Challenges in St. Louis Schools Have Some Teachers Quitting

Elisa Crouch, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, September 11, 2013

Laura Sahaida knew teaching kindergarten at a low-performing elementary school in the city would be a tough job — but not like this. Just six days after she started at Ashland Elementary this school year, she decided to resign.

She was leaving each day feeling defeated. She had no teacher’s aide. She couldn’t control her classroom of 21 kindergartners, most of whom had not attended preschool.

“I had lessons planned for teaching them the routines and procedures. But I couldn’t get the class to sit still for five minutes,” said Sahaida, who previously had worked in the Kirkwood and Ladue school districts.

More than 50 teachers have resigned from St. Louis Public Schools in the past 10 weeks, putting the district in the difficult position of looking for replacements when there aren’t many applicants.

Half of those resignations came after the first day of school, according to the district. They are reflective of the high number of new hires in the 72-school city system and the challenges new teachers face when teaching in a city classroom for the first time.

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The district employed about 1,900 teachers in June. Teacher departures this school year are about 25 to 30 percent higher than in recent years, district figures show.

Since last spring, the district has sent recruiters as far as Michigan and Mississippi in search of talented educators who could elevate the level of instruction in the struggling city school system. They have had to replace 207 teachers who accepted an early retirement package the district offered last spring to save money. An additional 187 teachers, principals and other staff resigned at the end of the year, most to take jobs at charter schools or districts in surrounding counties.

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Sahaida’s experience is typical of new hires in urban classrooms, where a greater percentage of children live in poverty and come to school with health, family and other issues on a larger level than in more affluent suburban districts. Teachers often aren’t ready for it.

“This is a pattern we see in all urban districts,” said Carole Basile, dean of the College of Education at the University of Missouri-St. Louis. The university is working to do a better job of training teachers for these experiences.

Based on historical data, a quarter of teachers in St. Louis Public Schools leave after the first year in its schools. In charter schools, the percentage is greater—30 percent, according to the most recent annual report by the city teachers’ pension system.

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  • Key takeaway: Superman isn’t coming to the St. Louis Public Schools anytime soon, or ever.

    Laura Sahaida was a great teacher when she taught in the suburbs. But when she got to the black city, not so great.

    • White Mom in WDC

      There are no good schools, just good students. There are no good teachers, just students who are ready to learn and who are willing to submit to the process

      • You are guilty of hatethink and crimethink. For punishment, I sentence you to watch Waiting for Superman ten times.

        I actually think forcing any public school teacher to watch that movie is defined as torture under the Geneva Convention.

      • borogirl54

        The teachers have to be willing to teach. Most of the inner city teachers have given up on teaching and instead end up babysitting a bunch of kids that really do not want to be in school and it shows.

        • Winston Merryweather

          More like wardens than baby sitters.

        • me

          It’s easier to train a wild chimpanzee than to teach these lil’ niglets.

          • Whitetrashgang

            Depends on what you want them to do .I myself consider them not craping on my yard a success if not a victory.

          • ShermanTMcCoy

            Or flinging feces.

          • ShermanTMcCoy

            I was about to say. More like zookeepers.

          • OlderWoman

            I saw that first hand when a black couple in my building brought their grandson to spend a couple of weeks with them. He was all of five years of age but already exhibited a criminal bent. He was destructive, bumming money off of Whites, abusing our property and, in general, had a nasty attitude. His grandfather, a racist who loves obama, would yell at him and threaten him but never curbed his behavior. So much for black discipline. BTW, another of their grandsons has been forbidden to come to our building because of his behavior.

          • Alexandra1973

            We had issues when a mulatto woman with her son (fathered by a black man) lived across the hall from us. She had a black boyfriend who was not the baby-daddy living with them. One time I almost called the police because of the fighting I could hear across the hall–I was ready to take my son and head over to the in-laws’.
            At any rate, her boy was a little punk. Some other kids would come over, and one time I heard someone smacking something against the porch railings. I looked and saw that they had brooms–which had been in our section of the shared carport. I told them to put them back (which they did).
            Then one time I saw those same kids go into the carport, between my van and the wall. I had no idea what they were up to. So…I took my keyfob and hit the PANIC button–boy did they come tearing out of there! One of the baby-mammas came running out and I said they must have tripped the alarm on my van (snicker).
            They moved out suddenly in the middle of the night, scraped the U-Haul along the fence in the process. I told the landlady that they’d skedaddled at 1 am. She told me that next time she’d be checking references. She really didn’t want to rent to them but was afraid of legal repercussions, and I said I understood. On the plus side, my son got some toys because they’d left stuff behind….can you say reparations? LOL

      • Andy

        Well, I’d have to disagree with you there. I’ve had some good teachers and quite a few bad ones.

        But on a large scale, the studies show it’s the students that make the difference.

      • Whitetrashgang

        Well more like-There are no good schools, just good students. There are good teachers ,but there are bad students.

      • David Ashton

        There are teachers better than others, but how often your point has to be made against “right-wing” people, especially in Britain, who have no real idea of what the learning process actually entails inside the classroom. In the UK the “good schools” are mainly those with pupils able and willing to learn; the “bad schools” are mainly those with stupid and disruptive pupils. The “conservative” answer is not to reduce class sizes in the latter case, but to close the schools, sack the teachers (often the hardest-working and most experienced, therefore expensive), and send the low-IQ troublemakers to ruin other schools. Meanwhile, multicultural classes and ideology continue as before.

      • It has a lot to do with how their parents have raised them.

  • Puggg

    High sugar high carb diets, little real parental control, zoned out in front of the TV and video games, listening to that god awful hip hop, and low IQ. 20 or more of them in a room at the same time and a 25 year old white woman full of progressive slogans and platitudes gets burned out within a week. Gee, ya think?

    • Easyrhino1

      Bada bing! We have the post of the day.

    • White Mom in WDC

      These kids have not had the ‘board of education’ applied to their butts

      • borogirl54

        If a teacher did that, they would be sued by the kid’s parent for abuse.

        • Winston Merryweather

          Or possibly knifed by one of the students.

        • Alexandra1973

          But yet it’s okay to make ghetto lobster.

      • Jenkem Huffington

        The few blacks I’ve ever dealt with that could act somewhat respectful and domesticated ALL say they got their asses beat in school if they stepped out of line. Swift violent reprisal is the only language these primitives understand

      • MBlanc46

        Not in school. But plenty of them are regularly beaten at home (a fundamental tool of black parenting). If it has any effect at all, it just makes them more violent.

      • Sick of it

        Indeed, I remember fearing a dreaded review by said board.

      • QuinnTheEskimo9

        Try it now and you ‘ll get you azz sued and your career and life ruined.

    • Spartacus

      Sounds like… MULTICULTURALISM ! YAY !

    • 48224

      I have been there and done that. I taught in Detroit.

      • Sick of it

        My condolences.

      • Irishgirl

        You ought to be entitled to veteran’s benefits.

    • drattastic

      I may have been hasty you are tired for first place post.

    • *golf clap*
      You nailed it.

    • ShermanTMcCoy

      Educating subhumans is problematic. Where’s the surprise?

    • evilsandmich

      Were that all it was. My wife did a short stint at an inner city pre-school, after all, how bad could they be? About as bad as can be imagined as they acted out all forms of debauchery that they witness in their homes every night.

    • Caledwych

      Hear hear!!Stupid liberal white girl hiding behind your excuses of “not enough resources and mentoring”—-welcome to the real world!!

  • Easyrhino1

    There are traits and concepts such as:

    impulse control
    conflict resolution skills
    delayed gratification

    that certain groups have difficulty mastering for innate reasons.

    • drattastic

      Best comment

  • Biff_Maliboo

    Since when did we start calling them ‘challenges?’

    • D.B. Cooper

      Oh, please. That word has been a running joke for years now. Look up any article about failing schools, increasing diversity, increasing crime, and budget problems, and you will find… that word.

      • Spartacus

        I can think of a more appropriate one. It starts with “n” and ends with “igger”.

      • Alexandra1973

        A while back I was watching the news and they were whining about Cleveland public schools. I noticed that just about all the students were black, and I was thinking, there’s your problem right there.

  • D.B. Cooper

    There’s that word again, “challenges”.

    • Sick of it

      It is a challenge…a challenge to get out of the school alive each and every day.

  • CharlesFinley

    I wouldn’t teach that bantu-groidian filth for a million per year.

    Worthless, hateful, murderous sprogs.

    This country is phuckt.

  • ncpride

    Half of those resignations came after the first day of school……

    Just… wow. Is it too much to think that when the time comes and there are NO teachers left to be hired, these apologists with their loony liberal ideology just might look at things differently….? You know, perhaps realize being bullied with impunity, being blamed for every conceived wrong and expected to play parent to uncontrollable, disrespectful ‘youth’, is probably a really stupid plan, which leaves little, to no incentive to teach at all?

    Nah, probably not.

    • borogirl54

      What is going to happen next is that teacher recruiters will go to foreign countries such as Jamaica or the Philippines to recruit replacements. These teachers will be in for a culture shock because they come from school systems where children are taught to mind from day one. Here, they will end up with a bunch of terrors who short of a whipping, cannot be controlled.

      • drattastic

        Jamaica ? Really ? Get outside the touristy part and it’s dangerous as hell.

        I’ve also been to the Philippines and I’ll agree with you there.

        • capnmorgan5150

          Yep. Jamaica is the rape capitol of the world.

      • Sick of it

        They’ve actually started recruiting Filipino teachers for Shreveport schools, because no one else wants to work there.

        • borogirl54

          I know they recruited teachers from the Philippines for Baltimore City Schools and I saw a documentary on that and the teachers had culture shock because they were not used to kids not listening to their teachers as they had in the Philippines.

          • captainc

            /watch?v=GXz-zzEm2OM watch 5:40, these piece of shits

          • capnmorgan5150

            That Filipino lady got more than she bargained for, lol!

          • Ed

            They drove that nice woman to cry and notice PBS doesn’t allow comments. They know what would follow.

      • Wethepeople

        Hiring from Jamaica? You seem to be misinterpreting the problem. The blacks are causing the problem in the first place. You can’t solve a black problem by bringing in more blacks.

        • borogirl54

          Jamaicans and other people from the West Indies do not behave the same way as black Americans do. Their schools are run in the British system where the students learn to respect their teachers. These people tend to be rather hard working people.

          • Wethepeople

            If blacks in Liberia, Zimbabwe and South Africa (all black African nations) act like American blacks, then why wouldn’t they do the same in Jamaica? It seems the blacks in Haiti act even WORSE then ours, why not Jamaican blacks? Black is black, genetics are our destiny. They act how they do here, in Rwanda and in Jamaica because that is how their DNA is written. It can’t be changed or taught differently, it is who they are.

            http://topconservativenews(dot)com/2011/10/education-crises-in-england-jamaicans-say-learning-is-gay/
            http://topconservativenews(dot)com/2010/05/jamaica-declares-state-of-emergency-as-police-battle-drug-gangs/
            http://topconservativenews(dot)com/2012/02/jamaican-from-notorious-hate-crime-beating-slapped-on-the-wrist/
            http://www(dot)tradingeconomics(dot)com/jamaica/unemployment-rate

            Remove the (dot) from each URL if you would like evidence.
            You can’t listen to the MSM, our blacks aren’t the way they are because of slavery, structural racism or any other leftist hooey. Like I said we don’t have an education problem, we have a black problem.

          • Mergatroyd

            Blacks are blacks with the same low IQ’s and violent tendencies whether they’re in Jamaica, France, the US, England, Africa. Doesn’t matter. Their low IQ’s are inherent and violence is in their DNA when they don’t get their way or can’t cope in a 1st world country.

          • OlderWoman

            The Dominican Republicans are also violent. The top crime there is abuse of women by macho Dominican men. I’ve experienced the violent nature of a Dominican neighbor and was forced to file a complaint with the police about his behavior. He is very dark skinned and dresses like blacks do. His clothing looks like something you’d buy at Freddie’s Fashion Mart.

          • David Ashton

            This used to be especially true of Barbados and once even of Jamaica. The British system in Britain is no longer run in the old way that still persists in some parts of the West Indies and former British colonial Africa. There are a few black educationists in Britain who are all for the old ways of discipline, literacy and respect, and opposed to the rap cult, political correctness and “playtime”. The white liberals and the black racketeers have no time for them, but older and decent black parents and grandparents of Christian outlook and often married are on their side.

          • Sick of it

            The British thought the same thing, until they imported those same people to England and their descendants…well let’s just say they’re very prone to crime.

        • Why not? The libtards always double-down on their proven failures.

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        It’s already happened in the LAUSD. Teachers have been recruited from Nigeria and the Philippines for years. Ditto for the nursing staff . Standards have been lowered considerably and most of them are unintelligible and not worth a damn, even though they’re rated as “highly qualified.”

        The district doesn’t care — as long as White teachers and nurses are replaced.

        Bon

        • proudwhitegirl

          It’s so true. Nothing is more wonderful than being ill and trying to decipher the Tagalog accent from the RN or having your child be taught by a 70 IQ Bantu import from a species of people that still can’t master bucket sanitation. It is sickening that qualified Americans cannot find nursing/medical or teaching positions because preference is given to these affirmative action imports.

        • Sick of it

          This might be a genuine case of them trying to fill spots that American teachers really don’t want. Especially in Los Angeles. If you teach there…do you wear body armor and carry a machine gun?

      • ncpride

        Recruiting these foreign ‘teachers’ will just give them a thousand more excuses to explain away black failure, because they are running out of ways to blame YT. A win-win, so to speak, for them. Get rid of White teachers, and get ready- made excuses at the same time.

    • Brian

      The Deborah Brown school in Tulsa, 99% black, and mostly black teachers/admins, has stern discipline, rigid rules, and corporal punishment. Seems to work according to the parents and test scores. But now they’re being excoriated in the press for telling a girl she her dreadlocks were against the rules, so the dad (barber) pulled her out and made a stink. You can’t win.

      • ncpride

        No, we can’t win. It’s ALWAYS damned if you do, and damned if you don’t with blacks.

  • Spartacus

    “This is a pattern we see in all urban districts”

    ———————————————————————————————————————

    You mean groid districts, right? Find me a similar one that is White and has similar problems, and… We’ll, I don’t have to bet anything, since there is no such thing.

    • MBlanc46

      “Urban” is just a code word for “black”.

      • Caledwych

        If you lived in St. Louis all your life like I have,you learn the local media code words….black flash mobs are “boisterous youth” and “urban” means…you know.It’s the game us white folk here have to play.

        • MBlanc46

          A world of code works, winks and nudges, and innuendo, because we’re not permitted to publicly speak the truth about blacks.

  • The SLPS is also facing an academic cheating scandal. It was able to get it self out of disaccreditation and into a state of partial accreditation based on factors that will probably turn out to be a result of cheating. That combined with rapid teacher burnout, and sure as Christ made apples the SLPS will be disaccredited again. In another time and place, I would be doing victory laps all over the blogosphere about that, but not now. That’s because if the SLPS gets unaccredited again, which it probably will, their students, wild kindergartners and all, will be able to transfer out to any school district in a neighboring county, in this particular case, anywhere in St. Louis County.

    It’s that dumb Turner law which nobody is in the mood to repeal, while I’m here in Jefferson City watching the General Assembly override or fail to override the Governor’s vetoes on legislation that mostly won’t matter to most people.

  • 1gravity

    Help is on the way! The United States Conference of Mayors has just this week decreed a “10-Point Plan of Action,” calling for policies and programs … “improving education to provide young people the opportunities to succeed and fill the jobs of the future ….” Smooth sailing is now assured in St. Louis kindergartens.

    • drattastic

      Bet that works out.

    • MBlanc46

      Do I hear the theme music from “Mighty Mouse” in the background?

      • Oil Can Harry

        How DARE YOU invoke the name of my mortal enemy!

    • sbuffalonative

      HALLELUJAH! They’ve finally come up with a system that will work! BTW, I heard it was snowing in Hell.

    • Yale2001

      hilarious

  • APaige

    Half quit after the first day! My aunt was a third-grade teacher, who was going to be a Nun, but left the convent to have a greater impact on the world. She was teaching in a majority white area that built a low-income senior citizen home. That home became flooded with black seniors trying to escape the ghetto. The new address allowed them to have their grand and great-grand children attend the local school. In all truth my aunt is one of the most compassionate people I have ever meet-she is so nice she makes you feel guilty for not being as nice. (no joke). She loved teaching, and seeing their former students grow-up and to visit her. After the blacks attended the school she was the first to take an early retirement package.

    • Mergatroyd

      Being nice to blacks is always the wrong approach and has go a lot of people killed. Blacks understand nothing but brutality, physical aggression and the business end of a .44 pointed straight at them.

  • White Mom in WDC

    I taught and school counseled in urban schools. These kids come to kindergarten without any ‘readiness’. They have essentially been raised like mushrooms watching videos such as grand theft auto and eating bad food. They have not been read to and only know to listen to people who conduct themselves like thugs.

    • borogirl54

      I guess what they say about Head Start is true. You would think that the kids would have learned something after two years in Head Start? But I guess not.

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        Head Start is a resounding failure. This is from the government’s own study — which they held onto for FOUR years and then released quietly on Christmas Eve, 2012.

        I swear I have fought this for years and years — the common wisdom seems to be that Head Start does what it says it does, which is, “promote school readiness of children ages birth to 5 from low-income families by enhancing their cognitive, social and emotional development.”

        Cato Institute, “Head Start: A Tragic Waste of Money”

        President Obama’s Department of Health and Human Services assessment of Head Start finished collecting the data in 2008—and then waited four years before releasing the study on the Friday before Christmas 2012

        Forty-five years and $166 billion later, it has been proven a failure.

        The bad news came in the study released this month: It found that, by the end of the first grade, children who attended Head Start are essentially indistinguishable from a control group of students who didn’t.

        not a single one of the 114 tests administered to first graders — of academics, socio-emotional development, health care/health status and parenting practice — showed a reliable, statistically significant effect from participating in Head Start.

        http://www dot cato dot org/publications/commentary/head-start-tragic-waste-money

        Heritage Foundation

        Head Start, the federal preschool program, says it “promotes the school readiness of children ages birth to 5 from low-income families by enhancing their cognitive, social and emotional development.”

        But the government’s own evaluations have shown that it just does not do this.

        The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) released its latest findings of a long study that followed Head Start kids all the way to third grade.

        The findings: ‘by third grade, the $8 billion Head Start program had little to no impact on cognitive, social-emotional, health, or parenting practices of participants. On a few measures, access to Head Start had harmful effects on children.’

        http://www dot askheritage dot org/is-head-start-a-complete-failure/

        Please everyone: Spread the Word and Tell Everyone You Know so I don’t have to keep reading on forums like this about the success of Head Start.

        Bon

        • cablegirls

          Total silence from the MSM about the report of Head Start failure. New York Times? Crickets. Washington Post? Crickets. LA Times? Crickets.

        • You’re ignoring the real aim of programs like Head-Start: the extortionate taxation of working whites to provide easy make work “jobs” to black and brown incompetoids. By this standard, Head Start is a resounding success.

      • GeneticsareDestiny

        I went to Head Start as a child. It was a waste of the taxpayer’s money. Not only were most of the kids irredeemably low-IQ, the “teachers” were almost all black women who were just there for a paycheck. We did nothing but play all day, except for a short naptime part way through.

        I went into kindergarten prepared, but that’s because I’m not low-IQ. I would have been equally prepared even if the government had never shelled out for Head Start.

    • Diversity Awareness Brigade

      I met a White social worker who was upset that so many White teachers flee black schools. Her solution was too complex to understand, but it had something to do with “systemic, institutional, and structural.” She never came out and said it, but I could tell she would support mandatory black school teaching assignments for teachers to keep their licenses.

      “The only qualified White teachers are those who dedicate their lives to blacks, no matter the consequences.”

      • Sick of it

        That might be a good new rule, if all white social workers were simultaneously forced to live in inner city ghettos. Oh, I’m guessing she wouldn’t want THAT.

        • Diversity Awareness Brigade

          She was White privileged enough to be in the same place at the same time with Whitest me, which means she was implicitly fleeing Diversity.

          I was explicitly, as always.

          • Caledwych

            They always do that.Leftists love talking their progressive bumper sticker slogans as they go back to their lily-white upper class yuppie villages.Living with the ‘groids is something they expect YOU to do.

        • Mergatroyd

          Makes sense. That’s how New Orleans black-ified their police force, by mandating that POlice had to live in town. Later, when the hurricane hit, those same homie POlice were leading the looting brigades in WalMart, in uniform no less.

          • Sick of it

            Yeah I heard about that, but stories of them breaking into homes after people had evacuated.

      • Andy

        At the same time such people complain that black children are being negatively affected because their teachers are mostly white.

        • Bon, From the Land of Babble

          It’s a no-win situation. White teachers are highly prized because we have a better work ethic than blacks — I could tell you scores of anecdotal stories about how many times I had to COVER for black teachers because they couldn’t seem to get to work on time, or left at lunch, or left before the day was out, or didn’t show up — with NO consequences to them.

          If we White teachers stay in black schools, we are axiomatically deemed “racist” because we are White. If we flee black schools we are axiomatically deemed “racist” as well for wanting to escape.

          Many black teachers are poorly educated in the subject matter they teach (not ALL of them, of course) — there was SUCH a push to credential “teachers of color” that standards were dropped considerably. The old subject-matter NTE was dropped years ago because blacks couldn’t pass it and the very basic CBEST test — a 6th grade or lower basic math/reading/writing test for teachers — amid charges of racism” — was profoundly dumbed down over the years because black couldn’t pass it. We’ve had scores of sub-par teachers of color pushed through and placed into classrooms.

          There are a lot of mis-educated young Whites in education but many of them are dedicated, hard working and really want to “make a difference.”

          I agree: black teachers should be in black schools — only thing is, they don’t want to be there either.

          Bon

        • Diversity Awareness Brigade

          White teachers should never try to give blacks a Western style education. Blacks are only suited for jungle “wisdom.”

          Only White teachers who have spent years with the Peace Corps trying to teach blacks in the Congo about basic sanitation should ever be allowed in a black classroom.

  • Jefferson

    Being a White teacher in a predominatly or all Black public school is one of the most dangerous jobs in the world. It ranks right up there with being a coal miner and a fisherman for example.

    • I worked on a long liner and the worst thing that happened to me there was getting snagged with a baited hook and pulled over. I’d never work as an urban schoolteacher.

    • borogirl54

      That is why teachers in these schools need to receive combat pay from their school districts.

    • drattastic

      The trick is to pack heat, let them know you pack heat.

      Don’t attempt to educate them , it’s pointless.

      Let them run wild in the class room. A good set of noise canceling headphones.

      If they become violent with one another, which is common with wild animals, leave the classroom and alert school security.

      If they are having sex in the classroom ignore it.

      If they are doing drugs in the classroom, ignore it.

      No point in attempting to educate something that will be dead or in prison in a few years.

      Collect paycheck go home.

      Besides don’t all 3rd graders act this way.

      • sbuffalonative

        I agree. I think it’s racists to expect black children to act like white children. Doing so only stifles their true black nature.

      • I taught college chemistry lab classes, and I really liked it. My students all wanted to be there, and I did a good job for them. If I were going back to regular work, that is what I would want to do.

        The difference is that I was teaching 18-21 year-old whites and Asians.

        • borogirl54

          Was this an advanced Chemistry class that was designed for Chemistry majors? Not very blacks major in Chemistry.

          • It was organic lab for serious non-majors, like pre-med, biochemistry and chem-eng. Three four-hour sessions each week. My specialty was metal-organic work, sometimes with heterogenous metal-metal bonds. I was excellent at organic wet work, but not so at theory. I brushed up on it to help the wife of my employer with her take-home final. Some of it was devastatingly difficult. I got her a 100, and my reward was being hired full-time.

            I loved my students, and I still wish I could do that full-time. Other than with my daughter, my last time teaching was with some of the guys working on GEDs in federal prison. During the math work, I taught them a lot about conic sections they didn’t need to know. I wrote to them after my release, illegally, but since the statute of limitations has expired, I can’t be prosecuted for it. Also, I wanted them to go straight, like I did. Since they don’t have my mother, they were stuck with me. I look them up on the BOP website, and none of them have gone back.

    • Andy

      Are you serious or exaggerating?

  • White Mom in WDC

    Bring back the ‘board of education butt application’.

    • Say the word “disparate impact” three times and sin no more.

      • evilsandmich

        Whatever troll is down-voting you, they need to be given the boot.

  • LudwigvonDrake

    This woman found out what its like to baby sit in a taxpayer funded daycare.

    I watched the worst segment ever on Fox and a Friends this morning. A black couple and their six preschool children proceeded to turn a high tech set into complete chaos in about 3 minutes. The passive parents only intervened momentarily when one young Bantu attempted to abscond with one of the anchor’s laptops.

    The blonde host concluded the interview with the question “so what words of wisdom can you leave with us about raising children?” I said “this outta be good”.

    Of course it was momma who fielded the question by saying “Jess let the kids be kids”. Uh huh. Wow. How profound.
    These kids will be turning a classroom chaotic in a year or two.

    • MBlanc46

      Yeah, do that. They’ll be shooting each other before they’re socially promoted to high school.

    • The Final Solution

      Why were they on TV to begin with? It wasn’t National Geographic? Black ‘parenting’ is not unlike wild animals, which usually abandon their young and they pretty much have to figure everything out instinctly.

      • JohnEngelman

        That is known as r-strategy parenting.

      • Frans

        You give wild animals a bad name by equating them with blacks for blacks are not their equal. The difference is that animal parents teach their offspring how to “behave” and survive before ‘abandoning’ them, as you called it. Blacks are too dumb to know to teach their kids anything, not to mention too lazy. Most animals aren’t like that.

  • John Smith

    I think this is funny

    Teaching has become a female dominated occupation.

    I’ll bet most of these “quitters” are deluded, guilt stricken, self hating white females…who will still cling to egalitarianism and political correctness like like a drowning man (er, woman) clinging to a life jacket

    I say f*** ’em…for being such dimwits. They deserve all the interracial torment thrown their way

  • borogirl54

    One thing that I find hard to believe is that most of these kindergartners did not go to Head Start. Most of them come from families that would qualify for Head Start. At least with Head Start, you would think they would have learned to behave in class. But again, I am not so sure about that.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      Head Start has essentially no impact on children’s cognitive or social development by the time they reach first grade. Right after last fall’s third-grade follow-up again showed no impact, the administration proposed to increase funding for Head Start, citing the “success” of the program.

      http://www.acf dot hhs dot gov/programs/opre/resource/third-grade-follow-up-to-the-head-start-impact-study-final-report-executive

      Repeat and Spread the Word until EVERYONE gets it.

      Bon

    • MBlanc46

      ” [Y]ou would think they would have learned to behave in class.”

      You must have been thinking about white children.

      • School isn’t about teaching children how to behave. Their parents either do that… or don’t.

        • MBlanc46

          I remember a few kids of the hundreds I went to 1-12 with who had behavioral problems. The other 98% knew enough to treat the teacher with respect and do what she or he asked them to do (well, except for the first two months of first grade).

    • GeneticsareDestiny

      Some black parents don’t seem to know it exists, though I’m not sure why. It may be a function of having an IQ so low that you fail to take advantage of all the government-funded programs you can.

      Sometimes blacks who qualify for Medicaid also fail to sign up, likely for this reason.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    I don’t believe it. Those teachers who quit were prejudiced and racist.

    Children in E St. Louis came to school ready to “build and create,” full of “imaginative play, cooperation, and with problem solving skills” after they turned in their toy guns for non-violent toys in July.

    http://www dot bnd dot com/2013/07/13/2693031/children-exchange-toy-guns-for dot html

    …most of whom had not attended preschool.

    Then the government needs spend more money to assure that each and every child has access to a quality pre-school education with a credentialed teacher trained in child development and early child education.

    Head Start has essentially no impact on children’s cognitive or social development by the time they reach first grade. But right after last fall’s third-grade follow-up again showed no impact, the administration proposed to increase funding for Head Start, citing the “success” of the program.

    http://www.acf dot hhs dot gov/programs/opre/resource/third-grade-follow-up-to-the-head-start-impact-study-final-report-executive

    // extreme sarcasm off.

    Bon

    Exchange of toy guns that caused extreme violence in E. St. Louis.

    • drattastic

      Hilarious, sad, true.

    • Diversity Awareness Brigade

      Everybody knows that racial disparities are caused by the failure of White teachers to acknowledge and check their White privilege. They must adapt to the social realities of the lived experiences of their struggling, yet promising and aspiring, students of color, especially the rap “artists.”

      White teachers need to be massively retrained for cultural competency so they will quite over reacting when blacks “disrupt” the classroom with vibrant enrichment. We can’t equalize suspension rates until White teachers do the right thing and stop hurting blacks with outdated White social construct disciplinary codes and punishments.

      Blacks all share the collective dream of a better America through reaching the promised prize of equality. White teachers who are on the wrong side of our history need to get out of the way. The future must not belong to those who blaspheme Diversity.

    • Sick of it

      That’s a great new educational program for the little darlings – A set of clowns to keep them entertained and a pair of cops to escort them off the premises when they get out of control.

  • drattastic

    They don’t need teachers they need wardens or lion tamers.

    • IstvanIN

      Cattle prods.

  • MBlanc46

    “[A] greater percentage of children live in poverty and come to school with
    health, family and other issues on a larger level than in more affluent
    suburban districts”.

    The children come to school black. That is the problem.

    • QuinnTheEskimo9

      @MBlanc46:

      Brilliant, concise, to the point.
      This is the thread winner.

      • MBlanc46

        Thanks.

  • IKantunderstand

    Wow. What does it say about the kinds of children you have in class, when you are incapable of controlling kindergartners? Or, are we discussing nine year old Blacks, who have continuously flunked kindergarten?

    • Evette Coutier

      I’ve seen some 9 year old black kids who were 6 feet tall and 200 lbs. Not to mention the black kindergartners who are 15 and 16 years old.

      • borogirl54

        Really, Kindergartners who were 15 and 16 years old? That is a new one to me. I have seen 20 year old high school freshmen and 21 year old Sophomores who are now trying to get the credits that they should have gotten years earlier. It is really a shame.

        • Evette Coutier

          It was an attempt at humor. I guess it was a failed attempt.

        • Caledwych

          In the state of Missouri,you must drop out of high school when you hit 21,no questions asked..or it used to be that way.Yes,I’ve seen it.

      • IKantunderstand

        You know, I am seriously confused by your reply to me. I was honestly speculating on why a teacher of a kindergarten class would leave after six days. But, according to you, this is not a surprise at all. Nine y/o Black kids are six feet tall and two hundred pounds. And, of course, the fifteen and sixteen year olds in kindergarten, could be quite a challenge! No wonder St. Louis has a hard time retaining teachers!

        • Evette Coutier

          It was a somewhat of a joke although not entirely. I was actually at a minority high school and saw this huge person walking down the hallway. I asked the person I was with, the principal, if this guy was a pro football player turned teacher, and he said not. It was an 11 grade kid who was 6 foot 8 inches tall at 400 lbs.

  • Diversity Awareness Brigade

    “The university is working to do a better job of training teachers for these experiences.”

    Translation: Check Your White Privilege.

    • sbuffalonative

      The training will likely consist of lecturing the teachers to be more understanding and sympathetic to the plight of inner city youth. If they really wanted to help the teachers they’d issue them whips and give them permission to use them as they deem necessary.

      • Diversity Awareness Brigade

        The White teachers will hear mostly about Trayvon and how they are all Zimmermans who must atone for global suffering in Africa and Haiti.

        There homework will be listening to dynamic rap “music” and picking their favorite rap “artist” whose lyrics help them “bridge the gap” in the classroom.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      It’s called “unpacking” your White Privilege from your invisible, racist knapsack — which contains a special package of provisions and unearned assets which, as an Evil Racist White, you cash in each day to put yourself at an advantage over blacks .

      White privilege gives All White Devils maps, passports, codebooks, visas, clothes, tools and blank checks to use against blacks and other PoC (People of Color) — a virtual Rosetta Stone that only privileged Whites have access to!!

      IN the name of social justice and “past bad acts”, Genetically Evil Whites must embrace and celebrate White genocide as the most honorable of all causes.

      As the Honorable and Venerated Rep Sheila Jackson Lee stated: “What are we to think when the scales of justice are even equally unbalanced?

      Bon

  • Winston Merryweather

    Poor woman. That must have been like entering a room full of Doberman Pincers.

    • Diversity Awareness Brigade

      Pit bulls. Keep it real on Amren, or go away.

      • Puggg

        Thankfully, I’ve never seen a black with a pug.

        • Bon, From the Land of Babble

          Yeah, but some of those pugs are picking up black culture.

          Look at this punk!!

      • Frans

        No, even pit bulls and dobermans aren’t as bad as blacks. At least dogs are trainable.

  • Evette Coutier

    “The university is working to do a better job of training teachers for these experiences.”

    Send them to Marine Drill Sargent academy for 6 months and give them shock collars for each student. Problem solved.

    • The problem with that is that Drill Instructors really care about trainees. I suspect they’re all vets and they want the guys they train to survive. It isn’t easy even when you do everything right.

      I think the idea with basic is to break everyone down and then build them back up again to some pre-set standard. My gripe is that while it produces acceptable soldiers out of mediocre civilians, it diminishes our creativity – unless we become officers, and then their career path diminishes that even more.

    • evilsandmich

      Seems like a play on Steve Sailer’s semi-sarcastic idea in that the best way to raise black kids is to make sure that they’re not raised by their families.

      • Evette Coutier

        It’s not intended to be a play on Steve, but his idea sure has merit.

  • Evette Coutier

    Preschool and headstart is the solution. Send them to preschool in Liberia. Let them swim back if they want to return.

  • “Challenges,” as in defying gravity, traveling faster than the speed of light . . .

  • borogirl54

    That is because white kids were taught at home to learn the alphabet, numbers and social skills.

  • borogirl54

    My niece is working on a multiple subjects credential that allows her to teach at any grade level. She wants to teach special education. In June, she will graduate with both her teaching credential and a Masters in Education. I wonder what kind of future she will have teaching in the public schools.

  • Rusty Shackelford

    She might have been killed before she had a chance to quit.

  • Rusty Shackelford

    Most black kids are grown, not raised.

  • Peter Lamoureux

    Maybe they can replace the teachers with immigrants, it looks like the current trend.

  • robinbishop34

    I live in St. Louis and it’s not at all uncommon for me to turn on the news and hear of yet another ‘City’ (that word is important) school failing, losing accreditation, closing, etc. Just this summer there was a notoriously violent and stupid City district that failed and people 20 miles away in lily white suburbs were told they have to now shoulder the burden of all the kids that want to get on a bus at 5 a.m. and trek out and destroy their districts.

    • Caledwych

      Yup,and they portray the little darlings as just “victims of a racist culture just trying to get an education”.Also,the St. Louis morning news reports at least one shooting every morning.EVERY morning.They don’t give the suspect names or descriptions,only the street it occurred.And if you’ve lived in the city,ALL the street names are north side.Code speak!

  • Funruffian

    Now the resignation tide will increase only to see a school district that is in need of CC Officers instead of educators. Or should I say ape trainers?

  • JohnEngelman

    Tim Wise should sit in some of these class rooms.

    • robinbishop34

      So how do we rattle his chain? What are some viable solutions that Suzy Homemaker (I’m one currently) can swallow? In my mind it has to be cheesy sales pitches.

    • robinbishop34

      I’m not challenging you, I’m asking.

      • JohnEngelman

        I missed your question.

        • robinbishop34

          One below.

    • QuinnTheEskimo9

      I thought Tim Wise was one of your heroes.

      • JohnEngelman

        After four Negroes almost murdered me someone suggested that I read Tim Wise’s essay, “The Color of Deception.” That is an attempt to refute Jared Taylor’s “The Color of Crime.” According to “The Color of Deception” the real problem is not black crime; it is white racism.

        After reading “The Color of Deception” I read “The Color of Crime.” According to “The Color of Crime” blacks have a rate of violent crime that is eight times the white rate, and whites are vastly more likely to be victims of black criminals than are blacks to be the victims of white criminals.

        Which essay do you think made more sense to me?

        Since reading “The Color of Crime” I have been accessing this website nearly every day.

        Recently I had an e-mail exchange with Tim Wise. I tried to have a nice polite discussion. Unfortunately, when I refuted his arguments he became crude and abusive.

        • evilsandmich

          It’d be easier to have a polite discussion with a serial killer; at least they are deluded about what it is that they’re doing.

          • JohnEngelman

            I was actually disappointed with Tim Wise.

            I would like to sit down with an “anti-racist” and have a nice polite discussion about the reasons for black social pathology and inferior intelligence.

            Because the scientific evidence in favor of race realism is pretty unanimous, anti-racists can do nothing but engage in insults and name calling.

          • I could have told you this would happen. Your time and effort was not wasted, however – you learned something. One common mistake among race-realists is that the opposition is simply misinformed and with logical counterarguments they can be shown that they’re mistaken. Some of them are. Others are genuinely evil.

            Anti-racists can and do engage other than with insults and name-calling. The case at that restaurant a few years ago out in the Midwest somewhere involved assault with deadly weapons.

      • JohnEngelman

        You thought wrong.

    • I wouldn’t wish that even on Tim Wise. I have better candidates for that, and since there is a limited number of “vibrant”, “urban” classrooms, one must prioritize. Perhaps he might fit in as a janitor at a public high school in Detroit, Newark or Camden.

  • JohnEngelman

    After the failure of No Child Left Behind it should be obvious that most of those people cannot be educated. Unfortunately, it is not obvious. There will be more programs, more wasted tax money.

    Liberals will continue to advocate school integration while sending their children to white private schools.

  • JohnEngelman

    Liberals want more money to be spent on predominantly black public schools. They do not explain what the money will buy. They are opposed to homework. They are opposed to discipline. They are opposed to tests.

    • robinbishop34

      Solution John.

      • JohnEngelman

        I advocate an end to Aid to Families with Dependent Children, and the beginning of free abortion on demand. It should be easy for an unmarried female with a low IQ to terminate a pregnancy. It should be virtually impossible for her to raise the child.

        I also advocate a vastly harsher criminal justice system, where the emphasis is on the frequent use of capital punishment, and long prison sentences at hard labor enforced by corporeal punishment.

        Black ghetto riots should be crushed swiftly and brutally.

        • robinbishop34

          How?

          • JohnEngelman

            It is the direction the United States is moving in. Since 1980 the prison population has tripled.

          • robinbishop34

            What’s the balance sheet say?

          • Kit Ingoldby

            Do you deliberately post random drivel or is there some hidden purpose to the nonsense you are spewing?

          • Frans

            What are you talking about?

        • I have mixed feelings about capital punishment. I was once very much in favor of it, but after listening to an FBI agent lie under oath in my case, I know this happens quite a lot in murder trials.

    • robinbishop34

      Howdo you do that?

  • JohnEngelman

    We are often told that predominantly black public schools suffer from “unmotivated teachers.”

    Actually, they are highly motivated. They are motivated to pay their dues so that they can transfer to middle class schools with white and Asian students who have the intelligence and desire to learn, and who are safe to be around.

    • robinbishop34

      Never trust this worm. Never.

      • cablegirls

        What are you talking about, robinbishop???

  • bubo

    Thanks to liberalism American blacks have been devolving for decades. All formerly designated standards have been obliterated under the guise of “tolerance” and “equality.”

    To expect children to behave like a human is called “acting white” and therefore unacceptable in this political age.

  • hastings88

    “. . . where a greater percentage of children live in poverty and come to
    school with health, family and other issues on a larger level than in
    more affluent suburban districts.” Sorry, there is only one issue, and nothing can be done about until we can redesign genetic codes.

    I taught for one year at a 90% black community college a couple decades ago, and I noticed immediately that just getting the “adult” students to sit down and be quiet was my main “challenge.” That is the year I became a race-realist.

  • proudwhitegirl

    No white teachers should ever have to waste their time and talents babysitting bantu offspring. We all know the “heights” of which bantu are capable and it is called Haiti (or Detroit). Anything else is merely a liberal’s twisted dream projected on to a primitive, undeserving and graceless species.

  • Romulus

    Bull. The reality is that the teachers cant cope with the stupidity and aggressive behavior of chillins. The same parallel has been demonstrated many times over in the baltimore,philadelphia,detroit,camden,chicago,birmingham,new york,LA, school districts.

    • libertarian1234

      “The reality is that the teachers cant cope with the stupidity and aggressive behavior of chillins.”

      That’s the problem in a nutshell.

      These media types and academics who keep coming up with excuses need to be forced into teaching these primitives themselves, with the admonition they won’t be paid at the end of the year unless they succeed.

      Then somebody should keep track of the number of nervous breakdowns that occur.

    • QuinnTheEskimo9

      I assume this is what you mean?
      The reality is that teachers can’t cope with the stupidity and aggressive behavior of black children.
      The same parallel has been demonstrated many times over in the black schools in…

      • Romulus

        You assume correctly, my fine frozen friend. Lol

  • Jonathan_Silber

    School uniforms are said to promote order in class;
    why not require of the students of Head Start,
    in order to prepare them for the lives after school
    years that many of them will live, orange jumpsuits?

  • David Ashton

    Nearly 50 YEARS AGO a white teacher called Robert Kendall wrote a book about his grim experiences in two predominantly black schools in Los Angeles and secured its publication as bestseller with the title “Never Say N—-r” (my deletion). Deja vu? Plus ca change?

    It is worth reading today, including a closing reflection: “…Would the dream of equality prove the Achilles heel of America…?”

    • David Ashton

      PS – It was published by Regnery in the US, but there was an outcry over its title almost entirely from whites. It was published by Tandem Books in London with the original title deliberately retained in 1966, but this would be absolutely impossible and probably illegal in the Britain of 2013.

  • What it doesn’t tell you is that St. Louis and Kansas City are some of the most lavishly funded schools in America.

    • KCPS is on the verge of disaccreditation as well. Thanks to that God-forsaken Turner law, if/when that happens, then KCPS students will be able to transfer to any school district in Jackson County or a Missouri county that borders Jackson County, and there are five Missouri counties that border Jackson.

      • evilsandmich

        The only solution that springs to mind is to set up some ‘firewall’ schools immediately outside of the district that will abosorb most of the body blow as the former students will want to go to the marginally better schools closest to their house. Another solution is for the surounding whites to get on the ‘THAT”S RACIST” bandwagon against disaccreditation; I’d be writing checks to whatever black malcontent is making the most noise about disenfranchisement or whatnot.

        • At this point, your second suggestion is the one that will have a chance to work. What it’s going to have to do, though, is out-racist the notion that it’s racist not to let the blacks transfer.

          I spent the entire run of the State Fair last month there on business, not to obsess over rodeo clowns. But one of my secondary personal objectives was to take the temperature on the chances of repealing the state law which makes transfers possible, as a lot of politicians and connected political types go to the SF. And it’s not good, because lamestream conservatism in the Republican Party both here and everywhere have been totally thrown into the cult of school choice for a long time. By contrast, waiting for Superman is only a recent development in the Democrat-left side. Too, Republican politicians in this state are not at all scared of white backlash in affected school districts, mainly because the backlash will be contained in a few specific areas. The Republican establishment in this state knows that there are a number of politicians in their own party who are serious about wanting to repeal that law, but they’re confident that they’re too small a minority.

          Another consideration occurred to me a few days ago: Whites generally don’t like deseg, but they really really really don’t like it if it’s the kind of deseg where their kids are bused to a mixed or black school. If it’s the kind of deseg where whites get to stay put and a few blacks bused in, yeah, they might not like it, but they won’t dislike it so much as to engage in Boston-style outrage. And that, of course, was driven because whites were being bused out. This transfer thing here does not involve busing whites to black schools, only busing blacks to white schools, which means a world of difference in white reaction.

          If you’re in a state that’s considering legislation to allow students in unaccredited districts to transfer out, do everything you can to keep it from passing.

          • evilsandmich

            Part of it, which doesn’t help, is that the teachers unions have made themselves sworn enemies of anything having to do with conservatism and many in the GOP are willing to have some of their consituents boned over in order to really put the screws to the unions. The icing on the cake is that the GOP can also blame the unions for the whole mess (which actually isn’t a complete fabrication).

          • There’s another thing.

            For a long time, the conventional wisdom on the right was that teachers unions had an unbreakable stranglehold on the Democrat Party. But that notion was blown to smithereens for how quickly the Democrats ditched the teachers unions and signed onto the Waiting for Superman mentality. That means the teachers unions hold on the Democrat Party was never that strong.

            Now, I can’t blame anyone for ever thinking it, because all they were doing was noticing things and drawing conclusions. Sometimes, things happen that force you to reevaluate your previously held assumptions and conclusions.

    • Diversity Awareness Brigade

      It tells us that White taxpayers are addicted to suffering for the sake of black “uplift.”

  • OlderWoman

    Corporal punishment by my southern father kept me and my siblings in line. We knew not to misbehave or we would be harshly reprimanded.

    Spare the rod, spoil the child.

    • My daughter has never been spanked. After the way my ex-father treated my sister and me, I just don’t have the heart for it.

  • JohnEngelman

    Black social pathology and inferior intelligence is the crazy aunt in the attic that everyone tries to avoid talking about until she makes so much noise she cannot be ignored.

    • WR_the_realist

      Of course we’ve also all learned to read “urban” as “black”. So when the dean of College of Education says, “This is a pattern we see in all urban districts,” we all know what she means.

  • jane johnson

    “…most of whom hadn’t attended preschool.” Oh, for the days when kindergarten WAS preschool, which many of my peers didn’t attend, but did fine in first grade anyway.

    • Using the WAG method, I’d say those kids were white.

      • jane johnson

        Mostly White. It was a Catholic school, and the Nuns did NOT spare the rod. Complaining about it at home earned you another spanking for being disrespectful. I’m not talking about anything abusive, just an effective attitude adjustment.

    • WR_the_realist

      I never went to nursery school. I never went to kindergarten. My first day of formal education was in first grade. I do remember it being something of a psychological shock, but I survived it. The classroom being white, the teacher did too. My dearth of preschool schooling didn’t hurt me any, I now have a PhD in a technical field. And as I recall, I knew how to read going into the first grade.

      Really, nursery school and kindergarten are overrated. I think they basically serve as daycare for families with two working parents.

      • jane johnson

        Or as a socialization mechanism for the offspring of non-working, single-parent “families”.

  • prunepit

    The core problem is attempting to educate black children in schools conceived by whites for the education, enculturation, and socialization of white children.

  • benvad

    The thing that makes me laugh/cry the most, is the do gooder idealistic education crusader (aka white girl). Whose mission it is, to venture out into the wilds of Bantustan (Black infested public school), and try to reform the unreformable.

    Instead of admitting that it’s impossible to accomplish in the first place. All their notions of racial equality is put to the litmus test and destroyed.

  • MBlanc46

    Thanks, John. I especially liked the bit where he slapped the Mexican around. Can you imagine that on kids’ television today?

  • Caledwych

    Actually it’s almost there I.e. Detroit.Of course we have some liberal rich white guy that wants to pump 100 million to “revitalize” the North city….and the black “community activists” are upset because the guy “isn’t allowing us any input or consulting with us”(ghetto speak–he be dissing us).Of course the idiot millionaire is wasting his money pursuing his racial equality fantasies,since you can pump the entire GNP in the north side and it won’t change.And we’ll file the black reaction to the guy’s “dissing them” under the heading We Looked a Gift Horse in the Mouth.Seriously.these people are hopeless.

    • That rich guy isn’t liberal, he’s Rex Sinquefield, nominally a conservative Republican. Other than the fact that the state’s elected Republicans for the majority part and most elsewhere are ideologically thrown into this “school choice” nonsense, he and his moneybag influence is one of the main reasons why the transfer law is here to stay at least for the foreseeable future. Yes, he’s also big into school choice, vouchers, and what not.

      • Caledwych

        No,I’m thinking of that guy that’s running NorthSide project that wants to rebuild the area over by Crown Candy.David McKee,I think his name is?Anyway,say goodbye to your credit rating,Mr.Leftie:)

  • nignogger

    Misbehaving, rowdy and don’t care attitude is standard MO when dealing with black students. Its not rocket science. Many my friends and associates are Chicago public school teachers, some former combat arms officers, tell me the horror stories in dealing with this race of man. The parent (s) don’t care at all. If there is a father in the ‘fambly’, its rare. This is the groid mentality,; case-in-point: of the parent-teacher conference for 230 students at a elementary school, 7 mothers show up. That SEVEN! no fathers!! These people are something else.

  • lessthantolerant

    Can’t imagine anything worse than trying to teach 25 simians to act like humans.

  • jane johnson

    Not just from the ‘hood, but from all over the (third) world! It really is a shame.