One of Most Dangerous Cities in US Plans to Ditch Police Force

Andrew Mach, MSNBC, August 30, 2012

One of the most dangerous cities in the U.S. is getting rid of its police department.

Amid what they call a “public safety crisis,” officials in Camden, N.J., plan to disband the city’s 141-year-old police department and replace it with a non-union division of the Camden County Police.

Camden city officials have touted the move as necessary to combat the city’s growing financial and safety problems. The entire 267-member police department will be laid off and replaced with a newly reformatted metro division, which is projected to have some 400 members. It will serve only the city of Camden starting in early 2013.

“It’s not a money-saver, it’s living within the budget you’ve got to get more boots on the ground,” Camden County spokesperson Joyce Gabriel told NBC News. “There has been an uptick in violence this year, and the city decided to go with the county’s police department.”


Given Camden’s exceptionally high rate of violence (the city recorded this year’s 41st homicide earlier this month), city police officers in danger of being laid off say the transition is risky at best.

“We’re concerned, we’re definitely concerned,” Camden Fraternal Order of Police President John Williamson told NBC News. “You’re going to create a police department and staff it with people who are unfamiliar with the city and say, ‘Go ahead and fight crime.’ That’s a recipe for disaster.”

Afflicted by homelessness, drug trafficking, prostitution, robbery and violence, Camden has consistently ranked high among the top 10 most dangerous cities in the U.S. since 1998, according to Morgan Quitno Press, a research firm that compiles statistical data on cities. In 2010, Camden had the highest crime rate in the U.S., with 2,333 violent crimes per 100,000 people, more than five times the national average.


Layoffs of the city’s police force will begin by the end of the month, according to the mayor’s office. County officials said that at most 49 percent of the city’s police officers, based on an application process, will be transferred to the new county division under the plan.

Gabriel said the terms of contract for current officers of the city’s police department, which include longevity bonuses, day-shift differentials and other costs, make it too expensive to transfer all of them to the new force, so the rest of the Metro Division will be staffed by new hires. {snip}

The new division, to be fully funded by the city of Camden and the state of New Jersey, will begin field training on the streets as early as October for a period of 17 to 19 weeks.


[Editor’s Note: Camden County is 60.3% white, 18.5% black, and 14.2% Hispanic. Camden City is 4.9% white, 44.3% black, and 47% Hispanic.]


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  • Kick the can, pass the buck, redistribute the wealth, etc…Once more, PoC failings wind up in the laps of white people.

  • Francis Galton

    To my way of thinking, this perfectly illustrates the Thatcherite admonition that Socialism is great until you run out of other people’s money.  I have little doubt that there are precious few net taxpayers in Camden, but a whole hell of a lot of net tax-eaters.

    That being said, what are we to make of America’s future, considering that its demographics are becoming increasingly similar to Camden’s? Will there come a day (if the Republic even survives that long) where we have to cut off large swaths of the government overnight because 90% of Americans have become brown-hued tax-eaters? Why isn’t this seriously discussed?

    Oh, yeah, because it’s “all the Recession’s fault”! Right….

    • Ulick

      “Will there come a day (if the Republic even survives that long) where we have to cut off large swaths of the government overnight because 90% of Americans have become brown-hued tax-eaters? Why isn’t this seriously discussed?”

      Because discussing that would be raciss!!!

      It’s so, so sad.  Politicians that should be discussing the racial aspect of our decline bury their head in the sand because they don’t want to alienate potential voters.

      Businessmen, famous people, or other people who have clout don’t want to discuss it because they don’t want to alienate potential consumers or ruin their reputation.

      Anybody who is in any position to affect change won’t do anything for selfish reasons or because they lack the courage.

      White America is literally flushing our children’s future down the drain because our “leaders: and far too many whites in general are afraid to be called a word.  There may never have been a weaker group of leaders in man’s history than our white leaders of the past half century.

    • The Worlds Scapegoat

       “Francis Galton – … this perfectly illustrates the Thatcherite admonition that Socialism is great until you run out of other people’s money.”

      Thatcher was no virgin to spending other peoples money.

      • Even of that were true, it does not detract in the slightest from the truth of the admonition.

        Which leaves you making a pointless, illogical and irrelevant ad hominen slur.

  • Guest

    The title is misleading!  Please correct it Amren.  They are not ditching their police force.  They are ditching their ridiculous union contract and making their police go under the county sheriff’s dept contract, which has lower compensation.  This will let them get the same service for less money, which in turn might let them hire more police and support staff.  Bloated union compensation, especially for public safety unions, is a problem in many liberal-leaning areas, but your headline is misleading here.

    • IstvanIN

      The job of a county sheriff’s officer in NJ is pretty easy and safe.  The job of an urban policeman, especially in Camden, is pretty rough.  One usually makes more in a combat zone.

    • Ulick

      It’s MSNBC’s headline.  The Amren moderators don’t change the headline of the original article.

  • So White people who don’t live in Camden are being FORCED to pay for the policing of the brown and black hordes terrorizing Camden?  I guess that’s what the liberals call “being progressive.”

  • MekongDelta69

    Ha – what did I say JUST yesterday (under the Chicago Emanuel article)?:

    There are only two possible solutions to the Catch-22.

    1.) Put ONLY non-white cops in non-white neighborhoods.
    2.) Remove ALL the cops from non-white neighborhoods and let them blow each other to bits. Who cares what the survivors call us?

    I mean, this is just too easy.

    C’mon – everybody over to my house for beer (‘racist word’) and chips (‘racist word’) to watch Chris Matthew’s head explode and Al Sharpton try to blurt out a single sentence without saying, “Uh… uh… uh” while Rachel Madcow is calling him the “Great Orator”.

    Smoke ’em if ya got ’em. (‘racist word’)

    Hey – don’t question me. ‘Axe’ John Robinson. He knows all.

  • IstvanIN

    Even more sad is that I could show you pictures of Camden when my family lived there.  Beautiful homes and row houses.  Department stores.  it wasn’t always a movie set for WW2 films about Dresden and Nagasaki.

    • JohnEngelman

      Back then high school graduates could get well paying factory jobs in Camden. Now they can’t. 

    • FransSusan

      IstvanIN, that could be said of every area that was once inhabited by whites but is now overrun by useless blacks that have destroyed everything that whites built. I could name many places in the Atlanta area to which that same phenomenon applies. Black undertow. It’s all over the country—and in Europe, too. No one wants to face facts. It’s just all blamed on whitey.

  • libertarian1234

    Camden and Newark both are in BIG financial trouble, but so are dozens of other cities throughout the US.

    Stockton,Calif. had to reduce its police force and will probably have to file bankruptcy, because they can’t pay pensions and other unfunded mandates, and they overpaid government workers for decades.  The last police chief retired a while ago….after 8 months employment……and receives a pension of $204,000 annually, with lifetime medical benefits.

    A great many other cities are at or heading toward a Stockton situation, with Detroit probably edging out Stockton slightly as the worst financial disaster area, but many others are very close.  Revenue keeps falling, while the cash outflow to unfunded mandates remains outlandishly high.  Bankruptcy is going to be the only option for a great many of them.

    And the states aren’t faring much better, with California probably the worst.

    With so many top notch experts forecasting a continuing downturn in the economy, I suspect Camden might be looking at reducing the size of their County Metro Division in the near future.

  • TomIron361

    Camden has been broke for years. Only now that the state can’t give them anymore money to keep up the charade that they’re a viable city are they taking a realistic financial step. If they thought they could in any way keep up the smoke and mirrors farce, they wouldn’t take this step.  

  • Church_of_Jed

    Majority-white Camden County takes over Camden City’s policing,

    and we approve, because anything the Diversity Leadership can do to embarrass the Camden County Whiteys who support fat boy social liberal GOP Christie, is doing our work for us.

  • Chimp Master Rules

    Well it’s not like any police force anywhere is really very effective at curbing the coloreds from acting colored so what part of which bureaucracy wields the power is really inconsequential. 

    Cops are merely the pooper-scoopers who move the excrement from this pile to that one.  Our prisons have become the suburbs of the urban ghetto.  The cops are merely the train conductors who move coloreds through the system’s revolving doors.

    Real policing has always been done by citizens.  Although clumsy and untrained, Zimmerman really had the right idea.  He not only stopped Skittle Boy from whatever he was up to that night, but eliminated his entire career of crime.  He also eliminated any potential  future gangsters Skittle Boy would have donated his sperm to.

    There isn’t a justice system in America as effective as that.

    • Up to my neck in CA

      It makes you wonder how many lives Zimmerman saved or rapes or robberies he stopped in the long run.

  • Why is it treated like a bad news ?

  • This is bad, very bad, the next step is to outsource all these minorities to safe, White areas, ala Katrina/NewOrleans. When the rat house collapses, the rats will find greener (Whiter) pastures. 

  • Sherman_McCoy

    “Afflicted by homelessness, drug trafficking, prostitution, robbery and violence, Camden has consistently ranked high among the top 10 most dangerous cities in the U.S.  . .”

    Afflicted with a large black population, Camden has consistently ranked high among the top 10 most dangerous cities in the U.S.

    There, fixed it.

  • Ed_NY

    Another example of blacks unable to govern or manage themselves.  They need YT to rescue them once again.

    • JohnEngelman

       One day I asked the bored, black faces staring back at me. “What would happen if all the white people in America disappeared tomorrow?”       
      “We screwed,” a young, pitch-black boy screamed back. The rest of the blacks laughed.
      I have had children tell me to my face as they struggled with an assignment. “I cain’t do dis,” Mr. Jackson. “I black.”    

      • Anonymous

        Exactly!  That’s why so many blacks hate white people.  They know they can’t make it without us and that makes them feel inferior.  There’s nothing blacks have that I want or admire.  Rich blacks?  They still have a chip on their shoulder and wouldn’t have made all their money had they been living in a nonwhite country.  They are more unhappy than most poor white people I’ve met.

  • Camden isn’t “getting rid of their police force”, they’re just getting out from the higher cost unionized police force. 

  • The Worlds Scapegoat

    ” The entire 267-member police department will be laid off and replaced
    with a newly reformatted metro division, which is projected to have some
    400 members. It will serve only the city of Camden starting in early

    What will be next; a State Police aka NKVD?

    • Up to my neck in CA

      Makes you wonder how many diversity hires this 400 members will be.

  • Does Camden have a professional police force or a dumping ground for otherwise unemployable blacks?

  • JohnEngelman

    It is also what happens when factories close. In his book, “Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960 – 2010,” Charles Murray documents the increase in social pathology among the white working class. 

    When people no longer have a future worth looking forward to, many live for the present.

  • JohnEngelman

    The plutocrats who moved factory production to third world countries with low wages, and lax environmental and labor standards broke Camden. 

    • Michael C. Scott

      Half-right.  The unions did their part.  American unions and management each regarded the other as their enemy, rather than as a co-dependant partner, forgetting all the while that Europe and Japan would eventually recover from the drubbing they took during World War Two.

  • JohnEngelman

    Those “long dead capitalists” have rich descendants who continue to benefit from what their ancestors did, while the rest of us experience declines in our quality of life. 

  • Dave4088

    Our rapid, immigration fueled demographic changes ensure Camden is in the future of every American city, large, medium or small.  Since the majority of whites have a strong aversion to race based, pro-white politics (even though the “For Sale” sign goes up the second a non-white moves next to them) which is the only thing that could prevent this eventuality, it’s only a matter of time before we’re all living in Camden.   

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  • I’m bemused at the accompanying posts by the original article. Around 99% of them are about unions and union-busting. NOT ONE poster there has mentioned the fact that Camden, NJ is a BR swillhole of crime and poverty, and that the Bantus have run it into the ground. They blame  Gov. Chris Christie, Bush, Reagan and capitalism.