Some Patients Refuse to See Doctors of Different Race

Newsmax, February 22, 2013

It’s been called one of medicine’s “open secrets”—allowing patients to refuse treatment by a doctor or nurse of another race.

In the latest example, a white man with a swastika tattoo insisted that black nurses not be allowed to touch his newborn. Now two black nurses are suing the hospital, claiming it bowed to his illegal demands.

The Michigan cases are among several lawsuits filed in recent years that highlight this seldom-discussed issue, which quietly persists almost 60 years after the start of the civil rights movement.

The American Medical Association’s ethics code bars doctors from refusing to treat people based on race, gender and other criteria, but there are no specific policies for handling race-based requests from patients.


Tonya Battle, a veteran nurse at Flint’s Hurley Medical Center, filed the first complaint against the hospital and a nursing manager, claiming a note posted on an assignment clipboard read, “No African-American nurse to take care of baby.” She says the note was later removed but black nurses weren’t assigned to care for the baby for about a month because of their race.

That case is now a federal lawsuit. In a statement earlier this week, Hurley President Melany Gavulic denied Battle’s claim, saying the father was told that his request could not be granted. Gavulic said the swastika tattoo “created anger and outrage in our staff,” and supervisors raised safety concerns.


The Michigan cases follow a 2010 decision by the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which held that the federal Civil Rights Act prohibits nursing homes from making staffing decisions for nursing assistants based on residents’ racial preferences. The ruling stemmed from a lawsuit filed by a black nursing assistant who sued her employer for racial discrimination.


Fordham University law professor Kimani Paul-Emile said she suspects nurses file more discrimination suits than doctors.

“With nurses and other sorts of staff, the hospital is telling them they can or cannot do something,” she said. “That might go to why you might see more lawsuits brought by nurses.”

She wrote an article last year in the UCLA Law Review titled “Patients’ Racial Preferences and the Medical Culture of Accommodation.” It was the source of the “open secrets” phrase.

Paul-Emile’s research cited a 2007 study at the University of Michigan Health System and others on how physicians respond to patients’ requests to be assigned providers of the same gender, race or religion.

The survey of emergency physicians found patients often make such requests, and they are routinely accommodated. A third of doctors who responded said they felt patients perceive better care from providers of shared demographics, with racial matches considered more important than gender or religion.


Another study she cited found that patient requests for care by a physician are most often accommodated when made by racial minority patients.


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  • MobyWhite

    Soon, Whites will be assigned to doctors based on racial incompatibility, and White doctors will be forced to see only the darkest of dark.

    News from the Institutionalized Race War: Racial Reconciliation starts with No Whites Allowed

    Blacks are all Prophets, and now have enough Critical Mass to crush White privilege into oblivion.

    AmRenners are all Prophets, because we can see the future…

    Group charts hope for church’s multicultural future

    The event, which was open only to members of under-represented racial/ethnic
    groups (Africans, African Americans, Asians, Hispanics and Native Americans),
    was a follow-up to a Jan. 9-11, 2011, meeting in Tampa, Fla., in which
    participants freely discussed their experiences in the church. As in Tampa,
    attendees in Leesburg rekindled and developed relationships as they discussed
    challenges they share in common. But they focused mainly on developing concrete
    ways to move forward the broader church’s longtime efforts to embrace racial
    reconciliation and diversity.

    “People of color, don’t lose your prophetic voice,” Soto Albrecht said. “We have moved from tokenism. We have arrived at a critical mass (including at leadership levels within the church). Can we now produce systematic changes? I want to believe and have faith in God that we can.”

  • MekongDelta69

    Another study she cited found that patient requests for care by a physician are most often accommodated when made by racial minority patients.

    Well of course. As with everything else in our degraded ‘modern’ culture.

    I would never go to an affirmative action doctor. You have a better chance at winning the Lottery than getting the one in a million who actually deserved to be there, from the rest of the A.A. gene pool.

    No thanks – I’d rather buy a Lottery ticket.

  • Viv Jasper

    Trips to the doctor are personal business, and I’m more comfortable with my own race. Even if I know for a fact that a minority doctor is qualified, I don’t want to remove clothing, have various body parts looked at, and discuss private matters in the presence of a non-white. What’s wrong with that?

    • whiteuncleruckus

      There is absolutely nothing wrong with that at all whatsoever.

      • GM (Australia)

        Just like we should (and presently do have) the right to say who can or can not come into our house to do repairs, service our car or any other service we may need except of course medication and education.

    • OnGuard

      Key word: qualified. Affirmative action and quotas in medical schools and hiring set up a situation where people justifiably question the qualifications of minorities. Didn’t I read some articles in Amren re. disproportinate numbers of minorities in the field of medicine were found guilty of malpractice and deaths? And, it is no secret that many minorities harbor grudges against whites; even schools are teaching them to do that!! I don’t intend to be the victum of someone’s grudge against my race!

  • Lou

    It is part of evolution’s hard wiring that children have yoked to their mother’s face and expressions and their father’s—a racially different face to a child of several months of age
    is understandably alien. It might be that at young ages, smell is an also highly enabled sense
    that detects something alien in the odor of a person of a different race.

    • btm

      This is so true about smell. My dog would go berserk if a black person walked past our property, but never uttered a sound if a white passed by. My previous dog was a German Shepherd and his hackles on the back of his neck would go up. No black person ever gave me trouble because of the dogs presence.

      • rebellisMMXII

        I was at a dog park and a gal actually told me that she thought her dog was racist. LOL….

        • Pop Culture Lover

          Actually, there was a movie called “white Dog” about a racist dog that was trained to attack Black people. It starred Kristy McNichol.

  • John

    Affirmative action/ quota / programs have resulted in an undue number of Black physicians
    getting through medical school and getting licensed who simply manage to squeeze through
    the requirements. Knowing nothing else than that you are going to see a Black M.D. or D.O.,
    assume you’re dealing merely with someone who is a florid mediocrity.

    • Ed_NY

      Michael Jackson chose an A.A. doctor. Problem is Michael is no longer with us to fill out the performance review of his doctor.

      • crystalevans

        This doctor also treated singer James Brown.

        • bigone4u

          This doctor is in prison! Finally!

      • Tucker

        Elvis had a Greek doctor, who, while being ‘White’, played along with the weaknesses of his primarily patient and wrote him prescriptions for assorted highly addictive and dangerous narcotics, which eventually contributed o the premature death of his patient.

        This isn’t an endorsement of black or other non-white doctors, but simply a reminder that incompetence and malfeasance also can exist among our own racial stock.

        Probably at a far less common rate, however.

        • Funruffian

          Dr. Nick?? This is the first time I heard about that guy in years. Yea, many believe he was responsible for Elvis’ death and his addiction to drugs.

    • crystalevans

      What about someone is board certified. That is what I look at in choosing a doctor. In order to become board certified, a doctor must pass an exam in their specialty.

  • Jss

    Does anybody else think the “swastika tattoo” thing is just not true”

    • MAJ

      Who cares if he actually did have a swastika tattoo? What does that have to do with anything? What if the guy had a tattoo of MLK? Would that make it okay?

      • Jss

        No of course not, but what the article is implying is if you don’t want your loved ones in the care of trayvon and shawanda that your like somebody who “has a swatstika tattoo”.

        The article is pulling the “just compare them to Nazis” trick. That’s why I think it’s fake.

        • The__Bobster

          We know what group loves to do that.

          • Daisy

            The same group has always made it a point to only see their *own* doctors,* yet if we did that as whites we’d be accused of wearing swastikas. Since I can choose among general MD’s as opposed to specialists, I purposely see a white male, not a member of the tribe. I like his philosophy better, and I believe in supporting my own ethnicity especially when they’re being crowded out by the tribe by politics in the medical field. Some of the members at that practice have made incompetent diagnoses over things as trivial as poison ivy while insisting they’re geniuses.

    • Tom in MI

      This case has been settled with the black nurse winning the ghetto lottery. The hospital is not discussing the case and it’s unclear what really happened.

      It was first stated that the tattoo looked like a swastika, but no real description was given. The person who asked that black nurses not be allowed to care for his baby was not named or even identified as white. Perhaps he was Latino or Middle Eastern. The nurse supervisor who allegedly wrote the note saying African Americans were not to care for the baby was not identified as black or white.

      When I first read the story and saw a picture of the note, I wondered if the nurse made up the story and wrote the note herself.

      Anyway, the case was very quickly settled and neither side will discuss it any further.

      • Jss

        Thanks for the info. I suspected as much. Basically another hoax.

  • The__Bobster

    Due to a medical emergency on a weekend, I was once treated by a Zulu princess “doctor”. After wasting a hour trying to diagnose a condition that I had already accurately diagnosed, she gave up and sent me to an emergency room, where they wasted another six hours of my time.

  • Tom Iron

    Years ago, Redd Foxx did a skit on his “Sanford and Son” tv show where he jumped out of a dentists chair when a black dentist came in to work on his teeth. He said everyone knows dentists are Jewish. That a black guy wasn’t a dentist. it was really funny.

    • crystalevans

      I remember that skit so well. Fred Sanford wanted a white dentist because a black one got his credentials from city college. It turned out that the white dentist that he saw was the one that got his credentials from city college and the black dentist was legit.

      • unadorned

        “It turned out that the white dentist that he saw was the one that got his credentials from city college and the black dentist was legit.”
        Only in the fantasy land of TV.

        • Tom Iron

          Yep, but we’re not talking about that. We’re talking perception…

  • If becoming a doctor or nurse was purely on merit than it wouldn’t be such a big deal but with affirmative action real questions are raised about the quality of treatment.

  • jay11

    Don’t they say that black boys can only learn in school if the teacher is black? Then they create special government programs, preferences and incentives to find black teachers. Strangely, this is not called racism, but if you substituted white for black in my above sentence, it would be called racist and evil. For the life of me I do not understand liberal logic.
    At the end of the day, it seems that all the evidence seems to be screaming that different races, religions and cultures just cannot live together after all. Evidence? Every country in the world outside the white world is fractured with internal conflicts over ethnic/ racial/ linguistic and cultural fault lines. Some are more violent conflicts than other. In the white world, we are being flooded with non-whites all over the place, and the rumblings of new non-white power centers and aspirations for self-control are growing by the day.

    • bigone4u

      Liberalism isn’t logic, it’s mental illness.

  • James

    I will NOT let a minority doctor touch me. I had to go to the ER last year and they gave me a little Vietnamese doctor. Aside from the fact he could not even speak English at a conversational level, he seemed completely bewildered by my injury, a small chemical burn and it quickly became apparent that I knew more about it than he did. My girlfriend , an attorney, was with me and was as incredulous as I was that someone that incompetent was working in an ER. God’s mercy on any poor soul that has this idiot in a critical situation. A definite product of quotas and Affirmative Action.

    • crystalevans

      Remember Asians tend to well in Math and science because they can memorize formulas. This guy probably did that and probably did poorly in English. What if he was an American born Asian that spoke excellent English, would you have a problem with that?

      • GM (Australia)

        Yes (In the Australian context) I would and do have a problem with that, they simply should not be here, in Canada, NZ, the UK or in your country. Unless the Dr was absolutely exceptional I would prefer to be seen by someone I can relate to.

        • Laura

          I agree with you. I had to use an Indian gynecologist 30 years ago when my husband was in the Air Force. I was never sure if she understood what I was saying to her — she would just say “yes, yes, yes” no matter what I told her. Her speech was also very difficult to understand. Furthermore, a huge percentage of the insurance fraud is done by the Third World doctors who practice here, and I wound never give my insurance information to one of them. Third World dentists have also been caught in massive insurance fraud.

      • plaintruthforidiots

        Oh look, it’s our resident “Asians are better than blacks” idiot…

    • joesolargenius

      I suffered a heart attack last year while working in a meat processing plant where a gang of illegal aliens and their supervisor caused me to be harmed through chemical poisoning and respiratory protection violations and at the Hospital a black doctor promised he would not place anything permanent inside of me if I agreed to an Angioplasty . During the procedure he immediately put a Stent in my Artery and then left it closed thus narrowing the space in my artery for the blood to flow through , he also never did the Angioplasty . But the worst thing he did was to use the balloon that the Stent came on to push large amounts of Plaque upwards towards my heart , there is now a large glob of that stuck in my neck and little pieces of that substance is lodging in my brain and will soon cause me to have a stroke or die ! I subpoenaed him for my workers comp hearing and he convinced the Black woman in charge of the Industrial Commission to sabotage my case so that he would not have to testify . He also falsified my medical records so that my employer would have an excuse to refuse my claim for compensation thus leaving me without any income while recovering from my injuries. I have reported him to the FBI and there is also an investigation by the State medical board going on whom has the right to request the attorney general to get involved but their lead investigator is a black woman as well.During my investigation I found out that there was another black doctor in that practice whom killed a 24 year old white girl just a few months before by doing the same thing to her. Because new legislation was passed a few months before my injury limiting malpractice lawsuits to a maxium of $500,000 in this state I have been turned down by numerous lawyers whom all sent me a letter asking me to help repeal that law as it cost $200,000 to take this case to court.I have contacted many politicians both republican and democrat but have only received lip service from them , we need to organize and start going after those whom use their position to harm us and at least take their jobs away from them !

      • Funruffian

        This should serve as a lesson to everyone. Never trust a Black surgeon. I have heard that many Black patients prefer a White doctor of one of color. Even they know that their own race is rarely competent and skilled to do delicate procedures. My father was a surgeon and toward the end of his career had a Black doctor work in his practice. Things changed in my dad’s practice due to political and PC pressure building up against him for years.

      • Tom in MI

        The same thing happened to my twin brother.

      • Brian

        We’ve had similar things happen in our area.
        A Nurse told me that AA pressure has pushed ‘Doctors’ so unqualified and incompetent into positions of responsibility, that these ‘Doctors’ are always asking the Nurses’ advice on what to do. She told us the Death rate at her hospital has risen significantly as a result.

      • bigone4u

        With Obamacare the medical system will just get worse. You are finding out, as I have, that there is no justice in Amerika anymore, when a case involves the white person calling out a minority person for their lies and incompetence.

        • Tucker

          I turned on the radio a few days ago and the station was broadcasting news, and I heard a very brief audio clip of Obongo making a speech somewhere, and I heard him say: ‘No one’s child should have their future determined by the size of their parent’s paycheck’.

          I was then treated to the sound of hysterical applause, as the audience he was speaking to dutifully responded to the blinking ‘Applause Now’ sign which was strategically positioned next to the teleprompter that he was reading from.

          From this, I surmised several things. First, he was either talking to an auditorium which consisted of massive numbers of blacks and other parasitic minorities, or, he was up in Iowa in lily white corn country – speaking before an audience of sod-busting, White race traitors who’s entire understanding of, and experience with, diversity and black behavior consists of them spending a hour or two in front of their TV watching reruns of the old Cosby Show.

          Secondly, anyone who believes that one’s own children should be unaffected by the size of the parent’s paycheck and corresponding scarcity of financial resources – evidently believes that the paychecks of other people, who have their own families and children’s needs to be concerned about, should be stolen from them via Communist oriented income redistribution programs and then used to pay for the endless number of demands of the parasitic, less ambitious, less talented, less capable and less intelligent lower class leeches.

          Incidentally, if RINO Rubio and RINO rat McCain succeed in cutting a deal with Obongo and the DemonCrats and pass amnesty for the 30-40 million illegal aliens, which will surely include very liberal family reunification provisions that will let those 30-40 million non-white illegal aliens import every non-white member of their family tree, who will in turn, then import every member from their extended family tree – every single one of those non-whites will immediately be eligible for Affirmative Action preferences over Whites and will immediately be eligible for tax payer provided subsidies for ObamaCare and, per Obongo’s recent speech – any non-white crumb crunchers that they produce (and non-whites are very, very prolific in this regard) will not be permitted to have their futures determined by the size of their fruit picking parent’s paychecks, but instead will have a future where they will be given a permanent fang hold on the paychecks and resources of White European people.

          Light the switchboard up, folks. No amnesty under ANY circumstances. Deportation is the ONLY thing we support.

          • GM (Australia)

            Hello Tucker, with a speech like that you should be in politics rallying all the troops. You are certainly across all the hypocrisy and double standards in both sides of politics and the stupidity of most of the people out there who can not or don’t want to see what is happening.

          • OnGuard

            Well put! Let me add to your comments; top health care officials are concerned about the HUGE crisis and costs coming with the increasing minority population. About half of Hispanics have or will have diabetes, about one in three blacks; it is mostly self-induced (bad diet, obesity and lack of exercise) and causes most blindness, amputations, kidney failure and other expensive to treat problems! Then the “victum” goes on disability, c/o the taxpayer (an increasing minority)! Isn’t diversity grand?!

      • welcome to third world america, we will all be facing similar scenarios

    • GM (Australia)

      Your story James (but without the attorney girlfriend) is probably repeated thousands of times every day in emergency departments throughout the whole western world. Why do we put up with it? (I have suffered at their hands also, Indians are the worst offenders here in Oz)

      • Temp8

        What did the Indians do?

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    • Thor Bonham

      The reason you’re writing in all caps ? We’re no affirmative action readers here, ya know? We can understand the English language just fine without caps..

  • Triarius

    But it is okay for Muslim men in Dearborn, MI to ban male doctors and nurses from touching their wives, or even being in the same room. Seems about right.

  • guest

    When your health is at stake, you want to see a real medical professional, not some affirmative action quota.

  • JohnEngelman

    Whenever I a need a doctor I look for someone with a Jewish sounding name. That way I know I am getting quality.

    • Diamond_Lil

      When I went to a doctor with a Jewish last name, I received a breast exam when the medical issue concerned my leg. When he said he also needed to conduct a pelvic exam, I said No thanks, I want doctor not a perv, and promptly walked out and complained to my insurance company.

    • gemjunior

      I don’t specifically look for Jewish doctors, even though they are generally dependable and good at what they do. If it’s a very complicated surgery, I ask the doctor how many times they’ve done the operation and pick the one with the most experience and the least complications in their cases. As for the racial component of the doctor for regular primary care and minor isssues, I prefer a White gentile because most of us perfer to be cared for by someone similar to them. Also, Whites don’t have that sense of entitlement that causes them to look down on their patients or talk down to them because they believe they come from a small, select group with the ultimate proteted status. Oh, and I know they won’t try to bill the insurance company for more than the treatment costs.

    • stewardofthemystery

      I can somewhat agree with you on that.

      • Tucker

        Neither you or Engelman have spent any appreciable amount of time reviewing what the Babylonian Talmud advises, with regards to gentiles – or, else I suspect both of you would rethink your position.

    • Funruffian

      My dad was a renowned Eye-surgeon for 31 years. He hired a Jewish guy to work in his practice and ended up firing him after 8 months. This Jewish doctor garnered much distruct from his patients and he would make flippant comments like, “Don’t blame me if you lose your eyesight.” The patients began to complain about him to my dad. This guy even sent my dad a bill requesting a payment for this bogus contraption that tested Glaucoma. It didn’t work and my dad was upset about this bill he sent. The guy later apologized for his aggressive sales tactics. But after much deliberation and grievances from the patients my dad finally gave the doctor a phone call. ‘What would you do if you had an employee who was giving you problems and putting your business in jeopardy?” The guy replied, “I assume you are talking about me.” My dad never saw the guy again. This was in the 80’s and my dad was paying him $12,000 per month which was a generous probationary salary. In this case, it wasn’t a good investment.

  • bigone4u

    If liberals like Hurley President Melany Gavulic are intimidated by a swastike tattoo, then as much as I hate tattoos I’ll think about getting one. Every wimpy, geeky white guy like me should have one I suppose. It seems threats and intimidation are the only means by which white persons get any respect these days. It’s probably worse for white women.

    • Tom in MI

      Was it really a swastika? Hurley Hospital is in a black section of Flint and I find it hard to believe that a man would walk into the nursery and approach a black nurse on duty and tell her that he “needs” to see her supervisor, and then roll up his sleeve and show the supervisor his “swastika” tattoo and demand that no African American nurse care for his baby.

      This version instantly made headline news on TV and in the press. Blacks immediately began protesting and the hospital caved in.

  • whiteyyyyy

    I like him already, why let blacks near your child. There’s a high probability they’re either incompetent or racist.

  • Son of Abraham

    Consider this: Do you want a black doctor poking around inside your mother or your wife?

  • Non Humans

    I work in medicine as a CAT Scan Tech, and have worked all over the southeast. I can tell you with utter certainty that by far and by large that the worst physicians that I have worked for were non-humans.
    Alot of it is for the very reasons that we discuss here on these boards everyday: Low IQ’s, Quota Fulfillments, AA, lack of motivation, sense of entitlement, etc. Most of them are just very dim when it comes to critical thinking that is required in everyday medicine. They also lack a great deal of common sense. As far as race goes, some of the best that I have worked for have been Asians or (Mainly) Japanese, Whites, and a select few from India and the Middle East (Saudis and Israelis).
    On the occasions that I seek medical care, I have found it very prudent to research my physician before any office visits. What I have observed as traits of excellent physicians are of the old-school country Dr types, ones that lean more towards common-sense medicine, and the ones who regard you as a friend rather than a source of income, and are willing to spend some real time getting to know you. Most importantly, though, it comes down to a realization that each Dr has their own style, and your best care will come from ones whose style matches your expectations of care.
    It’s my personal opinion that patients should have the right to choose their providers and caregivers based on any criteria they happen to choose. I wouldn’t let a nonhuman care for me or any of mine. I also feel that nonhumans have no business whatsoever seeking care in our healthcare system. That is what veterinarians, the Humane Society, and zookeepers are for. I have seen plenty in my career to reinforce that last statement, especially during my tour of duty through A T Hell.

  • Funruffian

    People who turn down doctors or nurses based on racial biases are well within their rights. A newborn infant is fragile and delicate to harsh and careless handling. If I were to make a quick decision on child’s well-being it would be to entrust the hand’s of someone I felt comfortable with.

  • George

    When it comes to doctors, you can (and should!) always insist that the doctor be board certified in the field of treatment.

    Minorities may be let in to traditionally black schools of medicine, or affirmative action admittance at medical school, but the tests to be board certified in a field of medicine are much more restrictive. As a result, far fewer immigrants or blacks can meet the criteria for certification.

    As for nursing staff, if they won’t accomodate the quite reasonable request not to be treated by sub-par nurses of colour, a few well-placed, loud epithets, along with comments about affirmative action, IQ of 85, incompetence, mental age of a 12 year old white person, etc, will generally ensure that your request will, in the end, be accomodated quite willingly.

    • bigone4u

      Maybe I’m paranoid, but I fear that making a fuss about minority doctors or nurses might get you killed by an orderly or assistant of that same minority. Thanks for the tip about board certification.

      • GM (Australia)

        I don’t think you are paranoid, I think you are very perceptive, It is our fear and their intimidation at every level that let this whole absurd situation come into place.

      • OnGuard

        Your comment reminds me of working in a nursing home with black nurse’s aide. They were often quite rough, rude and uncaring with the white patients, especially the ones that weren’t cognizant and could not complain. I think it was their chance to “get back at whitey”. Like Eldridge Cleaver, in his book Soul on Ice, written while in prison for rape; he said he raped white women to get revenge on the white man.

      • rebellisMMXII

        You hit that on the head…my thoughts exactly. I’m not sure how to handle it because they literally have your life in their hands. Several years ago, I had meningitis and was in no condition to look after myself, but I had a girlfriend watching and writing down (like a journal) EVERYTHING that was done or given to me. She read the IV bags, noted my medication schedules…as I said…everything. I can only think that what my partner did is at least one solution to this dangerous problem.

  • Angry White Woman

    “The survey of emergency physicians found patients often make such requests, and they are routinely accommodated. A third of doctors who responded said they felt patients perceive better care from providers of shared demographics, with racial matches considered more important than gender or religion.”

    Of course they do. I don’t want any black person touching me, and I certainly don’t want a black man touching me–anywhere, for anything. If a non-white came into the exam room, introduced him-or-herself as the doctor, I would simply, politely and civilly tell them I had changed my mind about availing myself of their services, thank you and goodbye. There is no reason to be rude, offensive or make a scene. Usually a physician will understand. If they don’t, all the more reason not to let them get within touching distance of your body!

  • LHathaway

    “she gave up and sent me to an emergency room”

    Tell us more. Could be an interesting tale. To Jonn Engleman. . haha

  • LHathaway

    I think the main thing nurses need training for is learning how to care for black babies. . .

  • LA times has a collection of stories about the King-Harbor medical center, they give some insight as to how blacks run a medical center. If you were open to a black doctor, you may change your mind after reading these stories. Note that rep. Maxine Waters was able to funnel hundreds of millions in tax dollars into the floundering hospital despite there being no hope of the hospital keeping it’s accreditation. Tossing money down a black hole!,0,5651209.storygallery

  • Anyone think that there is some clause buried deep in the affordable care act that takes away your ability to choose your physician? What an easy way to extend afro-action from the employers to the consumers

  • freddy_hills

    There are really 3 issues when it comes to doctors and nurses. The first is that medical care is a personal thing and patients should have the right to choose their doctors and nurses based on the basis of race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, country of origin and everything else the EEOC says you’re not supposed to discriminate on the basis of. It’s one thing to tell an employer they can’t discriminate but its quite another to tell that to a sick patient.

    The second is that affirmative action guarantees that the average black and hispanic doctors will be less capable.

    And, third, its a LOT harder to get into a medical school in the US than other countries. So that also guarantees the average foreign doctor will be less competent.

    The average has nothing to do with the individual. There may very well be outstanding doctors who are black, hispanic or foreign. But I don’t know those doctors individually. So unless I get reassurance from other doctors that they are the best in their field I’m going to have to prefer either a white or asian doctor from the US.

    • sickandtired

      I refuse to be seen by a doctor I don’t trust.
      Now, the criteria may be different for different people, but we all still have that right.
      Where I live, we have very very few black doctors, but we have many Indians, pakistanis, etc..
      There are some of them I refuse to see as well.

  • Thor Bonham

    . . . but when whites do it is “hatred.”
    No it’s not , it’s common sense .. Who the heck is willing to put their life in the hands of a black

    doctor that got there through affirmative action ?? Not me, certainly ..

  • Token Finn

    I read a national news article recently, which stated that it is illegal for cab service providers to heed the customer’s request of being assigned a white driver. The article meekly speculated about people having “bad experiences” and tried to brush them off as chance. It’s very revealing that it made no mention of people wanting to have a NON-white driver and moan the racism in that.

  • Fed Up

    Well, would YOU want to be treated by an Affirmative Action doctor? If so, good luck!

  • bluffcreek1967

    I absolutely refuse to have a doctor that’s different from my race. If they’re black, I’m thinking he or she probably got into medical school through AA or that they might be incompetent. They might even be smarter than the average black, but I tend to think they’re not the best of the best – and if I have a choice in my own health, I want only the best!

    The highest calibre of physicians tend to be white doctors. Asians are not too bad if they’re American or European born. But if they come from their original countries, I’m not interested. If they’re Jewish, that’s fine with me. I don’t care what others think of their social or political leanings. The truth is, they’re highly intelligent and educated and they tend to be some of the best physicians in the world.

    I would not want a Mexican or Indian (native or otherwise) doctor caring for me or my children if I could at all prevent it. Obviously, in the course of an emergency, I may not have such a choice. But otherwise, I will always choose the white doctor that is most qualified.

  • Some Guy

    Gee…I wonder why?
    A black gynecologist who was recently fired for secretly filming his female patients was found dead in his Maryland home after committing suicide.

  • Moe

    Aren’t most black doctors (sic) Witch Doctors?
    They all seem to have a shrunken head (on their shoulders)?

  • tarczan

    I have heard from emergency room nurses of many times where blacks refused to allow black doctors to treat them, they demanded white doctors.

  • Corpusdeli

    Michael Jackson wanted a black doctor to look after him. So he got one. While Jackson was dying of a drug overdose, his doctor was in the next room sending phone texts to his girlfriend.

  • As bad as it may seem,you should be able to request man or woman,black or white.