AP, July 1, 2009
French officials were on guard Wednesday after an al-Qaida affiliate threatened vengeance for President Nicolas Sarkozy’s criticism of the face-covering veils worn by some Muslim women.
France is maintaining “very great vigilance” toward actions and statements by al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb, or North Africa, French Foreign Ministry spokesman Eric Chevallier said in a briefing.
“French authorities reaffirm their determination to fight terrorism,” he added.
The Algeria-based group issued a statement on Islamic Web sites vowing to “seek vengeance against France” over Sarkozy’s comments about face-covering Muslim veils such as the burqa and niqab. The declaration could not be independently verified.
Sarkozy said last week the burqa would not be “welcome” in France and would turn women into prisoners. France’s parliament created a commission to study the issue, which could lead to banning the Muslim robes from being worn in public.
Human Rights Watch said the move would be counterproductive, and a top British Muslim group said Sarkozy’s comments were patronizing and offensive. Lebanon’s most influential Shiite cleric called on the French leader to reconsider his statement.
The al-Qaida declaration called on followers to act “for the honor of our daughters and our sisters” and called on all Muslims “to respond to this hate.”
Hard-line Algerian militants left over from a civil war between radical Islamists and government forces in the 1990s joined al-Qaida in 2006. They regularly target Algerian government forces and have tried to step up attacks against foreigners.
[Editor’s Note: Nicholas Sarkozy’s remarks can be read here.
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(Posted on July 2, 2009)
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What Al Qaeda does not realize, or is perhaps too fanatical to care, is that the same kind of French “liberte, egalite, fraternite” liberalism that let AQ into France to begin with also wants to de-burquaize Muslim women. Racial equality, gender equality, samey same.
I’m certainly no defender of Al-Queda, but I don’t really care what people wear. I don’t think that’s the proper business of government to tell you how you should cover up. Doesn’t government interfere in too much already?
i feel like michelle obama when she said for the first time i’m proud of my country. i’m a descendant of the french people and since sarkozy has taken office in france “i’m almost proud of being a descendant of the french”
France is just too hateful a place for Muslims. And not to mention a wicked place too. Muslims should just leave.
“Muslim group swears vengeance over Sarkozy comment.”
France is about to rue the day they ever allowed these people in, and it began with the creation of the “no go zones” in their cities filled with third world fanatics.
They only have themselves to blame.
Vive la France!
“Doesn’t government interfere in too much already?”
The government is responsible for children. When girls are forced by their families and peers to where burqas then the government is responsible to provide freedom of choice. No future adult citizen of the republic should have been coerced as a child. That is anti-democratic and a violation of individual rights.
After the French Revolution, it could go even further than that as Question Diversity said above. The French government could go so far as to make teaching Islam, or any religion, illegal to children under eighteen years of age.
I agree voter. If Muslim women want to (or have to) wear whatever items of clothing, they can go right ahead.
The whole ‘burka issue’ is really a diversion from the real issue, and furthermore smacks of a sly, underhand attempt by Sarkozy to ‘punish’ muslims rather than to face up to reality.
I’m certainly no defender of Al-Queda, but I don’t really care what people wear. I don’t think that’s the proper business of government to tell you how you should cover up. Doesn’t government interfere in too much already?
If it were just the Abayaa I wouldn’t care either, but the Abayaa and it’s attendant customs (male domination of females) and the agenda of the muslims to overthrow/destroy non-muslim cultures that is the problem. There is NO ROOM FOR NON MUSLIMS in a muslim world, EVERYONE needs to get that into and through their heads!
“France’s huge muslim population are definitely not ‘brown skinned Frenchmen’ as Sarkozy claims but a profoundly alien presence in that ancient nation, an alien presence that is firstly and foremostly muslim and seondly Arab or Berber by ethnicity, the ‘French’ identity doesn’t register at all. needs them — whether or not he likes them, nor whether they like him.
“There is NO ROOM FOR NON MUSLIMS in a muslim world, EVERYONE needs to get that into and through their heads!”
That’s exactly what the fuzzy-headed socialists and liberals who are running Europe do NOT get through their heads. They are convinced, and completely believe it, that once Moslems are exposed to the liberal culture of the West, they will loosen up and drop their rigid ways and stop being Moslems. Western leaders don’t grasp that this culture is exactly what the Moslems detest and intend to destroy. The everything-goes culture that the liberals find so attractive, is what religious Moslems find sinful and hateful.
Western leaders are staking everything on a gamble that the Moslem masses will be won over and somehow become good Europeans, given time. This is nothing more than a blind assumption, based on trust and on hope and wishful thinking. It’s a lot to be gambling your country on!
Muslims were allowed into France decades ago without the imposition of ‘French dress-standards ’ from the government
Given free choice few Arab muslim women want to wear the abayaa and all that goes with it. Witness…take a flight to Saudia or Kuwait and as you approach you final destination watch the lovely muslim ladies take turns in the toilets to change into the abayaa, especially those from Saudia. Previous, they were in all liklihood dressed to the sexy 9s but could be beaten to death if they arrived home like that. If they chose NOT TO RETURN, it is likely they would have been kidnapped, of which I know several cases of just that from the U.of South Carolina
The primary reason for the government being against the burqa is facial recognition. More and more places are under camera surveillance and if people are allowed to wear the burqa, it renders all of these cameras completely ineffective. There have been crimes committed by men wearing burqas that were identifiable only due to their capture either during or immediately after the crime took place.
The primary reason for the government being against the burqa is facial recognition.
I don’t think Sarkozy is against ANYTHING muslim, see his previous speeches and comments about such. He is waffling because of the progress parties such as BNP and whatever the Francistan counterpart is. He wants to stay in power (as do all politicians to any end) and he doesn’t care who he throws under the bus to do so. The muslim WILL kill him though, so expect to see some “accomodation” another of the French words for surrender.
“I don’t think Sarkozy is against ANYTHING muslim; see his previous speeches and comments about such.”
And I think you’re right. He is full of contradictions, trying to head off and co-opt the French right while forestalling and appeasing the French left. But this issue goes beyond just Islam and Moslems. They don’t like him at all (and I am sure he must know that), but he is constantly trying to woo them.
The operative word here is not really “Islam” but “Diversity”. Globalists and miscegenationists such as Sarkozy are all for increasing the diversity, thus is he is for Islam…but only in that sense (more Islam means more diversity). The key thing is co cosmopolize and break down the host French population by weakening it and diluting it in any way possible. It’s just as we see happening in the US and in Canada.
That France will have at some point this century is an incontrovertible, inevitable, demographic fact that cannot be disputed.
I said he (Sarkozy) is constantly trying to woo them. Of course, I meant the Moslem countries OUTSIDE of France more so than the Moslems residing within France, of whom he seems almost contemptuous or at least indifferent. Well, they don’t vote for him and he doesn’t need them. Of course, someone like him would be delighted to maximize the diversity as much as possible (meaning the Arabic, Islamic, African presence), and correspondingly weaken the French nation (what is left of it); but he is playing with fire. He wants ever more Islam/Diversity, but at the same time, not too much of it! A person like Sarkozy would not want to live in an Islamic country. Indeed, he probably COULD not!
What in on earth does he think he is creating in France?!! Is he giving any thought at all to the future? Does he merely assume (like most Europeans) that everything will somehow work out?…that Africans and Moslems will drop their ways and become good “Frenchmen”? Well, that is the common French delusion; he’s not alone.
Unfortunately (as Digby says) no matter how small the initial flow, once started, it accelerates at an increasing rate until you’re inundated. It will get out of control. It’s like poking a little hole in the dyke; it quickly enlarges and once the ocean is pouring in, it’s very difficult ever to stop it! Very risky behavior!!! It’s most unwise to poke a hole in the dyke that’s protecting the country you’re living in!
In his neo-con craving for cheap labor, plus more ethnic and cultural diversity — anything non-European — he is flirting with disaster. Sarkozy may yet prove to be France’s undertaker, the one who poked the fatal hole in the dyke of Europe. Only history will tell us, but by then it will be too late.
So therefore the only real question is what sort of society a muslim dominated France will be?, will it resemble Turkey or Saudi Arabia for example.
This won’t matter, the REAL government will be ensconced in Saudia Arabia. The Saudis control the muslim world because of Mekkah, they (Saudis) do not allow just any muslim to go to Mekkah,for example, they will not allow Iraqis (except RICH ones) into Saudia for their pilgrimage and they don’t much care for blacks, especially American blacks.
>I’m certainly no defender of Al-Queda, but I don’t really care what people wear. I >don’t think that’s the proper business of government to tell you how you should >cover up. Doesn’t government interfere in too much already?
It looks like we have another race-less, culture-less, CLUELESS Libertarian posting his nonsense on Amren.com
These types can not accept the glaring LIVE OR DIE reality that there are different types of humans/cultures on planet earth and OUR PEOPLE, White Indo European Westerners face genocide and extinction by the invasion of hostile non Indo Europeans like Arab Muslims.
Large numbers of Arab Muslim women wearing the Muslim burqa IN FRANCE, this isn’t a question of fashion or an issue of too much BIG Government infringing on individual rights.
IT’S A GANG thing. The Arab Muslim gangs in formerly all White Indo European Countries are pushing their power, making threats, putting the word out that they will do to us what the did to White Indo Europeans in former French Algeria.
Please — voter, get out of the cursed Libertarian economic conservative cult and learn some true racial history.
Whites in French Algeria, Rhodesia, Haiti, Constantinople didn’t get driven out, raped, slaughtered by non Whites, Muslims because of issues of government regulation of private enterprise, higher rates of taxation, vouchers for private schools etc.
All is fair in love and war.
The Muslims understand this.
Too many Americans, Westerners seem to be clueless.
This cursed Libertarian cult of race-less individualism seems to be a huge problem.
Anybody have any ideas what to do with these types?
Neocon? Libertarian? Me? That’s news!
And where did I say anything about taxation and school vouchers??? Oh boy!
I never said that I welcomed them in the West. But once they’re here, I don’t very much care what they wear! That’s minor stuff. Is this all about clothes? To me, race and culture are more important than fashion.
Or are you one of those trusting French assimilationists who think (naively) that if the Moslems just learn proper French, drop their veils and burkhas, and dress like stylish Frenchwomen, then everything will be just hunkydorey and all problems will be solved?
I don’t!
voter writes:
>Neocon? Libertarian? Me? That’s news!
M’thinks the man doth protest too much.
It’s OK to confess one’s foolish sins against our people.
Many of us have fallen for the libertarian, economic conservative cop out.
It’s so much safer and reasonable to think that all our problems are not really racial problems, they are just “misunderstandings” of sound economics.
But, I vote Amren now takes a hard, uncompromising position on Libertarians, economic conservatives here in our place.
If we do not take a hard line, they will flood in as they always do, hang out and push their cowardly nonsense here and bore, drive off any men of courage and true idealism.
Too cowardly to fight
Voter whines that he and his kind aren’t responsible for tens of millions of non Whites, including Muslims flooding in to our formerly White Western countries:
>”I never said that I welcomed them in the West. But once they’re here, I don’t very >much care what they wear.
OK, maybe you and your kind didn’t actually invite or welcome the invasion, but I bet you didn’t do much or anything to stop it and I’ll bet my house that you and your family didn’t so much as give a word of encouragement to the likes of Le Pen and others who did speak out, organize to stop the Muslim invasions.
Hey Voter, you say that once the Muslims are in the West, you don’t much care how they dress. how about if they wear masks to hide their identities and carry large signs that say:
“Behead those who slander Islam”
And their idea of “slander” involves saying or thinking a negative thought about any Muslim anywhere in the world. This includes opposing the further immigration of 80 million Muslims to Western Europe, Australia, Canada or Montana!
So understand must of us here on Amren.com are under death sentence of Muslim beheading, so you can understand why most of us DO CARE about what Muslims wear, say, threaten and our position is a no compromising one:
Our countries are OUR COUNTRIES, Non Whites, especially 9th century crazed Muslim are not going to change OUR COUNTRIES, OUR CULTURE - the best option is for them to leave and GO BACK to THEIR COUNTRIES.
Yeah, I know, this position doesn’t support the open borders immigration policy of Libertarians and the Wall Street Journal… a nasty rag fit for wrapping smelly fish.
23 — organized Activist wrote:he and his kind aren’t responsible for tens of millions of non Whites, including Muslims flooding in to our formerly White Western countries. you and your kind didn’t actually invite or welcome the invasion, but I bet you didn’t do much or anything to stop it and I’ll bet my house that you and your family didn’t so much as give a word of encouragement to the likes of Le Pen and others who did speak out, organize to stop the Muslim invasions.
Hey Voter, you say that once the Muslims are in the West, you don’t much care how they dress. how about if they wear masks to hide their identities and carry large signs that say: “Behead those who slander Islam”.”
Me and my kind? What kind is that? Once again, you are taking one small comment about women’s dress and stretching it into a broad statement that covers virtually everything — including advocating beheadings!
I’ll say again that I don’t very much care what they WEAR; but I care much more about what they DO. [I never said that I didn’t care at all .] To me, their behaviour and their agenda are far more worrisome than their style of dress. I don’t see this cultural/racial struggle as a fashion show. If you consider that “whining”, so be it. Somehow, you twist that little comment into beheading people? And supporting an invasion? That’s utterly incredible! It’s irrational.
Open borders policy? Libertarians? Wall Street Journal? What the heck??? How on earth do you connect me with those? It’s so absurd, it’s almost funny. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot! You should devote some of that indiscriminate enthusiasm to attacking real issues — but sensibly — rather than attacking people who are on your side.
As for wild, unfounded allegations about not supporting LePen, or not speaking out, or not stopping the invasion, etc. …. What would YOU know about what I’ve done? You’d be very surprised. You have absolutely no idea what support I’ve given, so you haven’t an inch of ground for making such a baseless accusation — all spun out of nothing. What do you want to see — canceled checks or something? You should be prepared to hand over your house, as you offer; but you can keep it, because I am not going to tell you what is none of your damn business.
I must note here that you haven’t given us an inkling of what constructive efforts YOU have made either. What have YOU done? — other than attacking posters who make comments on Amren.
