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As if Detroit didn’t already didn’t have enough crime. The next big thing to come out of Detroit will be Black vs. Chicano turf wars and school fights like we already have in Southern California.
Posted by at 6:18 PM on February 28
Detroit had nowhere to go but up to begin with. Improving it, therefore, was not a very high bar to flop over.
Posted by St. Louis CofCC Blogmeister at 6:25 PM on February 28
Blacks displace whites. Latinos displace blacks. That’s why Latinos have revived Detroit somewhat. But blacks may get angry and retaliate. And I’ve noticed that East Asians (e.g., Chinese, Hmong, Cambodians) have an incredible ability to displace anyone!
But Latinos can only turn the city around to a small extent. If Latinos had the abilities and prowess of whites, Mexico wouldn’t be such an economic disaster, and Mexicans wouldn’t be pouring into the United States like rats deserting a sinking ship. It seems that Latinos are turning Detroit around because their achievements are measured relative to blacks’ comparable achievements. Latinos would be hindering Detroit, not helping it, if their efforts were compared to what whites would accomplish.
Posted by Matt at 6:49 PM on February 28
“The neighborhood is doing so well the mayor didn’t include it in his plan to pump millions of dollars into distressed areas.”
Naturally, the area is not black. Black is where Kilpatrick allocates all government funds.
Posted by at 6:51 PM on February 28
When white people do this it is called “gentrification” and receives scorn and criticism from the media.
Posted by Dave at 6:52 PM on February 28
““It wasn’t a neighborhood where you could walk down the street, Southwest Detroit Business Association deputy director Edith J. Castillo said. “Now, you can actually walk down West Vernor. You can take your family out for ice cream after church.””
LIAR!!!
West Vernor has ALWAYS been a bee hive of bussiness activity during daylight hours; this is not new news; however, West Vernor is also a high crime area rife with drug addicts, drug dealers, homeless alcoholics, ex-cons, etc., etc., etc. That area of the city is exceedingly dangerous especially after dark. If you don’t believe me, try hanging out at Clark Park on a hot summer night.
Posted by Zuschauer at 6:57 PM on February 28
So she “feels like she is at home” and “it’s a great feeling”.
Her good feelings come at the expense of my national “home” being destroyed bit by bit. And it’s not “a great feeling”!
Posted by kitty at 7:22 PM on February 28
Blacks are the reason Detroit is the way it is.
The difference between latinos and blacks is that, although many latinos are criminally minded and a detriment to civilization, most are not.
This situation is reversed with blacks. Except for a handful, MOST blacks are criminally minded and, as a population, blacks cannot sustain any of the hallmarks of civilization without intense, direct and continuing uplift from whites.
Witness Zimbabwe and now South Africa. All elements of modern society are collapsing as a direct result of blacks being in control. The exact same thing is happening in detroit but is limited by intervention by whites.
There is no hope that blacks will ever take their place in the modern world. In the US, the immigration issue is very much both parties plus corporate america giving up completely on them. They are attempting to replace blacks, completely in our society, with latinos.
Of some concern is what these people plan to do with blacks. Based on what they have been doing so far, as a society, we should be quite concerned.
Certainly, the “black problem” is an issue that does not lend itself to a ready solution. But, by no stretch of the imagination is the “final solution” an appropriate one. In such behaviors, the american left shows its clear links to fascism, not the soft, smiley face liberal fascism, but the hardcore nazi style fascism that shares its genesis with Marx and French Revolution.
Posted by at 7:38 PM on February 28
Another factor is the fact that whites will cleanse themselves from blackening areas pretty quickly, but tend to hang around in Latino areas as a dwindling minority.
Posted by Brendan at 7:46 PM on February 28
The Latinos are taking over. I’ve already given in to the fact that we have lost our historical culture and must now adapt or die for the future. Latinos are not girly like the Caucasians and I am Caucasian and a staunch American. As much as I am against immigration, I’d never support the racist African community over the Latino because the Latino are 1000 times better. The African community is the most racist on earth. Everything they do is an expression of their racism. They are animals and supporting any civilized tribe is much more honest and intelligent to do than supporting those people.
Posted by Elrey Jones at 8:32 PM on February 28
Most people, whites in particular, will never grasp the liberal black mindset when it comes to political office and public service in general. These blacks look at the public positions as chances to suck resources from the communities to include money, perks and always, prestige and power.
Liberal black community honchos are practiced on rhetoric and know how to play a black crowd like a cheap fiddle. The black politicos dress to the nines and in every public speech, they appeal to the toxic tribalism of a population who prioritizes style over substance — hands down.
The willful ignorance of the average black citizen is demanded.
A quick Bible verse, a story of how the administrator, councilperson or mayor (whomever is speaking) rose from chaos to their lofty position holds their flock in blind adoration. It’s no shame in the black “community” to blow your own horn and brag yourself up in public. These crowds are completely “owned”.
Because lying, graft and corruption get a wink and a pass from the local citizens in the black community, the pretty-suited political activist or politician knows they can basically milk the system for all it’s worth. After all, as the black citizens believe, whites owe them so it’s okay and anyway, things like character, integrity, personal responsibility and virtue are for white folks.
Blacks know that their growing numbers will reduce the community they live in to third-world status and that, in a few short years. They don’t care because it’s payback time, as they see it. Slavery, don’t cha know. If whites object, it’s “racism!”.
When blacks move in to a new community, they immediately demand a black parasite be appointed to high positions in the local government to represent — blacks. (ain’t diversity great?) They know that their brutha or sista will ultimately be elected to even higher posts as the black numbers grow.
After a few of their bruthas and sistas “get paid” while in office, blacks believe they have proved their tribal loyalty and then move on to another city or town. Then it starts all over again.
This IS the sick cycle common among the majority of blacks, and there’s no end in sight. Coming to a community near you! Maybe yours!
Posted by Proactive at 9:56 PM on February 28
I have seen a city block on Livernois Avenue in Detroit where Mexicans have fixed up the buildings and converted them into businesses. Previously, those buildings had been converted into near ruins by blacks that have been pillaging the city for decades. Where Mexican’s have moved into neighborhoods, there is an appearance of stability and some improvement. This is in contrast to the black areas, which inevitably appear to be undergoing an increasing level of decay. There are poor Whites living down in these areas of Detroit along side the Mexicans. You do not see poor Whites living along side Blacks in the ordinary neighborhoods of Detroit. Most areas of Detroit were ethnically cleansed of Whites many years back without comment by the mass media or any fuss made by politicians.
As Detroit went down the drain a lot of White people were hurt physically, financially and spiritually. The mass of White people just let this all happen. What is it about White people that allow them to relinquish control of an entire city to a criminalized community that hates them? I don’t see Mexican people doing that and I don’t think they would ever allow such a thing to happen. We came blame blacks all day but our own people are the problem.
Posted by Tim at 10:21 PM on February 28
How nice that people like Valeria Montes feel so “at home” in my hometown. And it’s because of all the people around her speaking Spanish? Because of all of those “Latino” businesses, there to “cater primarily to residents”? If I dare to visit, how will I fare, and how welcome will I be?
Not that I’d really care to, now. In my hometown (Detroit), we spoke English.
To Ms. Castillo’s statement : “It wasn’t a neighborhood where you could walk down the street”- Yes, it was. Once upon a time, not really all that long ago.
Then it was made dangerous for everybody by people who hate whites especially.
This doesn’t look like revitalization to me. It looks like colonization by a foreign people, with a different culture.
By the way, Latino is a misnomer. Illi latini non sunt.
Posted by W.D. at 10:31 PM on February 28
For far too many years Blacks have learned to expect government and tax payers to fix their problems. There is no work ethic, just a endless list of excuses and guilt trips. With the growing wave of Hispanics who still manage to find work, and start their own businesses, their excuses are ringing more hollow every day.
Posted by at 10:47 PM on February 28
I have seen a city block on Livernois Avenue in Detroit where Mexicans have fixed up the buildings and converted them into businesses. Previously, those buildings had been converted into near ruins by blacks that have been pillaging the city for decades. Where Mexican’s have moved into neighborhoods, there is an appearance of stability and some improvement. This is in contrast to the black areas, which inevitably appear to be undergoing an increasing level of decay. There are poor Whites living down in these areas of Detroit along side the Mexicans. You do not see poor Whites living along side Blacks in the ordinary neighborhoods of Detroit. Most areas of Detroit were ethnically cleansed of Whites many years back without comment by the mass media or any fuss made by politicians.
As Detroit went down the drain a lot of White people were hurt physically, financially and spiritually. The mass of White people just let this all happen. What is it about White people that allow them to relinquish control of an entire city to a criminalized community that hates them? I don’t see Mexican people doing that and I don’t think they would ever allow such a thing to happen. We came blame blacks all day but our own people are the problem.
Posted by Tim at 10:57 PM on February 28
The Mexicans who settle in Detroit will buy ghetto real estate at fire sale prices, make significant improvements on same (creating economic activity), and sell it back to the Blacks at a profit. The downside to this though is that the Blacks will be using all sorts of taxpayer subsidized sub-prime mortgage money gimmicks to buy back into the revitalized areas, trash the Barrio again, and default again.
Posted by Flaxen-headed Strumpet at 11:13 PM on February 28
This is quite an incredible documentary by a famous filmaker. The border/immigration issue is covered as part of the big picture. An excellent piece of film-making.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M19jzF8AwEA
Posted by at 11:14 PM on February 28
By the way, Latino is a misnomer.
Indeed. I don’t think most of these people are from Latium.
Posted by qwerty at 11:49 PM on February 28
I wonder how many cities in Mexico there are where you hear English and Americans “feel at home”?
Posted by at 12:58 AM on February 29
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““I feel like I’m at home,” [32-year-old dance instructor Valeria Montes] said. “I go to get a haircut, I speak Spanish. I go to mercado (market), I speak Spanish. My daughter goes to school and there are a lot of Latino kids. It’s a great feeling.””
Ya sure is a great feeling.
Well enjoy it while you can.
We will SEND you home soon!
One way or another
Posted by OZZY at 2:16 AM on February 29
There are many parts of Chicago that were formerly black and are now Mexican. I have no problems walking around a Mexican neighborhood but would not do so in a black neighborhood.
Posted by at 6:48 AM on February 29
“Without the manufacturing jobs that attracted many to places like Detroit, Milwaukee, Minneapolis and Chicago in the 1950s and 1960s, Latinos have found opportunities in their own backyards, Figueroa said.”
“Their own backyards”? Their own backyards are in Tijuana, Oaxaca, and Tegucigalpa. Their own backyards are dirt-patches containing unwashed urchins, empty Tecate cans, a makeshift cockfighting ring, and a ‘64 Impala up on blocks.
As other posters have noted, any “revitalization” of this area by Spanish-speaking Indios only looks good in relation to the above-ground Hades of the bantustan that preceded it. Compared to a WHITE area, this “Little Mexico” would suddenly reveal itself for what it really is: El Barrio, complete with all the dysfunction, overbreeding, low-achievement, drug abuse, drunk-driving, and gang-banging endemic to EVERY OTHER barrio on the planet.
Back in the early 20th Century, what made Detroit a population magnet in the first instance? Here’s a hint: it wasn’t the weather. It was, of course, The Big Three and related auto-making industries. Please note these mega-corporations were founded and built by people with names like Henry and Walter — and NOT names like Enrique and Octavio. Each of these companies could provide tens of thousands of jobs. How many thousands of jobs will Xochi’s Mayan pottery shop generate? How about Ignacio’s bodega? How about Consuela’s taco truck?
Reconquista — it’s not just for California any more!
Posted by The Incredible Shrinking White Man at 9:56 AM on February 29
Both mexican mestizos and indians will never be able to oppose the White uber elites in mexico. I have mixed feelings about this because I support Whites over browns in any circumstance.
Posted by JJ Bjornsson at 10:55 AM on February 29
There are many parts of Chicago that were formerly black and are now Mexican. I have no problems walking around a Mexican neighborhood but would not do so in a black neighborhood.
As another poster once stated, living in a Mexican neighborhood with a gang presence is kind of like living in an Italian neighborhood controlled by the mafia many years ago. If you don’t mess with their business, they generally won’t bother you. Also, the Mexican gangs around here are controlled by the Mexican Mafia, which is closely allied with the Aryan Brotherhood. There is little chance that they’ll ever jeopardize their relationship with the ABs by “green lighting” whites the way that they have blacks.
Posted by qwerty at 1:37 PM on February 29
This summer I am going to visit some of my cousins up near Detroit…I will make sure I take a nice spin around the whole areas like Dearborn and parts of Detroit we can drive though….maybe without being shot at….then I will let all Amren readers know if the so called latino’s made a difference at all…but in all honesty….I hardley think so…afer all instead of lawn furniture out in the yard …they have about a dozen stolen cars up on blocks….we shall see.
Posted by lydia at 2:04 PM on February 29
Revitalization - No, transformation, yes.
Revitalization is when the existing population brings back the viability of their city on their own. Replacing the existing population with another is nothing but transformation of the city, the original population was not revitalized but replaced. It’s a simple concept to understand, why are we continuously propagandized to believe otherwise?
Replacement is not revitalization, just ask any worker replaced by a foreigner imported to replace them who will work for poverty wages. Was the displaced worker revitalized? I think not.
Posted by Anonymous at 2:34 PM on February 29
Why can’t blacks do this? Because liberal policies have told them that they are inferior, can’t succeed, and need help from the government just to live.
Posted by at 2:50 PM on February 29
“It wasn’t a neighborhood where you could walk down the street,”
“I feel like I’m at home,” [32-year-old dance instructor Valeria Montes] said. “I go to get a haircut, I speak Spanish. I go to mercado (market), I speak Spanish. My daughter goes to school and there are a lot of Latino kids. It’s a great feeling.”
When whites say these things, it’s not turned into a feature article about, “broad-brimmed western hats, colorful festival dance dresses and Mayan-style pottery” or turned into a means by which to celebrate diversity, nor does the speaker become the local “Business Association deputy”, When whites say these things it pretty much confines them to the pages of AmRen.
Posted by LHathaway at 3:03 PM on February 29
So Latinos are better than Blacks?
High praise indeed.
Will Latinos “help revitalize” white neighborhoods or cities?
Not in our lifetime (or anyones else’s either).
Posted by Dennis at 3:09 PM on February 29
Mexican town actually attacts White suburbanites from the Metro division, who come to dine at their restaurants, which is also bringing in extra revenue. The mostly Black section of the city is one that is avoided at all costs. Commuters stay on the freeway, and don’t think of getting off. until they reach downtown, or their intended destination. So yes, it is safe to say that Whites do feel more comfortable among Hispanics than Blacks.
Posted by at 4:45 PM on February 29
As other posters have noted, any “revitalization” of this area by Spanish-speaking Indios only looks good in relation to the above-ground Hades of the bantustan that preceded it. Compared to a WHITE area, this “Little Mexico” would suddenly reveal itself for what it really is: El Barrio, complete with all the dysfunction, overbreeding, low-achievement, drug abuse, drunk-driving, and gang-banging endemic to EVERY OTHER barrio on the planet.
Posted by The Incredible Shrinking White Man at 9:56 AM on February 29
Excellent point! I would rather live in a Mexican neighborhood than a black neighborhood, but would be miserable in either.
Blacks are more prone to violence and riots, but mestizos are ghetto-makers as well. Both groups LOVE littering and drunk driving, and I’ve seen a lot more loitering and public urination from latinos than blacks. While the few Detroit whites may be choosing to live in the Mexican area rather than the black area, it shouldn’t be seen as an endorsement of their culture.
Mexicans litter like there is no tomorrow, but I’ve noticed that the darker the local meztisos are the more they litter. My area of Northern Virginia used to have growing litter problems when we had an influx of Mexicans who looked about 1/2 white. It was disturbing enough back then!
Now we are inundated by Mexicans and Central Americans who look 100% Indian; I see men under 5 ft tall with dark skin and Aztec noses, and some of the women are closer to 4 ft tall and look directly out of the jungle. With the darkening of the “undocumented” has come and EXPLOSION in litter. Disgusting! They also steal shopping carts and leave them all over private property.
Our condo complex just had our first “tagging” incident. Some degenerate used black spray paint to write something illegible on our concrete stairs that face the bus stop frequented by the Amigos from the apartments across the street. We’re planning to put in a 4ft tall wrought iron fence to cut the bus stop off from our property. I hope it works - our lawyers are afraid that the County will refuse to give us the fence permit because we’ve made so many complaints about their refusal to fight trespassing on our property (which the county has tacitly encouraged by not building sidewalks to their bus stops).
Anyone who thinks living in latino neighborhoods isn’t bad has never noticed that the lighter/taller Mexicans like to leave the barrio for white neighborhoods when the darker/shorter “mexicans” move in. Call it Mestizo flight, or jungle-fication…the more Indian the Mexicans are, the less they are compatible with civilization! A majority Mexican neighborhood can still slide further downhill as the turnover in the hovels goes more and more Indian. Rejects from the Central American jungle have very low IQs and no place in a western society - they also have HORDES of kids, none of which will ever contribute to progress.
Posted by Jill at 4:47 PM on February 29
As if Detroit didn’t already didn’t have enough crime. The next big thing to come out of Detroit will be Black vs. Chicano turf wars and school fights like we already have in Southern California.
The same thing is likely to happen in the city of New Orleans, which has an ever growing Chicano population. I think many Americans have had blinders on believing such conflicts will remain limited to the West coast. Today, Black flight is on the rise, and Blacks are running to White communities at an even faster pace than before.
Posted by at 5:21 PM on February 29
“I go to get a haircut, I speak Spanish. I go to mercado (market), I speak Spanish. My daughter goes to school and there are a lot of Latino kids. It’s a great feeling.”
So basically this lady say things that would make her the most reviled person in Detroit, if said by a white - oh the hand wringing and soul searching, and she doesn’t even bat an eye.
Posted by at 5:45 PM on February 29
In line with what another poster said, try the story like this:
“The quaint, independently owned coffee shops, organic grocery co-ops and art galleries are common sights in the neigborhoods of trendy coastal cities.
But this is southwest Detroit on a cold, dreary winter day, not SoHo, Cambridge, or Seattle.
White people are carving out a niche in neighborhoods far from the suburban enclaves — from Bagley Street here to the Mitchell Street area in Milwaukee to Bailey’s Crossroads in Fairfax County, Va.
“A number of white people who are moving in — whether yuppie liberals or conservative young professionals — are finding jobs downtown,” said John Smith, professor at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee.
Grocery stores and pharmacies along Mitchell Street and in other parts of town attract non-whites, but it’s whites that keep the sandwich shops and Irish pubs open.
“There is enough money in the economy that people can sustain retail establishments by primarily relying on a white clientele,” Smith said.
“I feel like I’m at home,” 32-year-old dance instructor Jane Doe said. “When I go to get my hair done, the hairdresser speaks proper English. I go to the co-op, the staff speaks English. My daughter goes to school and there are a lot of white kids. It’s a great feeling.”
Posted by Dave at 6:31 PM on February 29
funny how things have changed, poor whites from the south who came north during the fourties & fifties got very little respect or consideration from their fellow white Detroiter’s. we were called all kind’s dirty names, the native whites let us know that they were boss! not so now with black’s.
Posted by Chuck Hayes at 10:35 PM on February 29
Excellent point! I would rather live in a Mexican neighborhood than a black neighborhood, but would be miserable in either.
I’ve lived in both. Believe me when I tell you that Mexicans are far superior to blacks.
Posted by qwerty at 7:58 AM on March 1
One thing is true about hispanics. They displace white people from their neighborhoods. Wherever hispanics go, whites flee. Because of this I view latinos with utter contempt.
Posted by sandstorm at 2:45 PM on March 1
qwerty:
Mexicans are far superior to Blacks?
I would take issue with you on that one. It has been my experience that both groups are about the same in intellect.
Posted by Brian at 3:12 PM on March 1
Mexicans are far superior to Blacks?
I would take issue with you on that one. It has been my experience that both groups are about the same in intellect.
You must have had experience with the Mexicans in California. I’ve not had too much trouble with Arizona or Texas Mexicans, but I’ve heard horror stories about Mexicans in California. They’re evidently a rotten bunch. I attribute it to the facts that California is a huge welfare magnet and that most white men there are emasculated liberals who never keep or bear arms or defend themselves even if the idiots in Sacramento allowed them to.
Things are a bit different in Texas and Arizona. The white men here are still men. We have the right to keep and bear arms for our security and defense and we often do so and the Mexicans know it. And like I said, California is a huge welfare magnet that draws the worst of the Mexican invasion unto herself.
Posted by qwerty at 11:39 PM on March 1
lydia:”This summer I am going to visit some of my cousins up near Detroit…I will make sure I take a nice spin around the whole areas like Dearborn and parts of Detroit we can drive though….”
Dearborn is comprised of one of the largest population of Arabs (both Muslim and Chaldean) outside of the Middle-east, but Euros are still maintain a slight majority. Dearborn is relatively clean and safe and middleclass.
Southwest Detroit, the area cited in the article, is a mixture of poor Whites, Blacks, and Latinos — it always has been that way. The area is home to some of the best Mexican restaurants in North America…no kidding. But if you choose to dine at one during your visit — for safety purposes — do it during lunchtime hours (11am to 3pm).
If you want to tour some real nasty black ghetto slums in Detroit, Outer Dr./Lasher area on the Northwest side, and Dickerson/Houston-Whittier area in the Northeast side will be sure to please. Enter at your own risk, and make sure you roll up your windows and lock the doors when driving through. LOL
Posted by Zuschauer at 8:54 PM on March 2
In my neighborhood I went to a McDonald’s the other day, all I seen there were hispanics. I thought black unemployment is extremely high! I said to myself, where are these blacks and why aren’t they clamoring for these jobs? It doesn’t take a scientist to figure it out. They’re collecting welfare.
Posted by sandstorm at 2:12 PM on March 3
If mestizo areas are “better” than black areas, it’s only because white people are less likely to be ROBBED, RAPED & KILLED in the former than in the latter.
And that’s not setting the bar very high, is it?
In my years in LA — which is of course Ground Zero for Reconquista — I’ve known many white people (myself included) who’ve lived in Mexican neighborhoods. In my case, I certainly didn’t ENJOY my time in El Barrio — in fact, the noise, chaos, and general primitiveness of my Mexican neighbors made those years the most miserable of my life — but at least I got out with both my tires and my neck arteries unslashed.
I’ve known exactly ONE white here who lived in Da Get-toe (Watts), and that was an artist/sculptor type who needed a lot of square-footage on the cheap. He claims his black neighbors leave him alone (possibly because it’s hard to find a “fence” who’ll buy stolen sculptures), and that he likes living there. I wish him the best of luck with his homesteading — but I don’t go to his homestead. He knows that if he wants to see his white friends, he’s got to come to US in (what’s left of) the city’s white neighborhoods, because we sure as shootin’ ain’t going down to Watts.
It’s revealing that, of the hundreds (if not thousands) of whites here whom I’ve listened to boast about how wonderful black people are, I’ve only ever met ONE who actually lived among them. You can’t really get a more reliable indicator of white liberals’ true feelings than that. Don’t listen to what they say — look at where they choose to move.
Posted by A Paler Shade of White at 3:38 PM on March 3
Does anyone still think we’re headed for a North American Union? Forget it - we’re almost there. What a sorry state we’ve come to. I’m glad I’m old enough to have know a proud and beautiful country. What a contrast to think of it as it was and as it is now - a bunch of traitorous cowards handing it over to third worlders as fast as they can. Do they (our elected officials) profit from this? I’d like to know, and in what way.
Posted by June at 5:40 PM on March 3
Sandstorm: “One thing is true about hispanics. They displace white people from their neighborhoods. Wherever hispanics go, whites flee. Because of this I view latinos with utter contempt.”
Because of this I view whites with utter contempt. I can think of countless ways to drive out the Hispanics and yet I see very little evidence of it anywhere. We must accept the fact that we must do things we are loathe to do and if we don’t do these things we will have no one to blame but ourselves when we are eventually reduced to disenfranchised second-class minority citizens in the land of our fathers…
Posted by at 11:03 AM on March 10
Immigration is here to stay. Time for the radical right-wingers here to accept change and the fact that segregation is a thing of the past. It’s 2008.
Posted by WhiteLiberal at 8:47 PM on March 12
