Holder: Ferguson Police Need ‘Wholesale Change’

Eric Tucker, Yahoo! News, October 29, 2014

Attorney General Eric Holder said Wednesday that there was an obvious need for “wholesale change” in the Ferguson, Missouri, police department.

The statement at a forum in Washington came as the Justice Department continues a broad investigation into the practices of the police department following the Aug. 9 police shooting of an unarmed black 18-year-old, Michael Brown. {snip}

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In a question-and-answer session with a newspaper columnist at the Washington Ideas Forum, Holder would not say what the reforms should be or discuss potential leadership changes at the department. But he did say, “I think it’s pretty clear that the need for wholesale change in that department is appropriate.”

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During a wide-ranging interview session, Holder was also asked about his 2009 characterization of the country as a “nation of cowards” when it comes to racial matters. He said he stood by those remarks and that the country was “still reluctant to talk about issues of race” and does so only during “episodic cases.”

When asked how he wanted to be remembered, Holder, who last month said he would resign as soon as a successor is confirmed, said, “As a person who tried to make the country better and used the power of his office to raise issues that too often were not addressed.”

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  • Periapsis

    All of us here do not need to try very hard to see what sort of changes Eric “My People” Holder has in mind. However, he should be careful what he wishes for, because if he gets it the result might be disastrous for him personally.

    • DD-762

      Wouldn’t it be interesting if white police in the US take a job action and refuse to respond into black areas until the DOJ stops this harassment?

      • 1stworlder

        That happened in Harrisburg. Mayor “Gimme Dat” Thomson got elected on the promise to attack the careers of cops that shot black felons. Then they stopped going to the areas that they shoot black felons the following summer 2009 the local NAACP asked the governor to declare martial law after 12 black on black murders in one month

        • R L Buds

          Mayor “Gimme Dat” Thomson……..thanks for that.

          • 1stworlder

            Even funnier is that she replaced a white gay mayor that was in power for 20 years but managed to balance the budget that everyone referred to as Queen Reed.

      • 1stworlder
    • Diversity Fatigue

      If we had any republicans with a back bone, Holder would have been nailed for Fast and Furious and his boss, Hussein, tried for treason.

      • IstvanIN

        Most Republicans need to be tried for treason. Maybe they are afraid of going down with their co-conspirators.

        • archer

          I think you right, they all have dirt on them, that’s why we have to get all of the long term pols out of office whether they are dems or repubs, their killing us.

    • propagandaoftruth

      I actually kind of agree with ol’ high yaller on this…

      They should turn Ferguson and any other department in any Blackton into something more in line with…

      “I am the law!”

  • MekongDelta69

    And in another article I read today, they are trying to ‘ease‘ [read: pressure] Darren Wilson out of his job.

    http://stlouis[dot]cbslocal[dot]com/2014/10/30/report-officer-darren-wilson-expected-to-be-eased-out-of-police-department/

    • B.E.L.

      I think Officer Wilson is finished as a police officer. If he stays in Ferguson his life will constantly be in danger. If he goes to another police department, this incident will follow him like a black cloud. Nevermind the fact that he could be forced to shoot another “innocent” black person, that alone would be enough to make me leave police work.

      • MBlanc46

        He certainly has to move. If he’s got a middle name, he should start using it.

      • Realist

        “….black cloud.”
        Love the pun intended or not.

    • A Freespeechzone

      If they try that—hopefully he will file and get disability income—for the stress and harassment he’s received from the likes of Holder, the press and those lawless negroes who will stop at nothing to murder him.

  • anony

    Holder probably thinks that a majority black community like Ferguson should have a majority black police force, majority black teachers, etc.

    I say yes! Let’s segregate! Separation is, after all, the only answer.

    • 1stworlder

      Doesn’t he know there are minimum standards for those jobs?

      • R L Buds

        Not anymo’

      • Max

        Since there is apparently no minimum standard for HIS job, possibly not.

  • Dave4088

    By “wholesale change” Enrique means a black police chief (and member of the NAACP) and a lowering of standards to accept people like Michael Brown as officers.

    But I agree we need wholesale changes to society to include segregation of the races and to begin repatriating Eric Holder and his people back to the dark continent whence they came and where they belong.

  • Frank_DeScushin

    The wholesale change for the Ferguson police force that Holder is thinking but not explicitly saying is that he wants it to go from white to black.

    The change from white to black will have the same effect on the Ferguson PD that it had on Ferguson itself. A disastrously negative one.

    • 1stworlder

      It was white before 2 section 8 housing complexes got dumped in the area 10 years ago.

  • phorning

    Eric Holder should be a case study for future generations on how corrupting power is in the hands of evil men.

    • MannyR

      You can add Teddy Kenedy, LBJ, Janet Reno and both Clintons as far as I’m concern.

  • Speaking of, CNN has started a rumor that Chief Tom Jackson is going to be fired, which he has denied and everyone credibly close to the situation has denied. Incidentally, CNN is practically camped out near the Ferguson City Hall and Police HQ. Could it be CNN is trying to start a riot that CNN is right there on the scene to cover first?

    • Periapsis

      Now you know why CNN also stands for Communist News Network.

  • guest

    “Attorney General Eric Holder said Wednesday that there was an obvious need for “wholesale change” in the Ferguson, Missouri, police department.”

    In other words, he wants all the White police officers fired and replaced with black ones. And they should never be asked if they have a criminal history like they do with anyone else who wants a job as a law official. That would be “racist”.

    “And he still thinks America is a nation of cowards who won’t talk about race.”

    Again, the only real cowards are people like Holder who can’t bear to hear the politically incorrect truth about race which is why they do everything that can to silence those who dare speak the real truth.

    • Sick of it

      There are plenty of white cowards who even avoid talking about race in private. Who refuse to ascribe obvious differences between whites and blacks to race.

      • 1stworlder

        I was actually at a school related meeting tonight when the student representatives talked about how the area is boring I got up and explained that one of the reason other areas seem nicer is that the news selectively reports news. Then I pointed out about the black muslim serial killer of gays caught in august in the nearest metropolitian area, who used a social media gay sex phone app to meet his victims was not covered in the mainstream news at all, but a white cop several states away killing a gang banger who just robbed a liquor store 10 min before is non stop news for months.

        • MBlanc46

          Was that honest enough for them?

        • MannyR

          You mean the gay black Muslim that shot an innocent white kid sitting at a stop light on the east coast in the name of Jihad. The queers I could care less about but the white kid needs avenging.

  • Holder calls for “wholesale change” which means blacks replacing whites. But once it becomes evident (as it always does) that the blacks are incompetent and have no ability to manage others or perform their jobs with genuine skill, they’ll blame such failures on whites too. The vicious anti-white cycle never ends so long as there exists an endless list of creative excuses.

  • Robert Binion

    In which Dantesque circle is the “Washington Ideas Forum” held? Is it moderated by Beelzebub?

  • dd121

    Challenge the premise. Ferguson police haven’t done anything wrong and don’t need to be changed by Holder.

  • Tim_in_Indiana

    Eric Holder, who wants the Ferguson police department to “shut up,” says that he thinks that we are still a “nation of cowards,” and he’s right! If we weren’t, then long ago we would have told Eric Holder to SHUT UP!

  • Diversity Fatigue

    Holder’s idea for a discussion about race would be blaming whitey for all the psychotic behavior of his people and how much more wealth he can transfer from us to them. He is one of the most viscious black racists to have ever held high office. Hussein notwithstanding.

  • WR_the_realist

    Anytime Eric Holder wants to talk about race he came come right over here to amren.com and do so. What needs wholesale change is the federal Department.of Justice.

    • MBlanc46

      I should have known that some savvy AmRenner would have beaten me to it.

    • R L Buds

      But we are just vicious whites attacking innocent blacks for no reason.

      The fact that more than a few of us have been victims of “his” people (but not our own for some mysterious reason) is meaningless to them. They seem to think “it could have been a white man robbing you at gun point, the fact that he was black has nothing to do with it”.

      I know there are many terrible white people, but we dont make excuses for them when they hurt people, we send them to prison. As usual “they” want the benefits of a modern society without the accountability.

      • Max

        The legend of racial insignificance is deeply penetrant. Even otherwise VERY conservative people I know ascribe the crime in cities to “poverty”. When pressed as to why white Appalachia has desperately poor areas with little violent crime the response in one case was “It’s a very different culture”. It is simply beyond the reasoning of many to consider that culture is a RESULT of the people and not some etheric force or miasma causing the behavior of the people therein.
        The multigenerational brainwashing seems intractable.

  • Sue

    Someone did want to have a conversation with him and sent the book Defensive Racism. Ended up in jail, now he’s dead.

  • Luca

    We are a “nation of cowards” only when we bow to political correctness.

  • ghettovalley

    Ferguson Missouri needs wholesale change in the racial demographics department. That’s the only way to make their problems go away.

  • me

    To think that this low, trifling Negro is the Attorney General of the USA is unbelievable. He wasn’t even born here, but he sure has that ghetto Negro sense of tribalism, entitlement, and a big mouth to go with it. Racist loser! I thought he was done ‘officially’ tormenting Whitey, being that he was supposed to step down before he was prosecuted for his many criminal acts perpetrated while in office. The more I see of this aberration, the less I think of him.

    • HE2

      me, the ghetto dirtbag was born here. Bronx N.Y.

  • Steve_in_Vermont

    Holder is right, most Americans don’t want to talk about racial issues. But his reasoning is wrong and these folks are not “cowards”. Every time a person expresses an opinion regarding blacks (that isn’t “PC”) they are labeled a “racist” and threatened. And this is true no matter the color of a persons skin. Until the black community is willing to listen to what others have to say, and not condemn them for their beliefs, we will never have a “frank and open discussion” about race. Never.

    • Valmont

      Every “conversation” is just another shakedown. No wonder he gets no takers.

  • MBlanc46

    If Eric Holder wants to participate in an honest conversation about race, he should log on to AmRen. We’d give him more honesty than he could shake a stick at.

    • Luca

      Liberals have no use for honesty. To them it is like kryptonite.

  • George Costanza

    “During a wide-ranging interview session, Holder was also asked about his
    2009 characterization of the country as a “nation of cowards” when it
    comes to racial matters. He said he stood by those remarks and that the
    country was “still reluctant to talk about issues of race” and does so
    only during “episodic cases.”

    What that REALLY means is…”It’s all whitey’s fault, ALWAYS IS!!! ALWAYS WIL BE!!!!”

  • Kenner

    O’Reilly agrees with Holder that The Ferguson Police Department needs ‘wholesale change’, because when he attempted to reach them, it was ‘utter chaos’… As if that’s why Holder wants wholesale change. O’Reilly acting disingenuous is one grotesque spectacle.

    • cpt_2400

      Have you noticed how the richer O’Reilly gets, the more mainstream his opinions have become?

      • anony

        Yes. Everyone has their price. They found his obviously.

    • anony

      O’Reilly says whatever he thinks will get him higher ratings. And he’s always right. A legend in his own mind.

  • MannyR

    At this point in my life I have no need to hear ANY black persons opinion on any matter other than who makes the best barbecue or how I can optimize my car stereo systems bass. The idea that this man still talks and anyone takes him seriously is tragic. He’s a white hating evil POS that should be prospected for murder over the 2Fast 2Furious ” you homies want some guns” fiasco. He’s not a serious politician he’s trash, plain and simple. And I though the was stepping down anyway?

  • Pathfinder75

    What the Ferguson police department really needs is a citizenry that respects the rule of law.

  • JohnEngelman

    During a wide-ranging interview session, Holder was also asked about his 2009 characterization of the country as a “nation of cowards” when it comes to racial matters. He said he stood by those remarks and that the country was “still reluctant to talk about issues of race” and does so only during “episodic cases.”

    – Eric Tucker, Yahoo! News, October 29, 2014

    We “still reluctant to talk about issues of race,” because telling the truth about racial differences can get one fired.

  • guest

    AG Holder is a (sometimes ) photogenic mediocrity who is a foil to President Obama.
    Policing as in areas like Ferguson is nothing other than a manifestation of what
    has been lost in historical “evolution” when the truly governing functions of an intact
    family, an evolved neighborhood, a functional school system, etc. have all eroded nearly
    into extinction. I don’t think AG Holder has any sense of history or much capacity to
    perceive matters at any depth. If President Obama dislikes Hillary Clinton on a personal
    level as intensely as is rumored, he could appoint as AG Holder’s success little dainty
    Monica Lewinsky. Doesn’t have a law degree? Well, send away and get her one.

  • Earl P. Holt III

    I’d be happy to talk about race with that n*gger ANY day of the week…

  • archer

    Well look who’s talking about being a coward when it comes to race. How many black on white rapes and murders and beatings does it take for him to discuss that aspect of race. That is the elephant in the room that is not being “addressed”.

  • Fed Up

    The new policy of Ferguson police to be as follows:

    When confronting a Black suspect, the officer is required to carefully lay all weapons down — in front of the suspect, take twenty steps backward, and respectfully ask the suspect to appear at the police station at his convenience, that they can mutually discuss the suspected guilt of the Black.

    If attacked by a Black criminal, the officer is not to take the slightest action in defending himself.

  • 1G25

    “I think it’s pretty clear that the need for wholesale change in that department is appropriate.”

    Agree. The entire force should walk off the job and let the apes kill each other.

  • Ghost

    I agree. All YTs should pull out and let the niqqers take over everything. Police department, fire department, utilities upkeep, EMS, local hospitals, local government, road upkeep. Everything. Then we can sit back and watch the show called Chaos.

    • Luca

      We could all that show Liberia, Haiti or Detroit

  • Being that this so call Attoney general seem to only want to enforce laws that suit him and his credibility as a government official who is suppose to serve and protect all Americans, he has failed tremendously .
    What should be done is all law enforcement pull out and leave Ferguson. Let them handle them selves, as well blockade the town, no one in no one out. give them 2yrs then move the national guard in to clean up what is left. Being that a black mob is exempt to the laws of the U.S.
    At the same time constant drones will keep an eye on the place as it turns into a movie from the 80’s escape from Ferguson. at least it will be entertaining to watch them cannibalize them selves. no much different than now just no police will be put in arms way of this part of the u.s where chaos seems to rule. This should be publicized in the media, to show the world what most already know. low educated people even blacks when left to their own devices what happens when civilization fails in a once great country.