Trayvon Martin Drug Photos Can’t Be Mentioned, Says Judge

Russell Goldman, Yahoo! News, May 28, 2013

Lawyers for George Zimmerman will not be permitted to mention pictures of drugs and guns found on Trayvon Martin’s cell phone during opening statements in Zimmerman’s trial for murder next month, a judge ruled today.

At a hearing today in Sanford, Fla., Circuit Judge Debra Nelson set some of the rules for what will be a closely watched trial scheduled to begin on June 10. {snip}

Zimmerman, 29, is the neighborhood watch captain who is accused of fatally shooting Martin, 17, last February. He is charged with second degree murder and has pleaded not guilty.

Zimmerman’s lawyer argued that Martin’s marijuana use and history of fighting was central to proving that Zimmerman acted in self-defense.


Nelson said that evidence would not be permitted in opening statements, but left open the possibility it could eventually be submitted during the trial.

The judge’s decision comes days after Zimmerman’s lawyers made public the contents of Martin’s phone, including pictures of marijuana leaves, a .40-caliber hand gun, and a photo that appears to show Martin smoking pot.

The defense also posted online, texts Martin sent about getting into fights and being kicked out of his house by his mother.


O’Mara said the evidence was essential to combat an early narrative of the case reported by the media .

“Public opinion was swayed by a false presentation of this case from the beginning,” he said. “The Martin family, through their handlers, presented a picture of who Trayvon was and who George was that is wholly inaccurate.”


Given the scrutiny the case has received, the judge said witnesses could not be asked whether they believed Zimmerman’s prosecution was politically motivated.

Another hearing to determine which scientific evidence, including information about the texts and photos found on Martin’s phone, will be admissible is scheduled for June 6. {snip}


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  • anarchyst

    One of the most important things to learn from this case is the absolutely essential need to take back our media from the 5 or so people in the world that have a monopoly on all media. It’s the most important and most effective tool being used to advance genocide against whites….reaching into every corner of our world, especially an ironclad lock on politics and control of all other people who fear for their public image. Even more sinister is the way that TV reality trumps actual reality.

    Here we have a clear cut case of black evil and violence. A gated community surrounded by a high fence. A large black man with no business being there, hopping a tall fence and covering his face to avoid being identified. There is literally no other explanation for him being there than he intends to commit a crime. And the fact that he actually exerted alot of effort to break in is a major clue that he intended a violent crime (ie a home invasion, aggravated rape or worse) as opposed to simply snatching something of value he happened across. It’s not like he came across an unattended bike and decided to hop on. It’s no different than if you walked downstairs and some black man had entered your home through your backyard door. People who do this in broad daylight expect people to be home. They expect it and intend to harm them. Martin was much more likely a would be rapist/murderer than a typical thief.

    He was caught red handed by someone who lived there. Who was given the specific task of guarding the property and calling the police. He was on the phone with the police and a witness was present. Martin attacked him. He hit him in the back of the head. Was he trying to escape? Unlikely, since he got on top of him and beat him about the head and face, over and over and over again. Such a thing is attempted murder. Clearly, pulling a gun and shooting a much larger person in the process of beating you to death, is self-defense. Perfectly legal (for now) in all 50 states. This is an extreme case of self defense. It would not be any more clear if Martin was stabbing his victim in the heart when he was shot.

    The media portrays Martin as a child. Going out of their way to lie about this and posting pictures everywhere of Martin when he was 13 years old. They have blacked out all mention of Martin attempting to murder Zimmerman by beating him to death. They have literally edited the 911 recording to omit the clear recording of Zimmerman screaming for help as he was being beaten to death. They have blacked out the fact that a witness saw all this happen. They even have whitewashed the fact that Martin was on the wrong side of a fence, obviously engaged in crime at the time this happened. Instead they portray a little kid being bullied by a man with a gun as he walked home from the store, then coldly shot to death for no reason whatsoever. AND THAT IS WHAT ALMOST EVERYONE IN THE US THINKS HAPPENED. Somehow, the “stand your ground” law supposedly allowed Zimmerman to get away with a cold blooded murder and blacks intend to riot until that law is overturned and Zimmerman is railroaded into prison. And that is portrayed as just rather than the extreme evil and prelude to civil war that it is. If the media told the truth, not a single person would support any of this stuff.

    Which is the point. The media has been doing this for two generations if not four…..literally turning our country from an enlightened republic to a degenerate anti-white communist banana republic.

    Fixing this require taking back our media and holding those responsible to account for what they have done. THAT is the most important thing. If we want justice. If we want change. If we want our country back and for white people to “wake up”, we need to take back the media, either through alternative media that out-competes traditional media or a soviet style nationalization of our media.

    • Tim_in_Indiana

      …we need to take back our media

      The Internet was supposed to do this, and it may still do so. Unfortunately, it may be too late.

      • gordon ramsey

        To tell the truth we are taking back the media. Millions are dropping cable and going to Netflix. I can watch Birth of a Nation on Netflix.

    • Anon

      And who are those people? Are they white? A random mix of races? Anything about them, cough, stand out as definitive of who they are or explain their common motivation?

      If you won’t name them, how could anyone even resist them, let alone do anything about it?

      If you want to effectively fight your enemy, let alone defeat them, you must at least name them. And this, white people refuse to do. And no….I do not mean just the specific names of the five worst of the worst. Gather them up and throw them in jail and another five will just show up and take it from there. They represent a group.

      Name them.

    • JohnEngelman

      A gated community surrounded by a high fence. A large black man with no business being there, hopping a tall fence and covering his face to avoid being identified.

      – anarchyst

      On the day Martin was fatally shot, he and his father were visiting his father’s fiancée and her son at her townhome in The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, a multi-ethnic gated community, where the shooting occurred.

      Trayvon Martin had the legal right to be at the gated community.

      • anonymous_amren

        Your anti-racist brainwashing makes you a sucker.

        Trayvon was there to burgle, beat people up, and use drugs because he was kicked out of school at the time for burglary, beating people up, and using drugs. He was not there to obey the law.

        • JohnEngelman

          We do not know what Taryvon Martin was planing to do. I suspect he was planning a crime, but I cannot prove it. Neither can anyone else.
          My point was that he did not break into the gated community. He had the right to be there. He was visiting his father’s fiance.

  • Jefferson

    Trayvon Martin was just acting like what a typical 17 year old Black yoof acts like. The vast majority of them Black yoofs act very ghetto, they are either thugs or wish they were thugs.

    I notice that even a high percentage of middle class Black yoofs act just as equally ghetto as their housing project Sistas and Brothas.

    The ghetto mentality in Black yoofs is high no matter what their household income is.

  • JohnEngelman

    When the media first told this story they were terribly irresponsible. On the six o’clock news they flashed a mug shot of George Zimmerman and a photo of Trayvon Martin that was several years old.

    No one looks charming in a mug shot. Trayvon Martin did look charming. He was flashing an angelic smile. The implication was that Trayvon was a sweet, innocent choir boy walking home from a Bible discussion group when a brutal racist shot him just to watch him die.

    • ncpride

      Not to mention how foolish black congress members behaved. The guy with the hoodie, claims that innocent Trayvon was ‘hunted down like a dog’ and murdered, etc, etc. Stick a fork in this poor fella, because he is done. The facts will not matter, and logic and common sense will not prevail.

      • Korpiklaani

        Facts, Logic, and Common Sense are White-European characteristics, not African.

        • “Facts, Logic, and Common Sense are White-European characteristics”

          Not anymore sorrowly

      • Denver Goddess

        Foolish black congressman? “Guam be tippin ovah!”

  • The__Bobster

    The AA judge knows that without a kangaroo court, the natives will riot. She doesn’t expect that to happen in the White or “White Hispanic” communities, no how badly she treats Zimmerman.

    • Korpiklaani

      You nailed it brother. Watch the outcome of this trail closely friend, if Zman goes down the groids will no that they can do whatever they want and all they have to do to avoid punishment is riot, they already feel they should be untouchable legally.

      I don’t care if Zimm burns or not, the real show will be when the economy finally collapses, not this sham of a trail. The only good thing about a not guilty verdict, and the ensuing riots is even more patience towards the groid will be extinguished, no race will have ANY tolerance for them afterwards.

      I can’t wait till the economy collapses…

      • I don’t care if Zimm burns or not

        I actually agree.
        I could care less about Zimmerman on a personal level. He’s just another out place third worlder to me. His fate really does not bother me one way or another.
        But what I DO care about is the way that this case has been used by the media and the left to attack gun rights and victim-friendly self defense laws as well as drum up anti-White racism. That’s why I hope this ends well. That’s why we need an aquital in this trumped up show trial.
        Sadly, we probably will not get one. My prediction is that Zimmerman will walk on the murder charge. The prosecution tried to scare Zimmerman into a plea bargain by filing an inapropriately harsh charge. (that is a pretty standard thing) But the defense called their bluff and now they are stuck with a charge they will not be able to prove. The problem is that the DoJ will hit him with a double jepordy type civil rights charge that will most likely stick. (remember the cops in the Rodney King case?) The bottom line is that the guy is going to get judicially lynched to placate the whims of the left’s favorite pet minority group.
        Sad byt true.

        • Korpiklaani

          That is why I have said, and will say again, the economic collapse will be the only thing that allows us to “clean house”.

          I also agree with the fact this is a perversion of justice.

          • Yayzoos

            The economy is coming back. You’ll need to find another splinter of hope in this gloom, bro.

          • Korpiklaani

            LMFAO! How many trillions of fiat federal reserve notes have we flushed away in the last 20 years LOL! Whats the deficit again?!?!? Bwahahaha! You stooge, have fun with the upcoming wiener roast fool.

          • dogbone


            U.S. government debt is almost 17 trillion

            U.S. unfunded liabilities is 124 trillion. <—- This is the real debt.

          • Booger

            Mostly thanks to the mulatto prez. He has racked up more debt than all other presidents (all white) combined. Like most black folks he is an expert at spending white people’s money.

        • Denver Goddess

          One black on that jury means he doesn’t walk. If that black let him go, that black is marked for death.

      • Freey’all

        Why don’t you care if an innocent man is lynched? If there is a slavic union that’s underground could you describe it more…or at least attitudes in eastern europeans towards diversity cult in general terms. I really want to know.

        • Korpiklaani

          I only care about Whites…

          Alright now. First I’m Slavic through my Hungarian, and Polish ancestors, and I personally know distant family members, and older E.E. that live in St.Louis that survived the Bolshivek Communist Soviet Union. Everything that made them “White” had to be hid from Government commissars, religion, racial/ethnic pride, free speech, that is how they it describe it to me, that all those traits and habits that follow them had to me practiced underground. That means a Slav will back another Slav before he backs any one else.

          If you would like to know more about the Slavic Union, type into youtube Slavic Union, go to Wikipedia and type in Slavic Union. It’s is the greatest underground White National Socialist Movement ever created, and it was set up by the Russians, and the Polish Slavs, it has now spread even into Germany. I have donated money, and bought t-shirts from their website, before the Russian Government made them take it down.

          Us Slavs have had to fight for our very survival ever since we were the ancient Thracian tribe, All Slavs descend from Thracians if you want to know Slavic history you will have to go back to that mighty tribe.

          • anonymous_amren

            And you aren’t smart enough to see how this affects whites??

          • Denver Goddess

            I’m entirely of Central and Western European origin. We’re all white folks, and we’re all in this together.

        • Korpiklaani

          Here is a video that might help.


          • NM156

            They look like regulars at the Bim Bom Lounge, 5226 W. Belmont, Chicago. If you stop in, say hello to well-endowed Edyta. She’ll buy you a few shots of Wisnowka.

          • Korpiklaani

            Nincs elég vodka a világon, hogy engem, hogy kötelezzék a buzi módon.

            Google translate that from Hungarian….I dare you.

          • estonian

            Hungary is a slavic nation you say?
            Perhaps you should check your roots a bit more …

          • Korpiklaani

            Yes, because there are no Slavs in Hungary. Right?

          • estonian

            There are slav minorities everywhere, including in Hungary, that doesnt make Hungarians slavs though. Hungary is almost 100 % ethnically homogeneous. Lucky nation in that way.

          • Korpiklaani

            There are about 16 different ethnic groups in Hungary, the ethnic Hungarians are Magyars, I’m part Magyar myself. However most of that side of the family ARE Hungarian Slavs though, should we not have pride in that? Slavs are the 3rd largest minority in Hungary after Roma, and German. The Slavic peoples played a vital role in saving Hungary from the Ottoman Empire. Slavs have been recognized by the Hungarian government for our contributions to the great nation of Hungary.

      • Keep Honkin I’m Reloading

        “I can’t wait till the economy collapses…”


        This will never end, until it begins.

      • Romulus

        You got it. You basically hit the nail on the head.The “economy” is the key. Presently it is being artificially propped up by large injections of stimulus money,when in reality it is nothing more than the building and servicing of suburbia. There are 4 indispensible fuels to industrial capitalism. Oil, coal,liquid nat gas,and uranium. Without them in enough supply to match scale of consumption and growth,the model will not work no matter who we elect. Previously, i posted a summary overview of the calamity the west is facing in a discussion with mr. Lechat. Although the bakken field has a potential of 7.4 billion barrels of oil,hes doesnt quite get the particulars of how the resource is recovered,processed,refined and delivered to the end user. The marcellus shale LNG IS WHAT IS USEDas the feedstock to initiate and continue the process,yet the xl pipeline as a delivery system for refinement is not yet complete and the resource must be MINED first unlike a conventional oil field . America usesmillions of gallons per day and is the anchor of the global economy. Our consumption supports 2/3 of the worlds economies. Thus any disruptions in supply will have drastic effects no matter what happens on the demand side. So the govt is preparing for the instability associated with a post peak fossil fuel based system. For further analysis, see M. King hubbert,colin j. Campbell, kenneth s.deffeyes. The long emergency by james howard kunstler, the end of oil by paul roberts, the first six issues of nat geo 2011. These sources are just for starters. I have intimate knowledge of of the energy industry after my tour in the desert (storm) and present occupation. So, yes, a collapsing economy will DEFINITELY have the desired effect of creating a medium of change. It is not possible to give 7.2 billion people the american dream nor to sustain indefinitely the gigantic levels of consumption the west currently enjoys.

      • Denver Goddess

        Economic collapse changes nothing. It was far worse in the Depression and Dust Bowl years. People were eating wild rabbits and salted tumbleweeds.

    • MadMike

      Do you think it would make a difference if the Majority of Whites and White Hispanics knew the real truth?

  • Unperson

    On what GROUNDS are you basing this decision, Judge? On what GROUNDS? The grounds that black people can’t handle the truth, and you’re afraid they will riot, and when they do your name might be dragged into it by the media?

  • Mr. E

    This will be unpopular to say here, but legally the judge (per the Rules of Evidence) was correct in not allowing that character evidence to be admissible.

    • sbuffalonative

      I’m usually torn on this one.
      On one hand, a person’s past may reveal why they acted as they did. Is there a pattern?
      On the other hand, if I was on trial for a crime (or the victim), I would want to be judged by the circumstances of the case before the court.

      • RileyDeWiley

        There is a lot of settled legal precedent on these issues. I don’t know what it directs in this case, but the judge will be acting within some pretty bright legal lines that have been laid down long ago.

    • Freey’all

      Huh? This is a trial to find out what happened between Z and M that night, and finding out as much as possible about M is necessary to do that. Pot use is relevant, as it can lower inhibitions and therefore cause aggression, and other character issues relate.

      • Mr. E

        Just because there’s evidence suggesting that Martin was a weed smoker doesn’t mean that he was high on weed during the altercation. An autopsy of Martin was conducted. If he were high on drugs at the time of death that would presumably show in the autopsy results, and that evidence would be admissible because it would be relevant to Martin’s state of mind at the time of the altercation. Character evidence is generally inadmissible, and evidence of past crimes are also inadmissible if they are being introduced solely to show propensity to act in kind.

        In Florida the governing evidence rule is 90.404 Character evidence; when admissible

        • Freey’all

          I’ve seen multiple sources stating that the chemical for pot was found in Martin but that toxicology can’t ascertain when it had entered his system and that it could have been either two days or maybe even longer since he had smoked it.

          From what I’ve seen of judges they make decisions with a very broad
          stroke of ‘discretion’ and therefore often make or break cases.

        • Flaxen-headed Strumpet

          It’s all moot Licenciado. At least 80% of any prospective Florida jury pool already has read or heard about St. Trayvon’s illustrious past or will be curious enough once seated to check it out, notwithstanding any instructions from the judge.

          Prosecution will go for two hung juries max. Z’man will walk a broken man and there may be a chimp out after its all over.

          • MBlanc46

            I hope that your prediction is right on both counts. Riots would once again reveal Negroes for what they are.

    • MBlanc46

      I’m sure you’re right. But legal niceties aren’t going to decide this. The composition of the jury will.

      • QuinnTheEskimo9

        You are 100% correct as we learned from the OJ trial. No amount of hard evidence backed up by irrefutable DNA was going to change their racist minds. As far as they were concerned, Nicole got what she deserved for “stealing” one of their men, Goldman was another “white honky” (even though Goldman was Jewish) in their eyes, also deserving of being slashed to death.
        Blacks will insist on their presence on the jury and the best we can hope for is either a hung jury or a mistrial.
        What it will be, though, is a miscarriage of justice

        • Funruffian

          That is one of the true and few reasons why I would attenuate that not all Jews are complicit in supporting the Black Plague. If they were willing to offer Goldman as the ‘sacrificial lamb’ then maybe there is hope they are not all pro-Black.

          • Denver Goddess

            Just a disproportionate percentage of them.

  • Rick Parish

    My 10 hour workday always is finished off with a walk at our local park with my beautiful wife Patti and all of our adopted dogs, we talk about our day, and the dog loves it. In 2008 the/our park was invaded by verbal threat from non-whites at the Basketball court of all places, for a short period, in your face. I took my 38 there ever since, very sad. It only lasted for a few months, I am not going to back down from this. My wife is not sound on this, but I am protecting her and my dog and me.

    • sbuffalonative

      The left says that ‘racism’ is born of ignorance. They’re wrong. Racial awareness is born of experience.

      • QuinnTheEskimo9

        There is no group more ignorant or racist than lefties, and it starts in the white hut, DOJ and offices of the NY Times.

      • Denver Goddess

        I’m a former leftist turned preservationist and race realist. They’re wrong.

    • me

      Take the basketball hoop down. If they put another one up, take the basketball hoop down again. And again. It works! No basketball hoop, no ‘urban yoofs’.

      • NM156

        Yep, we put up a library where basketball courts once stood on an elementary school lot. The “basketball players”, often armed and selling dope, were not from anywhere near our nice, quiet, white neighborhood inhabited by white cops, firemen, and nurses.

      • Tim

        So simple!! Why didn`t I think of that…

      • QuinnTheEskimo9

        Excellent idea! Must be how a rich neighborhood near me got its bantus to pack up and leave.

  • joemcgee

    All lucid people knew this was coming…

  • A Freespeechzone

    Make NO mistake that Zimmerman will be railroaded & minorities will be further embolden to attack and murder Whites.

    This is a direct result of support and, in my opinion, behind the scenes efforts of the DOJ and Barack Obama.

    Being White will become more dangerous now that self-defense against a black thug will be ruled as a hate crime.

    I don’t care, I am still armed and will ALWAYS defend my person and my family.

    • sbuffalonative

      I’m not sure about the outcome yet. I will reserve judgment until the trial begins.

      If the defense shows deliberate ignorance, negligence, and incompetence, then we’ll know the end was pre planned.

    • Freey’all

      Your post causes me to think he might get off, as it may well form the ultimate tipping point in the US. Diversity’s best strategy would be to exonerate him and therefore keep whites placid and ignorant.

      • Denver Goddess

        But Florida is scared to death of a grand mal chimpout.

  • White Mom in WDC

    Every institution of our American society is against white people. Nothing will change until the system is bankrupted. The judge has been paid off, it’s that simple. This is not America, this is third world Amurkistan. So we hit em back by disengaging from the system.

    • QuinnTheEskimo9

      Nothing will change until the entire system is reduced to ashes and those responsible for its genocidal, anti-white agenda righteously punished.

      • White Mom in WDC

        That is why white people need to engage in civil obedience by doing cash based work and developing a stealth economy among themselves.

        • QuinnTheEskimo9

          This is already happening in my area. Also what must happen is a complete utter rejection of the anti-white system that is already in place. Refuse to be a part of it as much as possible, hire and buy from whites whenever possible, use cash, get your kids out of the government indoctrination centers known as “skoolz.”
          Ask every day: “Is it good for whites?” “Is it good for whites?”

  • Funruffian

    It is doubtful that Zimmerman will get a fair trial. Even if he is not Guilty of 1st degree murder, which he isn’t, they will try to pin the blame on some other indictment like ‘Involuntary manslaughter or Murder in the 2nd degree.
    I hate to be so cynical as to write him off as toast, but we need to be aware that there is mounting evidence proving he acted in self-defense. The pictures, the 911 call, the market video of Trayvon acting like a disoriented druggie, etc. are all there.

    • They want to hang a felony on Zimmerman because that way his gun rights are in the toilet, and in Florida, he’ll never be able to vote again even after he’s off paper.

    • Homo_Occidentalis

      Murderers do not call 911. George may have been antagonizing Tray Tray a little, but not enough to merit the vicious assault that ensued. In the same situation, I would probably have shot him too. He had no idea how far Trayvon would take it.

    • QuinnTheEskimo9

      None of that will be allowed in court. Only the narrative that “white” racist, Zimmerman, stalked an innocent black child for no other reason than the color of his skin. Trayvon, once he saw the gun, was so frightened that he screamed like a banshee for 42 seconds before Zim murdered him in cold blood.

  • MekongDelta69

    I said this all over the Net when this story broke:
    George Zimmerman is a dead man walking – no matter what the facts are.

    I WISH he weren’t, but I KNOW he HAS to be sacrificed by ‘The Powers That Be,’ b/c they don’t want a race war.

    What’s that old expression?
    “All men are created…” (something or other – I just can’t think of that word that has been expunged from the ‘New Utopian America.’

    • Denver Goddess

      He was convicted on the streets in the hood months ago. He’ll have to spend years in hiding and change his name as well as leave Florida.

  • Tim_in_Indiana

    In all due respect, mentioning Martin’s drug photos wouldn’t amount to a hill of beans. The outcome of this trial hinges on ONE THING and one thing ONLY…the racial composition of the jury. If it’s stacked with blacks, Zimmerman is toast. It’s as simple as that.

    • gordon ramsey

      That would not be a Jury of his peers now would it.

      • Nick Gherz

        It will be a jury of no_limit_nigga’s peers, not Zimmerman’s.

    • JSS

      Agreed. Not even pictures of Traybon eating babies with a side of skittles and tea would help Zimmermans case if the jury is stuffed with teens and youths.

    • MBlanc46

      It doesn’t need to be stacked with blacks. It only needs one to prevent acquittal.

  • dd121

    So this is a black judge? Wonder why the defense team didn’t try to change the venue and at least get a white judge? Probably asking too much to find a conservative one.

    • jane johnson

      No, A strange-looking (think janet reno) white woman. Now that I think about it, the “special” prosecutor is a pretty strange-looking white woman, too. She’s out of Jacksonville, where I live, and has been accused of improprieties in the past, usually involving controversial or high profile cases. Going for man 2 in the Zimmerman case may be her biggest overreach yet, and I hope it comes back to bite her in her fat, publicity-seeking a$$.

  • Mel

    There is still much talk even today about Martin Luther King and his I have a dream speech. You know the one where he says, “I have a dream that my four little children
    will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character”. Well I guess we will have to wait a few more years for his dream to come true because Trayvon Martin’s character will not be allowed in a court of law and if I was his parents I wouldn’t want it to be either. It appears we must judge him by the color of his
    skin, poor misunderstood black youth and convict Zimmerman for being a racist White Hispanic. I know what the evidence shows, to a reasonable degree and I use to think that Zimmerman would get a fair trial and walk, but another side of me says when the government wants you, you got no place to hide, your gone. What an injustice but this should not deter us from protecting ourselves and families from the Trayvon Martin’s of the world. Mel

  • Herman not Cain

    Zimmerman is being set up to take the fall. The gov fears black riots. Cheaper just to sacrafice Zimmerman.

    • RileyDeWiley

      They need to fear white riots, then.

      • Keep Honkin I’m Reloading

        Why are we still insisting he’s “White.”

        • Denver Goddess

          WE aren’t.

      • Denver Goddess

        We should be rioting – tons.

  • sbuffalonative

    Here’s Zimmerman’s arrest record:

    On the bottom of page 2, Zimmerman is listed as White.

    • Jefferson

      In the criminal justice system there are only exists 2 Nonwhite races, Blacks and Asians. Everybody else is classified “White” on their arrest record.

      • Denver Goddess

        Indians are one group and then there’s Pacific Islanders and Eskimos.

    • Denver Goddess

      Latinos are routinely listed as white in crime data. Check out the DEA’s most wanted and see these Mexican nationals with dark brown skin be called white boys. Racially they’re Mongoloids. There is no excuse to call these people white folks.

  • HJ11

    The highest probability will be a hung jury. Hispanics on the jury will understand that Zimmerman acted in self defense and won’t vote to convict.

    • MBlanc46

      There will surely be blacks on the jury, so acquittal is almost impossible. A hung jury will likely lead to a retrial. They’ll keep re-trying him until they get a jury that will convict him.

      • Denver Goddess

        Yep – I don’t trust black jurors for 2 seconds to be impartial.

  • Anon

    Everything about this trial is flagrantly illegal.

    Here is what Yahoo news won’t tell you. First of all, Florida is a “stand your ground” state. That term refers to a series of laws fast becoming a standard for most states. It specifically extends the same standards for self-defense as you have in your own home to any place you have a legal right to be. Zimmerman lives in a gated community. He lives in that community. Martin did not. He was a trespasser. The standard for use of lethal force to defend oneself was the same for Zimmerman as if he had been inside his house and discovered Martin inside.

    What conditions allow you to use lethal force. What is the minimal standard. One is surprise. If a criminal leaps out at you from the shadows, the law, in every state without exception, recognizes your right to shoot if that happens. Since this entire incident was recorded by the 911 operator and Martin, did in fact, hide from Zimmerman and, did in fact, leap out from the shadows to attack him….clearly, by this one fact alone, Zimmerman had the legal RIGHT to kill him. But that right was, in fact established earlier. Alot if made of Zimmerman confronting Martin, who then fled while Zimmerman followed him… if Martin retreated. He did nothing of the sort. Had he left the gated community, maybe. But he did not. If you discover someone in your house and you demand that they leave or get down on the ground and wait for police and they do not, you have the legal RIGHT, recognized in every state in the US to shoot that person. Zimmerman discovered Martin trespassing. He demanded Martin stop and he called the police. Martin did nothing of the sort and, instead, ran off somewhere into that gated community. It’s no different than had some criminal you discovered in your house, ran off to another room of the house rather than leave. Their refusal to leave triggers the right to use lethal force. Martin, did in fact trigger this, early in the confrontation. At this point, anything except fleeing that gated, enclosed area or giving in to wait for a police presence, literally, and legally gave Zimmerman the ironclad right to kill Martin on the spot.

    That is the standard…not if he was in fear for his life. Not that he was openly attacked (both of which do apply by the way). Not that Martin clearly intended to murder him by nature of the force applied (crushing one’s skull by smashing it against the pavement most definitely is attempted murder). All those elements, although present, are not necessary due to the “stand your ground” law.

    This is WHY the police cheap did not arrest Zimmerman. What he did is spelled out in Florida law as LEGAL. There is no grey area. You can doubt the more severe elements if you want to but that is irrelevant due to the way the law is written.

    And here is the real issue. The law is clear. But Zimmerman was arrested anyway. He was not even arrested by the authorities. Those that arrested him are NOT empowered to do so. And he’s not being tried under the circumstances he has a right to. He is literally being railroaded in a kangaroo court. The latest manifestation of which is the most damaging and even humiliating evidence to the prosecution is, in flagrant opposition to all laws, federal, state and local, being disallowed. Literally, the jury is being manipulated by allowing the prosecution to LIE about the facts of the case and not allowing direct, irrefutable evidence to the contrary, to be presented.

    There is no rule of law in the US….not anymore. Not only are criminals a protected class with few to none being seriously punished but law abiding citizens can, and are arrested, tried and possibly convicted at a political whim.

    THAT is the new normal. Something all people, one way or another are forced to contend with.

    My recommendation? Live in parts of the country where large groups of people are heavily armed and unwilling to cooperate with this.

    • RileyDeWiley

      Don’t see how Zim was ‘standing his ground’ when he was flat on his back. He doesn’t need that law; ordinary self-defense should cover it.

      Just sayin’

      • MikeofAges

        That’s correct. This is not and never was a “stand your ground case”. Zim even let Martin beat on him for a minute hoping the cops, who already were on the way, would arrive. Only when Martin saw Zimmerman’s gun, verbally threatened Zimmerman’s life and then tried to get control of the gun did Zimmerman use the weapon to defend himself. My argument is that the case against Zimmerman actually is what Martin’s defense would have been had he killed or seriously injured Martin, i.e. imperfect self defense. The problem is, imperfect self-defense means that the person believes that he is threatened when he is not. So it is hard to see how you can stretch that around to say that a person is deprived of the right to self defense when they are attacked by someone acting on the pretense that they are endangered by that individual.

        Zimmerman may be guilty of some crime or another. But not the one he is accused of.

        • RileyDeWiley

          I think you meant “…had he killed or seriously injured *Zimmerman*”.

          Looking from Zim’s perspective, he had every reason to think Martin was a threat. Whether Martin did or did not think that Zimmerman was a threat is legally irrelevant.


          • MikeofAges

            Your correction is noted.

            If Martin was on trial, what he thought might have been an issue, or at least his lawyer would have tried to make it one. I don’t think Martin’s prospective defense would have had much of a chance of succeeding. How can the same be the basis for a prosecution?

            My point is that the basis for the prosecution is the argument that Zimmerman’s actions were so extreme that it was reasonable for Martin to react as he did. Even then, would someone lose the right to defend themselves?

            If Zimmerman is guilty of something, he is being charged with the wrong crime.

  • Freey’all

    What are you going to do, DB, besides sit around making wisecracks?

  • Jefferson

    If George Zimmerman goes to prison, would the Aryan brotherhood there treat him as an honorary White person and have his back out of respect for defending himself against a thug Bantu ?

    • crowley


    • nobody

      I know that I would have a beer with the guy. He doesn’t seem so bad.

      • QuinnTheEskimo9

        Agree. I’d welcome 1,000 George Zimmermans in my neighborhood. AFAIC, he’s a hero.

    • PesachPatriot

      I’m no expert in prison politics(I try and stay out of trouble for the most part) but from the documentaries I’ve seen on TV if Mr. Zimmerman isn’t offered protection by the AB I’m sure La Eme, the mexican mafia will probably be watching his back….he might just be put in to protective custody as soon as he gets there too.

  • 48224

    Let’s keep count of how many white males are allowed on the jury. If there aren’t enough, we should protest!!! As if……lol

  • me

    I’m not too concerned with this case, but I am perplexed about one thing….why aren’t the tribe stepping in and defending Zimmerman? Isn’t he one of their own? Is it because he’s part Peruvian? Is that why the non-goy media was painting Zimmerman as ‘White’? The Marxist Zionist Matrix is getting too confusing….

  • Luca

    Just like the OJ trial, it must be manipulated to not hurt the feelings of black people. OJ did it and got away with it by the machinations of the LA County DA’s office who appointed the worst judge and most inept prosecutors and moved the venue “downtown” to a jury comprised of 11 blacks and one hispanic. SO much damning evidence was suppressed it’s not funny.

    I have a “wait and see” attitude on this one. I’m thinking GZ will probably walk on the criminal charges, but the civil rights lawsuit will be a three ring media circus whereby GZ will have to turn over every penny the rest of his natural born days.

  • StillModerated

    Maybe all those gun-toting Florida crackers will show up at the court house in their monster trucks and unleash a few dozen gators on to all the noisy, protesting, purple Canadians and their pet camera crews. Now that’s a show I’d pay to see.

  • traro’von martions

    zimmer might ice himself then the whole thing does not even matter

  • dogbone

    “DB wrote – What are white people going to actually DO if Zimmerman is sent to
    prison (and he WILL be going) for at least 90 days? White people are not
    going to do anything except get flash mobbed this weekend.”

    Not an F’in thing – like usual.. They may talk about how wrong it is, and that someone (someone else) should do something, but very few people will do anything.

    It wasn’t the evidence that was banned, IT WAS THE TRUTH.

  • AnonymousTruther

    So typical, really. Welcome to America 2013 where the fear of being called racist is more important than delivering a fair trial with all relevant evidence.

  • nobody

    New development in the George Zimmerman murder trial. No evidence will be allowed whatsoever. Mr. Zimmerman shall not be permitted to testify. There shall be no cross examinations on the part of the defense. Also, baby pictures of Trayvon will fill the walls of the courtroom and surround the exclusively African American jury. After being found guilty he will be delivered to the malt liquor fueled mob that has gathered outside of the court room to deal out a hearty steaming helping of justice, Congo style.

  • mrcan

    Zimmerman is not White. He just has a White name.

    • MrGJG

      True, but he’s playing one in this case.

      • Denver Goddess

        No, the media cast him as one.

  • Frank Wheeler

    I feel so sorry for this guy George Zimmerman because he should never have been arrested in the first place. This whole media circus of a trial is a travesty of justice to begin with. I pray that Zimmerman is not going to be sacrificed at the altar of political correctness. Zimmerman was simply a man who was defending himself against an out of control thug who couldn’t go run an errand to a convenient store without causing trouble. I can imagine the riots if and when the correct verdict comes in. We have all seen this movie before and know how it will play out.

    Of course the irony of their violent behavior would be lost on them.

    • Denver Goddess

      Yeah but he married a white chick so seriously, screw him.

  • Greg Thomas

    On the outside chance, he beats this murder rap, he would be wise to high tail it out of the country before Eric “my people” Holder slaps him with a federal indictment. We
    all know it’s coming.

    • MBlanc46

      A civil rights suit in case of an acquittal would not be a big surprise.

  • D. H. Andews

    I was watching Headline News tonight(5/30/13) and watched Judge Larry Seidlin, who presided over the Anna Nichole Smith death trial, who said: “You can mark my words and I say that GZ walks out of the courtroom. He walks in this verdict”.
    I’m not a lawyer, but I will say one thing. The verdict will depend entirely on the racial make up of the jury. I was naïve enough in the O.J. trial to believe that the 10 Black woman, 2 other, jury would do the right thing and convict – particularly in light of the Mt. Everest of incriminating evidence presented by the L.A. County prosecution. I was as shocked at the acquittal as was everyone else I knew. That seminal event further solidified my conviction that Black juries are inclined toward “jury nullification” – no matter how convincing or complete the evidence or skill of the prosecution – which involves a Black defendant. I think it had a similar effect on convincing other Whites, who suffer from incomplete race realism, not to be surprised at anything a Black jury does to protect one of dey bruddahs.

    • MBlanc46

      It will be a reverse O.J. Simpson, all right. His trial was an important step on my road to race realism.

      • Denver Goddess

        46, that tends to happen when you get beyond the information-poor version of information the media and schoolteachers give you. Life is not an equals sign.

  • In ten years the negro race will be extinct! They will be completely wiped out by those that have had enough of their stupidity and savagery.
    Even in Afreaka there will not be a single one of these assclowns left alive. Afreaka will soon be the home of Arabs, Chinese and Whites – no blechs alive!
    Believe it! Whites are not the only ones that have had enough of blech power. The Hispanics like Zimmerman are cleansing the SouthWest of this vermin as you speak!

  • Dave4088

    Looks like El judge is aiding and abetting the special prosecutor and Trayvon’s family. And if by some miracle Zimmerman is acquitted we will be treated to violent black mobs shrieking “no justice, no peace” a la the LA riots and there will be a week long special of “Black in America” on CNN. Lastly, Eric Holder will retry ZImmerman on federal civil rights charges so as to sate the blood lust of black America.

    This desegregation thing isn’t working out for us whites.

  • QuinnTheEskimo9

    Zimmerman’s being railroaded. The state has already declared Zimmerman guilty and will make sure he is convicted. Show trials and kangaroo courts have long been a tradition among totalitarian regimes.

    Kangaroo Court: A kangaroo court is “a mock court in which the principles of law and justice are disregarded or perverted”. It is essentially where the defendant has already been deemed guilty, and has little if any opportunities to object or defend himself or herself.

  • high tech

    Anybody who doubts Obama is not rigging this from the gitgo like he everything else without exception on the phone with the judge and state is without a brain.

    Remember the revenge factor in this radical islamic socialist muslim white male hater in the last selection. Revenge for what? Being stupid to buy African rejects off tribal chiefs and ship them to the west to destroy white western society worldwide once the marxist viper became involved with his platform and his tool peasant Lincoln? You know they were rejects because they never sold off zulus or pygmies or other warrior blacks.

    Why is Obama cutting funding for advanced technology at NASA and other places? Is he deathly afraid with the others that time travel will be invented so erase their prized possession of unneeded slavery and his existence to keep the west white only as it should have been? African slavery was a sales gimmick only. Einstein proved time warp travel was possible before he died but they still say the earth is flat and flight is impossible and man never went to the moon too.

  • Jackryanvb

    It’s mob justice and the brutal reality is we need to get much better and cou tearing mob power, forming our own counter mobs. Julius Caesar effectively used the mob to defeat the mob. Napoleon and a certain Austrian corporal were pretty good at contesting power this way. English Defense Leage, Serbs, Russians and now Greeks are at least competitive in this area.

    Post World War II White Americans have been terrible in this area, falling back on guns that are never used and old White Constitutions that are never honored.

  • Jackryanvb

    Let’s get a George Zimmerman local activism project going here on Amren:

    Compile contact information of local Florida police, elected officials, even local media.

    Engage, educate, don’t spam – the evidence is overwhelming in support of Mr Zimmerman.

  • Ella

    Hispanics in Southwestern States do not exactly align with the Blacks. Interesting enough that La Raza has not responded much to Zimmerman being a Mestizo, but I bet they don’t want to touch this high-profile media case after Zimmy was labelled as “White.” Americans need to start using and identifying with the term “mestizo” as Brown like South America.

    • Greg Thomas

      La Raza only cares about mexicans, especially the reconquistas. They have no skin in the game with Zimmerman.

    • Denver Goddess

      Latinos hate blacks; their activist groups ally with black activist groups against whites. It seems that border control is considered a form of oppression and so all these poor Latinos need all these racial advocacy groups.

  • ratamacue76

    They (meaning the court/legal system) will do everything they can to keep Trayvon’s troubles out of the trial to paint him like saint. They have already deemed Zimmerman guilty and they will bend over backwards to make sure that is the verdict they get. I would not doubt that they stack the jury in Trayvon’s favor.

  • Moe

    Stop It!
    Trayvon had found The Lord, that very morning.

    • Funruffian

      I disagree. I think he found Satan in Hell.

  • Michael Mason

    The trial is lost for all idiots who still think little angel trayvon was innocent. Our worry needs to now be focused on security for the coming flash mobs in black retalliation of an innocent verdict for Zimmerman.

    Oh, wait… They do flash mobs all the time anyway.

  • anarchyst

    One must understand the defective black pathology that exists within the black race. (John Engleman doesn’t get it).
    You see, “young master Trayvon was “disrespected” by Mr. Zimmerman for being asked what business he had in that community. Any ordinary white, Hispanic or Asian person would have stated that “he was visiting relatives” in that gated community. That would have been the end of the conversation and he would then have been on his way.
    Young master Trayvon was REQUIRED (by his defective black pathology) to “gain back” his “respect” by pummeling and possibly murdering Mr. Zimmerman.
    “Stand your ground” does not apply in this case as young master Trayvon was ON TOP of Zimmerman, beating his brains in . . .

    • Don

      Well said. Bravo. Bravo.

    • nobody

      To tell you the truth, I would have told him to go suck a ****. But then again I am not exactly a social butterfly. I definitely wouldn’t have attacked him for no reason though, only if he got too close to me.

      • Denver Goddess

        Zimmerman was too fat to truly pursue Martin.

  • Exoplanet Finder

    Hopefully those Papa John’s Pizza Drivers are selected for the jury.

  • Alexandra1973

    You can’t unring a bell…if prospective jurors have heard about them….

  • PesachPatriot

    Why is it that millions of white teenagers(and adults) across this country smoke weed every day but somehow miraculously manage to avoid being shot by neighborhood watch guys? The pictures don’t really have that much to do with the fact that trayvon responded to a simple question from a legitimately concerned homeowner with an assault….I’m no legal expert but it looks like GZ clearly had the right to defend himself from an aggressive, out of control teen with a history of getting in to trouble…

    • Denver Goddess

      Because they don’t chase them down and pick fights and punch their lights out?

    • MBlanc46

      It looks to you like. It looks to me like. But blacks on the jury will see an innocent youth, an athlete and no doubt aspiring rapper, hunted down and mercilessly murdered by a racist thug.

  • Funruffian

    The meaning for whites is: if you have any dispute with a Black and it screams racism for any reason, a large portion of the white community will 100% support your being legally or illegaly lynched as a racist. This whole fiasco is a cold-blooded lynching conducted and engineered by the media.

  • Don

    This is scary. They are making sure he goes down for this. An innocent man FORCED to prison by the Africans. It’s getting scarier and scarier. Us white devils beez in da trubles cuz da black mans is angreez dat his ancesssstorz was da slavez to da raycisss white cracker devils. Weez notz stoppinz tillz we getz r 40 acrez mudda fugga. Power 2 da ppl!

  • Paleoconn

    Only his cherubic pics of when he was 12 or younger with Hollister tees and play dates and riding his trike (NB please photoshop the sling blade in junior’s pocket for the trike pic).

  • anarchyst

    IF Zimmerman is acquitted (as he should be–the “case” should never have come to trial), look for eric holder and his minions to file “civil-rights (for some)” charges against Zimmerman. This may be the only way our (illegal) government can punish Zimmerman and assure that he is incarcerated.

  • Denver Goddess

    OF COURSE this prosecution is politically-motivated. They’re trying to stop a grand mal chimpout.

    • jane johnson

      Guess the million bucks Crump extorted from the homeowners’ association wasn’t enough to appease the mob.