Why Lindsey Graham’s Support for Immigration Reform Isn’t Popular in South Carolina

Beth Reinhard, Yahoo! News, May 2, 2013

Avery and Susan Burns don’t like the immigration-reform bill in the U.S. Senate one bit. “People come here illegally, and now we’re giving them the red carpet,” grumbled Avery, a 71-year-old doctor, climbing the steps of the public library on a recent morning.

His disgust is making him reconsider his support for home-state Sen. Lindsey Graham, the only Republican sponsor of the bill who is up for reelection in 2014. Yet Susan said she’d still vote for Graham because he’s a “strong Republican,” recalling his leadership during former President Clinton’s impeachment.

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Immigration reform is not popular in this heavily conservative state, which followed Arizona’s lead and passed a tough crackdown on illegal immigrants two years ago. An anti-immigration group, Numbers USA, began airing a radio ad in February that demands, “Who elected Graham to demand amnesty and welfare for millions of illegal aliens?” Since then, his approval rating among Republicans and Republican-leaning independents has dropped from 72 percent to 58 percent, according to the Winthrop Poll. A pro-reform group that put up a statewide television spot to give Graham political cover doesn’t even mention immigration, suggesting that even the bill’s advocates see it as a tough issue to explain.

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Graham isn’t taking anything for granted. He raised more than $1.1 million in the past three months, leaving him with nearly $5.4 million in the bank. The only Senate incumbent with more money is Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. Mega-donor Sheldon Adelson hosted a fundraiser for Graham on Tuesday in Las Vegas. Challenges may come from state Sen. Lee Bright or Nancy Mace, the first woman to graduate from the Citadel, but neither has made a bid against the sitting senator official.

“You can’t beat somebody with nobody,” noted Carol Fowler, former chairwoman of the South Carolina Democratic Party. “Even if someone got in the race today and started raising money, they wouldn’t catch up for another 10 years.”

Graham has weathered blowback from anti-immigrant and other conservative groups before. When he championed a similar proposal during President Bush’s second term to allow illegal immigrants to earn citizenship, talk-show host Rush Limbaugh mocked him as “Lindsey Grahamnesty.” A Republican challenger, Buddy Witherspoon, ran an ad featuring photos of people crossing the border and a narrator proclaiming, “Gracias, Lindsey Graham!”  Graham trounced him in the 2008 primary. {snip}

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{snip} Graham is also receiving some political cover from Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, one of the most popular Republicans in the country, who is leading the reform campaign in the media. “Sen. Rubio is so well regarded and so convincing on television, I think that will mitigate the fallout,” said Karen Floyd, former chairwoman of the South Carolina Republican Party. Evangelicals, who made up 40 percent of the South Carolina vote when Graham was reelected in 2008, are increasingly speaking in favor of allowing illegal immigrants to work and live in the U.S. without fear of deportation.

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  • His disgust is making him reconsider his support for home-state
    Sen. Lindsey Graham, the only Republican sponsor of the bill who is up
    for reelection in 2014. Yet Susan said she’d still vote for Graham
    because he’s a “strong Republican,” recalling his leadership during
    former President Clinton’s impeachment.

    There’s your problem right there. They know the bill he’s heavily pushing for is bad, but they’ll still vote for him anyway because of some nebulous quality he supposedly displayed over something that happened FIFTEEN YEARS AGO, and something that didn’t quite turn out in Graham’s favor, and an issue far less important than the demographic constitution of their own country.

    (Lindsay Graham’s performance as a House Manager in the impeachment trial of Clinton in the Senate was actually lame and lackluster.)

    • mike

      Dead on. Voting for Republicans just because they are Republicans is the worst thing we can do. It merely insures they continue to NOT represent their constituents.

      • The problem with this married couple described in this article is that they are on the proper side of the immigration issue generally, but they don’t grok the gravity of it. To them, the issue is as superfluous on whose name gets planted on a new bridge. If they want the bridge to be named after Jane Jones but it’s really named after John Smith, no big deal. All that matters to them is that Lindsay Graham is YAY RED TEAM, and he tried to do something to the President that was President two Presidents ago.

        Now I know that just getting people on the right side of the immigration issue won’t be enough, we also have to make them realize how important the issue is and that it’s way more important than whether top marginal tax rates are 35% or 36%.

    • Bobby

      STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES.

    • evilsandmich

      And who are the Democrats going to run against him? Maybe another black dude who is runnning for office from behind bars? It would be refreshing if they’d run a true populist who believed in ‘Americans First’, but the party apparatchiks would never stand for that.

      • It’s South Carolina, ergo almost all Democrats are black. A white Democrat in the Deep South is just about as rare as a tooth on a hen these days. About the only place you’ll find white populist non-libkook Democrats is outside the South. For instance, my preferred candidate in the special election in Massachusetts to replace John Kerry was the Democrat that Ed Mahhhhkey beat, an ironworker named Lynch who is the remnant of the old Boston South End white working class that voted George Wallace, Dapper O’Neil and protested deseg.

  • The__Bobster

    Mega-donor Sheldon Adelson hosted a fundraiser for Graham on Tuesday in Las Vegas.
    _________

    Goober Grahamnesty is bought and paid for by this crazy, open-borders Zionist.

    • That he is. But there’s only so much you can blame the Sheldon Adelsons of the world, when our own people who are with us on this very issue won’t turn out the known race traitor when given a perfectly legitimate, easy and clean opportunity to do so and given a credible alternative candidate.

      Our own people more worried about other piddly long-time-ago issues and “Yay Red Team” partisan idiocy will be the death of us.

      • Smitty

        Credible alternative candidates? Aren’t they also in the pockets of the Sheldon Adelsons of the world?

    • sbuffalonative

      Notice the fund raiser was in Las Vegas and not South Carolina.

  • Ralph

    Graham is a weak seed. His kind will dig the graves of other Whites.

    • MikeS

      As well as his own, when it is time.

    • Epiminondas

      He’s a closet fairy. Probably being blackmailed by some Jew into voting for certain things important to them. You can pretty well watch the results.

    • me

      Graham is mentally ill. Our politicians should be forced to take a mental health evaluation before they can hold office. DC would be emptied overnight….

  • AugustusAlexander

    I used to spend most my summers in South Carolina growing up from 12-18 years old and Graham seems to not even be on the same planet as most white South Carolinians …very good and proud southern people.

    • Epiminondas

      Get rid of him. He’s poison.

    • Paleoconn

      Salt of the earth, most of the people I met from SC. Graham is a race traitor. But he is loyal to Israel as his grilling of Hagel attests.

  • MikeS

    “But he’s pushing it anyway”
    That’s because it’s not about what the people want.

    • sbuffalonative

      But why does he keep getting re-elected if he continually dismisses the will of his own constituents?

      • MikeS

        Your question assumes that the political process in the US operates as originally intended and is free from high-level corruption and anti-American influence. The manipulators who remain hidden and just out of sight above the stage have become quite ambitious as well as ambidextrous over time. However, it will be their arrogance and over confidence that will ultimately expose them for what they are. I don’t know if this will break their grip on the White World, but it will cause some Whites to wake from their anti-American propaganda induced slumber.

        I should have phrased my initial comment as follows: That’s because it’s not about what the people want it’s about what the special interest groups want.

        In the mind of the manipulators the idea of one-man-one-vote, is an antiquated notion that is not compatible with their version of reality.

      • The power of incumbency.

  • Sammy B

    What the hill is wrong with you people in South Carolina. You keep electing this piece of garbage Graham. The same with AZ and McCain, these two are the worst type of traitors.

    • This is why I’m being a party pooper over in the armed rebellion thread. Arizona is another case: They had a perfectly legitimate alternative to McCain the person of J.D. Hayworth who has an adequate if not perfect understanding of the immigration question, and certainly way better than McCain. But no, they had to send McCain back to the Senate because of something Hayworth did with some telemarketing investment way back when.

      I can assure you this: If they were both in the Senate right now, Richard Mourdock and my boss for most of last year, Todd Akin, would have no part of any amnesty bill.

      Our people and their piddley rumping around with unimportant stuff are going to kill us.

    • Paleoconn

      McCain occupies the seat vacated by Goldwater, iirc. Does anybody know what AuH2O’s record on immigration was?

      • Mixed bag. The ’86 IRCA was during his last year in the Senate, and he voted against it. He was not in the Senate when the 1965 act was passed, but he said that he would have voted against it, and his 1964 running mate, Congressman William Miller (R-NY), voted against it and warned everyone that would listen to him what a disaster it would be.

        But Goldwater also has some stupid idiotic “whoa is the oppressed Mexican” public statements.

        • Paleoconn

          Thanks very much, QD. I’ll take a few silly comments if the voting record is solid, versus the empty words of Conservatism Inc. almost never backed by voting record

    • Seek

      I can’t understand the appeal of Lindsey Graham. South Carolina would seem about the last state to elect someone like that. I know the place pretty well. The blacks always will vote Democratic because they want a free lunch — nothing new there. But why do the whites press the lever for him? The lowlands, still influenced by the old plantocracy and gentry, would seem to despise someone like that, as opposed to, say, Fritz Hollings. But the textile managers and workers in the uplands (Greenville-Spartanburg) are natural opponents of mass immigration.

      So what exactly is the appeal of Lindsey Graham? Who’s voting for him?

      • ATBOTL

        According to people who live there, mostly old people: Christian Zionist types, the religious right, ex-military robots…basically the “What’s a matter with Kansas” types who have been bamboozled by the corporate GOP into supporting a plutocratic agenda by turning politics into a mindless college football rivalry.

        Remember a lot of these old Southerners who vote GOP are not really ideological conservatives…rather their conservatism serves as a kind of watered down proxy ethnic identity after segregation collapsed. There is also a tendency in Southern culture to be easily impressed with grandstanding and posturing. The anti-intellectual culture enables this by discouraging deep thinking and careful analysis of issues. Emotions take precedent. Graham is a master of playing up these ultimately trivial issues to give the impression to less sophisticated conservatives that he is the worst enemy of the other side.

  • So CAL Snowman

    “Mega-donor Sheldon Adelson hosted a fundraiser for Graham on Tuesday in Las Vegas.”

    Oh yes the Republicans and Democrats are two completely different parties, and the Republicans will fight for White interests. Ha ha ha, what a complete joke.

  • Flaxen-headed Strumpet

    Gay Graham is only a component (albeit major) part of how screwed up South Carolina is in terms of its political leadership. Jim DeMint dissappointed us by abandoning his senior senate seat for mo’ betta’ money makin’ opportunities running the neocon free tradin’ cheap labor wage helot Heritage Foundation, ex-governor Mark Sanford was on his way to the White House but somehow or another got detoured to Argentina with a case of Horizontal Tango Fever, and the SC Repulicans appointed a mid-term freshman Gullah congressman (and former pizza delivery boy to SC Republican gatherings) to fill out the remainder of DeMint’s US senate term.

    To top it off, a female of Indian sub-continent origins is the Gobernatrix and she won’t even defend SC Gulf War veteran state employees when they are attacked by their SC State Diversity Czars and are subsequently fired for for just asking some questions in a re-education boot camp session.

    http://www.vdare.com/letters/a-north-carolina-reader-reports-on-an-american-patriot-fired-for-talking-back-to-his-diversi

    South Carolina hasn’t had it this good since Reconstruction.

    • Even in his capacity as head of the H-1B-loving and legal immigrant visa loving Heritage Foundation (whose Heritage?), DeMint is still properly opposing the Gang Bangers of Eight bill.

    • William_JD

      We sure could use another Ben Tillman.

      And there might be one in the woodworks ready to challenge Grahamnesty in the next election.

      Watch this space.

  • The__Bobster

    Since then, his approval rating among Republicans and Republican-leaning independents has dropped from 72 percent to 58 percent, according to the Winthrop Poll.

    ____________

    Miss Lindsay’s number is still far too high.

    It was far lower a few years ago. Apparently he’s good at snowing the voters over and over again.

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/the-bad-the-worse-and-the-worst-going-going-and-gone

    South Carolina’s Lindsey Graham, hovering around a 30 percent approval rating, is paying the price for his outrageous anti-American comments and his blind backing of “comprehensive immigration reform.” According to South Carolina political analysts, Graham will be lucky to avoid a vigorous primary challenge.

  • NYB

    A vote for Lindsey Graham is a vote for Sheldon Adelson.

    Big money owns both the Dems and the Republicans.

  • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

    John McCain was “primaried” a few years ago by former Congressman J. D. Hayworth because his constituents were angry over his amnesty campaigns. McCain wound up raising $22 million to defend himself in that primary, if I recall the figure correctly. Hayworth was compromised as a candidate and McCain beat him fairly easily.

    We all have our suspicions as to where the millions comes from millions for characters like these. It would be interesting to know how much of the money is in-state cheap labor interests and how much out-of-state cheap labor and/or leftist bankrollers.

    • me
      • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

        Thanks. Most helpful. One need only type McCain to get data and graphs on his latest campaign:
        http://tinyurl.com/3edb5gh

        Alas, the categories of funding are too broad to draw many sharp conclusions. “Retired,” for example, at 1 million plus does reveal much. The bar chart (scroll down page) showing total amount spent IS revealing. McCain had to spend about 6 times as much as the average senator running in 2010.

  • bigone4u

    Most people still don’t get the idea that reconquista is going to murder the culture and values they hold dear. They’re still buying the “they do the jobs Americans won’t do” and the “hispanic values are our values” bull bleep. Since Graham has no charcter, let the character assassination begin with someone telling the truth about his personal and financial affairs.

    • Bobby

      I couldn’t agree with you more if I tried–hard. Americans remain by the millions, hopelessly clueless on THE major issue of the day, an issue that will transform their lives so profoundly, that even I realize, I can’t fully comprehend, despite years of observing and studying the demographic problems of the U.S. Mexico, where the vast number of illegal foreign nationals come from, is one of the most corrupt places on the entire earth. People like Graham, are willing to cause the U.S. to inherit ALL OF THE SAME CORROSIVENESS THAT MEXICO HAS ALWAYS HAD. Wht puzzles me is that most European-Americans would admit they know all of this about Mexico and yet………………………

      • George White

        Exactly! Anybody who thinks that the USA should be more like mehico, has NEVER BEEN to mehico.

        • bigone4u

          Even the US side in Laredo is not the greatest. On the Mesican side it’s the pits. Unbelievable. Little children begging on the streets. Filth, noise. Ugh.

    • me

      I think that we should have the illegals “do the jobs that Americans won’t do”– like figure out how to secure our borders; expel illegals that snuck into the country; imprison members of Congress as traitors, for going against the long-established immigration laws to garner votes; and hold the corporations responsible for trying to flood the country with ignorant peons in order to keep their labor costs below the poverty level.

  • sbuffalonative

    This guy is teflon. Why?

    • Bobby

      I’m glad you put it that way, because the same feeling motivated me to write the post above. Indeed, why????

      • William_JD

        I went to the same high school he did (years later), and I don’t get it, either.

  • Bobby

    I often wonder about the mentality of many Americans. Take the attitude towards people like Lindsay Graham. The doctor, Avery, in the story above, says his disgust is making him “reconsider” his support for Graham. Then, Susan, the doctors wife, said she’d still vote for Graham because he is a “strong” Republican.(I wouldn’t know what that means anylonger)
    Graham has said as recently as four years ago, that South Carolinians(linans?) are “racists and bigots.” He said this because most people in South Carolina expressed strong outrage, that he was pushing amnesty and rights for illegal foreign nationals in South Carolina. Yet, none of his derogatory talk towards the people of his own state, has bothered them enough to get rid of his worthless a–.
    This is why European-Americans are losing and will lose in the end, on all the important issues. In the end, they will even lose any say in what happens in their own country. Wow!! What an attitude, especially for people presumably as smart as Dr. and Mrs. Burns. Don’t they understand, Grahams past comments, are not one iota different towards the conservatives in South Carolina, then the most leftist Democrats would be. Go figure.

  • WhiteKnight

    One way or another, amnesty is going to be passed. The Republicans need the cheap labor. The Democrats need the voters. Both parties don’t care about whites. The Republicans fool whites into thinking that they care about them. The Republicans only care about mega donors like Sheldon Adelson. He has more influence on the GOP than whites do.

    • David Ashton

      Look into the Adelson-Rubio-Israel linkage.

  • George White

    NUMBERS ads put Ms. Graham’s position into play. He better listen to the people or he’s going to be out of a job.

  • graham cracker

    Graham needs a wife as soon he gets a girlfriend. He is almost 60 years old. He never says anything negative about homos either. Maybe he is a closet fan of Obama.

    • IstvanIN

      A conservative doesn’t have to be hostile to gays, in fact being against same-sex marriage doesn’t make one anti-gay. As far as Graham getting a girlfriend or wife, not terribly likely. I have known a couple of men (heterosexual) who got married late in life (40s, 50s, 60s) but it isn’t common. Graham would no doubt end up like NJ’s Governor McGreevey.

  • IstvanIN

    The main issue is not who Senator Graham dates, if he dates, but why the people of SC keep electing a man who is obvious completely against their best interests as Americans. He could swing from the rafters with Elton John but if he was dedicated to protecting his nation and people, who cares? But like John MCain and now Rand Paul, he is a traitor.

    • Jackryanvb

      Agreed. Regular Whites in South Carolina should feel great shame for electing this queer immigration traitor… If he was gay and pro White, I would defend him.

      • Larry Klein

        I am thinking they just don’t want to “take a chance” and vote for someone decent. At the same time I am sure his chicken hawking (though he did serve in the Air Force) scores him big points with the influential military population.

        • The__Bobster

          “Chicken hawk” has two meanings and I believe he fits both of them.

  • Paleoconn

    Kris Kobach/Jeff Sessions/Jan Brewer, any 2 out of 3 for the Republican ticket in 2016. But that won’t happen, so they can run for the new American Party. No repug, no demorat, just American.

    • Larry Klein

      Jan Brewer has done some good things, but lets face it, after the media got through with her Sarah Palin would look like a rational intellectual in comparison.

      • Paleoconn

        They have nothing on her, and Sarah Palin, as much as I don’t think she is anywhere near as dumb as they would have us think she is, she kinda sets herself up for ridicule with some comments.

  • Jack ryan

    I like the South, went to college in Nashville TN. My best girlfriend was from Chatanooga. Courtney from Alabama is my ideal of the perfect woman.

    That said, South Carolina politics #€£¥#. South Carolina doesn’t have a straight Southern White man in the office of Governor, both US Senators. Why do religious right, military White Conservatives enable Lindsey Graham to push for amnesty, mass third world, race replacement immigration?

    This immigration traitor Graham is a flaming queer. Why do Whites in South Carolina enable this traitor?

    • Jane Johnson

      Look up Trey Gowdy, Republican rep. from S.C. He’s a former prosecutor, and a take no prisoners kind of guy. He was relentless against “my people” Holder during the fast and furious hearings, and basically dared him to try the race card. It was a thing of beauty, and I was so impressed with his tenacity that I emailed him and said that if the A.G. job ever became an elective position, he had my vote. I’d love to see him go national, and hope he gets a shot at Hillary Clinton over the Benghazi fiasco. If anyone can derail her presidential aspirations, Trey Gowdy can.

      • My mother is absolutely in love with him.

        Now, as for less superficial criteria, he has an A-Minus from Numbers USA. Of course, NUSA gives Goober Grahamnesty a C when he really deserves an F, and I’ve always been suspicious that NUSA’s politician grades are too quantitative and not qualitative enough, that some politicians should have higher or lower grades for engaging in either good or bad intangible actions that no percentage grade can communicate. For example, someone who doesn’t answer NUSA’s questionnaires perfectly and would get a B but wields influence in such a way that a really bad bill is stopped should have his or her grade bumped up, and likewise, someone like Goober Grahamnesty who surveys at a C but is at the tip of the spear to swing the borders even more wide open than they are already should have a lower grade.

        That said, if Gowdy has an A- and Grahamnesty has a C, the former is definitely better than the latter in match play.

  • Larry Klein

    “His disgust is making him reconsider his support for home-state Sen. Lindsey Graham, the only Republican sponsor of the bill who is up for reelection in 2014. Yet Susan said she’d still vote for Graham because he’s a “strong Republican,” recalling his leadership during former President Clinton’s impeachment.”

    Here is one of the root causes of the immigration mess. So just now the old fool is reconsidering his support for Graham? Did he get amnesia after ’06 and ’07 or something? At the same time his ding bat wife will keep blinding voting for the sorry senator, because he’s supposedly a “strong Republican” (whatever that is), and because Graham did some dog whistling 3 administrations ago. Good grief, might as well vote for someone because of their haircut or smile.

    • jackryanvb

      Agreed.

      This stupid old woman is still obsessed with Bill Clinton’s sex life. Sounds like a Religious Right, Christian Zionist who just doesn’t think about genocidal immigration.

    • Bobby

      Bingo, Larry. Just how stupid some American citizens are is up for debate. When someone cannot distinguish between a nation destroying issue, or say, whether or not a traffic sign is needed in your city, THEN THAT PERSON HAS NO BUSINESS EVEN VOTING.

  • boogieboogie

    SC person here,As I call one to two times a week asking for him to step aside and back out of this gang of 8,it gets to the point that I fill we are within 10 years of a revolt.When the elected person from your state is in Mexicano state of mind,and even people from California are laughing at SC for this senator,we have a tough row to hoe.We will succeed,or secede,for me secede would be the best NOW.I hope we can have a senator that will be a conservative,balance the budget,defend the US,etc….

    • jackryanvb

      Can’t you do just a bit more with queer as a $3 bill Lindsey Graham?

      How about burning the guy in effigy?

  • WR_the_realist

    Both John McCain and Lindsey Graham sponsored the previous attempt at illegal alien amnesty, back during the Bush administration. Yet stupid Republicans in South Carolina and Arizona voted for those disastrous politicians in the primaries and again in the general election. Why do they have such short memories?

  • liberals are twisted

    A lot of people in this state would really like to see Lindsey get his first wife after he gets a first girlfriend since we never saw him with a female companion being almost 60 yrs old. What about Mark Sanford’s ex-wife? She is available and waiting …

  • Dudley DooWright

    We are conditioned to “vote” but the real action is at the primary level, you have to get involved there or be forever relegated to choosing the “lesser of two evils”.

    • IstvanIN

      Halleluiah! You are so correct. I can not recall how many times I have voted for the lessor of two bums.

  • great white

    Graham is a faggot like Taylor. Both have that whiny nerdy nasal homo tone to their voice and are weakling runt squirts. Both are the type criminals like and easy prey.

    • IstvanIN

      What? Is it really necessary to attack Jared Taylor, who is clearly on our side?

  • MBlanc46

    So billionaire employer Sheldon Adelson favors an immigration amnesty. Imagine that. It doesn’t much matter what the voters of South Carolina–or South Dakota or South Chicago–think. What matters is what the millionaires and billionaires who own the candidates think.