Rough Sleepers in London ‘Turning Streets Into a Sewer’

Conor Shelis and Mark Blunden, London Evening Standard, June 21, 2013

Residents today called on the police and council chiefs to do more to rid their streets of Roma gypsy rough sleepers who they claim have turned parts of Marylebone into an “open sewer”.

Householders and businesses say they face mess and aggression every day, and one employee reportedly quit her job because of the stress.

Many workers have a grim morning ritual of throwing bleach and cleaning fluid on to the pavement around Cato Street to clean up human waste.

Some businesses claim they are losing money as clients are put off the area.

Nina Dunbar Johnson, director of Wizard Publicity, said: “My office manager was so fed up with it that she left. Every day we have to throw Jeyes fluid and bleach outside.

“We’re a beauty PR company, we’re supposed to smell of good things.”

Residents say up to 20 people, including women and children, arrive after midnight and sleep through to 8am when council workers move them on. Becky Pritchard, 28, said: “I find it really intimidating especially when I come home late at night.” One estate agent said the group had caused two flats to be taken off the market.

Michael Patrick, 40, said: “My sister-in-law is Romanian and she says the way that they are treated there is disgusting. However, this is not where they should be living.”

Westminster council has spent about £100,000 on the problem, even buying tickets home for some of the Roma. It has also issued about a dozen Asbos, banning offenders from the area.

Nickie Aiken,  Westminster’s cabinet member for children, young people and community protection, said: “As a local authority we’re trying to do everything within our power to rid the streets of this menace.” Police say they attend every call and move on the rough sleepers for causing an obstruction, but their powers are limited.

Figures reveal the number of homeless people on London streets has more than doubled since Boris Johnson became Mayor.

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  • Spartacus

    “Michael Patrick, 40, said: “My sister-in-law is Romanian and she says
    the way that they are treated there is disgusting. However, this is not
    where they should be living.”

    There is no way that woman is Romanian. I’m Romanian, and I’ve never met a single other Romanian in my life that has any kind of empathy with these filthy vermin. Here in Romania, these scum are responsible for tons of crime(not so much violent crime, as theft, begging, and other annoying things) and nobody likes them at all. Every Romanian parent teaches their child from an early age to stay away from gypsies, tells them which neighborhoods are inhabited by gypsies and tells them very clearly that they are to be avoided at all cost.

    Here, if gypsies move in the middle of a street and start living there, the police come within 20 minutes and tell them to move.If they refuse, they usually get beaten and sometimes thrown in jail for the night.

    • I am not an expert on these matters, but I do feel sorry for the true Romanians when they get lumped in with a specific type of immigrant from “Romania”, as in the landmass. The press and the general public often use the wrong labels and associations from what I can see.

      Perhaps it is a bit like how the press here say “British gang in gun fight and assassination in France” or “British woman caught smuggling drugs in Bali” or whatever else, when they are certainly not British in the real sense of the word, and may be of African or Pakistani origin, even if they are third-generation and born here.

      The “Roma” situation in Britain is getting to be a real nightmare, especially in London. There have been a few TV documentaries on it, even the ultra-biased BBC has done some for their Panorama programme. Begging, stealing, prostitution, defecating in the street and in phone boxes as people walk past. It’s terrible.

      • Erasmus

        This is the ugly face of too much tolerance. Everything except not allowing deviant behavior to go uncriticized is tolerated. A few decades ago anyone caught defecating in the middle of the street or in a phone box would have been throttled by the passers by.
        Our grandparents knew not to stand for garbage like this.

        • I think you’re right. Perhaps things have just got so out of control now and so demographically swamped that there is far too great a sense of “pissing in the wind”, if you can pardon the expression.

          The police might rock up, have a word (via an interpreter no doubt), move them on…..then they would either just come back the next day, or go and do it somewhere else.

          There is a sense of futility in everything in this country.

          The whole apparatus seems stacked against getting anything done or turning a tide. Organisations are incompetent, unwilling, or over stretched. Courts rule in favour of these people. The government doesn’t and often cannot send them back. On and on it goes.

          People used to mock me when I suggested we would turn into a third world country – but to me, it is all these small matters which add up to that critical whole where nothing works, nothing can be solved, where you get too many problems and issues to deal with, so that you cannot get anything done because to do one thing you have to do multiple other things first.

          It is a death by a thousand cuts, to me.

          • jane johnson

            You are so right. I’m great in a crisis, but the seemingly endless quality of life issues and the unwillingness or inability of public employees to correct them is indeed like slow torture. Some days I wake up angry, and stay that way until I’m back home, and know that I won’t have to deal with anyone’s crap for the rest of the night. What a way to live.

          • Sick of it

            We’re getting this way in America as well.

          • dukem1

            Good God…In America we promote it.

      • David Ashton

        The distinction between Romanians and “Roma” is important.
        When in hospital in Norfolk two years ago my kindest and most efficient nurse was a young white Romanian woman, whereas when my pocket was picked in Norfolk some time previously the culprits were Gypsies on a seaside stealing spree.

        • Spartacus

          You’re saying “white Romanian” as if there’s any other kind 🙂

          And stop calling them Roma(technically spelled “Rroma”), that’s just an artificial name, that was adopted not by gypsies themselves(most of them refer to themselves as gypsies) but by the first Romanian government after the revolution, which was lead by Petre Roman, who is a jew, son of one of the Soviet Kommisars(Walter Neulander) that took over in Romania after WWII and killed or deported an estimated 2 million Romanians.

          It’s also interesting to notice that the first president of Romania, Ion Iliescu was also married to a jewish woman. And this in a country that , at the time, had 23 million people, of whom less than 10.000 declared themselves as jews…

          • The__Bobster

            “Gypsy” is an artificial name, too, as people once thought they were from Egypt. And these Indian losers never tried to correct the error.

          • IstvanIN

            Shows what a good for nothing ally the US is. King Mahai of Romania fought on the side of the allies, gave his people democracy after the war, and when the Soviets invaded, we threw him under the bus and his people under the bus.

          • Spartacus

            *King Mihai

            Yeah, and that wasn’t really nice of you guys… Still, the past is dead, we must look at the future now, while we still have a shot at one.

          • IstvanIN

            oooops about the spelling. PS, wasn’t me, I wasn’t born yet. And Churchill was in on the deal. Hey, the US threw all of Eastern Europe under the bus. I had a few relatives who managed to escape after the war. The US, it seems, never has a problem with sending whites to their doom. Whether it is sending our soldiers to fight wars that are none of our business or selling out whites like the Rhodesians and Afrikaners, the US is not our friend. Even here.

          • Sick of it

            Now they want to send our women out on the front lines. How dare we consider even the remote possibility of survival, apparently.

          • David Ashton

            Thank you for the information about “Rroma”. What about “Sinti”?
            I agree that the adjective “white” was redundant but only added here to make it clear to AmRen race-fussers that she was completely European, whereas the Gypsies were largely of Indian or mixed origin, so I understand.

          • Spartacus

            Sinti are a sub-group of gypsies, who live mainly in Central Europe,, as opposed to the rest of the gypsies who historically lived in either the east or the south. They’re more settled, and think they’re different from the rest of gypsies, claiming that they were originally a higher “caste” that migrated from the Sindhi region of India. The vast majority of Sinti have German names , usually misspelled, like the singer Häns’che Weis.

          • BonusGift

            Congratulation on being able to get that truth out there; as I am surprised the moderator let that one go without penalty.

          • Spartacus

            Why would the mods have a problem with that post ?

          • BonusGift

            I’ve had less than that deleted.

      • Spartacus

        Please stop calling them Roma – See my reply to David Ashton.

        • OlderWoman

          Aren’t they called Romany?

      • borogirl54

        What is sad is that the Roma will use their children to beg or to steal. I saw a BBC documentary that showed that the money that they get from begging and stealing goes to build mansions in Romania for the top gypsies.

      • Xerxes22

        I’ll bet these Roma don’t camp out in the non-White areas of London.

    • pcmustgo

      Hungarians hate them too

      • BonusGift

        Slovaks do as well; and anyone for that matter for whom the truth matters.

    • sbuffalonative

      It’s a shame that name ‘Romanian’ has been corrupted by criminal gypsies.

      • Fredrik_H

        To be fair, it’s actually the PC powers-that-be that has done that, preferring to call them romanian – rather than Roma or Gypsy.

    • dukem1

      “Beaten and then thrown in jail”…I say forget about the jail and just keep beating them until they get the message.

  • bigone4u

    Illegals in the US do pretty much the same thing. Worldwide, Western society is devolving due to an influx of low IQ, no morals third worlders convinced WE owe THEM our country. Until somebody grows a pair this problem will grow worse.

    • The__Bobster

      Parasites don’t care if the host dies. They’ll just crawl off the dead body and find a new host.

      • BonusGift

        Bingo; at least the parasites we are infested with don’t even seem to give it a second thought.

  • Biff_Maliboo

    I love the smell of diversity in the morning…

  • The__Bobster

    Whatever happened to loitering laws? The Bobbies should just get out their nightsticks and rattle a few noggins.

    • OlderWoman

      I thought the Bobbies were enemies of indigenous Brits since Common Purpose came into power.

    • David Ashton

      “Sensitive” policing. E.g. arresting people for politically incorrecr statements and making public lavatories free from homoPHOBES.

  • NM156

    Where do they go during the winter? London’s climate is mild compared to cities in the Northern US and on the continent, but it still won’t support outdoor living. Do they live in boxes on the street during the winter?

    • Spartacus

      They probably piss on each other to keep warm 🙂

    • shmo123

      London’s climate is only mild in the sense that it doesn’t snow there much in the winter. But it’s still gets very cold, and it’s that damp cold that chills you to the bone. That’s why so many old people get arthritis there.

  • IstvanIN

    Bring the Royal Army home and let them clean up the home island. Prince Harry looks like the kind of fellow who would get a kick out of booting out the darkies, if the politicians let him.

    • Sick of it

      If he uses the army at home, it will be against the Britons.

    • dukem1

      I have a long opinion on this which I am too lazy to post…
      Short version…King Harry…
      A king is something these invaders understand.
      And fear.

    • ZeitTrash

      Prince Harry has become a fine man but if you think he doesn’t serve the masters of political correctness with vigor then you are kidding yourself. No white figure of authority in the West has the guts or desire to defend white community. Not one.

      “Sick of it” is right. The only “enemy” the UK (or the US) are going to use their armed forces against domestically is whites and white constitutionalists or nationalists.

      • David Ashton

        We heave a sigh of relief that he fancies blondes.

    • watling

      I doubt it. Harry loves Africans. See:

      • David Ashton

        Not “loves”. Have you seen his girl friends?

  • ZeitTrash

    It’s worse in San Francisco. I’m serious. For decades, street people have been urinating and defecating on the streets of San Fran and on themselves before wandering around screaming at and assaulting people.

    When you’re walking around SF as a tourist, that big load you see on the sidewalk is not from a dog. Again, I’m completely serious.

    • itdoesnotmatter

      True, that, Zeit.
      I take BART to Davies and/or the Opera House when I’ve tickets to a performance. The walk from BART’s underground station
      up Grove is a sight to see, noxious to smell. Settling for the night
      into doorways and on the streets, filthy, homeless bums,
      and their miasmic body efflux.
      Even the underground station corridor from train to the street reeks with the stench of sour urine.
      S.F. used to be so beautiful.

    • watling

      The worst poverty I saw on my US visit was in San Francisco just 3 weeks before the 1989 earthquake. One enterprising African-American chappie set up shop by the tram ticketing machine (a real tourist trap). He would charge people to put their money in the machine for them. They could easily have done it themselves but he wouldn’t let them. A parasite, no more no less. Your ancestors should have picked their own cotton.

      • ZeitTrash

        I actually remember that guy. He was one of many of those types infesting the Financial District and Union Square areas as well as other locations. I think other dirtballs tried to pull the same sort of goofy scam.

        I especially remember one particular tall, bearded (of course), incredibly filthy gent I used to see on Market Street. His trousers were torn into shreds – including around his crotch – and what was left of them was completely slicked down with urine and feces. His shirt and coat were blackened with filth also as was most of his exposed skin. He was usually agitated and angry and looking ready to stomp someone.

        I usually avoided looking at him and others like him but I remember walking down the street one day and hearing a huffing-grunting sound and involuntarily glanced over to see this same guy in all his glory with a contorted, angry, deranged face blowing big globs of snot out of his nose which dangled and twitched as he jerked his head around and shouted incoherently. Lovely. Good times!

        Sorry to pass that along but that memory is burned into my brain. I always think of that guy when I think about the many deranged homeless people on the streets of San Francisco, the leftist utopia.

        I remember going to San Fran with my parents as a very young kid in the ’60’s and later in the ’70’s. It was a much more civilized, far, far cleaner place back then. The rot set in with the massive amount of drugs and consequent dereliction set off by the completely fake, phony, hyped “Summer of Love.”

        It was a brief summer of silliness turned decades of incredibly destructive drug use that created huge numbers of shattered human beings who thought they should live out their pathologies in San Francisco. Many of those filth-encrusted, mentally destroyed disasters wandering the streets of SF today are direct descendants of the bogus “Summer of Love.”

  • KenelmDigby

    Because of the EU, Britain has absolutely no legal controls of its borders whatsoever.
    A Gypsy from Romania, with no roots in Britain at all, who cannot even speak the language, has exactly the same ‘rights’ and privileges to settle and dwell in the UK as a 100th generation Yorkshireman has, for example.

    • itdoesnotmatter

      I thought the Brits kicked the Gypsies and their filthy caravans out????
      Or was that the French?

  • watling

    You’re right. When it comes to their national interests the French are more assertive than the British. The EUSSR politburo got upset, of course, but did the French care? Did they hell! I’m sure the Italians have given the gippos short shrift on occasion too.

  • watling

    The insanity of our so-called government knows no bounds. With 2.5 million here unemployed (plus a few million more not in the official stats) why the hell are we willing to import a load more low-skilled Eastern European immigrants having mostly poor English and low wage expectations?

    I’m convinced that 10 or so years ago I entered a parallel universe where insanity is seen as a positive attribute for a politician. How do I get back to the normal universe?