Trouble in Loop Was Anomaly, Officials Say

Kavita Kumar, STL Today, April 2, 2012

After a year without any major incidents on the Delmar Loop, the warm weather brought out a large number of young people on Saturday night that led to a disturbance and gunfire, followed a couple of hours later by a shooting that left two people hospitalized.

The events sent some patrons who were sitting outside at nearby bars and restaurants indoors, and asking for their checks.

On Sunday, St. Louis and University City officials met for more than an hour at the Moonrise Hotel to discuss the situation and emerged from the meeting saying that the night’s incidents were an anomaly. At a news conference on the sidewalk, they told reporters that the Loop is safe.

St. Louis Mayor Francis Slay said that most of the people who come to the Loop behave themselves but that a “very, very few bad apples” caused a bad situation.


Officials did not outline any specific plans other than a vow to continue to work together and to monitor law enforcement levels in the popular nightlife district to ensure the Loop is peaceful.

Two years ago, University City adopted an earlier curfew to help stop groups of young people disrupting businesses. Teens under the age of 17 are not allowed to be out without an adult after 9 p.m.

And last spring, police from four departments—University City, St. Louis, Metro and Washington University—stepped up patrols in the Loop after some incidents, including one in which a St. Louis police officer suffered minor injuries after trying to break up a fight near the MetroLink station just east of the Loop.

St. Louis Police Chief Dan Isom said Sunday that the size of those patrols vary depending on the intelligence police officials have. On Saturday night, he said, his department and University City police beefed up their presence—as it has in the past few weeks—in anticipation of an influx of people due to the warm weather.

In addition, he said, there was chatter on social media that young people were planning to show up in the Loop. He said his department had 15 officers in the Loop and University City had about a dozen.


In the first incident, about 8:30 p.m., a crowd of 200 to 300 young people congregated at Skinker and Delmar boulevards, according to St. Louis police. A St. Louis police “nuisance abatement” truck is stationed at that corner in the Shell parking lot.

Police tried to break up the group, which then dispersed. Some people moved toward Enright Avenue and gathered in the 700 block of Skinker. Fights broke out, and one person fired shots into the air, police said.

About 30 to 40 more officers from various departments responded to the scene, Isom said.


Then a little after 11 p.m., shots were fired in the parking lot of Church’s Chicken at Delmar and Skinker. A man, 19, was shot under his left armpit, and a teenager, 17, was shot in his abdomen. {snip}


[Editor’s Note: A search of “the loop black people” on Twitter reveals the following Tweets, all left by black people:

“That’s crazy.. RT @_CoolAsFck: I heard you gotta be 21 after 2pm at the loop now..smh [smacking my head], black people fck it up for everybody”

@LightBrightChey: Black people fck up sht for everybody. What you at the Loop shooting for.?”

“Loop was wild… I thought it was a fckin black people march. They all got kicked out… Police had the dogs out, barkin & shit lmaoo [laughing my ass off]”

“I heard it was a Riot in the Loop last night smh Black people just can’t go nowhere and HAVE FUN …’ ”

“& the loop was on the news! SMH, black people aint about to get to do NOTHING!”

“Why are people are acting so surprised that the loop got shut down. What did you expect? Black people to be in one place and NOT Fight?”

“smmfh black people cant ever do anything. im never going to the loop agin! scared shitless LBVS”]


Share This

We welcome comments that add information or perspective, and we encourage polite debate. If you log in with a social media account, your comment should appear immediately. If you prefer to remain anonymous, you may comment as a guest, using a name and an e-mail address of convenience. Your comment will be moderated.
  • Sure, it was an anomaly.  It was the first this year.  (There were two last year)

    There was another Knockout Martin Luther King incident here over the weekend:

  • xxxtonygunsxxx

    in baltimore the fashionable term for black murder and violence is that it is an ISOLATED INCIDENT

  • sbuffalonative

    Let’s not forget the ubiquitous ‘at the wrong place, at the wrong time’. Translation: being in the vicinity of blacks at any time.

  • Blacks causing trouble in East St. Louis is normalcy, not anomaly. Go check the carjacking, burglary, robbery, home invasion, rape and murder stats if you don’t believe it.

    Blacks are number 1 in the nation at 1 thing, mob crime. I’ve never seen any other race in America do this.

    • It’s an African thing, Hunter. Why do you think twenty to fifty Zulus will track down one lion or buffalo? Because one on one hunting is simply not their way. 

    • robinbishop34

      This area is not East St. Louis, which is on the Illinois side of the Mississippi, but rather a trendy, liberal enclave in the Central West End. While I do think there are some black areas nearby I believe these ‘youths’ are piling in from downtown on Metrolink trains.

      Everywhere in the county those trains extend have gone from nice, desirable areas to no-go zones.

      • Waywont

        A liberal enclave? Good. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch. Nothing like a stiff dose of diversity…

        • 1Forced_Registration

           Unfortunately, the crime wave will not stretch into Clayton, and Ladue where the liberal insanity is at its worst, and the population is IMHO most deserving of diversity. 

          Even HUD wont pay $8000 a month for a home in Ladue.

      • Things like Metrolink, MARTA and the like must be opposed. They literally force communities to take bused in black felons. Any neighborhood on a bus line, like Minneapolis’ “Somali Trolleys” goes right to hell.

  • Well, lets try to list all the euphemisms for black barbarism that we can.

    I’ll start with a few…

    Isolated Incident
    Disappointment (I.e, “It was a disappointment when the annual Black Expo turned into a stabbing festival and shooting gallery.”)

    • “Caught up in the moment”. That excuse was actually used by one of the defendants in the Reginald Denny stomping, following the Rodney King riots in L.A.

    • robinbishop34

      Don’t forget ‘misbehaving youths.’

    • Add to your list:

      “Fell in with the wrong crowd.”

  • redshirts

    Race had nothing to do with it. We use the word “anomaly” so Whites can hold each other accountable to speaking correctly about race, and so we can monitor conversations for evidence of who is “safe” and who isn’t.

    “Did you hear about the how the Diversity Sons of Obama rioted at the Delmar Loop last night? Maybe we shouldn’t ever go back down there.” NOT SAFE.

    “You disgusting, filthy racist pig! Everybody knows it was just an anomaly! Even the police said so. Don’t raise your ugly head around here and start spewing your toxic venom of hate and bigotry. We are a welcoming and inclusively tolerant community, and we won’t tolerate bias. You don’t represent our values or reflect who we are.” CERTIFIED GOLD STAR SAFE.

    • redshirts

      We have today’s CERTIFIED GOLD STAR SAFE winner, goes by the name Bloem:

      ‘F**king N***ers’: Bartender Fired After Calling Blacks ‘Apes & ‘Animals’ on Her Facebook PageAfter these comments were made public, Proof Chicago owner Mike Bloem issued a statement to address the controversy and Elizabeth was immediately fired.

      “Proof would like to confirm its belief in equality, fairness and tolerance to all our friends and partners,” Bloem said. “Sadly, on occasion, we are all exposed to ignorance and racism. We believe that by continuing to be true to our ideals and leading through our actions that each of us can be an agent for positive change.”

      When a White girl tells the truth about Diversity, she’s immediately fired and labeled as “ignorant” by her boss, who is just now trying to come to grips with the fact that his bar is about to become a Civil Rights pilgrimage.  Whites will flee. Business will suffer. Insurance rates will skyrocket. Business closes.  More Diversity Curse Creative Destruction.  Serves him right.  That’s what we call White Justice.Diversity is a vile hate crime against God’s kingdom plan for our White privilege and violates White Humanity’s ordained destiny.  Anti-Racsim is codeword for Anti-White.

  • The anomaly was how early in the year it was but it was unusually warm.  They behave better when its cold.

  • Of the approximately 770,000 interracial crimes that occured in 2005, 85 percent of them were blacks committing crime against Whites.

    That is more than 650 THOUSAND “anomalies.” That is more than 1700 “isolated incidents” DAILY.

    Celebrate diversity. Just don’t be unarmed and alone as you celebrate. I wouldn’t want you to become an anomaly.

  • xxxtonygunsxxx

    WE ARE  George Zimmerman

  • I W

    An anomaly… like gravity, entropy or inertia…

    Nothin’ to see here…move along…

  • JackKrak

    There are white people in St. Louis?

  • It could be because the blacks in U-City are maybe a tad better than their neighbors.  But we still see and read and hear plenty of crime stories from U-City north of Olive.  And U-City’s public high school is almost all black, in spite of the general pop being about 50/50.

    I’m also hesitant to believe these “blockbusting” urban legends slash excuses slash canards.

  • 1Forced_Registration

     The massive crowds of blacks are a relatively new thing, but the group attacks by 2-15 blacks on whites are not. Nor are the frequent muggings (usually a group of 2-3 with one acting as a lookout) of whites going back to the public parking lot in University City a new thing. What has changed in that music venues such as the Pageant have stretched the loop quite a bit closer to the city of St Louis proper, and the blacks there have always behaved worse. Part of this is due to University City police having a very nasty (and earned) reputation for police brutality, and another part of it is fewer numbers of blacks in University City.

    However, the hatred the blacks have for whites is no different now than it was 20 years ago. I had a friend that lived on Eastgate, and directly in front of his apartment was the infamous graffiti that read “Whitey will get they day!” (spelling in original).  You took your chances the closer to Olive blvd you walked at night; though you were relatively safe on the Delmar itself most of the time.