House Panel Approves Bill Allowing Armed Teachers

Kathleen McGrory, Miami Herald, March 11, 2015

Is the third time a charm for a proposal that would allow Florida teachers to pack heat?

Some members of the state House of Representatives hope so.

The controversial bill, which won the support of the House K-12 Education Subcommittee on Wednesday, is likely to move quickly in the lower chamber.

But it may struggle to win votes in the more moderate Senate–largely because of opposition from the teachers union and PTA.

The proposal (HB 19) would let schools superintendents designate employees or volunteers to carry concealed weapons on school property.

Any designated individuals would have to have served in the military or law enforcement, and undergo special training from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

They would also need to hold concealed weapons permits.

State Rep. Greg Steube, R-Sarasota, says the measure would keep students and teachers safe in a school shooting.

“Most of our elementary schools do not have a school resource officer or anyone there that can respond to any type of armed threat,” Steube said. “So they are at the whim of a shooter until a law enforcement officer gets there.”

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  • Speaking of Miami, even though malls are on hard times, thanks to a combination of online shopping and mahogany mobs, not to mention the occasional ISIS threat or three, guess what some fool wants to do? Build a new mega mall in Miami.

    If the thing opens, you can count the seconds between the official public opening and the first mahogany mob.

    • Oil Can Harry

      I’m thinking of starting a plastic surgery business targeting Miami Latinas. It’s gonna be called The Mariel Butt Lift.

  • JackKrak

    True story – Dade County schools (home of the ex-American city of Miami) has its own police force.

    A.school.district.has.its.own.police.force.

    • Jeff

      That’s not at all uncommon here in California. Many school districts here have their own police force.

    • Nancy

      Here in Gwinnett County, GA, the school district has its own, too. They’re called the Gwinnett County School Police Department, have their own special patrol cars, guns, etc. Their actions are just as enforceable as regular police. I believe there’s one cop per “cluster”, and he goes from school to school. (A cluster consists of one high school and the elementary/middle schools which feed into it.) There’s 24 full-time school cops, but only 19 high schools, so I’m guessing the worst clusters get an extra one. The one for our cluster is very visible…I see him everywhere.

      The days of having a single “rent-a-cop” in high school to bust kids for sneaking off campus is over. Ours was an old dude wearing a tan trench coat, and he drove a crappy car. We called him Inspector Gadget.

      • Our high school campus was “open”, which meant that so long as we didn’t have a class scheduled for a certain period, we weren’t required to remain in the building. My senior year, I had no classes Wednesday afternoons, and neither did my girlfriend. We ate lunch at my mother’s place and made out all afternoon on Wednesdays.

  • RacialRay

    Remember back when they had to arm teachers in all-white public schools?

    Yeah, neither do I.

    • Samuel Hathaway

      Remember when the most seriously disciplinary problems in white schools were talking out of turn, running the hallway, and chewing gum?

      • HE2

        Wuul, yeah. It could get heavy.
        I was sent to Mother Superior’s office once for a wrinkled gym shirt.

        • My mother and her friends were sent home from high school for wearing clothes that clashed. This was approximately 1958 or 59.

          • HE2

            That is funny, MCS. Were they escorted by the Fashion Police?
            We had to stand on a line for inspection before every gym class. Our gym uniforms were to be clean, militarily pressed, shoes, laces and socks sparkling white. Cotton tops and shorts, no polyester allowed.
            I apparently had not properly hung my blouse in the gym locker, consequently it fell to the bottom and wrinkled. Off to the office with you, girl, no mercy. As one who always followed the rules, I was mortified.
            Imagine enforcing such discipline on a class of bantus. Rules are racist.

      • ElComadreja

        I remember a student punching out a teacher. He wound up in jail.

    • Ken Dometriosis .

      Yep! No rapes of the white girls, no drugs, no metal detectors, no cops patrolling the halls, no graffitti, no dumbed down SAT tests, no black his’ry munff lies, no holohoax lies, no PC piglice. Aaahhh yes, the good ol days!

  • Cheri Rodriguez

    I wrote an editorial to my local paper in 1995 advocating arming teachers. Would’ve been nice if they’d listened to me 20 years ago.

    • Nancy

      I would’ve done it in a heartbeat.

      • Cheri Rodriguez

        You wouldn’t have to arm an entire school either; just make all the teachers firearms qualified but only have a few packing per day on a rotating basis. This way the bad guys never know who exactly is carrying.

  • Having teachers carry guns could easily backfire in today’s racial climate. The first white teacher to pull a gun on a black student who claims “I din do nuffins” is going to create a firestorm similar to that of Darren Wilson. The pressure to race replace white teachers with blacks will be enormous, just like the pressure to race replace all white cops with blacks is now enormous.

    It would be better to post a police officer or two at each school. Let the cops take the heat instead of the teachers.

    • Cheri Rodriguez

      Part of the required course work for teachers should be martial arts training. They make you take phys. ed. as an undergrad and should make you take martial arts as a grad student.

    • What we need to do is enforce segregation by busing and use of police power the same way we had desgregation imposed on us by the same. No whites should have to spend energy trying to think of ways to make T.N.B. slightly less dangerous. No whites should have to spend time thinking about ways to dump tax dollars down this bottomless, returnless pit called “education” of blacks. I put that in quotes because as anyone who’s ever been around blacks in a learning environment can attest, it’s not really education so much as it is daycare for adult-children.

      • Samuel Hathaway

        Taxpayer-funded daycare for adult-children. Thank you for the hearty laugh on that one. Yes, sad, but true. You hit the nail on the head with that one.

      • Nancy

        Yep. The ones I taught were just occupying space (when they weren’t fighting, yelling, stealing change from my purse, and tearing up my classroom. They were about as useless as the “seat fillers” at the Oscars.

        • I loved my students, but I taught college undergraduate chemistry lab classes. Heaps of difference!

      • ElComadreja

        It’s warehousing until they’re ready for prison.

    • ElComadreja

      Let the blacks edumacate each other. That ought to be good for a laugh.

  • IstvanIN

    Why not just use that really thick, bullet-proof lexan between the “students” and the teacher?

    • LHathaway

      Funny.

      Us and the Muslim world seem to be spinning as two repellent particles inside an atom. I can just see some Muslim preacher, or educator, teaching students about the bullet proof glass put up everywhere in America.

    • Ken Dometriosis .

      Why not just deport all the non-white scum?

  • John Smith

    They ought to have access to crew-served weapons in inner-city and inner-ring suburban schools.

  • Vito Powers

    Why pussy-foot around? It’s long past time to overturn Brown vs Board of Education, that horrible US Supreme Court decision that removed “separate but equal” in 1954.

    Let’s just segregate the Negroes like the savages animals they are. While we’re at it, let’s re institute sterilization laws too.

    I have a dream ….

  • Eagle1212

    That’s how shooters in schools need to be dealt with, the teachers have the right to defend themselves and protect their students, if a home invader breaks into my home and damages my belongings, I will shoot. Without teachers or administration arming themselves, the shooter will end up winning in the end unless they do so.

  • I have very mixed feelings about this. Students who are dangerous enough that teachers need weapons should be in prison and not school.

    • Right. Teachers should have the occasional gun for school mass shooters. But they should have non-lethal weapons like Tasers, pepper spray and bean bag guns for the less deadly menaces.

      • I used to have an old USMC flare pistol in 10-gauge caliber. With a good heat treat on the barrel, breech and frame of one of these, an excellent beanbag round could be developed.