Tables Turn on Fontaine Avenue Robbery Suspects

NBC 29, August 29, 2013

Charlottesville police say two men picked the wrong students to rob at gunpoint. The robbery suspects are behind bars, badly beaten by their victims.

Both suspects have severe injuries to their faces, but the victims–we’re told–are doing just fine. The pair who allegedly attempted an armed robbery had the tables turned on them Tuesday night, becoming victims themselves, so to speak.

Johnny Calderon Jr., 19, is facing four charges: two for attempted robbery, one for pointing a firearm and one for using a firearm in the commission of a felony.

Calderon has a lot of bruising on his face, but he was not as badly injured as Gerald Allen. Allen’s right eye is swollen shut. Allen, 18, is facing a pair of attempted robbery charges.

Police say the suspects, both from Charlottesville, had to be taken to the hospital before going to jail Tuesday night.

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  • MekongDelta69

    This is the ONE good story a week I requested from AmRen.

    [Click on the “Original Article” link to check out the “po’ chillens’ faces.”]

    • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

      It looks like the original article is back, for now.

      • me

        Yup. It’s a veritable celebration in the comments section. People are PSYCHED! The rare happy ending won’t be so rare in the future. People all need to stand up to this crap, with whatever means necessary.

        • BonusGift

          This are a few lessons that bear repeating, and one thought: (1) It is possible to ‘turn the tables’. (2) If you have a gun never blacks (or in this case, a black and a mestizo) get close to you as a gun can be neutralized if you are too close to the attacker (10 yards in considered safe, but possibly unrealistic; the point is that these two clearly ignored or were not aware of such a rule). (3) Can you imagine explaining to your cellmates that you are in jail because you were brutally beaten by an unarmed white victim during an armed robbery?

  • I want to see what the victims look like.

    • Major

      Done DB..I put it up.

  • Galt

    I wonder if the two student victims were white.

    Also, “facing possible charges”…?

    That’s right, if thugs attempt to harm you, then you must lie down and simply take what’s coming.

    I’m just glad to see the police are possibly siding with the story as told by the victims.

    Police also discouraged that type of behaviour when confronted by criminals. But, they just called it self-defense, which is legitimate!

    If the victims were white, don’t expect most white males to follow that, especially when we’re backed into a corner getting kicked like a helpless dog.

    The dog will bite back.

    • ncpride

      I’d almost bet money the victims are White. They target White people for a reason. They either think they’re rich and have something of value on their person, or they think YT is an easy, soft target. Looks like that was NOT the case here. HA!

    • MBlanc46

      That question occurred to me too. There’s certainly nothing that says there is. It being on a near the UVa campus suggests that they might be, but the question was being skirted, or so it seemed to me.

    • Reverend Bacon

      I think it’s commendable, if also lamentable, that these guys didn’t use the attacker’s gun against them. Had I been in that situation, and succeeded in turning the tables, I can’t swear that adrenaline and fear wouldn’t make me empty the magazine on their sorry corpses.

  • Luca

    Why aren’t they interviewing the victims? They’re heroes. Or is the media trying to drum up some sympathy the azz-whooped thugs?

    • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

      Right at the end of the video, the news anchor brings up the idea of charges against the victims for putting the pwnage on the perps. Plainly they felt that the beating they received was not appropriate.

      • ms_anthro

        If they are actually charged with anything for defending themselves, then we Whites need to storm the jail and demand their release, as we would have in better times. Outrageous.

      • Major

        Right…you see gun “control” only applies to the non criminals among us…never to the criminal scum. So now these guys beat the snot out these two putz’s and it’s a “disproportionate” response??? These punks had the gun…and the victims should have used it on them!

        • BonusGift

          Good point. If the victims had guns then this story would have been about ‘gun control’ legislation and avoiding ‘vigilante justice’ blah, blah, blah; but since they didn’t have weapons and the perps did then they almost couldn’t help themselves in throwing in a picture of the perps pulverized faces to try to elicit sympathy (I guess it didn’t work).

      • ms_anthro

        The news anchor is another presstitute. This list is getting impossibly long.

        • Luca

          I guess they are being shunned by the media because they don’t fit the politically correct model of the docile, guilt-ridden Whites who must allow themselves to be beaten and robbed.

      • SFLBIB

        Prosecutors have some discretion on which cases to prosecute. There is probably not much chance of getting a conviction against the victims since they didn’t have any weapons besides their bare hands [assuming the article is true]. Note also the city is in the South where a sane concept of justice prevails more often than say, New York, Los Angeles, or San Francisco.

  • joesolargenius

    This is what would have probably happened to them back in the sixties , which is one of the reasons why they stuck to robbing each other back then.

    • BonusGift

      If anyone cares for an anecdote on this topic, and a bit of proof that YT used to teach blacks that behaving badly had physical consequences. My father once told me of two acquaintances of his that used to walk around Lake Merritt in Oakland (probably in the late 50s; BTW Lake Merritt is in downtown Oakland, California and really a tidal estuary near the Bay) in order to see if any knee-grows would attack and then they would proceed to pulverize them. Apparently they did this for some time until the knee-grows caught on and overwhelmed them with a large enough feral pack to put them in the hospital. So, yes Virginia there was a time before the cultural Marxists had control that YT would periodically teach feral blacks not to act like blacks because there would be a price to pay for preying upon civilized people.

  • Puggg

    “Police caution victims not to detain or fight back versus their perpetrators.”

    This means I don’t think much of the police in Charlottesville, Virginia. It’s University of Virginia, a college town, so the police chief is probably left wing as all gitup.

    • A Freespeechzone

      Someone needs to remind the police chief that per the 2005 SCOUS ruling; LE is NOT OBLIGATED to protect you. http://www.nytimescom/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html?_r=1&

      • Major

        Eggszactly…they’re obligated to draw a nice chalk line around your dead corpse…well after they get around to you.

    • Police are just dog-poop who think they are the ONLY ones entitled to self-defense against vicious thugs. Police are therefore part of the problem, rather than a solution.

      • Puggg

        You wouldn’t happen to have the same opinion about sheriff’s deputies, would you?

        • evilsandmich

          The police officer at the concealed carry class warned that many police have that attitude, especially young ones recently churned out by our gestapo mills.

  • exlib93

    Tasers should be standard issue to all whites.

    • Tasers are too weak. You need something with a little more kick.

      • wasp spray! or maybe a big can of pepper spray. either should work wonderfuly.

      • DonReynolds

        Axe handle, with plenty of tape on the handle.

      • Major

        Nah…I don’t want to be within their reach…bullets are far better.

  • Tim_in_Indiana

    Oh, if this could only happen the every perpetrator of “the Knockout Game…”

  • Spartacus

    This is a pic of one of the perps. Doesn’t looking at it make you feel better ?

    • Romulus

      Yes!!!!!!! 😉 Im grinning from ear to ear !!!!!

    • Puggg

      It’s like an enemy casualty in a war.

      • Lagerstrom

        Not quite enough of a ‘world of pain’ for the useless fool, but very good nonetheless! Good on them for fighting back!

    • MekongDelta69

      Glad you screen shot that before (as I previously mentioned below), NBC deleted that story from the Net.

      • Spartacus

        What did you expect ? They can’t let Whites think that they can defend themselves…

        • MekongDelta69

          I got what I expected. The only surprising thing was that they ran it all.

          They didn’t expect the comments would turn on them.

          • BonusGift

            They truly are in their own world; and at some point they seem to believe their own lies. I would guess that next time they will do what they are trained to do: that is, merely suppress the story and/or make sure the victims are put in jail.

        • Jesse James

          I know I can defend myself, it isn’t the savages that worry me. The police, the prosecutors, the judges, the US Attorney General, those are the people I find scary.

          • ms_anthro

            Which is why we need to think carefully before deciding to involve them at all in cases like this. Is it worth it?

          • Spartacus

            Best to avoid the state whenever you can.

          • Major

            As a woman…you don’t have a choice nor the time to ponder the question. You need to act swiftly. And unless you’re a martial arts expert…you should opt for bullets.

          • ms_anthro

            I agree, Major. But what happens afterward, whether a phone call is made to the state or to your most trusted friends, determines the course of the rest of your life after using lethal force. In our closed circuit surveillance society, it’s not as easy as it used to be to fade quietly into the shadows.

          • Major

            Sorry for the late reply Ms.

            I don’t think you have any choice…it is your life at stake and I can’t see any state prosecuting a woman who’s thwarted an assault…any kind of an assault. The Zimmerman case is a perfect example of SYG….not withstanding the totally trumped up POS, political theater. It’s not something nor a situation where you’d have any time to consider alternatives. None of us would have any choice but to react forcefully.

            So I suppose I stand by my original comment. I just happen to live in a state where SYG is a right…period.

          • ms_anthro

            I can see it if the state somehow gets wind of the person’s unpopular opinions about race. Can’t you?

          • Major

            Hmmmmmm……well…I suppose. But so I have to ask…is it better to get some serious injuries first in order to justify a defense? Or…I hate to ask….should “guilt” win out? And…I know it’s stacked against us…the tables are never in our favor it seems.

          • ms_anthro

            No, no…you misunderstand. There’s no question that I would defend myself with whatever force necessary. What I’m suggesting is Whites might want to start giving serious thought to the concept of keeping these things in our own communities and not involving the anti-White state. We all saw what happened to Zimmerman even in a SYG state like Florida. And he isn’t even White. They brought in the FBI (!) to scour his history and past for the merest hint of racism or thought crimes. They didn’t find anything because Zim isn’t a realist–or wasn’t, before this.

            Now, imagine what would happen if a typical AmRen commenter were subjected to that kind of scrutiny? It’s a game changer.

          • Major

            Wow, wow, wow….yes…you’re 1000% right and I’m sure I’ll not even get a trial based upon my prolific record of YT defense and plain disgust in “my fellow man”!
            I live in FlaDuh…and so far the Governor and the state legislature have put down any attempts to even have a discussion..let alone a vote on bringing up SYG, so it stands unchanged. And I believe the racists tried to use this as a test case which would have affected 30 other states who use ours as a model ( Thanks to Jeb Bush ). However I have tell you that there are cases of SYG happening everyday in Florida and so far none have been an issue.

            Ironically it’s blacks who use SYG more often than whites. It makes sense when you think about it, right?

            So Ms I have no idea what to tell you. We all have to use our best instincts and do our best to avoid it. But be prepared none the less. I’ve carried for 28 years now in Florida off and on. But always when I travel in my car. Car Jackings are a big problem in Miami especially.

            BTW…you’re not with the FBI are ya?

          • ms_anthro

            Not that I know of, but I’m sure the FBI is with us all now, if you know what I mean. Anyone who posts on this site is surely on a list or three. Your confidence in SYG is reassuring. Maybe it’s not as dire as the control freaks want us to believe.

          • Major

            It was a joke…hey…gotta run Ms…but I have no fear…they can’t get all of us. And I’d think Jared would help us out? I’ll catch you tomorrow…same thread….I’m usually around about 9 or so..EST.

            Great exchange…Thanks.

          • Irishgirl

            Yes. See my comment on today’s article about the gang-rape.

      • foundingstockcracker

        I’d like to see a picture of Trayvonicus Beasticus strung up by his ankles like the shark that he is. ( Got that one Willie B.?)

    • The party is starting. And as I have said before, it isn’t going to be pretty.

      • me

        Party on, dude! This should happen every time some predatory animal tries to victimize someone.

    • exlib93

      He’s counting on liberal and black sympathy, regardless of the fact that he started it.

      • Next thing he will say is it was a crack deal gone bad.

        Google “88-year-old Delbert (Shorty) Belton” if you don’t know.

    • baldowl

      He’s still got his defiant, pouty gangsta lips. At least one of them should have been split.

      • Major

        I’d like to have seen all his teeth knocked out and eating Gerbers for the rest of his crappy life.

    • Tarczan

      This could be Obamas son!

      • Major

        No…Obummers “son” is 6 feet under now.

    • OlderWoman

      Wonder what Sharpton and Jackson thought about this. I hope they get the idea that Whites are fed up with black crime.

      • Irishgirl

        They probably frown upon it.

  • Romulus

    Oh happy day!. A little street justice goes along way to bringing back a sense of a comfort zone. It boosts confidence and puts perps on notice. Some will not let themselves be victims.

  • ms_anthro

    And how many more stories just like this one aren’t making headlines? Whites are awake and fighting back. And our numbers will only continue to grow.

    Keep planting those mustard seeds, everybody. The Wrath of the Awakened Saxon will serve our people well in the end.

  • DonReynolds

    MORE! HARDER! UNTIL THE COPS ARRIVE!

  • exLibtard

    Score one for the White team!

  • Major

    Here’s what the scummy little punks looked like after a couple white boys have had enough….and hey friends…this is a lesson for all of us…this is what black thugs should all look like after messing with us…and the cry will be…NO MORE! , NEVER AGAIN!

    • ms_anthro

      A perfect Rainbow Coalition.

      • Major

        They’re both black…and blue now.

        • ms_anthro

          The one on the right looks like some kind of mestizo/black quadroon to me.

          • Major

            Could be…like another son of Oummer’s? But as I understand it…they’re both black..but hey…maybe I’m wrong and we only have half the truth? Know what I mean?

          • ms_anthro

            Either way, I’m guessing he’s about as White as George Zimmerman. Proof positive that exceptions to a rule never disprove the rule. May they both rot behind bars well into middle age. (A girl can dream, right?)

          • Major

            Yes ma’am…you sure can. 🙂

            And cause these two dirtbags are adults…they’re facing the full book.

          • DiversityIsDeath

            Hate to be a wet blanket, but nothing much will happen to these mud skells. They can both look forward to long, illustrious criminal careers as they pass in and out of the joint, honing their vile craft with the passing years, getting bolder and more dangerous. They have much more pain and damage and cost to inflict on society yet.

          • They’re both legally adults, so I imagine the armed robbery charges will stick.

          • Lagerstrom

            Yep. They are not ‘youths’.

          • MBlanc46

            Black pretty much means saying your black.

      • Rhialto

        That could have been the muggers’ problem. Being different racially may have prevented them from coordinating the assault properly.
        In any case, the multiracial organization will reduce the penalties imposed on them.

        • Major

          LOL..yea…an eggplant trying to communicate with a kumquat.

    • me

      Just beautiful! Black AND blue.

      • Evette Coutier

        Black, dead, and covered in red would be better.

  • negrolocaust

    Ray has made numerous improvements this week in his physical therapy sessions,” one of Ray’s family members wrote yesterday on his CaringBridge page. “We are grateful and couldn’t be more proud of him.”

    Widstrand, a 26-year-old who worked as a master control operator for a
    public access channel in White Bear Lake before the beating, still uses a
    tracheotomy tube to breathe, and he hasn’t yet started speech therapy.
    But his family says his pre-injury personality is gradually reemerging.

    “During
    one of his sessions, Ray was able to write out a few words, which was
    pretty exciting to witness!” an update on Widstrand’s CaringBridge
    published Monday says. “Even Ray’s personality came out a little, when
    he give us the ‘are you kidding me’ look when our dad (Peter) joked
    about how he should now try to draw an elephant for everyone in the
    room. :)”

    Widstrand is now hospitalized in a long-term acute care
    facility. Despite his improvements, his family acknowledges he still
    has a long way to go.

    “What was taken for granted now requires concentration,” yesterday’s update says.

    Widstrand’s 27th birthday is Saturday. If you’d like to send along your well wishes, you can do so here.

    • me

      The only birthday present that would be appropriate would be the torturing to death of the ‘ham crazy’ gang.

  • Evette Coutier

    The victims should get medals of honor.

    • Major

      No…a tour of the KelTec plant and give free guns would be better….Oh…no guns on campus…gun free and all that ya know…but the two scumbags didn’t let the rules bother them…..that’s what the insane libs, loon and commies don’t get!

      • Evette Coutier

        KelTec? Forget that. Get them a nice new Sig or A Wilson Combat 1911.

        • Major

          Concealed Carry brother ( errr sister? )…very concealed…although in VA it’s open carry…cept on those precious college campii where it’s safe and gun free…BTW Zim used a KelTec P38..it worked pretty good…yes?

          • WV is open carry too, but I know of a lawyer involved in a case because he was arrested for it – his openly displayed weapon was seen as a threat by the counter workers at a fast food restaurant (KFC).

            Greatest part about it, he had to remove the ammunition from his gun after he was was arrested because the small town cops didn’t know how to do it.

            Think about this. Being arrested, and the police at some point hand you your offending item (handgun) back and ask you to unload it.

          • A Freespeechzone

            Washington State is an ‘open carry’ state as well–unfortunately, when people feel threatened when they see someone practicing open carry, which happens more often than not, police are called & the open carrier is arrested & sometimes prosecuted.

            Best to get a concealed permit; what is not seen, isn’t a problem in Washington State if you have a CCW

          • Major

            If the laws states OPEN carry…then the cops are violating the law. Listen…these stupid fools and clowns that are “afraid” of seeing a gun are not our responsibility. Their “fears” need to be addressed by the law and it’s their problem. A holstered gun carried legally by a law abiding citizen is never a threat….but a gun in your face wielded by a punk gangsta is something to fear. So long as that gun is carried legally…they can all go to hell.

            As long as citizens allow the cops to erode their rights…they’ll surely vanish.

          • A Freespeechzone

            I don’t disagree…

            I legally carry concealed…almost all the time.

          • Evette Coutier

            Yes, cops are violating the law. Too many are in the business of obedience training and not law enforcement.

          • evilsandmich

            As Michael Christopher Scott on these forums said at one point: don’t advertise. A gun buddy said as well to not have pro-gun stickers on the car, etc.

          • Even if open carry was totally legally non-problematic, and concealed was also legal, I’d do concealed over open every time. It keeps the element of surprise on your side.

          • Major

            I agree…but there’s times when it’s much more difficult to get to it too…when it’s “concealed”. Especially under shirts and stuff. cause you’re trying not to print.

          • Major

            A “lawyer” that doesn’t know the law? He should be ashamed and stripped of his license to practice. What a moron….but…it’s WV.

      • I think a trip to Belgium, with a tour of Fabrique National and free High-Powers, followed by brewery trips would be more in order.

  • me

    Kind of a microcosm of society, isn’t it?

  • bigone4u

    The day after MLK day in DC, two young blacks took to heart MLK’s famous words “I have a dream of a free iphone” and instead of a dream had their worst nightmare–WHITE BOYS FIGHTING BACK. Like MLK these blacks can write their “letter from a Charlottesville jail” and attain civil rights immortality. Or maybe like Jeantel, they can’t read or write, in which case some white libtard can write their letter for them, just as in MLK’s case.

    • MBlanc46

      Do we know that the intended victims were white?

  • jackryanvb

    I don’t think the perp gun was found. It’s not a bad idea to say your attackers had a gun, or something that looked like a gun.

    What weapons did the VU students use? They sure did so e solid damage.

    • Weapons? I’d guess that the one on the left was hit with fists the size of a supermarket rotisserie chicken.

      • Lagerstrom

        Some ‘good old-fashioned violence’ eh? Seems like it.

  • Oldcorporal

    So, does anyone know, for certain, honest Injun, were the victims White? I hope so, because it might be an encouragement to more White people to stop cringing and hiding, and start asserting ourselves again.

    • ncpride

      I’ve searched dozens of sites and blogs, but no one seems to know for sure. There are even questions as to whether or not the two victims were actually students, but rather a couple of locals. Maybe we’ll learn more later on…?

  • White Mom in WDC

    If you dish it, you better be able to take it

  • 94122

    “Police say they do not encourage victims to take matters into their own hands”
    I wonder how many victims of violent crime have died since I first heard that bit of useless “advice” from police PSAs back in the 70s. You’re already in a life-threatening situation. And as the Carr Brothers murder spree showed us, they’ll probably kill you anyway, compliant or not. I think any person of melanin-challenged persuasion that “goods” a pair of goons like these should take the “light fuse, get away” tack. Get lost, get safe, and don’t wait around for the local constabulary to turn up and start looking for ways to turn the case upside-down.

    I’m glad there’s no pictures of the victors (can’t bring myself to call them victims), all the better for them.

    • Strider73

      For the poetically inclined, the rule is “shoot, scoot and stay mute.”

  • Sam Harris: But are you assuming that the other person is armed? Steven Levine: I don’t care if he’s just got his finger under his shirt. Sam Harris: That is just… bizarre

    Not bizarre. In my state, and I’m sure in many others, certain serious violent crimes are legally carried out in such a way that the suspect does not literally have to have a deadly weapon on him to be prosecuted as if he did. For instance, first degree robbery is a robbery where you rob someone with an actual deadly weapon, or you have an item that looks like a deadly weapon but isn’t, or you say you have a deadly weapon (even if you don’t), or you behave in ways that leaves the reasonable person to believe that you actually do have a deadly weapon (gun pointed finger under the shirt).

    • Sick of it

      But this is changing, thanks to activists working for criminals. Zimmerman, for instance, never should have been brought to trial. The wounds on the back of his head alone proved everything that he said. We’ve just read about a man who was beaten in the head until he’s either going to die or will be mentally retarded for the rest of his life…but they decided to put Zimmerman on trial.

      • evilsandmich

        It remains to be seen if that trial was a shot across the bow of white self defense or if it was a Waterloo that the tyrants cannot muster to fight again (soon).

  • Robbie Cheney

    Waiting for the SPLC spin machine to crank up.

    “Young, innocent negro and latino child prodigies minding their own business were viciously set upon by rampaging, raging White RACISTS!” :()

    • jimj

      They were also probably attempting to turn their lives around and wanted to be aspiring rappers.

  • Rusty Shackelford

    On one website, this story received over 5,000 comments, the type that many here would agree with. Naturally, the comments section was eventually shut down.

  • Greg S

    Nobel Prize for keeping the Peace awarded to unknown whites

  • ShermanTMcCoy

    Dang, did he have that many to lose in the first place?

  • Frans

    Of course we taxpayers will have to pay the hospital bills for the pukes.

  • Pelagian

    Why would the News Monkeys even *think* there would be charges on the victims?? Did they not find GUNS on the beaten suspects? Its not just the “stories” of the students, its the physical evidence is it not? Good Lord!!!

  • reporter graff looks homo

  • BonusGift

    The Sherman TMcCoy comment made me laugh, and your comment hurt my insides. Thanks.

  • newscomments70

    The dam is breaking…first, force the black thugs off the street, next force the black thugs out of the White House and replace them with humans.

  • Roninf9

    It would be very interesting to find out how this event played out tactically. Were the victims trained in hand to hand fighting? There are ways to disarm a person armed with a pistol. Its actually pretty easy, if you know what you are doing and the one holding the gun does not.

    All civilized men should know to defend themselves, and others, with arms and without but they should be armed at all times.

    • MarcB1969

      I suspect a background in athletics and youthful aggression were what made these men beat down the robbers instead of cower in fear.

  • Spartacus

    I did. The filthy scum would stop at nothing to hurt Whites.

  • Irishgirl

    A veritable rainbow coalition.

  • John R

    OK. I have to ask this question: What does “YT” stand for?

    • IstvanIN

      Whitey

      • John R

        THANKS! So simple: YT, WHIT-EY! Now, getting through that, I will write some comments on these news stories. Oh, btw, the pics of the robbery suspects ARE on YouTube. I just copied, and pasted, the title of THIS article there, in the search bar, and got the story. Good for those students that fought back against those two! Well, peace, and thanks again!

  • MarcB1969

    Most comments on the TV station’s website gloss over the Hispanic contribution to the crime.

  • Major

    Remember…this is the problem they must address. We all must address.