The sales hype may affect the same brain areas as gambling. I wonder if it’s easier to up-sell to them?

  • pcmustgo

    Ok, so goes along with our stereotype of money-hungry, status-obsessed Asian women marrying successful but nerdy white guys. The real reason John Engelman doesn’t have an Asian wife yet.

    • JohnEngelman

      That hurts. 🙁

      • Spartacus

        The truth usualy does…

      • pcmustgo

        I’m sorry, sweetie, it was just a joke. I shouldn’t have mentioned you by name like that. Idk, on the one hand, I hear Asian women will take any white guy because they are white obssesed, on the other hand I hear it’s only white guys with money… hmmm….

    • Anglokraut


  • pcmustgo

    Asian women, for better or worse, and I suppose for the better in terms of feminine appearance, are much more likely than (frumpy) white women to be fashionistas…. that’s for sure. In college, I knew of many a Korean mother with a $3,000 chanel bag who wouldn’t rent a motel room when visiting their kids in NYC… would crash on their couch.

    “choose brand names over generics”- People who pay more for name brands are stupid…. generics are usually just as good for almost everything.

    • borogirl54

      I guess it is a means for them to show off their wealth. BTW, I always buy generics since I would rather pay less than the brand names charge.

      • pcmustgo

        Me too… I buy almost generic everything, save tons of money that way.

    • Luke N

      Asians are smart, but I don’t think as smart as whites, to be honest.

      Look at Asian art. mostly 2D stuff. Look at European art. Google it and see the difference.

      They are generally intelligent but very, very few geniuses. Because they have lower genetic variability.

      • “Look at Asian art. mostly 2D stuff.”

        Layered backgrounds are not 2D, but Picasso was entirely 2D if you ignore his early years as a traditional painter.

        Picasso was strongly influenced by Ancient Egyptian tomb art. And after viewing the 25,000 year old cave paintings at Lascaux he said, regarding art, “We have learned nothing.”

    • Jefferson

      Pcmustgo you are dead wrong that Asian women will only date a White guy if he has a lot of money.

      I am White and I currently have an Asian girlfriend. I work as a cashier at Barnes & Noble, so I am not exactly part of the affluent 1 percent.

      • pcmustgo

        I said I wasn’t sure. I heard it both ways. Well maybe you’re a really good looking white guy? Hmm, with a name like Jefferson, I always imagined you’d be some finance/hedge fund type.

    • LudwigvonDrake

      They are willing to work 24/7. Think of how much she was earning while she was sleeping in relative comfort. Enough to pay for . . . wait for it . . . a Chanel bag.

    • me

      You can’t buy self-esteem, which is usually what this is about.

    • Jefferson

      I have a hard time believing you live in New York City if you never see White women with brand name Chanel bags.

      In rich upscale Manhattan brand stores, White women are a dime a dozen. You see as much White women in these stores as you see Black yoofs at Footlocker.

      • pcmustgo

        Right, but overall, when you average in those glamorous white women with the frumpier more feminist /hipster types, etc, overall, Asian women are much more likely to be into feminine fashion. To be fashionistas. They seem to all be, whereas with white women, there’s a lot of girls hanging out at the thrift shop or who are just clueless about fashion.

  • pcmustgo

    It also goes along with the concept of them being conformists… needing to all buy certain brands. But of course whites aren’t immune to that either. It seems most immigrant groups, nouveau riche types have the need for this brand-name thing. I remember back at my asian-heavy college, the wealthier asian girls wore all prada… even to bed.

    • Jefferson

      Go to any college campus and the vast majority of White students there are conformists as well. Conformists to left wing ideology.

  • willbest

    All Hat and no cattle. Been in some very big Asian houses that had not a lot of stuff in them. What they show you isn’t always an indication of what they really have.

    I personally prefer to live modestly and then be able to survive a black swan event myself.

    • LudwigvonDrake

      Read The Millionaire Next Door by Thomas Stanley, Ph.D. and William Danko, Ph.D. They set out to mine an MIT database of every subdivision in the U.S. and conducted focus group interviews. What they learned is so fascinating that it surprised even them.

      People who spend money on high end consumer items do it for a variety of psychological reasons, but there’s one thing that virtually all of them have in common: a very poor personal balance sheet. Close to a zero, if not a negative net worth.

      Those who are in the process of accruing wealth, on the other hand, are never concerned with the acquisition of status symbols. Instead of singing the old show to “If I were a rich man”, they have modified the lyric. They prefer to sing “When I am a rich man . . . ”

      • The long and the short:

        Moderately wealthy people didn’t get that way by spending $400 on basketball shoes, and so on. It goes back to the old axiom that poor people have poor ways.

  • WR_the_realist

    So whites are the ones who buy most of the stuff at Walmart. Sadly, that means that whites are the group most responsible for outsourcing our jobs to China. I am quality conscious but not brand conscious. If I can find a better quality product made in America I buy it, even if it costs more.

    • I can appreciate your zeal for wanting to buy US-made products, but is it better in the long run for us as a nation if we buy shoes made in China by Chinese or shoes made in the United States by illegal Guatemalan criminal alien squat monster invaders?

      I am currently wearing a shirt made for “Field & Stream” in Cambodia. My boots are former East German military officer’s jackboots, but were reshod with Vibram soles and heels by a Korean guy here in Colorado Springs. My wife’s 1931 Model-A Ford has the engine and transmission out of my old 1983 Mazda RX-7 in it. I don’t think you’re going to untangle this anytime soon.

      • WR_the_realist

        You’re making the false assumption that every American manufacturer hires “Guatemalan criminal alien squat monster invaders”. I am of course opposed to any hiring of illegal aliens, I think employers who do that should go to jail.

        Walmart is cheap for three reasons:

        1. High volume and highly computerized logistics. Nothing wrong with that.

        2. Any manufacturer who wants to sell to them is ruthlessly negotiated down to a price he can only meet if he fires his American workers, moves the manufacturing to China or some other cheap labor location, and cheapens the product. My sister has noticed that a certain brand and type of fabric was sold cheaper at Walmart than at other stores, but also that the fabric was missing the final stage of finishing — is was the “same” item but was of poorer quality than it was at other stores. This is common with Walmart products.

        3. They pay their employees crap wages. It is not uncommon for full time Walmart employees to have to go on food stamps.

        So if you like the steady increase in economic inequality that has taken place in this country over the past 30 years, you’ll love two things:

        1. Our immigration policy.
        2. Walmart.

        • Do the IT and banking industries treat their employees any better than Wal Mart?

          I’m also a convicted federal felon on the Terrorist Watch List, so my days as the world’s best chemical engineer in the microelectronics industry are over. The industry has mostly left Colorado Springs, and since I’ll never have a security clearance again, even Lockheed-Martin is right out. Since that work had me in Stage-II hypertension at the age of 30, I don’t want to do their stuff anymore.

          Wal Mart is what we can afford.

          The same bosses who walked on eggshells around me used to swear at one of my co-workers really bad while chewing him out. I’d have killed them both stone dead if they’d tried that with me, and everybody at work knew it. I do not miss that level of tension one bit. In the late 1990s before my arrest by the FBI, I might have become a bit psychologically unsteady, but who made me that way?

          I believe we will stick with Wal Mart.

          • WR_the_realist

            While the IT industry is keen to hire as many H-1b workers as it can, at least those who have jobs in the industry generally earn more than enough to stay off of food stamps. So yes, IT companies generally treat their employees better than Walmart treats theirs.

  • Jefferson

    Gambling is about as much of a “serious” crime as having sex with a prostitute and smoking marijuana.

    Any small government person worth his or her salt would be in favor of legalizing gambling.

    • Sick of it

      You’d get along well with the Triads and the Yakuza.

      • Chip Carver

        Lol. Yes, they don’t realize how so many Asians are ADDICTED to gambling. It’s a mental problem.

    • newscomments70

      Many prostitutes are kept as sex slaves and are forced into the act against their will. It is not a victimless crime as many believe. Yes, there are prostitues who act voluntarily, but it is impossible to know based on superficial inspection.

    • Alexandra1973

      I don’t know about that.

      Back in the 90s I visited my stepsister in Reno. She told me how on payday you’d see people gamble away their entire paychecks in one night.

      It’s a crime to not provide for your family.

  • bigone4u

    These data confirm my casual observation that Asians are shallow and selfish. They really should go back to their homelands since everything we read says that America is finished and China and the Far East are the future. As to why they are so highly paid, all I can say is that the ones I met in academia were subservient, unlike the rebel with a cause here. If you suck up enough to certain people, you appear to be rewarded for it.

  • Chris Granzow XI

    Hong Kong is already a testament to asian consumerism. It’s only a matter of time before the rest of China follows in its foot steps.

  • Spartacus

    There are many things wrong with Asians, but I just can’t help liking some of them:

    • NeanderthalDNA

      Hitler understood East Asians were smart people with an impressive heritage.

      East and West form a beautiful Yin Yang ruined only by SOUTH.

      • Sick of it

        Hopefully that turns out to be a prophecy.

    • Marc Zuckurburg

      The time has come for comprehensive immigration reform.

      Comprehensive immigration reform will raise wages and salaries, strengthen national security, prevent terrorism, enhance our domestic crime-fighting ability, ensure that we continue to encourage the best and brightest to partake of the American dream, enhance our competitiveness and our ability to innovate, and make America more prosperous.

      Make my immigration reform comprehensive, please!

      • Massif1

        Marc – Chinese government planted your wife to steal Facebook secrets. Do you think any women, aside from the gold digging once, would actually marry a crazy douche like you?

  • Martel

    Asians are a servile people. This is consistent with Chinese citizenry, according to Engelman a superior people, yet trapped in a communist dictatorship. Understanding of the numerous evolutionary differences between the races is in its infancy, that much is clear.

    • Gazza Dawson

      China is more National Socialist than communist.

  • My wife is very thrifty. At 4’9″ Sayaka is small, even for a Japanese, so she buys her casual clothes at Wal Mart at girl’s “back to school” sales. She sews her good dress clothing for work. I’m lousy at being organized, and in order to please her, I make decorative wooden storage boxes for things that belong together. These I cover with fabric I buy at the ARC thrift store, because I can stretch the cloth down tight with wood glue over the plywood and then varnish it. Sayaka heisted some of my paisley-pattern fabric and made herself a nice blouse out of it. I can’t fault her for it; it looks great on her. I bought her a good Berninia sewing machine with a steel frame (I hate plastic) and made her the table for it.

    I think some of these generalizations are just plain silly. Lumping Japanese with Chinese and Filippinos is absurd enough, but this study probably also includes subcontinental Indians as “Asians” as well.

    • AncientMason

      You are right. My “Chinese” wife (3rd generation American) is very thrifty, as are all her family members.

      • Of all of the men I have worked with, the subcontinental Indians probably spent the most on clothes. I was always good with a polo-shirt, jeans, and last year’s Reeboks or New Balance shoes I bought on clearance, while they were trying to outdo each other at some funky “G.Q. Model” game.

        I never did understand all that.

  • Chip Carver

    If it’s illegal in certain areas, it’s a crime. If people are ruining their lives and their family’s, it’s criminal behavior. If people are stealing to engage in gambling, it’s a crime. It’s victimless like prostitution in many ways.

  • MikeofAges

    All good points. Always keep in mind, gangsterism is one of the universals in human civilization. And a topic largely ignored in written history, except when absolutely necessary..

    Excuse me for doing a knock off of Langston Hughes, but let’s try this one:

    The Universal Gangster

    I was there when they raised the pyramids,
    running girls and crooked games
    and smuggling Nubians up the Nile
    to do the work of the households of the filthy rich

    I was there …

  • I see Needless Markup is high on this list.

    Not so smart, are we?

  • ImTellinYa

    The history of Asian civilization is one long chronicle of brutal tyranny. Asians tend to be rigid, arrogant and conformist to an amazing degree. There is no tradition of innovation. They seem to glom on to Western inventions and methods; in some cases improving them, but Asians haven’t made any of the fundamental inventions in spite of their vaunted intelligence. High intelligence is only found in a corner of norther Asia in any case.

    One reason we defeated Japan was because of our ability to adapt to their weapons and tactics. The narrative tells us that their fighter planes were superior to ours at the beginning of the war, but that’s not really true. We had problems fighting them at first because our pilots had trained to fight something different. The Japanese fighters had good speed and astounding maneuverability, but they were poorly armored and armed. The pilots made little use of radio communication, and their group tactics were abysmal. Our main problem was that their planes were hard to hit with our initial tactics.

    So what happened? Some of our pilots compared notes and on their own initiative developed group tactics and formations that nullified the Japanese advantage in maneuverability. These innovations were quickly approved by our high command. Once that happened we began to decisively win the battle of attrition. We decimated Japanese air power long before our superior planes arrived; planes like the Hellcat, Corsair, Lightning, etc. fought against a greatly weakened air power.

    And the Japanese stubbornly clung to their rigid tactics and equipment. Their battle plans were overly complicated, and only worked when they achieved surprise; a thing they never much did after Pearl Harbor. We were flexible and innovative. They were not.

    I’ve worked with a LOT of Asians; mainly Japanese and Chinese and Vietnamese. They all have this attitude that if a project is done by the book and the prevailing theory, then nothing should go wrong. They make no contingency plans. When things do go wrong, they are mystified. They never plunge into a project with an attitude of learning as they go or changing procedure to achieve a goal.

    The Asians I’ve known are also knee-jerk Leftists; a self-destructive impulse to embrace tyranny.

    The bottom line is that they have no business in a White country. We don’t need them. Their presence is, at the end of the day, destructive to Western Civilization.

    And they are bad drivers. It’s a symptom of their inability to innovate or react to changing variables. The chaos of traffic paralyzes them or makes them overly aggressive. I’ve seen them simply stop in the middle of an intersection because they can’t react to a rapidly changing flow of traffic.

    I like a lot of Asians I’ve known, but they are essentially cuckoos in the nest; rigid collectivists. Supercharged SWPLs. They need to find someplace else to live.

    • Alexandra1973

      I’ve heard plenty about how badly Orientals drive.

  • newscomments70

    I visited Vancouver recently. It is such a beautiful city, a jewel of British Columbia. Because of Asian “investors”, homes are now unaffordable to the middle class. It would cost over $1 million dollars for a small, average home. Australian cities all have the same problem….too many mosques, as well. Our governments are salivating for “foreign investment”, even though it destroys the middle class. Our governments hate us.

    • Jefferson

      So Bantus and Mestizos are evil because they drive down the cost of property down when they move into a White neighborhood.

      And Asians are evil because they drive up the cost of property when they move into a White neighborhood.

      So Nonwhites are scum because they can be both too financially affluent and too poor ghetto trash at the same time.

      • newscomments70

        You’re just throwing out inflammatory comments. You are missing the point. Asian Americans can be relatively nice, but their neighborhoods are often sleazy and dominated by organized crime. Foreign investors, often Asian, don’t necessarily live in the buildings they purchase, they simply drive up the cost of real estate through rampant speculation. In places like Vancouver, it is not longer possible for a middle class person to buy a home.

    • LudwigvonDrake

      . . . now referred to as Vancong

  • Jefferson

    Is there an epidemic in America of Asian male on White female rape like there is with Black male on White female rape ? I don’t think so.

    Are Asian male youths going around knocking out random White people on the streets ? I don’t think so.

    • newscomments70

      There is an epidemic of gang violence in almost every Asian community in the US. Extortion is the most common racket. Other rackets include drugs and prostitution. Violence and shootings are relatively common.

      • Jefferson

        Than why aren’t Asian men overrepresented in America’s prison population ?

        Do Asian criminals on average have a higher IQ and thus less likely to get caught and arrested by law enforcement ?

        • newscomments70

          I’ve lived in California and in Asia. Each Asian nationality has their own gang / organized crime network. Cambodians have the highest percentage of criminal activity in the Asian-American realm. Whites do have a higher average crime rate than Asians though. That is true, but we typically do not have gangs, organized crime and extortion rackets in our communities. There are some intelligent, successful Asians whom I admire, but you want to completely ignore obvious problems in their communities.

          • Jefferson

            Why isn’t the percentage of Asians in America’s prisons as high as the percentage of Asians in America’s major universities ?

          • newscomments70

            Again, you missed the point. Please see the above comments. When my latest comment passes moderation, you will see that I’ve posted a documentary on Asian gangs in California. It’s a youtube video which graphically illustrates the problem. Have a look, it’s an interesting video. here, I think I can get it passed if I had spaces:

            http://www .youtube. com/watch?v=n Non3cKgZvE

          • newscomments70

            “Asians in California still have the lowest incarceration rate among all of the races.” That is true, I did not deny that. They do have a signficant gang presence though. In the next city over from me, Vietanamese gangs perpetrate drive-by shootings. How is that possible if they are virtually crime free? That is just one small example. You obviously are avoiding the documentary.

        • newscomments70

          Asians are only a single digit percentage of our population. Their violent street gangs still have a strong presence in both California and Hawaiian prisons. Please see the video I posted.

          • Jefferson

            It doesn’t matter that Asians are only single digit percentage of the U.S population.

            Blacks make up only 6 percent of California’s general population, yet Blacks make up 32 percent of California’s prison population.


          • newscomments70

            “Asians in California still have the lowest incarceration rate among all of the races.” That is true, I did not deny that. They do have a signficant gang presence though. In the next city over from me, Vietanamese gangs perpetrate drive-by shootings. How is that possible if they are virtually crime free? That is just one small example. You obviously are avoiding the documentary. I live and travel in these places. I have even known Asian gang members. You cannot base your opinions solely on statistcs. You need life experiences as well. You sound like a college student. You only have limited experiences at this point.

    • newscomments70

      If you cross an Asian gang member, you will get jumped. It’s not as random and hateful as the black attacks, but it happens. There is a Vietnamese nightclub near my home. Some of the young men there HATE white guys, and others to some degree. If you go there and hit on the wrong girl, you will be jumped.

      In Thailand, you can start a fight simply for pointing your foot at someone. People I know have been robbed by Thai taxi drivers at knifepoint. They target whites because they think we’re all rich.

      I have nothing against Asians. I’ve had many Asian friends and associates. I’m going to Asia for a month in the Spring for work. It’s fine to interract with them, but you really need to get a clue of what’s going on in the world.

      • Jefferson

        Thailand has a considerably lower per capita murder rate than Russia for example. So if Thais on average are violent, than Russians are barbaric uncivilized animals who belong in cages as as far away as possible from civilized Human Beings.

        • newscomments70

          Some Thais are nice, some are shady. You have to be careful there though. Criminals tend to rob you in the form of scams and intimidation. There are muggings though. “Russians are barbaric uncivilized animals who belong in cages as as far away as possible from civilized Human Beings.”…at least on the road they are.

  • Jefferson

    A better analogy would be trying to legally ban soda because it leads to some people getting diabetes.

  • Jefferson

    Law enforcement should not be cracking down and arresting 2 consenting adults who have sex with each other in exchange for money. It is a waste of taxpayer dollars because there are way more serious crimes out there than this.

    If you want big government legislate morality between consenting adults, maybe you should vote for Rick Santorum the next time he decides to run for POTUS.

    You would probably would not want to live in predominantly White Netherlands for example, because of their libertarian approach towards prostitution.

    • newscomments70

      Again, you are just making things up. The Netherlands is rife with organized crime, hard drugs, and sexual slavery, and pedophile rape gangs. The mellow hashish bars attract Muslim drug dealers/gangs. Amsterdam has been trying to phase out the hashish bars out because of this. Yes, the red light district is famous, etc, but it is now being controlled by organized crime. It is no longer “two consenting adults” at this point….it’s everything. Sleaze attracts sleaze, unfortunately.

      • Jefferson

        It is 100 percent fact that people in Northern Europe on average have never been socially conservative on issues like prostitution, homosexuality, and drug use.

        A religious socially conservative White person from Mississippi for example, would not culturally blend right in Northern Europe.

        • newscomments70

          You, me, and most Europeans have nothing against consenting adults doing whatever. The problem is the rapid demographic change in Europe. Europe is not European anymore. Muslim and African gangs are taking advantage of liberal laws and dominating the drugs and sex trade. Places like Amsterdam are now dominated by violent organized crime. It is not just the pretty blond girls in the windows, like it was 30 years ago. Please see the above comment.

        • A “religious socially conservative white person from Mississippi” is generally of English, Scottish or Irish ethnic extraction. They’ll blend into northern Europe far quicker than any Asian.

          • Jefferson

            Do most Northern Europeans hate Homosexuals and drug use just like religious White Southerners ?

          • I was talking about racial compatibility, not ideological or religious.

          • Jefferson

            Why aren’t Northern Europeans as socially conservative as White Christian Southerners on issues of drug use and Homosexuality ?

    • I have always found it curious that when a young woman “shacks up” with an older guy who pays the bills, this is OK. If he buys her dinner and takes her out to a movie and then they go to his place and have sex, this is also OK. If he just gives her the money up front, only then is it illegal if they screw.

      It doesn’t make any sense.

      • newscomments70

        Here in SoCal, we’re infested with celebrities. As you know, the older ones will often marry a younger trophy wife. These women are pretty easy to spot…peroxide blond, fake breasts, ostentatious clothing. They drive expensive cars recklessly, and are generally disrespectful to others in the community. They make ridiculous demands at local shops, yelling the same tired mantra, “Do you know who I am!” These women are useless. They have no talent, and leach off of their husbands’ money and influence. They try to compensate for their fading youth and beauty with expensive jewlery and plastic surgery. These women are the real wh-ores.

  • Massif1

    Asians love Costco. That’s news?

  • newscomments70

    Libertarianism does not work in a corrupt, multiculticultural nation. As Ramzpaul once said, you can have diversity or freedom, but you can’t have both.

  • Chip Carver

    I see what you mean, but think about it; gambling is illegal in the city of L.A.. Asians are so addicted that they can’t wait to drive out of the city limits to hit casinos – it’s not that far. So they are committing a crime. If you live around Asians, and I do, you’ll see a lot of them just can’t resist gambling. It’s rather odd. I’ve seen Whites also who are addicted to gambling, but the percentage of Asians who are addicted to this is very high. And they don’t do any better at gambling than anyone else, so it’s not like it’s something they’re good at. In fact, they seem more likely to put everything down on one hand so to speak. Either crazy brave or just crazy when it comes to gambling.

    • a multiracial individual

      I live in S. California, I have seen all of this. Asians love gambling. However, I still don’t get why the act of gambling (by itself) should be illegal. Now should thieves and robbers who work around gambling be thrown in jail? Absolutely.

      • Jefferson

        The same people who think gambling should stay illegal, are probably descendents of people who supported prohibition.

    • Jefferson

      Whats the problem ? Are Asian male gamblers in America going around robbing and raping White women at gunpoint in order to feed their gambling addiction ?

      How does Asians gambling directly negatively affect you and your White family ?

  • It doesn’t matter to most Americans but Hong Kong alone is almost as large a market for fine mechanical watches as is the entire USA. Now that they’re accumulating wealth the northeastern Chinese want the very best and are prepared to pay for it.

    That said, my watch is a $50 Timex quartz from WalMart. When worn continuously, during the summer it gains at the rate of about 10 seconds per year. During the winter it neither gains nor loses.

    • Wearing a very good “Eddie Bauer” quartz watch my mother gave me 20 years ago right now, It keeps excellent time, and when last I replaced the wristband, it got real alligator hide. That’s actually relatively cheap in the US.

      Only when it came to my old rifle collection did I want the best of the best of the best, and I made the best ammo I could, cases machined to length and neck-reamed before being segregated by weight, match-grade metering drums for my powder trickler, etc.

      I made a specialty out of 7.92mm X 57 loads.

      A wristwatch or an automobile is not really where the expenditure of money produces the most useful results. It’s centerfire rifles first and last.

      • My wife and I don’t have funds for collecting fine things. However, I don’t begrudge them to those who can afford them and choose to buy them.

        Take watches. While I’d love to own a fine mechanical the fact is that I’m not willing to spend money on them. I content myself with having learned a great deal about watches, clocks and the history of timekeeping. As a result I have something that 99% of owners of Rolexes, Omegas and Patek Philippes do not — a knowledge of why those particular brands generally really are better than the others.

        I can’t afford a gun collection (beyond the weapons we have for defense of the home) but I located and have read the 350-page operating manual for an Iowa class battleship 16-inch gun turret. So in the end what I collect is knowledge, because that’s all I can afford.

  • Jefferson

    But according to many White nationalists here on Amren, a lazy White trailer trash welfare bum who mooches off of taxpayers, is still racially superior to an Asian who makes $63,400 a year.

  • MartelC

    So our elite want:
    dumb complacent third world workers to fill manual labor spots- ones that don’t mind corruption, authoritarian governments, and don’t care about individual liberty (who outside anglo saxon nations do?)

    shallow, materialisitic spendaholic orientals to keep mindlessly consuming – who again, have no problem with authoritarian governments.

    This is nothing new -this is simply an attempt to turn formely free Saxon nations into despotic oriental empires like Moorish spain or the Ottoman empire..the former a large number of our hostile elite considers their ‘golden age’ (Never mind Christian women were forced into sex slavery – no accident this is on the rise again) that would also explain indifference, or in fact encouragement of muslim hordes

  • MartelC

    Orientals are materialistic and shallow- pick up any pre 1960s history book and this would be common knowledge.. ..

    • Maybe the Chinese are, but I don’t currently know any.

    • “Orientals are materialistic and shallow …”


      In contrast, whites never buy luxuries and are, universally, connoissseurs of literature, music and art. They care nothing for money, only for the finer things in life, which money cannot buy.


      Instead of giving nonsense justifications, why not just say you don’t like Orientals? Frankly, I would rather be operated on by a materialistic and shallow Chinese neurosurgeon than by a smug and superior white med student who did a lot of partying.

      • MartelC

        ridiculous reply of course there are materialistic whites, the point is that peoples and societies have different traits – orientals are much more comfortable with authoritarian governments and are , in general far more materialistic and shallow- i think it is genetic.

        • So far most Americans, including white Americans, seem fairly comfortable with our modern authoritarian government — or have you begun shouting at the top of your lungs “I’m being raped” when you let TSA grope you at the airport?. This passivity in the face of dictatorship is a big problem which I hope Alyeska will not have.

          Anyway, you wrote that Orientals are materialistic and shallow. That didn’t fly so now you need them to be comfortable with authoritarian governments. Isn’t it just a wee bit possible that they’re generally (generally) more civilized — less barbaric — than we are when put in a western setting? And that with their histories of no-nonsense governments free of notions like “diversity is strength” they’re actually smarter than we are at governance? (I’m not asserting that this is true, simply that it’s a distinct possibility.)


          Yes, there are differences among peoples and societies and yes, many/most of the differences are genetic. Some of these differences — the ones that matter to me — have to do with IQ, civility, hard work, strong family values and respect for elders. Your materialistic, shallow and authoritarian Orientals rank high on these traits, which do appear to be hereditary in large part.

          It’s perfectly natural to want to live among people who look like you do, speak your language, share your values and understand you. Just don’t confuse your dislike of certain groups with wisdom.

          For example, I don’t like to even look at Ethiopians and Somalis, but I’m not inventing any cockamamie socioeconomic theory about why. As far as appearances go they are simply not my type.

          • MartelC

            move to asia if their societies are so great. Are you oriental?

          • Not oriental, white. Here are the group race IQ facts of life, IQ being an excellent predictor of group financial success and civility. The numbers are on the old scale, before they were renormalized to get average black scores above 90 …

            blacks ……………………….. 85
            whites ……………………….. 100
            Northeast Asians ………… 106
            Ashkenazi Jews …………… 113

            I’m a race realist, not a white supremacist. You’re coming across as one of those people whose views on race are as follows …

            blacks ………………………. totally inferior, IQ proves it
            whites ………………………. invented everything important
            Northeast Asians ………… they get ahead only by cheating on exams
            Ashkenazi Jews ………….. on top only because of AA/conspiracies

          • MartelC

            and you come across as one of those people who has an asian fetish.

            if orientals were so superior how is they have to copy everything from the west. Where are their innovations. Its’ funny though that you skew things by saying northeast orientals – I understand germans for example, have just as high an average IQ – and are far more innovative and creative (as are all western peoples)

            As for the askanazi – they may have high iqs but IQ =! nice or good. And people with high iqs can also be paranoid and crazy – and believe in very bad or destructive ideas – the adulation of communism/ marxism among our hostile elite comes to mind.

            Without ‘goodness’ intelligence just provides mankind with a higher capacity for evil and destruction.

          • “Where are their innovations.”

            Chinese are now asking why they stopped innovating so long ago, and the answer probably lies in their 3,000-year belief that they had perfected human existence.

            As they copy western technology they are learning to improve on it. China is a sleeping giant. They have recognized that they’re about to fall off a demographic cliff just as Japan is. There is strong social pressure now to do away with the one-family-one-child rule.

            You would do well to think about how the Ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Chinese both developed civilizations that lasted for 3,000 years. This can’t happen unless people are basically content, which we in the USA these days no longer are.

          • MartelC

            they engage in ruthless industrial espionage- often aided by chinese ‘americans’ here, who are a fifth column. They also have learned to play the race card and have their own ‘victim’ groups.

            In short, there is no benefit to having them here, they should be encouraged to return to their own lands.
            If we started playing the nationalistic game, as the orientals do, we would surpass them within a decade.

            The downfall of US manufacturing – and innovation – has been deliberate.

          • “they engage in ruthless industrial espionage …”

            Military, too. Bill Clinton let them get away with stealing a) the design for the W88 thermonuclear warhead, and b) the supercomputer codes used to predict the performance of proposed thermonuclear warhead designs.

            These espionage coups probably saved them 25 years or more of independent research.

          • Martel

            Hillary Clinton was alleged to be bribed by Chinese donors like Charlie Tree, John Huang and Johnny Chung amongst others. The Clinton family has quite a history with their communist buddies.

  • Alexandra1973

    I find it interesting…you can do that, but you better not be “dissin'” the blacks. Or Pedro y su familia.

    Maybe it’s because Orientals tend to be smarter over all…? That’s a recurring theme even in school…feel sorry for the dumb ones, rag on the smarter ones.

    • newscomments70

      “Family Guy” is pretty left wing, but they make fun of many different groups.

  • Strike_Team

    I’m not sure IQ tests measure everything. Growing up with them, having gone to school with them here in SoCal gives me a different picture. I think they’re only “smart” in certain areas and almost doltish or childishly backward in others. Yes, they are astoundingly bad drivers as an overall group.

    Another thing I will say is that the books are cooked in law enforcement when it comes to arrest rates for all non-whites. Working the streets and seeing what goes on gives one a different idea of the landscape. Asians have slightly lower crime rates than whites in some areas and are worse in others, if you narrow them to their respective ethnic groups. It would take too much time to go into here, to break it down, but I can tell you for instance that Korean men knock the living hell out of their women at a higher rate than whites. You won’t see that mentioned anywhere. Just like you won’t see that blacks, latinos, Filipinos among others are more likely to engage in pedophilia than Whites. You would think there is an epidemic of white pedophiles out there the way the news presents it. If you break down whites, the usual suspects as some call them, and they control the news, are more likely to be pedophiles and stalkers among other things, than other whites are. I should note they are also bad drivers as a group. Not like Asians and Latinos, but they are not very good. That’s how it is here in a major metropolitan area in SoCal. I doubt it’s much different in other major cities in what used to be America.

    I could add Asians are much more likely to belong to a gang than whites, which I think most here are aware of. The communities are tight lipped, with the FOBs (Fresh Off the Boat) usually targeted, which further helps keep Asian arrest rates low in comparison to blacks and latinos who are so impulsive, stupid and downright arrogant that unless you have been around them, it’s impossible to fathom.