Despite Racial Divides, Poll Finds Wide Support for Sterling’s Penalties

Marjorie Connelly, New York Times, May 2, 2014

As the fallout continues from the disclosure of racist remarks made by Donald Sterling, the owner of the Los Angeles Clippers, a national New York Times/CBS News poll showed that while there is wide support for the actions taken by the N.B.A., there are deep racial divisions among basketball fans.

Sixty-five percent said the decision by Commissioner Adam Silver to bar Sterling from the league for life and fine him $2.5 million was an appropriate response to his racist comments, which were made public last weekend. Over all, 21 percent said the league had been too punitive and 10 percent considered Sterling’s penalty too lenient.

Six in 10 black fans think racist beliefs such as those expressed by Sterling are prevalent among team owners in professional sports; only 19 percent of white fans agree.

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At the same time, the public regards race relations in the United States as generally good. Again, the views of whites and blacks diverge. Most whites, 60 percent, view race relations in a positive light. Blacks are evenly divided: 46 percent consider race relations good and an equal number say they are bad. {snip}

Some have contended that Sterling’s privacy had been invaded when the surreptitiously taped conversation was disclosed on the TMZ website. Most fans do not share that opinion. Over all, 54 percent said his punishment was acceptable, while 43 percent said he should not be punished for statements made in private. White fans were split: 48 percent said it was appropriate, 47 percent disagreed.

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Two-thirds of black fans also consider it acceptable for Sterling to be penalized for his bigoted remarks made in private.

The N.B.A. announced Thursday that it was moving forward with the process to terminate Sterling’s ownership of the Clippers, which began in 1981. This action would be strongly supported by fans: 66 percent said Sterling should be forced to sell the team, while 29 percent disagreed.

Again, the intensity of opinion differed by race. Among black fans, 77 percent said Sterling should be compelled to sell the team; 59 percent of white fans agreed.

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The nationwide poll was conducted using landlines and cellphones on April 30 and May 1 with 1,054 adults, of whom 534 said they followed professional basketball. For purposes of analysis, blacks were oversampled in this poll.

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[Editor’s Note: Detailed poll results can be found here. Sixty-one percent of whites say Mr. Sterling’s punishment is “about right.” Seventy-five percent of blacks agree.]

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  • MekongDelta69

    61 percent of white basketball fans say Sterling deserved his punishment.

    Which means that 61 percent of White NBA fans are mindless idiots…

    • c684570

      Not surprising. I am happy that the article mentioned that these were basketball fans polled. I seem to doubt the numbers in the general public would be so high. But then again, White people living in lily-White areas probably feel this way.

      • I saw a poll on the CBS Los Angeles website that 74% thought the punishment was too severe. Now, internet polls aren’t scientific, but don’t forget that in scientific polls, when the topic is hot button, people lie to pollsters.

        • Pro_Whitey

          After seeing what happened to Sterling and then to the guy who tweeted that Sterling had a right to say such things in private, I am surprised anyone expressed doubt or opposition in a poll. When they call me, I presume they have some basic information about who I am, and they can pass along that information to my bosses.

          • mikey7777

            After seeing what happened to Sterling and then to the guy who tweeted
            that Sterling had a right to say such things in private, I am surprised
            anyone expressed doubt or opposition in a poll.

            EXACTLY what good are those polls ,nobody is going to tell the truth of how they really feel now because every white person is officially culled

      • sbuffalonative

        Yes, white basketball fans is a small subset of whites. It’s not surprising they would feel this way. What is surprising is that it’s not 100%. 39% aren’t swayed by the media hype.

        But this poll will be misused by our enemies to show that ‘right’ thinking whites have the correct opinions about racial matters.

    • Homo_Occidentalis

      Make that 100%. Whites who interest themselves in the negro idolatry peddled by the “Negro Basketball Association” are beyond redemption in my eyes. It’s just another opiate for the masses.

      • Einsatzgrenadier

        Around these parts, folks refer to bakkaball as n*****rball, which is what it is. We have no time for negro worship.

      • FeuerSalamander

        Twenty years ago I told my family I had no interest in watching basketball because the players on all the teams are almost all black, and I could not care less if one team one or another did. I was called “racist”, I didn’t care, I asked them if they seriously expected me to care to watch a bunch of negroes jumping around and throwing balls, they thought about it and they could not answer, I suspect because when they thought about it, they realized they had no interest in watching it either. The result was that they didn’t watch it after that. In fact, they never really watched it much in the first place but they were falling victim to the media hype ( the machinations of the unmentionables- ONE OF WHICH OWNS THE CLIPPERS) about march madness and all that nonsense. I was still labelled the “racist” one though.

    • Whitetrashgang

      2 thirds of white people are mindless idiots, just another reminder.

    • So CAL Snowman

      100% of White NBA fans are mindless idiots, only 61% openly admitted it.

    • Bobbala

      … or intimidated.

    • Rurik

      Anybody who enjoys watching a bunch of sweaty Black guys jumping around in their underwear has to be included.

    • Garrett Brown

      Well yes, they’re already watching negroball.

  • Tom Thumb

    Oh well then, it’s the NYTimes. Who wouldn’t believe it?

  • DaveMed

    From a completely different perspective: I think he deserved it for being dumb enough to say the things he said during a phone call to a half-Black, half-Mexican escort girl.

    • Shawn_thefemale

      Absolutley. AND considering he made an obscene amount of money off those hated blacks. What a greedy, two-faced idiot. He is the kind of white I despise.

  • D.B. Cooper

    I would boycott the NBA, but I’ve already been doing that my entire life.

  • Dave4088

    It was reported today that Donald Sterling did not want to sign white player J.J. Redick because he was white and therefore, stereotyped as inferior to other black options on the market. I didn’t see any invective, outrage or histrionics from the lefty media, Adam Silver, or self righteous, holier than thou black race hustlers (practically the entire race). And I highly doubt the NBA would have inflicted punitive measures over his negative opinion of white basketball players.

    Tell me, where is the white skin privilege in this scenario?

    • jane johnson

      I haven’t heard one White player object to either Kevin Johnson calling for an all-black league, or to Barkley characterizing the NBA as a “black league”. White privilege isn’t the only thing they checked when they signed up.

      • Dave4088

        Chris Paul, the LA Clippers star player, was instrumental in the firing of white coach Vinny Del Negro and demanded a black coach after the 2013 season and Sterling complied. We all know the drill if a white player helped oust a black coach to pave the way for a white coach.

        Charles Barkley would say not only is that racist, that’s terrbull (sic).

      • MikeofAges

        I think it was Larry Johnson who called for an all-black league. Even so, his comments might have had a little nuance to them. I think they were intended mostly as political theater, not a serious proposal.

        Kevin Johnson has a little more caliber. He graduated from U.C. Berkeley where he played college ball, and presently is serving as mayor of Sacramento, California. He does have some skeletons in his closet however.

  • DudeWheresMyCountry?

    I find it interesting that everyone in the media; TV, radio, print, internet… all use the word racist to describe what he said without anything else supporting it. That is an opinion, not a fact. Journalism is just propagandism, up is down, wrong is right… Rod Serling would easily recognize this sinking vessel we call Amerika.

  • Zaporizhian Sich

    Sterling is a Jew, but even so what happened over what he had said in the privacy of his own home shows the constant danger ALL whites face. It shows how the Bill of Rights is worth as much as the paper it’s printed on. Whites can lose their income or even everything they have if someone with an agenda like Mr. Sterling’s gold-digger girlfriend in their presence. Soon whites are going to be killed over things they say in their own homes if this trend continues to the conclusion the ruling elite desires.

    • kill this and live free

      • MikeofAges

        Cultural Marxism, although American and European Jews had a principal, though not exclusive role in creating it, also has infiltrated Judaism. Enough so that Reform Judaism early split into two branches, one of which became Conservative Judaism. The Zionist movement was highly socialist in its political ideology. The goal of Zionism was not only to establish a Jewish state, but to establish a socialist, secular Jewish republic in Palestine. Only very slowly is the influence of Jewish socialism declining within the Jewish population worldwide.

        • Martel

          I appreciate the early Zionists as they made some correct conclusions about the sources of antisemitism, actually acknowledging that Jewish behavior contributed to the conflict just as much as gentile behaviour. Your friend Engelman claims the opposite, that immoral gentiles bullied Jews for no reason other then inexplicable bigotry, while Jews did not and do not suffer from any moral flaws. About the role of American and European Jews in developing cultural Marxist doctrine, I don’t see any gentiles who had a meaningful role, what I would say is that the ideology has partially turned against the jews. Aggression against Israel comes partly from the notion that Jews are ”European invaders” into the lands inhabited by non whites.

  • Romulus

    There should have been no punitive measures at all!!
    An illegally taped conversation being means for forcible property confiscation is absolute BS.

    NOT once did sperling even mention a single racial pejorative. Indicating a groups collective racial identity is also now racist?? This goes beyond mere PC. This is a prelude to more intrusive law enforcement of the European variety now being imposed on our ancestral homelands.

    Watch as these trends intensify.

    • shawnmer

      Indeed. Whether the results of this poll are genuine sentiment among whites or forced responses of cowardice, it’s dismaying.

    • MikeofAges

      Possible tampering. If the release of the recording was instigated by a potential buyer, the league is opening it self to possible lawsuits even by Sterling’s heirs.

      This is really grotesque situation, culminating with a bunch of pious billionaires now lining as potential purchasers. Sterling has done enough gross stuff down through the years to make his suspension justifiable. He even threw a fit over a white player who was given a hefty contract, complaining that white players did not deserve big money.

      Using an illegally recorded private conversation to force the transfer of someone’s property to a preferred buyer is more than a little shady though. The NBA might qualify as a racketeering influenced and corrupt organized under RICO laws anyway. Adam Silver might be a decent guy who reached too far too fast. David Stern, however, was a real piece of work. Stern made Bud Selig look like King Solomon by comparison.

      • Romulus

        As always…… The same instigators.

  • Hunter Morrow

    Will they ever note that this sordid incident is another aspect of the Not So Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews? Donald “Sterling” was born Donald Tokowitz,
    after all.

  • Medizin

    From the (Sterling) Stiviano/Barbara Walters interview, the media ignores.

    Stiviano claims friends, business, real estate associates and board members were frequently calling Sterling, and saying negative things about her. Sterling does mention he
    wants to stop the calls in the first video. They couldn’t understand why such a powerful man was associated with her (too young, whore, etc).

    She began screening Sterling’s calls, refusing to allow them to speak or meet with him, because of the negative comments they made. They didn’t like that.

    Now we know the real reason why Sterling asked Stiviano not to be seen with blacks in public. It all makes sense after listening to both tapes. It wasn’t his racism, it was his business associates’ racism.

    http://msnDOTfoxsportsDOTcom/nba/story/donald-sterling-girlfriend-v-stiviano-speaks-about-relationship-barbara-walters-050214

  • Sue

    The nationwide poll was conducted using landlines and cellphones on
    April 30 and May 1 with 1,054 adults, of whom 534 said they followed
    professional basketball. For purposes of analysis, blacks were
    oversampled in this poll.
    Stats are funny things. Blacks were over sampled and a little over half the people polled followed basketball. You can get 60% if you ask 10 whites. How many were actually polled? Unless I missed it?

    • r j p

      Ever notice the odd numbers of participants in polls.
      I really believe they stop the polling once they get a run in favor of their desired outcome.

      • Sue

        Sure do.
        Have to agree with you and then wonder if they “poll” at all. Can’t imagine they ask any amren readers.

  • Rhialto

    I admit that the Liberals puzzle me, and the Sterling stinkbomb is one more example. Consider the facts: Sterling is an old non-Eskimo billionaire Liberal who makes huge donations to Liberal causes, including Black advocacy organizations. He requests his non-White full time prostie to slightly alter her behavior by not publicly consorting with Black men. That’s it, unless I’ve missed something.

    Not only did Blacks turn on him, but the entire Liberal establishment reviled him as the new George Zimmerman + George Wallace. I would have expcted this Liberal reaction if Sterling had made a donation to a SPLC condemned organization, but I would not have predicted the Liberal frenzy for what he actually did.

    Liberals are strange organisms.

    • KevinPhillipsBong

      Proof that they no longer control the beast they’ve sired…

  • 4321realist

    “61 percent of white basketball fans say Sterling deserved his punishment.”

    Why didn’t they take a poll when Jamie Fox said he loved his role in Django, because he got to “kill white people?”

    And MOST ESPECIALLY why wasn’t a poll taken to find out if Oprah Winfrey needs to be punished for saying, “All old white people need to die?”

    After all what Sterling said was really very mild by comparison.

    And why didn’t the MSM report on Oprah Winfrey’s vile racist comments. And why didn’t the conservative pundits at least begin a narrative on her racist hate speech? Or Jamie Foxx’s racist hate rhetoric?

    • LHathaway

      Jamie Fox was making a joke. Which kind of makes it worse, really. Killing white people is just a harmless joke. These days, maybe if you don’t laugh at such a joke it could mean you secretly harbor bad thoughts, and need your basketball team taken away from you. Big brother should be on the look out for those who harbor the wrong facial expressions.

      • 4321realist

        “Jamie Fox was making a joke.”

        Yeah, sure he was. And what do you base your opinion on? What part of killing people can be thought of as funny?

        Was he undergoing lots of criticism from whites that would justify this comment to be thought of as a joke? He was not.

        You mean, if he were called to account for what he said he could CLAIM he was making a joke.

        He has also alluded to the fact he can’t stand being in white society,
        and feels relieved when he’s not working with whites and can go back to his black world and act normally.

        The entire history of this black reveals his anti-white hatred.

        But he isn’t unusual. He’s the black norm.

  • FeuerSalamander

    So what, if people felt there was a change of wind in this country, the figures would be reversed.

  • Medizin

    55% Fox news poll did not agree with verdict.

  • FeuerSalamander

    Why not be honest and change the name of the team to “The Kleptors”

  • LHathaway

    I’d noticed the hype about this story. .when I got to the actual racist comments Sterling made. . it seemed to be that he didn’t want his girlfriend sleeping with a man of color. Maybe Sterling just voiced his reservations in the wrong way but one could twist this story and say the message is that you are now a racist if you act to prevent a black man from sleeping with your wife.

    • WR_the_realist

      Well, it was actually his mistress he didn’t want sleeping with a black man. Donald Sterling has had a long string of prostitutes and escort girls, all the while being married. This fact has gotten no criticism from the media whatsoever, aside from a column by Ann Coulter. OTOH, the liberal media, so keen to protect our privacy rights, has no concern at all publicizing a private conversation that was recorded in violation of California’s anti-wiretapping law.

      • Whitetrashgang

        Yes it shows the morals or lack of in the Country. Married and having whores on the side okay, say something that might offend someone in your own house, Now that’s going too far.

  • Evette Coutier

    For the liberal, race is an instrument of power and nothing more.

  • John R

    Just shows how, sadly, many Whites have been beaten down by the constant barrage of leftist propaganda. So, they are “not racist”? I’ll ask those non-racist Whites a question: Do you think that, when you are the minority, that other races will respect your rights as much as you respect theirs?

    • LHathaway

      The ‘tolerance’ game is over once white men demand equal rights, as is affirmative action for everyone who isn’t a white male. I hope those employed at EO offices can find a new line of work, like say, at phone rooms in India. What I hope does work is reverse HB-1 visas. . . .

  • bubo

    No one should really feel bad for this ghoulish character. A rich slum lord who owns a basketball team, makes big donations to lib causes, pays off scum like the NAACP and worst of all gives Ferraris and Bentleys to con artist whores doesn’t deserve our sympathy.

  • Viking_61

    “White basketball fans”… They phrase it like all white people are “basketball fans”. I would bet no more than 1/4 of white Americans self identify as “basketball fans.”

  • Alpin Thueson

    I truly believe this whole drama is an elaborate scam to sell the Clippers for an inflated price before the economic collapse.

  • Truth Teller

    Who cares? White men who watch and support black entertainment such as pro sports are as much a traitors as women who date blacks. Maybe 100,000 White women a year have some sort of relationship with a black man, maybe 5,000 give birth to an OFE.

    BUT 100 MILLION WHITE MEN SPEND THEIR LIVES AT THE CHURCH OF BLACK SPORTS WORSHIPPING THIER GODS YEAR AFTER YEAR. AND THEY BUY THE OVERPRICED SHIRTS AND TRINKETS FOR THEIR SONS.

  • I wonder why they didn’t poll blacks on whether they knew Donald Sterling was really a Jew named Donald Tokowitz or whether they knew that three-quarters of the NBA’s owners were Jewish.

  • Truth Teller

    What the escort girl did was a violation of CPC 631 a, a misdemeanor civil fine $2,500 or year in county jail which never happens, especially in Los Angeles county. Somewhere in the civil code are provisions for the victim of wiretapping to sue the perpetrator for damages if damages occur. In his case, damages certainly did occur.

    Did anyone see a picture of the wife? Probably 70 years old, probably had a good, emphasis on good facelift and still much prettier than the OFE/indio.
    First sentence in the Jewish Daily Forward is “Jew vs Jew” referring to Silver who stands to profit. The whole thing was probably a set up.

  • mikefromwichita

    Personally I would not trust any poll associated with the NYT.

  • mikey7777

    the best part is Oprah comes out and says “yea let my buy into the team” after spouting

    Old white people “just have to die”

  • Tom B

    Wouldn’t we all like to hear taped trash talk from black NBAer’s.

  • Paulie Boy

    Observe the 61%, they are fan boys, wearing the jersey’s of their favorite black player. There is more than a bit of latent homosexuality involved.