Pastor Marvin Winans Beat Up, Carjacked on Detroit’s West Side

Oralandar Brand-Williams and George Hunter, Detroit News, May 17, 2012

A prominent Detroit minister was carjacked and assaulted Wednesday.

Pastor Marvin L. Winans, pastor of Perfecting Church, was still dazed as he spoke to WXYZ-TV (Channel 7) about the incident, which happened in broad daylight at a busy intersection on the city’s west side.

Winans said he was buying gas at a CITGO station on Linwood near Davison when he was approached and assaulted. He said he noticed 10 young men in the gas station, and several of them followed him out.

“There were at least four of them who followed me out,” said Winans, 54, also an actor and member of the Grammy-winning gospel family The Winans and nationally known pastor delivered the eulogy at singer Whitney Houston’s funeral in February.

Winans, who was struck while pumping gas into his luxury SUV, described the attack as “quite savage.”

He said the attackers also grabbed at his pants and ripped them off. Winans said he didn’t know if the men knew who he is but if they did, “it didn’t matter.”

Gas station clerk Moe Sayed said the suspects beat Winans in the face, took his pants and wristwatch. Sayed said he believes there is a group that comes into the gas station to hang out and rob patrons. He said one gas station customer was shot there about four months ago.

“We call police about 20 times a day,” he said. “They (the suspects) come in and sell drugs.”

The attack is the latest incident of brazen and rampant violence gripping the city, claiming even a former Detroit police chief among the victims.

On May 8, former police chief Stanley Knox was robbed and assaulted as he mowed his lawn on the city’s northwest side.


Taken in Wednesday’s incident was Winans’ 2012 four-door purple Infinity QX56 and money.


The suspects, all black males, fled in the vehicle south on Linwood, police said.


N. Charles Anderson, the president and chief executive of the Detroit Urban League, called the attack characteristic of the exploding violence in the city. “It’s like we are becoming lawless,” Anderson said.


Winans, who lives in Metro Detroit, said he doesn’t want to be afraid “of us.”


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  • N. Charles Anderson, the president and chief executive of the Detroit
    Urban League, called the attack characteristic of the exploding violence
    in the city. “It’s like we are becoming lawless,” Anderson said.

    You don’t say, slappy.  Becoming lawless?

    Remember, the number one concern of the Urban League is the forced integration of neighborhoods.

    • Sherman_McCoy

      I spewed my morning coffee when I read that.  Almost like saying, “It’s like we are becoming black.”

    • blight14

       WHAT???? Did that poor buffoon really say that, my goodness, welcome to reality, albeit 50+ years late….

  • Oil Can Harry

    Detroit = Rorke’s Drift circa 1879

    • Up to my neck in CA

      Mad Max 2012

  • The Onion: ” Tens Of Thousands Dead In Ongoing Africa”,28201/


  • IKantunderstand

    Someone needs to send Pastor Winans a copy of Mr. Derbyshire’s article at Taki mag. Apparently,  Blacks can also profit from the White version of the “Talk”.

  • crystal evans

    Let’s put it this way, Pastor Winans would be safer in a KKK meeting with a noose around his neck than in his own neighborhood pumping gas. I guess it is time to be afraid of “us”. Who knows what us is going to do next? I think that they could care less who is was but saw his car and wanted that and that overshadowed everything else.

  • And the boys werent impressed when he name-dropped Whitney Houston?

    • El_Magyar

      No kidding. This Winans guy is a twit. A PURPLE luxury SUV? Good Lord.

  • Francis Galton

    From now on, I’m sure the good Pastor will be relieved when he hears a group of people behind him and they turn out to be White.

    • ljot2

      We’re waiting for Reverend Al to join the elite group of mugged-by-Blacks Blacks. Maybe, the cognitive dissonance will settle on the side of race realism.

    always be at those ribbon-cutting ceremonies
    celebrating MORE TAX BUCKS getting flooded into that shithole

    so, guess he might as well get the full
    Detroit Experience

  • pstreitz

    As lousy as Detroit is, it is not totally the fault of the Black population.  When the United States signed on to Free Trade, with economists like Milton Friedman, saying the benefits would be lower prices for everybody. But of course, he did not mention that millions of jobs of Americans would be sent to China, Japan and Mexico.  Realistically, a black person with less than a high school education is not going to get a high paying job in the auto industry.  Or much of any job at all.

    Those complaining about the amount of welfare dumped into Detroit and other cities ought to start thinking about why they are driving Toyotas instead of Fords.

    Detroit as other American cities are just shells of their former economic prosperity.  It was black people that brought this on, it was the white Republicans pumping for globalization, free trade and massive immigration.  This is not to excuse the violence, but it is to point out that the lack of jobs was not and is not caused by the Blacks in this country.  It is and continues to be caused by the greedy white elites.

    • MrGJG

       I don’t think 15 yr. old black kids are acting like savages because of the poor job market.  Half the beatdowns don’t even include theft.

      • ljot2

        Going back 50 years, I faced beatdowns because I was a crippled White kid in a poor, mixed-race school district.

    •  Suburban Detroit is just as afflicted by the ravages of free trade as urban Detroit.

    • Oil Can Harry

      Sorry, pstreitz, but there were plenty of white autoworkers who got laid off  and most didn’t go on  crime sprees.

      The same goes for the tens of thousands of white steelworkers in Pittsburgh and Ohio who lost their jobs when the mills closed down.

      •  Pittsburgh:  An urban core even more affected negatively by free trade than Detroit.  At least Detroit had the advantage of an automatic loyal market of American car buyers.  That is something that wasn’t much present in the steel market.

        But is Pittsburgh a Detroit-style dysfunctional hole?  Hardly. 

    • ljot2

      The ugly truth, well said.  A question must be raised:  White elites, or, Jewish elites?

      • anarchyst

         When I was growing up, those of us who were race-conscious had a saying “behind every negro project / problem, there is a (certain type of) jew (involved in some way)”.  It turns out that certain jews figured prominently in the civil rights (for some) movement in the 1950’s and 1960’s.  It is no secret that certain jews went down south and caused considerable trouble in many all-white, peaceful, tranquil communities.
        This is NOT an indictment of all jews, merely those who were (and still are) pushing the “multiculturalism” and “diversity” crap (on the rest of us).
        The “jews” I am referring to are NOT the religious jews (who are fine citizens) but the radical marxist atheist jews of communism . . .

        • Major

          Which is why AH persecuted so many of them…he knew that the majority were communists and a threat to the government. Which also was another reason he invaded Russia.  We should have helped him rid us of Russia when we had the chance. Think of all the trouble we could have avoided if Russia was a defeated and was an occupied country of Westphalia?

    • El_Magyar

      pstreitz, you are spouting nonsense. Why is being poor an excuse for acting like an animal? Enough excuses. The people in Detroit have human brains and faculties just like everyone else, right? Then they need to start acting like humans instead of savages. And save me all the threadbare excuses about, poverty, opportunity, etc.

      • Major

        “The people in Detroit have human brains..”

        There’s still much ongoing debate if an average statistical IQ of 75 could be considered much of a “brain”. It does appear to be adequate enough to emote the required aggressiveness, violence and unrestrained procreation though.

    • Prima_Morte

       Read up about the 1967 Detroit riots, and you’ll see why Whites evacuated the city over the next few years.  It had nothing to do with economics, it was caused 100% by black people’s behavior. Pittsburgh survived the collapse of the steel industry, because Whites rebuilt the industrial base of that city. They did not burn the city to the ground and start murdering the residents en masse.

      • anarchyst

        I lived in Detroit during the 1967 riots and saw first-hand the destruction of a once-great city.
        Most people are unaware that the words” soul brother” was spray-painted on the fronts of black-owned businesses to inform the rioters to leave them alone (similar to what the jews did (in biblical times) when the “angel of death” bypassed jewish housholds).

    • Worried_in_USA

       Try Lyndon Johnson and the 1965 Immigration Reform Act, sponsored by Ted Kennedy.  Immigration was raised up from 20,000 a month to 80,000 a month. 

        Obama has  increased it to 120,000 per month.

       Oh, and the bill specified that 3rd world countries are first in line.   No literacy necessary.  No wonder our welfare/Medicaid/Food Stamp programs were high even before this horrid recession started.

      Thank you, Dems.

  • I have yet to hear any of these “Urban Leagues” say anything when the victims are white. When the victim is black though, then they expect us all to do something about it.

  • Shawn_thefemale

    Funny, the only thing in this story that even catches my attention is a purple Infinity???
    Way to fly beneath the radar.

    • Up to my neck in CA

      I humble man of God with an expensive car with a custom paint job…hhhmmm?

  • Johnny Reb

    QUOTE:  He said the attackers also grabbed at his pants and ripped them off.
    No doubt, these were flourescent purple with yellow stripes.  They should be easy to find.

  •  Why do you think the Japanese automakers built American plants in the middle of nowhere?  Because they wanted to avoid having to hire Quan’tavious.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    Detroit is already a food desert, with thugs hanging around gas stations, it will soon be a gas desert too.
    Taken in Wednesday’s incident was Winans’ 2012 four-door purple Infinity QX56 and money. The SUV list price is $72,000.  His $40,000 Presidential Rolex was also stolen.

    A minister with a $40,000 watch?

    After all, there’s Reverend Jackson and Reverend Sharpton and their businesses…the church and gospel business are money makers. 

     If you want to get rich, you start a religion.

    –L. Ron Hubbard, founder of The Church of Scientology

    And, what’s with the purple??


    • I bet the SUV had hydraulics, spinning rims and leopard skin seat covers too 

    • A Bantu preacher named “Reverend Ike” says that “lack of money is the root of all evil”, and “Money is God in action”. The larger the denomination in dollar bill contributions, the greater their salvation, he says.

      Around 12 years or so ago, I got a letter from this Reverend Ike with a piece of cheap dime store yarn enclosed in it. He said that if I gave a donation, then this piece of yarn would be my good luck amulet or some such nonsense. I tossed it in the garbage can.

  • sestamibi

    I remember my first visit to Detroit back in October 1971.  It wasn’t that great a place even then.  I was all of 21 and driving cross-country home to New York.  I stopped at a gas station to fill up with what limited cash I had (in the days before ATMs), and told the black station manager about my frustration in not being able to cash a traveler’s check at any of the local banks without a picture ID (NY DLs didn’t have photos back then).  He shrugged, and with a grin said “well, we got a lot of crime here”–almost as though it were an element of civic pride.

    • Probably was for him…they seem to take pride in being da most hood and sheeit…

  • There’s no “us” in U.S.A. buddy, where’d you get that idea?

  •  And the “economic conditions of no jobs” is far less the good predictor of violent crime than race.

  •  RTW states do have big cities.

    I also recall some Japanese owned American auto plants in Ohio and Indiana, closed shop states. 

  • Prima_Morte

     “Guest,” you must have owned a 1985 Chrysler LeBaron (or is it LeBron?). Four power windows stopped working, turbocharger went out, head gasket blew, the stereo broke so often I quit taking it in just for that (I’d get a few other things to have fixed first), and all within 50,000 miles.  Plus, I’d get the car back and it would have an extra 50-75 miles on it. I think they were using customers’ cars to deliver their dope, but I could never prove it.

  • slobotnavich

    This dummy should get himself a concealed carry permit and learn how to use a gun.

  • Oil Can Harry

    “The economic problems are not attributable to African Americans…”

    Actually some of our economic problems ARE attributable to them. When you have a group of people who consume more in taxes than they pay out, that’s definitely a drag on the economy.

    Were Detroit and Flint to become majority white they would once again be great places to raise a family, whether the US had free trade, “fair” trade or no trade.

  • anarchyst

     In the late 1960s and early 1970s there was a successful “criminal abatement program” in the City of Detroit called STRESS (Stop The Robberies, Enjoy Safe Streets).  Police officers would be on duty as “decoys”, dressing as vulnerable older men and women.  When the predators would strike, they would be quickly “dispatched”.  Detroit’s first black mayor, Coleman Young, ran his campaign on the abolition of the STRESS program as “too many black people were being killed”.  His campaign was successful, STRESS was disbanded, the results being that predators were given “free reign” in Detroit.

  • anarchyst

     Roger Moore is a multimillionaire communist race traitor . . . His “schlockumentary” “Roger and Me” was full of falsehoods.  For one, GM chairman Roger Smith offered Roger Moore an interview BEFORE his “schlockumentary” was made.  Of course, Roger Moore REFUSED . . . you see, that would destroy the whole (fraudulent) basis of his “schlockumentary” . . .

  • ed91

    I don’t know who he is and don’t want to.  Blacks create this kind of ‘community’.   Who cares about the 5% that manage to support themselves…….  they’ve created hell for the rest of us.

  •  And you both aren’t grokking the conversation.  Free trade…bad.  But not the cause of urban Detroit looking like a bombed out war zone…100% blacks.  If free trade caused a place to look like a bombed out war zone, the whole country would look like that.

  • Like the late Whitney Houston. It didn’t do her much good, since she wound up hot, wet, naked and very dead in Hollywood.

  • tyughvbn:
    Your comment is instructive, not necessarily for its content, but for what it proves.

    It has been my contention for a long time that anyone who has any social or political authority over blacks (even if those in authority are other blacks or white liberals) will wind up, bit by bit, piece by piece, salami slice by salami slice, implementing a system that is eerily reminiscent of slavery, segregation, Jim Crow, and/or apartheid.  And they will even implement this system in the spirit of “anti-racism.”


    Because almost everyone gets the government they deserve almost all the time.  Blacks beg their rulers and politicians to enact slavery/segregation/apartheid/JC because that’s the form of government they deserve, as a consequence of their actions.

    Your work camps proposal sounds a lot like slavery.