US: Defense Contractor Tried to Smuggle F-35 Blueprints to Iran

Lee Ferran, ABC News, January 14, 2014

An engineer for a major American defense contractor tried to smuggle thousands of secret documents, including blueprints, on America’s multi-billion-dollar F-35 stealth fighter to Iran in boxes labeled as “household goods,” U.S. prosecutors say.

Mozaffar Khazaee, a dual U.S.-Iranian citizen, was reportedly arrested late last week as he was attempting to travel to Germany and then on to Iran. Weeks earlier, Khazaee had arranged for a shipping company to take boxes containing “sensitive technical manuals, specification sheets, and other proprietary material” related to the F-35 and its engines to a contact in Iran, according to an affidavit filed by a Special Agent of Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Homeland Security Investigations.

The reams of documents were discovered in November when Customs officers inspected a truck shipment Khazaee had sent from Connecticut to California, which was intended to go on to Hamadan, Iran, the affidavit said. The 44 boxes, which had been described to the shipping company as containing “books and college-related items, two suitcases, a vacuum cleaner and some other items,” actually held “thousands of pages contained in dozens of manuals/binders relating to the JSF [F-35 Joint Strike Fighter] program.”

Court documents describe Khazaee as having worked as an engineer for several defense contractors, leaving his most recent employer last August. None of the contractors are identified in the court documents, but the latest employer, Company A, is described as a Connecticut-based contractor that produced the F-22 Raptor’s F-119 engine.

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The affidavit states travel records show Khazaee has traveled to Iran at least five times in the last seven years.

The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter is the most expensive defense program in history, estimated to cost approximately $400 billion, and is meant to replace the air-to-ground fighter attack fleets of the Navy and Marine Corps, and work in tandem with the Air Force’s next-generation F-22 Raptor, an air-to-air fighter. Slammed by critics for terrible planning and production, which caused numerous developmental delays and a ballooning price tag, the Air Force has stood by the F-35 as what it calls the future of American air power.

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  • John Smith

    Oh well. But at least so called “diversity” in our military is a strength, right?

    I guess dual citizenship is a strength too, right?

    • sbuffalonative

      Duel citizenship has to be one of the dumbest ideas ever. Why this is allowed, I’ll never…well, actually I do.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Yup, another Diversity Devil.

    • joesphx

      At this time there are 51 US Senators and Representatives that hold dual citizenship with Israel. The newest appointment as vice chair of the Fed Reserve is also a dual citizen. All of these hold dual citizenship with the state of Israel. Why? Isn’t America good enough to contain all of the loyalty from these folks and how does this affect their decision making in important positions?

  • sbuffalonative

    Court documents describe Khazaee as having worked as an engineer for several defense contractors, leaving his most recent employer last August. None of the contractors are identified in the court documents, but the latest employer, Company A, is described as a Connecticut-based contractor that produced the F-22 Raptor’s F-119 engine.

    If they didn’t hire him, he likely would have had grounds for a discrimination lawsuit.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      That would have to be the Pratt & Whitney engine.

  • Luca

    These situations will become worse when middle-eastern anchor babies become citizens and can easily infiltrate all level of Government security.

    Just imagine an American Navy Captain named Mustafa, born here 30-years ago and now having his finger inches from the red button on the submarine he commands. Sound far-fetched? Maj. Nidal Hasan was born here.

    • Jesse James

      Exactly, that is an all to possible outcome of today’s diverse US military.

      • Martel

        Its not a possible outcome its unavoidable, The USA will completely fall apart, it will be common for American citizens born to Hispanic parents to betray the United States to their countries of origin.

    • John K

      It’s very common for these savages to travel to the Middle East to train with terrorists, and then come back to do harm to us. Islam is a cult that should be outlawed in America and all other western nations.

  • dd121

    I thought Clinton included the plans in his Christmas card.

    • DNA Explains It All

      China used a variant of the “long march” (missile “fixed” for China by the Clintons and Loral Aerospace in the 90’s) to put that probe on the moon recently.

  • Truthseeker

    Diversity is a strength…for our enemies.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Yeah, I saw that on the inside of a defense contractor for 10 years. It’s criminal how it hurts the product and raises costs.

  • JohnEngelman

    Imagine someone on the Manhattan Project with dual citizenship in Nazi Germany.

    • Jesse James

      Imagine Jews and communists working on the Manhattan Project whose primary loyalty was to communism and the Soviet Union giving the bomb to Stalin.

      • Spartacus

        Imagine that…

        • So CAL Snowman

          Hey it’s my Uncle Julius and my Aunt Ethel.

    • So CAL Snowman

      Because Germany didn’t already have awesome technology like the Me-262 or the V2 rocket or the Panther tank. Besides America’s use of the bomb was an egregious crime against all of humanity that in no way, shape, or form helped us “win” Word War 2. IF the Germans had the bomb, perhaps Western Civilization would not be in shambles right now.

      • JohnEngelman

        The Hun is either at your throat, or at your feet.

        – Winston Churchill

        • So CAL Snowman

          I would figure YOU of all people would be appalled by the use of nuclear weapons against Asians. The fact of the matter is that Japan was finished and was ready and willing to negotiate its surrender. TPTB dropped the bomb to prevent the Russians from invading Japan and Asia minor and because they were curious (in a sick and demented way) about the destruction the bomb would cause. It also had a profound psychological effect on the entire world which helped the US become an imperial war machine.

        • dd121

          I thought recent genetic testing has shown that 1/3 of the English population is German (by way of the Saxon invasion. Haha

        • NoMosqueHere

          Don’t forget: Hitler had no use for religion but he was attracted to barbarism, hate, and criminality of Islam.

          • JohnEngelman

            Don’t forget: Hitler had no use for religion but he was attracted to barbarism, hate, and criminality of Islam.

            – NoMosqueHere

            ‘The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity’s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew.

            Adolf Hitler from “Hitler’s Table Talk.”

      • AndrewInterrupted

        Lots of projection there. There are several schools of thought concerning the psychological and strategic effect of those two bombs.

      • NoMosqueHere

        Einstein, Oppenheimer, and Teller were largely responsible for the bomb; all brilliant joooooooz. Had the Germans embraced their jooz instead of murdering them, then, yes, Germany would probably have become the world’s greatest superpower. Instead, they supported the genocidal maniac hitler, they endured defeat and disgrace, and the image of their country is tarnished FOREVER.

        • Bantu_Education

          Judging by the V2, the ME262 jet fighter, the ME163 rocket plane and many more things – German science didn’t seem to miss the Jews too much. They might even have got the A-bomb before the US if they could have got their hand on the materials and if they weren’t being bombed to hell and fighting on a dozen fronts.

        • Luca

          Over 100,000 people worked on the Manhattan Project. Were they all Jews?

          BTW did you ever hear of Enrico Fermi?

        • So CAL Snowman

          Werhner von Braun was certainly not jewish and he went on to head NASA and developed the Saturn V rocket. I’m thinking that if Germany won the war and all of their scientists weren’t confiscated by the USA (operation paperclip) that Germany would be the world leader in space travel and we would probably be on Mars right now.

          i know it’s hard to overcome the propaganda concerning the National Socialists but come on was HItler anymore genocidal than FDR or Truman or Churchill? Remember a city called Dresden? Does that ring a bell?

          • NoMosqueHere

            You must be joking of course.

      • Sheik Yerbouti

        If Japan had the ability to end the war with 2 bombs, do you think they would have hesitated the way the US did? Lots of Americans exist today because their grandfathers DIDN’T have to invade Japan. As one of them I don’t find the use of hat weapon to be “egregious at all. It was necessary and I don’t feel a gram of “guilt” for it.

      • emiledurk16

        Wonder if they’d be 26 million Muslims wrecking havoc and butchering British soldiers in Europe had things went differently. Don’t think so.

      • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

        If we had had to invade Japan, and they were not giving up, it would have required a million soldiers and Marines. The casualties would have been extremely high. Estimates also were that Japan would suffer a million casualties. Our firebombing of Tokyo killed more than the bombs did in Nagasaki and Hiroshima. But that was a crime against humanity. Japan should have seen trials like German did because they mass murdered all over the Southeaster Pacific an China. Not only that, but they broke every rule of the Geneva Convention where prisoners of war were considered and in running their camps. But the Japanese thought that we might have more so after the second one, they decided maybe it was time to quit. This is factual history. Your blab is a sin against truth and history as a discipline.

        You actually think that if the Nazis had used the bomb to conquer the Soviet Union that they would not have eventually rose up and struck back? it would have required lots of nukes to do it, too. You expose that you know very little about nuclear fallout. It’s good that you can only post your dimwitted opinions.

        • So CAL Snowman

          Of course the firebombing of Tokyo was terrible, but it wasn’t ONE SINGLE BOMB that leveled the city, it was leveled by conventional bombs. If you can’t understand the difference between ATOMIC BOMBS and conventional fire bombs that’s on you. Major General Curtis Le May is on record stating that the US didn’t need to drop the bombs to get Japan to surrender. Are you saying that you know more about the situation than General Le May?

    • dd121

      They would never have gotten a clearance. Yet the Eskimos unadmitted first loyalty is never questioned and they are given free reign throughout government and the halls of science.

    • emiledurk16

      I have a feeling we wouldn’t be in the straights we’re in now if that was the case.

  • DNA Explains It All

    F35 blueprints? I really wouldn’t worry too much about that. Building something that advanced would require decades of infrastructural advancement before Iran could do it even with the prints.

    • Martel

      This is how Pakistan got their A-bomb. I consider Pakistan a few steps below Iran on the scale of human evolution.

      • DNA Explains It All

        The F35 is more sophisticated than an A-bomb. Getting the super critical mass of weapons grade materials is the ONLY ISSUE there. There are many disciplines involved in putting an F35 together, especially from parts sourced in the country in question. It would be a bear of a job for Iran.

        • Brian

          They’d be willing to share the info with China for a price.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        That sounds sub-terranean

  • Mike

    Blood is thicker than water.

  • Thank God nobody will hire me for sensitive work anymore! As a convicted felon, I might be a “security risk”.

    • IstvanIN

      Yes, you seem like the type who would side up with the Arabs or Iranians or other assorted hooligans. I know i would trust Akmed over you!

  • bigone4u

    I had two Iranian colleagues in the economics department at the university. I recall asking myself over and over, “If war between the US and Iran breaks out, which side will they be on?” I also used to worry about them going on a shooting spree since they were volatile personalities. Ah, the joys of diversity, which I don’t miss in the least.

    PS The evil part is that they were hired over native-born Americans after the university falsely claimed it could not find an American to teach economics. Bull, bull, and more bull.

    • GeneticsareDestiny

      Being a college professor is a job Americans just won’t do, haven’t you heard? [/sarc]

  • John K

    Ah, yes, another one of those “peaceful” Muslims. Nothing will really come out of this because he’s just practicing his heritage and culture, and who are we evil crackers to put our national security above his feeeeeeeeelings?

  • 2eRep

    Kill him

  • IstvanIN

    There is a good reason why we generally trust those who look and sound like us, because ethnicity and race are just like a big extended family. Outsiders are more likely to cheat us, hurt us, or otherwise take advantage of us. Why do you think newcomers to the US used to Anglicize their names? To either 1) fit in (assimilation, like my family) or 2) to hide among us so they can cheat us (Eskimos). Of course, with an official multicultural policy, the newest of the newcomers don’t even have to try and blend in, they can just live openly among us and if they don’t get what they want, yell discrimination and the full weight of the federal government will crush a dissenters.

    In the old days a traitor to the US could be hanged because he was one of us. He couldn’t scream racism, because he was our race. But since 1953 traitors can now claim some sort of discrimination and get away with anything. Think about it.

    Diversity = death.

  • Luca

    Hindsight is always 20/20.

    • JohnEngelman

      President Truman should have asked his advisers whether it was necessary to use the atomic bomb. Generals Eisenhower and MacArthur were against it. So were Admiral Nimitz, and a few others.

      • Luca

        Maybe he studied the casualty rate for the battle of Okinawa and realized the Japanese culture of fighting to the last man and never surrendering even if the battle was lost and the situation was hopeless.

        He had plenty of advisers, they met many times and they advised him both ways. It was Truman’s choice to make and he made the right one (and believe me, I am no fan of Truman on other matters)

        In the end, by using the bombs it presented Japan with a reasonable excuse to surrender with honor. Not to mention the countless lives it actually saved by avoiding full time conventional carpet-bombing followed by a land invasion of the home islands of Japan.

        It also prevented the Soviets from invading Japan as they did in North Korea.

        • JohnEngelman

          The belief that the use of the atomic bomb was necessary to end World War II is a fixed idea that cannot be changed in the minds of those who hold it. According to the U.S. Strategic Bombing Survey, and American military leaders it was not necessary.

          • Luca

            It is a fixed idea and a rational idea based on the law of averages and probability. Allied casualty projections ran into the millions and for the Japanese military and civilians it was the many millions.

            Japanese culture prohibited surrender even under overwhelming circumstances and imminent defeat. To die, even by suicide, was more honorable than to surrender.

            Stick with race realism, your ability to use common sense and historical fact are hampered by the liberal education you received.

          • JohnEngelman

            Stick with race realism, your ability to use common sense and historical fact are hampered by the liberal education you received.

            – Luca

            I love to investigate different points of view. That should be obvious from my presence here. I am hardly a typical liberal.

          • Luca

            By your own admission, (and I am paraphrasing here) you a liberal who had race realism beat into you.

            Apparently you can only comprehend harsh lessons.

          • JohnEngelman

            Generally speaking I am conservative on social issues. I am in favor of legal abortion. My only concern about gay marriage is that I do not want the issue to hurt the Democratic Party. I have always disliked the sexual revolution, although I appreciate the role it seems to have played in reducing the birth rate.

            I am pessimistic about human nature. Consequently I agree with “Sociobiology, the New Synthesis,” by E.O. Wilson. I am pessimistic about human potential. Consequently I agree with “The Bell Curve,” by Richard Herrnstein and Charles Murray.

          • DudeWheresMyCountry?

            Nobody actually thinks that if you, the claim of investigating different points of view. You fail to see that the bomb(s) had an impact on the military movements of the Soviets during the denouement of WWII and most importantly saved probably over 100,000 Americans who weren’t forced to go street to street invading homeland Japan. Don’t try to hide… you would’ve sacrificed any number of Americans in order to prevent the bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima. I bet a Pearl Harbor discussion would yield comments from you about your concern for the Japanese loss of life that day.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            I heard estimates of American troop losses for a Japanese mainland invasion more in the 500,000 range. But, I’m sure that’s tough to nail down.

          • Jotun Hunter

            that is the last thing you ever do – even when somone has the effort to trounce your pathetic views. you are incapable of admitting defeat because you are a narcissist or just outright trolling to stir trouble

          • JohnEngelman

            My fact based and logical arguments are difficult to refute rationally, so posters like you engage in name calling, like “narcissist.”

            My arguments are not “trounced.” They are shouted at by those who are unable to debate in a civil manner.

            I would like to add that I frequently get my facts from this website.

          • Please provide us a reasonable alternative to the atom bombings.

          • JohnEngelman

            The United States could have waited several more months at least. The Japanese were not going anywhere. The United States could have announced that it had the atomic bomb, announced that it would demonstrate it on a lightly inhabited Japanese island, given Japanese time to evacuate the island, and exploded the bomb.

            If it came down to a choice between an invasion and using the bomb, then sure, we should have used the bomb. Nevertheless, there were alternatives.

  • That is a mockup.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Yes, it is. There are several images available of the real deal. The U.S. designed most of it. The Chinese are prolific technology thieves.

    • DNA Explains It All

      I agree, this thing has the shape, bet it’s performance is less than spec.

  • Brian

    General Casey speaking about the Ft. Hood muzzie killer Hasan:
    “I’m concerned that this increased speculation could cause a backlash
    against some of our Muslim soldiers. And I’ve asked our Army leaders to
    be on the lookout for that,” Casey told CNN’s “State of the Union.”

    “Our diversity, not only in our Army, but in our country, is a strength.
    And as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a
    casualty, I think that’s worse,” Casey said.
    ====

    The rot goes DEEP.

    • emiledurk16

      Is that bleeped up or what, Brian! A General ! “I’m concerned that this increased speculation could cause a backlash against some of our Muslim soldiers. And I’ve asked our Army leaders to be on the lookout for that,”

      Instead of asking our army leaders to lookout for Muslims in our military who remain loyal to their own people (which is natural) and who might act on that loyalty. This insane general would rather put HIS OWN MEN in jeopardy than do the common sense thing. Unreal.

      “Our diversity, not only in our Army, but in our country, is a strength.
      And as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a
      casualty, I think that’s worse,” Casey said.

      My God, that is absolute madness.
      I read somewhere about the PC quota insanity even at the once prestigious Air Force Academy. Naturally scores and requirements are lowered and the perversity of diversity reigns supreme even there.
      The rot does indeed go deep.

      • Brian

        Casey was not just a general; he was _the top general in the whole Army_ at the time. And he is telling us in plain English that the ‘culture of diversity’ is more important than the lives destroyed by Hasan.

        I’m still waiting to hear what benefits this Diversity brings to the table. What, concretely, precisely, exactly, specifically does a Magic Muzzie provide that a white man cannot do? Is there a whole in our national drywall that only Nidal Hasan can spackle over?

        NUTS!

  • Brian

    The UK doesn’t need ‘perverted science’ for a new dark age– their immigration policy is doing the job just fine. Too bad Drummer Lee Rigby missed out on those broad, sunlit uplands.

  • RisingReich

    Not to worry, since Boeing is all about the Diversity, this space age jet engineered by top black engineers can’t maintain cabin pressure at altitude, something Whites perfected back in Vietnam with the F-4.

  • JohnEngelman

    After withstanding German aggression in two world wars I think Churchill had more reason to complain bout the Germans.

    The idea that the world would be a better place if Hitler had won WW II is perverted and sick.

    • Cairdeas

      It is indeed as Patton had said of WWII: the wrong war at the wrong time with the wrong people. The Germans and British should not have been spilling Christian blood needlessly in a war orchestrated by the non-Eskimos. A major strike by Western European powers against the Judeo-Bolsheviks would have saved much grief in the 20th century.

      • Lt_Greyman_NVA

        Exactly. the focus of our efforts should have been the Soviets, who brought down all of Eastern Europe with their Marxist (Jewish) philosophy. The dead of the Ukraine, the Gulags and the Eastern Front can all be laid at the feet of one race.

    • I would rather the Kaiser had won the First.

      • Jotun Hunter

        me too

  • So CAL Snowman

    To hell with Winston Churchill. . . What makes you think this gutless puppet is any better than FDR, Truman, or any of the other so called “leaders” of that generation?

    • Luca

      Hitler could have destroyed the British at Dunkirk but let them slip away so he could later pursue a peace treaty with England.

      Churchill ignored the peace overtures and decided he would rather fight.

      • JohnEngelman

        Peace with Germany would have allowed Hitler to conquer the Slavic countries, depopulate the Slavs, replace them with Germans, and kill all the Jews. Jewish death would have exceeded ten million.

        The German empire in the West, and the Japanese empire in the East would have been evil and predatory.

        • Luca

          War should be avoided at all costs. Hitler knew he could not defeat the combined forces of England, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and America and was willing to negotiate. He knew America was a sleeping giant with unlimited resources, manpower and know-how.

          His goal was revenge and the reversal of the Treaty of Versailles, he wanted his land back after it was carved up by the allies in WW1.

          He also wanted room to grow (lebenstraum),he wanted ethnic/racial purity and he wanted to expel the social/political troublemakers in his land. He viewed the Jews as non-Germans, non-patriotic, parasitic aliens and that they had too much association with communists, trade unions, bank control, etc. and with their disproportionate influence in the arts and media they were corrupting the morals of the European people. He felt they belonged in the Middle-east.

          Unlike the popular propaganda we have been spoon fed, he did not want to rule the world.

          The Japanese were imperialistic and they wanted all of Asia and they preferred to fight for it and to subjugate all those they conquered.

          Hitler was not invading Poland for the sake of conquering them. He tried to peacefully negotiate the return of previously German land and especially the port city of Danzig (Gdansk).

          Hitler had little reason to use force so quickly but he justified it by showing that German minorities in Poland were being killed and persecuted. The Russians, on the other hand, had no justification for invading Poland two weeks later and you will rarely read anything about that in the Marxist propaganda they teach in the schools.

          The Liberal/Progressive Marxists own the schools, the media and Hollywood and you are too easily mesmerized by their version of the truth.

          • JohnEngelman

            If one wanted land and soil in Europe, then by and large this could only have been done at Russia’s expense…

            For such a policy, however, there was only one single ally in Europe: England…

            We must undertake every sacrifice which may help bring about a nullification of the French drive for European hegemony.

            – Adolf Hitler, from Mein Kampf

            ———-

            Hitler wanted Germany to conquer the mainland of Europe. He would have been successful if it had not been for the opposition of Great Britain and the United States.

            Great Britain and the United States could have avoided World War II. I am glad we participated, because I am glad Nazi Germany was crushed.

          • Luca

            He was perfectly willing to negotiate rather than conquer.

            He had agreements and/or peace treaties with Sweden, Denmark, Holland, Spain, Hungary, Finland, Italy, Vichy France, Denmark, Croatia, Slovakia, USSR, Austria, Montenegro, Bulgaria, Romania and a few more. With all these agreements and treaties he doesn’t sound like much of a conqueror now does he?

            He had tried to negotiate with Poland as early as 1934 but ultimately it all fell apart. A final meeting was requested by Ribbentrop late August 1939, between German, British and Polish diplomats to avoid war and the Poles never showed up for the meeting.

          • JohnEngelman

            Hitler violated the Munich Treaty by occupying all of Czechoslovakia. He violated his non aggression pact with the Soviet Union by invading the Soviet Union.

          • Jotun Hunter

            dont bother with him

          • DudeWheresMyCountry?

            The use of he word enrich is just further proof you are a troll. Move along to your destiny at sino renaissance or tribe renaissance. Not one person here at American Renaissance doesn’t think your just trolling.

          • JohnEngelman

            Hostility to Jews and Orientals sickens me. I will respond.

          • Jotun Hunter

            another quote engeljew – youre on fire! if ONLY you had a copy of hitlers SAT scores you could balloon your smugness levels and drift into the stratosphere

          • JohnEngelman

            At one time in his life Hitler took an IQ test and scored 141.

        • Lt_Greyman_NVA

          No. Hitler never wanted to conquer Russia or the Slavic Countries. Since the Slavic countries were conquered by Russia ANYWAY, with them suffering total social collapse in the exhaustion of the Soviet. How would an expanded Germany been any worse?

          • JohnEngelman

            If one wanted land and soil in Europe, then by and large this could only have been done at Russia’s expense…

            When we talk about new soil and territory in Europe today, we can think primarily only of Russia and its vassal border states.

            – Adolf Hitler, from Mein Kampf

        • Jotun Hunter

          childish words like ‘evil’ come easy to liberals with womanish, irrational arguments based on sentimentality and fear

          • JohnEngelman

            I have no fear of the meritocratic, multi ethnic, and multi racial society the United States is evolving into. You do.

    • JohnEngelman

      Winston Churchill and Franklin Roosevelt were great leaders of towering significance. Adolf Hitler was evil.

      • Luca

        Hitler was a political genius, a military fool and a realist. In the end, he became desperate, corrupt and delusional. He became a tyrant which is the normal result of too much power and control.

        • JohnEngelman

          Hitler was an effective orator, but his speeches lose in translation, as really great speeches do not.

          • Luca

            I like his prophetic Saarbruecken speech of Oct. 1938 whereby he he mentions that if the Churchill came to power in England, Churchill’s aim would be to start a war.

          • JohnEngelman

            The Second World War could have been prevented during the German occupation of the Rhineland in 1936. German military leaders had orders to retreat at the first sign of military resistance. I doubt Hitler could have survived the humiliation of backing down.

            I have also read that German military leaders were prepared to overthrow Hitler if the Allies had stood firm at Munich in 1938.

            If Winston Churchill had been Prime Minister in 1936 there would have been no war in Europe. It would have been easier for Great Britain, the Soviet Union, and the United States to force Japan out of China.

          • Truth Teller

            “The Second World War could have been prevented during the German occupation of the Rhineland in 1936.”

            It could have been prevented if the US had not intervened in the first world war. Had the US stayed out of it, the allies and central powers would have fought to a stalemate. The resulting peace would not have humiliated the Germans and Hitler would be an unknown in modern society. Further, the Soviets likely would not have been able to conquer Eastern Europe, which would have meant a reduced Cold War, and, perhaps, no Korean or Vietnam War. China possibly would have been saved from communism and would be an ally of the United States.

            The lesson from WW2 is not to “stand up to dictators” (we just swapped one for another) but not to create them in the first place.

      • Bantu_Education

        You always claim you like to explore different ways of thinking, but by saying “Hitler was evil” you are behaving like an unthinking liberal automaton. Does this sound like an “evil” man?

        Non-smoker
        Non-drinker
        Vegetarian
        Didn’t play around with women
        Loved nature
        Loved children and animals.
        banned animal experimentation
        Extremely courteous to women
        Advocated cancer research
        Never allowed statues of himself, unlike Stalin
        promoted science and technology

        These are just a few of the positive things I have heard about him – I am no expert or Hitler worshipper and I doubt I would have liked to go for a drink (lol) with him, but…

        Whenever the media and the powers that be are unanimous in slandering someone or something as “totally evil” and claim that that person or idea has no redeeming qualities at all and nobody is permitted to say otherwise – you should be suspicious of their motives. Take “Apartheid” for example – nobody ever has a good word to say for it and anyone who dares do so would be savagely vilified. If you believe Hitler was evil then you are not an original thinker at all – in fact you are not even a thinker…!!!

        • JohnEngelman

          That is all very nice and good. Unfortunately, it does not compensate for starting the Second World War in the west, and ordering the Holocaust.

      • Jotun Hunter

        and did roosevelt save the fairy princess from the dragon? stimulating rhetoric engeljew

        • JohnEngelman

          More name calling, although I readily acknowledge my love for Jews, Judaism, and Israel.

      • Jotun Hunter

        god you are pathetic – you think like a little girl and posture like you’re Machiavelli

    • Jotun Hunter

      engelman and his tiresome quotes – he thinks hes won an argument when hes found a snippet online – churchhill must be the very voice of god to him. I’m sure mr. churchill would be doing much backpedaling if he took one look at our modern world… the weak and perverted nature of which he could scarcely have guessed possible – I dont think youd find him cowardly voicing the ‘superiority’ of jews and asians because of their SAT scores – churchill would have the nerve and the intelligence to stand up for his own people and not join the brown mob because the road ahead is daunting.

  • Massif1

    How in the world this man had a clearance with dual citizenship?

  • Tarczan

    If that were correct, why didn’t they surrender after the first bomb? Why did it take two?

    • JohnEngelman

      The bombings were three days apart. They did not have enough time to respond to the first one.

      • Luca

        The Emperor of Japan had the resources and brainpower to dial a phone. Any rational person inclined to stop the bombing would have done so within 15 minutes.

        • JohnEngelman

          Hirohito was at most a constitutional monarch. He shared power with Japanese military leaders like Tojo who wanted to continue the war even after the second bomb was dropped.

          • Luca

            As usual, you answered a question that was not asked. I never mentioned Tojo.

            Hirohoto was the equivalent of a God to the Japanese people, please don’t try to make it seem like he shared power with Tojo. He had the final say and made the right decision, although he should have made it sooner.

            You would have made an excellent liberal revisionist history teacher. Your recounting of historical facts border on delusional.

        • Japanese rule even then was by consensus. Their army generals wanted to continue the war even after the imperial navy had been obliterated and the nation was starving. It took a shock like the atom bombings to allow the Japanese military junta the excuse of allowing the emperor to surrender. Even then there was an abortive coup.

      • NoMosqueHere

        Too bad. The japs started a war with us and brutalized our troops at every opportunity. They paid the price; they should have known better than to mess with us.

        • emiledurk16

          They tortured our men in the Bataan Death March and we put their guys temporarily in country club “internment camps”.
          And to the mentally deranged multiculturalists we’re the bad guys.

  • Sheik Yerbouti

    What they didn’t know was that the US only had 2 bombs. It would have taken months to build more. It was a gamble.

    • Bantu_Education

      That explains why they dropped the 2nd one so soon after the first – they wanted to convey the impression they had dozens. They also wanted the Jap surrender before the Soviets had gobbled up too much of NE Asia. The Koreans (half of them) were lucky that the US somehow convinced the Soviets to stop at the 38th parallel, they expected them to take the entire peninsula. It was a bluff.

      • The 38th parallel was agreed to at Yalta.

        • Bantu_Education

          Do you have evidence for that? How would they have known in 1943 that the Soviets would even enter the war against Japan and even if they did that they would get that far? Seems improbable to me. Anyway my source was a British-made documentary on the Korean War which claimed it was a spontaneous suggestion by the US when they saw the Soviets rushing south much faster than they had expected. According to this they suggested – none too hopefully – that the Soviets should stop at the 38th parallel. They were surprised when they agreed.

  • John

    This guy must have been in a hurry. All he had to do was was for the Israeli’s to steal them, sell them to China who in turn, would have sold them to the highest bidder (conceivably Iran).

  • Lt_Greyman_NVA

    The damage this kind of thing will do to us in incalculable. H1B visas deliver vast amounts of information to the lower races who then transfer it back to their homeland. Much of this information they can’t use or simply can’t reproduce, but the the dangers is that they will find a weakness in the F-35 (think DeathStar) or will find a weakness in the musings of engineers over ANY technology. Electronics, drugs and drug manufacturing, Biology, nuclear weapons and power generation tech, computer hacking and security penetration, sensors and rocket science are areas where the more primitive vacuum up our tech. We ignore this crap because we are a “propositional Nation” and therefore we don’t protect White Tech, while the Chinese or the Israeli or the Iranian are free to come here, learn and go back to their lands with the fruit of our minds.

  • Lt_Greyman_NVA

    What would Winston say now, with communism rampant in Europe and America, illegals flooding all the White nations, Islam in ascendancy and central governments and banks run by a particular Tribe.
    National Socialism wanted none of these things. Frankly if Hitler had Won WWII, Whites would have been better off.

    • JohnEngelman

      As a ruling ideology Communism is a dead faith.

      The Jews owe their prominence in finance and other areas requiring superior intelligence to their superior intelligence.

  • JohnEngelman

    Germany invaded Poland, starting World War II.

  • emiledurk16

    After reading paragraph 1, I wondered of the name of the
    perpetrator.(Joseph Smith or Frank Denunzio maybe).Paragraph 2 removed all doubts. Mozaffar Khazaee. Can’t quite remember the FortHood killer. Was it Bobby Jones, Steve LaZinski, Robert McDonough?Wait a minute: Nidal Malik Hasan

    Not condoning these dudes at all, but one thing I can say is they’re
    loyal to their people and not messed up with this warped PC ideology of
    multiculturalism, egalitarianism, ect.

    Can’t same the same for misguided and deranged whites who made Barrack
    Hussein Obama their president and the white hating Eric “my people” Holder the
    AG. Can you imagine a white politician saying “my people”?

    Sickening. Recently watched Spencer’s speech at the last conference. A
    white ethno-state on the continent. The only answer.

  • JohnEngelman

    That is pure speculation. The United States and Great Britain could have avoided World War II. However, peace with Nazi Germany would have been an armed truce that Hitler would have broken at any time if he wanted to, just as he violated the Munich Treaty by occupying all of Czechoslovakia, and just as he violated the non aggression pact with the Soviet Union by invading the Soviet Union.

    With the V 2 the Germans invented the first ballistic missile. With that, it was only a matter of time until they developed intercontinental ballistic missiles that could have hit the United States. Without the pressure of war the United States would probably not have started the Manhattan Project. Germany may have developed the atomic bomb first.

    The Germans also developed the first cruise missile. They tried to use it to stop the invasion of Salerno. Fortunately, Allied intelligence learned about it in advance of the invasion, and jammed radio broadcasts to it.

    • Jotun Hunter

      and you arent speculating somehow with your biased history because yoy sourced a few quotes that loosely support your views? i could probably handle you engelman if yoy at least had the actual smarts to back your smug self-importance. thats the way it goes with guys like you – you suffer from an exaggerated abd unwarranted confidence .

      • JohnEngelman

        I suffer from your unwarranted arrogance.

        • Jotun Hunter

          you’re extremely clever the way you can only think to say 1) the same thing over and over again or 2) repeat back to me the very same accusations I make.

          you certainly have a jews lack of proper creativity – whatever you are

    • Those glide bombs off Salerno were the FX-1400 and HS-293. Two hits by the FX-1400 blew the Italian battleship “Roma” in half while she was steaming to Malta to be interned by the British. Three turned HMS “Warspite” into a wreck. One almost sank the cruiser USS “Savannah”, passing through “B” turret and exploding under the ship. The only thing that saved her was the massive inrush of seawater put out the magazine fire before the ship could blow up. The British cruiser HMS “Spartan” was sunk by a single HS-293. Unlike the FX-1400, this one was rocket-boosted.

  • Charles W.

    It’s too bad he didn’t succeed.

  • emiledurk16

    I think the Kamikazes reflected the resolve of the Japanese. It took the prospect of near annihilation to evoke the surrender.

  • emiledurk16

    I think it was an “unconditional” surrender that the Japanese would never had done.

  • Tom Girouard

    Our Political Correctness , will be out Achilles Heal . We are a victim of our open society and it will truly be the downfall of America . He’s been to Iran , seven times , how much has this man already given them . God help us in spite of our own stupidity .

  • I have a master’s in chemical engineering and worked for a guy who won the Nobel Award in chemistry. I’m a American & my father served in WW-II (flew B-25’s & 17’s in the Pacific).

    Despite being hard working, being smarter, and being more competant I simply can’t get a job like this: working for a defense contractor. They’re simply not interested in US scientists.

    Now I know some people here will say that foreign H1B workers are just so much more competant than US scientists. My experience has been otherwise. Also how clueless can you be to be caught for espionage trying to smuggle 44 boxes of top secret plans to Iran? Hello! Iran is on a restricted countries list: don’t try to send a couple truck loads of documents there, don’t accept large bundles of cash money from there, and don’t go backpacking along the Iran/ Iraqi border.

    I don’t see why everybody thinks these foreign scientists are so exceptional that they should be hired for this type of work and US scientists never given a chance. After all our 2nd generation planes completely outflew the Zero in the Pacific in WW-2. We didn’t have to import Japanese plane designers back then to do it either!