Study Reveals Racial Segregation in Online Dating

Chelsea-Lyn Rudder, The Grio, November 15, 2011

When it comes to online dating, segregation appears to be alive and well. After analyzing more than one million profiles on a mainstream dating website, researchers at the University of California Berkeley, concluded that whites are highly unlikely to initiate contact with black people.

Even when their profiles indicate that they are indifferent about the race or ethnicity of a potential romantic interest. The researchers expected to find homophily, a social science term which means love of the same, in their analysis but they were surprised that the internet did not play a role in eroding reluctance to date outside one’s own race.

“When the constraints of segregation are lifted by technology, what do people do? They don’t act all that differently,” said Gerald Mendelsohn, PhD, one of the professors who worked on the study. “Segregation remains a state of mind as much as it is a physical reality.”

The study indicates that more than 80 percent of the communication initiated by whites was to other whites. Only 3 percent went to blacks. Black members of the same site were more open to dating whites and were ten times more likely to contact whites. Black men were actually slightly more likely to initiate contact with white women than black women.

Professor Mendelsohn, attributed this to the influence of cultural imperatives on all American men. “In this country, our notions of feminine attractiveness are based almost entirely on images of white women . . . the hypothesis that some people have argued is that there is no surprise that black men should contact white women, because that’s where we get our notions of who’s pretty.”

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According to the U.C Berkeley research, a collaboration between Professor Mendelsohn, Coye Cheshire, Andrew T. Fiore and Lindsay Shaw Taylor, black women were the least likely group of those discussed in the study, to be contacted on the unnamed dating site. {snip}

“If you are a black woman on Match.com and you’re not going to initiate contact then you are not going to date. That’s just the reality,” said Worthy-Davis from her home in Brooklyn. {snip}

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According to a 2009 analysis, black women, on OkCupid.com a dating website that does not charge a subscription fee; get the “cold shoulder” from everyone, including their black male counterparts.

The cold shoulder comment was based upon the fact that black women receive the fewest replies on the site, even though they are the most likely to reply. {snip}

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The U.C. Berkeley research indicates that although black women were much more likely than their white counterparts to contact someone of another race, they still primarily sought to contact black men.

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  • Anonymous

    “Segregation remains a state of mind as much as it is a physical reality.”

    That should read:

    “Race remains a physical reality as much as it is a state of mind.”

  • Concerned Citizen

    ‘Professor Mendelsohn, attributed this to the influence of cultural imperatives on all American men. “In this country, our notions of feminine attractiveness are based almost entirely on images of white women … the hypothesis that some people have argued is that there is no surprise that black men should contact white women, because that’s where we get our notions of who’s pretty.”’

    I tend to think that White women are just naturally pretty. However, I actually agree with Mendelsohn premise. Let’s make all White women ugly when it comes to advertisements, TV shows and movies so that Black men can once again chase after Black women, like they are meant to.

    It might be in Whites favour to add to the myth that Black women are pretty, hard working and not, loud mouthed, bitter and generally over weight. Although that might also have the reverse effect on men from other races choosing to date Black women too…So maybe not.

    On the rest of the study this is quite the positive. I still wish it was 100 % of Whites staying within their own race, though.

  • Phil

    You see where your $40 K goes mom and dad when you send your kids to “collich?”

    More “studies” to tell you the obvious. As if any sane white person downgrades to the most retrograde species of hominid.

    Universities are nothing but huge scams unless you study something like engineering.

  • Anonymous

    “they were surprised that the internet did not play a role in eroding reluctance to date outside one’s own race”

    Why were they surprised? The person making the choice still has to date the real live person.

  • Anonymous

    Preference and prejudice are not the same things. In any case whites can only lose from inter-racial pairings. Blacks can only win.

  • Madison Grant

    Studies repeatedly show black women and Oriental men getting the least dates, and I have some sympathy for them.

    Although Republican presidential candidate Herm Insain married a “sista”, he usually sexually harasses blondes.

  • Question Diversity

    I wonder which was more likely, that a black man tried to contact a white woman, or a white woman tried to contact a black man. I bet the former, ergo BM-WF couples are mainly a result of BM pressure on white women.

  • AO

    If I was a white woman I’d definitely avoid such dating websites. I mean, I think that they are stupid in the first place but it must be 100 times worse for a white woman. Imagine being hit on all the time by guys you are not in the least bit interested in.

    *shudder*

  • Anonymous

    “When the constraints of segregation are lifted by technology, what do people do? They don’t act all that differently…”

    “Segregation remains a state of mind as much as it is a physical reality.”

    ~Gerald Mendelsohn, PhD

    Tell me, Prof. Mendelsohn, is there a Mrs. Mendelsohn? There is, you say? And what, if I may be so rude as to inquire, is Mrs. Mendelsohn’s first name? Is it something like “DeLaToy’ah” or “LaQu’ii’sha”? Or is it something more like “Esther” or “Golda”?

  • Anonymous

    whites are highly unlikely to initiate contact with black people.

    How many whites really crave more contact with blacks? Blacks do most of the “initiating” of inter-racial contact in real life or online. It’s not like whites are chasing blacks around suburbs, school districts, etc. Even white liberals often wish they had less “contact with black people”.

  • Seek

    If this article isn’t the essence of hack egalitarian journalism, then I don’t know what is. What the author calls “segregation” is simply the inevitability of mating behavior asserting itself. Notice how only whites are presumed guilty — in contrast, of course, to those warm, cuddly, open-minded blacks, eager to initiate interracial contact (the fact that such contact might be rooted in sinister motive is a separate issue).

    I do confess feeling a certain sadness for black women, given that their logical partners, black men, are off on a trophy hunt for the best white women.

  • Dutchman

    These studies are always fascinating, but it I want to ask the DWLs “why all the hand wringing?” Their plan to completely displace Whites-including their own children-proceeds at a gallop and they care what people are doing on dating sites.

    The post-modern Marxist is as bad, if not worse, than any of the religious systems throughout history. I’m sure many Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, ect were busy-bodies that would rat on their neighbors to the religious police, but the Marxists take the cake. They are obsessed with controlling all aspects of human behavior. It’s good to see that their attempts at thought control have only succeeded on a superficial level and when left to our own devices we will self-segregate.

    Though the DWLs perform the research, we should say “thanks!” and promptly rub their faces in it. They just prove that racial feelings are natural and that self-loathing is unnatural.

  • HH

    This is one of the more revolting articles I’ve read in some time. It’s not enough that we Whites have endured decades of brow-beating, insults, fiscal-rape, cultural-inversion, and all manner of madness in the name of “righting past wrongs,” “Diversity,” “inclusion,” and all the other Orwellian lunatic ideas and such to placate and “uplift” Blacks. Now, to add enormous insult to injury, Whites are STILL to be attacked for – of all things – not wanting to DATE or co-habitate with Blacks! Yes, even who we choose for romantic partners must now be guided by the unwritten “laws” of Political Correctness, lest we be once again scolded for our hopeless bigotry!

    And says the good Professor, “In this country, our notions of feminine attractiveness are based almost entirely on images of white women…” Gee, I wonder why THAT is??? White women are essentially the gold-standard of beauty the world over! There is no “cultural influence” involved – one need only have EYES!!

    Just more White-guilt hogwash.

  • Ben N Indiana (AWG)

    Check my math, that mean means that blacks commit about the same number of murders as all other Americans combined.

    Assuming blacks constitute 12 percent of 100 percent of the population:

    100 ÷ 12 = 8.33

  • Anonymous

    So black men want white women more than they want black women. So who is to blame? White people brainwashed black men to be unattracted to their own women! That has to be it! (Oh, please.)

    But wait a minute, who are the white women that these black men are seeking? Almost 100% they are blonds. Not black-haired white women, but blonds. In my life I have seen hundreds of white female/black male pairings (because of where I live), and only ONE time did the white girl have black hair.

    So black men have a fixation on blond hair. I once read an article written by an Asian guy, explaining why so many Asians love white women (his observation), and he wrote that it was because “they have hair that is the color of the mid-day sun.” And LOTS of Asian men pine after blond white women, according to him, but have little luck for a variety of reasons. So is it the fault of white people that some Asian men loke blonds?

    Many, many white men have a preference (or lust) for blonds also. All this talk about blacks being ‘forced’ to prefer white beauty because it is ‘mainstream’ is hogwash. You cannot blame a country having a standard of beauty set by its historic majority. But more than that, pretty white women are sought after in Asia (read about it!) and western African men come over here and chase white women like there’s no tomorrow. Arab men in Scandanavia go after white women so much that some women even dye their hair black to protect themselves!

    People like what they like, and pretty white women seem to have the perfect balance of delicate and substance. Of course there are a lot of manly, feminist or raunchy white women nowadays, but that’s another story…

  • white is right, black is whack

    Now what? Are you going to ban white people from posting profiles if they say they only want to date whites? I’m sick of this stuff! There’s tons of dating sites for blacks only or Asians only and tons of meetup groups for nonwhites and gays only, but whites only and suddenly it’s hate?

  • Anonymous

    Anonymous #9 – Professor Mendelsohn is a widower. His wife’s name was Nancy and she died in 2004 at age 67. I don’t believe any of his family was black, to answer your query. I found a photo of their daughter online.

    I don’t know any of the Mendelsohns, but I am good at finding things on the Internet.

  • sbuffalonative

    Why is this an issue unless blacks are upset whites aren’t interested in dating them.

    I suspect this came up because black men and women were trying to date whites but found white men and women didn’t share their views on inter-racial dating.

    What blacks SHOULD be concerned about is why so many black men are more interested in white women than they are in black women and why more black women aren’t raising heck about it.

  • Anonymous

    Combine this with the article earlier this week (Nov 9 http://goo.gl/O2rfV ) stating that 3x as many black women think they’re “hot” compared to white women. Conclusion: black women are delusional or in denial.

  • Bob13

    The reason black men prefer white women is simple……..white women that date black men are weak, feeble minded and insecure, not to mention usually quite ugly and obese. These naive women are easy to manipulate, they usually work hard and get to pay all the bills in return for an ass smack and a tickle fight with the great black mamba.

    Weak minded backward, insecure white women are more responsible for pending destruction of the white race than any politician is, shun them an shun them hard

  • Awakened

    “The study indicates that more than 80 percent of the communication initiated by whites was to other whites. Only 3 percent went to blacks. Black members of the same site were more open to dating whites and were ten times more likely to contact whites. Black men were actually slightly more likely to initiate contact with white women than black women.

    Professor Mendelsohn, attributed this to the influence of cultural imperatives on all American men. “In this country, our notions of feminine attractiveness are based almost entirely on images of white women … the hypothesis that some people have argued is that there is no surprise that black men should contact white women, because that’s where we get our notions of who’s pretty.””

    *******************

    Fifty years ago, White women would have chosen Black men less than one-half of 1 percent of the time. The stats today are 3.5%. That’s a 700% increase.

    I completely disagree with Mendelsohn as to why Black men seek out White women more than Black women. White women are more feminine and far better looking than Black women. Black men, though 20 points lower on the IQ scale than White men, don’t need the influence of “cultural imperatives” to tell them that White women are more desirable. All they need are two eyes to see that. The problem is now they CAN go after White women, whereas in the past they COULDN’T.

  • Aaron from Rhode Island

    As a conservative Jewish geneticist and blogger, I have to disagree that blonde white women are the most beautiful in the world. That is just a western perception. Yes there maybe SOME Middle eastern adn Asian men who crave blondes, but by no means is that even remotely the vast majority. No more than SOME white men who prefer Asian, East Indian or Middle eastern women far more attractive than blondes and red heads. Infact, more than blondes being sought after by non white men, there is a thriving industry of Asian women who are desperately sought after by white men…from Japan, Thailand, Korea to the Indo Aryan beauties of North India, Iran, Turkey and central Asia.

    Infact at any given time there are more white men who come half way around the world for Asian women than Arab or anyother non white group seeking white women of any kind leave alone blondes. It is basically a personal prefernce and media glorification of blondes by the media that has made blonde the faux-Gold standard of beauty ( according to western standards). Infact it goes against the very strain of evolution and morphological adaptation for a sub-spieces of any organism to find it’s opposite gender less attractive than the other spieces. Thus, to state that ANY non white man prefers a blonde Nordic woman over his own would be tantamount to claiming that Male Tigers find Female Horses far more attractive than female Tigers!

    Imperialism and colonialism was a western venture and thus history and every norm in modern society is artifically dictated by western sensibilities – Eurocenteric world view. Thus anything white is automatically deemed superior, even if it maybe substandard in reality. The percentage of Europhiles from the non white world atleast in terms of beauty is a very small percentage. The media tends to glorify & sell blonde as the most floating currency in terms of good looks ( almost like the US dollar) – such observations are NOT objective. The fact is most Jewish men prefer beautiful dark haired, brown eyed high IQ Jewish women, most East Indians prefer beautiful East Indian women, most East Asians perfer beautiful East Asian women and most Africans ( IF not brainwashed by western influence) will biologically prefer to mate with their own spieces. Its fundamental biology 101. This explains the natural trend in online dating too…birds of the same feather, flock together!

  • wowzer

    it’s not a big deal that non black men are not contacting black women or that white people tend to be into their own. not to me anyways. that’s their preference. you can’t make someone attracted to someone they are not. i do agree though that the high number of black men contacting white women is because they have been bombarded with images of beauty that don’t come from their own culture since birth. i’m a black woman and i have never really been hard up for a date. i’m married now, but i used to meet good guys for the most part. on dating sites i would get a lot of attention. i never felt neglected.

  • Italian_Stallion

    ***To those who approve this comment: I apologize for the poor choice of words in my previous comment. I admit, I was emotional writing it, but there was nothing off topic about it.

    So, please, allow me to rephrase myself.***

    To comment on this article:

    Sounds about right, but some people are getting false hope.

    “80 percent of the communication initiated by whites was to other whites. Only 3 percent went to blacks.”

    Sounds encouraging to many and I am not questioning the numbers.

    But we must remember two things: 1. White women are more feminine than those of other races AND 2. White women are more attractive compared to those of color.

    Consequently, for these two reasons, they are less likely to initiate contact with other men, but is the reverse true?

    Apparently not, as the following sentences suggest.

    “Black members of the same site were more open to dating whites and were ten times more likely to contact whites[white WOMEN, that is, as the article implies further on] Black men were actually slightly more likely to initiate contact with white women than black women.”

    The study never ventured to explore how likely those white women were to accept these “approaches” and go on to date the men.

    Well, I don’t mean to bust anyone’s bubble here, but it’s not UNlikely.

    Thanks to subtle political brainwashing in the West, starting, literally, at the kindergarten stage for 30odd years, a large number of white women actually HATE the white man.

    60% of the white women I see today are with men of color: blacks, Pakistanis, Arabs, etc.

    An old Comanche proverb states that a nation cannot be conquered until the hearts of its women are on the ground. I’ll leave it to you, posters, to put two and two together.

    But I still remain an optimist. Hah.

  • Harumphty Dumpty

    Typical black lack of concern with logic or with the actual meaning of what is said…note how the last statement I’ve put in bold contradicts the earlier statement in bold:

    Black men were actually slightly more likely to initiate contact with white women than black women.

    Professor Mendelsohn, attributed this to the influence of cultural imperatives on all American men. ‘In this country, our notions of feminine attractiveness are based almost entirely on images of white women… the hypothesis that some people have argued is that there is no surprise that black men should contact white women, because that’s where we get our notions of who’s pretty.’

    Mendelsohn’s latest research does not draw conclusions as to why online daters make certain decisions,…”*

    Black mental abilities lower standards everywhere that blacks have been imposed into the White world. But if only that were the major ill effect of blacks’ presence.

    Blacks are the shock troops of the anti-Whites in their program of White Genocide. (And the main army is the waves of non-Whites that have arrived from south of the border and elsewhere).

    Anti-White hearts gladden to read that “Black men were actually slightly more likely to initiate contact with white women than black women.” Is there a better way to extinguish the White race than by the successful television-commercial, school, and other encouragement to our women to have half-black babies instead of White babies?**

    The persons and institutions that encourage White women to interracially date claim that they are anti-racist, but what they are is anti-White.

    Anti-racist is just a code word for anti-White

    *Hey, I’ve reached the age where my mind sometimes plays tricks on me, so if I’m mistaken in seeing a contradiction here, please let me know.

    **”Black-White Kids Surge in South Where Mixed Unions Once Banned”
http://goo.gl/grfE4

  • Distant Observer

    Every ethnic group on the planet value fair skin. White skin is seen as pure, beautiful and desirable. From China to India to Africa to Latin America, nobody wants to be dark. Black women spend a fortune on “whitening” creams and they rank each other according to how light their skin tone is. So it is no surprise if women of European decent, the whitest of all, are desired for mating by everyone.

  • Anon

    One of the best features (and perhaps one of the few) of using online dating sites is the ability for any member to narrow the parameters of the race of the person they’d like to date or communicate with. Depending on the site however, it doesn’t always prevent people of other races from making overtures to you, but you simply do not respond (which happens 99.9% of the time) or you can write a note thanking the person for their interest and politely explain you don’t date outside of your race. The internet is truly one of the last places where people can self-segregate without fear of being stigmatized or accused of the dread “racism”. And trust me, it’s hard enough for a white guy to meet a white woman on these sites–if a black guy thinks he’s gonna find a blond white beauty to fulfill some fantasy, he’s got another thing coming. The vast majority of women on the sites are looking for a white guy. That’s just the way it is. Ladies, any comments?

  • Bill R

    I don’t know about the blonde beauty part. MOST of the black white pairings I’ve seen on the street and in the stores are black man, not-so-rare White Buffalo. With maybe half breeds in tow. MORE often, you see only the large white female with half breeds in tow. I’m sure the black guy was out working while the large white race traitor woman was shopping, right?

  • Bardon

    Old news. And- this is not “segregation” (with all attending undertones), but a selection.

  • Bardon

    Casually reading, I’ve overlooked this: ““In this country, our notions of feminine attractiveness are based almost entirely on images of white women …”.

    OK, but White men are also the standard for male “beauty”. White males’ physique, especially facial features, are those associated with noble masculinity, expressiveness, harmony, …

    It’s not for nothing that other races look at White people as physically the most attractive & diverse (here is your true diversity- Whites can have black, green, blue, hazel, brown, gray,..eyes; also the hair color “diversity”).

    And this OKCupid stuff is old news:

    http://goo.gl/8w84

  • Anonymous

    In other words: black men chase white women constantly and very aggressively. Even if they fail most of the times, if trying countless and countless times the absolute numbers will steadily shoot up.

    This blows holes in the myth that white women ‘prefer’ black men. Most who date interracially are at best indifferent to races, and since black men are ultraaggressive, at some point some white women must relent.

    The problem here is not white women. It’s the feminised white men who sit by and do nothing.

    The solution to this problem is political in part, but also cultural. Equality between the sexes is to be encouraged, but feminism is to be scrapped on the ash heap of history. As well as cultural marxi*m and so forth.

  • Nick

    You really have to feel sorry for black women.

    The majority of black men aren’t exactly marriage material.

    The minority of black men who are want white women.

  • cpascal

    I was in a restaurant once when a gorgeous blonde woman walked in who could have had her choice of white men. She was with a black man and two kids that she’d obviously had with him. One of the kids seemed generally aggressive, and it makes me wonder if bringing him into the world under those circumstances was really doing him a favor. He wasn’t older than about seven, but he just had a look of rage in his eyes. No, I wasn’t staring at him. He first got my attention when he pointed his finger at me, pretending to shoot. Although boys often pretend to shoot, there was just something not right with this one.

    Like the poster above stated, it’s interesting that so many white women who marry blacks are blonde. I’m wondering if it’s something to do with the jealousy these women sometimes receive that makes some of them just not care whether or not their children inherit the blonde hair, or even full white blood.

  • Anonymous

    How many times has this EXACT SAME STUDY been done? And how much of our taxpayer dollars do they collectively all add up to?

    At least it’s given us a new (retarded) “scientific” term – “homophily”. REALLY NOW? HomoPHILY – phily, like it’s some kind of philia or sexual perversion.

  • Teddy J.

    Miscegenation is genocide for Whites. Don’t do it. Shun those who do and thus let them know that they are seen for the genocidists that they are.

  • Bardon

    # 25

    Like the poster above stated, it’s interesting that so many white women who marry blacks are blonde. I’m wondering if it’s something to do with the jealousy these women sometimes receive that makes some of them just not care whether or not their children inherit the blonde hair, or even full white blood.

    —————————–

    Frankly, I don’t know what attracts White females to Blacks. Myths about Blacks’ hypersexuality ? These are myths, check any list of extremely promiscuous men- exclusively Whites (mostly from entertainment scene). Masculinity ? Well, masculinity is a character trait. If we limit the issue to physical masculinity- there are way more physically dominant Whites than Blacks. Moral character ? OK, a joke. Sensibility ? Another joke. Visual image of male attractiveness ? Yet another joke. Money ? Now, this is something more tangible. My reluctant guesses are:

    1. gold-diggers (in case of rich Blacks)- although, why soil all your life with someone extremely alien- physically, mentally, emotionally …And your progeny is as different as imaginable.

    2. perversions – women who prefer Blacks are in the good company of S&M, bestiality addicts, pedophiles etc.

    3. plain stupidity..? NO, no one can can be just THAT stupid.

    4. ??

    The same goes for White men & their Black wives. One Black has posed a good question at A-A forum Topix:

    http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TFQF2FKT29HU67SDH

    Wm who have Biracial kids getting angry cus the kid looks BLK

    Makes some sense.

  • Anonymous

    Amazing how many posters here think that black men lusting after white women is no big deal or that it is just natural. Not threatened by it at all. Shows the degree to which the diversity brain washing has succeeded. And on a white racial interest web site to boot. Unbelievable. There was a time in this country when black men respected if not feared white men enough to leave white women alone. They kept their behavior in check. Now according to the Dept of Justice crime stats some 34,000 white females are raped by blacks. Is that just natural too?

  • Nick

    Q. Who are the biggest fools on the planet?

    A. White men.

    We actually pay hard earned money to watch surly, showboating black men play college and professional basketball and football.

    Q. And what do black men do after white men make them millionaires (playing a child’s game)?

    A. They go after white women. And because of fleeing fame and money they have a lot of success.

  • Anonymous

    This article can be summed up as, whenever things don’t go as planned, no matter in what manner they go wrong, it’s the fault of racism. The terrible white man is behind a lot of wrong doing. . .

  • Bardon

    # 22 — Aaron from Rhode Island

    Completely disagree.

    1. Jewish men- if they can afford it- are obsessed with blonde “shiksas”. Read Philip Roth. Also, although not much of a science: http://goo.gl/s3kmo

    2. imperialism paradigm is not enough. Simply, European white people are more diverse & attractive: hair- brown, red, black, blonde, ..eyes- hazel, black, blue, brown, gray, green, ..Culture-wise, Asians have always been much more influenced by European art-forms than vice versa: Buddha sculptures from NW India some 2 centuries B.C. showing decisively influence of Hellenistic art; Tagore’s novels (hey, novels) & poetry; Philo Judaeus’ assimilation of Platonism (essentially, all Jewish & Islamic medieval philosophy are Plotinus & Aristotle refurbished); Ottoman Turkish fascination with Venetian painting (Bellini’s portrait of Sultan Mehmed II); privileged status of White- mainly Slavic & Germanic – women in Sultan’s harem (Roxelana); …..

    White men chasing East Asian women has more to do with fetishistic sexuality & other factors (economic, social,..) than with standards of female beauty.

  • Anonymous

    Q. Who are the biggest fools on the planet?

    A. White men.

    We actually pay hard earned money to watch surly, showboating black men play college and professional basketball and football.

    Q. And what do black men do after white men make them millionaires (playing a child’s game)?

    A. They go after white women. And because of fleeing fame and money they have a lot of success.

    True. I even read on some message board a few years ago a statement by some poster that a friend of his who worked at an adult store told him that BM-WF p-rn is watched almost entirely by white men. Black men, despite what one might expect, prefer same-race p-rn, whether featuring blacks or whites.

    Despite the impression one gets from seeing BM-WF couples, white women are, in my experience, far more sensible than white men. It’s just that the majority of black women are hideous, which artificially depresses BW-WM pairing (and inflates BM-WF). Attractive black women with great personalities don’t seem to have any problems whatsoever with white men, from what I’ve observed!

    In addition, I should point out that I haven’t noticed a whole lot of white women with black men anyway. Does it happen? Yes, of course. But do white women as a whole prefer black men over white men? Certainly not. And those who do tend to have mental problems and/or are left-wing Marxist fanatics like Obama’s mother. The fraction of white women who prefer black men is about the same as those who prefer other women!

  • zone

    Noticed some time ago that with Google search suggestions enabled if words “white women looking” are typed, suggestions such as the following will be echoed.

    “for black men”

    “for asian men”

    “for asian men” (twice)

    “for latino men”

  • Bernie

    “Professor Mendelsohn, attributed this to the influence of cultural imperatives on all American men. “In this country, our notions of feminine attractiveness are based almost entirely on images of white women … the hypothesis that some people have argued is that there is no surprise that black men should contact white women, because that’s where we get our notions of who’s pretty.”

    What an anti-white racist this guy is! Why do Asian and Hispanic women have no trouble finding men – including white men? I recall a survey from Match.com a year or so ago that showed Middle Eastern women actually getting slightly more attention on dating sites than white women.

  • LouLou

    “In this country, our notions of feminine attractiveness are based almost entirely on images of white women …”

    Is that why every other young white man in northern Virginia is with an Asian or Hispanic woman when I go to the mall?

  • Aaron from Rhode Island

    Bardon wrote at 3:50 PM on November 18:

    “Completely disagree.”

    Thats your pregorative, not mine.

    1. “Jewish men- if they can afford it- are obsessed with blonde “shiksas”. Read Philip Roth. Also, although not much of a science: http://goo.gl/s3kmo

    Absolute balderdash! Fact: Roth talks only about a section of Askhenaz Jewish men settled in the west ( living under Euroceteric norms where white/blonde is artificially pumped up as the faux-gold standard). Obviously, this rather small percentage of westernized Jewish men are only assimilating to the norm to garner success, ditto with any non white group in the west. Success & status comes with winning the gold standard set by the host as a norm. However, the vast majority of Jewish men prefer the archetypal tanned dark haired, brown eyed high IQ witty Jewish dream girl. This only proves my point! In fact in Israel, the hottest female star and sex symbols are brunettes with middle eastern features, despite the presence of Nordic models & celebs there.

    For example, even today the epitome of Jewish/ Israeli beauty is a dark complexioned Shiri Mamon, Natalie Portman and Alison Brie. The blonde haired blue eyed white skinned Israeli supermodels Esti Ginzburg & Bar Raffaeli are outscored by the aforementioned brunettes in terms of beauty & femininity.

    2. Western civilization has in many ways been deeply influenced by Asiatic cultures, the best example is Christianity – a religion whose progenitor was a dark skinned olive brown complexioned black haired brown eyed Semitic west Asiatic Galilean. The last time I checked, Asians are following their own norms & cultures – not some European imported one.

    Beauty is purely subjective. Many non white men are repulsed with blonde Nordic looks & the vice versa may be true in some cases. But as evolution will support my view: men of a certain race will ALWAYS for the most part find their own women more attractive. And judging the stats: Asian women seem to beat white women in terms of getting more dates especially by white men. Thailand is a great example of millions of white men traveling half way around the world to seek Asian women. Show me ONE place in the western world where non whites pour in to seek Nordic women? Not one place….the closest would be Amsterdam – but even there, you will find a plethora of middle eastern, Slavic, Nordic and Asiatic women scoring the game! And Amsterdam would pale in comparison to Thailand.

  • WR the elder

    So whites are wicked if they want to date and marry other whites. The message from the thought police is clear and unequivocal — the white race is wicked and must be bred out of existence.

    Black men and women are somehow seen as more virtuous because both are more willing to date and marry whites than the other way around. But the more obvious interpretation is that black women are so unpleasant that black men don’t want to marry them, and black men are so ignorant and uncivil that black women don’t want to marry them. This does not reflect well on black people.

  • Anonymous

    Online dating is brutal. It is based even more on physical looks than even a singles bar that at least has alcohol. All that is happening is people are voting with their actions:

    White women physically best

    Asians next

    Hispanics

    Blacks especially women at the bottom.

    All this nonsense about beauty being subjective is absurd tell that to the 9-10 blonde who gets asked out every other minute. Or the obese, Black girl who gets scraps from Black men unable to get anything else.

    Nothing exposes hypocrisy like the dating scene.

  • Phil

    Response to the nonsense by the “conservative Jew from Rhode Island”

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/1,7340,L-3062297,00.html

  • Anonymous

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It’s true that there are some that find blondes more attractive but there is plenty of beauty in other looks too. It is a matter of personal taste really.

  • Aaron from Rhode Island

    “All this nonsense about beauty being subjective is absurd tell that to the 9-10 blonde who gets asked out every other minute. Or the obese, Black girl who gets scraps from Black men unable to get anything else.

    Nothing exposes hypocrisy like the dating scene.”

    You are dead wrong! If I were to take the sum total of the sexual interests of the world’s men: the preference for blondes would be a tiny minority! Fact is, most men of a certain race prefer a woman of similar genetic heritage.

    I’ve traveled around the world to some of the most interesting places – India, Japan, Israel, China, Turkey, Israel, Iran, Germany, Brazil, Argentina, Australia, Egypt, Jordan etc. The fact most men of these nations idealized the perfect epitome of beauty as someone who racially resembled them. Thus in India, the archetypal Bollywood dream girl is a fair skinned ( light brown/ light olive complexioned NOT pale scaly European white), dark eyed, dark haired beauty with a medical or engineering degree and wealth. Look at the movie industries in India ( the world’s largest movie industry) – ALL Indians NO room for whites ( even though they have many desperate aspiring blonde blue eyed wannabe stars from countries like the UK, Eastern Europe, Russia, Ukraine, and even a few from Australia & the United States)

    http://www.erosentertainment.com/

    An interesting article of how Indians look down on white women as inferior in general: Note- I don’t espouse what they think.

    http://goo.gl/z7P32

    In Israel ( the perfect Jewish dream girl is a wealthy, well educated intelligent dark haired, brown eyed fair skinned ( olive complexioned as opposed to black skin or pale scaly Nordic complexion) woman is ideal. Eg: Yael Abikasis is considered the epitome of Israeli/Jewish beauty by the vast majority of Israeli Jews.

    http://israelity.com/2007/06/27/ideal-beauty/

    In China & Japan – the lead movie stars are ALL without an exception oriental looking. In the Arab world, Arab women are considered the epitome of beauty.

    Top rated Japanese beauties in their movie industry:

    http://sabrebiade.hubpages.com/hub/Japanese-Actresses

    Likewise in Australia: the majority of the population is Nordic ( English, Scottish, Welsh, Irish, German etc) that would explain why Aussie men love blondes. Blondes are considered the epitome of beauty in Australia, North America ( except Mexico where olive complexioned Latin-Spaniard Mediterranean women flank the #1 spot) and Western Europe.

    This only proves my point: in each of these nations, the ideal woman is someone who belongs to the same ethno-racial stock. Western media has the highest outreach in the world, thanks to tons of Satellites in space ( > 95% from the United States alone)- that explains why American aka Nordic ideals of beauty seem so omnipotent in TV channels and entertainment. But does that in anyway reflect the REAL ideals of the vast majority of non western men? NO!

    The dating sites you quote are ALL western (American, European or Australian based) dating sites. Ofcourse, they ARE going to promote their own Euro-centric aesthetic view to beauty. If I were to goto an Indian, Jewish, Japanese, Arab or Chinese website : the hottest hits would be on the attractive females of their own respective ethnicity and NOT those fictitious blondes that you imagine. Btw, I’m a Jewish man myself and I do not find white Europeans / blondes / red heads in anywhere as attractive as Jewish women. Evolution designed a species to propagate it’s own kind. Thus evolution also designed the mutual attraction that naturally occurs intra-spieces and NOT inter-spieces. That is why I am against race-mixing. It is NOT natural.

    This is what American Renaissance is about – white ethno-racial nationalism. Amren makes more sense than other white supremacist sites because it does NOT advocate supremacy. Jared Taylor, popular Youtube blogger RAMZPAUL etc are the more intelligent & rational men who promote nationalism and NOT supremacism ( which is bound to failure…cough Nazism..cough cough)

  • Anonymous

    Your observations are simply tainted by your own biases. Blond women come on top no matter how you look at it. By the way I have been to every country you listed and a lot more. In India for example the only reason they do not use blondes is for their own self respect. Instead they sneak brown haired Whites and try to pass them off as Indians. It is so bad their was almost a strike about it about six months ago.As far as Israel why are they one of the leading White slave countries in the world. Guess who they bring almost exclusively East European blondes. That is a fact. I also find it interesting that you bring up Israel when it’s population is a drop in the bucket. However to the Israel centrics out there, who I believe you are one, thinks Israel is the only country that matters. What about all of Latin Americans, Blondes again. Arabs, Blonds again. It goes on and on. Sorry Middle Eastern women generally do not have symmetric features. That is what scientists have found what makes a person good looking.

  • Anonymous

    The blonde haired blue eyed white skinned Israeli supermodels Esti Ginzburg & Bar Raffaeli are outscored by the aforementioned brunettes in terms of beauty & femininity.

    Says who?

    You write this and then contradict yourself:

    Beauty is purely subjective.

    You are correct here, your first proclamation is laughable. Dark haired women with straight black or brown hair, dark skin and black or brown eyes are a dime a dozen on this earth. White men marry White women 97% of the time.

    Why do so many Asian women seek plastic surgery to alter their eyes and facial structure to look more White? I don’t know of ONE plastic surgery clinic here in the West that cater to White women to make them look more Asian (or Jewish for that matter). I know of no hair salon that specifically dyes blond or red hair black so as to look more Asian — yet the reverse is very common, Asian salons also commonly “blond” Asian hair.

    Dark haired women are a dime a dozen. Blondes and red-heads are rare.

    .And judging the stats: Asian women seem to beat white women in terms of getting more dates especially by white men.

    Which “stats” might those be?

    Thailand is a great example of millions of white men traveling half way around the world to seek Asian women.

    Because they THROW themselves at White men. A lot of those “millions of White men” traveling through Asians countries are seeking young boys, also readily available in Asia. How many come back with Thai wives? Millions and millions? Ridiculous.

    And Amsterdam would pale in comparison to Thailand.

    I know of not one White male that has sought a wife in Thailand. I know several Jewish men, however, who have married Filipino or Chinese wives, including the dragon lady “Tiger Mom.”

    Did you come here to tell White women how ugly and undesirable they are? I could say the same thing about Jewish women whom I’ve found to be loud, foul-mouthed and arrogant.

    Let me ask you this:

    Why do so many Jewish men marry out? Why is the out-marriage rage about 50%? If so many White women are, as you claim, undesirable, if not repulsive, even to White men, why do so many Jewish men find White women so attractive?

    Why don’t Jewish men find their own women attractive? Could it be that Jewish women ARE unattractive, loud and foul-mouthed?

  • Anonymous

    This is what American Renaissance is about – White ethno-racial nationalism

    Is that why you’re here, to support White ethno-nationalism?

    If not, then why are you here?

    (which is bound to failure…cough Nazism..cough cough).

    Yes, it’s always about the Nazis, isn’t it? Unlike the ADL, SPLC, LaRaza, NAACP, who are allowed to gather in peace to support and promote their respective ethno-nationalities, anytime Whites gather it is always considered by the media and SPLC to be “A Rise of White Supremacists fomenting a Fourth Reich.”

    Including AR, which is constantly called a White supremacist site and hate group by the likes of the SPLC and ADL.

    SPLC: In his personal bearing and tone, Jared Taylor projects himself as a courtly presenter of ideas that most would describe as crudely white supremacist.

    ADL: The journal (AR), which Taylor edits, promotes pseudoscientific studies that attempt to demonstrate the intellectual and cultural superiority of whites

  • Anonymous

    Infact (sic), more than blondes being sought after by non white men, there is a thriving industry of Asian women who are desperately sought after by white men…from Japan, Thailand, Korea to the Indo Aryan beauties of North India, Iran, Turkey and central Asia.

    White men marry white women 97% of the time.

    http://goo.gl/Xxofw

    Funny how you “Infact” make the exact same exact grammatical errors and silly talking points as “Lindsay Weiss” and “Liberal Weiss”. Gee, what are the odds?

  • Phil

    Aaron’s opinions are about as profound as Freud’s “Oedipus Complex.”

    Semitic preferences for blondes go back to the middle ages, at least. Read some Bernard Lewis, sometimes, its your brand of “conservatism.”

    Israel doesn’t kidnap millions of Palestinian women for sex (just for the organs), it kidnaps European women.

  • Godefroy de Bouillon

    I have to agree with Aaron from Rhode Island here. Too many posters on AmRen seem to be obsessed with that blond/blue eyes combo when the overwhelming majority of White adults are actually brunettes of all eye colors. Sorry to break it to you, but most next door and famous blonde women are fake blondes in case you haven’t noticed (e.g: Marilyn Monroe, Brigitte Bardot, Farrah Fawcett, Madonna, Gwyneth Paltrow, etc,).

    Moreover, it is the unique facial symmetry of White women that Non-Whites are actually attracted to (sparkling eyes, softer hair, smaller nose, smoother jaw lines and cheekbones). That’s what makes Caucasian women from the Baltic to the Mediterranean Sea the most feminine and beautiful in the world. Lighter hair color is irrelevant when a White woman is already naturally attractive, and it is nothing more than a cosmetic enhancer just like lipstick and mascara.

    I mean last time I checked, most of those gorgeous White female stars, top models as well as Miss World and Universe winners aren’t Nordic blondes at all. It’s about the beautiful shape of our features folks, and color has nothing to do with it: http://goo.gl/ykYtg

  • Question Diversity

    50 A-Rhode:

    I don’t know whether your contention is true or not. But I think almost everyone who posts at AR, me included, wants it to be true. We want a black man to look at a white woman and constantly see the the ugliest and most grotesque person he has ever laid eyes on, then look at black women and see the ne plus ultra of beauty and femininity. Likewise, we want white men to look at Asian women and see the worst looking people on Earth, then look at white women and see the gold standard of female humanity.

    A hint that you just might be right is myself. As my personal odometer accumulates a few miles, and I stop thinking in terms of marital fantasy and start thinking in terms of reality, thinking about the sort of woman who I will probably wind up marrying, here in the real world, I have come to the conclusion that she will be: (1) White, obviously, (2) Physically average overall, but having or or two above average physical attributes, and (3) A great conversationalist, a borderline polymath, someone whom I can take to a friendly debating society as much as to bed, (We’ll talk dirty to each other about Thucydides, judicial precedents, Samuel Johnson and differential equations, in order to get each other in the mood), IQ at least 130, preferably at least 140. Then I realized, OMG, I want to marry myself with different plumbing.

    Maybe egomaniacsism is one more trait I have to ditch with age.

    Honestly, though, given the exact same physical attributes, the smarter the woman is, the more physical attractive she looks to me.

  • Bardon

    Aron from RI has made a few mistakes in his last two posts. I won’t elaborate on each & every (too many unnecessary & trivial points). Yet:

    1. the majority of American Jews/Jewish Americans are assimilated & Philip Roth’s (Saul Bellow’s, Norman Mailer’s, ..) characters are the norm of Jewish behavior in this sensitive area. Of course some Lubavitcher or similar guys would not agree- but they’re in a minority.

    2. sexual “discharging” of the males is not the same thing as standard of female beauty. Anyway, below-then-average looking White guys attract Asian females who are, generally, much better looking than these White guys. And the vast majority of this does not end in marriage or any permanent relationship. True, some (White) people find East Asian females (Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese,…but not Tibetan or Mongolian women) very feminine, but the femininity combined with Oriental mystique is something more erotically stimulating- at least for a period- and not equal to the standard of complete female beauty, which belongs to the White women (who, I’d add- age better than East or South Asian women).

    3. of course Bollywood (or any Asian film industry) will not import White actresses -especially blondes- en masse because these films are for their audiences and depict life in their countries. How would a movie about Tamil peasant women, or Turkish Anadolian prostitutes, or Bengali female MD pursuing a PhD in neurophysiology- retain any credence if these roles had been played by some “typical” Danish or Swedish models ?

  • Anonymous

    The last time I checked, Asians are following their own norms & cultures – not some European imported one.

    Check again. Asian countries copy everything Westerners do, from our jeans to our hair styles to fake contact lenses to mimic Western blue and green eyes to skin bleaching creams to make their skin whiter, to plastic surgery to make their face more White, to importing our TV shows and movies. Why is that? Could it be that the world standard of beauty is a beautiful white female with light hair and eyes?

    Sorry to break it to you, but most next door and famous blonde women are fake blondes in case you haven’t noticed (e.g: Marilyn Monroe, Brigitte Bardot, Farrah Fawcett, Madonna, Gwyneth Paltrow, etc,).

    But, they didn’t make it until they dyed their hair blond, did they? As brunettes, they were just one more in a large pack of undistinguished, uncharacteristic, bland, wanna-be brown-haired stars.

    Nonblondes the world over dye their hair blond for a reason, including Mexicans, Asians and Africans. Blond hair is the most desirable.

  • Aaron from Rhode Island

    In response to #51:

    “Your observations are simply tainted by your own biases. Blond women come on top no matter how you look at it. By the way I have been to every country you listed and a lot more. In India for example the only reason they do not use blondes is for their own self respect. Instead they sneak brown haired Whites and try to pass them off as Indians. It is so bad their was almost a strike about it about six months ago.”

    Any evidence for your rather unlettered non factual claim? I have provided ample evidence to support my argument which is based on raw facts. Maybe some white posters here are too deluded to handle the truth. The “blonde blue eyed is the best” fantasy is about as deluded as those blacks who claim they are the true descendents of Israel or that Afro-centrist WD Fard (founder of the black supremacist organization: Nation of Islam) claiming that all whites were created by a mad black “scientist” in a lab. And that blacks are the true original people of the world!

    “As far as Israel why are they one of the leading White slave countries in the world. Guess who they bring almost exclusively East European blondes.”

    Btw, most Eastern European Slavs are NOT blondes ( non Nordic people)….in fact many Ashkhenaz Jews are more Nordic looking than most Slavs. So your point is????

    ” That is a fact. I also find it interesting that you bring up Israel when it’s population is a drop in the bucket. However to the Israel centrics out there, who I believe you are one, thinks Israel is the only country that matters. What about all of Latin Americans, Blondes again.”

    Latin American “blondes” with the exception of Gsielle Bundchen ( Brazil) do not fare anywhere close to tanned Spaniard Mediterranean dark haired /brown eyed beauties who dominate the movie industry & modelling – just look at Telanova / Telemundo or any other major Mexican Tv channel.

    “Arabs, Blonds again. It goes on and on. Sorry Middle Eastern women generally do not have symmetric features. That is what scientists have found what makes a person good looking”

    Again, NO evidence but more baseless propaganda which entirely false. In fact even in the Arab world ( of which as you may know, I’m no big fan) – the symmetrical Arab women are the epitome of beauty. And as a matter of fact, many Arab women are far better looking than even your best plastic blonde Nordics:

    http://goo.gl/U32JZ

    As I stated before, its a matter of individual taste!

    To Phil:

    “Semitic preferences for blondes go back to the middle ages, at least. Read some Bernard Lewis, sometimes, its your brand of “conservatism.”

    Bernard Lewis talking about Jewish preference for blondes? Really. I’m well versed with Lewis’ work. He is an English Jew himself. I’ve read ALL his works and cannot recollect any such balderdash! The sex trafficking is by the Red Mafia run by white Russian mafia ( non Jewish ethnic Russians for the most part. Yes they do have a small tiny percentile of Russian Jews, BUT, the list would also include Ethnic white gentile Lithuanians, Uzbeks, Ukrainians, Latvians, Belorussians etc.)

    Therefore the sex trade cannot be termed as an Israeli or even Jewish venture – it is primarily Ethnic Russian and Eastern European.

  • Phil

    Aaron is practicing for his LSAT, he clearly couldn’t cut it in anything that required hard manual labor or the rigors of consistency such as mathematics.

    The idea that Slavs (non-Jews) are living in Israel, pimping their women to other Slavs (or poor unsuspecting Jews) In Israel is an idea worthy to be accepted by a lobotomized zombie. I guess the “law of return” goes for everyone from the North now, just as long as they aren’t indigenous Semites.

    Bernard Lewis illustrated that Arabs (Semitic) in the Middle Ages paid much higher prices for blonde sex slaves than for other races.

    Is Bernard Lewis credible? Maybe not a lot, but more so than Freud, Einstein, or Marx. I consider him quote worthy.

    Plus females like Bar Rafaeli seem to prefer Nordic looking males, even when their society is prejudiced against their choices.

  • Boone

    I’m kind of agnostic on the issue. But a few things:

    1. Women the world over lighten their hair.

    2. The top Bollywood actresses are basically white. In other words, if you did not hear an accent and they were just walking down the street you would think they were whites.

    3. In Asia (including India) ads for dating websites and wives often request “fair skin.”

    4. Look at the wives of many Arab dictators. Araft, Assad, the guy from Jordan …etc all married blondes and have sons who are white.

    5. Skin bleaching creams are big business.

    6. Univision has more white actors and actresses – including blondes – than U.S. TV. This is not said as a joke. Turn it on right now. Do you see a mestizo, a black or a white person on the screen?

    7. Who do all the leaders in Latin America marry? Sure, you can say most of the leaders are white men so they just marry white women. But look at the wives of the mestizo leaders (like Chavez) as well.

    8. Across Asia, white models (male and female) are the rage.

    9. Rich men in Arab and Asian countries do import white women for parties, harems …etc. They pay quite a lot of money to do this as well.

    Of course, I do agree that beauty is subjective. My own preference is for olive skin though I am very pale.

    And Aaron from Rhode Island seems to be conflating blondes and whites. Most whites are not blondes.

  • Indian American

    In response to poster #51 who wrote,

    “In India for example the only reason they do not use blondes is for their own self respect”

    Oh, so you mean, the association of blondes amongst Indians is a mark of blemish! You only prove Aaron’s point where he stated that in general Indians look down on white blondes as inferior. If the converse were true, than those Indians would have had no problem in terms of protecting the self respect associating or using blondes! What Aaron said is completely true, blonde women in India are seen as nothing more than un-intelligent morally defunct whores whose only obsession with crass materialism and glorification of imbecility is a stereotypical trademark. The only women respected by East Indians are their own apart from Jewish women, Middle eastern women, intellectual western women and in general women from other parts of the orient. Now you may hate what I may have to say, but like them or hate them, this is the stereotypical belief there.

  • Anonymous

    @ Aaron

    I agree to some degree. However that could be because there isn’t that much real exposure of white women in say Japan or the Middle East.

    There is some truth in the idea that uniqueness and more phenotype diversity among whites than other groups plays a role as well.

    Also language which reflects off of our psychology is “inherently racist.” White is seen as pure (forces of goodness in literature are usually wearing light armor where black is seen as evil, etc). People mistrust dark and see light as more welcoming. We are also not nocturnal creatures. I do see that this could play a role as well.

    In Japanese culture women pain their faces white. Japanese women also get plastic surgery that has a European outlook.

    I’m not disagreeing with you. I think it is one piece of a larger picture. Of course there are some hideous white women out there as well.

  • Aaron from Rhode Island

    IN response to Phil:

    “Aaron is practicing for his LSAT, he clearly couldn’t cut it in anything that required hard manual labor or the rigors of consistency such as mathematics.”

    Really? Well I’ve served in the IDF and did pretty darn well. At least I have more experience in raw physical combat, anti terrorist operations and “hard manual labor” as compared to you. And I did pretty well and excelled in Math to get into a prestigious university in Boston to complete my bio-technology engineering degree specializing in genetics. And trust me the subject requires proficiency in mathematics – with consistency!

    “Bernard Lewis illustrated that Arabs (Semitic) in the Middle Ages paid much higher prices for blonde sex slaves than for other races.

    Is Bernard Lewis credible? Maybe not a lot, but more so than Freud, Einstein, or Marx. I consider him quote worthy.”

    Bernard Lewis more credible than Einstein? Hah, I rest my case! Again I will reiterate my statement, Arabs are most attracted towards fellow Arabs. Blondes rate second in their list. Sorry to disappoint you! And having blonde slaves is hardly anything to be proud of…..makes as much sense as saying white colonials were sexually attracted to black women just because they were priced slaves!

    “Plus females like Bar Rafaeli seem to prefer Nordic looking males, even when their society is prejudiced against their choices.”

    Bar Rafaeli is NOT the ideal of Israeli beauty. She just happens to be a decent model amonst many other models in Israel. Yael Abikasis is the epitome of Israeli beauty ( dark complexioned non-nordic)…other icons of Israeli/ Jewish beauty are Natalie Portman, Allison Brie, Ayelet Zurer etc – all dark complexioned, brown eyed, black haired beauties.

    In response to Boone:

    You have not quoted a single reference or provided ANY evidence to your rather luducrous claims. However, allow me to debunk these myths:

    ” Women the world over lighten their hair.”

    NOT true at all. Some do, most don’t. Infact in nations like India and Asia, there are more oils, hair products to maintain healthy shiny black hair. Infact, light blonde/ brown hair is considered coarse & unhealthy.

    http://goo.gl/Aik6R

    ” The top Bollywood actresses are basically white. In other words, if you did not hear an accent and they were just walking down the street you would think they were whites.”

    Top bollywood actresses and white?

    Here are the top 10 leading contemporary bollywood female stars and they are ALL very North Indian in their physical traits, not even remotely close to European white?

    http://goo.gl/dVtCp

    “In Asia (including India) ads for dating websites and wives often request “fair skin.”

    Refer to my previous post. When they mean fair skin, they mean a lighter shade of brown or olive complexioned NOT pale scaly nordic white.

    “Skin bleaching creams are big business”

    Tanning saloons are a multi-billion dollar business all over the western world – from sunny Australia to North America & Europe. They just dig the healthy tanned brown skin. Big business indeed.

    http://goo.gl/5UojH

    And most Arab leaders ARE married to Arab women. The most glamorous couple, and considered as the most beautiful royalty in the world is Queen Raina – a Semitic Palestinian Kuwaiti citizen married to King Abdulla of Jordan.

    http://goo.gl/zGXmt

    And again, importing women as sexual toys and prostitutes is hardly an objective measure of beauty! That would be tantamount to stating that whites traveling to Thailand or Philippines for sex or wealthy whites ordering Asian women for their own parties & as potential brides consider Asians more beautiful than white women. The pendulum swings both ways!

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    Indian Guy:

    Good that you feel that way. Spread the word far and wide and tell all the Indian men in your community to stop chasing White women. Don’t tell me they don’t because they do.

    Comments such as yours disgust me and make me wonder why so many of you indians reject your own country to live in mine, the one created by the very people whom you so scorn, debase and despise. Because of your comments I am developing an intense hatred of indian people knowing how they feel about my people.

    To paraphrase QD’s excellent post above: We want indian men to look at a White woman and constantly see the the ugliest and most grotesque person he has ever laid eyes on, then look at indian women and see the ne plus ultra of beauty and femininity. Likewise, we want White men to look at indian women and see the worst looking people on Earth, then look at White women and see the gold standard of female humanity.

    As another poster wrote: White men marry White women 97% of the time. There is good reason for this and shows White men are not going to india, the middle east or any other asian country to seek non-White wives.

    Bon

  • Factmeister

    Poster #59 wrote,

    “Check again. Asian countries copy everything Westerners do, from our jeans to our hair styles to fake contact lenses to mimic Western blue and green eyes to skin bleaching creams to make their skin whiter, to plastic surgery to make their face more White, to importing our TV shows and movies. Why is that? Could it be that the world standard of beauty is a beautiful white female with light hair and eyes”

    Check again. Western countries copy and are influenced almost everything which was originated by Bronze age Asians. Mathematics – from Asian India & Mesopotamia which predates even the Greeks & Romans who came much later in the scenario. The earlies concept of Mathematics from numerals, zero, decimals, trigonometry, algebra, geometry, calculus came from these Asiatic cultures. A special mention must be made on the non-white Egptians too.

    “algebra” 2007. Britannica Concise Encyclopedia. Encyclopædia Britannica Online.

    As for the principle of gravity:

    Bhaskaracharya ( Ancient Indain vedic mathematician) in his Surya Siddhanta wrote:

    “Objects fall on the earth due to a force of attraction by the earth. Therefore, the earth, planets, constellations, moon and sun are held in orbit due to this attraction.”

    It was not until 1687 AD, about 1200 years later did Sir Issac Newton “rediscover” the Law of Gravity. Thus the Indians predate both Galileo and Newton in terms of their understanding of gravity.

    And there is strong evidence to suggest that Calculus & even the earlies theories of trigonometry was first invented by Indian Mathematician Bhaskara. Bhaskara’s work on calculus predates Newton and Leibniz by half a millennium. He is particularly known in the discovery of the principles of differential calculus and its application to astronomical problems and computations. While Newton and Leibniz have been credited with differential and integral calculus, there is strong evidence to suggest that Bhāskara was a pioneer in some of the principles of differential calculus. He was perhaps the first to conceive the differential coefficient and differential calculus.

    Selin, Helaine (2008), “Astronomical Instruments in India”, Encyclopaedia of the History of Science, Technology, and Medicine in Non-Western Cultures (2nd edition), Springer Verlag Ny, ISBN 9781402045592

    Stillwell, John (2002), Mathematics and its history, Undergraduate texts in mathematics, Springer, ISBN 9780387953366

    The ancient Chinese gave the west many inventions which surged western renaissance in the first place. From gun powder, paper, compass to vaccination, printing and metaalurgy etc.

    http://goo.gl/oZ3IU

    Read the book “1434: The Year a Magnificent Chinese Fleet Sailed to Italy and Ignited the Renaissance”, in which it is stated that Leonardo da Vinci — knowingly or unknowingly — copied his ideas and the codex from the Chinese.

    And, last but not the least since Christiandom has been a significant cultural, social & political influence in the west, it is only fair to state that Europe and the west were influenced by a religion founded by a man from Asia – west Asia to be precise.

    In modern day, some could credit Asians from India to have invented vital technological stuff that is so popular with westerners including the computer Pentium chip, fibre optics, HDTV/ MPEG4, WiFi-WiMax, Google chrome, etc.

    http://goo.gl/VtFg9

    My point: We are ALL ( irrespective of race, class, religion or ethnicity) influenced by each other.

  • Korean guy

    Aaron from Rhode Island I am a guy of Korean descent and I could not agree more with you. Are there more Asian female/white male couples than white female/Asian male couples? Definitely, but the Asian girls in the arms of white guys are not the cream of the crop. It appears many white men attempt to date Asian women not because they are truly attracted to Asian women, but simply because they just want the rest of the world to know that he is dating an Asian girl. There are many white men who post on online dating websites, “Asian women welcome!!” If a man is truly attracted to a woman, should not it depend on her physical and inner beauty? Rather than her race?

    Are there some people who date outside their races? Yes.

    But is that a trend, or majority? No.

  • Indian American

    American Guy:

    Good that you feel that way. Spread the word far and wide and tell all the American men in your community to stop chasing Asian women. Don’t tell me they don’t because they do. Don’t believe me? Come to Thailand, Vietnam, Phillippines, etc. Heres the trouble, even if you wish, unlike white women who are more open and prone to misegnation, almost 99.999% of Indian women ( even the best looking ones) will NEVER sexually associate with men outside their race, especially blacks, moslems and whites.

    Comments such as yours humor me especially when you euro-Americans wonder why so many of us Indians supposedly reject our own country to live here, the one created by the all people, some of whom you so scorn, debase and despise. Because of your comments I am developing an intense sense of gratification at being entertained by the rather comical or should I say – infantile mentality of some deluded euro-American people knowing how they feel about my people.

    To paraphrase QD’s excellent post above: We want indian men to look at a White woman and constantly see the the ugliest and most grotesque person he has ever laid eyes on, then look at indian women and see the ne plus ultra of beauty and femininity. Likewise, we want White men to look at indian women and see the worst looking people on Earth, then look at White women and see the gold standard of female humanity.

    Heres another thought, concerning why 98% still prefer to live in their own land! So why do some Indians come here? Maybe because many of us do return once we make enough $$$. America = Oppurtunity ($$$), whether you like it or not – no one race can claim it. EVERYONE came here for $$$ & oppurtunity. If you have the brains & talent/ determination to succeed..NO ONE has the right to oppose my stay here.

    Harmann Veda-Aryanman

    New York City.

  • Anonymous

    #63 Indian American you completely missed my point. Indians do not look at Blonde women as a blemish. The reason they put in White women with brown hair is to try make them blend in as an Indian. White women are just plain better looking than Indian women. You do not have to take my word for it, the Indians themselves hire the White women. If Indians were just as appealing to the masses in India why would they hire any White women. There is no way they could mix in Blondes as Indians but like every other non-White group in the world they know White women are The best looking women. As far as men going to Asia to get women I. Thailand etc.. If you actually go to S.E ASIs you see that 90% are men that are not going to get a decent White girls back at home. That is because White women are the most in demand in the world.

  • Anonymous

    as a white woman , with “pale scaly Nordic skin”, I consider it slumming to have anything to do with swarthy non-white men. That includes Jewish men because they are so insane about their mothers and dating a non-Jew, and Indian men and really dark mediterranean men. The only reason any of them get dates with white women is because they stalk and pursue them as though they were hunting game animals. One foreign man told a friend of mine, that if he had more money he would be a better looking white woman. That pretty much sums up the mentality.

  • Andy Weiler

    “One foreign man told a friend of mine, that if he had more money he would be a better looking white woman. That pretty much sums up the mentality.”

    What? You mean this “foreign” man was a transgender or sexually confused or something? Maybe you should have talked to more straight foreign men. And anyway, why on Earth would a “foreign man” want to become a woman leave alone a “white woman”. Duh!

  • Ted

    Two things.

    First, there are FAR MORE White men/ Asian women couples and marriages than Black /White relationships.

    Secondly, the majority of White male/Black female pairings tend to be middle to upper income couples.

  • Anonymous

    #67

    I do agree (and should be obvious to anyone with a brain) that we all influence each other.

    But…

    “Read the book “1434: The Year a Magnificent Chinese Fleet Sailed to Italy and Ignited the Renaissance”, in which it is stated that Leonardo da Vinci — knowingly or unknowingly — copied his ideas and the codex from the Chinese.”

    Doesn’t show Gavin Menzies in a positive light:

    http://is.gd/BlwShB

    http://www.1421exposed.com/

  • Anonymous

    to number 72- I apologize for the typo. what he said to the white american woman was :” if he had more money he would have gotten himself a better looking white woman.” ” ”

    that’s what he said to her.

    as far as being straight , who says swarthy foreign men are straight?

    this particular man cross dressed and had sex with men, because in his culture. women were off limits.

    He also had sex with animals and hookers.

    Greek men will have sex with men for money- they don’t have a problem with that at all, ditto Mexicans.

    Also I know what foreign men are like far better then you do

  • Anonymous

    Reply to Indian American guy at #69;

    NO ONE has the right to oppose my stay here.

    To the contrary, we have EVERY RIGHT to do so. Immigration is a privilege, NOT A “RIGHT”. You have NO RIGHT to be here at all! You are here at our pleasue and you can be shown the door at any time!

  • Anonymous

    The arrogance and naivete of Indians is, as always, amply manifest in everything they post on these boards. Why, exactly, ought anyone to desire their presence? If “euros” are so awful, go back where you came from.

  • margaret

    “31 — Anonymous wrote at 11:13 AM on November 18:

    In other words: black men chase white women constantly and very aggressively. Even if they fail most of the times, if trying countless and countless times the absolute numbers will steadily shoot up.”

    Anonymous summed it up perfectly. Black men go after anything that moves. They never stop. A White woman could be a Judge who sentenced a black criminal. If they ran into each other somewhere a couple years later he would hit on her.

    I think that accounts for BM WF pairings. They never stop. “I’m married.” “Go away.” “I will never, never have anything to do with you.”

    Black men pursuing White women are like hardworking sales people. Make 100 calls, get 30 sales. Make 50 calls, get 15 sales. Make 25 calls, get 12 sales.

  • margaret

    “Weak minded backward, insecure white women are more responsible for pending destruction of the white race than any politician is, shun them an shun them hard”

    Bob13, I have always rejected black men rudely and belligerently. I can’t stand to either look at them or hear them.

    I don’t know any White women who associate with black men. I did know one about 20 years ago. They were both fat and ugly.

    That said, I’ll start rejecting White women who associate with black men when White men stop worshiping those TV sports shows featuring black men.

    How many White women get involved with black men in any one year?

    Maybe one hundred thousand? How many have mulatto kids? Maybe 10 thousand?

    How many White men spend 50 hours per week watching black sports teams? How many White men buy whatever is advertized on those sports shows? How many White men buy themselves and their sons clothes with those black teams logos?

    At least 100 million White men are mesmerized by black sports.

    100 thousand White women involved with black men doesn’t look so bad in comparison.

  • Charlie

    What Aaron said is completely true, blonde women in India are seen as nothing more than un-intelligent morally defunct whores whose only obsession with crass materialism and glorification of imbecility is a stereotypical trademark

    There are some really goofy comments here. White Europeans invented the modern world. The achievements are so massive that any attempt to portray either gender as “imbecilic” compared to theirs, be it Indian, Chinese, Middle Eastern(?!) or African (double?!) is just–absurd. Talking out their pitoutis.

    Who cares if they find their own women prettier. Good. Leave whites alone. But the blondes as dumbs is just cartoonish. They can’t possibly believe that about — well, Germans. Or Swedes. Whose country is the most advanced?

    As for the supremacy of “blondes.” Again, Aaron the Jewish Man invoked Natalie Portman as an icon of beauty for her “black” hair and “darkness.” She’s about as “dark” as a twinkie. She’s about the same coloring and features as a lot of girls I went to Catholic school with, European ethnics all. And mostly north & central Europe.

    Whites are mostly brunette, not blonde. It’s the features and the varying eye & hair colors that are coveted among Europeans. While people are more likely to choose models/icons who more or less resemble their own average on the color/features continuum, it is generally true that the most highly regarded are closer to a Caucasoid or even European (depending on the race) type. That’s really hardly worth arguing. Are they people in these countries who prefer a more totally “indigenous” or v. dark — of course. But at least for female looks, a lighter skin has always been more admired. Among American Indians, in the southwest, a dark woman might be told she was “looking like a man.” OTOH, a pale skin might mean a man was trying to be too pretty.

    This emphasis on “blonde” (rare among adults anyway) is misguided.

  • tiramisu

    :you euro-Americans wonder why so many of us Indians supposedly reject our own country to live here, the one created by the all people,”

    um–pls, take your own women/men to marry and keep yourselves to yourselves. That’s fine w/me. I am not attracted to Indians myself. Scaly skin somebody said? Nordics? I don’t know the examples you’re thinking of, and some are I guess, but the Danish women of my acquaintance had magnificent complexions well into later years. But if you prefer your own color & kind, good. V. good.

    The aspect of the country that you are coming to exploit was the aspect invented by the Europeans, Mr. Indian. I don’t think you’d be here starting IT companies if only the indigenous people, or Africans, were running the show.

    They invented most of things you are seeking to exploit. And please don’t try & blind me with the zero. Can’t rest on that for all eternity. It’s the whites who took it places.

    You’re here because whites make laws allowing you to come here. Even come here and prosper at our expense. My sister works for an Indian company who actually got started as an “AA” (like we own you something) and now hires only Indians. Huh?

    If you act as a shakedown artist, just beware. We owe you nothing. You are not “victims” you are here to take what you can and use all the power that white-made laws give you. What comptemptable hypocrites. People seem to be waking up to the shakedown operations.

  • davidsmith

    Working in a large metropolitan city I encounter a great number of black women, who see me in a 3 piece suit and create reasons to come talk to me. I am by no means handsome or rich, but compared to what they are used to, I’m Brad Pitt with a mansion.

    I gave it a go a few times, actually taking a few different women out on dates. Wow, what a culture shock. I had no idea what terms like “chickenhead” or “hoochie mama” meant, and I think I still don’t.

    Date #1 – wore an outfit that looked like Serena Williams going on a safari. Talked on her cell phone the entire date. Picked a fight with the waiter over her food, the restaurant manager over the music playing in the backgroud, shouted instead of talked, and deliberately ordered three main courses.

    When I objected to her ordering more food than she could eat in a week, she gave me some excuse about her little brother being hungry and she knew I was a caring white man so I’d help out.

    She then proceeded to tell me that she was about to be evicted from her apartment, and if I “loaned” her $600.00 for rent she’d give me the “ghetto happy ending”.

    I said no thanks.

    Date #2 – thought I’d look for someone a bit more classy this time, I screened with questions ahead of time. This chick was 25, in college studying something called “Mor (such as “have you ever been arrested” and “what is two times two”).

    This chick, who would remind you of Jennifer Hudson, told me she was in college studying “Mortuary Science”. Well she seemed halfway decent, so I figured a coffee date would be amusing. On the date, she tells me that she likes blonde white men, cause they “have good credit”.

    She brought some papers with her, and proceeded to tell me she had a final exam coming up, and would I be so kind as to do her take home final for her?

    I said “no, sorry”. She rolled it back up and (I assume) got someone else to do it for her.

    I asked her why black women go for white men, she said “cause they like to be dominated. My last boyfriend liked me to (put toys up his posterior).

    I almost gagged, but she went on to explain: “White men who date black women are closet freaks, they wanna get it up the butt”.

    She explained that her last boyfriend (a 40 something wall street type), liked her special services so much he told all his friends how great she was at, um, plumbing. So, his friends started calling her and requesting services. She then took turns plunging his friends for $$$.

    Don’t worry, she gave him half the money.

    I said “thanks but no thanks, the back door is out only”.

    Date #3 – A doctor in residence at a major eastern research hospital. She was African, not American. Very well dressed, but seemed completely ill at ease in the presence of a white man. Told me she was once engaged to an African man, who was also a doctor, until she caught him with another man.

    Date #4. This one never bothered to show up. I had a date to pick her up at her house at noon on a Saturday, and had talked to her on the phone only 2 hours before. Got to her apartment, which she claimed to share with her mother (there never seems to be a father in a black woman’s life), only to find no answer on the door, no answer on the phone, and no answer to follow up calls.

    Date #5 – A very beautiful woman, told me she used to be an adult actress in California. As I am not familiar with fetish films, I had never heard from her. I got kind of suspicious at things she said so I googled her phone number and saw an online ad with her pics, listing her as a bdsm escort.

    Dropped her like a hot potato.

    I did learn some interesting things. I asked a few black women why black men liked white women, and they said “cause the white chicks will do whatever the brother wants in bed – she will kiss his feet, act submissive in front of his friends, do his friends if he demands that, clean his clothes, buy him stuff, and forgive him when he beats her”.

    Wow, sounds like…slavery?