Trayvon Martin Was on Top of Zimmerman When Teen Was Shot, Gunshot Wound Expert Testifies

Erin Donaghue, CBS News, July 9, 2013

A nationally renowned gunshot wound expert testified Tuesday that Trayvon Martin’s gunshot wound was consistent with accused murderer George Zimmerman’s story that the teen was on top of him and leaning over when he was shot.

George Zimmerman, a former neighborhood watch captain standing trial in the teen’s shooting death, has said Martin attacked him and was on top of him just before the fatal gunshot. Prosecutors have argued Zimmerman profiled the teen and started the confrontation.

Taking the stand for the defense, Dr. Vincent Di Maio, a forensic pathologist, said that Martin’s gunshot wound was consistent with the gun’s muzzle being against his clothing, which would have been two to four inches away from his body when he was shot.

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Trayvon Martin’s mother, Sybrina Fulton, left the courtroom as Di Maio testified. {snip}

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Di Maio said that Trayvon Martin would have been alive for about one to three minutes following the gunshot wound, but would have been able to move and speak for at least ten to fifteen seconds.

The testimony was a contrast to the remarks of a medical examiner who conducted Martin’s autopsy, who said that the teen could have been alive for up to ten minutes after the gunshot. {snip}

Prosecutors have said that George Zimmerman told investigators he moved Martin’s arms away from his body after the gunshot, although Martin was found with his arms tucked beneath his chest. Answering a question from defense attorney Don West, Di Maio said that someone may be able to move their arms after receiving a similar gunshot.

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Zimmerman’s injuries were consistent with having his head hit against concrete more than once, Di Maio said. The former neighborhood watch captain said the teen smashed his head into a sidewalk several times before he claimed he acted in self-defense.

The testimony was a contrast to another medical examiner, Dr. Valerie Rao, who testified for prosecutors that Zimmerman had “insignificant” injuries that didn’t appear to result from multiple impacts against concrete.

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  • David Ashton

    This is a show trial and evidence is not the only factor, unfortunately.

    • YngveKlezmer

      True. If evidence were evaluated fairly and sensibly, Zimmermann would be found not guilty for reasons of self defense, and his verdict would be upheld as an example of fairness and decency for all law abiding citizens, giving us the confidence to defend ourselves valiantly, if ever attacked by a vicious thug such as Trayvon Martin. Zimmermann’s situation should be held up as an example of an innocent person’s right to self defense, and, as a result, he should be found not guilty for reasons of self defense. Once this verdict is in, there should be a movie made about his tragedy, portraying the truth about the violence these Negro thugs are constantly engaging in against not just Whites, but anyone who is not Negro. Asian and Arab store owners have been dealing with Negro violence for years, and Negroes love to refer to Arab store owners as Ay-rabs. In a fair society, these Arab store owners would be allowed to refer to them as jiggaboos, feral Groids, and whatever else that suits their fancy.

  • Romulus

    Anyone with even basic crime scene analysis skills could have corroborated Zimmermann account of the shooting. This has nothing to do with anything else, other than following ”
    The “black as victim” playbook!!!. The ultimate goal, is to of course, overturn Florida’s CASTLE DOCTRINE.

    • ncpride

      And to terrify Whites into NOT defending ourselves from these vicious thugs.

      • Romulus

        It is my hope and active goal to awaken as many people as possible to the police state that are govt is inexorably moving towards. How does the saying go?, Put your trust in God boys (and girls), and KEEP YOUR POWDER DRY!!!!!!!!!

        • cancerous bananna

          I say praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.
          The blacks say somebody’s got to pay.
          Well you did bring it upon yourself.. pay up.

          • The__Bobster

            The homeowners’ association already paid the lying mammy and pappy a million big ones.

    • Creepy as a cracker!

      This is state sanctioned mob rule with the intended result to be a lynching of a perceived White man.

      • YngveKlezmer

        Yes it is. Sadly, he is not even a White Man. He is part Hispanic, and he certainly looks it. Proof positive that Negroes have been granted a privileged status that no other group is privy to. Interesting how these Liberals seem to find it okay that the worst behaved group in our country now receives the most privileged and preferential treatment. This is the exact opposite of fairness.

    • Non Humans

      I think you mean “Stand Your Ground” and “No Duty to Retreat Laws”. The Castle Doctrine applies specifically to defense in the cases of home invasions or unwarranted entry to occupied places of commerce.
      .
      To address your point, though, overturning the Castle Doctrine would be next to impossible. They might suceed in a few cases in making firearms illegal in certain areas, but there are always bows, crossbows, swords, mace, etc.
      .
      Long story short, anyone (or anything, in the case of nonhumans) dumb enough to break into my house while I’m home, will not make it out alive, or without a grand amount of suffering, for that matter.

      • Romulus

        Yes, their goal amounting to the same thing. We are of the same mind when it comes to any misadventures of the minority kind and anyone else, for that matter. That goes for my person in public spaces or my “castle”.

  • Nick Gherz

    Evidence, schmevidence.
    Even video ebidens will not appease feral blacks.

  • capnmorgan5150

    Closing arguments tomorrow, riots might be starting this weekend. Keep your guns close!

    • Stentorian_Commentator

      Yup, good luck, Florida whites!

      • stewball

        Good luck Florida Jews!

    • The__Bobster

      Now that’s real reality TV. I can’t wait.

  • Joseph Bryant

    If there are riots it is nobody’d fault but the media and certain professional blacks. They ginned up this whole racial fraud. A latino shot a black teenager in self defense. End of story. How they turned this into a case of racist white man shoots innocent teenager I still can’t wrap my head around.

    I guess the moral of the story is that even when its not the fault of whites, well, it still is. Somehow. They will find a way to make it so.s

    • Sick of it

      Yeah, Zimmerman is obviously not white. Not sure how it could be a white vs. black issue.

      • Peter Lamoureux

        It was the best the MSM could get so they ran with it. The entire racial angle is contrived, Zimmerman is not white but he looks close enough for the blacks true feelings about whites to manifest in public.

        • YngveKlezmer

          Contrived indeed. The Media has adopted the Negro viewpoint on race, that Hispanics and Arabs are “Whitey”. Just shows who the media represents these days. If the media represented Whites, Zimmermann would be a Mestizo man.

          • kjh64

            Hispanics and Arabs are “White” when it’s to the media’s advantage, such as trying to portray a Hispanic/Arab criminal as “White” to show that all these Whites commit crimes too. However, when there is an issue with discrimination, immigration opposition etc., then Hispanics/Arabs become non-White very quickly.

        • Thor Bonham

          Yes as soon as the found out he wasn’t white they came up with another angle “white hispanic” PPffftt !!

          You know, it’s really frustrating, because I can’t figure out why the hell the media hates whites in the first place.. Most, if not all of the media doing the hating, are actually WHITE .. It boggles my mind how anyone can be so self hating for no reason ..

      • Joseph Bryant

        Seriously. They had his mother on the stand and she’s straight out of Lima. Same with his uncle. They seem like a decent enough family, though.

        • YngveKlezmer

          I believe it!!! So ridiculous. They are obviously Mestizo.

        • Sick of it

          I’m not even badmouthing his family…they may be alright, but he just flat does not look like a white guy. I could tell from the first photo I saw.

          • Joseph Bryant

            I wasn’t saying you were badmouthing them, just that I’d certainly believe them over Saint Skittles and Friends.

            On the one hand we have a civic-minded neighborhood watch volunteer who was sick of crime, a court magistrate, a career military guy who became a law enforcement officer, and a Vietnam War medic. Not to mention a neutral, college educated neighbor who agrees with their side.

            On the other side we have…well…we have Rachel Jeantel and Saint Skittles of the Purple Drank.

          • Sick of it

            Basically civilization vs criminals?

          • Joseph Bryant

            Yup, I’m afraid so. Within the next two days we get to see if the jury system is still worth a damn.

      • YngveKlezmer

        Only Blacks and Libtards could make this issue Black vs. White. The real issue at hand is Negro violence, and the right of everyone else to protect themselves against violent Negroes. Apparently, Mestizos become White when they are defending themselves against Negroes. Does this mean that Mexican gangs in LA become White when they stand up to the Negroes?? I suppose Arab terrorists would also be considered White if they attacked a group of Negroes?? WTF!!!! Only a moronic coalition of sheltered Libtards and Negros could come up with this hogwash!!!

        • Bud Smith

          Yes, the FBI actually counts hispanics as white when they commit crimes, and counts them as hispanics when they are victims of crimes. This case is consistent with FBI race identification. If Zimmerman were shot instead of Trayvon, he would be identified as hispanic.

          • BarnyL

            And whites are only portrayed as the perpetrators, never the victim.

      • BarnyL

        Standing orders: get whitey.

    • YngveKlezmer

      Exactly!!! A Mestizo man shoots a Negro teen in self defense, in the heat of battle as he fights for his life. This man is not White. He is Mestizo. He should also be a folk hero. He fought for his life, and didn’t allow brainwashing about Negroes being somehow sacred stop him from defending himself. The only reason he is not being held up as a folk hero by the media is because he dared to stand up to a Negro. If he had stood up to a White aggressor in the same manner, or another Hispanic, this would have just been a local crime story instead of national news. Funny how the idiot teen Negroid thug called an obviously Mestizo man a “Cracker”. Just more evidence of how Negroids view the rest of us. Apparently, most of them think Mestizos are White.

    • BarnyL

      It’s not just Zimmerman but the whites that are the victims.

      Maybe white Americans will wake up to how the media hates and despises them.

  • Tim_in_Indiana

    Dr. Valerie Rao, who testified for prosecutors that Zimmerman had “insignificant” injuries that didn’t appear to result from multiple impacts against concrete.

    We saw photographs of the back of Zimmerman’s bloodied head. Was that “insignificant?”

    • So CAL Snowman

      He also suffered a broken nose and a slight concussion, I believe.

      • capnmorgan5150

        Yep, he did have a broken nose and cuts all over the back of his head. The apologists are trying to say he did it to himself if you can believe that!

        • The__Bobster

          Except when the media intentionally blurred out his injuries.

        • YngveKlezmer

          They should be falling to their knees, asking the heavenly father to forgive them for this!! This man was fighting for his life!!! How would they have liked it if one of their lovely Negroes, whom they want to pretend is so perfect, was trying to beat them to death??? They would have done the same, I would hope, and fought for their life!!

      • GB101

        The injuries were not serious, as it turned out, but…

        I think the defense will make two points in the closing argument: one, when you are getting banged around you do not know how serious the injuries are – the assailant doesn’t stop after each blow for a medical assessment; and, two, there is no way of knowing how many more blows would have been dealt had Zimmerman not stopped the assault and how serious the blows would have been.

        • Sick of it

          All head injuries are potentially fatal…this is not rocket science. You can actually go into a coma or die very easily. You could have internal bleeding or permanent brain damage very easily. A guy who keeps pounding your head into the ground or kicking you in the head is trying to kill you.

          • I gave myself a concussion in a fall off a ladder in 2005, and nine months later had a TIA (a mild stroke). I’ll be the first to agree that head injuries are serious.

          • Sick of it

            Sorry to hear that. Strokes can be nasty business. Several folks in my family have had major strokes.

          • I’ve walked and then marched and finally jogged myself back into shape. I was afraid to drive for a few years because my reflexes weren’t up to snuff, but I stayed home and played WW-1 and WW-2 combat flight sims until my situational awareness could compensate and I could plan a smooth maneuver just fast enough to substitute.

            I used to get headaches in the car in the sun very quickly, so I preferred to drive at night. My sense of balance is fairly good again, but I suspect I’ll be scared of heights for the rest of my life.

        • Tom_in_Miami

          I’m watching the state’s closing statement and this court is a joke. I just hope the jury doesn’t go for this De la Rianda’s pratfalls.

          • GB101

            I am following it on a live blog. This jumped out at me:

            “Now he wants you to let him off because he killed the only eyewitness, the victim, Trayvon Martin, who was being followed by this man, who had the right to defend him,” said de la Rionda.

    • NorthernWind

      The prosecution’s entire case consists of lies so… They are politically motivated so they coached the girl (Trayvon was on the phone with) to lie, got a disgraced medical examiner to lie, got the parents to lie, etc. Even the prosecutor is a liar.

      It’s a show trial and nothing more. Hopefully the jury will see this because it’s Zimmerman’s only hope, not that his life will be normal for many years after if he is found not guilty.

    • Homo_Occidentalis

      Rao is an Indian surname. No doubt this “doctor” was a cheap import from the Raj brought over to screw up at the prestige jobs Americans just won’t do.

      • Sick of it

        Considering that the AMA keeps a tight control on the number of practicing doctors in this country, the incompetent Dr. Rao literally took the spot of a more capable practitioner.

  • I’m guessing manslaughter here in an attempt to satisfy both parties.
    In roulette, it’s called “hedging your bets”.

    • Romulus

      We should get a pool going!! Wonder what kinda odds Vegas is giving?

      • The state is so dumb, it will probably place $100 on red, then another $100 on black.

    • jane johnson

      Here in Florida, we have a peculiar gun law known as 10 – 20 – Life that imposes mandatory minimums for crimes involving firearms: show a gun = 10 years, ; fire a gun = 20 years; shoot someone with a gun = life. The State is asking the judge to instruct the jury to consider a charge of “shooting a gun, resulting in death”, if they are unable to convict on either the original murder 2 charge, or on manslaughter. The defense has strenuously objected to this since the jury will not be told about the mandatory minimum, and the judge will have no discretion on sentencing, should Zim be convicted. Herronner will be hearing arguments in the A.M.

      • Svigor

        Sounds like there’s some explanation missing, somewhere; I doubt “shooting a gun, resulting in death” (If there is such a crime) gets around a successful self-defense plea any better than murder or manslaughter do.

        • jane johnson

          I had never heard of this particular “crime” either, but it seems to me that is similar to the mitigating concept of “depraved indifference” in negligent homicide cases. For example, it could be used to prosecute someone who fired a gun up in the air; say as part of a New Year or Independence Day celebration, if the bullet hit someone on its way back to earth. Imo, it is an attempt by the State to give the jury a veritable smorgasbord of possible charges; a cynical ploy to plant the idea that, since Martin is dead, Zim must be guilty of something. Shameful pandering to the race hustlers to avoid “civil unrest”.

  • Luca

    Apparently George Zimmerman should have allowed Trayvon to continue bashing in his skull until his brains spilled out onto the sidewalk. After all, George Zimmerman committed the most heinous crime of racial profiling. Therefore Martin was justified in using deadly force.

    This is the reasoning of the black and uber-Liberal community. All the evidence and reasoning in the world will not change their way of thinking.

    • cancerous bananna

      I read a comment that said something like “Yo! F da BS legal system. Sombodys going to pay for what happened to tm. F gz.”

      Meanwhile whites are looking at the ebidents and even most libs can agree if it looks, acts, walks, talks like sewage.. chances are it is.. or in their eyes a saint.

      Saint Sewage

    • Snow

      I agree. Also, the only way white women can avoid being labeled racists is never, ever say “no” to black men. If a black man randomly approaches a white woman and says “could you give me a BJ and then a chance for me to sodomize you?” then she better say yes. Actually, we are living in an era where any white woman who does not actively offer random black men sexual relationships is a racist.

      While I am certainly politically incorrect, I was going to say, aren’t cops trained to shoot criminals in the foot or legs?

      But I just found out through this AmRen article that Martin was on top.

      • Non Humans

        Cops are trained to shoot for center-mass. Trying to hit specific non-lethal areas when forced to use their gun is what will get them shot.

        • Sick of it

          Yeah, most aren’t that good of shots…

    • YngveKlezmer

      Since these Uber-Liberals love the Negroes so much, why don’t they all just move into the various inner city neighborhoods in the Great Lakes and Northeastern States, where they can be surrounded by their buddies the Negroids at every turn?? Why should they suffer living around us other Whites in the quiet suburbs and small towns?? Why would they want to live around us evil racists??

      • Luca

        I prefer that they all move to Liberia.

  • OhWow

    And the blacks still scream for Zimmerman’s head. They really just don’t get it. Their low IQ is so evident in this case.

    • The__Bobster

      And they all have the same erroneous information that they use to defend Treeboon: He wuz bein’ stalked. He wuz bein’ profiled. He wuz defensding’ hizseff. Dat wuz hims screamin’ fo’ hepp. Dat crakka should’ve gone back to hiz car. He banged hiz own haid on a wall.

      • Svigor

        “Haid,” yep, someone’s been around southern “diversity.”

    • YngveKlezmer

      We should scream for their deportation back to Africa. We need to send them back before the Africanization of White America is complete

    • capnmorgan5150

      The blacks and the white liberals had their minds made up about this case 2 minutes after they heard about it. Evidence and facts aren’t going to change their minds now.

  • Spartacus

    Can I ask you guys something ? Why the sympathy for Zimmerman ? I’ve seen many here on Amren that wished him luck, that actually care if the guy gets a fair trial or not… Why do you care ? The guy is a mestizo, he’s not one of us. Is there something I’m missing ?

    • Jesse James

      We care because the Federal Justice Department is trying to use this case to make it illegal for white people to defend themselves against violent blacks. They want the Castle Doctrine and Stand your ground legislation rolled back across the country. If they can’t do it legally they intend to make such a horrible example out of Zimmerman, who is not white but evidently “white enough” for their purposes, that honest law abiding tax paying white citizen-slaves will be afraid to arm themselves and exercise their God given right to defend themselves against feral thugs.

      • Spartacus

        Hmmm… So it’s a matter of legal precedent, rather than solidarity.

        Still, you guys could just learn how to get rid of corpses. It’s not that hard, really! I don’t know how to put this without Amren deleting the post, but I’m gonna try:

        1. Separate the perishables from the non-perishables.
        2. Chop up the perishables.
        3.Boil then grind the non-perishables.
        4. Scatter the results in distant places, preferably locations with lots of wild-life, or remote parts of rivers.

        Practice with a dog,or some other critter, and you’ll get it…

        • The__Bobster

          Just try doing that in the middle of a housing development.

        • Put the body into a plastic trash can or empty oil drum. Fill container around body with concrete. Allow concrete to harden. Dump container in ocean off the continental shelf.

          A couple miles under water, not even God is going to find that thing.

          • anarchyst

            One could also use the anti-environmental method of dealing with “endangered species”–“shoot, shovel, shut up” . . .

          • Johnny99

            Okeefenokee has alligators.

        • Johnny99

          Sorry, have to stop you there. Dogs deserve better. Other critters also.

          • Spartacus

            Then use roadkill, just learn how to do it…

        • Don’t hurt animals. Rural 2-lane highways produce plenty of roadkill. Practice with one of those.

        • Grind it up and feed it to hogs.

      • dd121

        I don’t know about you but for a few days after the verdict, regardless what it is, I’ll be packing heat. I’d rather not but our leftist masters want us defenseless against the negro mobs. JJ, I think you’re right on target.

        • Jesse James

          Let’s hope that we are both on target should the necessity arise. Stay safe out there, just remember that there are savages across the country publicly declaring that they are going to kill whites in retaliation. Best take them at their word, limit your and your families exposure to the savages and try to avoid trouble,

      • Svigor

        You may ask yourself why would they want to empower criminals?

        Anarcho-Tyranny.

        The answer might be Anarcho-Fascism.

    • alex

      He confronted black thug. What have you done?

      • Spartacus

        I live in Romania, there’s not that many Africans here… But there are a lot of gypsies, and I go after them regularly, with extreme violence. Even when I’ve been outnumbered 12 to 1, I never ran away, I stood my ground and I fought, and most importantly – I didn’t go down. So I suggest you re-think your attitude towards me, because here in Eastern Europe, if one of our girls had been through what Channon Christian went through, there would’ve been genocide for it. What the hell have you done about it, exactly ?

        • alex

          I can’t post it here.

          • Spartacus

            As long as you actually did something… But don’t you dare imply I haven’t, because I have. And I will again.

          • Romulus

            America, as your aware is under near constant surveillance. Only with know how and good locations, can the average JOE here accomplish things one to one. Johnny law will be all over anyone like stink on scat. America has lost it’s balls, LITERALLY. There would have to be a seriously violent bloody,huge scale,street level attack and even then, only so many will rise to defend this land and it’s people. The indoctrination runs so deep,many believe that we deserve it. I know better.

          • Spartacus

            If they don’t film your face, and you leave no DNA behind, there’s nothing they can do to you. Also, from my own experience, I can tell you non-whites never call the police, no matter what you do to them.

          • Sick of it

            Here they do often call the police. And lawyers…and the media.

          • Romulus

            America also has a shortage of native blood (white Anglo-Saxon protestant) sons of fighting age. I love saying that. The tribal named themselves roll off the tongue with strength and reverence.

          • Spartacus

            Our race has never needed raw numbers for victory.

          • Romulus

            The strength of any herd is always measured in numbers. It certainly helps when a people have better weapons technology. That was how my ancestors ruled the known world for nigh a 1000 yrs.

          • Spartacus

            Technology itself is not as important as the people who wield it. Remember – 500 white men took down the Aztecs in less than a year, and you can be sure their muskets that required more than a minute to recharge after each shot didn’t help very much.

            Technology had nothing to do with it, they just used their wits and the discipline inherent to our race, and it led them to victory.

          • Romulus

            Yes, of course! Our numbers count in the way that is has become important here in America instead of old fashioned masculinity. We don’t control the rule of law anymore as the majority in th e most important institutions. True sheer will of heart and the people to back it up helps immensely. America is a huge country and the anchor of the global system. It’s not that it’s hard to organize, there is just not enough people on the same sheet of music because the folks are misinformed deliberatelyand the laws don’t reflect our interests anymore.

          • Sick of it

            They also had cannon. Seriously…scary stuff vs. crude obsidian weapons.

          • Spartacus

            There were 500 of them. The Aztec Empire had a population estimated at around 14.000.000 . If all things were equal, all the Aztecs had to do was charge them with a few thousand warriors, and that would’ve been the end of it. I think you overestimate how efficient artillery was at that time.

          • Sick of it

            Artillery in that time frame was capable of leveling a city, would just take longer than modern artillery. European gun technology plus cannon ensured the rise of the Shogunate in Japan during the same time frame…they blew away countless warriors of great skill using some of the best steel blades ever made.

            Plus re: the Aztecs, Cortes and his men started the fight by taking out their leadership and then made alliances with other tribes in the empire.

          • Spartacus

            I don’t think you have a realistic view of the conquistadors: How many cannons could they have brought with them all the way from Europe ? 10 ? 20 ? Nowhere near enough to level a city.

            As for Cortes taking out the Aztec leadership and making alliances with other tribes – That’s called using your head 😉

          • Spartacus

            Actually – no, it isn’t. I live in Bucuresti, and gypsies here know their place. Western Europe is where the gypsy crime is rampant, and that’s because the westerners are weaklings who don’t stand up to them.

          • alex

            You probably have police and Justice System on your side. We don’t.

          • Spartacus

            Our police and Justice Systems are inept and abusive, both against Romanians and against gypsies. We just avoid them, which is not really that hard here. Still, there is no excuse for letting the dark-skins get away with all the things they do against your women and children in the US.

          • alex

            Why don’t you come to the US and show us the way?

          • Spartacus

            Because I can barely afford an internet connection, let alone visit the US…

            But if you use your head, you’ll see you don’t need anybody to “show you the way”. The dark-skins have never been serious competition to us, it is merely the weakness of our own race that has created the situation we’re in right now. Deal with that, and the war will be won.

          • YngveKlezmer

            Exactly!!! A re-awakening of our racial consciousness is all we need. Deceptively simple stuff. Psychology is powerful stuff, and the Libtards have been very effective in sapping the racial consciousness of the average American White. Websites like this one, though, are where the re-awakening starts. Those of us who have held a racial consciousness all along can coax our brethren back home here in cyberspace!! John Lennon said it best: “You may say I’m a dreamer. But I’m not the only one”. While I was never a fan of Lennon, being that he was a miscegenator and pro non-White culture and causes, I think that these words, when applied to the cause of racial realism in America today, ring true. We must stir the water against the tide behind the scenes, but, as we stir more vigorously, we can eventually reverse the tide completely. Our goal should be a welling up of behind the scenes White racial consciousness, that builds to a crest behind the scenes, so that we hit the mainstream and shift the consensus all at once!!!

          • YngveKlezmer

            Absolutely on the money, Spartacus. In the old days, Negroes knew they would be “disciplined”, and not necessarily by the police, for the kind of garbage they like to pull. There was all kinds of violence within the Negro community, but, by and large, they knew their place when around us. Some of the older Negroes still do these days. All we need to do is show some backbone, and stand up to them. This Zimmermann trial, I am hoping, will be the catalyst for our racial re-awakening.

          • YngveKlezmer

            Nice!!! Just like in the good old days, Down South here in The States. The Negroes knew their place back then, and knew better than to pick on White folks. Eastern Europe sounds like it is still doing things right!!! God bless you guys!!

          • Spartacus

            Romanians aren’t really that violent by nature, like Russians are, but we fight back when need be. Still, we’re not very ideologized, and I’ve never met a skinhead in my life.

            When you’re depressed or something, just read a little about Golden Dawn – They’re a Greek party, and probably the smartest and best-organized Nationalist party in Europe. And according to the latest polls, they’re leading in Athens, and might even win the mayorship . Some of the lefties, both in Greece and outside, have openly said that Greece should cancel elections if GD wins them… So you know how bad they terrify them 😉

    • capnmorgan5150

      Because the media is trying to portray him as White, and that reflects on US!

    • Dave4088

      Good points. True, this case has nothing to do with us but the media have dragged us into this mess by casting Zimmerman as a “white Hispanic” and in an effort to pit white versus black. And the professional negroes have used this incident to bludgeon white people and white society and as an excuse to harm us and commit mayhem if the verdict is not to their liking.

      • Spartacus

        I understand now, there trying to set a precedent to disarm whites.

        • jane johnson

          Yes! And we are NOT having any of it!

    • The reason I care is because this case is really about a prosecutor who wants to nullify Florida’s self-defense laws and “stand your ground” law, in spite of the fact that these laws were passed by Florida’s state legislature and signed by Florida’s governor.

      Allowing a prosecutor to short-circuit state law hurts all law-abiding people in Florida, the majority of whom are not black or mestizo.

    • shawnmer

      That is horribly short sighted. Ever heard the word “strategy?”. You pick your battles, and if there’s a political narrative that can be damaging to your cause you engage it. Its a lot more complicated than, “He isn’t white, so **** him!”

      • Spartacus

        I did not understand the legal implications, but I do now. Still, you guys should be a little more aggressive in general…

    • YngveKlezmer

      He is a Mestizo, yes, but it is the principle of it. He was being attacked, and had the right to defend himself. For us Whites, the key point that Negroes think it is okay to just attack us, and that they do not think a man they view as White has the right to defend himself against them, is reason enough for us to cheer for Zimmerman. If “they” consider him White, in this case, we should want him to receive a verdict of not guilty. If he was out there championing “La Raza”, had killed himself a Negro for the cause of La Raza, I don’t think that anyone on here would give a rat’s a*s about him. I sure wouldn’t!!!

    • Sick of it

      I believe in justice…plus it’s wasteful to expend so many police resources on a bogus case when I’m sure there are plenty of actual murders that should be investigated instead. Also, to be blunt, “there but for the Grace of God go I.”

    • David Ashton

      I care because facts and justice matter.
      That is not inconsistent with my preference for living in a “white world” where, incidentally, facts and justice have hitherto been primary values in our own culture.
      Government-encouraged incitement of black mob sentiment against someone, whether or not perceived as white, who resisted violence from a black youth is a gross scandal.
      I am not in favor of the Mexicanisation of the USA.

    • Magician

      “Can I ask you guys something ?”

      You just did. You did not exactly give us a choice.

      “Why the sympathy for Zimmerman?”

      Well, many young blacks vowed to kill random and irrelevant white men if Zimmerman is not found guilty.

    • In the more than year since Trayvonapalooza broke out, there have been quite a few black revenge attacks because of “what happn’d to Tway-von.” (Maybe also including, as Puggg informed us, this thing in Georgia that was also an AR story yesterday.) All of the victims of black Sir Skittles revenge attacks have been whites, as in white whites, not Hispanics, not white Hispanics, not Peruvians.

  • Peter Lamoureux

    The evidence doesn’t matter the truth doesn’t matter. President Obama made this personal when he declared, “if I had a son he would look like Trayvon”. I believe it was his intention to incite racial hatred and unrest for the mid-term elections. The liberals will have a rally cry to campaign with, (there’s still a long way to go or some other nonsense) and the mouth breathing Honey Boo Boo watching public will eat it up while they get their EBT, Section 8 and free school lunches.

    • The__Bobster

      He did the same thing with Henry Gates. Obongo is a Bantu first….and last.

      • YngveKlezmer

        He is indeed. His 50% Celtic genes were thrown down the crapper when they were mixed with 50% Negroid genes. He is the poster child for the evils of miscegenation.

    • YngveKlezmer

      Obongo surely showed his true colors with this statement. He is a mulatto, and his racial gene pool is 50% Negroid. His associations, all along, have shown that he might as well be 100% Negroid, everything from the Negroid hate Whitey church he once attended down to this statement in support of a juvenile delinquent.

  • NorthernWind

    Blacks and libs do not care about evidence in this case. They will twist everything to fit their narrative, truth be damned!

    • capnmorgan5150

      Yep, for them it’s all about “feelings”.

  • redfeathers

    Whatever the verdict, sucker punchers, polar bear hunters, Knockout King players, flash robbers and flash mobbers have seen up close that there’s always a chance a victim will shoot in self-defense.

    • Spartacus

      Here in Romania, at least once a week, me and buddies go crow hunting. You should try it sometimes 😉

      • baldowl

        I actually had an idea for something like that for us here, utilizing bait, but I won’t post the details here.

        • Spartacus

          Screw the bait, just go after the nearest one you can find. It’s not like they’ll go to the police or anything…

          • baldowl

            We mustn’t sink to their level, friend.

          • Spartacus

            I decided a long time ago that I’ll show all non-whites the exact same mercy they showed to Channon Christian. Which is none at all. We’ll never sink to their level, not even if we try.

          • baldowl

            Noted and respected.

          • Everything I read about that case still breaks my heart.

          • alex

            If they don’t have warrants they will.
            There is a lot of things you don’t know about the US.

          • Spartacus

            I know that if people fear you, and you can make their fears come true, then nobody will try to take you on. It’s true for any country, no matter where you are.

          • Gunrunner1

            Amen Spartacus. Whites will never be safe till negros FEAR to touch a White.

          • I know what living with people in fear of me is like. I returned home to my own house after three years in federal prison, and while my mother was over visiting me, haven driven 85 miles, my federal probation officer and an armed escort walked around “warning” everyone I was back. I was was working at a Subway sandwich shop in 2004 when one of the English neighbors asked “Hatch Circle?”

            I answered “Yes”, before looking up. It was one of my neighbors, who then walked straight out, her food unpaid for. The neighbors weren’t all like that, and some of them came over to say “Welcome back, Michael”.

            I used to get my mail out of the box only after dark for a few years so nobody else would have to see me. I didn’t want quarrels.

            I have had enough sheer Hell in my life, of one sort or another, I’m not impressed by much. I’d be impressed if you would swear off “crow-hunting” as you call it, and do something more useful for yourself and other Romanians.

            Peace, brother.

          • Spartacus

            The best thing the white race can do for itself right now is violence towards dark-skins. I’m a violent man as well, but nobody avoids, except for gypsies, who know I hate them and that I’ll hurt them every chance I get. Otherwise – nobody has a problem with me, quite the contrary.

            What exactly were you imprisoned for ?

          • alex is right here, they always be looking for that “gibsmedat”.

  • The__Bobster

    The testimony was a contrast to another medical examiner, Dr. Valerie Rao, who testified for prosecutors that Zimmerman had “insignificant” injuries that didn’t appear to result from multiple impacts against concrete.
    _______

    This incompetent foreigner owes her job to the prosecution team and should really be deported.

  • anarchyst

    The “prosecution” (read “kangaroo court”) is doing it’s damndest to convict Zimmerman. . .that being said . . .
    One must understand the defective pathology that exists in the minds of almost all urban underclass blacks. You see, “young master trayvon felt “disrespected” for being asked what business he had in that community. (Any ordinary civilized person would have stated that he had relatives there and would have been on his way). His only possible response (due to his defective black pathology) was to pummel and murder Mr. Zimmerman. In this way, he would regain his “respect”. If “young master trayvon” had been successful in murdering Mr. Zimmerman, it would not even make the evening news. It would definitely not be reported as a “(racial) hate crime”.
    Mr. Zimmerman is being railroaded at the behest of the race apologists, poverty pimps, and race hustlers. The prosecutor should be brought up on charges of malfeasance of office for charging Mr. Zimmerman. . .without convening a grand jury. . .

    Why is the so-called “news media” so intent on persecuting George Zimmerman?? It is evident that Zimmerman was “jumped” while heading back to his car and that the “thug” trayvon got what he deserved . . . the urban black “underclass” has a disdain for education, finds “disrespect” under every rock, does not know what REAL “respect” is, and is generally a “menace to society”. The sad part is that the few “decent” blacks out there make “excuses” for the feral black “underclass”. trayvon was “casing houses” NOT going to the store to buy “skittles”. Trayvon was walking between houses, not on the sidewalk . . . he was “up to no good”. Any civilized person would have answered the neighborhood watch guy that he had been visiting relatives, but not trayvon. . . trayvon’s feral underclass upbringing led to his demise . . .

    Here is a message for all you racial “apologists” for minority “bad behavior” . . .
    It is apparent that you have never lived around or experienced the typical urban feral black. I hope you never have to as they would “eat you alive”.
    The black “underclass” is REAL.

    If you want to “expand your horizons” and experience “authentic black culture”, travel the mean streets of Detroit, South Chicago, Gary Indiana, Atlanta or other “refuges” of “authentic black culture”, preferably at night. I would prefer that you go unarmed, as this will add to the excitement of your “adventure” . . .
    Your outlook on what you now consider “racist” will change in a hurry. You will find that minorities (especially blacks) are “racist to the core”.

    “saint” trayvon was a thug, casing houses, looking for trouble. Looks like his feral black upbringing did him in. Look at that whole trayvon “family” . . . human garbage at its finest. . .they already hit the “racial lottery” with a million-dollar “settlement” from the “homeowner’s association”. How many people are unaware that they did not report their “son” missing for three days?? I am sure that his “family” was aware of “young master trayvon’s” criminal activity, probably benefiting from it themselves.

  • Dave4088

    Anyone that isn’t black and who has half a brain can see that Zimmerman was the victim in this case. No experts are required.

  • Funruffian

    Nothing pleases me more than to see this bogus case reveal that Trayvon was a feral thug who attacked Zimmerman without any viable provocation. The money his parents received should be returned in full.

    When the riots ensue, lock, load and AIM, my fellow humans.

  • MBlanc46

    One expert says this. Another expert says that. Standard adversarial system testimony. What’s really going to matter here is ethnicity. No black will vote to acquit. Zimmerman’s best hope is a hung jury.

    • There are no blacks on the jury.

      • MBlanc46

        No? I thought that there was one. No blacks does change the situation.

      • MBlanc46

        I had misremembered. The sixth is Hispanic. I suppose, then, that it’s a matter of whether she hates whites more than she hates blacks. How on Earth did they pick a jury without a black?

        • My understanding from something I read somewhere is that any race member of the supposedly murdered can be struck from the jury pool in Florida. It was a jury rule enacted ironically so that if a black murdered a white, a jury couldn’t be all white. Liberal’s laws always come back to haunt them.

          • MBlanc46

            Interesting. That is unintended consequences. I’m still not convinced it means acquittal, but it does help Zimmerman’s chances.

          • Gunrunner1

            Since negro screw their sistas, their brothas, their Aunts, Uncles, mothers, etc. Treyvon is related to nearly every negro in Florida. It is the “no family on the jury” rule that muh dik’ed the prosecution.

        • Sloppo

          It seems to me that it shouldn’t be too hard to convince a hispanic juror to be fair to a hispanic defendant.

          • MBlanc46

            Yeah, if she perceives him as Hispanic, which perhaps she will. Actually, I think I’m more concerned about the whites than the Hispanic. Out of five, there’s a good chance that there’s a “Kumbayah” singer seeking “justice for Trayvon”.

  • tickyul

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    • Spartacus

      I’m Spartacus, and I approve of this message ^

  • YngveKlezmer

    Zimmermann is a folk hero. He was viciously attacked by this violent thug, and did what any of us would do if attacked in such vicious fashion. He defended himself. How can the courts see this as anything but self defense?? The young thug was obviously on top of him, intending to beat him. How hard did he intend to beat Zimmermann? It shouldn’t make any difference. Zimmermann had a right to defend himself, and to assume that this young thug intended to beat him to death. The only reason the case in not closed, and Zimmermann has not been found not guilty for reasons of self defense, is because Trayvon Martin was Black. We all know that Trayvon was behaving in the manner of a typical Negro youth, looking for any excuse to make trouble.
    A respectful, well adjusted youth answers as adult who asks what they are doing and where they are going. The kind of youth who has the nerve to physically attack an adult who asks them what they are doing, when walking somewhere at a late hour, is a juvenile delinquent, and should be treated as such by our criminal justice system. Zimmermann is a folk hero, because he stood up to this disrespectful young delinquent thug, a typical violent Negro youth out looking for trouble. In a just society, no youth that does what Trayvon Martin did should be granted any respect. He was a common criminal and street thug.

  • No black jurors because GZ is the defendant. His lawyers had the run of the joint of doing preemptory challenges of prospective jurors, which means that if any blacks were available, they could send them home instantly. It’s only the prosecution that isn’t allowed to do preemptory challenges of prospective jurors that are of the same race as the defendant they’re trying to string up. Meaning Corey and Co. couldn’t do preemptory challenges of potential Hispanic (or should that be “white Hispanic?”) jurors.

  • Snow

    Lol

  • Sick of it

    It’s pretty weak to start throwing in assault charges when a man shoot another in self defense. Conviction of that alone would, once again, nullify the right of self defense.

  • YngveKlezmer

    Well said!! He represents our cause. Also, we must not underestimate how this may manipulate much Hispanic sentiment regarding Negroes, and how Mestizos viewing Negros as a threat can help us. With their numbers swelling so rapidly, I would much rather see Mestizos taking a stand against Negro violence instead of a stand against us. Mestizos may do much of our dirty work for us with the Negroes if they take a strong stance against the Negroes. As long as that stance is not against us Whites, this could be a real blessing for us. After all, these are the descendants of the warlike Aztecs and Incas. If they unleash their fury on the Negro, they may just put the Negroes back in their place for us. In this scenario, the greatest fly in the ointment might be pro-Negro White Libtards.

  • capnmorgan5150

    That’s true, but the defense is standing by their guns saying convict on the charges or cut the client loose. We’ll see what happens tomorrow morning.

  • capnmorgan5150

    We are doing something. This website is a really good start. It’s a place where we can band together and share our outrage at what the blacks are doing. I have no doubt that most of the people who post on this site would stand their ground against a criminal like Trayvon.

    • Tom_in_Miami

      Excellent point, but we are so behind the curve that it’s going to take a lot of catching up.

  • Spartacus

    We’re Latins. Real ones, not mestizos 🙂

  • plaintruthforidiots

    The whole thing is a set up from start to finish – aided and abetted by the Jewish media, using pictures of an 11 year old Trayvon Martin, to garner public sympathy – the whole purpose of this going to trial, and the extensive media coverage, is to try to disarm white people, so that the Jews’ foot soldiers (blacks) can carry on their murderous rampage against us with impunity. THAT is why all of this is happening. If you aren’t naming the Jew, you are part of the problem.

  • MBlanc46

    I hope that you’re right regarding acquittal. And if Zimmerman’s acquitted, blacks rioting would not break my heart. Black riots would create a good number more race realists as they expose themselves for what they are.

  • MekongDelta69

    George Zimmerman = Bernie Goetz

  • Evette Coutier

    When a white tourist accidentally took the wrong exit in Los Angeles, they were murdered as they drove into the black area. The media said they were in the wrong neighborhood. Black, without sympathy, said they shouldn’t have been there in the first place. No outrage from the media or government for what amounted to racial assassination. No reason, no cause, pure and simple racial murder. If Zimmerman is convicted of any crime, the public statement will have been made: no justice for whites, only guilt for being white.

    • Chinese American

      Zimmerman is nearly as far from being white as I am—-all the same, I get your point.

      • Spartacus

        What’s a chinese doing on Amren ? Are you an uncle Tom-chu ? 🙂

        • Chinese American

          What am I doing on Amren? Having a bit of fun. Most of the posts, including those of Mr Taylor’s are laughably absurd —-it is interesting to read the views of those who will soon be cast on the scrap-heap of history.

          • Spartacus

            Keep dreaming yellow man. The white race has been through worse situations that this, and we pulled through. Remember, your country went to war against Portugal, a country that you outnumbered 100 to 1, and you lost. You lost because they were white, and you were not.

            I have a great sympathy for the yellow race in general. I watch asian movies, read asian books and even eat asian food once in a while. But if most of your country-men think like you, then I’m afraid I’m gonna have to just put you on the list of enemies, and deal with you as enemies should be dealt with.

          • Perhaps as a Chinese-American, you could go ask historian and fellow Chinese-American Iris Chang about “historical scrap-heaps”.

            As I recall, she became an expert on historical scrap heaps outside Los Gatos, CA some years ago.

      • Evette Coutier

        @ Spartacus , most Asians I know are as disgusted with the behavior of blacks as whites are. Often even more so. They are not the problem in America. They work hard, don’t commit crime, and largely uphold high moral values. They have almost no out of marriage children, they don’t live on welfare, and they demand good behavior and performance from their children. They, by all reasonable standards,should be accepted as alias.

        • Spartacus

          I think you mean “Allies” not alias. I’ve read through some of this guy’s posts, and if the majority of asians think like this, then they ARE a problem, and they will have to be dealt with accordingly.

          • Evette Coutier

            I was mistaken to defend him. He is a bozo and you were correct. I don’t think he reflects the majority of Asians. I still feel most Asians are in line with our thinking, but it seems once young Asians become Americanized in our colleges and universities, they become left wing losers. How unfortunate.

          • Spartacus

            Don’t look for allies among non-whites. I personally have great respect for most asian nations,for their culture and their way of thinking, especially Japan, but at the end of the day, the only people you should trust are your own.

          • Evette Coutier

            You my be right. Unfortunately, numbers seem to be working against us, and a trustworthy allies would not be such a bad thing…so long as they are truly trustworthy.

          • Evette Coutier

            I did mean allies,. I find the auto-correct on my Kindle annoying.

  • cancerous bananna

    Did you also notice hoe the AP mis-quoted Dr. DiMaio’s testimony by reporting that st. treybon lost the oxygen reserves to his bloodstream within 10-15 second.. rather than the testimony which was that the brain ran out of oxgen..
    No doubt to further bias the public by focusing on the wound and not the fact.

  • MBlanc46

    It is indeed a sad day when you can’t call a watermelon a watermelon.

    • The__Bobster

      Or an enwerd like Treeboon an enwerd.

    • Snow

      Hahahaha

  • Spartacus

    That think next to the White man looks like a Klingon with AIDS.

  • Spartacus

    I’m sure in her mind, she was doing the right thing… That’s what these “people” “think” :

    • Magician

      Who on earth in his or her right mind threatens to kill babies?

      • Spartacus

        Blacks. And they keep their word when they get the chance, like they did with this white baby in South Africa, whom they wrapped in a newspaper and set on fire :

  • Tom_in_Miami

    Black aggression is out of control and the authorities (for some reason I don’t understand) give them full authority to do as they wish with whites, Asians, and now Hispanics. While this story dominates the news, what ever happened to the negro who shot the baby in the face and killed him?

    • John Smith

      Modern liberal media won’t cover it. They won’t cover the Obama Administration’s support and arming of the worst elements amongst Islamic Jihad in the Middle East committing genocide on Christians either. Total black out speaking of which you saw Obama’s new Executive Order that he can shut down all communications in the USA upon his request right?

  • Alexandra1973

    Seems to me Trayvon GOT justice….

  • [Guest]

    Her Honor’s decision to permit the jury to consider manslaughter charges strikes me as another play into the hands of the prosecution. And it’s no great surprise. Judge Nelson seems to have been acting as assistant prosecutor throughout this show trial.

  • Spartacus

    If it were me, they would’ve never found the corpse.

  • If GZ’s lawyers did preemptory challenges of all the blacks, which they had the legal right to do, then the prosecution would not have had any prospective black jurors available. Both the prosecution and the defense have to agree on the jury pool.

  • The media know exactly what they are doing. Explaining these facts to them will merely give them a good laugh.

  • YngveKlezmer

    He is not a White Hispanic, certainly not. A White Hispanic, I do believe, is referring to a person of full European descent who hails from South America. Argentinians are almost entirely of pure European descent, unique in South America, thus their country being very nice, more like Spain and Portugal than the non-White dominated cess pools of South America.

  • My mother is under express orders to stay with my sister and babysit. My sister finally got her college-educated cowboy, and that’s close for our mother.

  • This ad is just telling me not to buy anything from A & F. If Land’s End shows a similar ad with humans and Africans, we’ll drop them.

  • From an engineering perspective, a firearm is really just a heat engine with a non-captive piston. That’s as sterile as I can make the terminology.

  • Snow

    A & F is a profit driven business and maybe they wanted to appeal to the black market and the liberal market