USDA Suggests Food Stamp Parties, Games to Increase Participation

Caroline May, Daily Caller, June 27, 2012

While spending on the food stamp program has increased 100 percent under President Barack Obama, the government continues to push more Americans to enroll in the welfare program.

The United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) has embraced entire promotional campaigns designed to encourage eligible Americans to participate in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), or food stamps.

A pamphlet currently posted at the USDA website encourages local SNAP offices to throw parties as one way to get potentially eligible seniors to enroll in the program.

“Throw a Great Party. Host social events where people mix and mingle,” the agency advises. “Make it fun by having activities, games, food, and entertainment, and provide information about SNAP. Putting SNAP information in a game format like BINGO, crossword puzzles, or even a ‘true/false’ quiz is fun and helps get your message across in a memorable way.”

The agency’s most recent outreach effort targets California, Texas, North Carolina, South Carolina, Ohio and the New York metro area with radio ads.

The ads have been running since March and are scheduled to continue through the end of June—at a cost of $2.5 million—$3 million, CNN Money reported Monday.

CNN Money further noted that the USDA began running paid radio ads in 2004, under President George W. Bush, who oversaw a 63 percent increase in average food stamp participation.

In the 1970s, one out of every 50 Americans was on food stamps. Today one out of every seven receive the benefit. After the recession, the ratio is expected to hover around one out of every nine, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

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  • CNN Money further noted that the USDA began running paid radio ads in
    2004, under President George W. Bush, who oversaw a 63 percent increase
    in average food stamp participation.

    “Miss me yet?”  Uh, no.

    Today one out of every seven receive the benefit.

    There’s part of the reason why food prices are going up.  Sure, you can’t explain something like this with just one cause, because these things are rarely mono-causal.  But when you have one in seven food consumers swiping the “it’s free swipe yo EBT” card, and food is practically free for them, this drives up demand but not necessarily supply.  Guess what happens to equilibrium prices.

    It is not coincidence that the cabinet department which handles EBT food stamps is the same one that deals with the concerns of agribusiness.

  • Oil Can Harry

    Where’s Juan Williams? He and a ton of other media talking heads were outraged when Newt Gingrich called Obama “the food stamp president”.

    Where are those loudmouths now?

  • Church_of_Jed

    Do you ever see demographic news that tells you anything other than “We’re doomed”?

    • Sheila Dinehart

      ha good point

  • MekongDelta69

    This is the ghetto equivalent of a ’60s Tupperware Party.

    “Would you care for some tea and crumpets Shaneequa?”

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

       Don’t laugh too loud, you will likely be needing food stamps soon, yourself.  Many whites are being reduced to this, by design.

      • Bob

        yes,
        through the forced taxation to support a parasitic minority that acts as a virus upon our society.
        it kills our “white” blood cells and replicates itself millions of times before it completely destroys it’s host

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

           Well okay, but to be a little more objective, let’s say that whites are being forced out of their jobs, especially white males, by design.  This has been making them poorer and poorer as a group.  That many are still comparatively successful only proves how resilient and capable the white males are in spite of this.  However, certain groups will not rest until every white man is reduced to less than middle class.  But this is also an overall strategy of both the capitalist forces as well as the Marxist inspired forces.  Capitalists want cheap labor.  They have been importing it and a poor class of whites is being created from the former middle class whites to also provide cheaper labor.  It’s working, at least around where I live.  Where there is a lot of government, such as state capitals and of course, DC, this is not as apparent, but it sure is in other places.

      • MekongDelta69

        Who’s laughing?

        I’ve never taken a dime from the Gov’t. (not even the VA (which I earned), and I never will.

        (I’m not counting Social Security – which I was forced to pay for.)

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

           You’re very proud and brave.  Don’t be insulted if I say that when you are truly without and hungry, you will take the script yourself.  And I fear that day is coming for most whites.

    • Sheila Dinehart

      you don’t think there are white ghettos…ever been to the appalachian mountain region?  Kentucky’s coal mining region…entire towns and villages are white ghettos

      • and their crime rate is still lower than black ghettos

      • MekongDelta69

        Well then Shirley McLaine – I suggest you try an experiment…

        1.) Walk through what you refer to as a ‘white ghetto’ after dark.
        2.) Then try walking through a black ghetto after dark.

        Let me know how that works out for you – if you’re still alive after attempting #2.

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

         Yes.  See, people forget and write before thinking things out.  When a group of people are systematically oppressed for years and in this case, for perhaps hundreds of years, they end up dependent.  I’ve know many folks from there, and they are proud, but also a very hurt people.  I hate that other whites often call them “white trash,” and I have often wrote protests when a Amren article or poster uses that term.

        I know they wouldn’t like me too much because of my anti-religious views, but I have had a couple of them as friends and to our credit, we were able to put our friendship above and beyond our difference in outlook, something I wish some white posters here could do.  Concentrating on the foremost important objective is what is important.

        • technodan

          I agree with you about the derogatory and offensive term “white trash”.  To me, it is no less offensive than the ‘N’ word is to blacks.  Just because somebody is poor and perhaps not the brightest bulb doesn’t make them a P.o.S.

  • MekongDelta69

    Tsk, tsk – NoBama’s minions are watching you very carefully….

  • Obongo’s goal is for all of america to need food stamps

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

       That’s right.  And it might not only be his plan.  Look at the military.  Since WW2, it increasingly became a separate welfare state.  All our government needs to do is put the recipients into uniform and give them some sort of minimalist job and it will be just like most of the military. 

      Many times in the past, our military and other nations used “script” a form of fake money that could be used at the military trading posts.  It might even be developed in the event of a currency crash, which looks increasingly likely.  See, the food and goods are there no matter what you decide it ought to be traded for; gold, other items, cash, or script.  To avoid a bloody revolution of the hungry, food stamps or “script” may save the day. 

      All of you indignant posters complaining about the stuff these people buy to eat while ringing it all up ought to quit your jobs in protest.  What, not willing to quit assisting the  welfare state?

      Maybe if they weren’t buying that stuff, the people who make it would go out of business?

      Why don’t some of you complain about the way corn growers are being subsidized to make a tiny bit of alcohol to put in our gasoline (and make our cars less reliable)?  They are profiting grandly while the cost of feed corn and food corn has skyrocketed, causing food prices to increase.

      I sure wish more posters here had the ability to see a little beyond their noses.

      •  Why don’t some of you complain about the way corn growers are being
        subsidized to make a tiny bit of alcohol to put in our gasoline (and
        make our cars less reliable)?

        That’s another big driver of food inflation.  But every time we do, we have this fool that calls himself “Carney” that chimes in about how we should be doing more of this, that we should run our entire domestic automobile fleet on ethanol, as if nobody actually has to eat.

  • Francis Galton

    Despicable and disgusting.  I have worked as a cashier at a
    predominantly black Wal-mart (I’m still there, but now I mercifully work
    in the cash office), and “The First of the Month” is legendary for its
    two-, three- and four-cart grocery orders, hundreds of out-of-the-woodwork homo
    sapiens, and large cash payments for non-food items (including alcohol
    and cigarettes) after the food transaction.  (This
    happens on the first of each month because the EBT cards automatically
    refill at midnight on the first.)

    Here are some “surprising” things you can buy wit’ yo’ foo’ skamps:

    1) Steak (even Filet Mignon)

    2) Lobster, crab legs, and other expensive seafood

    3) Soda and candy

    4) Energy drinks

    5) Breath mints

    6) Bags of ice

    While I don’t have the exact figure on hand, I would guess that the
    average EBT transaction on the First is in the ballpark of $250-$350. 
    Furthermore, to put this in perspective, an average day for our store
    will see sales around $50,000 to $60,000, whereas on the First it hovers
    around $120,000 to $140,000–the vast majority of which is, of course,
    YOUR TAX MONEY!!!

    This spectacle (and that IS what it is, an Idiocracy-worthy spectacle with literally hundreds of low-IQ, dysgenic zombies) is the spawn of the Great Society, and it angers me to no end.  It is a slap in the (overwhelmingly White) taxpayer’s face whenever D’shawn or Lavondra buys (ahem, legally PLUNDERS) $300 in food and food-like substances with their EBT card and then uses a $100-bill (or two) to buy personal care products, alcohol, tobacco, pet food, or whatever else.

    The LAST thing real, tax-paying Americans need is an even LARGER increase in food stamp usage.  While I recognize that there are exceptions, I think food stamp usage in general (among other welfare usage) should be as SHAMEFUL as committing a crime–something you would never dare tell anyone for fear of being ostracized.  Then again, for a large number of minorities criminal activity is a badge of honor, so maybe that’s not such a good idea, huh? 

    •  The EBT aspect of all that is troubling enough.  But what I notice about your narrative is that blacks are unimaginative when it comes to shopping.  It’s always one big box store, usually Wal-Martinez, and they try to buy everything they can from it.  The concept of shopping at multiple stores and doing price comparisons is as alien to them as calculus is to my pets.  I would be bored out of my skull to go to the same store all the time for everything.  As an aside, Wal-Martinez Super Centers scare me.  I hope I’m not speaking out of turn, considering they sign your paycheck.

      • hey Question Diversity, have you seen what the blacks have done to the Schnuck’s store on Lindell in St. Louis? Take a look at this Yelp review:

        http://www.yelp.com/biz/lafayette-fire-company-no-1-st-louis#hrid:fk1_iBp5144aQxdycG52lw 

        the reviewer says: “It’s what I imagine a grocery store will look like in end times. In a pinch this is still not your store. Going without makes better sense. 
        In short, this store is revolting.”
        For those of you folks from outside of Missouri and Illinois, Schnuck’s is the leading grocery store in our area, family-owned business that grew up from a butcher shop in the 1930s.  Neat clean, and until the 1980s, strictly in the white areas until they were forced by the diversity hustlers to put up a few loss leader stores in black areas.

        • That’s a review for a joint near Lafayette Square.  Which, as you know, I covered on a recent house tour on my blog.

          Yes, I’m familiar with the third world condition of that one Schnucks on Lindell.  For a Schnucks that’s in a nice area, it is a Bell Curved out dump.  I think the Schnucks that they opened on Natural Bridge and Union a number of years back (based on civic pressure and bribes) is nicer (for now), from what I’ve heard.  Though I can’t say that from personal experience.

          Even dumpier is the Schnucks on Grand and Cherokee, where Matthew Quain went that night when he was the victim of Knockout Martin Luther King.  I remember one day a few years ago when I was at the Cashier’s office at SLU Hospital to pay a bill.  I was inside waiting on the clerk, and two black women were seated outside between there and the admissions registration clerk, in a place where I couldn’t see them and they couldn’t see me.  They talked about Schnucks, both said that that Schnucks on Grand was close to where they lived, but admitted they both went to a different Schnucks farther away, because the one on Grand had:

          “Too many n*****s.”

          That it has for customers, but because it’s in the polyglot “we are the world” part of town, its employees look like a UN meeting.

          Thankfully, more than a year ago, Schnucks took down the “No CCW” signs.  Though I never would go to one where I thought I needed to carry.  In fact, I rarely do Schnucks, for me it’s mostly the Shop-n-Save along Manslaughter in Ballwin fairly close to my sardine box, and Soulard Market.  SM was of course the subject of another recent house-architecture tour on my blog.

          Luckily, I have never heard of Schnucks taking the It’s Free Swipe Yo EBT card illegally for booze and cigs.  Unlike Arizona’s answer to Schnucks, that being Bashas.

          • sorry, I gave you the wrong link from yelp.  Here’s the right one: 
            http://www.yelp.com/biz/schnucks-supermarket-saint-louis-2

          •  How it gets 2 stars of 5 is beyond me, other than the left wing trolls rating it highly out of spite.  One of those reviews mentions the SnS on Gravois not far from KMLK Country I mentioned above.  That’s the relatively new SnS in the rebuilt strip mall that used to have K-Mart.  That SnS is also scary.  The SnS a little further away near the Bosnian Mosque-Minaret is just as bad, I expect one of those two SnSs to close pretty soon.

            Did you know that the local media think that people in Lafayette Square don’t have access to fresh fruits and vegetables, such that they’re going to put something in that formerly third world Foodland on Jefferson?  There’s a reason that Foodland was a dump, and eventually closed.  Hint:  The demographics to the west, not the demographics to the east.  Whatever they put there will become the third world in short order.  Besides, people who live in LS know where to get fresh vegetables, just go the other direction on Lafayette, in the down hill direction.

        • Sheila Dinehart

          did you know st louis is extremely high on the list of cities most likely to go up in flames from race riots (that is to say black youths acting out)?

          • Yes and No.  Other than the knockout game, I think we actually have less racial tension here than in other cities.   We can all eat Imo’s Pizza and St. Paul sandwiches together and “get along”.  The city is SO segregated that blacks have a high degree of pride in their neighborhoods and a slightly less degree of anger than do cities that cram integration down everybody’s throat.  What is responsible for our high city crime rate in St. Louis is mostly black-on-black crime.  Not that we dont have the essential kindling to “go up in flames”, too….

    • Kurt Plummer

      Here in Colorado, you can’t buy:  Toilet Paper, Paper Towels, Toothpaste, Deodorant, Toothbrush, Hair Brush, Comb, Laundry Detergent, Dishwashing Detergent, Windex (cheap hand wipes) or Quarters (for Laundry) with EBT.

      You also cannot buy prepared food.

      This makes the homeless dependent upon shelters to trade in used clothing for useless make-work labor newly laundered equivalents.  And for access to shelters where most toiletries are free.  If you are willing to risk the athletes foot and other wonderful diseases that a communal shower room entails.

      Being dependent on these shelters keeps the homeless and/or poor locked in a given area, just as a Wallmart or equivalent chain-access is literally ‘the only choice for the me’ if it is on a conveniently proximal bus route.

      It’s about control of access, not a deliberate desire to ruin the propertied lives of the real world.

      Okay, that said, what inevitably ends up happening for the novice food stamp user is purchases of junk food in huge amounts because the prepackaged burgers and other microwave friendly food are hollow in calories while the sugar in candy and pastries etc. drives your metabolism into overdrive. 

      This, in combination with the caffeine in the prepackaged, prechilled, very expensive, -yet portable- soft drinks sucks the water right out of your body and puts you behind the basal curve on what food is -supposed- to do for you.

      i.e. Your are hungry and thirsty all the time.  And nothing you eat or drink does more than take the edge off.

      Since buying food is also the ONLY time the homeless are allowed into air conditioned environments in a summer time temperature condition of 102-104` throughout Denver (some of you may have seen our fires…), there is a significant incentive to overconsume as a means to have place to sit out of the sun too.

      Food consumption is further also a means to measure the passage of time with the next ‘feed’ used to schedule meetups and planning for daily events, turning low IQ personalities into little more than biped bovines wandering from feed lot to feed lot.  If you don’t like standing in lines and eating microportions before standing in lines to beg for seconds, EBT keeps you away from that madding crowd.

      Finally, in a world utterly without personal empowerment, EBT has surprising socialization utility as those blessed with a card have something to share among their fellow homeless as  means to ensure a reserved table spot in day shelters which has benefits ranging from racial safety as exclusion to the ability to leave behind heavy packs for a few hours without worry over who will steal from you.  Because someone is given a fair quantity of softdrinks and junk food to ensure they will stay put to guard the other’s gear.  And by extension, under the ‘don’t touch any chair with gear in it’ rule, this also sterilizes the table to keep away the unwanteds which means you can come -back- at any time.  And know you’re spot is still yours.

      Yet, in combination with the massive dosages of preservatives these foods contain, such binge eating and buying for others makes the typical early EBT user run out of money in a helluva hurry.  And sick as a dog with everything from constipation to diarheaa to sleeping disorders and other symptoms (rotted teeth, weight gain, diabetes, blood pressure…), both going on and coming off the first of month access to fair quality food.

      When I was encouraged to join the program, I was told by a professional case worker ‘that the U.S. government wanted everyone to have an income’ and being on EBT was the first step to being eligible for housing assistance.  I was further informed that I could ‘maybe see someone in a store and even if I didn’t want any myself, share some of my EBT and buy them a candy bar or something…’

      Which, if it sounds like institutionalized dependency similar to drug addiction, is about the correct idea.  Indeed, it is how drug addicts in our local ‘Triangle’ area manage to avoid subtracting themselves from the population as they provide the bowl and their EBT blessed friends trade food for a hit and both sides of the ugly symbiosis sustain a mutual addiction.

      I don’t know what to tell you about this that could be considered ‘good’, except that the alternative, shelter (delivered by donation) and charitable street food, is usually unregulated and often rancid with the best food shared amongst the staffs and the rest covered in so much ‘special sauce’ you don’t see or smell the questionable stuff in time.  Rule of thumb: you never eat poultry or salads or anything which has more grease than solids.

      Violation of which can lead to days spent puking your guts up or chained to a toilet, wishing somone would just kill you the right way.  All of which is further complicated by the fact that restaurants and businesses in Downtown are no longer required to provide restroom access to any but paying customers (which is why you can see people defecating and urinating in public here, there being a 1-2 mile walk between a shelter or a library at each end of Downtown with free homeless access to restrooms).

      The alternative, ‘Salvation Army Surprise’ (Soup based on yesterdays stock combined with today’s menu: chili becomes potato becomes chicken noodle etc.) is basically a constant liquid diet, broken up with stale bread from local area grocery stores and is also a bad idea as again, the undercooked meats and huge quantities of partly cooked beans in it leads to problems with grease and fatty residues.

      I am convinced that there is also a contagion risk here as the first helping is served by staff but seconds are ‘dip it yourself’ with the same styrofoam bowl which has just been scraped dry by the spoons of people who have little idea what a toothbrush is for because they have few remaining teeth.  With 300 people in a shelter it’s just a matter of time before what one person has gets transmitted to everyone else.

      If you have no sympathy for this, that’s fine, but consider that a trip to Denver General Hospital with food poisoning begins with a 2,500 dollar ambulance ride that CICP (as the taxpayer) is going to get stuck with.

      Conversely, without suggesting that it’s ‘right’, I will say that, in both the local restaurants (McDonalds, if you fly a sign or have a cash suppliment) and 7-11s (EBT friendly), here on the 16th street mall, there are times of day when 80% or more of the customer base is homeless.  We smile and nod at each other ‘in passing’ from store to store.

      The proprietors of these outlets are stuck between disgust at our unkempt appearance and backpack advertisement of identity as overt sympathy with the angry and/or numb ‘real’ customers who don’t like being near us.

      Offset against the mute realization that the homeless consistently out spend the real world.

      By an order of magnitude.

      Consider this when you realize that working and, to a lesser extent, shopping people come in once or twice a day, during the morning rush hour and at lunch, for cigarettes, coffee and sometimes food.

      And then go back to being useful.

      Whereas the junk consumerist homeless slip in just to have a little breakup of the monotony or to buy something liquid and portable, every couple hours, just to fight dehydration in the heat.

      As a result of our enormous business, in some places, (the first floor of many business buildings) there are now dedicated 7-11s where you would think they would -never- want to attract our kind.

      The result being that there are perhaps 10 individual 7-11 stores within a 1 mile area in downtown Denver.  Every other block on the 16th street mall and on every business or government building street radiating from it.  It would be easy to render these ‘working class only’ accessible as they are within the private or state property of the buildings they reside in.

      But they don’t.  Because the profit just is not there from real people.

      Someday soon, it could be.

      Indeed, given recently passed ordinances which basically make it illegal for homeless people to be in fact homeless (outside in certain parts of town between certain hours), I have a feeling what is coming next, as or even before the first signs of real collapse begin to manifest themselves in the national economy, is something like defacto economic segregation.

      Wherein some parts of Downtown in cities across the country are simply walled off inside enclave buildings and declared off limits to the homeless.  Even as food is only served (or EBT made workable) in ‘select dispensories’.  This is defacto ghettoization on a street by street basis.

      As things worsen, the amount of EBT benefits will drop accordingly and the dispensories, being less profitable will get less and less to sell.  Finally, as EBT itself despools you can expect ‘Running Man’ (food riot) conditions and equivalent solutions to rapidly solve the problem with the legal status of homelessness leading to deportation to work camps similar to what Hitler did, by decree, in Germany in the 1930s.

      Have patience people.  It’s a setup alright.  But at least from the standpoint of the true poor as homeless, it’s one which you will laugh last in.

      • Sheila Dinehart

        somehow some of these posts remind me of some really smart  and educated but socially enept people who end up having to take jobs at walmart or the library to make a living and survive in the world…really interesting

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

      From what I’ve seen, and I’ve seen a number of whites descend from middle class to poor, the first time they have to get food stamps, they are humiliated.  After a while, they accept it.  But I wonder which level of crime you would compare getting food stamps too?  In some places, it is probably keeping people from flash mobbing stores and other regions, such as mine where whites have gone in and stolen food just to survive.  You remind me a little of that policeman in “Les Miserables” who pursued a man for all his life for having stolen a loaf of bread. 

      Maybe you ought to consider yourself lucky to have a job doling out food to people who wouldn’t be in your store, providing you with a job that you might not have without food stamps. 

      You way has been tried many times over the centuries.  What happens is people riot and murder everyone who ate while they starved.  What do you think is going to happen this time?

      •  Oh, I get it now.  I thought all this time that these mahogany mobs were nothing but incorrigible out of control shiftless blacks doing something because they could get away with it and because nobody would seriously punish them for doing it.

        Thankfully, we have your wisdom, the wisdom of a man who thinks that astrology is a legitimate science, to inform us that this isn’t the case.  They do it because they’re starving (unless they aren’t), and they or their parents can’t get food stamps (unless they do).

        Question:  Which Christian did something bad to you in the past such that you’ve devoted half of your posts on AR to bashing Christianity?  I have my money on raped by Catholic priests, Bon of Babble has her money on sadistic Catholic schools.  Your answer will mean either I’m sending her money or she’s sending me money.

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

           I’m disappointed in you.  I thought you had the intelligence to refrain from such cheap attacks and simplistic assumptions.

          I have never said I believed in astrology.  In fact, I am steeped in physics and have always laughed at fortune tellers as much as the superstitious Christian/ “true believer” types.

          And it has nothing to do with one Christian or another.  I was questioning the whole thing when I was seven years old sitting in the church choir on Sunday.  And I was baptized before I knew what was going on as a Lutheran.  Been in Pentecostal churches as a youth as well.  As I learned more and delved deeper into history and observed life as I grew older, I came to my present views.

          •  I’m not disappointed in me.  I’m just doing to you what you’ve done to a lot of other people on AR for a long time.  You are that instigator / school yard bully who provokes everyone he can right up to their breaking point, and the yard monitor is around at the point when you break him, and he drags him off to the sin bin but not you, and you’re laughing at him all the while.  I’m just giving you a dose of your own medicine, and surprise, you like it not.

            I have never said I believed in astrology.

            Oh yes you have.  Don’t doubt my memory.

            As for the Christianity thing, I have found that most people do most things they do for reasons that are depressingly simple and none too cerebral.  Bon and I just happen to think that your constant barrage of criticism of Christianity, as intellectually based as it is, has an ulterior and simple motive.  It’s just like our regular Jack from Chicago’s dissatisfaction for Ron Paul (which I happen to think is more a distaste for certain Ron Paul fanatics more than RP himself).  He denies this, but I think some Ron Paul supporter slinging some scam took him  for a lot of money.  Or, its something like that. 

          • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

            You think you’re pushing my buttons?  Well, I am not at least yelling profanity as many here do.  I love a good debate, but you guys are like kindergarten to me.  You make it so easy, even if you won’t acknowledge it.

            Go ahead and tell yourself that you know all about me.  But you are walking into a very deep pitfall with that conceit.  It is one of the most understood mistakes to make; formulating these judgements without even having met your subject in person!  And obviously reading what you want into whatever one posts!

            I have NEVER said I believed in astrology, because I never have.  You don’t know how I have also railed against New Age nonsense like that elsewhere.  I have studied the Occult just as I have studied Christianity (only not nearly as much), because they historically play off the other, but I am not an adherent.  That I can and do understand to an extent what pre-Christian or non-Christian Europeans believed doesn’t make me one of them or some sort of adherent. 

            I am primarily a very curious man interested in the truth of things.  I am not afraid of being objective because I am clear with myself on that.  Your fear is palpable.  I also happen to care about white people and their survival and I clearly see Christianity as a problem.  There have been many articles on Amren that so clearly demonstrate this and it is amazing to see posters try to wiggle around the obvious.

            I do resent being termed as some sort of bully.  I have always hated bullies as I have had to deal with them enough in my life.  I’d say that you Christians are far more guilty of that because of your assumptions and projections of your beliefs onto everyone and everything.  Perhaps being confronted with searing arguments and facts makes you feel threatened and therefore “bullied?”

            But I have always been trying to jostle some of your supposed high IQ point intellects.  I don’t get any sort of gratification to see how much all my years posting and making detailed arguments have failed to change very much thinking.  At least apparently.  You and Bon are chronic posters because like me, you think you represent a view that needs to be known.  Well, your views are pretty common among conservative whites.  But they are also the reason whites are still diminishing.  I make the arguments I do because I feel I recognize that a huge shift in white conscientiousness needs to occur if whites are to survive.  I feel I have and can demonstrate endlessly how Christianity destroys white chances for survival.  And I can use your own Bible and history to do it.  I have been doing that for a long time.  But I also know that you and Bon and whoever else with more time than others are not the only readers.  I have more readers than you imagine.

            You seem to want to chase me away by invoking Bon’s  opinion and parade yours as the “master” opinion or something, and that you and Bon know me and that in your qualified assumptions I must have some terrible history as a buggered altar boy or something.  Sorry to disappoint you.  My father happened to be a very broad minded man who was also a conservative.  He happened to see the commonality in all religions.  I suppose that influence me a bit.  But the only explanation I can give is that I just saw through the whole think as a young boy.  When I learned there was no Santa or Easter Bunny, I simply began to apply the same questions and logic to what I was being told in church and Sunday school because it seemed to be of the same rationalized story telling.  I wondered why everyone was concerned that the world would end and never dying.  I happened to also be fascinated with history at a young age.  I was first interested in our civil war.  When I was 9, my folks took me to Virginia and told me about my own families involvements then and my relationship to Gen R E Lee.  That my father was a doctor and that I followed in that family tradition made critical thought in all things a habit and my intellectual life has been greatly enriched by that.

            I could be an asset to people like you and white realism, but your small minds seem to prevent that.  You think that you’re going to somehow get whites to go back to something that you think happened or existed some decades ago when even your interpretation of that has become mythologized.

             

          • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

             I challenge you to produce a quote where I wrote the world “astrology” ever before now.

            I have never written the word in all the years I have posted on Amren, until now.  I have said I like Asatru as it is better for whites spiritually than Christianity and I’ve listed the reasons a number of times.  I think you read so cursively that you think Asatru was “astrology.” 

            Poor reading comprehension on your part.  Not only that, poor education, too.  Look up Asatru, The North American Folk Assembly.  I have also written and lately, that I am a philosophical atheist, but I like the Asatru spirituality because it is culturally pure white and features ancestor worship which by its mechanism works as a good guarantee against miscegenation.  I have also said many times in the past that if we need a god figure, Odin is best because he supports whites fighting, without all the contradictory and hypocritical Biblical material that makes whites hypocrites automatically.

            Sorry that you are so limited in your comprehension of things.  Its your defensive emotionalism around defending Christianity that is subtracting all those IQ points.

          •  Whiteplight:  My responses to your two posts above are in a new hierarchy below on this thread.

      • Sheila Dinehart

        you said that pretty well i think

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

           No, it looks as if  you read it into my comments on Stonehenge.  Just because I know about it doesn’t mean I believe in it.  I think you and others are making your own assumptions based on your erroneous views of what Stonehenge has been thought to have been.  I have been there and I have several books on the subject.  None of them claim that these sites were set up to help with astrology.  Astrology came much later and tells fortunes or claims to predict events based on a phony system of assumed movements and identities of “‘stars.”  The ones that make the most sense to me overall say that Stonehenge and the many other sites on the British Isles and elsewhere in Europe were solar observatories that allowed them to make the times of years and know when their religious festival days were.  The other thing that that article didn’t mention is the huge circles of burial mounts ranging over miles on the Salisbury Plain around Stonehenge itself.  Being interested in pre-Christian archeology and history doesn’t somehow make me an astrologist. 

    • A lot of poor “starving” people need to grease doorways in order to get through them. I always thought we should hire old soviets to run our welfare system. You should only be  given what you need to survive.

    • Bob

      when you said homo sapiens you should of said “homo erectus'”

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      Despicable and disgusting.

      Yes, it is.  Look at this receipt!!

      We’re paying for the “poor” to eat lobster.

      We have entire generations, three now, that have been raised on entitlements, have NO clue that someone else is paying for their free breakfasts and lunches, EBT cards, cell phones, Internet service, gasoline, heating, housing.  Government parasites (and that’s what they are, P*A*R*A*S*I*T*E*S,  have NO qualms about taking government assistance and believe it is their RIGHT — and the 0bama regime is encouraging this!!

      Is there anyone here who thinks this is sustainable?  Really?  

      If so, explain your answer!! 

      The parasitic population that is the one that is expanding, immigrating into the country while overburdened taxpayers are mandated to pick up the tab!!  At some point, the “safety net” is going to break.

      In America today it is absolutely ridiculous how many people are climbing aboard the “safety net”.  At this point, an astounding 49 percent of all Americans live in a home that receives some form of government benefits.

      49 %  !!  http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/

      “We’ll have a bunch of people sitting on a couch waiting for their next government check”

      — Chris Christie, Governor of New Jersey

      *Since Barack Obama became president, the number of Americans on food stamps has increased by 14 million.  Food stamps have become so popular that rappers are even making rap videos about using food stamp cards.

      Bon

      What happens when the socialists run out of other people’s money?

      Go ahead, tell me:  I want to know.

      • Sheila Dinehart

        what happens when socialists run out of other people’s money?

        they never will run out

        • Bon, From the Land of Babble

          Yes, they will.

          Bon

    • Sheila Dinehart

      i see…now i understand why you have said some certain things…if i worked at walmart i would set myself on fire…one can sell food stamps and even go to certain places and by beer and cigs with them too

  • roadgeek

    What have we become?

    • You’re not going to like the answer!

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        Give it a try, Thomas.

        You write beautifully and coherently — and this is a message that cannot be repeated enough.

        Bon

        •  
          Coming from you Bon, that is quite a compliment. Like you, I toll away each day, earning a decent salary, but required to surrender a good portion of it in order to subsidize millions of illegal invading interlopers and their prodigy. I suppose if that money were being used to the benefit of White America, perhaps I might not be so exasperated in handing it over. However, that is not what is happening and we all know it. Nothing is more maddening that to be parked at a stop- light and be treated to the sight of some illegal invading Mexican mamacita, strolling across the street with three or four anchor babies in tow; with one in the oven.
           
          I have noticed a great many of them have this smirk on their face as if to say, do not be mad at me “gringo,” your country is giving it to us! Blame them, not me! I guess they are right. I guess I was wrong in expecting hordes of third – worlders do have some decency and exercise a shred of acumen and self-respect.  I cannot help but to think that these squatters are as far away from being Americans as you could ever get. Yet here they are.
           
          Nevertheless, I digress.
           
          What we have become is a nation led by those who despise this country and the very principles for which it was founded. They believe that being a patriotic White American makes you a “xenophobe, racist, heartless and a hater.” They are determined to combat this belief via allowing millions upon millions of third-world mongrels into this country. These new arrivals will demand their needs be met and this government will be more than happy to accommodate. The brown invasion is the perfect antidote for our “White privilege,” as diversity is the mandate set forth. If you question this, you are demonized a “racist” and dealt with accordingly.
           
          What we have become is a nation led by those who loathe this country and other “leaders” who are too cowardly to intervene, hence possibly losing a vote from some “marginalized” group that was never going to vote for them in the first place.  The result is essentially self-sufficiency and individualism be damned, replaced by the welfare state, a “village” and collectivism. A dependency class that will become hostile and perhaps violent if their needs are not met by government.
           
          Do not be mystified, the 1965 Hart-Cellar Act was the driving force behind where we find ourselves today. I’m convinced this legislation was a deliberate effort to undermine and replace White America, with swarms of brown” immigrants,” dependent upon a government to provide for their every need. Isn’t that what has happened? A nation where the founding stock is  about to achieve minority status, replaced by a “diverse” foreign populace, who look to government for their subsistence?
           
          Is there any other way to see it?

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            You wrote that beautifully — I knew you could do it!!

            Keep it up.

            Bon

    • A bonabo masturbation society 

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    The Food Stamp program, part of the Department of Agriculture, announced that it is pleased to be distributing food stamps to the greatest number of people ever.

    Big Food has a vested interest in this too.

    In California, we have radio advertisements soliciting people to come and get some Calfresh –California’s euphemism for the Food Stamp program.  The name was changed so no one would get his feelings hurt when he whipped out a Food Stamp card.  The card is called the “Golden State ADVANTAGE”!! — and has a picture of California’s beautiful coastline on it —  Unfreaking believable!! (see image).

    California allows SNAP to be used for fast food, under the guise that the homeless do not have kitchens with refrigerators and stoves to store and prepare food.
    Bon

    The kind of government that is strong enough to give you everything you need is also strong enough to take away everything that you have. —Ronald Reagan

    • Did you hear Bon that up until very recently, they were allowed (either that or they figured out a way to do it) to take out cash advances against balances. Of course, as you can imagine, this did not end very well, as these “oppressed “souls who depend on the government for their sustenance were taking cash advances in strip clubs and other nefarious places.

      • Sheila Dinehart

        i know i want one of those cards

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        Not only strip clubs but cruise ships too. Anyone who has ever been on a cruise knows that these things are unGodly and prohibitively expensive.

        For this I work?? Get up at 5:30 AM and suffer the indignities of the public schools so I can pay for a lazy government parasite to eat lobster and go on a cruise — something I cannot afford for myself?

        Yes, the world really IS turned upside down, WE are the new slave class in this country, forced to work to support ourselves so the lazy can kick back and relax while breeding more parasites for the productive class to support

        It is diabolical and obscene and this is why I believe the prime directive our overlords is NOT to support the government parasite class; it is to destroy the productive class, at least that’s how it looks to me, and it seems to be working.

        AND, let’s not forget that the non-White parasite class is taught from birth to despise and hate us for ‘keeping them down’ — setting us up for brutal assaults and attacks by non-White mobs.

        Bon

  • Disgusted

    I just found out that my several of my co-workers are receiving food stamps. I found out when one of them told me, after complaining about the amount she was receiving, comparing it to the other co-workers’ amounts they were receiving. I asked how she knew and she said they had all compared notes.

    They are all married and their spouses all used to have full-time white-collar jobs. They weren’t laid off and unable to find a new job. They all purposely quit their full-time jobs, choose not to work and collect food stamps while the other spouse continues working full-time.

    They all drive nice cars (newer than mine), two of them own their houses paid in full, go out to eat regularly (more than I do), go on vacations (more than I do if you’re looking at their facebook entries), etc. — shocking to find out they’re all on the ‘dole’ and think nothing of it.

    BTW, in case anyone is wondering, 4 of these coworkers who’re collecting food stamps are white and 1 is black.

    • The__Bobster

      How is that possible? The states have income limitiations and 15 of them have asset tests.

      http://www.hungercoalition.org/news/philadephia-inquirer-pennsylvania-impose-asset-test-food-stamps

      Pennsylvania plans to make the amount of food stamps that people receive contingent on the assets they possess – an unexpected move that bucks national trends and places the commonwealth among a minority of states.

      Specifically, the Department of Public Welfare said that as of May 1, people under 60 with more than $2,000 in savings and other assets would no longer be eligible for food stamps. For people over 60, the limit would be $3,250.

      http://www.ehow.com/facts_7162507_kentucky-food-stamp-income-guidelines.html

      Kentucky food stamp requirements include the following: Only U.S. citizens and legal foreign residents can apply. Anyone in the household who is 16 to 60 years of age and who can work must do so. A household must have no more than $2,000–$3,000 if any member is over 60 years of age–in cash or bank assets.

    • Kurt Plummer

      Disgusted,

      Though white collar is suggestive, you don’t mention how many kids they have or what their actual income bracket is.  And that is probably critical because 3-4 kids with less than a 100 grande a year income is probably pretty hard to do.  And 100K is upper professional class, not just white collar.

      Food stamp eligibility among the poor is strictly rationed on the basis of whatever other supplemental income you are receiving.  The largest benefits accrue to those who have truly nothing.  They get EBT (approx. 200 dollars per month) and AND (Aid for Needy and Disabled) which is another 180 or so.

      Assuming you have no drug addictions or jail time.

      If you become eligible for federal SSI or SSDI, you must first pay off all (AND = state based) related local supplements and then are typically restricted to some much reduced fraction of your original monthly EBT, if any.

      Often as little as 50 dollars.

      Given SSI/SSDI is issued on the basis of worked quarters and having a permanent residency (with associated rent) the cumulative effect is actually negative since you are paying for a bus pass to get to work, rent on the order of 40-50 dollars a week in the cheapest shelters with the expectation that you will survive on a residual income of around 400 dollars a month.  And food.  Because what they serve would poison a pig if it didn’t starve first.

      I won’t say it’s impossible to get more as EBT, especially if you have a large family, but it’s certainly not a luxury existence.

      If your coworkers are getting enough money to shift significant amounts of capital towards mortgage payoffs, dining out or vacation time, they are almost certainly defrauding the government (probably as a function of taxable income undervaluation) and should be readily caught and forced to pay back most of their funds on the basis of failure to recertify honestly.

      You have to sign your life away every six months in the recert process and the Feds make doubly sure you know they will hold you accountable as there are four or five overlapping pieces of paper which ALL have to be John Hancock’d with something like-

      “To the best of my knowledge the above is true and fully documents my income and I acknowledge that failure to fully do so is grounds for losing everything you just gave me.”

      To gain access to the system.

  • The__Bobster

    If you’re a USDA worker, job security is getting people ON food stamps.

  • I W

    Cloward-Piven parties, seriously? The rot is that bad?

  • I guess  obammaba and the dems figure the more people dependent on the govt. the more voters they have.

  • Bob

    as if 50 percent of the people who are going to be included in these “parties” can complete a game of bingo or a crossword puzzle without raping the nearest human or “busting a cap”

  • Now- I’m utterly confused (not about the article). Three comments- by Disgusted, Francis Galton & by Kurt Plummer (his longer post, below, “Here in Colorado..”) paint mutually exclusive pictures of the entire food stamps problem.
    All I can do is ask, like Pontius Pilate: “What is truth ?”

  • refocus

    If people cannot earn their living in the prime of their life when can they?

    Now in this crazy anti-human economy created by the people who own the government … where a statistically significant proportion of the population can be and has been corrupted to the point of participating in the new concept of *the case for killing grandmother*… well … uhh … and … uhh … the fact that there were only a couple of hundred participants at the recent American Renaissance Conference … maybe we are doomed.  No jobs, no community, no power… no possibility of averting a disaster congruent to the communist revolutions.  We are sitting ducks… fish in a barrel. 

    •   Wow! Only a couple hundred participants at the Amren Conference. Must have better things to do like sitting around drinking beer and watching blacks dunking basketballs. Hahaha.

      • refocus

         I have seen white people pay $300 to Pay per View to watch a game of basketball on TV. 

        I have seen other white people in their late twenties and early thirties watch and comment on these games of basketball as if such were very important.  After the game they would discuss it some more.  Never would they talk about politics… and considering the way normal white people are being gamed against by all and sundry perhaps their sense of self preservation is was more highly tuned than I have previously given them credit for.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obPhFtoU9bo&feature=relmfu

  • Sheila Dinehart

    Well many whites need food stamps and many baby boomers are too old or too ill to work and they need food stamps…there are an awfully lot of poor white people in America…there might even be more poor whites than poor blacks…a lot more. I want some food stamps!

  • Sheila Dinehart

    ha what an innocent

  • People on any sort of assistance shouldn’t be allowed to vote. They have too  much of a vested interest. What happens when the takers outnumber the givers? The takers will always vote for a bigger government. The people who will wind up paying for everything won’t have a say in any election in the future. Wait a minute! That’s why the Dems want an open border and more people on assistance. By Joe! I think I’m on to something.

  • Up to my neck in CA

    “The ads have been running since March and are scheduled to continue through the end of June—at a cost of $2.5 million—$3 million”

    Our tax dollars at work to displace the hard working, law abiding American tax payers even more!

  • Whiteplight,

    First off, you did raise astrology to the level of a science.  I’m kicking myself for not saving the post in which you did.

    Second, you may or may not be familiar with the late AR regular poster who went by both browser and ghw.  Well, in life, he was a NYPD detective, and he could tell a lot about AR regulars just by reading their posts.  Aside from calling you a “fringe wacko,” and the only reason he never mounted a “major offensive” against you like he did others here was because he didn’t think you were important enough, he thought your illustrious life story didn’t add up.  Because you busted my pinata at just the right spot, I’m doing what he never wanted to do.  And not just to you — There are a lot of other fools here who need taking down a peg or two or three or four.  (Yes, Engelman, MikeJones21, Robert Kelly, Crystal Lite Evans, I’m looking at all of you.) 

    Third, we have freedom of (or from) religion in this country.  I’m not grinding over your faith system, and your criticism of Christianity doesn’t bother me in se.  Really, I hope you and Asaturu have a gay ole time, and I’m not being glib.  The problem with your particular set of criticism of Xtianity is that it is emblematic of a problem on both the racial and aracial right:  Silver bullet thinking.  The notion that if we just do one thing, everything else will fall into line and we’ll be living in paradise.  (Usually, these theories revolve around repealing the Federal Reserve.  Which we need to do,  but doing so will not automatically engineer paradise.)   If we doff Christianity, we’ve done nothing but change faith systems, nothing more or less.  Besides, most of the white world has pretty much done what you wanted anyway to one degree or another.  If jettisoning Christianity was going to bring about our racially minded utopia, where is it?  Sweden ought to be leading the world in white racial politics.  (If Europe is more advanced than us in terms of nationalist or crypto-nationalist parties gaining serious political power, it is because of those countries’ multi-party cultures, their non-first past the post electoral paradigms save the UK, and their parliamentary constitutions.)  Meanwhile, in the seggy south, whites were simultaneously serious Christians and seriously racially minded at the same time.  I don’t need to ask you how you would explain that paradox, because I already know — “Their Christianity wasn’t pure.”  As if anything is.

    Fourth, I didn’t know Bon and I were ruining our race.  If by “ruining our race,” you mean “don’t like you,” you’re right.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      I could be an asset to people like you and white realism, but your small minds seem to prevent that. 
      I assume this statement was directed at me??  I come back from Florida to find out I’m under attack by someone who has attacked me a number of times in the past??

      “Small Minds”

      “ruining our race??”

      ME??!

      QD- Everything you said about ghw above is true.  I was able to spend time with ghw in California and his home, Manhattan,  before he died on Christmas Day this past year — died angry because of how  America had changed so much and not for the better.  I can vouch that those were his exact sentiments.

      I do not have time/desire or energy to review whether Christianity is the ONE single thing destroying this country or not, don’t believe it is, and don’t want to get into a long-winded discussion about it because I think it is a waste of time.  There IS a War on the White race being conducted on many different fronts — a war we are losing; the end result of which will be our enslavement and genocide.

      You and I and others here discuss what is happening to us to make this WAR known as much as we possibly can DESPITE those who counter us or distract from what we’re saying — or worse, call us names and physically threaten us (which you were this past week) — or throw up posts w/o knowledge– THOSE are the posts that anger me the most, misinformation and/or red herrings.  

      Do I believe we Whites are under threat genocide?  YES.

      People can call me all the names they want, working in a high school has made me impervious and I know it is the last refuge of the out-argued.   Threats are a different level and whoever is making them, AFAIC, should be banned from AR.

      Bon