Silicon Valley Tech Cos Are Desperately Trying to Conceal How Many Minorities They’ve Hired

Megan Rose Dickey, San Francisco Chronicle, March 19, 2013

Silicon Valley tech companies, including AppleGoogle, Hewlett-Packard, IBM, and Microsoft, seem to be actively trying to hide how many minorities work for them.

In a one-and-a-half year long investigation, CNNMoney probed 20 of the most influential technology companies in the U.S., CNNMoney’s Julianne Pepitone reports.

But in the end, they only received diversity information from five companies: Cisco, Dell, eBay, Ingram Micro, and Intel.

What they found: racial minorities and women are generally underrepresented in management roles. And those roles are typically dominated by white and Asian men.

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In an attempt to get information from the remaining 17 companies, CNNMoney filed a Freedom of Information Act request. Their first request to the Equal Opportunity Commission was denied because it’s legally prohibited to release that diversity data.

So CNNMoney refiled the FOIA request to the Department of Labor. About a year later, CNNMoney received the information, but only for five companies: Cisco, Dell, eBay, Ingram Micro, and Intel.

That’s because the Labor Department can’t release that information for companies that are not federal contractors. That meant CNNMoney couldn’t access diversity data for AmazonFacebookGrouponHuluLinkedInLivingSocialNetflix, Twitter, Yelp, and Zynga.

And companies that are federal contractors are still able to block their data from being released. Apple, Google, Hewlett-Packard, IBM, and Microsoft all successfully petitioned the Department of Labor from releasing their data, saying that it would cause “competitive harm,” Pepitone writes.

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  • May I posit an alternate theory?

    What they’re really trying to cover up is NOT the “paucity” of minorities in upper management, but the glut of minorities (H-1B Asians) in the lower ranks.

    • White Mom in WDC

      Of course. Fill up the lower food chain jobs so young white men and women in America do not get the opportunity to develop the skills, rendering them unemployable. Then the little brown people will work like little hamsters stuck in the proverbial hamster wheel, racing along at warped speed to please the big white elitist ‘massa’. Elitist connected whites are our race’s own worst enemy,

      • Bill

        I’d agree with one qualification. The little brown mothers and fathers may work like hamsters, but their KIDS don’t work at all. They join gangs, commit sexual assault on girls and women, run drugs, work on grow farms, or act as coyotes. The same can be said of the faux black middle class. Parents may have a job, but the kids couldn’t care less about a job. They engage in the same past times as the little brown offspring. And when they class over territory?

        • zimriel

          H-1B kids do okay… back in India. The point of H-1B is that they don’t get mentored. People hire them on contract and send them home.

          Want to know why all the tech jobs are for “7 years experience”? That’s why. Nobody hires American citizens at the entry level.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            I went to high school with a lot of Indian kids (that might surprise the people on here, but it seems a lot of cities in the South these days are taking in these people by the thousands). The Indian kids I went to school with were a mixed bag in the brains department. Half were brighter or as bright as the brightest third of white kids. The other half were dumber than most white kids. And these are the offspring of the cream of the crop from India, remember.

          • pcmustgo

            HEARD HOUSTON IS FULL OF EAST INDIANS… I too also grew up with many East Indians in my parents social circle, but not around large populations of them… until I moved to NYC… tons here.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            NYC, to me is a third world cesspool. I have been there a few times and am very impressed with the lights, buildings, wealthy districts, all there is to do etc…nothing like it in the South. But other than that, I don’t know how you do it.

          • Katherine McChesney

            One visit to NYC was all it took for me to know I’d never want to live there.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            I wasn’t alive yet in the 70’s but when I look at photos and watch videos on what parts of that city looked like in the 70’s, 80’s and early 90’s, right after the Civil Rights movement and up until Giuliani came through and cleaned it up (as best he could), wow, I can’t believe parts of America ever looked like that.

    • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

      Indeed:

      “Asian workers now dominate Silicon Valley tech jobs”
      SAN JOSE MERCURY NEWS
      By Dan Nakaso
      November 30, 2012
      http://tinyurl.com/btv5du6

    • joesolargenius

      And you will also see this in all California government agencies , for example the courthouse or unemployment office .

      • Katherine McChesney

        Government agencies are overrun with blacks.

    • SargeInCharge

      It could be that they are trying to cover up both the lack of Blacks and Hispanics and an over representation of H1-b Asian workers. I know there have been countless articles on whether the lack of blacks and Zhispanics employed in Silicon Valley Tech companies is a sign of racism. I enjoy this passage from one article…

      “Asian Americans have traditionally fared much better in Silicon Valley and now comprise about 45 percent of the workforce, said Simard. But she said that success hasn’t translated to other minorities, who are not viewed in the same way as being more technically inclined.”

      Are those other minorities not viewed as inclined or are they actually not as inclined? I think everyone knows the answer.

    • MBlanc46

      I saw an item in (I think) the Chicago Tribune about two “entrepreneurs” who want to station a cruise ship 12 miles off the CA coast to use as a floating hotel for Asians who would only need short-term business visas instead of residency to work in Silicon Valley. Meanwhile we don’t invest in our own children to train them to do this work. It’s shameful.

      • Actually we do invest in our own children in terms of education. Except “our” children have read the tea leaves and correctly figured out there’s no STEM/CSIT career waiting for them after they finish their education in such, (because of H-xB visa Asians), so they go into other majors.

  • HadEnough

    “racial minorities and women are generally underrepresented in management roles. And those roles are typically dominated by white and Asian men”

    ___

    Fascinating. Because at all costs white males must be disparaged as self-serving white supremacists, the fact that many high-tech companies have Asian managers is ignored. And the Asians themselves are here lumped in with the hated whites. Sanity, thou art banished!

    • a multiracial individual

      Are Asians ever going to be pushed over the cliff like “White Devils” have? Will the liberals ever turn on Asians? I have been wondering this.

      • zimriel

        A good question.

        Asians, I don’t know. But *the Asians in Silicon Valley* can be sent back home. Homegrown whites (and blacks) and us multis really can’t. Sure, I can *tell* you “go back to France AND Vietnam”, or whatever your specific mix is; but we’d both know it was a stupid insult and not meant for real.

        I expect that, no, FOB Asians won’t be pushed over the cliff, at least not by liberals. They’re too useful.

      • APaige

        Yes they will turn. It will start (happening now) with minorities who are upset that somehow ‘racism’ does not hold down every minority group.

        • GeneticsareDestiny

          Yep. Asians are also beginning to get seriously angry about the harassment and bad treatment they receive from NAMs. It’s mostly blacks and Hispanics who taunt them, beat them up, assault them, rape their women, etc.

          If things stay on the same trajectory they’re on now, Asians may start getting more and more vilified as they begin to speak out about the reality of NAM behavior.

  • a multiracial individual

    Many people around here argue that race trumps all…

    This might be true. However, a reasonable argument could be made that it is actually economics that trumps all. It is not an intrinsic hostility toward Blacks and Hispanics that keeps them out of Silicon Valley, it is average IQ. If Blacks had an average IQ of 105, and Asians had an average IQ of 85, their representation would be reversed. Most businessmen (including even, racial aware white ones) want an employee that can work properly. In tech companies, that means having a certain IQ. It’s that simple. Would anyone here hire a White guy who yields $40 per hour for the company, over a Black that would yield $80 per hour for the company?

    • wattylersrevolt

      Many of us here want the asians out of our America period..I don’t care what their IQ is. I wouldn’t import even one supersmart asian. What happened when the British allowed the six samurais to have a look at British Industrial Technology in the 1860’s? Answer:Batan Death March 80 years later.

    • Bull Connor

      I just played a pick-up game of basketball. We chose sides. I picked 3 young strapping athletes and 1 short old fat white guy. We lost. But I sure felt good about my picks.

      • Tom in MI

        A pick up game is not a country.

        • a multiracial individual

          or a business…

    • GeneticsareDestiny

      This makes sense, and I don’t fault businesses for doing it, but running a country is not the same as running a business. We should send them all home, even the extremely intelligent ones. They’ll do fine in their home countries with their high-IQs.

      People simply like being around their own kind. I know I feel more comfortable around a lower-IQ white than a high-IQ Asian, and I’m sure the Asians feel the same. There’s no need to go against natural human instincts just to inch up profits a little.

      • a multiracial individual

        That’s strange, I felt the opposite. I tend to get along with most high IQ people (they are willing to have excellent conversations).

        When arguing with a liberal that you are opposed to immigration (especially from third world countries) express your concerd about contributing to the “brain drain” of that nation. Their eyes will light up, especially because 2 seconds earlier they thought you were just some “racist.” Also, it happens to be true. If all engineers, doctors, etc. sayed in Nigeria the place would still not be a paradise, but they would be better off than they are now.

  • The__Bobster

    I know of certain tech companies that hire low-IQ Bantus as furniture. They sit at their desks shelling peanuts and peeling bannas while the White employees have to work twice as hard to make up for their lack of production.

    Small wonder that the rest of the world considers us a laughing stock.

    • zimriel

      I worked at a company that rubber-roomed a (white) gay guy this way. Couldn’t fire him. Just let him set around yakking on the phone with his “girl-friend!”‘s and his honey.

    • APaige

      Is that what they do in Human Resources these days?

    • Dr. X

      This is also widely the case in academia. Universities hire blacks to teach “African American Studies” or serve as “Vice President of Diversity and Equity.” Meanwhile brillant Asians and whites actually get grants and do research. Blacks sit around and talk about Jim Crow and the “African diaspora” and call it “academic work.” I might also add that Michelle Obama had such a job at the University of Chicago, acting as “Vice President for Diversity” or some such thing — after voluntrarily surrendering her law license! She was paid about $100,000 and was magically given a raise of $200k per annum after her husband was elected to the Senate. Every time I see Michelle dancing with some comedian dressed in drag or handing out Oscars I think “Some white with 1600 on his SATs and an IQ of 130 was denied admission into Harvard Law so she could get in.”

      • MBlanc46

        Michelle Obama worked at the U of C Hospitals in community relations.

      • Bob Wallace

        Michelle Obama made $300,000 a year and when she quit her position was eliminated. She had to surrender her law license for insurance fraud, and Barak had to surrender his for lying on his law application.

      • Felix_M

        Graduate degrees in Chicano Studies or Black Studies are poor preparation for Silicon Valley.

    • NeanderthalDNA

      This is kind of funny. Can you imagine Cisco or any of these guys actually putting anyone not qualified in any position of responsibility? I mean this is stuff you can’t BS through, use your “social intelligence” to maneuver. This is a real “rubicon” moment, eh?

      Do the liblefties politicos really intend to foist incompetents into the last vestiges of merit and competence? Do the comfortably and fashionably cool techies place substandard minorities in position where they can really eff things up? Give them handlers who do the real work?

      Something’s gotta break. When the big techie firms see how diversity is going to ruin them it will be interesting the response.

      • MBlanc46

        There are plenty of minorities in systems, but they’re Indians.

        • NeanderthalDNA

          Who appear to me to have earned their jobs. But we know who the labor department wants polluting the water. They want all private enterprise to devolve to the incompetence of our “civil service”.

          Merit bad – diversity good. No matter the waste, no matter the True results.

          • The__Bobster

            Bull. The H1-b’s are inferior to American engineers. They are just younger and cheaper. The fact that they are virtual slaves who can’t leave the company doesn’t hurt either.

        • RisingReich

          Yeah and they are a real pain I the ass if you have to deal with them. God forbid you get stuck sitting next to them. They smell to high heaven.

    • StillModerated

      Hey, Bobster! How much do you want to bet that the defective mortar round which killed Marines in Nevada was assembled by an affirmative action hire?

  • Bill

    I think they mean how many Hindus and Chinese. They don’t hire many Mexicans in Silicon Valley as we mean it when referred to that way.

    • Bobby

      Bill, your’e right and I didn’t mean Mexicans being used by Silicon Valley etc. But people like Jeff Hawkins, inventor of the Palm Pilot,etc. and most of the other Silicon valley entrepreneurs, are for amnesty and even now constantly pushing to support illegal aliens in California’s universities, OVER student citizens. They are just another group of pathological people on the left, the corporate left. Some Americans have been brainwashed by the left, to actually believe the CEO’s of big corporations are all Republicans. Nope, the fact is, most of them are Democrats, especially in the big Multi-National corporations. All of them, are for diversity and putting European -American students and youths, DEAD LAST. It’s truly sad, that so many European-Americans are so deluded about what is occurring right under their noses.

      • jambi19

        Wall-street and corporate law firms are dominated by Democrats. It is because Democrats are more likely to give them taxpayer $$$

  • Funruffian

    The Reason whites and Asians fill the managerial roles is because they are the most productive and reliable.

  • wattylersrevolt

    The major crime of subhuman scum such as Bill Gates and his subhuman scum buddies is that for reasons of monumental greed they are destroying who knows how many centuries of Native Born White American tech experience…future genreations of Native Born White American tech experience that will never be developed included. Not only that,but these vile subhuman scum multimillionaires have enabled the asian invader to participate in the destruction of centuries of Native Born White American Engineering experience..this is most definitely in the realm of genocide.

    One of Bill Gates’ comrades in the genocide campaign…Michael Bloomberg…was listed as the 13th wealthiest person on the planet at 29 billions dollars. It really is an extermination campaign..exterminate any Native Born White American..family…community…who is in favor of a high wage economy. It is no more complicated than this.

    • Bloomberg’s fortune increased from 22 gigabucks to 27 gigabucks in 2012. This means his fortune grew by $5 billion. Just that marginal growth in one year would make him the 248th richest person in the world, and is by itself 20 times more than Mitt Romney’s total fortune.

    • CourtneyfromAlabama

      You summed up my thoughts perfectly. This is why Asian immigration irritates me more than “lower-IQed” immigration. It is more threatening, and also far more insulting for white people. White people were doing fine for centuries , being the world’s top innovators, and engineers. Now, by letting these people in, we are acting as if none of that ever happened. It sickens me, and it is a slap in the face to all the brilliant minds of our past.

      • GeneticsareDestiny

        This. And not only does it destroy the futures of white children and insult our ancestors’ ingenuity, the Asians (Indians especially) don’t even tend to be that good. The average American tech worker is much better at his job than the average Indian. The American also attended a real, accredited tech school, whereas the Indian likely just bribed someone for his degree.

  • SargeInCharge

    A quick review of the companies and the Silicon Valley culture in general reflects that most of these companies hiring few black and Hiapanic candidates (rightly so based on ability) are Liberal companies that contribute to the Democrat Party.

    • pcmustgo

      THINK ABOUT HOW FEW BLACKS AND LATINOS EVEN BEGIN TO QUALIFY… 50% drop out of high school. What percent get any computer type 4 year degree?

      Come on now… they search low and far, but there just aren’t that many blacks and latins with those kind of skills.

  • MekongDelta69

    “Diversity for thee, but not for me.”

    Of course they’re going to hire the smartest people. What sane person/company wouldn’t?

    They throw a few tokens in the front office and babble about DIE-versity and tolerance and multiculturalism; put up posters with black and brown faces all over their offices; give big sums to all leftist minority shakedown artists and groups… but in the end, they do what they have to do to make money.

  • GM (Australia)

    I would suggest that for her next assignment this journalist should travel to South Korea and do a report on diversity hiring at Samsung Electronics Corporation..

  • Bobby

    Oh, I’ve long known how traitorous and treacherous the Silicon Valley nerds are. I have two long time friends that have told me, that those clowns support amnesty for border criminals, unlimited Indian and Asian immigration,and love to replace the white workers that made Bill Gates, Larry Ellison, and so many of these other “American” Entreprenuers fillthy rich.
    So, the relevant question is, why in the hell do European-Americans continue to support these grade A A-h—s when they buy their products? STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES. Tell your friends, family, and others not to support silicon valley in any way, because supporting traitors is bad for European-Americans, whom these firms HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO HATE.

  • Shattered

    Lots of smart asians and Indians culled from the cream of the crop on work visas but that’s about all.

    • The__Bobster

      They are mediocre at best. Otherwise they’d qualify for O-1 visas instead of the common H1-b variety.

      • Shattered

        They are not mediocre but rather the very cream culled from a population of 2,585,621,960 people (the combined populations of India and China). The current H1B visa limitation is 65,000 people per fiscal year and H1B visas are good for up to 6 years. The number of 0-1 visas is far fewer though you are right that the bar is far higher and they theoritically can last however long the employer needs them. So 0-1 visas are utilized for geniuses needed for very long periods of time and H1B visas for the cream of the crop needed for projects of up to six years.

  • Jim Bob Lassiter

    Well Bill?? Well Melinda?? Well EEOC?? Don’t y’all think it’s about time to start talkin’ about “spreadin’ deh wealth”?

  • Jim Bob Lassiter

    Well Bill?? Well Melinda?? Well EEOC?? Don’t y’all think it’s about time to start talkin’ about “spreadin’ deh wealth”?

  • Fed Up

    Why hire a White American professional. . . if you can hire an immigrant fresh from India, China or Korea? The immigrant(s) more than willing to work for compensation far below that of a White American trying to support a family, paying his bills, his medical insurance and even educational loans.

    Of course the Silicon Valley rats calling themselves CEOs are unwilling to admit an unpalatable TRUTH. Because it would give their corporations a bad name, domestically.

  • StillModerated

    At many Fortune 500 compaies, there’s usually a light-skinned black with a degree from Morehouse working as “human resource director.”

  • potato78

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    Koldo (Basque, Spain) and Kitty (Hebei) left the daily grind of the big city to live the
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    rock climb, swim, hike, and play with their dog Yoshi. But to arrive at
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    http://www.chinasmack.com/2012/features/european-chinese-couples-koldo-and-kitty.html

  • chocolate rain

    Firstly the amount of pseudo-darwinistic racial stereotyping from commentators is shocking. It is ironic that people think they’re revealing some lost truth by regurgitating the same racist descriptions of groups that have been around for close to 300 years. The plethora of such knee-jerk responses in themselves are revealing of why certain groups are not benefiting from the tech boom.

    Secondly, what is troubling is that blacks, latinos and women while gaining ground in the tech industry nationally these groups have lost ground in Silicon Valley–a place that likes to pride itself on being a meritocracy.

    Thirdly, of the groups that are supposedly benefiting from the tech boom I think it would interesting to see of break of the percentages of H1-visas, who is doing the “grunt-work”, and who is in management.

    Lastly, study after study comes out that reveals that equally qualified resumes from minorities get short shrift, that some minority groups face a tougher time getting an interview than white men who have gone to prison. That being said, it has become an open secret that tech now discriminates against older workers, and women have commented on sexism and other forms of discrimination. Why then, would it be so hard to believe that discriminates against certain minority groups too?