Rubio: Obama Will ‘Basically Legalize’ 11 Million by Executive Order If Immigration Reform Fails

Jeff Poor, Daily Caller, August 13, 2013

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In an appearance on WFLA’s “The Morning Show with Preston Scott” in Tallahassee, Fla., Rubio explained that President Barack Obama will be tempted to enact his own immigration reform measures by executive order if Congress does not pass an immigration bill. An Obama executive order would legalize 11 million undocumented immigrants, he said.

“I have been saying now for over a year I believe that this president tempted, will be tempted, if nothing happens in Congress he will be tempted, to issue an executive order like he did for the DREAM Act kids a year ago, where he basically legalizes 11 million people by the sign of a pen,” Rubio said. “We won’t get an E-Verify, we won’t get any border security— but he’ll legalize them. So what I have tried to do is come up with as best as possible, given who controls the Senate, a way to start this conversation to at least address some of these issues because it only gets worse as times goes on.”

Scott pressed Rubio on why there isn’t a push to enforce existing law. {snip}

“The existing law does not have a universal E-Verify system or something like it—an employer verification system,” he said. “The existing law has no incentive in it for them to make sure they do the entry/exit tracking. The law requires an entry/exit tracking system, but they’ve never set it up because there is no pressure to do it. It’s not linked to anything the other side wants. That’s why making it as a trigger is so critical so that we can ensure it will happen.”

“At the end of the day, the existing law does not help us solve the problem that we have 11 million human beings living among us, some of whom have committed crimes but will be here the rest of their lives, most of whom have not,” he continued. “But the average age is in the mid-30s and unless we’re going to try to round up and deport 11 million people, something not even the most vociferous opponents of the bill proposed then we’re have to address this one way or another. But we can’t leave it, in my mind, the way it is, because a year from now we could find ourselves with all 11 million people here legally through an executive order from the president, but no E-Verify, no border security, no more border agents—none of the other reforms that we desperately need.”

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  • Puggg

    Shorter Marco: Give your kids all the cookies they want because you keep catching them with their hands in the cookie jar.

  • They’re worried Obama will just amnesty illegals by executive fiat?

    Let him. He should do that then go around the country bragging that he did.

    I’ll be laughing my tail off when the whole thing politically blows up in his face.

    “We won’t get E-Verify…”

    Well, just pass a simple piece of legislation mandating E-Verify, with nothing else.

    Remember, E-Verify is moot if millions of illegal aliens get work permits (which any “comprehensive immigration reform” would probably do), because the work permit means they would pass E-Verify.

    • David Ashton

      Impeachment?

      Please explain how that might work to this “Evillimey” in “Cowardly Britain” as some of your posters kindly call me.

    • E-verify, from what I can tell, is only used on White Americans.

      • kjh64

        E-verify is the law but it’s not enforced. E-verify was made mandatory under Reagan’s “one time amnesty” law. What a joke. E-verify was seldom enforced and neither was “one time amnesty”. Any provisions congress passes will not be enforced just like most of the past provisions haven’t been.

  • Extropico

    I would accuse Senator Rubio of being an insincere throttlebottom, but I don’t want to be scurrilous with respect to the incompetent, in general.

  • I’m getting the impression that our current Republican Party actually wants these illegal aliens to stay. What better path to a one dollar an hour minimum wage?

    Well, republicans, I had better start seeing some real action taken, NOT words, comments, or broken promises. You see, the problem is that you are too afraid to even try to deport 11,000,000 democrats. Right now, I’d settle for 1 pregnant illegal alien deported today. At least that’s something.

    Thanks, by the way, for 8 years of Madame President coming soon.

  • bigone4u

    Can’t round up and deport 11 million, eh Rubester? Well, round up and deport the first 100,000 and watch the other 10,900,000 high-tail it back toward the border. Especially, when the roundup occurs simultaneously with a cut-off of benefits to all illegals. Be honest, Rubester, you want them here because they’re your kind of folks. Right?

    • Ngati Pakeha

      Excellent. Spot on. Just one thought. How do we know it is ONLY 11 million. I get the feeling this story would have been no different if McCain or Romney were in the hot seat. The subsequent election of Hilary or Rubio could be a final nail for the republic.

      • Romulus

        This is a repetitive narrative here on amren, in the hope more will contact their representatives for a call to action. The number of illegals is much, much higher. The 11 mil. Number has been thrown around for at least a decade. I’ve never been there myself, but I hear New Zealand is quite beautiful. I’ve discovered the meaning that eluded me yesterday. We have a parallel here as well. It entails a tattoo in Arabic of the word infidel. Common amongst our veterans.

        • kjh64

          “The 11 mil. Number has been thrown around for at least a decade. ”
          No, it has been thrown around since the mid-70’s actually. There was a 1976 article talking about the ” estimated 11 million illegals” in the US.

          • Ngati Pakeha

            Any idea how many there really are? Just a rough guesstimate.

          • ShermanTMcCoy

            30-40 mil.

          • Ngati Pakeha

            So it would be a sizeable nation in its own right. That is just marvellous. No wonder people are getting out.

          • kjh64

            I’ve heard estimates from various sources ranging from 30-50 million. I’d guess around 35-40 million myself. I KNOW it’s not 11 million however. There are likely 11 million illegals in California alone.

          • Ngati Pakeha

            Thanks for that. I remember going to Anaheim (yeah Disneyland) as a kid in the late 70s. My point is I was last there in 2009 and I really couldn’t believe I was in the same place. Your figure for CA is probably right in the money. It reminds me of an obese person who is eating himself to death. I know it is stuff you already know but once again thanks for the insight.

          • Romulus

            Incredible. Thanks for sharing. I know of the first wave that brought us Ricky Ricardo, but was unaware of the ’76 article. Can the article still be found in some corner of the internet?

          • kjh64

            You know, it likely could be but I can’t remember which site I saw it on. I remember seeing an article on the net that explained the 11 million number as being touted in 1976 and it showed an old, yellowed news article dated 1976 and in the article sure enough, it talked about the estimated 11 million illegals in this country.

        • Ngati Pakeha

          Thanks Romulus. Yeah it is a nice place but it, like all European based nations, is getting worse by the day. What’s happening to the US and UK is happening here and Australia. The so called elite want cheap labour and my god they are getting it. Our “Mexicans” are from East Asia and your bête noir, India. I know a lot about the UK as most of my neighbors are newly arrived from Britain. I use to hate the immigrants but I no longer dislike them as much as their “enablers”. Why do they always come to our countries? Of course we know why.

          • Romulus

            Im so very sorry,my friend. I can’t imagine what will become of your home. I was reading today of the atrocities being committed against all of the UK. I knew Australia had it bad, but not new Zealand. I would love to see HOBBITON someday. My niece used to play that makes and does song all the time. I was unaware that the girl was Asian. I made a move from an earlier position to a different govt agency over an argument with an African fool who told me that she was Irish. On St. paddys day of this year. I’ve always been acutely aware of racial differences since I was very young.

          • Ngati Pakeha

            That’s funny – a black Irish Collen. I saw a Chinese one once. I couldn’t stop laughing when I heard her talk. Some things are just not right.

          • Romulus

            It could’ve turned ugly very quickly. I was livid with rage at her inherent stupidity. I can no more be Chinese even if I was born there. It took every ounce of self control not to slap her silly. I went on to explain to the dummy why she wasn’t irish, despite having a white last name, including Anthropologically,genetically ,historically,culturally. She finally stopped dying her hair, but I just couldn’t deal with the aggravation anymore.

          • ShermanTMcCoy

            I had a German friend who learned to speak English while in Scotland. Now HE had an interesting accent! We used to call him “Angus McKraut.” Wonderful guy, shared his birthday with Robert Burns.

          • Ngati Pakeha

            Now that would be genuinely funny as opposed to downright ludicrous. Some groups, and you know what I mean by this, make the cross-cultural transfer much easier.

            Brüderlich mit herz and hand!

    • Sick of it

      We could remove every single one of them by force. The reality is that the government does not want to enforce our laws or protect American sovereignty. The government actively stands in the way of the people enforcing our laws as well (I’ll never forget the garbage that the minutemen had to go through and now local law enforcement). They are traitors and deserve to be punished as such.

      • So CAL Snowman

        It’s funny, the liberals are always squealing about how much MONEY these illegal alien invaders will contribute in taxes once they are legalized. Well why doesn’t the US government confiscate that money and use it to buy them ONE WAY bus tickets back home? It seems to me that the illegals have enough of their own money to finance their own deportations.

        • Sick of it

          Money sent back home is a rather large part of the modern Mexican economy. So yeah, they could easily afford bus tickets back.

    • More like 32,900,000.

    • kjh64

      No, they can’t round up illegals but the government can photograph EVERY piece of mail every citizen gets.

      • Luca

        And the IRS can track every penny of 130 million American’s income.

  • MerlinV

    Obama’s plan:

  • MerlinV

    Rubio’s plan:

    • MerlinV

      Obama’s plan:

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        U.S. Citizens’ Plan:

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      Rubio’s Plan

  • Guest

    Obama’s plan:

  • Luca

    First plug the hole in the bottom of the ship so no more water enters. Then, start bailing with a bucket while we look around for a pump. Eventually, we can right the ship.

    I blame GW Bush. When enacting the Patriot Act he could have easily passed reforms on southern border security, overstayed visas, stricter control on drivers licenses and expelling illegals, starting with middle easterners. The political climate in the country after 9/11 would have allowed it.

    What we have now are politicians who don’t enforce laws, proposing more laws for people who ignore laws. What could possibly go wrong?

    Simpson-Mazzoli required employers to check immigration status and made it illegal to knowingly hire illegals. It was also sold as a “one-time” fix and a final solution.

    This nothing more than Leftists trying to seal the deal by importing more low IQ Democratic voters.

    • Major

      Stop blaming Bush…the magic Negro has had 5 years to modify the existing law…he’s screwed up everything else so why not this? Cause he wants us overwhelmed with dependent, violent, illiterates. In addition to the 12% we already are burdened with.

      • Luca

        Clinton started the fire, Bush watched it burn and Obama is pouring gas on it.

        Bush had the golden opportunity and justification to do something significant about it in the name of national/border security. He shares in the blame.

      • Erasmus

        Let’s not forget that on 9/10/2001 Bush publicly proposed a program that would have amnestied the millions of Mexicans then here illegally. The next day The Twin Towers fell, and the rest, as they say, is history.

        I voted for Bush twice, but just the sight and sound of the man now makes me want to vomit. If you want to look who among the republicans has been among the biggest back-stabbers to the American middle class, in the top ten is George W. Bush. Until one of his children or grandchildren is murdered or run over by a drunk-driving illegal alien or forced to wait in line at the ER for emergency treatment, he will continue to remain ignorant of the harm he’s unleashed upon his fellow countrymen.

        More Americans have been murdered and killed by drunk driving illegal aliens in the last 12 years than died on 9/11. So, although Bush’s supporters can rightfully claim that he kept us safe from another terrorist attack, with his deliberate irresponsibility and disregard for securing the border, he allowed a greater wave of murder and destruction to be released upon the country.

        When Jeb Bush, George Bush, John McCain, Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan are the best the GOP now has to offer, you know you’re screwed.

        • Until one of his children or grandchildren is murdered or run over by a drunk-driving illegal alien or forced to wait in line at the ER for emergency treatment, he will continue to remain ignorant of the harm he’s unleashed upon his fellow countrymen.

          I don’t think even that would do it. In the case of the Bushes, it’s because the EL CHEAPO labor lobby has bought them off. In the case of those who are open borders for some ideological cult, it’s because they’re ideological cultists, and that’s more important to them for anything. Hell, those types would blame a drunkard Hispanic illegal killing their children on the borders not being wide open enough.

  • Rick Brooks

    I’d give all the illegals two months to leave the country or face felony charges and possible imprisonment. And stop giving citizenship to the progeny of illegals and temp. visitors. That’s a big reason why white births are in the minority now.

  • RisingReich

    A real ‘congressman’ would be threatening impeachment if a President signs such an order.
    However, we all know what his real motivation is.
    This guy himself ought to be brought up on charges.
    Pedal to the metal – right off the reservation cliff.

    • Puggg

      If he tries it, it’s only because Congress didn’t impeach him after DACA. Their not doing so was an indication to him that he could get away with “temporary” amnesty by fiat. Dogs have to be housebroken by force, Presidents have to be constitutionbroken by other kinds of force.

      • Ngati Pakeha

        Gelding?

        • Puggg

          Per Jesse Jackson’s wishes?

      • RisingReich

        Not a bad analogy, Puggg.

  • Sick of it

    He seems to overlook the fact that we know about 11 million+ illegals while proclaiming that there’s no way we can do anything about it without e-verify, etc. If we already know these people are here, why don’t we just enforce our laws and remove them?

    • Bossman

      Because it can’t be done. Being here without proper documentation or permission is a misdemeanor.

  • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

    Among conservatives, Rubio’s betrayal has transformed him from tea-party darling to despised figure. So now we see him rationalizing But he is finished as a national candidate. He will still be a go-to GOP spokesman for neocon Fox News — just as is Lindsey Grahamnesty and John McAmnesty. So his future is not entirely bleak.

    • Major

      Those last two should be arrested and fitted with straight jackets…..dropped into the AZ desert without food or water to pay for their treason and treachery against America and Arizona. We should really send McPain packing back to Hanoi along with Jane.

  • Spartacus

    “…and unless we’re going to try to round up and deport 11 million people,
    something not even the most vociferous opponents of the bill proposed
    then we’re have to address this one way or another.”

    ———————————————————————————————————————

    Here’s a simple solution – if a company is found having employees that are illegals, fine them 100.000$ per beaner . Problem solved.

    • Major

      Eisenhower, Kennedy and Truman had no problems with rounding up these dirt bags. Send them back…we already have 35 million mostly dirt bags with their hands out for the last 50 years. Why should we be obliged to solve Mexico’s problems or south americas? Hell…on Mexico’s southern border they’re shot on site. Or worse yet….jailed then deported.

      • Bossman

        Mexico does not shoot border crossers on site at their southern border. That is not true at all.

        • Greg Thomas

          If mexico gave a damn about “human rights,” we wouldn’t have 30 million of their illegal invaders squatting in our country.

    • bigone4u

      Fun little thought experiment there Spartacus. I love it. Don’t you suspect as I do that the government itself has illegals as employees. Let the bureaucrats who hire illegals get fired. By the way, in the US style, your number would be written as $100,000.

  • storibund

    Rubio: “I bent over – now it’s America’s turn!”

  • sbuffalonative

    “We won’t get an E-Verify, we won’t get any border security”

    We’re not getting either in the current bill.

    Border security is supposed to come later and E-Verify remains voluntary for most businesses.

  • kjh64

    Oh stop with the 11 million already, it’s about 40 million.

  • IKantunderstand

    Our government HATES us. That includes both parties. Perhaps it is time to revisit: “When in the course of human events…””

    • MBlanc46

      I don’t know that they hate us. They just don’t care about us. We know longer fit into the plans of the elites. We’re surplus to requirements. They now have billions of Chinese and Indians and hundreds of millions of Latin Americans. Natural-born Americans are no longer needed.

  • kjh64

    We don’t need to deport to make most illegals go home. We can…
    -seal the border with a double fence and put the national guard on it and do it first.
    -get rid of birthright citizenship
    -deport all illegals in our jails
    -enforce e-verify for all jobs and welfare benefits
    -get rid of sanctuary cities
    -enforce our laws that state foreign nationals must carry their ID cards showing legal residence
    -allow police who pull a foreigner over or stop a foreigner for an infraction to check their ID card, no legal residence, they are deported
    -keep track of all foreigners who are here on visas to make sure that when their visas are up, they leave. If not, they are deported
    -allow landlords to check legal status of foreigners, after all they can check criminal backgrounds and credit of Americans
    -allow schools to check legal residency of foreign nationals before their kids are enrolled.
    Do this and 95% of illegals will deport themselves and the rest will stop coming.

    • mobilebay

      kjh64 – How did you get into my dream?

    • Bossman

      How is that different from a police state? The USA fought wars with countries that had such policies such as Nazi Germany.

  • mobilebay

    No legalization, no amnesty, no citizenship, no illegals, no nothing – send them all packing!

  • Spartacus

    Fine companies who hire illegals 100.000$ per… illegal (wanted to use another word, but Amren would’ve deleted my post) . That would solve the problem in a few months .

    • MBlanc46

      Not fines. For big corporations, fines are just a cost of doing business. Serious prison time for the top execs and board members. Not just the low-level human resources schmoes who actually sign the hiring papers, but the presidents, CFOs, VPs, and members of the corporate board.who make the real decisions.

  • HJ11

    Rubio is scum. Spit, spit, spit.

  • Evette Coutier

    Nancy Pelosi is now trying to make the entire state of California an amnesty zone for illegals. I say it’s the best solution to immigration. Let All the illegals move there. Let them quicken the death of the democratic monopoly that we call California. Let the rest of the nation learn by their mistake. Then they will right there next to Tijuana ready to be deported when America wakes up. To bad Detroit and Chicago don’t Mexico boarder Mexico It’d be good to do the same with their residences.

  • WR_the_realist

    The only legitimate use of an executive order is to implement a law already passed by congress. When is congress going to grow some stones and start impeaching presidents who create new laws by executive order? This has gotten completely out of hand.

  • John Smith

    Emperor Obama will ensure that Hispanic cartels are permanently established in the U.S. as in Mexico by royal decree, really Rubio?

  • Texan357

    Obama will retain the EO ability regardless of what you do, Rube. It doesn’t matter what you do; he’s going to do what he wants to do. You think you can mollify this creature by bending over? Pathetic RINO. We would have been better off with Charlie Crist.

  • serious123

    The President does not have the power through an Executive Order to override the Constitution or alter any Federal Law. It is absolutely stunning that a Senator would make such a foolish statement. This is truly a dangerous man.

    • Bossman

      And what part of the Constitution is that? The Constitution is completely silent on the question of immigration.

      • serious123

        You are correct. However we have immigration laws that set out certain standards and requirements for citizenship.

      • Greg Thomas

        Apparently, our laws against illegal invaders are “silent” as well.

  • Rubio is a joke and a bad one at that

    FLASHBACK: Marco Rubio, 2009

    “I am strongly against amnesty. The most important thing we need to do is enforce our existing laws. We have existing immigration laws that are not being adequately enforced. Nothing will make it harder to enforce the existing laws, if you reward people who broke them. It demoralizes people who are going through the legal process, its a very clear signal of why go through the legal process, if you can accomplish the same thing if you go through the illegal process. And number two, if demoralizes the people enforcing the laws. I am not, and I will never support any effort to grant blanket legalization/amnesty to folks who have entered, stayed in this country illegally.”

  • Ngati Pakeha

    I agree with you on all counts. The fact we don’t have a contiguous border has not prevented a real swamping of immigrants. I distinguish between the skilled, mainly European, and the “others”. The problem is that our government seems to be like all the other western democracies. By that I mean they are inherently liberal and seem to think we all need more people. All this does in my opinion is drive down wages and detract from the quality of life we enjoyed. And the real kicker is the fact that our current government is our version of the GOP, or British Conservative Party. It seems the 1% really have their hooks in.