Rep. Ros-Lehtinen: Pivotal Hispanic Vote Deserting Obama

Martin Gould and Ashley Martella, Newsmax, November 30, 2011

Hispanic voters will desert Barack Obama at the next election because he has failed to provide the hope and change he promised and Republicans are their natural party anyway, leading Cuban-American Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen tells Newsmax.

Too many people think that immigration is the only thing Latinos are concerned about but that is simply not true, the House Foreign Affairs chairwoman said in the exclusive interview.

“The Republican party is the party of small government, less government intrusion, small businesses, more economic freedom, and that goes to the heart of what the Hispanic community is all about,” the Florida legislator said.

“The growth in Hispanic small businesses in the United States is phenomenal and it’s because we’re seeing the opportunities exist,” she added. “The party needs to tailor its message, we don’t have to change our principles, but just be unafraid to appeal to the Hispanic voter.

“We tend to think that the Hispanic voter is all about immigration and if you’re not for amnesty, if you’re not for a comprehensive immigration reform, you won’t get the Hispanic vote. That is not true at all.

“Hispanics are pro-business, they’re very much pro-family and pro-community and they’re for safe schools and against drugs–all great American values. We should appeal to those voters all the time.

“Hispanics are a natural for the Republican party.”

Ros-Lehtinen, who was born in Havana and fled Fidel Castro’s regime as an 8-year-old with her parents, says that the Hispanic vote will be nothing like the more than 2-1 margin that sided with Obama over John McCain in 2008.

“The overwhelming Hispanic support is not going to be with Obama this time because they’re not going to be as enthusiastic to go out to vote,” she said.

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  • Anonymous

    You would be surprised by how many Hispanics I know who:

    A) Have turned against Obama,equating him as a liar

    B) Dislike African Americans with a passion

    C) Think welfare is a crock and that people need to work

    and D) actually like white people and have few to no problems with us (after all, we’re the ones who give them jobs.)

    Of course I would rather they go back to their own countries, but if my nation is destined to turn into a non-white place I would rather have people in charge who at least hold some of our core values.

  • Seek

    The idea that the GOP can’t win without the Hispanic vote, suppoedly “natural Republicans,” is attractive only to those who ignore reality. The truth is that with exception of Miami-Dade County Cuban ethnics, there isn’t a single Hispanic bloc out there that reliably have produced even close to a majority Republican vote. Certain Jack Kemp/Karl Rove/Newt Gingrich “conservatives,” hungry for self-flattery, imagine a golden opportunity wasted if we don’t “reach out” to Hispanics. I’ve got an alternative idea: How about reaching out to the white vote?

  • Question Diversity

    Obama will still get a heavy majority of the Hispanic vote in 2012. It will be slightly lower than his take of the Hispanic vote in 2008, only because Hispanic swings mirror white swings.

    “Hispanics are a natural for the Republican party.”

    Former New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson, when asked about the desire of most Hispanic voters from the political process: “Fully funded welfare programs.”

  • Anonymous

    This is absolute nonsense. Hispanics are going to vote for Obama overwhelmingly. Sure, first generation Hispanics are hard working, moral, appreciate being in American, and have great ambition for their children. But that is the first generation, and subsequent generations become radicalized, develop a sense of victimization and entitlement and lean to hate the white man. Half of Hispanics drop out of high school, half their births are illegitimate – not a recipe for success.

    And above all, Karl Rove is an idiot. The only thing that blacks and browns will bring to this country in the long run is a bankrupt socialist (Democratic controlled) state of balkanized factions continually in conflict.

  • English Tony from NYC

    The term “Hispanic” is misleading in that it includes many Cubans, Puerto Ricans, and others who look white and think that they’re white: because they *are* white.

    The MSM would have us believe that all Hispanics are squat mestizos from Central America. Whites of pure Spanish descent, and there are many, are our natural allies because they *are* us.

    As other commenters have noted, these whites appear to have a particular antipathy toward African-Americans.

  • Anonymous

    Middle Class HISPANICS are natural conservatives.

    Underclass AMERINDS are natural replacements for blacks as the left’s slave caste/vote bank/irregular army.

  • Conrad

    “Hispanics are a natural for the Republican party.”

    Yes, of course they are. Because the Republican Party is anti-White.

    http://www.wvwnews.net/printer.php?id=10691

  • Jefferson

    Dislike African Americans with a passion

    Where I live, most Hispanics are Puerto Rican and they do not hate African Americans. A high percentage of Puerto Ricans even mix with African Americans, especially Puerto Rican women.

  • patthemick

    The Republicans going after the Hispanic vote make sense but will ultimately fail. The Hispanics want open borders and nothing will kill a Republican candidate faster than being weak on immigration.

    The result is that most will vote for the Democrat and the Republicans will have to become the nativist party and really get busy deporting the illegals or slowly be swept away by a brown tsunami.

    The white Hispanics see themselves eventually ruling over their darker relations just like in Mexico so will want more of them here.

  • madison grant

    “Hispanics are a natural for the Republican Party.”

    Then why have the majority of them voted for the Dems in every presidential election in US history?

    BTW the poster (#2) who called Karl Rove an idiot was being way too kind.

  • Anonymous

    Here we go again…the old “Hispanics are natural Republicans” bull. They have a high usage of food stamps, welfare, medicaid, SSI, public housing, Section 8. They have a high crime rate. A gang problem. A high illegitamacy rate. Lawsuit abuse. Puerto Rico has 3 of the top 10 highest zip codes for SSI. High dropout rate. Right, natural Republicans. I never liked Ros-Lehtinen. I despise Karl Rove. I know she was born in Cuba, but is she Hispanic?

  • Anonymous

    “The MSM would have us believe that all Hispanics are squat mestizos from Central America. Whites of pure Spanish descent, and there are many, are our natural allies because they *are* us.”

    There are not many. There are about 5% of Hispanics who are White in the U.S. And most of them have been here a long time. The other 95% have come mostly since 1980 and they are not White. Many of you who are all for, or are at least tolerant of Hispanics coming to the U.S are dreaming. I have spent four years of my life traveling in Latin American. I like most Latin Americans. However the Mestizo culture will never be able to live with Northern European derived people’s without severe conflict.

  • Ann Onymous

    Few people seem to notice the fact that even Hispanic Republican politicians (like Ileana Ros-Lehtinen) have abysmal voting records on immigration and related issues. And yet this woman would have us believe that Hispanics will vote GOP and be “conservatives”. There just isn’t any evidence of that.

  • Eye of Horus

    Oh, sure the hispanics are republicans! So are the Martians!

    Why don’t those racist republicans ever go after the Green Vote of Martians? Is it the High IQ that makes them ignore the Martians?

    Seriously, though.

    What do Cubans know about hispanics? Mexico is about as different from Cuba as Mars is to Earth…

  • Jefferson

    English Tony from NYC wrote at 6:44 PM on December 1:

    The term “Hispanic” is misleading in that it includes many Cubans, Puerto Ricans, and others who look white and think that they’re white: because they *are* white. The MSM would have us believe that all Hispanics are squat mestizos from Central America. Whites of pure Spanish descent, and there are many, are our natural allies because they *are* us. As other commenters have noted, these whites appear to have a particular antipathy toward African-Americans

    Most Puerto Ricans and most Cubans are not White. You have obviously have never step foot on those 2 islands. Most Caribbean Hispanics are Mulattos/Triracials/Negroids. A lot of race mixing between the Spaniards and the African slaves took place in Cuba and Puerto Rico.

    Puerto Rico and Cuba are not some White Aryan island paradise. I have been to the city of Havana, and it racially looks more like New Orleans than it does like Barcelona.

  • fred

    The New York Times recently wrote an article discussing how the democratic strategists have openly admitted to abandoning the white working class after decades of failing to win them over. How many decades will it take before Republic strategists realize they can’t win over the Hispanic working class? Given the economic status of most Hispanics that’s pretty much all of them.

    I doubt Republican strategists even believe their own crap about winning the Hispanic vote. I think they know the truth and are just trying to pull the wool over white voters’ eyes. Why would they do this? Because their real constituent is big business and big business wants cheap, immigrant wage slaves.

  • Anonymous

    This is just not true. Whites want to believe it, but in the end, they all come here for social services. 60% of HUD housing goes to illegals. Obama just abandoned whites in favor of hispanics and others.

  • HH

    Look at this woman’s photograph at the top of her web-page!!!

    http://ros-lehtinen.house.gov/

    What a farce! This woman has about as much in common with the average “Hispanic/Latino”(aka Mestizo/Amerind)as I do with the average Martian!!

    More GOP establishment baloney meant to woo the Brown vote!

  • Sardonicus

    Middle Class Cubans and white Hispanics may be “natural for the Republican party”, but the great majority of Cholos, mestizos, and mullatos are not. These folks will vote their interests and they are for more government handouts to the lower classes. It is fact that most non-white minorities vote Democratic. This explains why the Democrats are so supportive of unrestrictive immigration.

  • olewhitelady

    As others have pointed out here, the term “Hispanic” covers more than one ethnicity in the U.S. Most Cuban-Americans are whites of Spanish origin. Many Puerto Ricans and most Dominicans have African heritage. Most of the problematic people from south of the border are mestizoes.

    IMO, the importance of Hispanics to both major parties will be a matter of turnout. If pro-illegal, mostly Mexican-American voters come out in large numbers, Obama will benefit. However, as in the case of blacks, their enthusiasm will not be as great as it was last time.

    Whites must be the most enthusiastic ethnic group next Presidential election. Obama must not be reelected for a term in which he will likely run roughshod over the interests of whites, without even a worry about the next go-round.

  • Jack in Chicago

    This woman is a White Hispanic. The first wave of refugees from Castro’s Cuba were White Hispanics. White Hispanics are definitely a branch of our people and a very good branch, with strong histories of fighting pro White wars against Arab Muslim Moors in Spain and nasty human sacrificing Aztec Indians in Mexico.

    We of course have differences of opinions with White Hispanics who want to drive away all their poor Indians/Mestizos out of Mexico, Latin America and in to White areas of the United States, but that’s just an understandable different perspective.

    With White Hispanics like this Cuban American lady – yeah, get to know them, have your children go to school with their children. Learn some Spanish, even intermarry with White Hispanics. White Hispanic women are some of the most beautiful women in the world and more traditional, better wives for White American guys, than bitter, no fun feminist, career American women.

    But, don’t start going stupid and believe the lying PR that Hispanics are natural Republican voters, Catholic family values stuff. The big problem with the 10-20 million Hispanic illegal aliens is that they are not White – they are low IQ Mestizos or Indians. That’s racial realities.

  • white is right, black is whack

    The Republican party is the party of small government, less government intrusion, small businesses, more economic freedom, and that goes to the heart of what the Hispanic community is all about,” the Florida legislator said.

    The same Republican Party who voted in favor of the Civil Rights Act which forced businesses to do business with people they didn’t want to? The same Republican Party that created Affirmative Action that forced businesses to accept candidates based on race and gender instead of letting companies decide for themselves who they want to do business with? The same Republican Party that has had members wanting to give in-state tuition to illegals at (white) taxpayers expense? That one?

    “The growth in Hispanic small businesses in the United States is phenomenal and it’s because we’re seeing the opportunities exist,” she added. “The party needs to tailor its message, we don’t have to change our principles, but just be unafraid to appeal to the Hispanic voter.

    It exists because whites aren’t having as many white kids and because of illegal hispanic immigration to this country because the Republican Party wants the cheap labor and hires illegals. I don’t wish to appeal to people who broke in here illegally, who won’t speak English and who call me a racist while wanting benefits for only Hispanics and for people with Spanish names.

    “We tend to think that the Hispanic voter is all about immigration and if you’re not for amnesty, if you’re not for a comprehensive immigration reform, you won’t get the Hispanic vote. That is not true at all.

    The Hispanic population wants more Hispanics here to take over the country just as blacks want a black president, etc. When will whites wake up and look out for their own and do so unashamedly like we used to?

    “Hispanics are pro-business, they’re very much pro-family and pro-community and they’re for safe schools and against drugs—all great American values. We should appeal to those voters all the time.

    Sure, if you consider the fact they only hire their own and they take jobs away from legalized American workers (of all races) and don’t follow the same regulations and laws (white) employers and (white) landlords have to.

    “Hispanics are a natural for the Republican party.”

    Yeah, for the ones who are neocons it is.

    “The overwhelming Hispanic support is not going to be with Obama this time because they’re not going to be as enthusiastic to go out to vote,” she said.

    Only because he isn’t kissing their butts like they want him to.

    Any more questions or comments?

  • Dom

    To talk about Hispanics is like putting White Americans and Black Americans in one box and call them Americans. Hispanics are divided. You have black, brown, white. But the most important divide is between white and brown or mestizo. So it would be nice to know how many are there and which race they are. Maybe not half of Hispanics in the US is white as some reports puts it but white Hispanics exist and they are natural voters for Republicans. Brown is the new black, maybe somewhat better, but essentialy the same. New Democrat voters.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/Multitud_Crespo.jpg

    These are also Hispanics. Do you have problem whith their race?

  • Anonymous

    I don’t believe that many hispanics will change their vote. On the average, they are less hostile to whites than blacks, but that does not change their political views. Where I live in S. Cal, I am exposed to Mexicans every day. There are individuals who work hard and get along well with whites. Not all of them do that, but a signficant number. On the occasion I see a black work hard and get along with whites, they are hatefully scorned by other blacks as an Uncle Tom.

  • Question Diversity

    21 White Is Right, quoting Ros-Lethinen:

    The Republican party is the party of small government, less government intrusion, small businesses, more economic freedom, and that goes to the heart of what the Hispanic community is all about,” the Florida legislator said.

    Except most Republicans in power give us bigger government, more government intrusion, policies that tend to favor larger industries (as much as we pick on John Engelman, he is generally right about that), and less economic freedom.

    But Hispanics will almost always vote heavily Democrat because the Democrats want government even bigger even faster than Republicans, even the worst RINO types.

    BTW, “Ros-Lethinen” is a strange Spanish surname. Lethinen actually sounds Finnish.

  • What_I_Believe

    ANON 1, you summed up a lot of what I believe. If I could snap my fingers and turn this entire country White, I would in a heart beat. However, since that can’t or won’t happen, I side with what I believe to be generally decent people.

    My general concern is us making Hispanics dislike us more than some do (because they know some of us don’t like them or want them here.)

    I think we have enough on our plates with the blacks. (which we can’t even handle)

    Btw, If you think so opposite, check the profile of the attackers for next 50 flash mob incidents.

  • neanderthalDNA

    The smart – mainly Caucasian – Hispanics should go Republican and be perfectly OK with closing the floodgates and deporting less Caucasian Hispanics who cause problems or just don’t belong here, especially in these economic times.

    Caucasian racial hyper-particularism, by the way, especially in the American context, is as dangerous and sure a route to racial suicide as is white shame/self loathing evinced by duckspeaking lib-lefty ideologues.

  • Bebe

    26 — What_I_Believe wrote at 4:23 PM on December 2:

    ANON 1, you summed up a lot of what I believe. If I could snap my fingers and turn this entire country White, I would in a heart beat. However, since that can’t or won’t happen, I side with what I believe to be generally decent people.

    My general concern is us making Hispanics dislike us more than some do (because they know some of us don’t like them or want them here.)

    I think we have enough on our plates with the blacks. (which we can’t even handle)

    Btw, If you think so opposite, check the profile of the attackers for next 50 flash mob incidents.

    ______________________

    I notice you always say about the same thing when it concerns Hispanics. Are you one or married to one?

    I, for one, am tired of those like you who say WE cannot do anything about the “hispanics” in our nation. I am sure you also believe that we cannot deport 20 million illegals, right?

    It would be easy to deport them all, yet all we hear is that it is impossible. They will self deport if we got tough with them and gave them nothing. Any fool can see that is the only way. Then seal our borders just like we let the Israelis do. (We also paid for theirs!)

    Yet, we have some on here who mimic the “conservative” talk show hosts who ALWAYS say we cannot deport millions, so let’s give them a “pathway” to citizenship. Is that what you have bought into? If so, then I will disregard all your posts on here. I am tired of people such as you, saying we can’t do this or do that. YES, WE CAN and WILL.

    ———————–

    This sentence from you really took the cake!!

    “My general concern is us making Hispanics dislike us more than some do (because they know some of us don’t like them or want them here.)”

    —————–

    They dislike us MORE because we don’t like them or want them here? OF COURSE. That’s the ticket. They never have liked Whites so quit with your little “theory”. You sound like another “it’s Whitey’s fault” fool.

    No, I do not like them here or want them here. Are you satisfied now?

  • Anonymous

    Poster #1 and #26 please read this post from #11 and try to feed us your bull once more.

    ———————————————-

    11 — Anonymous wrote at 8:17 PM on December 1:

    Here we go again…the old “Hispanics are natural Republicans” bull. They have a high usage of food stamps, welfare, medicaid, SSI, public housing, Section 8. They have a high crime rate. A gang problem. A high illegitamacy rate. Lawsuit abuse. Puerto Rico has 3 of the top 10 highest zip codes for SSI. High dropout rate. Right, natural Republicans. I never liked Ros-Lehtinen. I despise Karl Rove. I know she was born in Cuba, but is she Hispanic?

    ————————-

    I always thought Puerto Ricans have some or half black blood in their veins. They sure look like it and act like it for the most part.

  • Luke

    I have two words for anyone in the AR and pro-white community who believes one single word of this bull manure: Ruben Navarrette.

    For those Whites who aren’t yet familiar with this guy, I suggest that you google him up and read a few of his virulently anti-white, venom oozing, hate-whitey articles. This hustler, who is of Mexican origins – is a reflection of the arrogant attitudes of the vast majority of his ethnic group who have slithered across the border since the mid-to-late 1970s.

    Hint: He has the idea that Whites should carry their hiney’s back to Europe, and any resistance or opposition of ANY kind by White Europeans to having the nation which was founded and built by THEIR 100 percent WHITE ANCESTORS and not by the ancestors of Navarrette – and which those 100 percent White ancestors intended to pass down to their direct ethnic posterity – and NOT to hordes of non-whites from every failed third world nation on this planet – well, according to Navarrette and other minority race hustlers of his ilk – Whites are ‘racist’ if they are unwilling to let their nation be stolen from them by non-White invaders from Mexico or the rest of the third world.

    That’s right. “America” is a nation consisting of a large piece of geographic territory, located in the Northern Hemisphere – and according to Navarrette, this piece of territory has no name on the deed next to the word ‘owner’. It’s unclaimed land that is up for grabs by any ethnic group of people on this entire planet who can manage to sneak across our borders in sufficient numbers and then place their feet upon American soil – and then declare that the ethnic group who created this nation and who’ve inhabited and dominated this continent for 400 plus years and who’ve called it their home and historic homelands – well, those folks were simply flea-bitten squatters and now it’s time to pack their pokes and get their white fannies back to Europe, because Ruben Navarrette’s Mexicans are taking over. Yea, right.

    Two points in order to conclude. First, Hispanics own and control and dominate every square inch of geographic territory from the southern edge of the US-Mexican border, all the way down to the remote tip of South America. That constitutes far more land mass than which constitutes North America and that is PLENTY of land upon which Navarrette and his ethnic cousins can live, dominate and call all the shots. North America belongs to the direct posterity of the 100 percent White European Founding Fathers and we will NOT surrender it without bloody fight. Secondly, articles like this one are classic disinformation – and are designed to try to con the GOP into abandoning their long overdue, increasingly hard line and CORRECT positions on fighting this illegal alien colonization and settlement of America, primarily by swarms of Mexicans – who will become life-long Democrat voters and help the Democrats assume permanent, unbreakable, one party totalitarian control over the United States of America.

    News flash to the GOP: You have been dubbed The Stupid Party in the past. Well, it is time for you idiots to begin to shed that derogatory label and demonstrate to your rapidly dwindling followers that there are a few active, functioning brain cells in your heads. If not, then the GOP deserves to be destroyed, root and branch.

    The A3P can take their place. In fact, after the GOP support for un-Constitutional, totalitarianism like ‘indefinite detention’ of American citizens, this party needs to be totally destroyed and rendered permanently extinct.

  • Anonymous

    I second all the posts pointing out how the term Hispanic is way too vague and includes quite a varied group. But also that the great majority are non-white and not likely to ever be majority Republican while the white/mostly-white minority of ‘Hispanics’ could be. And lastly that the GOP should not pander to ‘Hispanics’ on immigration but be hard as nails against illegal immigration and should come out against massive legal immigration as well.

    On that last point if the GOP needs to emphasize the unemployment issue, the budget deficit/welfare spending issue, population growth/environmental issue etc, so be it in this PC world. We will know that the demographic change/’elect a new people’ issue, which they fear to address explicitly will be served as well.

    In that context I present this recent article.

    WEEKLY STANDARD

    Morning Jay: Obama’s Reelection Strategy Is Riddled With Problems

    [excerpt]

    http://goo.gl/bq3BG

    2. Hispanics are not secure. I’ve pointed out before that “emerging Democratic majority” theorists (like Teixeira) make a category error when they talk about Democratic strength among “non-white” voters. There are important differences within this overly-broad category.

    African Americans are loyally Democratic, in that they back the party in roughly the same numbers through thick and thin. “Non-white” voters who are not African American – e.g. Asians and Hispanics – do not behave in this manner. They are, rather, swing groups that have a Democratic tilt. In other words, the Democratic share of this group goes up and down, depending on the party’s overall position in the country:

    [CLICK FOR CHART]

    http://goo.gl/zUsCE

    As we can see, in good GOP years (e.g. 1988) or neutral years (e.g. 2000 and 2004), Republicans can win up to two-fifths of this bloc, while in bad years (e.g. 1992 and 2008) it struggles even to get to a third.

    As 2012 is shaping up to be, at best, a neutral year, Democrats shouldn’t bank on doing as well with these voters as they did in 2008. In fact, Obama’s standing with Hispanics is quite tenuous at the moment, as the Gallup poll indicates:

    [CLICK FOR CHART]

    http://goo.gl/bSPFK

    Notice how Hispanics move with the general population while African Americans stand roughly still. That’s what I mean when I say that Hispanics are a swing group with a pro-Democratic tilt.