Obamacare’s Latino Push May Give Democrats Political Edge

Alison Vekshin, Bloomberg, September 30, 2013

The battle over Obamacare is taking on political importance as Democrats hope a successful roll-out among Hispanics will further bind those voters to the Democratic Party and undermine Republican efforts to build more support before the 2016 presidential election.

In California, where Hispanics will outnumber whites within a year, backers of the Affordable Care Act are ramping up outreach in places like Richmond, a San Francisco Bay Area city whose population is almost 40 percent Hispanic and where about 18 percent of residents live below the poverty line.

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Hispanic voters backed Barack Obama over Republican challenger Mitt Romney 71 percent to 27 percent in 2012.

About 61 percent of Hispanics approve of the health-care law, compared with 29 percent of whites and 91 percent of blacks, according to a Pew Research Center and USA Today survey conducted Sept. 4-8. {snip}

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A threatened U.S. government shutdown and a growing list of delays involving new exchanges may not make potential enrollees more confident. While the shutdown won’t stop the exchange roll-out, which is largely funded through mandatory appropriations that can’t be curtailed by congressional inaction, it’s an open question whether it will lessen public enthusiasm to enroll. {snip}

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“Ultimately, a large number of Latinos will enroll and they’ll overwhelmingly like it,” Gary Segura, a political science professor at Stanford University, said in an interview.

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The $1.4 trillion Affordable Care Act seeks to extend coverage to most of the nation’s 50 million uninsured. Coverage begins in January, and most people will be required to have public or private health coverage or pay the higher of 1 percent of their annual income or $95, a penalty that grows to 2.5 percent of income or $695 by 2016. A network of insurance exchanges where consumers can buy subsidized plans, the core part of the 2010 Affordable Care Act, opens tomorrow.

Latinos represent 46 percent of the 2.6 million California residents eligible for subsidized coverage, said Santiago Lucero, a spokesman for Covered California, which runs the state insurance exchange.

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  • [Guest]

    What’s to be learned here, that “diversity” means the same thing as anti-white?

    Anybody with any sense already knows that.

    • Manaphy

      It also once again negates Lindsey Graham’s idea that Hispanics are social conservatives.

      • NorthSea

        The words “Lindsey Graham” and “idea” look funny in the same sentence.

      • [Guest]

        Yeah, and I’m sure that a whole lot of us recognized that lie as a lie the first time we heard it.

      • Sick of it

        Graham himself is not a conservative, so why should his ideas regarding who would be a social conservative be considered seriously?

  • Luca

    So blacks and hispanics are overwhelmingly in favor of yet another “free” program funded on the backs of working Whites??

    Wow, i didn’t see that one coming,

    • Whitetrashgang

      Black and brown privilege, brought to you by the tribe.

    • evilsandmich

      Everything will be free, and we will own nothing.

  • Okay, but California is already safe solid blue territory. And you don’t need to convince most Hispanic voters on the “wisdom” of a welfare program, that’s instinctive to them.

    Hispanics were only 8.4% of all voters in last year’s Presidential election, and Presidential elections are high turnout cycles for minority voters. Assume that only 20% of Hispanic voters are truly swing voters, in that 60% are yellow dog Democrats, 20% are yellow dog
    Republicans and the rest could go either way. This means that a BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG 1.68% of the electorate consists of swingable Hispanics. Which means that swingable Hispanics have almost no leverage in any election.

    Meanwhile, I estimate that 25% of all voters are swingable whites.

    25% is more than 1.68%.

    Keep on pushing, Obama.

  • William Krapek

    Coming from a liberal/Keynesian/technical position I just didn’t understand the hatred for Obamacare coming from the right. But since in America today we’re not allowed to talk about race – and I now do at sites like amren – I see what you guys are talking about. In a fully white country national healthcare makes all the sense in the world ; a simple matter of throwing more people into the pig pile to make it cheaper for each little piggie. Standard risk management. Whites take care of body and soul and produce more so it looks great and works like a charm.

    In multicultural Amerika, however, it amounts to a byzantine shakedown. More people putting in less and not taking care of their bodies and minds and therefore drawing more out with chronic conditions.

    This is not going to do anything but bleed white wallets.

    • I just didn’t understand the hatred for Obamacare coming from the right

      Three times as much for health care that’s not as good, companies laying off to stay under x number of employees to get out of the employer mandate, employers cutting employees back to 29 hours a week for the same reason. I presume that you’re not in a situation where you’ll have to comply with the monstrosity.

      Some of us “hate,” i.e. we pay attention.

      • William Krapek

        Those arguments have not been demonstrated. The transfer of wealth certainly has been.

        • I experienced the 29 hour argument first hand from November of last year to July of this year. If nothing changes, I’ll be experiencing the brunt of the individual mandate starting January 1.

          I wouldn’t wish ObamaCare qua ObamaCare on even a pure white ethnonationalist country.

          • William Krapek

            Well in all fairness to liberals they wanted Medicare for all. Obamacare came out of the Heritage Foundation. Liberals call it ‘Romneycare’ for a reason.

          • Bad legislation is still bad legislation, no matter who proposed it. And you wonder why we’re not saying “President Romney” today. His lack of credibility in proposing a monstrous piece of legislation he helped enact in miniature form in his state is one of any number of reasons.

          • Alfred the Great

            You’re correct. Socialism never works, regardless of race.

      • robinbishop34

        “Some of us “hate,” i.e. we pay attention.”

        I love this. May I steal it?

        • I kinda borrowed it from Sailer, so yes, you may steal my stolen meme.

          • robinbishop34

            We aren’t stealing, we’re being resourceful 😉

    • Nathanwartooth

      Liberals think they can use non Whites to create a liberal utopia.

      Little do they realize the only people who are able to create a thriving liberal state with tons of handouts is to have a homogenous group that is part of the 100 IQ club.

      • William Krapek

        It’s not about utopia it’s about risk management. These social programs worked fine in Europe and Canada. But for the last few decades – as their population has been displaced by invaders – their systems have started to unravel.

        • Stentorian_Commentator

          So, might you agree that the examples of socialized medicine in Europe and Canada, to the extent they have been successful, have been examples of national socialism, as opposed to pure leftist socialism? I have come to that conclusion. I think it also supports the relative success of kibbutzim in Israel (besides getting suckers like Michele Bachman to work for them for free). People with minimal dysfunction who have a sense of shame/honor about not indulging in dysfunction, might also be willing to sacrifice if they view the beneficiaries of their sacrifice as their own.

        • Ella

          There are too many irresponsible people in the USA to pay a FAIR share of their costs. Skin colour, economics and citizen status will determine who pays the costs and others receive exemptions. I also don’t want to pay for the 49% obesity rates among Blacks. CDC reports, “In 2009- 2010 Mexican American children, between
          ages 6-17, were 60% more likely to be overweight as Non-Hispanic
          White Children.”

          • William Krapek

            A little off topic, but obesity is a strange thing. Even animals are getting fatter – including research chimps in carefully controlled environments. As for health, there’s no connection between obesity and longevity in women. As for men, the longest lived are the ones who are overweight (not obese) and burn at least 2000 calories a week in exercise.

            Strange stuff.

          • Ella

            The main reason for their weight gain is lacking predators, except for humans, who hunt them for food. I think animals are also restricted more in the their habitat from overpopulation by humans. Oddly, I sometimes wonder if White people avoid children because of the physical work out around running toddlers. Having family does not mix with heavy TV and computer time.

        • Sick of it

          They’ve been so successful that people in Canada and Britain hate their national healthcare systems and come to the U.S. when they need surgery. If they have the money, of course. Poor people are left to die under nationalized healthcare.

          • William Krapek

            Don’t believe that propaganda. Europeans live longer and better. They’re even taller than we are now.

          • ThomasER916

            If Europe shared a border with Mexico, they’d be shorter, fatter, and dumber too. Americans aren’t any of those things. Mexicans are still all of those things. You’d think people who claim to be race realists would figure this out.

          • William Krapek

            This is true for all Americans and all Europeans across all classes. Including the top class.

          • Whitetrashgang

            You are correct ,being in the medical field you see it every day in Canada.

        • Sentinel9

          I wouldn’t go so far as to say they worked fine, but they certainly work better in a white country, and, as you say, Obamacare is largely a transfer of wealth from whites to non-whites.

    • melissa236

      Given past examples of Government run programs we would know that any new government run program will be crap.

      • Sick of it

        Considering the idiots in government, it’s not much of a surprise.

    • JohnEngelman

      Low income whites frequently oppose domestic spending programs that will help them if those programs also help non whites.

      • Earl Turner

        That’s called integrity.

        • JohnEngelman

          I think it is just plain stupid.Rich Republicans do not oppose business subsidies.

          • ThomasER916

            They don’t oppose mass Muslim immigration either. What’s your point again?

          • JohnEngelman

            The Republican Party exists in order to advance the economic interests of the richest ten percent of the country. Since 1980 they have been very successful at advancing those interests.

            I can understand why low income white Republicans support Republican stands on crime and punishment. I think it is foolish for whites who are not given health coverage at work, and who cannot afford to pay for health insurance to oppose the President’s health plan.

          • ThomasER916

            Hardly. The richest 10% are primarily Democrats. The richest Congressmen are primarily Democrats. Other than Marxist slogans, there isn’t a single metric supporting you.

            You should read Gottfried. He got part of it right.

    • Brian

      I agree. Something like Obamacare can work, in spite of the usual gov’t inefficiency, in a white nation. If I can look at a stranger who got sick and think ‘there but for the grace of God go I’, I don’t mind paying. Same thing for other safety net programs– as long as it’s a temporary net instead of a hammock for a permanent underclass, I’m cautiously okay with it. As things stand now, though, we know who will pay and who will get paid, and I come up short on that. No more.

  • Spartacus

    “Communism is the organized mutiny of quantity over quality.”

    George Lincoln Rockwell

    • John Ulfsson

      Probably one of my top three favorite people.

    • JohnEngelman

      From what I have read about members of the American Nazi Party, and from what I have learned first hand about members of the American Communist Party I will say that the later groups were a better quality of human. The CPUSA members I have known have been intelligent and well informed.

      Although I disagreed with them on basic issues, we could discuss disagreements with civility. I doubt I would be able to do this with a member of the American Nazi Party, or the Klu Klux Klan.

      • Spartacus

        That’s because real men get angrier faster than weaklings .

        On the flipside, those people who are talking very calmly and “civilized” would send you to the gulag if they ever come to power .

        • JohnEngelman

          That’s because real men get angrier faster than weaklings .

          – Spartacus

          That depends on how you define “real men,” and whether being a “real man” by your definition is worth while.

          Anger is part of the more primitive brain. It had survival value for our ancestors when they were less intelligent, but the problems those ancestors faced were simpler to deal with. If they could be solved, they could usually be solved by a burst of adrenalin.

          In a civilized environment one frequently faces problems that are too complex to be solved by the superior strength and speed anger gives one temporarily.

          This is particularly true when you have to deal with someone with greater economic or legal power. If your boss yells at you in front of co-workers, and orders you to come into his office you will probably be fired if you yell back, and you will almost certainly be arrested if you fight him.

          Responding angrily to a police officer will be even more dangerous, especially if the anger provokes a violent response.

          In dealing with situations like this it is better to think about what the situation is, and what one’s options are. Anger will interfere with that.

          Moreover, by responding calmly to a dangerous situation one projects an appearance of relaxed command.

          • Spartacus

            “Anger is part of the more primitive brain. It had survival value for our
            ancestors when they were less intelligent, but the problems those
            ancestors faced were simpler to deal with.”

            —————————————————————————————-

            I think the term you’re looking for is “different” . I assure you there’s nothing simple about surviving in the wild with stone-age technology. You probably couldn’t do it…

            And what I meant to say is that people who are phisically stronger tend to be more straight-forward and aggressive(not necessarily violent), while people who are not tend to over-compensate by being crueler in positions of power .

          • I disagree. It’s the guys who take a good, long time to get angry whom one needs to watch out for.

        • JohnEngelman

          On the flipside, those people who are talking very calmly and “civilized” would send you to the gulag if they ever come to power .

          – Spartacus

          Perhaps, but this is as true for a Gestapo agent as for one working for the NKVD.

          I can easily imagine a Gestapo agent calmly telling me as he adjusts items on his desk, “So you vill not talk, eh Herr Engelman? Vell, ve of de Gestapo haff vays ob making people talk.”

          • Spartacus

            The Gestapo dealt with people who were openly trying to subvert the state, or were otherwise a threat to it, while the rest of the German people had one of the highest standards of life in the world.

            The NKVD on the other hand arrested people over things like having too many books in their homes, or going regularly to church, and everybody in the Soviet Union was dirt poor .

          • JohnEngelman

            You seem to have forgotten about the Jews the Gestapo rounded op.

            The Soviet government lifted Russia from semi feudalism to the space age. The Nazi government left Germany in the ruins of an unnecessary, unprovoked, and immoral war that Germany most assuredly deserved to lose.

          • Spartacus

            Jews were an entity that wanted to destroy Germany, hence they were included in the “subversives” category. And it wasn’t even all of the jews, you forget about 120.000 jews served in the Wehrmarcht and the SS .

          • JohnEngelman

            How did Jews want to destroy Germany?

            How do you know that 120,000 Jews served in the Wehrmacht and the SS?

            Please document your response with credible sources.

          • Jeff O

            This guy is a romanian slav. Yet he supports the nazi ideology, which asserted that slavs were inferior to aryans. The nazis were not pro white. They were pro aryan. They killed millions of white non aryans and, moreover, needlessly caused the deaths of millions of german aryans by provoking a suicidal war with America.

            If this guy was in America during WWII, he would have been arrested and shot.

          • Spartacus

            Romanians are NOT slavs. When the hell will you people get this ?

          • ThomasER916

            What I’ve come to discover is consistently when someone is pro-Jewish they’re also anti-white. You being to see it more and more with every conversation online, when the filters are down. I’m going to highlight one of Engleman’s comments above just to illustrate.

          • JohnEngelman

            Romania was an ally of Germany during the Second World War.

            If it had not been for the Nazis and the Second World War I doubt the civil rights legislation would have been signed. The Nazis discredited the idea that differences between the races were important, or even that innate differences exist.

            Even now race realists are told that our ideas are similar to those of the Nazis.

          • Spartacus

            “Many people assume that there were no Jews in the Wehrmacht . Rigg adequately
            proves that this is far from the truth. “Although the exact number of
            Mischlinge who fought for Germany during World War II cannot be determined,
            they probably numbered more than 150,000.” (Rigg, Mark. Hitler’s Jewish
            Soldiers, University Press of Kansas, 2002) Rigg came to this number
            by searching through hundreds of German documents which listed names of
            men in the army with ‘half-Jewish’ ancestry, as well as lists of exemptions
            for these Mischlinge. If this number is correct, the question arises as
            to why these Mischlinge would help to fight for a regime that openly persecuted
            them? Rigg tries to answer that question by answering other questions
            and issues such as, who is a Jew? Who is a Mischling? Jewish assimilation
            in Germany, a history of German and Austrian Jews who served in their
            countries’ armed forces, the regulations for Jews and Mischling in the
            Wehrmacht, and official exemptions from racial persecution offered by
            Hitler himself.”

            Source :

            http://www(DOT)history(DOT)ucsb(DOT)edu/faculty/marcuse/classes/33d/projects/jewishlife/JewishSoldiersMark(DOT)htm

          • JohnEngelman

            That website does not mention Jews or Mischling. Mischling were people with some Jewish ancestry. A few seem to have served in the Wehrmacht, but your figure of 120,000 is exaggerated. To serve in the SS one had to prove no Jewish ancestry to 1750.

          • Spartacus

            Hitler’s Jewish
            Soldiers by Mark Rigg documents more 150.000 . So my figure is not exaggerated, quite the opposite.

          • ThomasER916

            “How did Jews want to destroy Germany?”

            Sparticist Uprising
            Frankfurt School
            Soviet apparatchiks and agents

            There’s a couple decades.

          • JohnEngelman

            If the Sparticust Uprising had been successful, and the Nazi movement smothered in the crib, the world would have been much better off.

          • ThomasER916

            Yeah because the destruction of Germany by Marxist Jews makes the world better. Tikkun Olam!

          • ThomasER916

            Anyone with a modicum of intelligence would understand why there were so many former WW1 German Soldier supporting the Nazis. When the Sparticists were killed it’s safe to assume there were Germans who witnessed the Uprising and killed the rioters. . So when the Frankfurt School started using Cultural Marxist to destroy German Culture and identity, to poison and corrupt the minds of their children, and to seize all German property for a Marxist elite they remembered.

            Some people need to pretend the Sparticist Uprising never happened. They’re the same people that are moderators at Amren. That’s part of the problem. When you’re censored you come to the immediate conclusion that your censors are “in on it.” Whether it’s true or not.

      • evilsandmich

        I’ve known commies like that too: so smart that they can convince themselves of the logic of any number of bad ideas. It might make for good conversation, but it makes for bad governance.

  • mobilebay

    A newspaper article yesterday emphatically denied that illegals will be covered by Obamacare. However, when they present themselves at an ER, they must be treated, so what’s the difference? And guess who still pays for it? There will be marches this Saturday all over this country by illegals who think they are etitlled to everything usually reserved for citizens. I’m sure getting Obamacare will be on their list of demands

    • Bossman

      Isn’t it better to let immigrants pay into the system even if they are not documented? Health care in the USA is still an insurance system. ER is completely inferior care.

      • Sentinel9

        With third party payment what is on paper insurance is closer to a mere accounting system.

      • Greg Thomas

        Nothing is stopping illegal invaders from buying health insurance right now. However, we all know these parasites would prfer to game the system so they don’t pay a dime. They should have included a provison in the Afforfable Health Care act which prohibts free health care for invaders who pop into an emergency room to seek treatment.

      • Brian

        No, because it normalizes them and they won’t pay in enough to make a difference anyway. If you divide the total cost of healthcare in the US by the total number of hours Americans work, it’s about $12/hr. How many illegals even make this wage?

  • Speaking of immigration.

    Are we being played?

    Is the staredown over ObamaCare a controlled burn to distract from amnesty?

    See Drudge right now for a story that’s at the top of the middle column.

    Boehner developing a spine all of a sudden on ObamaCare did seem to me to be suspiciously sudden.

    I’ve never believed that amnesty is dead. Not with all the plutocrats and zillionaires that want it more than anything in the whole wide world.

    I can see a quiet behind the curtains grand bargain going something like this: Obama agrees to some major holes being punched into ObamaCare or some long term forbearance of the most egregious measures of it in exchange for some sort of amnesty.

    Taketh your eyes off the ball not.

    Keep your phone calls going — About immigration.

  • Nathanwartooth

    The country is broke. Let’s just print off another trillion or so and just make it free. Does it really matter if our debt is 17 trillion or 40 trillion?

  • ThomasER916

    What we’re witnessing is the new Latin America. Mestizos, like blacks, do not have the capacity to understand where wealth comes from. As a result, they’ve become a Cargo Cult that lives off the welfare and prosperity of whites. Whites believe in the myth of equality, which deludes and shames them with White Guilt and the lie of institutional racism. In time America will end up like Brazil. The whites will fence themselves off in an attempt to maintain ethnic identity.

    The problem is Amren is they refuse to name the Jew. They’ll talk about “whites” as the cause of their own problems, Marxists as an anti-white ideology, but they refuse to name the Jew. If we can’t talk about all of the causes then there’s simple no for a future where we don’t repeat what happened in Rhodesia (Benjamin Disraeli) or South Africa (Litvaks). We can talk about ourselves and so-called minorities but not the so-called “chosen.” Some animals are more equal.

    • IstvanIN

      I get the treason of the Litvaks in SA, but what did Disraeli do to Rhodesia?

      • ThomasER916

        People need to think about what was happening in Parliament at the time. Oaths to Christ were abolished as Jews worked their way into government. Within short order British were plundering whites rather than colonizing savage areas. If you want to talk about Disraeli using whites to kill and plunder from other whites we usually end up talking about the First Boer War. There’s more to the story.

        Ever wonder why whites have no power in Zimbabwe but Jews still control the diamond industry? Just as Disraeli took South Africa from prosperous whites and empower Jews to exploit a white country , he was working to do the same in Rhodesia. Benjamin Disraeli used the British whites to create an ethnic market for the Jews in the diamond industry, though it crystallized after his death. De Beers company was created by Rhodes but the ethnic networking of Jews within Britain took the spoils.

        The Jews didn’t magically appear in South Africa or control the diamond industry in Rhodesia. First they needed whites to do the real work then they took over from the top and replaced the whites at the bottom with blacks. Tim Wise wants the same thing to happen here in America.

    • Sick of it

      Well read people, such as Jared Taylor, know where Marxism came from.

  • MekongDelta69

    91 percent of blacks, 61 percent of Hispanics, and 29 percent of whites approve of the Affordable Care Act.”

    And 91 percent of blacks, 61 percent of Hispanics, and 29 percent of whites are complete idiots.

    • Stentorian_Commentator

      It’s also a good proxy ratio that 9% of blacks, 39% of Hispanics, and 71% of whites will be paying for others on Obamacare.

    • Ella

      The Whites who voted for Obama hoped to get something for free or cheaper. Most Whites do agree that we need some medical insurance reform but we still object to Obamacare due to lobbyist /monopoly involvement, massive 17 trillion dollar debt, illegals, and the many minorities who will never pay any share of the real medical costs (favouritism).

      • ThomasER916

        I wish I could agree with you but that’s not the case. The rich whites voted for Obama while the middle class whites voted for Romney. The middle class whites suffer the most from tax raises and government programs. Middle whites pay the taxes, get zero benefits, and are forced to live next to Negro Project Homes and into public schools. Upper-middle class and higher whites are immune to this. Their homes are too expensive and their clout is too high to rezone their community for projects. Their schools aren’t private but don’t have to be. They can vote for Obama and feel nothing.

    • Brian

      In my general life experience, those percentages sound right on the money.

  • IstvanIN

    91% of blacks, 61% of hispanics and 29% of Whites are net tax consumers.

    • Stentorian_Commentator

      Oops, sorry, I did not notice that you had made my point already.

      • IstvanIN

        To different ways of looking at the same looming disaster.

    • John Ulfsson

      Source for that? Not doubting it, but I’d like to cite in in debates / arguments.

  • bigone4u

    Most Hispanics believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the tooth fairy–good things magically appear out of nowhere. They are unsophisticated thinkers unable to grasp how a change in government policy can have negative side affects. Lower quality health care, rationing by long wait times, and “death panels” (yes, a real possibility) don’t compute in their simple minds. Whereever Mexicans go, Mexico with all its dysfunction is not far behind.

    • Ella

      We can travel to Mexico or Costa Rica for medical tourism (sarcasm) much like the Norwegians and British travel to Sweden or Czech Republic paying for their surgeries or cancer treatment. Private health insurance is very expensive in Europe. Soon, we will have the same plight.

      • Sick of it

        The immigrant doctors we’re picking up from India and the Middle East are inferior to many Mexican doctors who work on an affordable cash basis.

        • mobilebay

          If no one minds, I’ll keep my doctor whose office walls sport twelve degrees from US universities and medical schools. I know I can, because our President said we could. Besides, he wouldn’t lie to us, would he?

  • IKantunderstand

    Uhhmm, our government proceeds apace to bring about a new people. The fools in academia actually believe, that though you are not, nor ever were, part of a centuries old culture, no matter. You can not only participate, but further said culture. Races are only just social constructs, but, since they seem to have some medical validity, well, then, we will acknowledge that there is a SLIGHT amount of differences, but, ONLY, because of interbreeding of historically isolated groups. There, you get it now? Blacks, Asians, blah, blah, are perfectly capable of assuming the mantle of White European civilization, cultural enrichment, and technological advancement. That they have not ever accomplished ANYTHING, is due to White people not discovering their existence earlier, and, then, having the nerve to not engage in wholesale race mixing. So, there you have it: The current Marxist thought on how and why displacing Whites is of no consequence, and, at any rate, we deserve it. Put that in your pipe and smoke it! Oh, wait, you can’t actually smoke a pipe most places, because that would be illegal, or, at the very least, anti-social, rude, a crass unconcern and a diabolical disdain for all the inhabitants of the planet. Unless, of course, your pipe was filled with marijuana.

    • Ella

      To sum it up, there are people who cannot wait for Whites to vanish. Even our people will applaud our exit.

  • Dave4088

    Medicaid recipients are the primary beneficiaries of Obammycare and most people on Medicaid are black and brown so it’s no surprise they support it. Free health care has long been a plank of the NAACP, Nation of Islam, Mecha and La Raza and they finally got their wish with the virulently anti-white Obama.

    • Sentinel9

      Are you sure about NoI? My understanding is Malcolm didn’t want jack from whites. Which makes total sense considering the dysgenic effects of 50 years of welfare and “civil rights”.

  • Evette Coutier

    Obama is using our money to buy votes against our interests. Actually, it’s the best bunko scam on the planet, and it is entirely legal. What remains is to ask what are we going to do about it?

    • ThomasER916

      The best thing we can do is arm ourselves, stock up, organize, and unplug. Let the system collapse and push the non-whites out. They’ll die quickly from starvation without Welfare. They’ll die when we shoot them for looting. If we’re not armed then we’re victims. If we don’t stock up on supplies then we’ll starve in the aftermath. If we don’t organize then we lose to numbers. If we don’t unplug then our prosperity is out poison.

  • Dave4088

    The vicious fight over Obamacare is a portent of America’s political future: In one corner you have blacks, the growing Latinos and the deracinated white people who love them demanding resources, rights and privileges that often come at the expense of white people. In the other corner you have white people, mostly right of center (or racialist like us) trying to keep what we’ve rightfully earned. On top of that you have an undetermined number of Republicans poised to cast their lot with the former.

  • ThomasER916

    What we need to do is tell people what’s going on and they’ll oppose it. If whites knew of their history in the Ukraine (Holodomor) where Jews from all over Europe became “Generals” in Stalin’s NVKD and murdered more Ukrainians in the winter of 1933 than Hitler killed Jews from beginning to end, they’d never trust a Jew or anyone in charge of their destiny or their people’s destiny.

    We can’t talk about the Litvaks who destroyed Lithuania then moved on to start a new genocide in South Africa. We can’t talk about it so there’s no connection to the causality. Since we can’t talk about it we don’t have a sense of immigrants destroying our civilization or Jews as a Hostile Elite.

    We have a history of people creating Civilization and being invaded or ruled by foreigners. We can’t talk about it because it offends Jared. Amren has very limited uses.

  • DonReynolds

    The answer seems obvious. If blacks and hispanics are wild about Obamacare, let them do it. Exempt the whites, since they do not see the advantages. If Obama and his radicals are correct, then only the whites will be adversely affected, by not joining. If Obama is wrong, then he will have led his own sorts down the wrong path……and whites will not be dragged through the briars with them. What is the problem?

  • emiledurk16

    The fact that Hispanics and blacks support this untenable program is no surprise to me.
    Anything that takes what the dreaded “white male” has made and re-distributes it to others not in this genus is the zeitgeist.
    For the commies, it wasn’t enough that Medicare and Social Security tanked; now lets add an unfeasible program that admits folks (as pathetic as it is) with pre-existing conditions to be automatically accepted and tell the brain dead masses that it won’t, in any way, have an adverse affect on your premiums or the national economy. (18 trill by 2015?)
    Got some swamp land in Alaska ya might be interested in.
    When I see the mindless, fawning, mostly non-white college students screaming with glee every platitude and lie this non-citizen recites, it reinforces my conviction that a secession is the only option.
    “Morality is an invention by the weak to restrict the strong” was a thought put forth in ancient times by the Hellenistic world.
    I see now how slime ball politicians sell out everything we have accomplished to non-white peoples for votes.
    I’m very sickened.

  • Mark Hillyard

    It sounds pathetic but it does appear to me that the only reason those idiots invented Obamacare was to buy votes.
    I think the likes of Pelosi et al are that base.

  • ThomasER916

    Sure I am. You’re right. I’m “no different” from a black. There’s absolutely “no difference” between me and a black man, except for Affirmative Action, NAACP, hate crimes, and anti-Discrimination laws. There’s absolutely no difference between me, who can give examples, and blacks who hate whitey and turn the Motor City into ghetto Detroit. None whatsoever.

    BTW, since you’re indoctrinated beyond stupid I’ll just point out that I was mocking you.

  • Greg Thomas

    “In California, where Hispanics will outnumber whites within a year, backers of the Affordable Care Act are ramping up outreach in places like Richmond, a San Francisco Bay Area city whose population is almost 40 percent Hispanic and where about 18 percent of residents live below the poverty line.”

    Did anyone else catch that little detail, that illegal invading mestizos will outnumber Whites in California within a year? Looks like reconquista is almost complete. Welcome to mexico California.

  • ThomasER916

    “To think only jews served in the soviet army under Stalin is laughable.”

    You’re a total embarrassment. Just stop already. You somehow believe that blathering in Straw Man Fallacies will win you the internet. Most of us here have seen that crap before. We hear it 24/7 on the news and in the classrooms. We’ve developed an immunity.

    • Jeff O

      Who am I embarrassing? I have shown you no disrespect. I merely dispute some of your findings.

      • ThomasER916

        You didn’t dispute anything. You’re making Straw Man arguments. Do you even know what that means? Here’s an example with emphasis:

        “To think ONLY jews served in the soviet army under Stalin is laughable.”

        No one said that but you. That’s your argument. That’s what you said. That is exclusive to you. You’re the one who said “only”. You took something and MADE it “laughable.” Get it? You create a bogus argument which is weak, pretend that’s your opponent’s argument, fight it, and knock it down. This is like a knight dressing up a Straw Man in armor, claiming it’s the Black Knight and fighting it instead of a real, valid opponent and saying “Look at how ridiculous you are.”

        What’s “laughable” is you thinking you “disputed” anything with a Straw Man.

  • Jefferson

    Among rich people who self identify themselves as Republicans, I notice most of them are more Libertarian on certain social issues than working class Republicans.

    Wealthy Republicans on average are less likely to be religious than working class Republicans, so you will find a greater acceptance of same sex marriage for example among Republicans who make a lot of money than among Republicans who do not make a lot of money.

    Of course there are exceptions to the rule, like Bill O’Reilly who makes over $10 million dollars a year at The Fox News Channel and yet he still does not think couples of the same sex should have the legal right to marry each other.

    But Bill has admitted in the past that his anti-gay marriage stance is a very unpopular opinion among people of his high income bracket.

  • ThomasER916

    So you ignore what was actually said because it doesn’t fit you previous bullshit? Well done! You’ve managed to lie to yourself.