EU Rules That Gay Africans Are Entitled to Asylum

Bruno Waterfield, Telegraph (London), November 7, 2013

A gay refugee from an African country where people are jailed for being a homosexual does qualify for asylum, the EU rules.

The fear of imprisonment for homosexuality in African countries is grounds for asylum in the European Union, Europe’s highest court has ruled.

According to the European Court of Justice, a gay refugee from a country where people are jailed for being homosexual does qualify as a persecuted group eligible for asylum.

The court’s ruling concerned three homosexual men from Sierra Leone, Uganda and Senegal who had sought asylum in Holland, but is binding for all EU countries, including Britain.

“Homosexual acts are a criminal offence in those three countries and may lead to serious punishment, from heavy fines to life imprisonment in certain cases,” the ECJ ruled.

“A term of imprisonment which accompanies a legislative provision which punishes homosexual acts may constitute an act of persecution per se, provided that it is actually applied.”

The EU judges also ruled that asylum seekers should not be expected to conceal their homosexuality to avoid persecution in their home country.

“The court considers that requiring members of a social group sharing the same sexual orientation to conceal it is incompatible with the recognition of a characteristic so fundamental to a person’s identity that the persons concerned cannot be required to renounce it,” the judges ruled.

“Therefore, an applicant for asylum cannot be expected to conceal his homosexuality in his country of origin in order to avoid persecution.”

Homosexual acts are illegal across Africa including in countries such as Uganda, Nigeria, Kenya and Botswana, which have close links to the West.

Under international law people from a social group with a well-founded fear of persecution or human rights violations can claim asylum status.

It will be up to national authorities to decide whether the situation in an applicant asylum seeker’s country of origin amounts to persecution, particularly “whether the term of imprisonment is applied in practice”.

“The UK has a proud history of granting asylum to those who need it and applications are carefully considered before a decision is made,” said a Government spokesman.

“However, applicants must establish that they face persecution and inhuman or degrading treatment in their country of origin to qualify for our protection.”

Next year, following another Dutch case, the EU courts are expected to rule on a much more difficult matter: how national asylum authorities should verify a person’s claim that they are homosexual.

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  • D.B. Cooper

    You need to find the name of that “government spokesman”, and turn him into a FORMER government spokesman.

  • Pro_Whitey

    I am quite convinced that if being a butt bleeper is what it takes to get on the European welfare teat, there will be millions and millions of “butt bleepers” showing up at the borders. Just another bleepin’ disaster for the West.

    • Brian

      At least these are unlikely to breed…well actually are they going to make them prove they’re gay? If not, I foresee lawyers advising third-worlders to claim gayness regardless. And if we see Ugandans becoming remarkably gay all of a sudden (>5%), we’ll be told to look the other way.

  • Nathanwartooth

    On Reddit, people were claiming that it will be very, very difficult for Africans to claim to be homosexuals. They were saying that people will have to somehow have evidence that they are about to be jailed for being homosexual.

    But from this article “Next year, following another Dutch case, the EU courts are expected to rule on a much more difficult matter: how national asylum authorities should verify a person’s claim that they are homosexual.”

    This seems like they are saying it’s a huge loophole that they will close next year.

    Any evidence either way on this? This is very troubling news.

    • borogirl54

      I once read where the UK wanted to deport a woman back to Uganda even though she claimed to be a lesbian. The government could not find any evidence that this woman was a lesbian. As far as Uganda was concerned, she was told if she “repented” of her lesbianism, she could come home.

      • Jefferson

        Many Sub Saharan African women look like they could be lesbians be default, because of their very manly looking appearances.

        • Pelagian

          “Double Brillos”.

    • “Smell my penis. Dat smell like —–?”

      • Alexandra1973

        I just ate….

  • Spartacus

    This happened before, with criminals from the middle-east claiming to be homos and asking for asylum in Europe, then being arrested for raping young girls…

    We need to get rid of the EU as soon as possible, and as violently as possible.

    • Sick of it

      Quite a large number of Europeans are starting to agree.

    • stewball

      I hate the EU etc.

  • They can’t be too homophobic.

    • Extropico

      I didn’t know those Ugandans were such gifted comedic scribes.

    • Nice Guy

      That’s great!

    • M.

      Hahahaha this is one of the most hilariously disgusting stuff I’ve ever read!

    • Pelagian

      this is like the Evening Whirl of Uganda. QD will know what I’m talking about. Everyone else will have to clean what they can from this photo:

      • It’s the quintessential tabloid written by blacks for blacks about blacks. Almost every big city with a big black population has one.

  • DaveMed

    Watching the EU and its shenanigans is like watching Bach immolating himself and all his works in one fell swoop.

  • Rhialto

    Notice that this is not a law/decision made by democratically elected leaders; judges made the decision. It seems that Europe now has a tyrannical judiciary, just like the U.S.

  • IstvanIN

    Do African nations treat gays poorly, yes. They also treat women, children, albinos and pygmies appallingly. It isn’t our problem. Let them stand up for their rights in their own nations.

    • Erasmus

      Here’s an easier question: Whom do African nations treat well?

      • IstvanIN

        True enough.

    • Bantu_Education

      Lets not forget about that virtually extinct species of colonial adventurer once known as white Rhodesians…and now er, white Zimbabweans, although this is a temporary designation. Not one of them, to the best of my knowledge, has ever been granted political asylum despite originating from Europe and now being subjected to the most glaringly obvious and blatantly violent discrimination. Ditto white South Africans.

      • IstvanIN

        We never stick up for our own.

        • Sick of it

          When those in power are not our own, why would we expect them to stick up for us?

  • 1stworlder

    Just what Europe needs more HIV+ rapists on welfare/dole.

    • DaveMed

      And on the prowl.

    • Erasmus

      Celebrate diversity!

  • Magician

    To the AmRen poster named “Gay Black Man” do you have any opinion on this matter? We are not interested in arguing with you. We just wonder if you have any opinion.

  • MekongDelta69

    What if I claimed I’m a black, gay, trannie, feminazi, tree-hugging, animal-worshipping, voodoo-believing, NoBama-loving, white-hating, communist?

    How much gibsmedat do I get?

  • bigone4u

    Many blacks are bisexual, as are many Mexicans. Many Muslims are “animal lovers.” Does the West have to embrace every perversion under the sun? Today, black homos. Tomorrow, pedophiles and zooiphiles.

    • Erasmus

      Yup. The camel is already half-way into the tent.

      • Kenner

        Hilarious comments on Breitbart re the discovery of MERS in camels in Saudi Arabia….’Mike Mike Mike— what DAY is it?? Say it Mike…!!.—[‘It’s Mersday…]

  • Homo_Occidentalis

    The EU is and always has been opposed to a white Europe. It’s high time the Euro and the EU were abolished for good.

    • David Ashton

      We need a Union of Europeans against the “EU”.

      • Archibald_Cunningham

        Haven’t you said before that you’re against Britain leaving the EU?

        • David Ashton

          Let me explain.

          We need a union of Europeans, including the English, Scots, Welsh and Irish. Europe in conjunction with related overseas nations can provide a source of supplies and a large internal market to enable us to withdraw from the world trading system, excessive undercutting and the whole racket of financial globalism. Simply to withdraw completely from the European system takes the UK out of a frying-pan into a fire.

          The “anti-racist” UKIP has no serious policy to stop Afro-Asian immigration or the Chinese takeover of our infrastructure, but I think people should vote for them to demonstrate their disenchantment with the political establishment, and to break both the parliamentary party logjam, and the mixture of complacency and despair that bedevils our white electorate.

          What is needed therefore is for Britain first to hold out for “subsidiarity”, i.e. self-government, on all issues that threaten our particular identity, and to work with other Europeans of similar outlook in their own nations, and to call the bluff of the politically correct cliques and bureaucrats who presently run the show to general disadvantage on such issues as immigration.

          The major problem for Britain with “Europe” (and much else) is not Germany, or France, but our own home-grown politicians – from 1945 to 2013.

        • David Ashton

          Where is my Reply to this Question, Moderator?

        • David Ashton

          My answer to your question is not on this thread as I check it at 11 PM GMT, but can be found if you press my name on the Disqus archive. The disappearance of answers is a minor reason why I do not intend to post any more comments on this website after midnight tonight, Thursday, November 14.

          • Archibald_Cunningham

            I can see your lengthy reply that you posted yesterday just fine. I also saw it yesterday, just after you posted it.

            So if I’m understanding you correctly, what it boils down to is you would like to see European countries combat the EU together and destroy it in one fell swoop, instead of Britain withdrawing on its own and the EU going on without it. I can understand that.

            I’m sad to hear you will no longer be posting on Amren. Hopefully you’ll reconsider in the future. I very much enjoy your commentary.

          • David Ashton

            I’m allowing myself to say than you & good wishes.

  • JohnEngelman

    Laws like this should be decided by popular referendums.

    • David Ashton

      A result in 2013 would be different from one in 1963.

    • Don’t get to solid behind those. There was a popular referendum in Croatia in 1991 that decided where the border with Serbia would stay.

    • MBlanc46

      I can’t speak as an insider, but it sounds to me as if the referenda ought to be about leaving the EU.

    • Bantu_Education

      ALL legislation should be enabled by direct vote – preferably a system whereby those who display greater knowledge of the issue counts for more votes. This is not as difficult to implement as it sounds and would, at a stroke, emasculate the power of the political elites who thrive on the “stupid vote” (one man one vote). Which explains why we don’t have qualified voting on the individual issues.

  • David Ashton

    Everyone who for any reason doesn’t like living outside the EU is welcome to come in and end up in Little Olde England…. Simples.

  • libertarian1234

    “EU Rules That Gay Africans Are Entitled to Asylum”

    Which is just one more reason why the EU is a failure and should be abolished.

    Multiculturalism in Europe and the US is the dream of out-of-touch fools who live in some kind of parallel universe wherein their views on things are based strictly in fantasies.

    Both will soon implode.

    And we owe a debt of gratitude to the community organizer for hurrying things along right here in this country.

  • Anon

    There is no such thing as homosexuality. By that I mean, any people who allow men (and by extension women….although that has never been allowed before) to define themselves by gay sex…..vanishes. Why? Answering that question could fill a book. Does it matter? In the end, no. What matters is, in all of human history, there have been no exceptions.

    Blacks, for their part, are extremely anti-gay…..which is a contradiction considering gay sex, among black men, is nearly universal. Show me a black man and I will show you a man who has had gay sex….probably ALOT of gay sex. Ask him if he is homosexual and he will say no (he isn’t lying). Ask him if he’s had gay sex and he will lie….or tell you a rationalization. Is raping a man with the primary intent to dominate, humiliate and enslave him, gay sex. Is relenting to such behavior as an alternative to being murdered, gay sex. Is joining a black prison subculture as someone’s “bitch”, gay sex.

    Yes….yes it is. But don’t tell a black man that.

    • Alexandra1973

      I would lean more towards “omnisexual”–if it has a hole, it’s fair game for them.

    • All of the gay guys in federal prison I knew of were blacks and Mexicans. The black “girls” liked Mexican men because the would receive commissary items from them. One of these “girls” was almost 7 feet tall, so he wasn’t being raped, though he was known as a blow-job princess.

      Whites and injuns didn’t do that. We just waited to go home and relieved ourselves in the shower area, alone. What a pair of consenting adults do behind closed doors is bound to be disgusting, but if they’re each happy afterward, I don’t have a problem with it.

      My friends were a pair of badass injuns: a Navajo and and an Apache, both in for murder, and a big, mean white biker. I miss them, especially Rex. The two injuns helped me pick myself back together.

  • Nice Guy

    “down low club”

  • M.

    There’s no way we can make sure someone is homosexual! This is just another liberal excuse to flood Europe with more racial aliens.

  • Bantu_Education

    This is blatant discrimination in favour of male homosexuals – what about the rights of the millions of oppressed black lesbians? Europe needs them too..!!

    • WR_the_realist

      The one advantage I see to discriminating in favor of male homosexuals (assuming that they’re not bi) is that they won’t breed. At least this is one assault on the population that won’t renew itself generation after generation.

  • Kenner

    Abortion and gays– deflecting attention from white replacement.

    • Pelagian

      Abortion and gays *is* white displacement! . It’s the number one and 2 most potent white displacements ever invented!!

      • Kenner

        Gays are about 3% of the population, and blacks, true to their disinclination to plan ahead, use abortion more than any other group. We need to confront the trifecta of white destruction: pathological altruism, moral exhibitionism, and ethnomasochism.

        • Pelagian

          Atlhough I would like to believe that gays are only 3%, they’re ubiquity in our culture plus their unprecedented political clout ( reversing a millennial deeply-held western beliefs) leads me to think its more like 10%. NO ONE completes a successful revolution with 3%!

          • Kenner

            Pelagion: ‘No one completes a revolution with three %’ Exactly! –Gays are supported by their families, friends, and co-workers, who actually know them. Unlike abrasive gay ‘activists’, most gays are seen as workaday shlubs who threaten no-one.

          • Pelagian

            Just like blacks were 5% in 1950s and were are supported by their …”friends, and co-workers, who actually know them. Unlike abrasive gay ‘activists’, most gays are seen as workaday shlubs who threaten no-one.”? No! It was every ounce a political, marxist-style vanguard.

          • Kenner

            And my fear is that the anti-gay meme in race-realism will alienate the gay’s families and friends, who see them as vulnerable. Many gays grow up in families who hate gays…I remember during the eighties AIDS epidemic, one woman caregiver said that when some parents found out their son had AIDS, they took it as ‘Bad news/ Good news’ —The bad news is, your son has AIDS. The good news is, he’s dying.

          • Pelagian

            1)’Vulnerable’ from what? Vulnerable from not having faux-marriage??? 2) And alienation is always bad? You know you’re on Amren, right?

          • Pelagian

            I’m not totally sure whether you’re offering that as anecdotal evidence of something or not, but I know a lot of families say things like that when faced with a loved-ones self-destructive behavior. Does that make them ‘heroin-addict phobic’ etc? I’m not second guessing how any family deals with that pain… Some families even think that about cancer … better to die than to linger.

      • GeneticsareDestiny

        I somewhat agree with you on abortion, but non-white races are much more likely to get abortions than whites (at least, when living in countries where abortion is legal). Also, while white women getting abortions is a problem, most of the ones who do are members of the left side of the bell curve. Abortion is very rare among highly intelligent white women. Their problem is that they’re so good at using birth control that they are capable of putting off childbirth until they’re too old to get pregnant anymore.

        As for homosexuality, very few whites are interested in having a homosexual relationship, and most of the ones who are were never going to be normal people engaging in normal relationships, getting married, and having children. Homosexuality is most prevalent among whites who are already deviant in some way. Allowing those whites to voluntarily remove themselves from the gene pool through engaging in homosexual relationships can only be a net positive for the white race.

  • WR_the_realist

    That’s a great reason all by itself for countries to leave the EU.

  • Pelagian

    This reminds me of when Castro got rid of all his deviants. Was that the Mariel boat lift, or am I confusing it? Of course there is no form of trades that self-hating white cultures wont take in order to get that warm fuzzy feeling of “equality”.

  • Pelagian

    “who had sought asylum in Holland” … Imagine how busy Amsterdam’s gay community is going to be “accommodating” these new refugees?

    Imagine if you picked up your morning paper and found out that 2,000 Hooters girls would be at the pier tomorrow morning, having been granted asylum by the EU. Rough equivalent ….

    • Kenner

      Oh, they’re ‘hooters’ alright. Like gibbons.

  • GeneticsareDestiny

    Will homosexual women be entitled to asylum too? If so, expect many African “lesbians” to come to Europe, only to immediately get pregnant by African men who already live there (and that’s only if they’re not already pregnant, which many probably will be and which will not exclude them from qualifying for homosexual asylee status).

    Also, will an African “lesbian” with 8 kids be allowed to bring over all her children with her? I wouldn’t doubt it.

    This is just another backdoor immigration scheme to transfer as many third worlders as possible into first world nations.

  • Blue-eyed Devil

    Oh snap! Now every jungle bunny in Africa is going to say they’re a flaming faggot to get into Europe.

  • PesachPatriot

    So the EU wants to turn their entire continent into the equivalent of the american state prison systems? This will not end well….maybe some of the white south africans can pretend to be gay so they can get asylum…

  • NeanderthalDNA

    Bums? I’ve heard it referred to as “pootyhole” as well, as per the lyrical masterings of the late, great, Wesley Willis. He referred to a camel’s bum as its “pootyhole” in his classic, “Camel’s Pootyhole”.

    Warning: If you listen to that or any other of his songs you will never get them out of your head.

    Oh…DO laugh…life being short and all…

  • Defiant White

    I didn’t know there was such a thing as a non-gay African. They all seem to go after anything with a pulse.

    In America, I basically look at blacks as being in one of two classes: 1) Criminals and 2) Criminals Who Haven’t Been identified As Criminals, Yet.

    Probably works the same in Africa: 1) Homo blacks and 2) homo blacks who just haven’t been caught being homo yet.

  • Helios Megistos

    EUSSR delenda est!

  • Korean guy

    There is no need to be rude to “Gay Black Man” because he is not rude to anyone else here. I do agree many males in the black community, have problems, and they often enjoy unfair advantages in endless situations at the moment

    but this specific “Gay Black Man” poster is not rude to any AmRen member and it is not necessary to be rude to him.

  • Fr. John+

    “A gay refugee from an African country where people are jailed for being a homosexual does qualify for asylum, the EU rules.”

    Admitting the thrice damned, instead of White, literate, moral Americans as refugees from our own Third World Country- and their own kinsman. What ARE the Eurocrats smoking?

  • David Ashton

    I no longer comment on AmRen for reasons given on other threads. The root problem has been a fatal British dependence on a failing export trade. I hope to get an article on this subject in the English “Quarterly Review” before the end of the year which will cover your specific question and accessible on-line.