Fight at Shower Cited in Slaying of 9-Month-Old Boy

George Hunter, The Detroit News, February 25, 2012

A fight over a seat at a baby shower triggered the killing of a 9-month-old boy, according to the victim’s grandmother.

Delric Miller IV died Monday as he slept on the couch in his home on the 8400 block of Greenview Avenue. Police said someone fired at the house with an AK-47-type assault rifle about 4:30 a.m., leaving behind 37 shells. One of the rounds hit the baby, who was pronounced dead at Sinai-Grace Hospital.

Delric’s grandmother, Cynthia Wilkins, said she believes the shooting was retaliation for a skirmish Sunday at a baby shower at Club Celebrity on Plymouth Rd. in Detroit.

“The shower was overbooked, and there was an argument because there weren’t enough seats,” said Wilkins. Her daughter, Diamond Salter, attended the shower, which was thrown by a friend, Wilkins said.

“A woman got mad because she couldn’t find a seat, so she started knocking tables down, and it escalated from there,” Wilkins said. “My daughter and her friends left the club, but (a group of men and women) followed them to a gas station, and there was a fight with one of the guys who was at the shower with my daughter. Then, they followed them to the house.

“I think they came back the next day and shot up the house,” said Wilkins, who sobbed as she recounted the events. “They went to the shower to celebrate life; instead, a life was destroyed.”

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“Life is not valued in Detroit. It’s a war zone here,” Wilkins said. “We need some ground troops patrolling these streets; they send them all overseas, but they need to be here.”

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  • Detroit_WASP

    Detroit needs its own page on AmRen.
    There was a 6-year-old shot just the other day. 

    http://www.freep.com/article/20120227/NEWS01/120227054/Two-teens-in-custody-for-carjacking-spree-shooting-6-year-old?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

     This is my old neighborhood.  When I grew up there, it was all white and a great place to live. Now it is all black and a living hell.

    • Do you still live there?  My parents in an almost astonishing prescient move, left Dearborn in 1956.  I have heard all of the stories from relatives.  Including the one cousin who returns from a tour in Vietnam, totally unscathed and ended up maning the picket line to keep the 67 rioters out of Dearborn. He had orders to shoot to kill as they were trying to kill him.  There are so many things I remember about what could be called Old Detroit by way of being told.  From what I remember, it was a wealthy city, flush with arts and places to go.  One of the last places my mom took me before we left is Belle Isle.  When I looked on Youtude to find out what it looked like, well it looked like the Atlanta Freaknik, truly an urban horror.  There was once a Kodak film of Belle Isle taken in the early 60s of all cherub-like white children playing.  It was taken down off of Youtube when I started making references to it. 

  • ncpride

    Life is not valued in Detroit. It’s a war zone here,” Wilkins said. “We need some ground troops patrolling these streets; they send them all overseas, but they need to be here.”

    Why? So you can scream RACISM, racial profiling and police brutality in a few weeks? No, YOUR people make and create the hellish ghettos in which you live and only you and your “people” can change it.

    • Up to my neck in CA

      It’s the old damned if you do and damned if you don’t with blacks. You try to help them and they cry and scream until one of them scratches the numbers of a winning Ghetto lottery ticket. If you don’t do anything, they cry racism. Wall up Deadtroit and sell Pay-Preview tickets, like a modern Thunderdome/Coliseum. They could have a BBQ and a cRap concert, call it the “Keepn it Real Fest”. Roaches check in but they don’t check out.

  • Alexandra1973

    Just another day in da hood.

  • This would be an excellent idea for a politically incorrect book. The history of Detroit from the better days to the worst.  When did Detroit begin to turn bad?  When did White flight occur?  Was there a time when the city was a truly good place to live? When was it?  It would make an excellent book, full of pictures of what it looked like then….and what those same places look like now. 

    Q

    • My family was among those that inhabited the area of the midwest for almost 500 years coming as French explorers, trappers, missionaries and military.  As time progressed, they became traders and farmers during the Colonial period.  They were there for the building of Fort Detroit, then later as builders of Detroit itself.  My last remaining Detroit relatives left in the 1970s, with my family leaving much earlier in the 50s.  For a half a decade, I have heard stories about Detroit and Dearborn, where I was from.  Detroit’s troubles included Henry Ford using blacks to manage the white unions.  As more and more blacks moved to Detroit and really all of the Northern Cities, race riots and disturbances became common.  For the most part, blacks were confined to a section of the city but as you know, the socialists were gaining control of the black populations early after WWII.  As the ghetto sprawled across areas of Detroit, white flight began much earlier than folks think, probably as early as the 50s when the suburbs of Detroit took off.  The 1967 riots burned a large part of the urban core that was ghetto but also small, ongoing businesses that ringed the ghetto area.  Of course white flight became white flood.

      The destruction of Detroit was thrown in high gear with blacks now electing the mayor and commissioners.  The school system absolutely collapsed during this time.  The large, historical structures of America’s 20th century industrialization were laid open for savages to pick clean of salvage.  The old downtown was put upon as Rome was by a series of barbarians.  One of the great department store chains JL Hudsons couldn’t hold back the misery and disappeared.  Many businesses, including my great grandmother’s candy store, built in the 1880s left the family and was boarded.  Detroit, up to at least the early 60s, was a thriving metropolis, albeit with the trouble just over the horizon.  If you are old enough, you may remember the Hudson’s Thanksgiving Day parade, it rivaled the Macy’s parade.  This long standing event just disappeared over night.  My parents were happy and content to live in the Detroit burbs if one day in Detroit he wasn’t robbed of his employer’s receipts by a group of black thugs.  He had a coveted concealed weapon permit but decided on a moments decision to not use it.  They shortly in time sold their almost new house, moved the family away from all relatives, to Florida where the South still knew how to control savages.

      That is just a thumbnail sketch but you should view some of the Youtube videos called collectively, ruins of Detroit.  In it you will see fine, large homes, considered mansions in their time, laid bare.  Large industrial buildings, the birthplace of the Model T for instance, are crumbling hulks.  It is my contention that Detroit was a very wealthy and wonderful city to live in at one time, certainly that time began to disappear in the 1940s but what a grand city it was for a large part of the 19th and 20th centuries.

      • Alexandra1973

        My dad grew up in Detroit in the 1940s and 50s and witnessed the ’67 riots.

        He said that you could leave your door unlocked, go on vacation, and come home and find everything in its place.  They used to show movies in the parks.  You could go to sleep in the park and not worry about someone messing with you.

        He worked as a meatcutter in a Wrigley’s supermarket.  He told me that when the riots broke out, he could not leave work for three days because it was that bad out there.  I remember him telling me that this store was burned down, that store suffered that amount of damage (I wish I could ask him more but he died in 2000).

        Up until I was 3 we lived in Detroit, mostly on Trumbull, not far from the former Tigers Stadium.  Then in 1976 my parents bought my grandparents’ house in the suburbs.  The apartment house on Trumbull where we lived burned down I think sometime in the late 70s.  Using Google Earth I can see that it’s just a vacant lot, next to a corner store.

        Dad also said that Highland Park used to be a really classy part of town.  I remember hearing in the 80s that it was pretty much a no-go zone.

        I’ve lived in Ohio, out near Amish country, for almost 20 years now.  I really don’t miss Detroit that much.  It’s so laid back out here, and what a difference I notice when I go visit relatives who are still in the Detroit area.

      • Jared…I think Oilspot just wrote the introduction to your book entitled,  “From Prosperity to Ruin, A Fifty Year Chronological Illustration of Detroit’s Destruction.”

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        The destruction of Detroit was thrown in high gear with blacks now electing the mayor and commissioners.  The school system absolutely collapsed during this time.

        Why would anyone expect the animals in Detroit to act like humans?  

        Blacks blamed the deterioration of cities like Detroit on racist White mayors, racist housing patterns,  racist White school systems, racist White cops and racist White teachers.  They told us how great it was going to be when they had control of the schools, the police dept. the city council and housing barriers were removed.

         Turned out exactly as planned.

        Bon  

        Two wonderful but sad images from the New Detroit:

        Image #1:  United Artists TheaterImage

        #2: National Bank of Detroit.

        http://www.marchandmeffre.com/detroit/

        Humans did not do this to Detroit, the damage and destruction were caused by beasts and savages.

  • crystal evans

    I wonder if the governor of Michigan needs to send the Michigan National Guard to patrol the streets of Detroit?

    • Oil Can Harry

      Not a good idea. As “ncpride” noted, those troops would come under attack from local thugs.    

      When the troops eventually retaliate the “community” would turn on them immediately, including the locals who requested the Guard in the first place.

      • crystal evans

        You are probably right. If you want to see Black Detroiters at their finest. I recommend watching a show called Hardcore Pawn that is about a pawnshop off of eight mile road in Detroit. These people do not want to understand why they cannot get the amount they want on a loan using an old laptop computer or fake jewelry as collateral.

  • bluffcreek1967

    Cities like Detroit that are dominated by Blacks are always in need of ‘ground troops patrolling the streets.’ That’s because they can’t live in peace with their own kind or with other races. They are impulsive, horrifically ignorant, unpredictable and morally unstable. How often do White or Asian communities need to have ground troops patrolling their streets? The very fact that such extreme measures are requested in Black cities shows there is something fundamentally different about them. Many Whites don’t wish to acknowledge this ‘cuz dat be racisss,’ but the facts of human experience have demonstrated it throughout history. Our fore-fathers were much wiser than we give them credit for.   

    • That reminds me of the sanction that Miami Beach placed upon blacks.  At least up to the early 60s, blacks were not allowed on the whole of Miami Beach at night, with one rare exception, they were given a work permit.  Even still, they had to leave right after work and go straight across one of the bridges.  Miami Beach, a separate city from Miami, had one of the nation’s low crime rates at the time.  Chalk it up to the wisdom of our fore-fathers.

      As most people know, there was a high number of Jews making up the population.  As they died out and the remaining politicians, clergy, etc became more liberal, they made it easier for blacks and hispanics to live there, even building low income housing.  Crime is now a major issue and if you hunt on Youtube for Miami Beach Urban Party you will find, yes of all things, South Florida’s own Freaknik.  And if you don’t know what that is, you are in for a treat, find videos on Atlanta’s Freaknik.

  • JohnEngelman

    Urban civilization breeds a population for law obedience because over a period of centuries those with criminal inclinations are removed from the gene pool. Although the ancestors of American Negroes began practicing agriculture three thousand years ago, they never developed indigenous urban civilizations equivalent to the Incas and the Aztecs. Large numbers of them only began living in cities during the last century.

    • Yeah, but you won’t find such a behavior among peoples- hunters-gatherers- who only recently came to the cities. Inuits/Eskimos in Denmark and Iceland, various peoples (Chukchee, Samoyeds, Evenks, …) in Siberia, …even Sioux and Apaches, when living in Minneapolis or Oklahoma City do not behave in such an idiotic & destructive manner.

      • JohnEngelman

        In their book, “The 10,000 Year Explosion: How Civilization Accelerated Human Evolution,”   University of Utah professors Gregory Cochran and Henry Harpending attribute the lower crime rates of whites and Orientals to a larger number of generations separating them from from the paleolithic era than the number of generations that separate Negroes from a paleolithic way of life.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
        http://www.amren.com/ar/2009/05/index.html                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                      
        In his essay, “RACE, EVOLUTION, AND BEHAVIOR: A Life History Perspective,” Professor J. Philippe Rushton University of Western Ontario claims that life in a colder climate was the main factor that differentiated whites and Orientals from Negroes.          
                                                                                                                                                                               
        http://www.charlesdarwinresearch.org/Race_Evolution_Behavior.pdf                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                         
        It seems likely to me that both factors contributed. Although North American Indians and the other peoples you named did not build cities they did have to survive frigid winters, and Negroes in Africa did not. 

    • This_Name_Doesnt_Exist

      So when Whites came out of the country and built the cities in this country, were drive-by musketings commonplace, John?

      Just one century ago more Americans lived in rural areas than urban, and the population didn’t register two-thirds urban until the 1950 Census. 

      It has nothing to do with whether or not you live in the city.  Are you suggesting that people in rural areas are more prone to lawlessness?  Then why aren’t they overrun with criminal mischief?

      • JohnEngelman

        You missed my point. Over a period of many centuries the criminal justice systems of civilized nations removes those with criminal inclinations from the gene pool. Moreover, civilization selects for superior intelligence. In a paleolithic or neolithic society the best hunters and warriors frequently have more than one wife, so the best killers have the most children. 

  • KenelmDigby

    Blacks really are pathetic.
    That’s the right word to use ‘pathetic’.

  • Shawn_thefemale

    Here are the excerpts that  make the story a valid explanation for stereotypes:

    ‘Fight over a seat’.       Typical argument over the most trivial of things

    ‘at a baby shower’        Even at gatherings of people who are supposed to be connected by friendship, family, etc.; not strangers or enemies. And invited.  It doesn’t matter.

    ‘as he slept on the couch’  …  ‘about 4:30 a.m.’    Not in  a bed.  And  assaults at 4:30 am.

    ‘AK-47-type assault rifle’ .  Nuff said.

    ‘Delric’s grandmother’… Always the grandmother.   Never the mother.

    ‘The shower was overbooked.’      As per usual.  Plus, more people + more gifts.

    “A woman got mad… started knocking tables down,’     The typical genteel, respectable black female behavior.

    And, the most celebrated example of all:
    “We need”

    Congratulations to the soon-arriving newest member of this tribe.

    • bluffcreek1967

      Excellent points! Once you break down the article in that way, one really begins to see things they would have missed in a casual read. And, of course, all the typical indicators of Black character and behavior become apparent! 

    • Priceless. And yes, I also noticed grandma.

  • Who lets a 9-month old sleep on a couch?  Who holds a baby shower at 4:30 in the morning?

    As if I had to ask.

    Re this business about a baby shower being “overbooked” — I did not know that baby showers were like airline seats, a limited quantity which could not be exceeded even by one.  Also, it feels like us taxpayers are the real guests at this baby shower, because thanks to our EBT cards, we will be providing this child’s needs, unless the mother hawks the EBT benefits for guns, alcohol or tobacco, like they do in Cleveland:

    http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigations/ohio-food-stamp-recipients-waste-millions-of-us-tax-dollars-buying-buy-guns-drugs-beer

    (Warning:  It’s not just corner fly by night operations doing this.  I am told that the mainstream supermarket chain in Arizona accepts SNAP-EBT for cigs and booze.)

    • Shawn_thefemale

      The shower wasn’t at 4:30 a.m. It was earlier that night; the assault on the house happened at 4:30. I almost made the same assumption until I re-read the story.

  • ageofknowledge

    Mrs. Wilkins,

    I empathize with your loss. No one should have to experience that. Though this might not be the best time, and I ask you to forgive me for pointing it out, these were all nice neighborhoods once and could be again if the residents chose to make them so.

    Posting U.S. troops in your neighborhood is not the answer Mrs. Wilkins. The residents of your neighborhood coming together and making the neighborhood livable and safe is the answer.

  • MekongDelta69

    Perfectly said.

    …and the city destroyed (if it were possible to destroy Detroit)

    That’s not possible, unless you used a tac nuke or a bunch of Daisy Cutters or Bunker Busters.
    It was destroyed in ’67.

  • The issue of Henry Ford and black immigration to Detroit was a difficult one for me.  I do have to admit to no direct knowledge of this, as I left at 2 years old in 1956.  Although it is interesting to note that Henry Ford had left nearby Dearborn at this time and at least the family all had moved or would move to Grosse Point- well away from what was happening in Detroit.  In addition his magnificent winter home was located in Sarasota Florida, next to Edison’s estate.  I know that his willingness to hire blacks was a pet peeve of all of my relatives.  If this is true, and again, I do not have the historical knowledge to know, Ford’s hiring practices at the time were probably much like the US army, limited to lowest form of labor.  Ford’s auto plants did everything from smelting the iron ore to final detailing, so there were plenty of low knowledge labor jobs during the process.  My personal opinion is that if any of this is true, he never intended the current outcome.  Just as it is one of my favorite beliefs that almost to a one, if both the North and South in 1860 could somehow view our society today, our reality would be much different and there certainly would have never been a civil war.

    This idea of builing a researched testament of truth to what has happened in Detroit has significant appeal to all of the West. It spans a time when blacks were contained and of no danger at all through a period of “enlightenment” where Western society frankly turned its Christian morals against itself. The use of the word testament is no accident, it is the difference between an old testament story where it seems that protecting one’s tribe was a good thing and the outcome from the new where the opposite seems suicidal. I hesitate to bring religion into this but it was in my life that I noticed that the clergy were either unwitting, accidental agents or culpable members in allowing this new socialistic covenant to destroy Western civilization. This after almost 2000 years of fighting to preserve it.  Detroit to me appears as one of numerous examples.

  • JohnEngelman

    It seems likely that the expansion of the Bantu-speaking people from their core region in Cameroon began around 1000 BC. Although early models posited that the early speakers were both iron using and agricultural, archaeology has shown that they did not use iron until as late as 400 BC, though they were agricultural.[21]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantu_migration#c._1000_BC_to_c._500_AD                      
                                                                                                                                                                           
    Paleolithic people are hunter gatherers. Neolithic people continue to get much of their calories from hunting, while they also practice primitive agriculture. They do not build cities. 

  • As the old Jews died, the younger generation just about handed Miami Beach over to hispanics and blacks.  This is the same generation that pushed for liberalized immigration in the mid 60s.