Liberal Writer: Saving Minority Babies Is Racist

Ben Johnson, Life Site News, September 4, 2012

The pro-life movement’s desire to save children of any race is a secret manifestation of racism and constitutes a war on “minorities and the poor,” according to a writer for The Atlantic.

Brian Fung, who serves as the prestigious magazine’s associate editor, made that claim in an article entitled “The Quiet Racism of Abortion Bans.”

Fung wrote the Republican “war on women” is “really an attack on women of a specific stripe: those from disadvantaged minorities and the poor.”

“An abortion ban would disproportionately affect women from non-white and low-income backgrounds,” he wrote, proving the pro-life movement’s “inherent racial and socio-economic unfairness.”

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Critics find his analysis too clever by half.

The blogger William Teach wrote, “That’s exactly what the GOP is attempting to do, to make sure there are more Black, Latino, and other minority children not being aborted so that the country will have more Black, Latino, and other minorities because we hate Blacks, Latinos, and other minorities.”

Fung is not the first journalist in the prestige media to equate the pro-life movement’s zeal to save unborn minority children with racial enmity.

The Washington Post Dana Milbank wrote in late May that Trent Franks’ Prenatal Non­discrimination Act risked “alienating Asian-Americans” and stemmed from “Franks’ ­paternalism toward minority groups.”

However, pro-lifers point out racism seems to be alive and well among abortionists.

Ashutosh Ron Virmani, an abortion provider in Charlotte, North Carolina, boasted that he aborts “ugly black babies.”

“Ashutosh Virmani is a brazen racist and his statement supports what we already know of the billion dollar abortion industry—black babies are targeted because they are seen as poor, worthless and maybe even ‘ugly,’” Day Gardner, president of the National Black Pro-Life Union, told LifeSiteNews.com.

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  • alas

    Due to the fact that non-whites have far higher pregnancy rates amongst single woman who did not want to become pregnant, I think it is obvious we should make abortion as easily available as possible; it is the only thing preventing their birth rate from sky-rocketing and hastening our doom further.

    • Puggg

       The root of that theory is a book called Freakonomics.  It’s a controversial theory that not everyone believes, not because the non-existence of blacks doesn’t mean a lower crime rate, which I think is obvious, but because the abortion racial statistics are unreliable and all over the map.

      • Steve Sailor has a blog post summarising that chapter’s refutation straight away, as soon as it was released.

        Not surprisingly as people like Charles Murray had effectively debunked it before it was even written – abortion is simply dysgenic for an ethnic group because smarter people are more likely to override their gut instincts and ‘end pregnancies’.

        • Puggg

           I take a different viewpoint.  I think that fewer black births will in 15-20 years lead to less black crime.  That’s plain as day.  But the reason I don’t buy the Freakonomics theory is because I don’t know for sure which races get abortions.  I’ve seen statistics all over the map.

          • That’s because what statistics tells you depends on the sampling. That’s why I hate it when people throw a statistic into an argument without a context.

    • blight14

       I agree and it should be fully taxpayer funded…….In addition, there should be an immediate offer of $35,000 to any minority, male or female, that will submit to voluntary sterilization…….that 35k would be pennies on the dollar……

      • alas

        Hear hear! Or let them have one or two kids before the sterilization. This would balance their need for a family life and the happiness kids bring etc. without sacrificing our right to not being made to go extinct in the next century. Go say that on television though…

  • Gues

    The more non Whites aborted the better. Both pro and anti abortion fanatics admit that if it were not for abortion black criminality would be back in 1960 and 1970 levels.

    Just one more reason why White nationalists should have nothing to do with such conservative causes as abortion, guns, gays, taxes, etc.  They will not help us, so why should we help them?

    • Jerrybear

      That’s a great philosophy. One that will guarantee that whites will not unite. The Republicans are cowards when it comes to race but what exactly is the alternative?

      • There isn’t one. Maybe we should view conservative vs liberal in three ways – social (ie culture wars), economic and foreign policy.

        Socially a WN has no choice at all but to be a conservative – not only are conservative states demographically healthier, due to social attitudes and policy, but everything about the positions taken by the liberals in the culture wars, is intentionally an assault on explicit or implicit whiteness.

    • Ulick

      “Just one more reason why White nationalists should have nothing to do with such conservative causes as abortion, guns, gays, taxes, etc.”

      I agree with your point about white nationalists not making a big deal out of abortion and gays, but I disagree about us not opposing taxes or supporting gun rights.  Taxes are a legitimate issue because white tax money supports welfare programs that are disproportionatley non-white; and we’ll eventually need the guns.

      • Puggg

         I think what Gues means is that if you support anti-tax and pro-gun causes, you eventually wind up running into organizations that pander to non-whites.  The NRA is so scared of racism accusations that they don’t exactly ride to the sound of the guns, they ride in the other direction.  Pro-life organizations pander to blacks.

        • I disagree. The NRA is cognizant of the fact that Bantus commit most of the murders in this country. What it wants is the ability of every decent American to defend themselves and their families against such criminals, In the landmark McDonald v. Chicago case, the lead plaintiff was a Bantu, named Otis McDonald, who sought to defend himself against Bantu criminals in his Hyde Park neighborhood in Chicago, with a handgun. But he couldn’t, because of the city’s draconian gun laws. NRA wanted a Bantu as a lead plaintiff, so it could show that crime was worse in Bantu areas, and that “decent” Bantus needed to defend themselves. NRA gambled that having a Bantu as a lead plaintiff would result in a win, and it paid off. 

          The McDonald decision by SCOTUS meant that the Second Amendment was incorporated against every city and state in the country.

        • Yea that’s how I read it. Though I corrected his incorrect statement from Freakonomics, its senseless to pretend they’re on our side when they’re visibly shifting lift.

          But the very fact they’re our enemies because they’re shifting left, something that must alienate their traditional support base, is a reason to cling on to rightist social positions and call the bluff of people like the Republicans and Tories for not doing enough and for selling out.

      • Abortion will rid us of the gays before it gets banned, that political firestorm will be fun to watch. Can’t say I’ll miss them, though I don’t wish it on them.

    • JohnEngelman

      I see no reason to increase the number of Oriental abortions. 

    • No the first pararaph is not true, it comes from a refuted chapter in a paperback like Freakonomics, that was ripped apart as soon as the book was released. Its author makes spurious and ideologically motivated statements – my favourite is his strange and rather counterintuitive claim than corporate campaign donations do not influence election outcomes. Just another Chicago School loon lol.

      http://shameproject.com/profile/steven-d-levitt/

  • crystal evans

    I agree abortion should be made available in minority areas and affordable. What we are preventing is another generation of young hoodlums terrorizing their communities.

    • Church_of_Jed

      “An abortion ban would disproportionately affect women from non-white and low-income backgrounds,” he wrote, proving the pro-life movement’s “inherent racial and socio-economic unfairness.”

      THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE.

      Banning abortions for Diversity is a war on White Humanity.  We are the ones who will suffer the coming Anti White Auschwitz sooner if more blacks are born.

      • RisingReich

        Banning abortions for Diversity is a war on White Humanity.

        Completely agree.

      • Sherman_McCoy

        More wisdom from the Book of Jed!

    • blight14

       Affordable, how about free, wait, how about free with a cash bonus……!

      • crystal evans

        Sounds good. But I think a cash bonus for agreeing to be sterilized or having the men have a vasectomy is a good idea.

  • JohnEngelman

    the abortion rate for black women is almost five times that for white women. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/gpr/11/3/gpr110302.html  
                                         
    In their book Freakonomics: A Rogue Economist Explores the Hidden Side of Everything, Steven Levitt Stephen J. Dubner argue that the Roe v. Wade decision of 1973 was the main reason for the continuing decline in violent crime after 1991.
                             
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freakonomics
                           
    http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm 
                                             
    The same kind of females who are most likely to give birth to boy babies who grow up to become violent street criminals are also most likely to have abortions. They are poor, poorly educated, unmarried, unemployable, and stupid. Until I read Freakonomics I was opposed to the Roe v. Wade decision. Now I am in favor of free abortion on demand. Think of all the money a single abortion saves on welfare, crime, and law enforcement.  
                                   
    I wish the ghetto thugs who robbed me at gun point and mugged me had been aborted. 

    • The Worlds Scapegoat

       This is why I feel Christ-insanes are far more dangerous to whites than blacks. At least I can see a black person approaching during the day, and I know what he/she is most likely going to do – hurt me. A Christ-insane just wants to create more black criminals that I have to pay for one way or another.

      • Defiant White

        QUOTE:  This is why I feel Christ-insanes are far more dangerous to whites than blacks.

        Well,  I just started reading tonight’s articles, but I feel this will be the most stupid post I will read.

        So, let me get this straight . . . 

        The vast majority of Southern slave masters:  Christians.  Vast majority of Confederate generals:  Christians.  The  original members of the Klan in 1866 to today’s motley crews . . . vast majority Christians.   Most German Nazis:  Christians.  Most ardent fighters against jews:  Christians.  Established a Work Ethic that directly contributed to the Industrial Revolution, the conquering and settling of the New World and the greatest culture the world has ever seen:  Christians.

        Yet to you, the Christians are more dangerous than the blacks.  (By that reasoning, I’m guessing that to you, the Christians are also worse than the jews.)

        Yeah . . . I know it’s a popular sentiment on a couple of so-called WN websites.  But it’s only “popular” because the people who run those websites won’t allow debate.  In any free, open and fair forum, the anti-Christian position gets demolished. 

        (By the way . . . Christians have been the most powerful anti-jewish force in HISTORY.  Now consider that these so-called WN websites have been around for years, accomplish nothing and no one knows anything about their finances.  Yet they go on, year after year, stiffling true WN debate while criticizing Christians.  Who benefits from that except the jews, libs and the Left?)

    • Jerrybear

      Does the plus of minorities aborting their children outweigh the inability for European nations to reach birth replacement levels since the women’s ‘liberation’ movement took hold of the West? Minorities still have more children than whites since birth control and abortion became acceptable in our society. Killing innocents is wrong. Period. Even when they are undesirable minorities.

      • Well, since non-whites aren’t too reliable with using birth control, what are the other possible solutions to this problem? Mandatory birth control injections for women on the dole, and chemical castration for men?

        • Jerrybear

          No government should have that type of power over anyone. It’s not worth the risk of living under authoritarian rule. Stop the assistance to the third world and mass immigration into our country and the numbers should level out.

          • Sherman_McCoy

            How about making them mandatory for welfare mothers and convicted felons?

          • I think my scenario will come to pass before your’s, but it’s not a competition.

        • crystal evans

          What about giving incentives to black women who choose long term birth control options such as the IUD and Implanon? Once inserted by a health care provider, these devices provide birth control for between 3-10 years. These work better than birth control pills because in order for birth control pills to work, they have to be taken at the same time each day. How many of these women would remember to do that?

          • blight14

             In the emergency room I worked in we got a rash of negro teens/young adults with horrible abscesses on their upper arms, no one could figure out what was going on at first…..they found that the womens sires were literally cutting the norplant sticks out of their arms so they could impregnate them…..that is what we’re dealing with folks…..

          • I_loathe_disqus

             Oh, my God…I remember when the arm implants first were made available to patients, back in the early 1990s. Feminists feared that women with visible  implant scars would be targeted for harassment in night clubs and so forth  (“Let’s go try to score with that chick-she has an implant, so you know she puts out”) . In their wildest, most anti male fantasies, I doubt they could ever imagine anything so depraved…

          • crystal evans

            I wonder how many of these women also got infections when they tried to take out their IUD’s?

          • When you say “womens sires”, do you mean the sire of the woman? That would be her father. Are you saying that fathers were raping their daughters? Or by “sires” you mean “baby-daddy”.

            I can see both situations happening, but YIKES either way.

        • JohnEngelman

          Compulsory sterilization for undesirables used to be respectable in the United States. 
                
          I say after Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., “”Three generations of imbeciles are enough.”

        • Sounds good – we already know from issues of population stability that populations aren’t able to regulate their reproductive lives optimally for the good of their community. Indeed people fit to have reproductive rights at all, do not have unwanted pregnancies in the first place.

      • NM156

        What innocents? Walk around the South and West sides of Chicago to witness these one-time innocents you mention-if you can make it out alive, that is.

        • Jerrybear

          I don’t judge unborn children. I understand some minorities are less intelligent, skilled and often more criminally inclined than other groups but that does not warrant supporting their genocide. Seperation can be accomplished without killing anyone. Abortion has affected the white population of the world far more than any other race.

          • blight14

             SOME are less intelligent?

        • crystal evans

          The same for most major cities in this country.

      • crystal evans

        But they will not always be innocent. By the time they are seven, eight or nine years old,many of them would have committed their first crime. By the time they are fifteen, they would have seen the inside of juvi. If they are lucky, they haven’t committed a crime that will have tried as an adult. And once they turn 18, they are seen by the justice system as an adult and end up in adult jails.

      • blight14

         I disagree…….

      • JohnEngelman

        OK, great. Then you get to adopt the illegitimate children of unmarried welfare mothers and violent street criminals. 

      • OPersephone

        “Killing innocents is wrong. Period.”

        That’s nothing more than a superstition. I disagree.

        Also, determining innocence is a process that stems from one’s innate philosophy or worldview. From what point of view is any given person innocent? And from what point of view might their death benefit the world? Those are the questions to ask.

        • And you are using sophistry regarding the definition of innocence.

          If you haven’t done a conscious action, you must be innocent by default, that’s how it works.

          • Persephone Gray

            I disagree. I can think of many instances in which one can be “guilty” of something without doing anything consciously.

        • Jerrybear

          Ah, relativism. I’m not going to get very far explaining morality to a relativist.

          • Persephone Gray

            I’m not a relativist. My morality is defined by three things: Natural Law, ancient tradition, and racial loyalty. My point was, no enemy of the white race is “innocent”, by default. Those who cause the degradation or devolution of humanity are not innocent. I have no problem with people of less advanced races aborting their children, and I have no problem with white women aborting deformed, handicapped or incurably diseased babies. Both of these work for the benefit of humanity as a whole.

      • I agree.

        Its distasteful that so many people here actively want children of any race killed, then again, its distasteful when blacks commit so much crime against whites and no one says the blacks are ‘racist’. I’ll white knight for blacks only to the degree they white knight for me, that’s fair.

        Regarding pro-life and pro-choice in mainstream politics, the same people control both sides of the debate using the same terms.

        What’s more distasteful is that, even here, no one thinks about the white children who die at abortion clinics, and their potential for the race.

        • Jerrybear

           The estimated 50 million abortions since Roe has forced us to import roughly 50 million ‘Hispanics’ to ‘do the jobs Americans won’t do’ as Mr. Bush so aptly put it.  Blacks have always been a problem but they don’t pose the threat of demographic takeover that the ‘Latinos’ do.  Not to mention Mexicans are taught as children that the Southwest was stolen by evil white men.  How is this invasion of aliens good for the United States besides the cheap labor that replaces all the aborted Americans? 

          • Yea, and someone has to do the jobs. Which means abortion prevents sufficient white birthrates to make either blacks or Latinos an unnecessary presence.

            It amazes me people here don’t interpret demographic policies as “does it make more and better whites?”

            On the other hand, as a Britain-based outsider, it seems that secession may be better for all three races in the USA, IMO.

      • Kurt Plummer

        The atheist waves his hand from the back…

        >
        ‘The Lord is slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love, forgiving iniquity and transgression, but he will by no means clear the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, to the third and the fourth generation.’
        >

        http://www.openbible.info/topics/sins_of_the_father

        What if the Deists got it right?  What if, as genetic science is increasingly showing with things like fat and cancer, so-called ‘innocents’ bear the epigenetic imprint of their parents most favored behaviors as instinct?

        IMO, until we acknowledge that ‘innocence’ is an environmental condition whereby those that do not get exposed to crime, poverty and abuse are the only ones who have a hope of living without it’s knowledge upon their active conscience, we put far too much emphasis on absolutes of non-experience.  Women implant something like 25% of the eggs they fertilize (_The 10,000 Year Explosion_).

        If nature doesn’t provide for ‘certain life’ from pregnancy (stress, chemical toxins, etc.), I see no reason to give life itself more value than circumstance does.

        That said:

        1.  Reward birth privileges by tax bracket and penalize those wealthy people who don’t have at least 3 kids.  There is no such thing as ‘2.14’ babies and white women who are willing to under take the 3+8 = 11 year commitment to raising kids to more than latchkey psychosis should be the ones whom whites reward with sufficient compensatory supplements that they have something left over for themselves.  Alternatively, make ‘Housewife’ a living wage subsidy shared by marital contract and government both.

        2.  Acknowledge that some people are genetic bookmarks.  ‘Holding the page’ of humanity open until some descendant can make good on the combination of genetics which lets them excel.  Don’t expect much in trade for that free apartment and lifetime EBT card.  But do demand reproductive responsibility.  This would require facing up to the principle argument which whites have against minorities: namely that they are do nothings.  Better do nothings than 21 kid breeders.

        3.  The sine qua non is not singular but synergistic.  Americans could use to cut back on population numbers.  If the ROW /insists/ on climbing past 12 billion by 2100, while we do not, we will win the endurance game so long as nukes guard our shores.  It will also greatly increase the value of skilled labor again, provided we no longer buy (destroyed currency values) from offshore.  White Americans cannot however stop having that magic replacement number of kids if we are constantly being -dis- placed by hostile invading ethnies.  Stop illegal and legal immigration in it’s tracks or nothing makes sense in the abortion numbers game as you aren’t impacting the consumerist or demographics change attitudes which are the real political drivers behind the ‘poor ethnic X is being genocidally destroyed’ argument.

    • The__Bobster

      Big deal. They are also five times as likely to get pregnant. Abortion is their method of birf control.

      • blight14

         Fine………….it should be available 24/7 and gratis…..

    • crystal evans

      I agree with you 100%. But the pro=lifers seem to think that if we stop black women from getting abortions, they are doing them a favor. But they are not doing the rest of society a favor by giving us another generation of hoodlums and career criminals.

  • I just had a bowel movement and it was racist.

  • Church_of_Jed

    Have you ever wondered about the thoughts inside  J-word abortionists when they kill black baby boys in the womb?

    “Whew, there’s another Diversity that will never rape my superlative J-word violinist prodigy daughter”.

  • The Worlds Scapegoat

    It would be far easier to list the things that are not racist.

     

    • No need for paper, pen, or pixel. Everything is racist if you are White.

  • anarchyst

    Q:  What does one call a black woman who’s had 3 abortions??

    A:  A crimefighter.

  • mike5586

    I agree, and in order to be as non-racist as possible – I propose the immediate implementation of free abortions for non-whites everywhere in addition to making abortion illegal when it would be done to the child of two consenting white adults.

    • Not to be a pain, but what about children that test positive for serious health problems–the kind that result in a burden on the state for 40-60 years, i.e.: Down Syndrome. I just do not understand the current love affair people have with Corkies.

      • The__Bobster

        Right now they can afford to raise veggies.

        • The Worlds Scapegoat

           I don’t think they can.

      • The Worlds Scapegoat

        The love they have is not for the severly mentaly disabled. It is the love of money they can get for creating a mental hospital staffed with minimum wage scum that will take care of those feeble minded veggies. The people who run the mental hospitals don’t work at them. They just charge the government billions to care for them. It is the reason why you always hear about what Hitler did to the mentally ill (actually he didn’t, but that is another story). If you try to stop the people who run the mental hospitals, you are a nazi. I’ll give you one guess who those people are that are ALWAYS in charge.

        • crystal evans

          You are correct. Here in Nashville, TN there recently was several assaults and a murder of patients in the state mental hospital. One local television station showed footage of the staff that was supposed to watch these patients, mostly black, sleeping on the job. This has led to reprimands, suspensions and terminations of the employees involved.

      • Your concept of serious health problems is not euenically accurate; the burden to society caused by a few Downs Syndrome kids is nothing compared to that caused by people genetically predisposed to heart disease etc that are never screened for, and who unlike people with Downs Syndrome, are actually likely to breed and pass on their genes without anything to keep them in check.

        • You’re right; I used i.e. when I should have used e.g. . However, the argument that people with a genetic predisposition to an affliction should not be allowed to breed, is a little shaky. Mostly because a predisposition is not the same as a positive diagnosis. 

  • Church_of_Jed

    “Diversity it a toxic biohazard targeted against White Humanity’s privilege of freedom and liberty.”

    -Rev. Jed DeValleysim, “How it ends for us,” 2009

  • IKantunderstand

    Personally, I’m willing to give them this one. Yup, you’re right! Preventing minorities from killing their babies is racist. So, our apologies, sorry about the racism, and please feel free to kill your unborn children. Besides, those guys who wrote “Freakonomics” were probably on to something.

  • Detroit_WASP

    This is a perfect example of “you’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t”

    Right-wing religious types are nuts for wanting to ban abortions and left wing liberals are nuts for calling it racism.

    Common sense tells you to let them have abortions, Uncle Sam should pay for all the abortions the poor want!   WAKE UP WHITEY!!!

    • ncpride

      You know, as ugly as abortions are, I can’t help but wonder if pro-life groups who want an overturn of Roe v Wade have ever really thought about what that would mean in this country. Thousands of unwanted and abandoned children, women harming themselves to ‘get rid’ of it, a rise in neglected and abused children, poverty galore… The best we can hope for is continued education on preventing unwanted pregnancies.

      • crystal evans

        It will go back to the 1950’s and 1960’s where women with botched abortions flooded hospital emergency rooms and would not tell the doctors that they had an abortion because they were afraid that the hospital would report them to the cops. Actually, it was the support of many of these doctors who did their internships and residencies during this period that helped bring about legal abortion.

        • Served them right.

          If you consider the resulting loss of life and fertility, illegal abortion actually had a more eugenic effect than now when its ‘safe and legal’.
          Any white woman who kills her own child, and anyone who kills it for her, pressures her to do so or counsels her to feel its acceptable to kill it will swing from a rope. Until then we should sniff them out to name and shame online.

  • NM156

    Will aborting gay fetuses, in a not-too-distant future with genetic screening available to all women, be anti-gay?

    • IstvanIN

       No different than aborting a Down’s Syndrome child or any child with a difference.  The problem then becomes what to do with the gay child who wasn’t aborted?   But back on topic, what non-white women do with their pregnancies isn’t our problem.  Or shouldn’t be.

      • crystal evans

        I personally think that most blacks would not abort a Down’s Syndrome baby because the kid would bring in some money being eligible for social security disablity benefits as a disabled child.

        • Bon, From the Land of Babble

          You are correct.  I see them in the schools all the time with their disabled (or not so disabled) children — all mouthy and loud demanding benefits, perks and special accommodations (which the schools roll over and grant at enormous expense).   They FIGHT to have the kid labeled as “disabled” so they can collect MORE government entitlements.

          And,  there is an entire standing army of advocates ready willing and able at any/all times to file ghetto lottery lawsuits against against racist, heartless schools that “clearly discriminate against disabled children.”   (works every time, my district has paid out MASSIVE settlements in these cases).

          For them, it IS all about the bennies.

          Bon

        • ed91

           do blacks have downs syndrome babies?

          I can’t recall ever seeing one.

          • Interesting that, I’ve only ever seen pictures of white kids with Downs Syndrome – HBD?

        • And, as the average Afreakin’-Amurrican IQ is 85, what’s one more standard deviation more or less? (let’s be honest folks. You can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear, and you can’t educate, (nor should you try) those who are ineducable.)

  • Still. Atten-tion!
    The best anti-racism argument is mine!
    The fight against racism is the ultra-racism. In case there is no racism WHO IS GOING TO FEED the blacks!

    • crystal evans

      Don’t worry, they will not go hungry. They will loot the neighborhood stores owned by Arabs and Koreans for food and cigarettes and alcohol.

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        No, they won’t.  Arabs and Koreans will not allow their stores to be looted, especially Koreans who well remember the LA Riots.

        In my area of California, tough Eastern Europeans, first generation and well acquainted with violence and anarchy, own the neighborhood stores.  They have no false illusions about blacks that are constantly shoved down our throats by the govermedia.

        Blacks that tried any looting or flash mobbery around here would never be seen or heard from again.

        Bon

  • Sherman_McCoy

    Because same conservatives have an anti-abortion agenda, and are using the claim that it is racist is a way to get the camel’s nose into the tent.

    • Anonymous

      I think the conservatives today do the “abortion is black genocide” in another attempt to attract blacks to the conservative movement. 

      • You are right, but more importantly its to attract support from middle class Caucasian white knights who don’t like anything against minorities. That’s far more important to the Republicans than are votes from blacks themselves, who they know will overwhelmingly vote for handouts from Democrats anyway.

  • TonyWestfield

    How can someone who is 100% pro-life also be in favor of war?
    Because if the war in question is a just and virtuous cause — the American Revolution comes to mind, likewise WW2, among others — then it can be said that freedom is worth it, even if somebody has to die.

    In the case of war, this means “somebody” multiplied by thousands, of course.

    What makes anybody believe that the aborted babies were going to grow up and be better than the guys who died in the Battle of Trenton or the Battle of Midway?  Heck, I grew up great, and I’m not as good as those war fighters.

    Freedom is worth it, even if somebody has to die.
    Freedom is dying from the disease of majoritarian, non-reciprocal democracy.
    Abortion in our age = Democrat voter suppression.
    Freedom is worth it…

    I just hope Saint Peter isn’t reading this with his clipboard (or maybe now an iPad) in hand.

    • lugdorff

      Just wanted to mention, no Americans died at the Battle of Trenton.

      • TonyWestfield

        lugdorff:

        Can hardly believe that! But you’re right.

        Will change it to the Battle of Monmouth (a Jersey bias).

        Thanks.

    • OPersephone

      Pro-lifers believe that innocence is the all-important factor. Babies are necessarily “innocent” in their eyes, therefore to kill them “for no good reason” is wrong. Once they’re grown up, however, they can be evil and do bad things, like our enemies, whom it is perfectly acceptable — nay, our duty! — to eliminate. I, myself, am not a pro-lifer; I believe the same arguments can be applied to pre-born “enemies” as can be applied to grown-up ones.

  • crystal evans

    I agree but in most states, Medicaid cannot be used to pay for abortions. To me, it is a lot cheaper for the state to pay for an abortion for a black woman than to pay for welfare, food stamps, medicaid and section 8 for her brood over their lifetime.The pro lifers made it difficult for these women to get state funding for abortion. Private funding from the National Abortion Federation and Planned Parenthoods pays for abortions for those who cannot afford it.

  • MekongDelta69

    Saving Liberal writers is ‘racist.’

  • That’s why they do stupid things like that. They think Bantus will go to their churches and more importantly, give them money, if the religious right tells them they saved them from being aborted.

    • OPersephone

      Yep. “It’s the Christianity, stupid.” That’s what’s behind both their minority-love and their pro-life stance. The Bible tells them so.

      • No, sorry. I am a Kinist, a race realist, a eugenics advocate (for the non-White races, sterilization, and for the White races, multiple births) and an unreconstructed Yankee- and I happen to be a Priest of God, as well. And I see NO conflict with my positions. Indeed, Authentic Patristic Christianity is what helped INFORM me to the place I am in, today. 
         What you presume to BE Christianity, (in your comment above), ISN’T.Both because it (Ee-van-jelly-cull Xtianity) is no longer following the Mosaic law, the anti-miscegenation clasuses of the Penateuch, nor the liturgical norms set down as early as the Didache, within one generation of the Apostles. Modern ‘Xtianity’ is a CULT as apostate as the Mormons (and who’s the GOP’s nominee- Hmmm?) or the Moonies, and has no more connection with real Christianity- [that which  is covenantal, race realist, non-inclusive of all the non-Euroepan races, and hierarchical, and paternalistic]- than the man in the moon. But then, neither does the Church of Rome…..

        • Persephone Gray

          That’s fine. I have no problem with someone who believes as you do. However, I firmly believe that Christianity was created by Sha’ul as a system for subduing and controlling the Gentile Romans. That’s not to say I don’t believe in Christ; in fact I do. I just don’t accept the Jewish-Roman Bible, organized Christianity, or the non-Aryan Christian “virtues”.

  • whiteuncleruckus

    Are they saying that if Republicans suppoted or encouraged abortions for minorities then they wouldnt be racist? Why does the left have a monopoly on this? Somebody should accuse them of racism.

  • KenelmDigby

    This just shows you how irrational and crazy the debate over ‘race’ is in the USA – and how even more irrational and crazy are those who play up to it all – and make a good living as posing as intellectuals concocting all manner of mad-hatter logic, cock and bull stories that look ‘clever’ on paper, about the subject, because they involve a few clauses, sub clauses, causes and effect etc.
     The upshot is, through the mass of verbiage, deceit and garbage dressed up as intellectualism, whitey is forever the villain and the black man is forever the blameless victim.

    • Robert Binion

      Watching the convention last night, I learned that we can deride God but may not utter the President’s middle name.  Can there be any doubt that Taylor’s use of “pathological” is correct?  Only once have I ever prayed without discomfort and that at a high school football game.  (Jesus, help me.)  It was when over fifty thousand stood to violate a judge’s prohibition of it.  From now on I paganish shall jeer their godlessness, unlearned shall mock their ignorance.

  • blight14

    I find myself agreeing with this leftist……..

  • blight14

     Quite the contrary, I think the practice should be encouraged……and free!

  • Message to you from a young Democrat…

    “Momma Said quit checkin’ yo’ messages and get yo white ass back to work so she don’t have to.”

  • CharlesFinley

    Sounds right to me…except the part about it being cruel.

  • Puggg

     That might be, but the NRA would have even more support if they came out publicly against blacks. Or at least quit pandering to them. Most suburban white women support gun control because they’re grasping at “I’m against blacks” by any other means. When the NRA panders to blacks, a suburban white woman sees black gang bangers playing with guns.

  • Seek

    The sad thing is…yes, they do think this.  That’s what makes them the essence of political stupidity.  

  • Seek

    Part of it is their pathetic need to “broaden their base.”  That’s why white pro-life conservative activists have a heroine in Alveda King, a niece of Martin Luther King, who is an extreme pro-lifer constantly harping about abortion as “black genocide.”   

  • crystal evans

    Currently MS has informed consent laws that means that a woman has to come in the day before her abortion to be told the “facts” of abortion according to the pro lifers. They then come back the next day to have the procedure. This can be a hardship on women who live in rural areas to have to make 2 trips to the clinic.

    • And yet my concern is “does it lead to the deaths, or save the lives, of white babies too?”

      I’m also not convinced you can compare the blacks of Mississippi, the rural descendants of plantation slaves, with the urban blacks of LA or NYC. I’m sure they have very different rates of abortion, illigitimacy etc just as do whites from different backgrounds.

  • currahee1911

    A charity w. a false front: something along the lines of  freeing up the lifestyle of young female darks, i.e. “kick up your heels, spread your legs, girls just wanna have fun.” 

    ‘Why should you be inhibited by the fear of pregnancy?  Let your inner ‘ho out for a good romp, etc. ”

    The promotional stuff could be devised along the leftish lines of freedom of expression or ” release yourself from socially conservative tyrannny”: “who are they to rule your body?, unchain  yourself from this slavery: free at last, free at last……”  And so on.

    The offering would be free health clinics in  dark areas complete with a cash incentive (well, too many people in this world, after all and the darks deserve a break). 

    Probably could actually get Ford or Mellon funding for this venture. 

    Call it the Margaret Sanger Freedom Project.

    And save your ammo for later.

  • MekongDelta69

    You want black abortions? You’re ‘racist.’
    You don’t want black abortions? You’re ‘racist.’
    Every word in the English language is ‘racist.’
    All white people are ‘racist’ and must be eliminated.
    Everything that’s happened in history; is happening now; or will ever happen is ‘racist.’

    Makes perfect sense to me…

    *facepalm

    • You are right.  Chiris Matthews says the word “Chicago” is racist.  Perhaps he could give us a list of words that are racist so we could avoid them.  Butt, that would wipe out half the dictionary.

      • MekongDelta69

        The entire dictionary…

  • Their religion is Equality, their Idol is anyone who is non-White, and their sacraments are the condom and the morning after pill. They are far, far worse than Sodom and Gomorrah ever were; and the Philistines, and their high hill grove sanctuaries for ritual prostitution cannot even compare to the filth of your local ‘hot spot’ for depravity. They’re absolutely NUTS, all of the Liberals. (and a lot of the Republicans, as well.)

    • currahee1911

      Not a religious man, myself; but can you believe that the lunatic Dem delegates actually booed G*d.  Really!  Can’t make this stuff up. 

      Ever see such a mob of howling sluts, drunken darkies, filthy homos and thugs? 

      This Flook, Fluk, whatever, creature is actually given the podium!

      WTF, over.

    • Anonymous

      That’s what communism was.  Communism banned the church because they wanted you to worship equality and the state instead of having a faith in Jesus Christ or Mohammed, etc.

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

         No they banned Christianity (religion frowned upon in general) particularly because in Tzarist Russia, the Orthodox Church was part of the ruling system that kept people poor and in fact fed off them for centuries.  Marx only said that “religion is the opiate of the masses” and proscribed going straight.  Both are historically and psychologically factual and true.  The communist idea was that people work together and share the results, it was the takeover of dictitorial regimes like Stalin’s that changed this to the demand that the citizen worship the state (Stalin is the State and the State is Stalin).  Pure communism is really pure democracy, everyone has a vote and is represented and no one gets left behind.  Of course, absolutes of any extreme don’t work, especially in a closed system, as the classical 20th century communist states were.

        • “the Orthodox Church was part of the ruling system that kept people poor and in fact fed off them for centuries. ” Sigh. 

          Ignorance of Czarist Russia, or reading histories by disgruntled Jews who had a religious animus to grind, from the 1920’s on, help no one to understand. Better to read Raphael Johnson’s ‘The Third Rome’ than rehash this truly Jewish re-writing/H8 “history.”

  • Michael C. Scott

    Brian Fung’s “logic”, boiled down is: “The GOP hates blacks and Hispanics, so it proposes banning abortion in order that there will be more of the people the GOP hates”.

    Hmmmmmmmm.

    If that isn’t already puzzling enough to give any normal individual a migrane, Fung is accidentally admitting that a ban on abortion would disproportionately affect blacks and Hispanics because “for reasons unknown” they are unable to figure out how birth control works, in spite of the fact that whites and orientals –  even horny college students – can reliably manage to avoid unplanned pregnancies.

    • crystal evans

      The only way teen pregnancy can be eliminated is a father who tells his daughter that they will be no babies up in here and will go to check the waste basket in the bathroom to make sure that his daughter has not missed any periods. He will care enough to screen the boys she brings home to date. He puts the fear of God into many of them.

  • Church_of_Jed

    “use against” should be specified as used in the war against criminalized White privilege

  • Anonymous

    I think if you are on welfare, regardless of your race, and if you have more children, the government should say “we only pay for two kids, after that you are on your own” or say “the more kids you have, the more we cut your check”

    • Regardless of race?

      We need more whites not less…

      Terms should be set for welfare recipients, but more whites is better.

    • crystal evans

      This sounds like a good idea but can you imagine the riot that this would cause at the welfare when all these black mothers show up screaming because their check got cut.

  • OPersephone

    Christianity has never propounded the concept of personal responsibility; in fact, its entire theology is based on the exact opposite.

    That aside, none of this really has any relevance to me. I am a radical traditionalist. My values hearken back to an era far before the liberal Enlightenment beliefs upon which America was founded.

    • Then remember the abortion taboo is a cultural universal in some form or other, though in an age before pregnancy tests the presence of another life inside the mother was at most a possibility early on in pregnancy.

      Unblocking menses with a douche etc was not necessarily seen as a mother ending the life of her offspring, which was something unconditionally seen as bad, and was only ever justified in terms that life was not yet present; the atrocity of the modern abortion clinic was unthinkable to pagans.

      • Persephone Gray

        I oppose abortion of healthy white babies. I approve the abortion of unhealthy or suboptimal white babies. In ancient times, abortions were taboo because the likelihood was you were killing a healthy child. People had to wait until a child was born to determine its fitness, and then (usually) committed infanticide upon the unfit. We are very lucky now to have the technology available to detect problems in the womb.

  • Just shows exactly how warped liberal/anti-racist/Cultural Marxist thinking is.

    They don’t like something, ergo it must be rascis’ regardless of either expressed intention or outcome. Truly illogical.

    Mind you I was banned from Life Site News despite being anti-abortion, so they’re not the only twisted ones.

  • And yet the entire pro-choice movement is an attack on whites, especially white males. Liberalised abortion works as it was intended to, so that whites would not get married to other whites and especially not have more children.

    Black people are not the problem, they’re only a symptom.

  • Yea, damned if you do and damned if you don’t… this is what happens if you let the same people control both sides of the debate. Its like two religions accusing one another of blasphemy.

  • crystal evans

    Women who wanted an abortion often had to go to the back alley abortionist who took their money and often left them with infections because of incomplete abortions. Those who lived near the Mexican border went to Mexico to get abortions. There were some good doctors and some bad doctors there. The good ones were referred to other women who wanted an abortion. Planned Parenthood provides low cost services such as cancer screenings and birth control to women who cannot afford to go anywhere else. If there was no Planned Parenthood, where would these women go for help. Without insurance or even if they had Medicaid, most doctors would refuse to treat them.

  • crystal evans

    Who gives free abortions? Most states will not pay for abortions. However, women are able to get private funding for abortions if they are low income. Instead of steralization after the first abortion, I would require an interuterine device such as the IUD to be inserted into the woman’s body. This can last from 5-10 years.

  • TonyWestfield

    Michael C. Scott, this is a knock-out comment!

    I don’t presume that you owe me an explanation, but I’d love to know more. Why the German language? You are age 46, so you weren’t involved in WW2. Were you a German on the east side of the wall? Were you a spy from the West who infiltrated the East?

    Glad the short straw didn’t cause your demise.

  • Puggg

    Blacks wouldn’t do those jobs (at least to the extent you would think) when they existed. Their crime drove these industries out of the cities where they lived. Crime creates poverty, not the other way around.

  • Persephone Gray

    All those concepts in Christianity rest upon a fulcrum of belief or unbelief. Action comes second, and in all mainstream theologies is said to be also dependent upon belief. Belief is not something for which one can be personally responsible, in the usual understanding of that term.

  • Persephone Gray

    Wonderful comment.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    My entire STATE votes liberal!! (California). And, there’ll be no turning back at this point because we have been inundated with dirt-poor, uneducated, unskilled government parasites. There are more of “them” than “us” — the “us” being productive taxpayers who have fled the state in droves.

    It’s only a matter of time before the entire unsustainable system implodes.

    Bon