Chinese Deluge U.S. Master’s Programs

Melissa Korn, Wall Street Journal, April 3, 2013

When the business school at the University of California, Davis, started its master’s program in accounting last year, administrators expected to attract aspiring accountants from nearby colleges.

What they got instead was a wave of interest from overseas: Roughly two-thirds of the 189 applications received for last fall’s entering class came from Chinese citizens.

{snip}

Davis has plenty of company. Specialized master’s degrees in accounting, finance and other disciplines—generally aimed at students just out of college and lasting one year—have found tremendous popularity in recent years among Chinese nationals seeking a competitive edge and U.S. experience.

Such demand has provided steady revenues for business schools at a time when traditional M.B.A. programs are losing their appeal among U.S. students. But the uneven applicant pool has left many schools weighing financial goals against uninspiring classroom experiences for both Chinese and local students and worrying about weak job-placement rates.

Like companies, business schools “have to change with the times and go where the market is,” says Anurag Gupta, chair of the banking and finance department at Case Western Reserve University’s Weatherhead School of Management.

More than 85% of applicants to Weatherhead’s current Finance master’s program came from China, and more than 80% of the 58-student class is Chinese. {snip}

{snip}

Nearly 60,000 Chinese citizens took the Graduate Management Admission Test in the 2011-2012 testing year, about triple the number in 2007-2008. In the latest year, 78% of those score reports were sent to U.S. programs, while 64% went to specialized master’s degrees world-wide.

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Eleven of the 12 current finance master’s students at Loyola University Chicago’s Quinlan School of Business are international, with eight from China. That has challenged instructors, students and administrators.

“It changes the dynamic when there’s a group of students who have something in common that other students don’t share,” says Dean Kathleen A. Getz. “It can create some sense that there are two different groups being taught.”

{snip}

Karla Savina, one of three Americans in her 57-person class in the Applied Finance program at Pepperdine University’s business school, says she has learned about Chinese culture, and adds that her hardworking classmates have pushed her academically. But their unfamiliarity with American-style classroom discussion means Ms. Savina, 36, doesn’t “get the communication that I would like within the classroom.”

Application volume for the master’s in Applied Finance program has soared in recent years, fueled almost entirely by increases from China. The Graziadio School of Business and Management received 158 applications for the class that started in fall 2009—126 of which were from China—and received 497 for the class that started last fall, with 471 from China.

{snip}

But some schools fear that becoming a darling of Chinese students—or students from any single country—may irk local and foreign students.

The business schools at University of Notre Dame, Indiana University and MIT are looking to their parent universities’ undergraduates to help diversify their master’s of science classes. {snip}

Applicants from abroad are “asking a lot about class makeup,” says Marci Armstrong, associate dean of graduate programs at Southern Methodist University’s Cox School of Business. “They’re seeking to be around American students. They really don’t want to be in a class where everyone around them is from their home country.”

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  • Actually, I don’t mind. Perhaps a true threat like the Chinese will wake up these white punks. Some of them might realize that the Chinese can avoid being racist by requiring applicants to speak Chinese before getting hired.

    • So CAL Snowman

      I can speak fluent Chinese by throwing a handful of quarters at a metal desk. I don’t think the interviewer would be too impressed though.

      • QuinnTheEskimo9

        Thanks for the laugh and that’s about the gist of it.
        If they hire Chinese, they can go down in flames like so many other companies that have hired Chinese and Indian tech workers to replace White Americans.

  • wattylersrevolt

    When America was 90 percent Native Born White American and NASA was 99 percent Native Born White American…Native Born White American put 12 Alpha Native Born White American Males with advanced Engineering degrees on the Moon. These days, the treasonous scum of the Republican and Democratic Parties are importing thousands and thousads of chinese every year into Our America where they can legally vote for our race-replacement at election time and actively participate in the destruction of who knows how many centuries of Native Born White American Engineering,Tech, and Medical Experience..future generations of Native Born White American Engineering,Tech and Medical Experience that will never be developed included…..in places such as Apalachia.
    How did we ever manage when there hardly any chinese here in our America? Very well thankyou.
    The Chinese Exclusion Act was a wonderfull bit of late 8th century legislation that protected the racial interests of millions of Native Born White Americans. We can thank a Socialist Jew named Samuel Gompers and an Irish legal immigrant named Dennis Kearney fo its Passage.
    If the chinese invader has his-her way there will never be a Alpha Native Born White American Male sent into space ever again. They will make certain that this never happens again.
    Bring back the Chinese Exlusion Act!!!.. I am not a Racial Separatist..I am an Expultionist. I want the chinese invader out of Our America. They ae not Our Kind..they do ot belong here…

    • brengunn

      Didn’t you write this comment for a different article last week? Or one very similar to it, at least.

      • The__Bobster

        Even if he did, it still applies, so what’s your point?

        • brengunn

          What’s the point in parroting the same thing over and over again? I’m sure he if he/she thought about the article he could come up with something more than a copy/paste post that he used last week.

          • Beetlejuice

            Do you say the same to John Engelman who cuts and pastes the exact same few comments daily?
            Or maybe you agree with him. Or maybe you ARE him.

          • brengunn

            I do happen to agree with a lot of what he says, but I’m not quite so Judeophilic. I’ve also never noticed that he cuts and pastes his comments, which I always find to be reasoned and intelligent.

            And no, I’m not him. It’s within the realms of the possible that there are at least two liberals who also happen to be realists, you should rejoice, the message is getting out there.

          • Beetlejuice

            You say you are a realist yet you support sociopathic, White-hating communists like Obama who support, advocate and promote race-replacing Native Born White Americans in the US with the scum of the3rd world via massive immigration.

            Do you support the flooding of Asian and African countries with non-Asians and Africans or is it only Whites that you believe must be race-replaced?

            Now that we know your politics and that you support the race-replacement of Whites in Britain and the United States all that’s left is for you to tell us WHY you suport the genocide of the White Race.

            If there is no White Genocide then you can list the countries you think have a right to remain White, where White institutions and establishments are able to stay explicitly White without anyone screaming about “White Privilege” or “White Racism.”

            You may list as many countries as you’d like.

          • brengunn

            I cannot fathom how you can call Obama a communist. It leads me to question whether you know what a communist is. Obama is a centrist and I would say center right, at that. He is no more ‘white hating’ than any other politician who gets to be president. Had Mitt Romney or John McCain been president, I’m sure, almost identical immigration policies would be enacted.

            Though I disagree with mass immigration into Europe and else where, I do not disagree with all immigration, nor do I hate the immigrants that come to live here. In fact, I actually like a certain level of immigrants as I believe it adds to our communities but these communities must remain majority white as I believe European culture to be superior to all others.

            As to your question about supporting the flooding of Asian and African countries: I do not support the flooding of white countries so it would be hypocritical of me support it for others, though I do look at some African countries and think re-colonisation would have to be better and safer for their citizens than what they have now.

            As far as I’m aware race realism is the belief that there are innate differences between the races that have biological roots. This is what I believe. I’m not a white nationalist or separatist. My main interest here is to see honesty return to the debate about race and culture, to see an end to European post-colonial guilt and for European countries to remain majority, though not exclusively white.

          • potato78

            He doesn’t even know anything about COMMUNIST and COMMUNISM.
            He is just a “no” brain follower.

          • wattylersrevolt

            You would be suprised and shocked at what ordinary American Jews tell me….growing disgust with asians. American Renaissances’ prohibition…prudery actually…against profane language prevents me from quoting their very nasty anti-asian sentiments. Jewish Elites have destroyed America for their own kind. At the end of the day, it was all about the $$$$$…just like it was…and still is…for the subhuman scum known as the Kennedy Clan from Hyannis Port.

          • PesachPatriot

            I generally like and get along with most asians, but just like I don’t want america turned into zimbabwe or mexico, I don’t want it turned into Red China either. I am also very uneasy about the fact that this country now owes 16 trillion plus interest with a good chunk of it owned by china…I share your feeling about unmentionable elites….they have wrecked this country pretty good and it certainly hasn’t benefited me whatsoever.

          • François

            It think if they start to increasingly move to China, and do the same thing over there, they will have a very big surprise!

          • François

            “You would be suprised and shocked at what ordinary American Jews tell me….growing disgust with asians.”

            Perhaps they are worried about the new competition Asians represent. Plus, they won’t be able to manipulate the Chinese using “White guilt”: the Chinese are proud of their culture, heritage and accomplishments. Very bad news for our “friends”.

      • SmithandSmith

        How about you going to any liberal website of your choice and count how many times they repeat their sick and demented messages instead.

      • wattylersrevolt

        I must have written it a thousand times. It is not a very complicated issue. What I wrote is what the celebrities in this movement should be saying incesssantly in public..really piss of the asian invader..lots of free publicity.
        If you are an Expultionist raise your hand!!
        How far do you want the borders of the chinese invader geneline to extend deep into the US? I want a two very large oceans separation from china…
        Separatism= chinese conquest

        • wattylersrevolt

          If there are scenes of mega-drought devastation this summer on the MSM..Texas…Mexifornia…Southeast…these scenes may just trigger deep racial tribal instincts in our fellow Native Born White Americans..eventually it will…and its going to merciless and efficient..no sob stories tolerated.
          China is an ecological basketcase..it will never be a threat to America…except if we import China into America..first it will be conquest…than ecological collapse..and with this ecological collapse caused by the chinese invader…there goes the remant Native Born White American Population in some outpost in Idaho. The Chinese are ecocidal maniacs. Are they a match for the lowly cockroach in the end?

          • potato78

            Wow, Can you tell more about a reason? why do you have a lot of hatred to China? Did you get any hurt in China or Chinese in us?

          • QuinnTheEskimo9

            This is a silly, childish answer. I haven’t seen you debate ONE point that watttyler has posted.
            If you are ready to debate the displacement and race replacement of Whites I am already to debate but you’ve got to stop with the ad hominem, childish responses.
            Are you non-White, anti-White or a self-hating White?

          • TeutonicKnight67

            Clearly Potato78 is both non-white and anti-white.

          • TheAntidote

            …And potatohead’s pidgin English is wearing very thin.

        • Bon, From the Land of Babble

          Repeat it until everyone gets it– we are being RACE REPLACED and the outcome for Native Born White Americans will NOT be good.

          That goes for Britain too.

          Bon

          • Bad_Mr_Frosty

            Canada and Australia are being race-replaced with Chinese. Europe is being replaced by Muslims and America by Mexicans. Doesn’t matter who, just as long as they’re NOT WHITE. That is GENOCIDE by every definition of the word.

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            Exactly.

            How is this not White Genocide?? – forced immigration + force race replacement + forced tolerance + assimilation = end of White people.

            To any White genocide deniers here: If there is NO White genocide, it should be VERY easy to name countries where explicitly White schools, White business, White churches, White institutions and communities are allowed to exist, and maintain themselves without being called “Racist!!”

            Bon

          • François

            If the Un does not recognise that fact, then, let White countries secede from the UN.

        • Beetlejuice

          wattylersrevolt, it’s okay to be dogmatic and repetitive when it comes to the right of your race to exist. Any Whites who don’t wanna live, that’s fine, just get out of the way of those of us who DO want to live as whites.

          It’s not our job to be fair or even civil to those who are trying to end our race, the White Race.

      • Conan

        His posts are mostly the same. I don’t read them due to his tendency to write “native born white Americans” fifty times in one paragraph.

        • brengunn

          I know, that is sort of annoying.

      • QuinnTheEskimo9

        Why can’t you reply properly? I haven’t seen ONE post where you actually debate the topic, NOT ONE.

        Now, if you want to have a REAL debate and look at the FACTS, I’m all ready to debate with you, but you have to stop with this childish behaviour, brengunn.

        Think about the thousands of people reading this and seeing your childish answer, without actually debating or having any point but mockery. I can ask you back; Were you bullied as a child? Because most bullies were.

        • brengunn

          Debate what Quinn? My apologies to wattyler’srevolt if my post came off as bullying in tone, that was not the intention. I just don’t see the point in cutting and pasting comments.

          As to you comments about the Chinese students taking native British students places, it’s not true. Our Universities are some of the best in the world, foreign students want to study here and the universities make great money providing places for them and ultimately the country benefits from the tax generated. As long as it doesn’t interfere with our own students, or change the nature and European way, I’ve no problem with it.

    • potato78

      When you become us president, you can send the bill of “Chinese Exclusion Act” to Congress, let them pass the bill. From then, all chinese would disappear in us.

      God bless America!

    • Crystal Evans

      Who do you think built the railroads? Chinese immigrants were brought from China to do the heavy work of lifting the railroad tracks and put them in place. Granted they were cheap labor. But America has been addicted to cheap labor since the beginning of the nation.

      • josh

        Chinese didnt build the railroads ;did you learn that in your Martin Luther King racism class?? The IRISH built the railroads as they built so MUCH of this country. Yes the Chinee did work on railroads,and the work wasnt exactly fun. The Chinee who lived and worked here in the past are NOT the problem,genius;its the hordes of Chinese coming into the country now and replacing white men in the tech sectors that will be a disaster for us.

        • potato78

          chinese is not number one on the “imported” list.

          Indians are.

          • potato78

            If I have money, I will build a super speed railroad from NY city to Washington DC, cross Raleigh, NC to Atlanta, GE

          • Xanthippe2

            But the Indian GOVERNMENT isn’t much of a threat. Kind of hampered by multicultrualism Indian style.

        • potato78

          I would ask Irish Supremacists to lead Jews, then Jews lead Indians, then Indians lead all mexicans, mexicans lead blacks to build the super speed railroad.

        • bigone4u

          The tone of your reply is unnecessary.

          • QuinnTheEskimo9

            Righteous anger is an appropriate response to those who come onto a White issues site only to denigrate and abase Whites, to “put us in our place” or try to rewrite White history. I see this constantly on these threads and others I visit any time White issues are discussed.

            We Whites are constantly told to be “polite” and “tolerant” as our country is being overrun and colonised by the high-fertility Third World, with plans for many, many more.

            It is perfectly justified to be furious when we Whites are being physically invaded,reduced to a minority and our culture and history taken away from us. The end result is the genocide of the White race.

        • TeutonicKnight67

          THANK YOU Josh! The Chinese contribution to the transcontinental Railroad has been over-hyped since the golden spike was driven at Promontory Point. The Irish contribution to the US in labor and bloodshed continues to be great. If we could get rid of the hideous 1965 Immigration Reform Act we could get even more of them to contribute.

      • IstvanIN

        They didn’t build the railroads any more than modern track laying equipments build the railroads today. The men who designed and engineered the railroads built them. Without the Chinese the railroad barons would have used Americans, Irish, German or Eastern European immigrants.

        • potato78

          I guess that money talks.

          No matter in China and US.

          Those super speed or low speed railroads were built in China and US using a same principle = money.

          Whoever is qualified to work for that money. Then that money goes to whose pocket. Of course, us is super mentor to china.

        • TheAntidote

          There were plenty of Freedmen. Why wasn’t Negro (African American) labour employed to blast through the Sierras and lay track across the Great Plains?

          • TeutonicKnight67

            Obsolete Farm Equipment is not easily re-tooled to other tasks.

        • TeutonicKnight67

          They DID use Irish, Germans and Eastern Europeans. The Chinese contributed very little.

      • NYB

        I know who “built” the railroads. A lot of Irish, Scottish, English and other European blood. The Chinese contribution of manual labor was only one component.

        I know who built the modern Chinese high-speed rail system – white engineers and inventors. From their factories to their space program, European and American invention made possible nearly every technological advance that the Chinese currently enjoy.

        • potato78

          Textbooks are always saying that Chinese was the real people built railroads in America. Now Amren people are suddenly saying that Irish, Scottish, English are real people, who built those railroads.

          Please clarify that.

          • Xerxes22

            It’s only recently that textbooks have said that . They have to be PC (anti-Whie) nowdays. I’m surprised that they don’t claim that Blacks built the railroads. The fact is that California was sparsely settled in those days. Workers would have to travel by ship around the tip of South America to get to California, a long and costly voyage. The railroad companies decided it was cheaper to bring in Chinese immigrants to build the western half of the railroad up to and through the Rocky mountains. The rest or eastern half was built by civil war verterans, mostly Irish. This was alway taught in school textbooks untill the recent rewriting of American history by our enemies.

          • Xanthippe2

            At least the Railroads, and their backers in government, had the sense not to allow in many Chinese women. The men would move back to China with their money (their plan in the first place) or die in the U.S. if something went wrong. Even these “robber barons” and their bought officials didn’t want Whites forever displaced.

          • Big Bill

            For heaven’s sake of course they say that! And they also say that blacks “built” the plantations.

        • potato78

          I thought that our anglo brothers were printing money and let Chinese brothers build railroads in America.

      • WhitemanFromTown

        Thats liberal folklore. All the bridges and buildings built in Europe dont have any cotton picking hands on them. Gee, I wonder how that was done. Were we copying what we saw in Africa?

      • To be truthful, the Chinese build roughly half of those railroads while the Irish built the other half.

        • potato78

          very factual. Respected America History.

      • MBlanc46

        It’s the cheap labor addiction that is driving the globalization that is destroying our culture.

        • QuinnTheEskimo9

          It is traitorous politicians and globalists who are destroying our White countries and culture. Asians and Africans are not having their culture and homeland destroyed from massive non-Asian/African immigration.
          No other countries except White countries are being forced to open their borders to the scum of the Third World.
          Africa for Africans,Asia for Asians but White Countries for everyone.

          This is White genocide,there is NO other way to see it.

      • freddy_hills

        The Chinese and Irish built railroads the same way horses plow fields.

        Seriously, the railroads were built by Cornelius Vanderbilt, Thomas Clark Durant, the Ames brothers, Leland Stanford, Mark Hopkins, Collis Huntington, Charles Crocker, Jay Gould, Jim Fisk, Russell Sage, John Insley Blair, James Jerome Hill, Edward Henry Harriman and a few others. They could have found any illiterate peasant to hammer spikes.

      • Big Bill

        Sorry, sugar. Businessmen (American and otherwise) have always been addicted to cheap labor. “Americans” haven’t. There is no way that we were going to turn California over to the Chinese. They were welcome to come here and work and then go back and better their own countries. The last thing we were going to recreate here was a monster Chinese ghetto.

    • josh

      I couldnt agree MORE with you!!! Our ancestors stood up for this country and protected it from the foreign hordes. Modern Americans cheerfully trash our ancestors as “rayciss” “sexiss” and “homophobic” etc. The jews have demonized those who have gone before.

    • David Ashton

      And help put China on the moon and its weaponry in space.
      China floods the west with goods made by cheap and slave labor, and uses the profits for geopolitical domination – a command economy can do this.

      • Beetlejuice

        The Chinese sell us fake parts amongst other “trinkets” and are using the proceeds to buy up hard assets in the US like land, buildings and water. They are also busy colonizing Africa with designs on Africa’s valuable natural resources. They, along with India are the world’s worst polluters.

        Anyone who says these people are benign or perhaps even White friendly needs to have his head examined. Pity so few on these threads see it that way and buy the Kool-Aid about Asians being 0h-so-superior that John Engelman is selling. Asians are not under threat of genocide or losing their majority in their own homelands, but we Whites.

        If one is White, nothing else matters.

      • Intrepid

        You’re acting like the American companies who outsourced manufacturing there had nothing to do with this.

        • David Ashton

          Acting like what?
          I agree with you, but just didn’t make this point here.

    • wattylersrevolt

      Let us not forget the Wright Brothers…Wilbur and Orville…the Native Born White American Engineering Geniuses. At each step in the developement of their invention they were confronted with very challengng engineering probems which they overcame with enormous ingenuity…and finally, it really all came totogether a few years late in Germany when they basically demonstrated a real, bona fide plane.

      Without a doubt, what we are witnessing is the complete destruction Native Born White American Experience..Centuries of it…and the asian invaders will make certain that all these centuries of Native Born White American Engineering Experience will be lost forever..they enthusiastically vote for it at election time.

      I see that Comrade Jared Taylor is back at at it again over at Vdare.com with building a monument to Rushton,Lynn, and Jenson..I suppose when frog-face Gottfriedson croaks Jared will add her to the Memorial Wall. What a lost opportunity…two days after the American Renaissace Conference and Jaraed Taylor could be writing about the treachery of the chinese invader…and he could also have written about the revolutionary accomplishments of the Orville and Neville Wright..outrageously today on vdare.com we get another Eulogy to three White Men who are 100 percent irrelevant to the fundamental issue facing millions of Native Born White Americans:race=replacement..street by street..town by town…county by county..state by state…

      Has Jared Taylor ever spoken out against the evil H-1 and L-1 B Visa programs..to my knowledge he has not. And I would like to why? Perhaps his obsession why IQ score psychometrics prevents him from doing so.

      Jared Taylor can yoou imagine the MSM reaction if you had gone after the asian invaders this past weekend and talked about the Amazingly Great Orville and Neville Wright?…and that Amazingly Great Native Born White American of Celtic Heritage Kelly Johnson…founder of Lockheed Skunkworks One word:APOPLECTIC…asian invader same reaction. Of course, is this what we want..much better than a bunch of teenage losers holding placards outside the American Renaissance Conference.

      Hey Pete Brimelow

      Why don’t you post this comment on vdare.com…let us embolden the Troops of White Resistance.

      • David Ashton

        Quite right – race replacement is the primary morally indefensible danger.

        But it is not inconsistent to defend white IQ averages against Black and Mexican averages; I think the marginal superiority of the Chinese IQ is a sampling error, but the danger is their vast population size and current tendency to migrate outwards.

        • François

          And their ambition.

    • QuinnTheEskimo9

      I, for one, hope you keep repeating this same message over and over and over again until everyone gets it. It can’t be repeated enough! We Whites are facing minority status in the countries WE founded. What else matters than fighting the genocide of our race? We will soon, ALL OF US, be South Africa where Whites are chopped apart, mutilated, and tortured in the most horrendous manner possible, and no one is spared, babies, small children, the elderly, men, women and children are at the mercy of savage beasts while the western media yawns because it’s ONLY WHITES.
      The UN calls Chinese invasion of Tibet a “genocide” but White homelands?
      And, there are people cheering this process on, including posters on AR.

    • Intrepid

      They’re not invading. We’re taking their money in exchange for providing a service.

  • potato78

    They were brainwashed by us superemacism. That is the reason they want to come us.

    • Crystal Evans

      I am sure they are going to universities in the UK , Australia and New Zealand as well.

      • brengunn

        I live in an university town in the UK and there are thousands of Chinese here. I don’t begrudge them there chance to study in the West so long as it doesn’t affect our youth from having the chance to study in our elite institutions.

        The situation is further complicated by Asians who are US citizens. I wonder if their success will change the nature of colleges. We know that they bring a different attitude to learning, I fear this will adversely affect our colleges.

        • josh

          I DO begrudge them. They are eating OUR bread.Get them out.

        • QuinnTheEskimo9

          They are taking up slots that should go to Native Born White Britons, NOT Chinese. You are losing your country faster than we are losing ours (the US). Because your specious, traitorous labour rulers have imported so many high-fertility Moslems and Africans, you native Whites will soon be a minority in the country your ancestors created. Only 20% of the births in London are White.
          You will be under Sharia law soon enough and Britain will be gone.
          What then?

        • François

          ” I don’t begrudge them there chance to study in the West so long as it
          doesn’t affect our youth from having the chance to study in our elite
          institutions.”

          It does.

    • Intrepid

      U.S. grade school education is horrible. But our post-secondary institutions are among the best in the world. It’s paradoxical.

    • François

      What?

  • Urban Teacher

    I’ve worked with Chinese researchers in biomedical research. They are intelligent and highly motivated. Give them an experiment and they will carry it through. Tell them what the outcome of the experiment should be and that is what it will be…no matter what. They respect authority.

    Cross them and they will wait for an opportunity to get revenge. They have long memories.

    • MBlanc46

      They’re going to be tough enough to compete with without giving them the places in our institutions of higher learning that should be going to our own young people.

      • François

        Exactly! They have their own institutions, in their home countries. American universities were built for Americans.

    • Intrepid

      If you were the boss or authority figure in this case, then telling a worker or employee what “should happen” isn’t the way to go if you want unbiased results. Then you’re simply chalking up that self-fulfilling prophecy to stereotypes.

  • pcmustgo

    It’s an easy way to immigrate to the US… get a student visa, get a job here…

    • Intrepid

      You’re assuming they want to immigrate. More likely they’re simply here to learn because educational opportunities at home were limited.

  • The__Bobster

    More than 85% of applicants to Weatherhead’s current Finance master’s program came from China, and more than 80% of the 58-student class is Chinese. {snip}
    _________
    I’m sure that Romney wants to staple a green cards to each and every one of their diplomas, which is why they enrolled there and Americans didn’t. Of course the college wants them because they pay more for tuition. However, Califoreigner taxpayers are still footing part of the bill.

    • Crystal Evans

      Why don’t we help American students get these advanced degrees? There can be scholarships as well as loan forgiveness programs to encourage these students. We were never dependent upon foreign students meeting our needs before and we should not now.

      • potato78

        Money talks.
        International students pay much more tuition money to schools for admission than locals.

        • David Ashton

          The Chinese government if it so wishes can provide whatever money their overseas students need to dominate western college entrance.

          • Intrepid

            The vast majority of students attending are from newly wealthy Chinese families, not the government.

          • François

            Could be part of an agenda.

      • MBlanc46

        Higher education costs money. The Chinese government pays for many of those students to come here. Who’s going to pay for the kid across the street’s grad school? He’s already up to his neck in loans from undergrad. His parents are tapped out from sending four kids through school. So a Chinese will get that spot instead of him.

      • QuinnTheEskimo9

        Unlike for every other racial/ethnic/religious group, there are NO explicitly White scholarships. Whites must pay full freight even though we support these with our tax dollars. Even illegal aliens are getting in-state tuition and state scholarship monies over Whites.

        • potato78

          China government has set up international scholarships for international students, especially for White Scholarships.

        • François

          “Even illegal aliens are getting in-state tuition…”.

          That nonsense needs to be stopped!

    • dhs

      That’s a great reason not to have voted for Romny.I can think of a much better place to staple a green card.

  • brengunn

    It makes business sense to allow them third level education in the West. But we must remember that our universities were built by Europeans if we allow them to be overrun by Asians they will lose that which made them great in the first place.

    • potato78

      The first place is that they were irreversablely brainwashed already.

      You worry too much.

      • brengunn

        There’s more to college than gender/feminist studies. I for one don’t want to see them turn into East Asian robot factories.

    • 1stworlder

      “They’re seeking to be around American students. They really don’t want to be in a class where everyone around them is from their home country.”
      Just like everyone else that comes to the US

  • 1stworlder

    “They’re seeking to be around American students. They really don’t want to be in a class where everyone around them is from their home country.”
    Just like everyone else that comes to the US now, they don’t want to be around people like them.

  • guest

    we are under absolutely no obligation to educate East Asians.
    I recall reading an Atlantic article about the new ‘global elite’ and one Taiwanese graduate of harvard boasted he hired asians because americans ‘didn’t work hard enough’ (translation cheap enough) – the idea that someone would come to this country and receive an education subsidized by taxpayers and then have the gaul to say something like that is an indicator of just how far we’ve fallen.

    • QuinnTheEskimo9

      Well then, he’ll flounder and fail like so many companies that have relied on Asian or East Indian “talent” over Whites.

    • Intrepid

      Who’s “we”? Those U.S. schools who are accepting students from Asia aren’t white nationalists. Don’t forget that foreign students pay a lot of money to be here. Money which keeps Americans employed and improves our economy.

  • bigone4u

    Much of the enrollment of the Chinese occurs in the framework of a student/faculty exchange program. The Chinese profs who come to America can barely speak English, but they end up teaching anyway. Their classes are dreadful. They are well known to be industrial spies, spending their time gathering cutting edge research papers and ideas and shipping them back to China.
    *
    There are also rich Chinese businessmen donating to the universities large sums of money with big strings attached. Richard Liu donated $1,000,000 to the San Antonio business school, but the school can only spend the money on …. ta ta … the Chinese! Pathetic is the greed of these college administrators who are traitors selling out America for a few stinking dollars just to put another line on their resumes.
    *
    The Chinese already own our universities. They will own us all unless we resist.

    • Claire Jason

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      • QuinnTheEskimo9

        Get lost you effing troll. This is not the place for selling things, try the SPLC, ADL or Tim Wise’s site.

    • Intrepid

      Unless you’ve taken their classes then I doubt you actually know the quality of the teaching that goes on. You’re just speculating. Also, this isn’t the Cold War. Assuming they’re all spies is unwarranted. If China assumed every American in their borders was a spy, things would get complicated and dangerous quickly.

      • bigone4u

        Results of the teaching surveys are public. Complaints about teaching get around. When I can’t understand anything a Chinese professor says I think it’s safe to say the students cannot understand. Spying: I did not say the spying was illegal. Industrial spying that involves the harvesting of public documents, such as research circulating on campus, is legal but in my view it is immoral to bring in the Chinese and let them enrich their country at our expense by such legal espionage.

        • Intrepid

          Professors teach as part of their contract with the school. It doesn’t mean they’re good teachers. Language barriers just add to the problem. The results of teaching surveys are taken with a grain of salt; lots of students who rate a prof badly also happen to be people who performed poorly in the course.

      • freddy_hills

        I’ve taken several classes from Chinese instructors. They may have known their stuff. But I’d have no way of knowing since they didn’t speak a language I could understand.

  • Katherine McChesney

    Four years ago I was on UCLA Westwood’s campus. Chinese students as far as the eye could see. It was like being in a foreign country. The ESL school on my block in Santa Monica catered to Chinese. They were pleasant students. I used to carry on conversations with them at my favorite coffee shop. They were eager to learn our language. I met one Japanese student from UCLA. He decided to return to Japan because the homosexuals on UCLA’s campus were bullying him, trying to convince him that he was like them. Bullying is typical behavior by Los Angeles homosexuals, particularly lesbians.

    • antiallanbloom

      “Bullying is typical behavior by Los Angeles homosexuals, particularly lesbians.”

      seriously? in what way? do you think it’s b/c you’re a woman?

    • François

      So have I. Some are nice people, yes. But that is certainly no reason for us to passively allow them to colonize our White democratic nations.

  • JohnEngelman

    For years, many Asian-Americans have been convinced that it’s harder for them to gain admission to the nation’s top colleges.

    Studies show that Asian-Americans meet these colleges’ admissions standards far out of proportion to their 6 percent representation in the U.S. population, and that they often need test scores hundreds of points higher than applicants from other ethnic groups to have an equal chance of admission…

    Asian students have higher average SAT scores than any other group, including whites.
    http://www.amren.com/news/2011/12/some_asians_col/

    • potato78

      It is very true.

    • Bad_Mr_Frosty

      If they are so smart, hardworking and superior in every way, why is China a steaming pile of feces and they flee to White countries in droves?

      • ViktorNN

        Chinese history tells the tale – century after century of stagnation, isolationism, complacency, superstition, authoritarianism, rampant institutionalized corruption, grinding poverty for the vast majority of its people, horrifying despoiling of their own environment etc. etc.

        Whatever the Chinese have in IQ, it certainly has made little difference for the average Chinese person throughout history, or for the Chinese nation throughout history.

        As you correctly point out – the Chinese people themselves vote with their feet.

        They’d rather be white!

        Who can blame them?

        • QuinnTheEskimo9

          IQ tests don’t measure ingenuity, imagination, talent, vision, resilience, courage, desire, motivation, independence, self-control, honesty, etc which are all genetic traits and qualities that Whites overwhelming possess over Jews, Asians and blacks.

          • JohnEngelman

            QuinnTheEskimo9,

            You sound like a liberal claiming that IQ tests are meaningless. Since the First World War they have proven their ability to accurately predict academic performance, and other outcomes in life.

            There is a strong correlation between IQ and creativity. In high school John Lennon tested at 160. Truman Capote tested at an astonishing 215. Those are only two examples.

            Orientals not only tend to have higher IQs than whites. They have lower rates of crime and illegitimacy. Low rates of crime and illegitimacy reflect self-control and honesty.

            I have documented all of these assertions using sources I have found on this website.

      • Bossman

        I read in the news that we in the West have a cognitive approach to learning whereas the Chinese and all Asians have an effort approach to learning. They devote an enormous amount of time and energy to understand things.

        • François

          To be hard working, and effort, are greatly valued in their cultures.

    • QuinnTheEskimo9

      I might have known I’d come across a post from you hijacking another thread by promoting your Asian fetish.
      Everyone: Vote down and immediately flag.

      • JohnEngelman

        When discussing the large number of Orientals in American universities, the fact that they tend to perform better academically than whites is relevant.

        • QuinnTheEskimo9

          I defy you to prove this.

          • potato78

            Number one rule is “white can not attack white”.

  • This is a great racket for these schools, they use these students to fill seats in graduate programs. These students will do well with their coursework and not, generaly, cause any problems on campus. Of course, they get a degree that, at least in the US, is worthless to them unless an employer is willing to sponsor. If it gets that far, many of the Chinese students are whip smart but their conversational English is horrible.
    My Alma Mater has a LOT of Chinese students in its Master of Accounting program, and when I go back to interview students for entry level jobs at my firm, most of the Chinese students don’t make it past the first round because of the language barrier. It’s like they know enough to read it and understand when it is spoken to them (it’s reflected in how well they do with their coursework) but don’t develop the ability to speak it well. And they tend to stick together, so they don’t improve by spending more time with native speakers.

    • potato78

      Indeed, very factual basis.
      They still have culture barrier. It is not that easy to overcome.

  • NYB

    This is the same story in Australia, Canada, and Britain.

    The Chinese have a pool of 1.3 billion people to draw from. They have enough to send their best and brightest abroad to displace our professional classes, to be followed by our political classes.

    It is a strategic assault on North America. They are colonizing us to create a fifth column, in the race war between whites and Chinese. China and Taiwan are environmentally toxic, over-crowded, and incapable of food self-sufficiency. The Chinese covet ownership of North America, which has a significant portion of the world’s cultivable, unspoiled land.

    But for the fact that whites are in their way, they’d be sending hundreds of millions of Chinese colonizers to the Americas. Instead they’re chipping away at us in long term demographic war.

    • potato78

      Please don’t complain too much.
      Money talks.
      This is capitalism, if you don’t like it. Please move to China and change China….
      http://news.yahoo.com/gay-rights-groups-await-putin-124926978.html

      • QuinnTheEskimo9

        Go ahead and try to change China. You’d be disappeard before the day is done and all records of your existence erased. Chinese don’t fools around. England used to be the same way and now it’s been neutered.

    • David Ashton

      Yes, this is the core of the problem. It is not so much a matter of what we like or hate inside China, or even whether we find young Chinese girls as delicious as poor old J.E.

    • Bossman

      Yeah, I believe that myself. A Chinese man once said to me that it was grossly unfair that China should be so crowded and Canada to be so big and so empty. Asians want to extend themselves into the Americas. During WWII, Japan’s ultimate aim was to conquer North America.

      • NYB

        The Chinese are taught that the northern Americas are just a recent remnant of the British Empire, a mere few hundred years old, as opposed to their “5000 year old” civilization.

        The collective Chinese psyche disputes white ownership of our share of the global landmass. They see North America and Australia as terra nullius (no man’s land), still up for grabs, and have devised moral justifications for their extra-territorial colonial aggression, not unlike Imperial Japan pre-World War II.

        This makes them a threat to be taken seriously. We must vigorously defend our racial boundaries from Chinese encroachment, or they will conclude we are weak.

      • QuinnTheEskimo9

        They’re busy conquering and colonising Africa too. They’ve overpopulated their homeland and polluted the hell out of it and now they’re looking for new horizons to take up their excess population and new resources to exploit.
        We Whites are under threat of genocide,they are not,their country, people and culture are secure, ours is not.

    • Intrepid

      Sheer paranoia. Don’t forget that “toxic environment” was the result of our outsourcing of manufacturing there. We didn’t eliminate pollution, we just put it somewhere else.

      China has never waged a war against anyone outside of Asia in it’s entire history, and there’s no evidence they’re going to start now.

      It’s not a “strategic assault on North America” if the U.S. schools advertising themselves accept foreign students who pay lots of money to attend.

      • François

        “… and there’s no evidence they’re going to start now.”.

        Why wage war now, against the US, when they can buy pieces of it, one by one, over the years?

        It would seem like their strategy is one of conquest, but without firing a single shot.

    • ryanball

      Pregnant Chinese women are coming here by the plane-load every day to give birth to their American citizen babies who will be raised in China and taught loyalty to only China and then be free to come to the US as adults to join the 5th column.

    • ryanball

      For the past decade, the Chinese military has been stockpiling neutron bombs—that annihilate all human life but leave all buildings, houses, and farm lands untouched. WHY are they doing this??

  • a multiracial individual

    $$$$$International tuition rates$$$$………….

    • evilsandmich

      They have to pay the ‘rack rate’ for tuition at places like Case – crazy expensive. No American would pay what they’re paying to go to that place (thus Case’s keen interest on bringing in the big money).

      I guess you may have a point though. The sky seems to be the limit to what they’re willing to pay for a degree of negligible value; perhaps a $10,000 student visa tax is in order.

  • cecilhenry

    Its genocide by ethnic displacement. Call it for what it is.

    When I was in grad school I was the only white student in a class of 7. What a criminal joke.

    FTWR….

    Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians, White Countries for Everyone.

    AS Peter Hitchens recently admitted to no ones surprise:

    “We were all in favour of as much immigration as possible.

    It wasn’t because we liked immigrants, but because we didn’t like
    Britain. We saw immigrants – from anywhere – as allies against the
    staid, settled, conservative society that our country still was in the
    Sixties.”

    It was ALL about what he hated:

    Multiculturalism is worse than murder. It is worse than mass murder, being akin to genocide.

    Whites have become the ultimate refugees, lost at home, refugees in their own nations, wanderers in their own cities.

    The citizen of the first world often finds that he seems to belong less in his own country than the refugees flooding it.

    • potato78

      we like Britain. British was the first country had industrial revolution in human history.
      If you think that white genocide has happened in us through ethnic displacement.

      Then you should change us democratic system. The system is that which party can recruit more people who will win. Think about it. Why did democratic party always win recently?
      They recruited more people. Through what method? Immigration issues, which includes “propaganda: us is the greatest immigration country in the world.” majority of new immigrants would like to vote democratic party. This country has “recruited” a lot of third world people from all around world. If you want to change, change the system first.

      • QuinnTheEskimo9

        Here’s something to think about: As Mark Steyn points out, of the world’s fifty most free nations, half were once ruled by Britain and have since adopted British democracy and rule of law.

        How do you suggest we “change our democratic system” when any hint of Whites organizing is met with immediate, fierce and swift opposition?

        Britain and the US are ruled top to bottom by Maoists, Marxists, Communists, Feminazis, Communist sympathizers and useful idiots doing their bidding like the odious Biden. They have complete control of the government, media and schools. Anyone who says otherwise is a fool.

        How do you suggest we fight this powerful entrenched system that is hell-bent on destroying our race?

        “Thinking about it” ain’t gonne do it.

  • Whites Only

    Hilarious. The Chinese are so much smarter and superior than Whites, they need to go to White countries to learn instead of their own !

    See, there’s the tangible truth folks about what the real Chinese IQ is, and it has nothing to do with “test scores”.

    And guess what other so-called scores they’re bringing along:

    “Elite Asian students cheat like mad on US college applications”
    http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/asia-pacific/thailand/120103/US-college-application-fraud-asia-elite-economy-china

    • Xanthippe2

      Glad someone else is bringing up the cheating issue! I know because I went to school with them — and it doesn’t stop with college apps folks! Perhaps you should be almost as wary of the Chinese MD as the Black MD. (Although my former roommate who was one of the main organizers of the cheating Chinese may still be in jail for insurance fraud.)

    • QuinnTheEskimo9

      East Asians also get plenty of scholarships just because of their race, unlike any White student:

      http://www.scholarships.com/fi

  • potato78

    I see.
    Everyone is fall in love with dollars!!!

  • Sherman_McCoy

    I suppose they have to spend all those dollars on something. However, I find it ironic that they want to learn about economics in the country that has pretty much destroyed its economy by offshoring its factory production and tech jobs to Asia.

    Then it again, the article did mention that the Chinese students want to be with American students instead of with their own. I guess EVERYONE wants to be with whitey, at least until there is no more whitey.

  • dj2

    Back when I went to a large state university in the early 2000s the graduate level was filled with Chinese. They were very bookish and studied hard. I don’t know if they were particularly smart because I didn’t interact much with them.

    Meanwhile we load our own students with unpayable debts.

    Has the country gone mad? Oh and we come here to discuss these things, but none of us can actually do anything about it.

  • Integration…you gotta love it…

  • Bob

    I’ve worked for MBAs from Harvard and Yale and other top five schools. The degrees are not only worthless; they’re dangerous. I never met one who knew what he was doing. If the Chinese want to learn lousy business practices that destroy whatever they touch, more power to them.

    • MBlanc46

      MBAs have done more to destroy the American economy than any other group.

    • François

      Or perhaps the Chinese want to learn, what NOT to do, to avoid the mistakes that were made on this side of the Pacific?

  • Themistocles

    So basically the Chinese come over to the US to take Master’s level academics- that most Americans are not idiotic enough to bother with- because they have the money. And then dumb down (even further) business level Master’s with an inability to engage in graduate level discourse. Geez I wonder how they did their thesis? Oh I know how they want to the University’s library and copied a previous graduate student’s work. And I am sure these bright bulbs from Kwon-toon village are the exact enrichment that is keeping the US economy moving forward? Just want we need more detail oriented sperg-birds figuring out the nth way to skin a cat.