# DOJ Uses Faulty Calculation in Ferguson Report

Jared Taylor, American Renaissance, March 6, 2015

According to the DOJ report, when blacks in Ferguson are searched after a traffic stop they are 26 percent less likely than whites to have contraband on them. That figure is wrong. Thirty percent of whites and 24 percent of blacks have contraband, but the difference is 20 percent, not 26 percent.

The difference between 24 and 30 is 6. To find by what percent 24 is smaller than 30, you divide 6 by 30 to get 0.2, which is 20 percent. DOJ stupidly divided by 24, which is 0.25 or 25 percent. (It arrived at 26 percent, presumably, due to rounding of the original figures.)

To understand DOJ’s error better, imagine that whites had contraband 50 percent of the time, and blacks only 25 percent. The way DOJ did the math, (50-25)/25 = 1.0, would mean that blacks were 100 percent less like to have contraband–an absurd result. The correct calculation is (50-25)/50 = 0.5, or 50 percent less likely.

Here’s the quote directly from page 65 of the DOJ report:

Despite being searched at higher rates, African Americans are 26% less likely to have contraband found on them than whites: 24% of searches of African Americans resulted in a contraband finding, whereas 30% of searches of whites resulted in a contraband finding.

Vox includes the faulty 26 percent figure in one of the “6 most damning findings from the DOJ’s report.”

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• MrBiIIGoode .

Astute observation. Can’t let anything slide when dealing with the leftist media machine .

• Jason Lewis

Even correcting them won’t help. Remember with them it’s the accusation that is important not the evidence.

• JackKrak

That’s ok – 1 in 3 women is beaten on Super Bowl Sunday, at least half of all whites in America today are descended from slave owners, the ideal teacher-student ratio is 1:5, gas is \$3 a gallon because oil companies stole all the oil from Iraq, the minimum wage should be increased to \$75 an hour and teachers should be paid at least 100k a year, global warming has caused an increase of around 12 degrees since 1950, cars should get at least 200 miles to the gallon without compromising safety, etc.

See, I’ve learned all about math and statistics from reading the mainstream media for years.

• LS Wight

lol. 75% of all statistics are completely made up and 95% of American sheeple believe them!

• Guest

You can name whatever you want, but if you do not name the j 3 vv , then you are not a nationalist, let alone patriotic.

• Reynardine

The ideal teacher-student ratio is obviously 1:1 and is satisfied by easily by homeschooling. 😉

• libertarian1234

“Thirty percent of whites and 24 percent of blacks have contraband, but the difference is 20 percent, not 26 percent.”

This shows us quite clearly that the best way to dumb down the presidency and its administration is to elect a black as president, which means those he appoints will be mentally challenged types or blacks, which amount to the same thing.

That this Marie Harf applied her Orwellian programming to ISIS is proof of that. She’s been conditioned to excuse black lack of accomplishment for so many years by blaming societal factors, rather than their inability to learn and their natural propensity for crime and violence, she automatically applies the same excuses to terrorists world wide and other criminals and killers. She regards them as victims of bad environments and other outside forces.

She thinks they’ll stop cutting off heads if only they had a job.

I’m surprised the community organizer didn’t give black representative Hank Johnson a science grant so he could pursue his theory that the island of Guam would tip over if too many people got on one side of it.

• I was going to buy “The Manchurian Candidate” as an addition to my collection of old movies. Trouble is, it would hit too close to home.

• Hammerheart

I’m waiting for all these lies to finally blow up and come to head. It may be right around the corner, especially if ISIS manages to invade Italy this year or the next.

• libertarian1234

We’ll also to see a HUGE economic crash if ISIS decides to give the go ahead for their cells to attack businesses and landmarks here.

The same would happen if they were to target EU areas.

I’ve often wondered why the jihadists decided to crash into the World Trade Center if their aim was to destroy the US economy. All they need to do is have their mentally challenged suicide bombers cross the Rio Grande, targeting many areas, and this country would be doomed economically.

• TomIron361

jihadists decided to crash into the World Trade Center
———————————————————————
You really think it was those morons who did that?

• Wondered? They’ve all but openly stated that. They want to wreck our economy with a thousand paper cuts. They probably won’t do anything big, as in 9/11-big, for awhile, but they’ll do one teeny weeny little attack after another after another until it makes us spin out of control.

• Bill Moore

Hello Libertarian 1234,

A decade ago a fellow driving an old car and another man in the trunk with a rifle had Washington DC and the surrounding area in a state of turmoil for months.

They went around shooting people at random, and had the entire area in a state of dysfunction.

Since there are about six million Islamists in the USA, it would be easy to have a hundred thousand of these nice folks start shooting people at random outside of shopping malls and in gas stations. The economy would take a major dip.

We’re very vulnerable to this sort of thing, and I don’t understand why it hasn’t happened yet.

Bill Moore

• DonReynolds

Maybe…..just maybe…..if ISIS storms the Vatican and nails the pope and his cardinals to wooden crosses ……Maybe Obama will admit that they really are Muslims.

• Fat Chance. The Left would say it was partly justified, because of the Crusades. And, btw, didn’t another Muslim already try to kill Pope John Paul II?

• Irish

Yes, a Bulgarian, but that wasn’t about religion. He was working for the Soviets who were infuriated with The Holy Father’s backing of The Solidarity movement in his native Poland..You may recall (If your old enough) John Paul met with the would be assassin in his cell 6 months later. Prayed with him and forgave him.

• Yes, but, “just so happened” to be Muslim. Hmmmm…..There can always be more than one motivation.

• LS Wight

(Crickets chirp.) It doesn’t seem to me like there was any issue. Seems like the people in the US are just all too happy to tolerate every last bit of it and won’t lift a finger to stop it! (Because that would be rayciss, rayciss, rayciss)

• Whitetrashgang

Its not like blacks to be out done in that department, there must be something else to this story.

• NoMosqueHere

Maybe it’s just affirmative action math in action.

• LexiconD1

Or Common Core.

• Most of these stats and calculations are meaningless in the vacuum of the black mind and the anti-White Whites who constantly make excuses for them.

What percentage of traffic stops yields a black man with previous arrests and felony convictions versus a White man with previous arrests and felony convictions? What percentage of black people become verbally abusive, evasive and uncooperative during a traffic stop(or any pedestrian being questioned as well) versus White people? What percentage of black people are walking alone or in groups in high crime areas versus White people doing the same thing? In a city or town with a 25% or more black population, what percentage of suspect descriptions involve a black man and/or group of black men?

African Americans accounted for 95% of Manner of Walking in Roadway charges, and 94% of all Failure to Comply charges

This is supposed to represent some kind of racial bias? Really!? I think this might have something to do with the fact that black people are in the streets 24/7. It doesn’t matter if it’s 1AM or 1PM, there are just generally more black people roaming the streets. Many of them will literally walk down the middle of a road and dare drivers to hit them. Everyone reading this has seen this with their own eyes if you live anywhere near black people. You’ve also seen endless videos that show the attitudes the average black person when out in public. They intentionally draw attention to themselves, but then whine and cry racist when they get the attention of law enforcement.

• Marilyn

In was driving my friends home one night and they live in an area that isn’t great and I always see the guys walking in a group, like a pack. I always lock my doors and drive as quickly as legally possible to get away

• Tell your friends to move.

• Bill Moore

Hello,

I was driving down a one-lane alley in New Kensington, PA with my girlfriend. A full-grown African stepped into the path of my car and stood there looking at me. I slowed down, and sped up when I got close to him.

My girl friend screamed, the African jumped out of the way. Then she asked me why I didn’t stop. I informed her that if she is in the same situation, she should do the same thing as I did. If we had stopped, there was probably a gang of Africans waiting to jump us. If the African had not moved, and I hit him, I would just kept on going.

Better to take the chance of being charged with hit and run instead of being beaten and gang-raped, and then possibly murdered.

Just My Thoughts,

Bill Moore

• Jim

Well, blacks are more likely to run (and being faster, more likely to escape) from the cops. 🙂

But this “blacks break the law less than whites” argument is another insane example of the don’t-believe-what-your-eyes-tell-you…we-have-statistics-that-will-prove-you-wrong style of deception that ALWAYS comes from the Left. Seriously, white cops may be less willing to search black suspects – or even pull them over – if they think it will lead to a confrontation.

• Blacks are faster, on average, than Whites. But, fortunately, their wearing of saggy pants kind of negates that advantage. And you thought there was nothing useful about urban fashion?

• Marilyn

And bright colored shoes which some light up!

• MekongDelta69

Dey beez maff may-jahz…

• DonReynolds

ah yes…..13 percent of the population but commit over 50 percent of the violent crime……that is why equality is a bloody lie

• But that only means that they are (50-13=37) 37% more likely to be criminals than Whites. Not THAT big a disparity, right? (With my math skills, I think I should work for the Justice Department! LOL.)

• Martel

That sort of math marks you as overqualified at the DOJ.

• Mengerian Knight

Recently SJWs have been claiming that most people on food stamps are white by comparing the absolute number of whites to the absolute number of blacks and Hispanics. The very numbers they cite, when compared with census data, show that whites are less likely to be on food stamps, as a percentage of the population.

So does this mean that arithmetic is racist, and a tool of the white cis male power structure to oppress marginalized groups?

• John Smith

Liberals just don’t get it when you explain proportions to them.

• shawnmer

Oh, they GET it. They will seamlessly jump back and forth between raw numbers, proportion, unrepresentative samples, or even outright anecdotes, depending entirely on which method yields them a talking point! Pure intellectual dishonesty.

• John Smith

Some, but many really are that stupid.

• Mack0

I check idiots every time on this kind of error. As you probably know, wiping the smug smiles off their faces is a joyous experience.

• Dave West

The NY Times actually has a map that shows food stamp recipients by county and breaks down the recipients in each county by race. In some counties in Eastern Ky and WV the white food stamp usage rate was around 20%; these were the exceptions with regards to food stamp usage among whites. In most places white food stamp usage appeared to be between 3 and 10 percent. In many poor counties in the MS Delta, for example, the white usage rate was 6 to 7 %, while the black rate almost always exceeded 35% and was up to 55% in some MS counties. In major urban areas the white rate was always below 10% and the black rate was at least 25% depending on the city. With regards to those statistics, white usually includes hispanic.

• shawnmer

Actually even that’s not true, whites don’t even outnumber blacks on welfare in absolute numbers anymore, proportionally isn’t even close.

Google “welfare statistics by race” and “statisticbrain.”

And Jared, for Pete ‘ s sake, adjust the Disqus filter settings and let us post links without moderator approval!

• John Smith

I’m sure a black guy did the calculations, not a Jewish or Asian one, with predictable results.

• Or a liberal White guy that assumed we were all as stupid as black people.

• stonepillow

On Fox411 today

In a new promo for the upcoming season of E!’s Keeping Up with the Kardashians, Kim Kardashian spills the details on her sex life with husband Kanye West.

“I’ve been having sex 500 times a day,” a tired-looking Kim says.
My question is – how long do you have to count on your fingers to reach that number?

• John Smith

FOX is sooo conservative to spend its time promoting some disgusting mudshark whose only “talent” has been screwing negroes in front of a camera.

• Marilyn

That’s what kanyes good at..sex and interrupting speeches

• LHathaway

Not to be a provocateur, or even to let my true feelings out about the issue. . but I watched a video of his latest interruption – he seems like a man with ‘tendencies’. It’s good to know he can rise above it.

• Reverend Bacon

I think it’s clear that this is due to being unclear on the concept, rather than nefarious. Otherwise, they could have correctly said that whites were 26% more likely to have contraband than blacks.

This doesn’t change the fact that I’m not sure I believe it in the first place. Part of it is the fact that there was a bigger sample size of blacks, presumably because they are known to be worse drivers. The Eric Holder myth about turnpike stops exposed that; cops can’t tell the race until after they stop someone.

It’s good to analyze their material they publish, because it’s unlikely to be presented fairly. I’d like to see some deeper digging than this, too.

In the original stop-and-frisk nonsense report in NYC, they actually dropped a zero to show falsely that blacks weren’t any more likely to be criminals than whites. I sent that in with my comments, but never heard back on it. Surprise.

• In the end, facts and logic mean little to Cultural Marxists. They think on feelings. And they assume that if they repeat the same lies over and over, people will just accept them.

• Reverend Bacon

I think that’s true, but I also think that if they understood math well, they wouldn’t be Cultural Marxists. While there are other elements of the perfect storm that created such a bumper crop of them, one of the elements is, in my opinion, that the advent of calculators and computers created mentally lazy people where math is concerned. When I “woke up” I started running numbers; I truly believe that if I didn’t have the ability to do that, I’d still be asleep.

Liberals look at anecdotes which fit their narrative, and use those to appeal to pathos. Occasionally, they butcher statistics and claim to be using logos. But most of them have no idea what they’re talking about.

• TheCogitator

Should we be surprised? The liberal mind tends to be weak in the hard sciences and math. Their specialty is feel good nonsense. Also they are liars.

• David Ashton

Math is a construction of white male heterosexual privilege.

• David Ashton

Lies, damn lies, statistics, lying statistics to damn “honky”?

• DonReynolds

Proof once again that figures do not lie, but LIARS may do the figuring.
We see this every day with self-serving and falsely reported “polls”, intending to influence the public discussion of an agenda held by only a few.

• Evette Coutier

The DOJ is run by blacks. You can expect them to be able to count.

• A black in Ferguson is 7x more likely to be arrested than a white in Ferguson.

Nationally, that statistic is 8x.

Remember, there’s Ferguson and then there’s Ferguson. The Fergaza Strip we have all come to know and love in the last seven months is southeast Ferguson, all the apartment farms. Most of the rest of Ferguson is owner occupied single family or single household middle to upper middle age housing stock suburbia, about evenly split between black and white.

• Steve_in_Vermont

The DOJ is using the “new math”. Jared is using “old math”. According to the latest teaching methods they are both right and everyone will get an award.

• TheCogitator

And if the minimum wage were \$100 an hour, what would a loaf of bread cost? We cannot legislate away the laws of the effect of a market anymore than we can legislate away gravity.

• Raymond Kidwell

This shows a lack of understanding of the greater economic realities. Businesses continue to make more money while paying workers less. A typical fast food restaurant spends about 15% of its revenue on labor. It spends a similar amount on product. High volume places spend less. So if you spend \$1 on a cheeseburger about 15 cents went into labor, 12 cents into the actual meat/cheese/bread. Around 50 cents is profit for the business. Of course to simplify it I’m going to ignore marginal utility (you have to cover your basic rent each month), but that’s about how it averages out. Now most of that 15 cents is to pay manager. You could double the pay of minimal wage workers and it would still only bring labor at 25 percent while keeping prices the same.

The problem here is the greed of business owners. Why should someone who inherited some money and buys a McDonalds earn \$200,000 a year for doing nothing? And get taxed at a lower rate than people who work to earn their money? And then proceed to pay workers sub-human wages to maximize his profit? As well the low wages do harm the economy. Likewise wehn adjusted for inflation minimal wage was over \$10 an hour in the 60s and 70s. If you think it’s ok for a husband and wife both to need to work two and three jobs just to pay the bills so that a ceo can make 50 million dollars I guess a reasonable minimal wage doesn’t make sense

• Bill Moore

Hello Raymond Kidwell,

While I don’t agree with your calculations, I agree with your general premise.

I know a lady who works full-time in retail at a large company. Her wage rate is \$11/hour. That would seem to be a two week pay of \$880. However, after numerous tax deductions and deductions for her “benefits” such as health insurance, her take-home pay is about \$500.

Also, each January, her pay is reduced by \$500 for an annual payment into her health insurance, leaving her without a paycheck for the first two weeks.

She has hard time making it on \$1,000/month with car costs, home costs, medical and dental costs (which don’t seem to be covered by the health insurance), and so forth.

She was just informed that her health insurance cost will increase by \$200/month, and is worried about the future.

Additionally, any time she needs medical treatment, she had to pay for it out of pocket, even though she is subjected to the extortion for health insurance from her paycheck.

The future looks grim,
Bill Moore

• Raymond Kidwell

I have worked at many different fast food places, grocery stores etc. and I always try to find out about their business whenever possible. A hamburger patty from mcdonalds costs about 10 cents. So that \$1 cheeseburger cost them about 25 cents. But with other menu items, say a quarter pounder with cheese combo they spent maybe \$1 on that \$9 combo. Their labor cost is below 20% of sales. As well businesses actually get a reduced rate on their utilities. The only major expense is property taxes and mortgage on the building. This varies quite a bit depending on local real estate. The last fast food place I worked at the owners were taking 21% of the gross home, which amounted to just under \$300,000 a year. But also the franchise was taking its cut as well.

About the \$1,000 a month lady, this is a problem I constantly have with people. They tell me “If you work at a minimal wage job you’ll make \$17,000 a year. You have no expenses what are you doing with your money?” I’m like umm I make less than \$10,000. For one they seem to round up on the gross anyway, but they always count before tax income. I count what I actually get on my paycheck as what I make (net). What am I doing with all that money? I’m paying 20% of it in taxes. For some reason people never seem to take that into consideration and act like minimal wage people are bringing home enough to live on.

“Well if you just work 40 hours a week at \$8 an hour. Why that’s \$320. Well that’s about \$1,300 a month. If you don’t many bills you should be sitting nicely.”

Well after deductions that check is just over \$200 if you actually get 40 hours and never get sick, never have to take a day off etc. And then you have gas or bus fare to get to work, you have to spend extra buying uniforms, replacing shoes that wear out every couple of months due to constantly being on your feet, extra laundry detergent to scrub the dirt out from working all day etc. Then you don’t have time to cook dinner or shop around for sales which increases food costs and other living costs.

I tried working two minimal wage jobs and I actually lost money. The expense of working the extra job was more than the paycheck. Especially when they want you to show up and work a couple hours and go home. I don’t understand why people don’t realize that there are expenses associated with having a job and also tax deductions etc.

Even if I get all my federal tax back plus an extra \$100 in EIC, it still doesn’t cover the medicaid, social secruity, fee to cash the check, the local tax, state tax etc. “poor people don’t pay taxes” Seriously?

• dukem1

I’ve often wondered how much of a tax break for everyone would be in order if the minimum wage were \$16 p/h?

• Mack0

Warrant, Warrants, Warrants.

• dd121

Liberal really don’t care about “facts”. They’re only concerned with making their political points.

• Yeah, here’s my scientific study: 100% of blacks belong to a race of people that have never contributed positively to any civilization in the last 6,000 years. How’s that for science?

“Science beeze ray-ciss, yo!”

• stonepillow

But what did they do 6001 years ago that makes you say that?

• That was when they had rocket ships and moon landings, before the White Man came and took all the learning. Whites used it to build their civilizations.

Okay, seriously, I use the 6,000 year figure as a rough estimate of the total amount of time that humans had any kind of civilization. That’s all. Peace.

• stonepillow

Okay I got it. It was a trope. But what we usually call these ancients is “magical negroes.”

• Robert Smith

I’m surprised at you fellas. The pyramids were space ship docking stations and the Eye-talians shot the nose off the Sphinx so no one would know it had black features. Didn’t you guys go to college?

• Jason Lewis

That’s right and we didnt invent anything we stole it all.

• Space aliens wanted to try the Smolensky perovskites as computer memory chips in the early 1990’s, and I had nothing to with any of that, especially not the chemical engineering.

• Our opponents will see this as splitting hairs. We still need an explanation for this discrepancy, regardless of whether it is 20% or 26%.

• Martel

Body/car Searches in black areas serve as much to discourage young negroes from carrying fire-arms as they are about actually discovering contraband. When police officers go to a safe white neighbourhoods to do searches, they likely have intel that contraband is actually present. The purpose of searches differ in white and black neighbourhoods, it partly explains the discrepancy.

• BATF tossed our home in December 2013 with an insultingly vague search warrant. After that, they wrecked my friend’s gun safes, after not meeting him so he could open them for them. He had all the keys and was waiting for them; they went to Denver to get a warrant that day instead, standing him up. If I wanted a firearm, I would just make one from scratch; I have a machine shop in my basement and welding gear in my garage. I was arrested by them that day on an outstanding county warrant that had been issued by mistake. I bonded out three days later, just so I could spend Christmas with my family, and the judge profusely apologized later (January 8, 2014) in court. It wasn’t his mistake; someone in the D.A.’s office screwed up.

• Bill Moore

Hello Michael Christopher Scott,

In November of 2014, my son and I were convicted of having a drug house because a young couple had entered one of the houses we own that was unoccupied and smoked some marijuana cigarettes. The penalty was a \$200,000 fine and ten years in jail.

The trial was continued for thirty days, and my son and I reached an agreement with the prosecutor that the charges would be dropped if we demolished the house.

We demolished the house, and the prosecutor told me that he would inform the judge that the criminal charges should be dropped. I went to the judge a few days later and requested a letter to the effect that the charges were dropped, and the judge complied and sent the letter to me.

My son asked why I wanted such a letter, and I told him that I didn’t want him and me to be surprised five years from now when a felony conviction might show up to haunt us.

I think that White Privilege means that if you are a Caucasian you can be put in prison for ten years for not doing anything wrong. They want to “balance” the prison population.

Bill Moore

• JVisconti

so after years of considering the blah as 3/5 humans, this is kind of a small math problem.

• Another factor that is not being considered: Ferguson Missouri only changed to a predominately African American population in recent years. (Yeah, I used African American, to be nice and PC. Tee Hee!) That means there was a phenomenon known as “White flight” obviously going on. Generally, when a neighborhood changes that fast, it is the residents with more young people and teenagers, that leave first. Usually the older residents leave later. So most of the White population probably consists of older people. That alone would account for much of the disparities in arrest rates.

• LHathaway

In a world where everything means something, how is ‘whites 20% more likely to carry contraband’ not proof Whites are being treated unfairly and are being frisked more often? How is that not the take-away? ESPECIALLY since, if it were the other way around, this very statistic would be heralded as proof of police misconduct and profiling?

Math is racist.

• Martel

Do you think its a coincidence that black students feel their brains hurt after math-class? No!

It has been designed by the white man for that very purpose!

• Cato

” five out of every four women will be raped sometime during her life”

Sarcasm, of course, but it might approach the truth as we move toward the minority-white world our masters plan for us.

• Reynardine

More like:

“Five out of every four women will interpret having their leg felt up as rape.”

or

“Five out of every four women will have rape fantasies from reading 50 Shades of Grey and then feel guilty about it”

• Jason Lewis

” For every dollar spent on food stamps, \$1.79 is put back into the economy” Nancy Pelosi

• Alexandra1973

More proof that guys are generally better at math. And I say this as a female who was in honors math classes.

• Marilyn

Kudos to you!! I was not good at math besides the basics.

• Speedy Steve

Food stamps were to stop the thieving bastards from cleaning out the cash and carry.

• Jason Lewis

• Irish

I couldn’t believe she actually said that with a straight face. But then I realized she really can’t move her face anymore. .

• Alex Dihes

My Talmud

Putin visits the USA. He asks Obama why the Democrat Party supports him so staunchly. Instead of answering, Obama takes Putin to a democrat convention and appeals to the audience, “Starting tomorrow, you I will cut your pay! (applause), will increase the working day! (applause), every tenth will be hanged! (applause and the question: “Should we bring our ropes or the government will provide?”)

• Shane

The calculation actually seems correct to me… To see why, if 50% of whites had contraband and 100% of black had contraband the calculation shown is (100-50)/50 = 1 or 100% more likely. In actuality if you are black the odds are far far higher that just 100% more likely. (If you understand the meaning of the terms…)

The correct calculation is done with odds!

odds = p/(1-p), where (p) is the probability of the event occurring.

Converting 30% and 24% to odds!:

0.3/(1-0.3) = 0.4286

0.24/(1-0.24) = 0.3158

Now comparing to whites we calculate thus:

(0.4286-0.3158)/0.4286 = 0.2632

or!!!

26.3% !!!!!

Just FYI!

(probability is not something like length where the standard calculation would apply because for example probability values only exist in a fixed range)

• MBlanc46

Thanks for the lesson.

• superlloyd

You’re confounding future probability with recorded actuality. We’re not seeking to discover the odds of a potential white stop having contraband as opposed to a potential black stop having contraband. We’re looking at ex post results not ex anti results.

In actuality 30% of whites were stopped and 24% of blacks were stopped with contraband. The black rate is this 24/30 % of the white rate i.e 4/5 or 80%. The black rate is thus 20% less than the white not 26% less.

• Bill Moore

Hello Shane,

Keep in mind that cops plant contraband in cars.

Bill Moore

• LS Wight

Common Core Math!

• “Maff”.

• LS Wight

My aren’t we educated! You know, we’d just be illiterate if it wasn’t for drooling on ourselves while watching TV!

• Speedy Steve

Blacks are 70% of Ferguson’ population. The fact that they make up 80% of arrests only proves that they are worse behaved than WhiTes.

• Jason Lewis

See that’s where we all get confused. After police get up to the arrest number that matches the percentage of the population they need to stop arresting those folks and arrest the other racial groups until they catch up. That way everything is fair.

• Speedy Steve

five out of every four

That’s just a fraction — a compound fraction.

• InAFreeCountry

They don’t use logic or facts, they go by feelings.

• The DoJ hires nigtards with GEDs. Exhibit (A) is our outgoing Attorney General.

• Who Me?

Fifth grade math class in the hood:
“2+2=4. How does that make you FEEL, DeQuan’tavious?”
“It make my haid hurt, Teacher.”
“Correct. Very good. Now moving right along…”

• Light from the East

DOJ controlled by filthy scamers tries to manipulate the number and let those libertard media use it to reach their final goal – anti-white. Why do the government always get controlled by these anti-white people rather than someone just like us?

• De Doc

They never let facts get in the way of spinning a good yarn!

• Mack0

What I meant by warrants is that having a warrant means an immediate search during a traffic stop. The report never provides the data on who has warrants. The crime rate for blacks is higher in Ferguson so it only stands to reason the number of warrants for blacks would be as well.

I find it to be no coincidence that at the end of the report in the section on recommendations the DOJ has several passages on expunging warrants. I suspect the DOJ knew having a warrants results in more searches but intentionally omitted the information.

What is also excluded is the residency status of the people searched. I wouldn’t be surprised if a large number of whites found to have contraband were driving into black neighbors from the suburbs for criminal purposes like buying drugs. Talking to cops I know it’s common practice to pull over young whites driving around in black neighborhoods because they suspect a drug deal has or will occur.

• Michael Robert Ryan

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• Raymond Kidwell

I went to school for teaching but didn’t finish due to maxed out loans. I’m looking to go back. Salary is going to vary depending on state and whether you are elementary or high school, subject etc. If you work in the ghetto standards are low and wages low. If you work in a well funded district you have higher wages but they only take the best teachers. But typically you make around \$30 an hour as a high school teacher. Elementary is around \$25. This is an average hourly rate for a person holding a bachelor degree. Most new teachers quit after their first year and a lot of district have trouble filling all their openings. If the money is so amazing I don’t see why most people quit and go into a different field.

As well new teachers can expect less retirement and less pay than the older ones going into retirement now, which is true in almost every industry. Workers keep taking less pay and CEOs, business owners, presidents etc. become billionaires.

You can go somewhere like california and make \$100k a year but the extra cost of living actually means that a lower life style than \$60k somewhere else. You can go make \$100k a year teaching rich kids if you are the best of the best or something. Most districts you will max out your pay around \$50 or \$60 k a year. That’s the highest you can possibly make as a base salary unless you are doing other work on the side (like coaching football, teaching summer school etc.). Such side work pays minimal wage basically.

Most jobs are going to reach an equilibrium. By that I mean if the pay was ridiculously high then it would be impossible to get a job because people would be lined up for it (or it would highly competitive). If the pay too low, there would be a shortage of qualified applicants (or any at all). There is a trend to depress wages across the board though which is largely funded by republicans like koch brothers etc. so now people make less than they did in the 70s whether its minimal wage jobs or people with a college degree and pensions are a thing of the past.

In some northern states the pensions are a bit ridiculous but they are cutting all that out so new people going into teaching today won’t see that, even though people retiring right now might be getting huge pensions. In southern states, the pensions are more modest.

A teacher’s starting salary is less than \$30k a year for elementary and maybe \$32k or so for high school. By contrast a business management degree you’ll start out making about \$60k a year, even though you put in a lot more hours. The hourly rate is about the same for most jobs with a bachelor degree. If the rate is significantly higher its because the degree is harder to get or the work sucks. I already researched all this.

One example, just within teaching alone math or science teachers in high school may get five or ten thousand dollar bonuses. This is because they have a shortage. A science major can make more money working as a scientist than teaching high school.

I’m sure fox news would like to see teachers make minimal wage and people like George Bush and Obama who never had a real job in their life make 100 million a year just for owning a business, but at some point reason has to set in. What happened to the America of the 1950s or even 1970s where good middle class jobs existed? I don’t even understand why people work for a living anymore since everything is so pro-business.

• Bill Moore

Hello Raymond Kidwell,

Excellent post. Thank you for that.

I knew a beautiful Caucasian woman whose ambition was to be a teacher. She went through the education, got a job teaching seventh grade, and quit after two years.

The abuse by the Africans in the classroom, the dangerousness of exiting the school at the end of the day with Africans hanging around, and the difficulty of trying to teach the students who actually had an interest in learning in an environment dominated by ignorant, arrogant Africans became too much for her.

She got a job in a large company as a librarian.

Bill Moore

• Raymond Kidwell

It all depends on the individual personality. Some people prefer rich schools, some prefer poor schools. With rich schools you have smart kids but parents who constantly harass you if their kid got a B and talk down to you etc. Poor schools you have dumb kids but seldom bothered by parents. Some people take to it better than others. But they often throw new teachers into some of the most stressful positions, then when everybody quits they cry about a teacher shortage. Meanwhile they give their fat over paid tenured teachers easy jobs. Most people quit in the first year because it wasn’t what they expected and it seems to be too much work for the low pay. Usually a college grad can make more money elsewhere.

For someone like me though who if flipping burgers or washing dishes for a living teaching is like a dream job and the pay is really good. It’s all relative.

You do know that the Amish have a high demand for teachers. Due to their religion they don’t go to college, but they need college educated teachers to teach at their Amish schools because you have to be a certified teacher legally.

Personally my ideal classroom would be rednecks. Just because they are typically somewhat well behaved and the parents leave you alone. If you deal with rich white people they will call teachers on the phone non-stop, always want to know how the student is doing, talk to the teacher like he’s inferior to them, threaten people, argue, demand their child get an A “or else” etc. it takes a certain personality to deal with such people and I can’t do it. I dealt with one teacher at a private school who wouldn’t shut up about how superior her students were and how superior everything was. I think she belongs at an Amren convention or something. Then she kept insulting me saying my e-mails were misspelled when they weren’t or that my clothes weren’t good enough etc. I would take the ignorant and arougant ghettoites over that. They would be busy skipping school half the time anyway.

• Roninf9

Thirty percent of whites and 24 percent of blacks have contraband

Ferguson is 80% black. What kind of young white person would be driving through that ghetto? What kind of young white person would be doing something in Ferguson that would warrant a traffic stop and a vehicle search? Also what are the raw numbers. If ten whites get stopped that means a whopping 3 had contraband. Not exactly an indictment of the FPD or the White Race.

• Budd Smith

Blacks are less likely than whites to have contraband? That is odd. Maybe most of the +100 IQ Whites left, leaving behind a low IQ White population. But I’d bet that’s not the case. Likely most are older White homeowners who couldn’t afford to walk away from their homes after housing prices tanked due to blacks moving in. I’ll bet the DOJ used “black math” to come up with that statistic. Maybe guns and knives are counted as something besides contraband.

• Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

Black math like black English.

• Jacobite2

Old story. Remember when Nixon was taped asking if the Bureau of Labor Statistics wasn’t “where all those Jews are?” Figures don’t lie, but liars figure.

• Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

Blacks cannot even speak proper English let alone do math. I was trying to cross the road the other day and a fat black kid stopped me and I just could not understand what he was saying. The only thing I understood was donation and \$20. I politely declined and I crossed the road.

• Bill Moore

Hello,

And you didn’t get spit on or yelled at or stabbed or hit?

It was your lucky day!

Bill Moore

• 4teepee

I think I may be able to clarify the situation somewhat. Whites — who usually have more money than blacks and can more afford drugs — go to black areas to buy them. This can be quite dangerous and get one killed when dealing with the drug dealers. I used to live in Las Vegas, Nevada. As Hunter S. Thompson said in his book Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, North Las Vegas (a black area) is where one goes to get drugs, with no connections.

• 4teepee

I think I may be able to clarify the situation somewhat. Whites — who usually have more money than blacks and can more afford drugs — go to black areas to buy them. This can be quite dangerous and get one killed when dealing with the drug dealers. I used to live in Las Vegas, Nevada. As Hunter S. Thompson said in his book “Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas,” North Las Vegas (a black area) is where one goes to get drugs, with no connections.