What If Black America Were a Country?

Theodore Johnson, The Atlantic, October 14, 2014

In a recent debate with a CNN contributor, the conservative radio talk-show host Larry Elder declared that “if black America were a country, it would be the 15th-wealthiest country in the world.” His math proved incorrect, and his invocation of “black America” was followed by a refutation of the concept by a fellow black conservative. {snip}

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This decades-old conversation invites a thought experiment: If black America were a nation-state, how would it stack up against other countries? How would it fare on standard measures of national power and weakness?

Naturally, this exercise presumes a monolithic black America, but this is a standard hazard when comparing large entities using statistical medians and per-capita rates. {snip}

In the infographics below, two pictures emerge. The first is of a strong nation with considerable manpower and purchasing power. The second is of a troubled, fragile state suffering from socioeconomic disparities and structural subjugation in ways that degrade life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness (on some measures, black America resembles countries like Brazil, China, and Russia—emerging powers that are struggling with stark economic inequality). {snip}

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  • And even these statistics and figures are somewhat legerdemain, because black Americans benefit by being among white people and benefiting from white people’s pathological altruism.

    If black America was a country…we don’t need to play our hunches. Just choose almost any country in western Africa.

    • Bryce Armstrong

      Not to mention the figures for the United States suffer from being among “Black America”.

      • Nancy

        My thoughts exactly. It would be far more accurate (and illustrative) to compare Black America with White America, as our stats are negatively affected by having Negroes in our midst.

        Someone on Amren (or maybe Paul Kersey’s site, I don’t remember) months ago listed the education statistics (an average of test scores, graduation rates, etc.) and ranked us against other countries. What I found really interesting was how the stats were broken down by race: Caucasian Americans, American Negroes, Asian-Americans, “Hispanic”-Americans…and then ranked these “diverse” American ethnicities to see how they compare to other nations.

        When broken down in this way, American whites were in the top three groups in the world (I believe Japanese AND Japanese Americans both beat us). It also showed that the other American ethnic groups did better HERE than their “country of origin”: American Hispanics did better than those living south of the border, American Asians did better than Chinese, Japanese, etc.. Even American Negroes did better than Negroes in Africa.

        Goes to show how American “minorities” benefit from being around white Americans.

        Of course, there’s ZERO benefit for US having them here. (Except maybe the Asians.) The others just drag us down.

        • Bryce Armstrong

          The only people who have benefited this country are Whites. Asians and Hispanics haven’t really contributed anything. Blacks, Indians, Mooslems and Homos have only detracted from us.

    • Publius Pompilius Quietus

      There is an example of a former American territory that is currently governed and populated by blacks: Liberia. It doesn’t differ greatly from other Africans states in its rancor, corruption, or delinquency, nor would a Black USA.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        Exactly. Liberia is mostly populated by the descendants of former slaves, from Maryland and Delaware, sent back to Africa after The Emancipation Proclamation. Liberia doesn’t resemble Maryland and Delaware whatsoever. Liberia resembles other African countries in all respects. Maryland and Delaware are two of our wealthiest states. Comparing the Baltimore that Whites have created with Monrovia, Liberia, shows just what the Negro race creates when left to their own devices.

        • bilderbuster

          As does Haiti.

          • Ed

            Both Haiti and Liberia are actually worse off than many African countries. Liberia is the 4th poorest in the world, with a GDP of about $2 billion.

          • Ed

            Both Haiti and Liberia are actually worse off than many African countries. Liberia is the 4th poorest in the world, with a GDP of about $2 billion.

          • bilderbuster

            That’s true. But that’s like saying Detroit is worse than Baltimore.
            I think we can agree that we’re both splitting hairs here 🙂

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Very true. Negroes have wrecked both cities. Baltimore is still distinctly nicer, but only because Negroes have not had a stranglehold on Baltimore as long, as the Negro population is still a little smaller than Detroit. As recent as the 90’s, Baltimore was still just over half Negro, and had some very nice neighborhoods still. Highlandtown, on the east side, was a nice Polish neighborhood with low crime and nicely maintained row houses. From what I am told, Highlandtown is now Hispanic.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            A far cry from Delmarva, where their ancestors were fortunate to be slaves. A few Negroes, such as H. K. Edgerton, are actually smart enough to understand that their forebears were fortunate to have been slaves in the American Southland. Negroes with as much sense and decency as H. K., though, are few and far between. Logic is an elusive to non-existent concept in the Negro mind.

        • Screamin_Ruffed_Grouse

          But comparing the Baltimore that blacks have fashioned since they became its majority to Monrovia is a far more apt comparison.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Yes it is. This is why, in the days before integration was forced upon the South, Maryland Blacks went to separate schools, and were segregated the same as in all of Dixie. Baltimore was a very pleasant city back in those fine old days.

    • Stan D Mute

      You may take the negro out of Africa, but absolutely nothing will ever get the Africa out of the negro.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        Exactly. Look at what they have done to Detroit. Other depressed and aging industrial cities, such as Pittsburgh, where Whites are the majority, are still safe and decently liveable. West Virginia has the lowest income of all 50 states. It also has the lowest violent crime rate. Wheeling is also an aging factory town, but has a very low violent crime rate. One can walk in downtown Wheeling in safety at almost any hour of the day or night. Blacks are far more violent than Whites. Plain and simple. We are violent in war time, when defending our families or our way of life, or when acting in self defense. Blacks are just violent whenever the urge hits.

        • hastings88

          And the urge hits them often.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Yes it does. Self discipline and restraint are foreign concepts to the Negro. Whites usually restrain ourselves when we feel liking kicking someone’s tail. We pause, due to our moral compass. Most Negroes do not have a moral compass. The pre-frontal cortex of the human brain is the place where our moral compass is governed. In a sensible society, research would be done on differences in pre-frontal cortex development between the different races of humans. There is no doubt in my mind that lack of pre-frontal cortex development in the Negro brain is the primary reason for their sociopathy. If their brains are simply less developed than ours, there is no reason for them not to be segregated.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      Exactly. These stats are highly skewed. Black America comparing with Russia, or even Iraq is an absolute joke. Those comparisons are only possible because these stats are not measuring any of the money being pumped into Black America that is actually non-Negro tax dollars, and none of the Leftist enabling is being measured. Take away White money and preferential treatment proferred upon them by the White Liberals elites who run this country, and Black America would resemble Liberia or Sierra Leone, not Iraq, or especially Russia. None of Sub-Saharan Africa even resembles the Arabic North Africa countries, let alone Russia. As far as AIDS/HIV/homicide, Black America resembles Sub-Saharan Africa closely. The higher income of Black America reveals just how much money the Leftist establishment is stealing from Whites, under the guise of taxation, and handing to Black America with little to no effort on their part to earn these handouts.

      • LHathaway

        Actually, the murder rate in Russia is twice as high as the US murder rate.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          Twice as high as our overall murder rate is high for Europe, but nothing compared to the homicide rate in Gary, East St. Louis, Flint, Camden, Benton Harbor, or any of the other Africa in our Midst cities here. I also wonder who is committing this crime in Russia. If I were a gambler, my bets would be on Islamists.

          • LHathaway

            More interesting might be to compare the rate or murder in africa ( as a whole or specific countries) with that of Russia. Russia had a huge drain of white ‘brides’ moving out of Russia a decade ago or so. This is unusual, for it looks like to me as if almost all immigration into the US for several decades has been single men of color. Can’t let that need for affirmative action go to waste.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Care to post some of these stats for the rest of us to peruse?? I suspect that these Russian brides have chosen to settle in England, Germany, or maybe Scandinavia over our Negro/Hispanic infested poop box over here across the pond. As far as that murder rate in Russia, I’d like to see where this crime is concentrated. Unless this is counting deaths in the line of battle in the current fracas with Ukraine, I suspect a concentration of crime in cities overrun with Islamists from some of those Islamist Asiatic former SSR’s.

          • stonepillow

            Naw. Russians just like to shoot each other.

      • Gary John 金白龍

        But why don’t White Liberals admit this or recognize this?

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          Same reason they don’t care about Meth Labs and Heroin addiction in the rural Midwest. Working Whites will not vote for Obongo or Hillary the Negro loving FemiNazi. It is all about garnering votes with both Dems and Republicans. Working Whites need a third party that represents our interests. Merlin Miller/American Freedom Party in 2016!!

      • proud white

        great post!

    • TruthBeTold

      Yes, the numbers are artificially inflated.

      It would be informative to separate only historically black nations with historically black majorities.

      The numbers would be far more dramatic.

    • LexiconD1

      Look at what Robert Mugabe did to Zimbabwe. It was a beautiful run nation, known to the world as the bread basket of Africa. Now they are eating each other, and it’s one of the poorest nations in the world.

      That is what would become of Black America.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        Beautifully run farms owned and created by the English and Dutch primarily, with a smattering of other Europeans. Negroes do not know how to farm. Just look at the mess they made of sharecropping in Dixie after The Emancipation Proclamation. Too lazy and stupid to run successful farms, so they headed North to make the safety net in the Northern states their trampoline.

    • JackKrak

      Yep. Any stat that makes them look even kinda sorta good or normal is the result of them being around us. If they were truly on their own, it would take about 24 hours to regress to their African mean.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        Exactly. Any time two or more of them are together in a room, Africa in our Midst materializes.

    • Bantu_Education

      Is Haiti in W.Africa..?

  • Zolicon

    “What If Black America Were a Country?”
    Then America would be Africa.

    • Tim_in_Indiana

      Kinshasa in our midst.

      • Zolicon

        Something like that.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        Exactly. Anyplace Negroes are the majority is scary and violent. Their rural settlements in the South look like something straight out of Africa. Cars overturned in yards, junk everywhere, youth aimlessly traipsing down the middle of the street. These settlements are all Black, though, and they leave the Whites alone.

        • Mary

          There are counties in rural Alabama that are around 80% black.
          Most of the few remaining Whites are elderly. These are utterly depressing places. There is one county in particular where my great-great-great grandfather owned a plantation in the 19th century, that
          now ranks as the poorest county in the state. No small accomplishment in Alabama. It was the wealthiest county in the state at one time due to the heavy cotton production. Now it’s mainly African blight.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            I feel bad for these elderly Whites. It sounds like their kids have headed for Whiter pastures. Are these elderly Whites living in White communities? I’ve never been in Alabama, but have spent some time in the rural areas of the Virginia Tidewater. There, at least, you have White settlements and Black settlements in the rural areas. You see Blacks when going shopping in the larger towns, and Blacks and Whites may work together, but Blacks and Whites pretty much keep to themselves socially, and do not live near each other. Used to spend a fair amount of time down there back in the eighties. Everyone was against integration, felt it had been forced on them by “Yankees” from up in New York and Philadelphia. Haven’t been down there in recent years, but I hope things haven’t changed too much. Never once saw a bi-racial couple down there. The older folks referred to Blacks as “Negrahs” when being polite, other more spicy terms when teed off.

    • Publius Pompilius Quietus

      Rather, America would be a continental Detroit.

      • TruthBeTold

        We don’t have to run thought experiments. We have real world examples.

        Haiti, Somalia, Congo, Liberia, Zimbabwe, Uganda, et. al.

  • DaveMed

    I suggest that we designate one of the states as the “Black State”, let the inhabitants do what they do best, and use that as a predictive model.

    Preferably a coastal state.

    • Pathfinder75

      They can have New Jersey.

      • IstvanIN

        No!

        • paul marchand

          ^ ^ ^ must be from Jersey.

        • Pathfinder75

          If not New Jersey,then where? Please keep in mind my assumption that shipping them all back to Africa–the MOST desirable option–is (currently) politically impractical,to say the least.

          • IstvanIN

            Alabama.

          • Sick of it

            They’re more likely to take Jersey, as the whites generally won’t fight back, than Alabama…where the whites will mow them down.

          • hastings88

            It would be a hassle for white Alabamans, but we could give those displaced people the best land (for free) vacated by blacks everywhere else in the country. A good deal for everyone.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            That depends. Italians are not usually fans of Blacks. LaCosa Nostra used to keep them out of certain towns entirely. Blacks dealing drugs in certain neighborhoods would be swiftly taken out. One White organization Blacks have always been afraid of is The Italian Mafia.

          • Sick of it

            I got the feeling from talking to a former resident that New Jersey has quite a few blacks these days. They didn’t say, being anti-racist, but it was obvious.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Give them South Africa, and offer South African Whites asylum in America. Or, give them all of Southeastern Michigan, with the rest of Michigan becoming a separate state.

          • mikekingjr

            Wonder if African Whites would want to leave.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            Probably not. See, SA Whites, especially Boers feel that SA is their native land. Only at the very last (and probably too late) resort.

          • mikekingjr

            I hope those Afrikaners Fight like Hell. Inspiration for wussy Whites in USA.

          • Luca

            Puerto Rico

          • The bottom of the ocean. Plenty of room there, and no hateful, racist whites.

          • IstvanIN

            How about Haiti or the US Virgin Islands? PR’s don’t want them.

    • benvad

      No they must get land in Africa. If gladly trade them for African whites.

      • Stan D Mute

        Been there and done that. They refused to go. They preferred the risk of being returned to slavery here (pre-Civil War) than go to Liberia.

        • benvad

          Then by force and container ships

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      I used to think a Southern state, such as Mississippi, should be given to the Blacks. Not anymore. Let them have New Jersey, or a section of Mexifornia.

    • TL2014

      Cali or New York!

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        Not Upstate New York. This is beautiful country, with few Negroes outside of Buffalo and Rochester. NYC is too big and wealthy, and they are only 25% of the population. Let them have greater Atlanta. They already seem to be a majority there. Greater Atlanta and Southeastern Michigan. No White person in their right mind would choose to live in either.

        • mikekingjr

          Most of my siblings still reside in ATL metro area, I do fear for them.

  • Easyrhino

    “What If Black America Were a Country?”

    Is there any evidence to the contrary that we wouldn’t see a larger version of Detroit, Gary Indiana etc.?

    • mobilebay

      Easyrhino – funny you should mention Gary, Indiana. That tune from the “Music Man” has been running through my head all day. The setting for the movie had an all white cast, but I suppose that’s changed now from your post.

    • connorhus

      Actually if the US were an all Black country it would look nothing like Detroit. It would be mostly untouched wilderness with Chinese and other foreign companies extracting the resources and paying off the warlords.

      Oh and the rest of the world would be starving.

    • Who Me?

      damn, beat me to it!

  • MekongDelta69

    What If Black America Were a Country?

    It would be AFRICA

    • TruthBeTold

      As they say, where Africans are Africa is.

  • superlloyd

    If Black America were a country all the financial and economic advantages, read bribes, bestowed on low IQ , slothful blacks would disappear and the white created infrastructure would crumble in a couple of weeks, et voila we would have the second African nation in the western hemisphere after that shining light, Haiti.

  • Magician

    Well the birthrate would be roughly 7 times that of Japan…

    In 2014, the birthrate per mother in Japan was 1.4 which was one of the lowest in the world.

    cia[dot]gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2127rank.html

    The reason the birthrate is very high in the black community is not because they are determined to outnumber Hispanics or whites in America, but because they are having sex very irresponsibly……

    And many black dads do not feel responsible to support raising his own biological children at all. Many black dads do not even know who their own biological children are, because many of those men dump their girlfriends even before the kids are born.

    And care to take a guess who will be burdened with paying for the living of those little black angels who were abandoned by their own dads even before they were born?

    Look at this lovely mother!! 15 kids!! She can form a soccer team or a baseball team with her own kids!! her daughters will be cheerleaders!!

    youtube[dot]com/watch?v=RBqjZ0KZCa0

    • superlloyd

      If it weren’t for abortion and murder the black percentage of the total population would have mushroomed. Thank heaven for small mercies.

      • mikekingjr

        Still not enough.

      • Screamin_Ruffed_Grouse

        You know what they say:

        Once you go black… you’re a single mom.

    • John R

      Negroes just “F**K” like crazy! “I jus tinks uh mah dick, an get’in dem bi*ches…”

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        Why, of course!! A “youfs” best friend is always his dick!!! They love to brag about how long it is, as if that is an accomplishment, LOL!!

        • gemjunior

          And they never stop touching it, as if they need to remind themselves that it is still there. They are forever grabbing themselves.

        • John R

          Seriously, if you go on social media, like YouTube, and talk about White accomplishments, sooner or later, a black person will counter with how big their penises are. Honestly, I am not making that up.

      • Magician

        And their dick will still be very active and busy when they enter the prison and spend a few years there….

        In return for his “roommates” keeping his dick happy, he will also have to keep his roommates’ dicks happy….

        • John R

          One has the name “Dix” and the other is named “Gay”? Like it has been said before: You can’t make this stuff up!

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      Let them have their own state with their own law enforcement. The murder rate would probably outpace the rate of natural increase. Without White assistance in medicine, Ebola and other illnesses added to homicide would produce a dwindling population.

  • Chip Carver

    For all intents and purposes, black America is another country. And it eats up a huge amount of foreign aid.

    • John

      According to an article at a website called “Godfather Politics”, the cost of that foreign aid now stands at 18 trillion dollars since 1965 with no end in sight.

      • PvtCharlieSlate

        And that’s approximately equal to the national debt.

        • John

          Funny thing is that my original comment said almost exactly that but I decided to change it to the above. In my original post, I also got sidetracked into speculating how/what our traitorous politicians would be doing to screw things up with even more money to play with.

  • AmericanCitizen

    If black America was a country, who would get up and go to work everyday to pay the taxes for the social programs?

    • Certainly not me.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      That has been happening for many decades now in Northern states.

  • Luca

    Black America is a country and it’s name is Liberia.

    • Magician

      They often complain about whites in this country. (Ferguson unrest is a very good example) and express how much they despise us in general. I wonder what they will say, if we say to them,

      “If you despise us that much, we will give you a free plane ticket to Liberia so you won’t ever have to see or live another day with us ever again in your life”

      • exlib93

        I hope I live to see the time when most white liberals wake up…then our political enemies will be easier to identify.

        • TruthBeTold

          Liberals are never going to wake up.

          The best we can hope for is that we’re allowed to go our own way either peacefully or after the bloodshed.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          If most White Liberals wake up, White ethnostates will form quickly, and secede from the rest of America. The Hispanics will take over and run the show in the diversity hell holes we leave behind. These diversity hell holes will resemble South America in all respects except climate. Blacks will not be treated with munificence by Hispanic elites.

        • Luca

          Know thy enemy, Liberals are your enemy.

      • John R

        Sorry to burst your bubble, but that will never work. Negroes will argue that they should stay here and we go back. You cannot argue logic to Negroids.

      • benvad

        If you’re looking for gratitude you’ll never get it from these narcissists, ever.

      • Stan D Mute

        We tried that already. Even when slavery was still legal in the South, negroes preferred to stay in America and very few actually took the offer for return to their motherland.

        Odd isn’t it? How that little fact keeps getting lost in the condemnation of the South? Long before the civil war, negroes were freed and offered a return to Africa and their very own America subsidized nation in which to live. But they chose to stay and risk returning to slavery. Hmm…

        • Luca

          Many negros wanted to remain as slaves because they would never go hungry, need to provide clothes, medicine and shelter for themselves, nor would they suffer the way the “Po’ White trash” did.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Exactly. For a Southern Planter, slaves were an investment. For a Northern industrialist, European immigrants were pawns. The way Europeam immigrants chose to handle their circumstances was why they created lemonade out of the lemons they were given in the industrial North.

      • LHathaway

        It will be us offered the plane ticket. I, for one, will take it.

  • exlib93

    Is this figuring in their use of our left over infrastructures? It’s a fail either way, just the time elapsed to their total extinction changes.

  • Adolf Verloc

    “The Atlantic” has some very good articles, and this one is excellent. Off the topic of race, was anyone else surprised to see how high Australia stood in median wealth per adult?

    • Extropico

      Mineral wealth per capita is the key. Australia is the size of the continental U.S. with about 7.5% of America’s population.

      • IstvanIN

        Japan and Switzerland are rich in mineral wealth? Who knew!

        • Extropico

          Per capita mineral wealth is an important factor. Hence the reason Qatar and U.A.E. are listed as being wealthier than Israel. An interesting question would concern the difference in wealth delineated between Canada and Australia, the two gigantic nations with very low populations.

          • benvad

            Once the oil runs out in gulf countries they reprimitize themselves.

      • Adolf Verloc

        It still seems puzzling to me. Australia comes in WAY ahead of Saudi Arabia, the U.A.E. and Qatar, all of which have huge oil wealth. They also outrank advanced industrial nations such as Japan and Switzerland.

        • Whitetrashgang

          Huge mineral wealth, food production, and a small population like Canada makes it easy to be wealthy . That’s why white countries need less people not more.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Exactly. Our low birth rate would be an asset if we kept our borders closed to all non-White immigrants, and didn’t hesitate to use force in ejecting non-Whites from our lands.

  • Extropico

    The included charts don’t include any African nations. Weird.

    Beware statistics of any kind, of course. Russia put men in space and allegedly has one sixth of the household wealth of black Americans.

    • IstvanIN

      Maybe black American would even look pitiful next to most of their kinsmen?

    • John R

      Good point. Russia is still a major power, with an advanced military and a space program. It is only poorer than Mexico because of all those hard working mestizos that work like slaves for the overlords in their country. “Please senior, I work hard for you senior; I will work in the fields for you. I just want to work, senior…”

  • Bossman

    This is an almost meaningless proposition. Blacks are a minority with a history of enslavement, segregation and discrimination in the USA. There are a few “Black Americas” but they are in the Caribbean islands. The Bahamas and Barbados are examples of black-ruled countries in the Americas that are able to get by.

    • anony

      Your attempt at victim-hood for the American blacks is despicable. Look to Africa for their cultural accomplishments.

      • Bossman

        Blacks are a people who evolved in the hot steamy tropics where different qualities were necessary for survival. They will always be a problem in white-majority societies.

        • benvad

          It’s an endemic problem that’ll end in either ones destruction.

        • Valmont

          The qualities they’ve evolved in their native habitats don’t seem to be doing them much good in those places. Witness the ongoing Ebola situation, created by their own practices. Where would they likely be without Western medicine, science, technology and foreign aid?

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          You are right. I am impressed that you see this reality. Your Bronze race will soon be their rulers. I suspect that it will be game over for the Negroes once Hispanics are in charge. No more hand-outs, college degrees and professional jobs handed to these 85 IQ baboons.

      • Joe blow

        You are right: sub-Saharan mud-painting ranks with–say– the Italian masters; you know, the Sistine Chapel, the Florentine galleries, etc.

    • Usually Much Calmer

      I find myself agreeing with you; this parsing is meaningless.

      Unrelatedly, I suspect that much of the ruling duties in the Bahamas and Barbados are not actually performed by blacks but by the foreign investor class. This is just my hunch, however. I have no data. For black rule in this hemisphere, I would look to Jamaica if I’m feeling charitable. But I don’t see the point.

    • John R

      Really? So it is the history of being victimized that makes blacks so poor? Okay, I understand. I guess that is why Jews are so poverty stricken, huh?

      • Also Japanese, Chinese and Koreans. The first Japanese immigrants to the US went to work on the pineapple plantations in Hawaii. The Chinese came to California to work on the railroads. They’ve also done rather well here. Then there are the Scots and Irish, who have flourished in the USA, along with French Calvinist Huguenots, Germans, Poles and Italians, and almost all of us speak English at home.

        These were people from already civilized nations, however. African blacks never self-civilized before they were exposed to the outside world. It was “Ooga booga” 24/7 with them and in the 21st Century it still is.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      They deserve to have a future of segregation and subservience to Whites as well. They have created nothing but problems ever since they were allowed to no longer know their place. Their rightful place is as our subordinates.

  • anony

    Dear god let it be so, a separate country that is.

  • Brian

    Comparing black America to China and Russia is an insult to China and Russia. Those countries have a bright future, should they ever clean up their corrupt governments.

    Black America, minus white America, would have no future but becoming Detroit writ large, only far worse without constant white intervention to prevent it from falling headlong into the abyss.

    • winn sutanto

      I do not know what these all arguments are about.
      The quickest solution will be deport ALL black people from ALL western nations.
      Send them back to jungle of Africa, where they belong

  • Steven Barr

    There actually is a country, Liberia, founded by black Americans. It’s a cesspool. However, I do have to givecredit to a few countries such as Bahamas, Barbados and Bermuda. These are overwhelmingly black countries yet they’re pretty stable. Does anybody on here have any idea why?

    • OS-Q

      The American Africans re-created the plantation system in Africa and enslaved the natives. The natives eventually turned the tables on them and took over around the same time Europe was losing control of Africa.

      I’d be curious to see how different the American blacks were from the natives in terms of work ethic, morality, or intelligence, but I’d assume they wouldn’t have been that far apart after a few decades of interaction.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        That is correct. The returned Negroes were also far more brutal with their Negro slaves than Southern Whites ever had been. Most Southern Whites had treated their slaves quite well. Typical Negro behaviors showcased in Liberia after the former slaves were returned.

    • benvad

      At least 75% of the wealth in Barbados is overwhelmingly because of Canadian (white) businessmen. The natives know a good thing and don’t mess it up.

    • John R

      I know why: They are colonies! I think Bermuda is, anyway. And besides, they are major tourist destinations. There is plenty of work for the blacks in the hospitality industries. That is what keeps those places going. Blacks do well enough if they are kept in their place; don’t run anything; and have lots of affluent Whites to cater to. There, did I explain it enough?

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        You hit the nail on the head!! Worked nicely South of the Mason-Dixon until the Northern elites forced integration on the South.

    • B.A_2014

      They are small nations based around tourism. Maybe the average negro there is made of better stuff than say. . . your typical subhuman somalian.

      • mikekingjr

        Not likely. They just seem tamed for the moment. Always feral. Check six frequently.

      • LexiconD1

        So’s Jamaica, but it’s not a safe place for tourists to venture around.

  • And the numbers you see are after a massive Great Society fraud that was supposed to uplift these creatures to equality with whites. Well, if there is a white America in 50 years, with all the oppression of whites by the federal government, we’ll be exchanging places with the blacks in some future infographic.

    • mikekingjr

      Not me, Buddy.

  • John R

    Actually, these statistics need to be taken with more than a grain of salt. The wealth and income of some of the best off black Americans actually derive from entertaining a White audience. Would Oprah Winfrey, the NFL, or most black rappers, be so rich if they didn’t have White people to entertain? And, how much worse would black poverty be, if blacks did not have a zillion government programs financed by White taxpayers? No, lets face it: American blacks are just parasites. They cannot really run any kind of society without White help. They alone would be much like the blacks of Haiti. Perhaps we should just use Haiti as an example of what kind of country Black America would be.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    We also know what it would look like:

    Detroit, South Africa, Baltimore.

    • Pathfinder75

      Is it just me,or is that a body I see floating in the “river” in the top portion of that South African picture?

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        Notice I left out the description of what exactly is in that foul foul liquid.

        • mikekingjr

          makes me want to go for a swim. join me?

          • Crocodiles. No can do, kimosabe.

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            You first!!

            Just make sure to get your shots before indulging….

      • gemjunior

        No, it is not you – that is exactly what it looks like, a body.

      • Joe blow

        Not sure; but I see to what you refer. I used to live in Johannesburg in the seventies–under apartheid–and I could have made it my permanent home: clean, beautiful, safe–a great place to live. Now the western suicide artists have turned it over to the animals, and it is a global center of rape, carjacking and pauperism. Rhodesia is an even more horrible travesty.

    • mikekingjr

      These are postcards, right?

      • meanqueen

        Wow, a picture paints a thousand words!

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        From a photo journal called “the ruins of South Africa” with before and after pix.
        It’s heartbreaking.

  • libertarian1234

    To know what a black America would look like, just look at Haiti, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Detroit, New Orleans, etc.

    Forget the numbers. Those are all based on blacks in a white managed country.

    Reality is cruel to people who can barely read and write and who do math so poorly they’re on a grade school level. The very few who are the exceptions aren’t enough to make a difference.

    • IstvanIN

      To heck with being literate and math wizzes, if they could just follow directions and not be so impulsive they would a ton better off.

      • Stan D Mute

        One big problem is that they’ve internalized the fiction that they are *equal* to whites. Why should they listen, take instruction, follow orders, when they are every bit as smart as white people? In fact, they are dumb enough to believe this nonsense and are thus enraged when whitey politely ignores most of what they say. They may have a genius African idea to put hydroelectric dams on rivers to harness the power of the oceans draining into those rivers (an actual idea I heard from a negro). Instead of laughing, whites politely refrain from comment. This either empowers the negro or enrages him. Either way, indulging the fantasy of “equality” is enormously harmful.

        • Who Me?

          Oceans draining into rivers? Strange that. I’ve lived along rivers in the Pacific Northwest most of my life, and been around a LOT of dams, and I NEVER noticed that! Dang my White intellect! (/Sarc)

        • Valmont

          Problem is, if you get enough oceans draining into rivers, then the entire continent may tip over.

  • ckmariner

    Without Whites, negroes live in mud huts and eat insects.

    • Whitetrashgang

      And thats their Kings and Queens.

      • mikekingjr

        Guess we inherited their servants. ” …ah alackaday. ah f#&k my luck” as James Joyce might have said.

        • mikekingjr

          PS your comment is just as brilliant, whether ye know it or not. Proud to know you fellow.

          • mikekingjr

            my mistake

        • Who Me?

          Too stupid to win a battle against other IQ 75 groups. Too weak or lazy to be useful as slaves to the winning group, too unattractive to use as breeders, too scrawny to eat, and possibly criminals. That’s the ones got sold off as slaves to the white traders on the coasts, so that’s the ones we got.

          • Joe blow

            And some wound up in Ferguson.

    • Stan D Mute

      They also eat *dirt*. It’s common enough that it’s been studied fairly extensively. It’s called (by white people) Geophagy. And of course it’s well documented that cannibalism still exists in Africa. It seems there isn’t much of anything they won’t eat.

      • Who Me?

        Black women used to eat a certain type of clay-based dirt during pregnancy. They did this to provide minerals they needed for the fetus to develop normally. Now some of them still do it because their great-aunt, Jemima or whoever tells them that’s “keepin’ it reels”. There is no need for any of them to eat dirt because they get those trace minerals even on their God-awful diets, and the ones who don’t, don’t really care anyway. (It’s not like their young are going to lose out on the chance to become astrophysicists either way.)

        • gemjunior

          Sometimes it can be from a disorder known as pica, which has numerous causes but in adults it can be similar to obsessive-compulsive behavior, and they hide it because they know what they are doing is really not normal. Pica is common in children (that’s how so much lead poisoning used to occur because young children ate the paint chips of lead paint) but adults all over the world do it too. I’ve heard of people with pica eating chalk, bark, paper, glass, ice, wood, etc. and toilet paper. I heard about black women eating the clay during pregnancy – I may have learned it in school but it doesn’t sound p.c. so maybe I’m mistaken. The ones in NY would call their relatives “down sowf” asking them to send some of this clay and soon a shoebox filled with soil would arrive for them to munch on. No wonder they are deranged.

      • pcmustgo

        Yeah I read a story about poor people in Haiti baking dirt mud pies in the sun.

        • mikekingjr

          Yeah, they never invented ovens for some reason. My Mom always baked our mud pies in a nice White gas oven. Came from Sears and Roebuck as I recall.

          • Joe blow

            I remember my Dad bringing home a brand new GE oven; and how excited we were when Mom baked her first bunch of mud for my sisters to eat! Happy childhood memories!

        • Joe blow

          Some of these comments could probably be considered racist. I would complain, but I just crapped my pants laughing, and had to take a shower and change.

      • mikekingjr

        Saw the clay for sale in South GA, USA. They DO eat it. No Joke.

      • mikekingjr

        Including YOU, White boy! Check six often.

    • mikekingjr

      Wish they’d leave those insects alone and eat their own droppings.

    • Luca

      Without Whites, negroes live in mud huts and eat insects.

      And eat each other, rape children, bathe in urine, drink cow blood, and fornicate with primates.

      Just helping you out a bit.

  • WR_the_realist

    Missing on the charts are any sub-Saharan African countries. If they had some, we’d see that black America is much better off than black Nigieria (or black African country of your choice). Blacks are lifted up, not suppressed, by being imbedded in a (now barely) majority white country. But that doesn’t stop them from hating us.

  • paul marchand

    No white-taxpayer-funded government jobs, no affirmative
    action, no entrepreneurial whites or Asians, no taxpayer-funded welfare, no
    white basketball fans, they would have to pay for their own public schooling,
    their own expanded police force, high incarceration rate………..Haiti in 10 years.

    • paul marchand

      But it would be interesting to see. I would wish that they could support themselves, and if they prove me wrong, that is a feather in their collective cap.

    • Valmont

      No iPhones, no pricey ghetto sneakers, no expensive pimpmobiles with shiny spinny things on the wheels.

  • Gary John 金白龍

    What’s worse is, if any other race had founded and built the USA, would they celebrate themselves becoming a minority?

    Do pigs fly?

  • Nevsky

    If Black America was a country….I would take all the Libtards from White America and send them permanently there to enjoy all the blessings of diversity and cultural vibrancy.

    • mikekingjr

      They would be eaten. Good riddance.

  • hastings88

    If black America were a country, there would be no functioning police force, and crime would be normal life for all citizens.

  • mikefromwichita

    Also to be NOTED- the position of the USA on numerous measures of well-being is greatly reduced by the very presence of this failed internal nation.

    • Melvin Bonzarelli

      Very true. If the black population were removed, for example, from the CDC and WHO statistics on life expectancy, percentage of population incarcerated, and violent crime per 1000 of population, the United States would be up there at the very top, along with Iceland and the Scandinavian countries.

  • Itooktheredpill

    I really think that all the economic power this “new Africa” would have is poorly reasoned. This is the economic power blacks have in a white created and run society. If they were to take control and responsibility for running the economy of “new Africa” it would end up the same as Detroit within a few generations. Without white people there they really have never demonstrated the ability to maintain what we leave them or build on it in any way shape or form. As a matter of fact the opposite is usually true. So 15th wealthiest nation in the world my ass. Maybe for 20 years before it all started falling apart.

    • Melvin Bonzarelli

      “Generations”? More like five years, tops.

      • Itooktheredpill

        Your absolutely right that things would start deteriorating right away. Im trying to use South Africa and Detroit as a marker for how fast blacks tend to start screwing things up. So I think 20-30 years would be enough to see a dramatic decrease in productivity, infrastructure damage, and wealth. The violence, stupidity, lawlessness, rape, and chaos would start right away.

        • Ike Eichenberg

          Rhodesia is another terrific example of the African ability to turn a first world civilization into a third world hades hole.

  • I was thinking more like Zimbawaie

    • Joe blow

      I’m still laughing about “The Central African Empire”; and President Bongo Banana–or whatever–before that was laughed off the little stage.

  • Rusty Shackelford

    Did they adjust the median wealth and unemployment numbers to account for the fact that in Black America, there wouldn’t be any rich white people to own pro sports teams and record labels?

    • Martel

      Black America would not be able to sustain a public sector similar to European majority USA, its middle class would shrink tremendously. Take away subsidies for minority owned businesses, corporations with AA programs and black America’s middle class would be reduced to the level of the pre-civil rights era.

      • Melvin Bonzarelli

        The black middle class in Black America would do exactly what it is doing right now – move to White America and get the hell out of the hood.

  • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

    Your allegations of racism are pure hogwash. When Europeans showed up on the shores of the advanced civilization you describe, what they found was savages engaging in brutal tribal warfare. The Blacks who would become slaves in America were sold to the White shipping merchants by other Blacks. Had they remained in Africa, they would have been murdered and cannibalized by their captors. Those evil Whites that you hate so much brought them to America, where they were well fed and well clothed in return for basic farm labor. Considering the irascibility of the Negro temperament, it is amazing that plantation owners beat them as seldom as they did. If anything, White Southern planters were generally far too munificent with their Negro slaves. Anyone who has ever worked with Negroes on the job knows and appreciates what Southern planters went through trying to get Negroes to do any kind of real work.

  • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

    We are dealing with a people who lack the pre-frontal cortex development of other races of humans. A regressive race. They are not broken from anything Whites have done to them. This is total and complete hogwash!! Life as a Black slave in the South entailed, in many cases, cradle to grave security. No wondering where your next meal would come from. White European immigrants endured far worse at the hands of Yankee factory owners, and became stronger in the face of adversity. Read Upton Sinclair’s book The Jungle. This was what European immigrants went through. They prevailed against adversity instead of becoming sadistic sociopaths.

  • Melvin Bonzarelli

    Remove the income transfer programs from white America to black America: welfare, food stamps, WIC, Section 8 rent subsidies, free public housing apartments, Medicaid – free medical and dental care from conception to death, guaranteed employment for the males in prison commissaries – all of this would be lost if Black America became a separate country. That is why there is so little real support among the population of Puerto Rico, for example, to make that island dependency of the United States a separate, independent country. Seventy-five percent of the island’s population receives food stamp benefits. Over two thirds of the island’s population is on either Medicaid or 100% government subsidized Medicare. The population does not pay any federal income tax. Becoming an independent country and losing the vast charity handouts that the population gets from the mainland would turn that country into a Spanish-speaking version of Camden, New Jersey.

  • meanqueen

    Actually, I have heard hardcore leftists saying exactly that. But then, I was forced to live a good percentage of my life in the Pacific NW, which is a ilbtard cesspool.

  • slobotnavich

    If black America were an independent country it would look exactly like such pinnacles of civilization as Zimbabwe, Nigeria, and any other African hell-hole. Predominately black American cities all look like Hiroshima after the blast. Black Africans are incapable of building modern societies and their accompanying infrastructure – always have been, always will be, and what’s been built on their behalf is quickly and totally destroyed. The greatest mistake this nation ever made was importing them as slaves,the second greatest not exporting them after the Civil War, and the third, awarding them de-facto privileged status in 1965. Of these three errors, the greatest and most damaging was the third.

  • Joe blow

    “Obsolete farm equipment”. I laughed so hard I almost puked.

  • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

    Well said!! Ultimately, each of us is responsible for our own behavior. Blacks are far less likely to look in the mirror first, when things go wrong, than the other races of humans. I still remember how, during Hurricane Katrina, they expected to be helped as if Whites owed it to them. Instead of being grateful when supplies were flown in, they shot at the helicopters!! The helicopter operators should have simply flown away when this happened, and no further aid or supplies brought to them.

  • gemjunior

    No, blacks in the regions described will not “take on new heights in technological and cultural prosperity” in “many decades” – it will be many thousands of years. Even now, 5,000 years later they have not reached the level of the ancient Romans of 3,000 years ago. It will most certainly not happen in decades, because it requires an evolutionary change. You cannot believe that Africans are so far behind due to hundreds of years of abuse – that shows an extremely simplistic and wishful thinking of their very limited capabilities.

  • notto

    RACISTS

  • Werkkk

    People are saying if black america was a country, It would be a terrible like some of africa. Are any of you aware the amount of money african countries pay europe? Are you aware how europe gets ALL of west africans resources at a discount? Are you aware of what europe did to africa when they left africa? Are you aware of the european tax? Africa is struggle because of europe. The european tax eat up an average of 40 percent of the countries capital, how can the a country flourish? on 60 percent of their capital? The US would be a terrible too if that happen here. You guys talk about black america/africa like you actually know something about it. Do some research and ask why are the african nations not stabilizing and growing. To be honest reading a lot of the comments. I see why black americans hate us. Because we just dont shoe understand and we can’t see past brown skin. We don’t even research and see why africans and african americans are where they are? We just make opinions. We think racism stop in 1964.

  • benvad

    Right after they send your mother back to Korea. Are you back Stormfront kimchi style?

  • benvad

    They won’t because I’m not a parasite like you.

  • Vivek Kumar Chaudhary

    The quality of this article brings up an elephant in the living room that a lot of the civilized world just isn’t comfortable discussing: Is genetics the cause of the tendency of white pathology? Most of society is afraid to discuss this… Normal humans tend to want to avoid exploring this topic, maybe we want to believe that white brains are capable of the full cognitive capabilities that normal humans have.

    But deep down, it seems the constant tendency to avoid considering the possibility that whites did not evolve to have the cognitive capacity to participate in modern society, is a way to avoid dealing with uncomfortable possibilities.. We even go so far as to support the coddling of whites…. If we believe whites are equal why do this?

    Take the above article… It would be laughed at if written by most people The author attempted to consider what a black only America would look like. Yet =, he was unable to grasp how to use the simplest of statistics to demonstrate a meaningful conclusion Are we afraid to consider that his innate limits prevented him from understanding how concepts such as net wealth are calculated? Or note the painfully weak understanding of how to calculate and interpret incarceration? We would tear apart a normal author who wrote this, but with a white author we are afraid to criticize him, for fear of even broaching the above topic.

    If we stopped coddling whites we would be able to have a discussion on why, with few exceptions, whites struggle with basic cognitive concepts. If you take a random black individual and try and teach them mathematics or history they will learn based on familiar cognitive patterns… Whites on the other hand? Despite being the race that human society has showered more attempts at nurture than any other, few whites are capable of serious academic abilities…

    I’m not saying I have all the answers… I’m simply saying we need to stop putting our heads in the sand and look at whites like we would any other. Only then can we answer the hard questions and come up with solutions.