Nearly 40% of Likely Republican Caucus-Goers Consider Islam Inherently Violent

Margaret Talev, Bloomberg, February 4, 2015

Two out of five Republicans likely to participate in Iowa’s presidential caucuses say they are inclined to view Islam as an inherently violent religion that inspires brutality by its followers, according to a new Bloomberg Politics/Des Moines Register Iowa Poll.

Twice as many Democrats–along with a majority of Republicans–say they view the world’s second largest religion as inherently peaceful, the poll found.

The divisions, coming after the Charlie Hebdo killings in France and and the Islamic State’s beheadings of several Western prisoners, may shape the way White House hopefuls from both parties address Islamic militancy, both in terms of fighting threats abroad and balancing freedom of religion and expression with security concerns.

In the poll, conducted Jan. 26-29, 402 likely Republican caucus-goers and 401 likely Democratic caucus-goers were asked: “When it comes to the Islamic faith, which of the following is closer to your view?” They were given two choices: “Islam is an inherently violent religion, which leads its followers to violent acts” and “Islam is an inherently peaceful religion, but there are some who twist its teachings to justify violence.”

Fifty-three percent of likely Republican caucus participants and 81 percent of likely Democratic caucus participants said they believe Islam is inherently peaceful. Only 13 percent of likely Democratic caucus participants said they view Islam as inherently violent, compared with 39 percent of likely Republican caucus-goers. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.9 percentage points.

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  • Brady

    The issue is not whether Islam is violent or peaceful. It’s that it seeks the subjuation and destruction of all things non-Islamic. I’m not OK with that regardless of the means.

  • 53% of Republican likely caucusers and 81% of Democrats ibid say they believe Islam is inherently peaceful.

    I’d rip both parties a new one if I didn’t mentally cross over the event horizon into the dark enlightenment last summer.

    • Sick of it

      We’ll make an archaeo-futurist of you yet.

      • Meh? I crossed over into the DE because I want to see a space elevator built and functioning before I die.

        • Sick of it

          Man, you’re thinking small. Considering the time you have left in this world, we could do much much more. We could make astounding technological advancements in just ten years without certain people in the way.

          • Seriously, I do think that democratic republicanism has retarded a lot of quality positive economic growth (and by “economic growth,” I don’t mean fresh over the border jungle Indios flooding into Wal-Martinez), and also a lot of quality positive scientific progress.

            I read something of a half-serious essay several months ago, not written by anyone on our side of the event horizon, mind you. But his thesis was that “new class” bureaucratic parasitism since the end of WWII has cost us at least a half percent of GDP growth per year, and but for it, we’d have a $33 trillion GDP right now. Which means we’d have Social Security that would be living up to its name, secure, Medicare would be secure, there would be no credible discussion of needing to reform them, we’d have real universal health care, the space program would be much farther along.

          • We’d have cities on the moon by now.

      • Julius Caesar

        I’ve never been able to fully back the idea of Archeofuturism because I consider myself a Luddite. The book was great nonetheless.
        Make my enlightenment dark, please!

  • WR_the_realist

    There are plenty of peaceful Muslims. But they seem to be that way despite, not because of, their religion.

    • meanqueen

      I don’t consider them peaceful if they’re not doing the beheadings themselves but merely approve of the ones who are. The number of Muslims who actively condemn heinous criminality is bound to be very small. Anyway, when your numbers are over a billion, even a tiny fraction of crazies translates into trouble for the whole world. I really don’t give a rat’s ass if there are peaceful Muslims. They are ALL suspect.

  • mike j

    From the story: “There are four demographic groups in which the dominant opinion is that
    Islam is inherently violent: those who describe themselves as very
    conservative (62 percent), seniors (53 percent), those who live in rural
    areas (52 percent), and born-again Christians (51 percent),” said J.
    Ann Selzer, president of West Des Moines-based Selzer & Co., which
    conducted the poll. “Those are the constituencies that drive up the
    overall percentage among likely Republican caucus-goers.”

    On the other hand, those who believe that Islam is a religion of peace belong to one demographic group, morons who’ve never learned any history.

  • David Ashton

    The Religion of Peace = the Religion of SUBMISSION to Allah, his Prophet (PBUH) and whichever clerics are expounding the text. This is the point to get across, even though many Muslim families are themselves just want to live a quiet life.

    • Speedy Steve

      You don’t have to scratch the surface very much to find out how they really feel. Ask them about Israel.

      • Albert

        Or ask for sausage on your pizza. Or bacon with your sandwich. They’re so messed up, they almost don’t need a bomb to explode.

      • David Ashton

        Well, they might have something to complain about there.

        • stewball

          HA!!!!!

    • Garrett Brown

      They may want to live in peace but they support what their warriors do 100%. And rightfully so, that’s just being a good Muslim.

      • Sick of it

        At least they support their own people instead of trying to destroy them on behalf of foreign ones. That’s perfectly normal.

        • Anna Tree

          They support Muslims who harm outsiders: other cults from islam, non-muslims but also anybody contradicting the koran, and this is not hard.
          I don’t think they support their own people at all.
          The enemy of your enemy is NOT always your friend, Sick Of It…

          • Sick of it

            When have I ever claimed anything of the sort? It’s just a shame that those people cling to their crazy religion while ours are all too happy to dismiss their own. How they marry their own kind and we do the opposite.

          • Anna Tree

            Sorry I misunderstood you then.
            Yes we need a white genophil religion. It needs to be like us civilized but stronger than Christianity in a few issues, for example the family values need to be reasserted.

  • Frank_DeScushin

    “Twice as many Democrats–along with a majority of Republicans–say they view the world’s second largest religion as inherently peaceful.”

    Sounds like the collective brainwashing is working.

    • TheMaskedUnit

      120% of democrats … the Chicago way.

  • MekongDelta69

    Twice as many Democrats–along with a majority of Republicans–say they view the world’s second largest religion as inherently peaceful

    And the difference between the two parties, IS?…

  • disqus_Xz3UA6obwj

    Arabs and blacks would be every bit as violent no matter what flavor of religious dogma they cling to. Most blacks in America would identify as Christian, you wouldn’t blame Christianity on their behavior would you? As a group, Arabs have serious behavioral issues.

    • mike j

      Perhaps, but their adherence to a religion that encourages violence doesn’t help matters any.

  • Richard Roelofsen

    The question is, do they consider the foreign policy of the neocon Bush/Obama administration inherently violent too? If not, then we’ll have a risk of having a Brownback type of warmonger in the White House, who will march into war with Iran on the orders of Tel Aviv.
    US foreign policy has been inherently violent in the Middle East whether in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Kurdistan, Libya the list goes on and on. I see no positive in a massive influx of middle easterners into the West, but I see nothing positive either in the aggressive US/NATO/EU foreign policy that kills, maims and destroys and then wonders why people hate us. I don’t want us to meddle into their affairs any more than I want them meddling into ours.

    • Bryce Armstrong

      Approximately 0.00001% of all people on the right consider Bush/Obama’s appeasement and groveling policy’s violent.

  • Tarczan

    We always here that Islam is peaceful, but it is never explained. There are passages in the texts that call for peace and love, etc. But by the theory of abbrogation(sp?) they are superseded by the later, more violent verses.

  • dd121

    40%? Is that all?

    • HE2

      40%? Is that all?
      Exactly what I thought too, dd.
      My parents are from Iowa. They both know, but no one polled them.

      • dd121

        I suspect that most “polls” and “statistics” from liberals are simply pulled out of the air to confirm their biases. I certainly don’t take anything Obama says at face value.

  • TheMaskedUnit

    Denying the peace and benevolence of islam is hazardous to your health … 90% of democrats and republicans know this.

  • Sick of it

    Take that poll again in a more Southern venue. See the massive change in results.

  • Zimriel

    It doesn’t matter whether 99% of Republicans or 3.14% of Republicans think that there is violence in Islam. All that matters is what the Qur’an says and what the Arab Prophet taught.

    I could quote chapter and verse from the Qur’an here for hours, but I’d be delivering a khutba to the talibs. You already know. You probably also know about the doctrines of naskh which say later verses abrogate the early ones, and you probably know the later verses tend to be more violent. (Sura 9 especially. Also sura 48.)

    I could cite the hadith of the keys to the Paradise being swords, but I’m sure you’ve heard that one too. Or the Paradise being under the shade of swords.

    If 60% of Republicans don’t see that, then 60% of Republicans are useless and blind.

    • disqus_Xz3UA6obwj

      I think your negative view of theists could be a bit broader. Do you not know what the Christians used to do?

      “Heroism did not excite the respect of our fathers. The man who would not recant was not forgiven. They screwed the thumbscrews down to the last pang, and then threw their victim into some dungeon, where, in the throbbing silence and darkness, he might suffer the agonies of the fabled damned. This was done in the name of love—in the name of mercy, in the name of Christ.

      I saw, too, what they called the Collar of Torture. Imagine a circle of iron, and on the inside a hundred points almost as sharp as needles. This argument was fastened about the throat of the sufferer. Then he could not walk, nor sit down, nor stir without the neck being punctured, by these points. In a little while the throat would begin to swell, and suffocation would end the agonies of that man. This man, it may be, had committed the crime of saying, with tears upon his cheeks, ‘I do not believe that God, the father of us all, will damn to eternal perdition any of the children of men.’

      I saw another instrument, called the Scavenger’s Daughter. Think of a pair of shears with handles, not only where they now are, but at the points as well, and just above the pivot that unites the blades, a circle of iron. In the upper handles the hands would be placed; in the lower, the feet; and through the iron ring, at the centre, the head of the victim would be forced. In this condition, he would be thrown prone upon the earth, and the strain upon the muscles produced such agony that insanity would in pity end his pain.

      I saw the Rack. This was a box like the bed of a wagon, with a windlass at each end, with levers, and ratchets to prevent slipping; over each windlass went chains; some were fastened to the ankles of the sufferer; others to his wrists. And then priests, clergymen, divines, saints, began turning these windlasses, and kept turning, until the ankles, the knees, the hips, the shoulders, the elbows, the wrists of the victim were all dislocated, and the sufferer was wet with the sweat of agony. And they had standing by a physician to feel his pulse. What for? To save his life? Yes. In mercy? No; simply that they might rack him once again.

      This was done, remember, in the name of civilization; in the name of law and order; in the name of mercy; in the name of religion; in the name of Christ.”
      ― Robert G. Ingersoll, The Liberty of Man, Woman and Child

      • A reproduction of the Scavenger’s Daughter will be my next project. I finished my cat-o-nines. The S.D. must have been closed on joints. I can do better, using the compound leverage of modern bolt-cutters, but with two sets of handles.

      • mike j

        Yes, we all know that, back in the 16th and 17th centuries, various Christian sects tortured heretics. There was no need to be so long-winded about it. The point is that we Westerners stopped doing that sort of thing a couple of centuries ago, but Muslims continue to behead people slowly with knives, and put the video on Youtube.

      • Zimriel

        Congratulations on entirely missing my point.

        Christianity does not MANDATE these acts. The Prophet did, and the Qur’an does.

      • Anna Tree

        Not only Christianity doesn’t mandate those acts while islam does,
        but also

        Jesus never killed, enslaved or raped anybody while on the contrary “prophet” mohamed did all these and more, and because he is the uswa hasana (the model of conduct of excellence), the al insan al
        kamil (the perfect human), that is THE best man ever, THE guide to
        follow for all mankind, all time and all places (koran 68:4, 33:21,
        60:4, 60:6), whatever he did is islamic and halal, and jihad or child bride or slavery cannot be outlawed.

  • John Smith

    The rest are RINOs.

    • Zimriel

      Math tells me that if those who hold a given opinion can muster only 40%, it’s the 40% who are the RINOs. The Bush and Saud families speak for the majority of Republicans.

  • LHathaway

    I consider them to be overwhelmingly not white.

  • Okay, Iowa voters, here ya go:

    How many Muslims do you encounter on a daily basis?
    A) I’m around them all of the time
    B) I’m a pathological liar, so I’ll say a lot
    C) None that I know of
    D) There are Muslims in Iowa!?

    How many verses from the Quran can you cite?
    A) Many verses
    B) Only the ones that rhyme
    C) None
    D) What’s a Quran?

    How many black and other non-White people do you encounter on a daily basis?
    A) My neighborhood is full of them
    B) A few here, a few there
    C) We drive past them all the time
    D) This is Iowa, we don’t have black and brown people

  • Albert

    Many apologists like to point out that there are nuts in other religions as well. Emm, i don’t see many Protestant suicide bombers taking out embassies. Not many Roman Catholics hijacking jetliners. Not many Amish folk lopping off heads or even burning brides. Sorry, but this sorry excuse just doesn’t hold up to reason.

  • They’re wonderfully “peaceful” now, burning a captured Jordanian pilot alive. He had a wife and a young daughter. The infantry rarely take each other as prisoners, but a captured pilot is a little different. With the infantry, everything is happening too fast, but one gets to watch a pilot who has bailed out come down. Saudi Arabia beheaded a woman last year for “witchcraft”. The poor gal was probably just crazy, but she hadn’t hurt anyone. They also jail poets and journalists, whenever they aren’t whacking the heads off those, either. They gang-rape young girls in Britain, decided Cronulla Beach in Australia was “theirs”, and constantly demand – through organizations like the ironically named “CAIR” to be pampered and babied in our countries.

    I am sick to death of Islam. I do not want – and will not accept – “peace” from any of them. Leave. Now.

    • HE2

      One thousand up votes, MCS.
      You hit the proverbial nail on the head.
      Apparently, Iowans have not read the Quran and the verses related to treatment of non-muzzie citizens in conquered lands.
      What is particularly galling is the term “infidel” broadly applies to atheists as well as any being who adheres to another spiritual path, though that person may believe in the Judaic or Christian God. Not good enough. Muslim or die.

      • The difference between an atheist and an agnostic is that the atheist does not believe in such a thing as a god, while the agnostic accepts the idea, but does not understand the nature of God, and understands that he or she can not pretend to do so. In my own case, I believe it would be monstrously arrogant of me to try. At the last call, when we are each Judged, I might be “light grey”, and receive a passing grade. I don’t think it matters very much.

        For me, life was once hell, but has since become paradise. A seemingly nice young lady told me conflicting stories while I was alone on the footpath the other day. It was amusing, and I was very pleasant. My mustache currently makes me look like a middle-aged cowboy, but I noticed she had been dropped off to intercept me via Dublin, while her (black) partner didn’t know his mark as I passed him on foot on Academy and could never have caught me marching. Ariadne was learning to play piano at the neighbor’s house. I knew it was a set-up when I left the house and got downhill early, begging a ride, but I wanted to see who they were, just so I could give an accurate description to the cops. I talked with her on the path and gave her proper directions toward the Walgreens store she asked about. I put up a hard pace, especially marching alone, and she later ran to ask me the same questions, as if to slow me down. I noticed that she ran back that way toward Dublin as I crossed the stream using the erosion-control boulders as stepping stones, though it was not the directions I gave her.

        I think I can positively ID some scammers here. If God didn’t make me what I really am, deep down inside, who did?

        • The difference between an atheist and an agnostic is that the atheist does not believe in such a thing as a god, while the agnostic accepts the idea, but does not understand the nature of God, and understands that he or she can not pretend to do so.

          Not entirely true. The difference between the two is a matter of degrees and simple semantics. One takes a hard approach to the unprovable teachings of organized religion, while the other still tries to juggle the deceptions, but still accept that there really is no proof for or against the idea. Then again, you can’t prove or deny something that isn’t provable in a strictly “agnostic” way of thinking, so I could be the reincarnation of Jesus since it can’t be proven that I’m not. Both agree that there is no proof to say a god or gods definitely exist.

          Who made you? Your parents did. Who made them. Their parents did… and their parents made them… and their parents made them, ad infinitum. I highly doubt you’d deny this cycle, and even the most hardcore atheist wouldn’t deny that this cycle exists. They just don’t pretend to be able to comprehend the beginning of the cycle, if there even is one. Essentially, our ancestors are our gods.

          If there really is some omnipotent singularity known as God who made you in his image, then what is your God once you accept the undeniable proof of evolution? Was God a monkey? Was God a fish? Was God an amoeba or some kind of bacteria? Maybe we haven’t ascended far enough in the evolutional process or gained even a fraction of the knowledge needed to even begin to comprehend it all. Maybe God, or the concept of a god or gods, evolves at a rate proportional to our own evolution and metamorphosis, which means you’d never really find the meaning of it all. Kind of like trying to catch the speed of light. It really is hard enough to imagine our ancestors from 200 generations ago comprehending the kind of stuff we do and say today. Now imagine the gap in understanding in 1,000 generations or 10,000 generations. Okay, now imagine that gap times infinity.

          • HE2

            One takes a hard approach to the unprovable teachings of organized
            religion, while the other still tries to juggle the deceptions, but still accept that there really is no proof for or against the idea.

            Thanks, Celestial, well stated.

        • HE2

          MCS, I am an atheist. Not a superstitious bone in me body.
          Not a fundy, however. I say, to each his own.
          I admit to an abhorrence of the homicidal cult of islam, do not appreciate proselytizing by anyone of any path.
          We had aggressively proselytizing Pentecostals in my rural hometown.
          Out of curiosity, attended a service with one of the Pentecostal girls who was incessantly hyping me all the time. What an experience. Though the participants were all White, they may as well have been loud, exhibitionist blacks.

      • meanqueen

        They kill you even after you convert to Islam. It’s a no win situation!

      • Tully

        What you thought being a atheist or materialist worshiping modernist(basically a animist of sorts) would get you out of trouble with Muslims, it doesn’t work that way.

        In their book you’re guilty of shirk at the very least so off with your noggin.

        • HE2

          No, Mr/Ms Tully, am aware that being an atheist, animist, etc., does not let you off the muzzie hook.
          Full submission is required OR ELSE.
          Even then, there is no guarantee you will keep your head.

    • newscomments70

      I notice Muslims in various Canadian cities. There are some polite ones, non-practicing, as well as attractive women. On one trip, I started talkng with a beautiful Muslim girl on the Vancouver tram. I marvelled at how nice she was, but unfortunately, with this comes the radicals who bomb and mutiliate. A Muslim bomb will eventually explode in this tram. Liberals scream that nice Muslims exist. That maybe true, but the bad always comes with the good. You can’t have one with out the other.

  • Anna Tree

    Worth every minute but I think some important times
    3:57 The Roman Empire wasn’t destroyed by the Germans
    8:52 A century later, islam has brutally assaulted Europe.
    [9:31 Even some race realism here, I hope one day Mr. Warner meets Mr. Taylor. More events will become clear to him.]
    11:50 islamic progression to show how the Golden Years of islam were not peaceful
    (the animation starts at 12:13)
    15:11 Headlines from each centuries
    20:30 Establishment revisionism
    [a bit more race realism at 20:40]
    23:57 Economic warfare
    26:34 Slavery (including Venetian Jewish slavery of Christians)
    27:47 The Crusades
    30:00 Moral equivalence? No apology!
    (the animation starts at 30:57 Spain Golden Age or reign of terror? First order of slaves: 3000 blond virgins)
    (animation for the Bagdad Golden Age starts at 32:45 Again battles or Golden Age? More shariah, more sex slavery, less science)
    35:50 Modern Times 19’000 jihadi attacks since 9.11 [today over 25’000]
    As is reading his articles on his site during the years.
    39:55 Brothers in the religion of Abraham
    “Islam is 91% violence, 9% peace.” (computerized from the islamic scriptures)
    “The data doesn’t support the theory.”
    41:00 So why the violence? Charts show it is in the islamic scriptures.
    (41:27 shows how Turkey went from Christian to Muslim and 41:36 how many millions of Christians, Buddhists, Hindus and Africans were killed at times when the world population was a few hundreds millions only)
    42:25 Because of traumatized minds: disbelief, fear, guilt, humiliation, anger, powerlessness: “Violent molestation can cause denial.”.
    While they the abusers are denying the abuse, arrogant and want to dominate. But cry to be the victims too!
    Mr. Bill Warner wants us to know history so we can face our fears and fight back.