Posted on August 17, 2011

Telling It Like It Wasn’t

Ari L. Goldman, The Jewish Week, August 17, 2011

Twenty years ago next week, on the night of Aug. 19, 1991–the night that Gavin Cato and Yankel Rosenbaum were killed–my editor called me at home to tell me that riots had broken out on the streets of Crown Heights. “We’re covered for tonight but I want you to start your day there tomorrow,” he said.

Over the next three days, working 12 hours shifts and only going home to sleep, I saw and heard many terrible things. I saw police cars set on fire, stores being looted and people bloodied by Billy clubs, rocks and bottles. One woman told me that she barricaded herself into her apartment and put the mattresses on the windows so her children would not be hurt by flying glass.

Over those three days I also saw journalism go terribly wrong. The city’s newspapers, so dedicated to telling both sides of the story in the name of objectivity and balance, often missed what was really going on. Journalists initially framed the story as a “racial” conflict and failed to see the anti-Semitism inherent in the riots. As the 20th anniversary of the riots approaches, I find myself re-examining my own role in the coverage and trying to extract some lessons for myself and my profession.

At the time, I was a religion writer at The New York Times and was well connected in the Lubavitch community, the predominant Jewish group in Crown Heights. I was one of probably a dozen Times reporters and photographers on the streets over the course of the riots. {snip}

My job was to file memos to the main “rewrite” reporters back in the Times office in Manhattan about what I saw and heard. {snip}

Yet, when I picked up the paper, the article I read was not the story I had reported. I saw headlines that described the riots in terms solely of race. “Two Deaths Ignite Racial Clash in Tense Brooklyn Neighborhood,” the Times headline said. And, worse, I read an opening paragraph, what journalists call a “lead,” that was simply untrue:

“Hasidim and blacks clashed in the Crown Heights section of Brooklyn through the day and into the night yesterday.”

In all my reporting during the riots I never saw–or heard of–any violence by Jews against blacks. But the Times was dedicated to this version of events: blacks and Jews clashing amid racial tensions. To show Jewish culpability in the riots, the paper even ran a picture–laughable even at the time–of a chasidic man brandishing an open umbrella before a police officer in riot gear. The caption read: “A police officer scuffling with a Hasidic man yesterday on President Street.”

I was outraged but I held my tongue. {snip}

But then I reached my breaking point. On Aug. 21, as I stood in a group of chasidic men in front of the Lubavitch headquarters, a group of demonstrators were coming down Eastern Parkway. “Heil Hitler,” they chanted. “Death to the Jews.”


Suddenly rocks and bottles started to fly toward us and a chasidic man just a few feet away from me was hit in the throat and fell to the ground. Some ran to help the injured man but most of us ran for cover. I ran for a payphone and, my hands shaking with rage, dialed my editor. I spoke in a way that I never had before or since when talking to a boss.

“You don’t know what’s happening here!” I yelled. “I am on the streets getting attacked. Someone next to me just got hit. I am writing memos and what comes out in the paper? ‘Hasidim and blacks clashed’? That’s not what is happening here. Jews are being attacked! You’ve got this story all wrong. All wrong.”

I didn’t blame the “rewrite” reporter. I blamed the editors. It was clear that they had settled on a “frame” for the story. The way they saw it, there were two narratives here: the white narrative and the black narrative. And both had equal weight.

After my outburst things got a little better. The next day’s report began like this: “Black youths hurling rocks and bottles scuffled with the police in the Crown Heights section of Brooklyn last night, even as Mayor David N. Dinkins tried to personally calm the racially troubled neighborhood after two nights of violence.”

But the Times still had trouble changing its frame. {snip}


The other person who spoke the truth [about the rioting] was the brilliant former executive editor of the Times, A.M. Rosenthal, who by 1991 had become a columnist for the paper. Rosenthal was one of the first journalists at the Times to call the riots what they were. “Pogrom in Brooklyn,” was the headline of his column on Sept. 3, 1991, just two weeks after the riots ended.

“The press,” Rosenthal wrote, “treats it all as some kind of cultural clash between a poverty-ridden people fed up with life and a powerful, prosperous and unfortunately peculiar bunch of stuck-up neighbors–very sad of course, but certainly understandable. No–it is an anti-Semitic pogrom and the words should not be left unsaid.”


As someone who saw the conflict unfold I can attest to this first-hand. I am telling my story in print for the first time because it is important that we journalists examine our mistakes and learn from them. Fitting stories into frames–whether about blacks and Jews, liberals or conservatives, Arabs and Israelis, Catholics and Protestants or Muslims and Jews–is wrong and even dangerous. Life is more complicated than that. And so is journalism.

41 responses to “Telling It Like It Wasn’t”

  1. Jack in chicago says:

    I lived in New York City in the late 80s through the early 90s – witnessed the worst years in any “American” city in American history (OK maybe the Irish Draft Riot years were worse in the 1860s).

    There were so many racial horror story/crime stories that should have changed this:

    The Central Park wilding attack, gang rape of the White woman jogger

    The White tourist from Utah, trying to see the US tennis open, murdered on the subway defending his mother from a pack of Black thugs

    The Tawana Brawley Hoax – the start of Al Sharpton

    But the Crown Heights pogrom was unique and it did change New York City history.

    Before this terrible event, Jewish New Yorkers held on to their idiot LIberal politics, voting for Dinkins and excusing virtually every Black crime. Leftist lawyers like William Kuntsler could be counted on to shout with joy to the Press that Black crack dealing, cop shooter Larry Davis couldn’t be all bad if he tried to kill many White police officers.

    After the Crown Heights pogrom, covered up by the press, things changed. Jewish New Yorkers changed, they back Guliani and the clean up like all other White in the NY and the city was restored.

    So, here’s hoping for some type of similar history changing event on American Jewish support for mass NW immigration. I thought the 9/11/01 Muslim terrorist attacks would have brought about this change – but for some strange reason they didn’t – they just got the US to back two expensive foreign wars.

    I hope some of Amren’s solid Jewish readers can give us some news, some hope of a change coming on immigration.

  2. Question Diversity says:

    In spite of the anecdotal evidence that Mr. Goldman provides that the Crown Heights riots were explicitly “anti-Semitic” riots, I doubt that was the large scale motivation for the mahogany mob of one score years ago. They were race riots, the mahogany mobsters wanted white people to attack, and the Jews of Crown Heights, in their minds, were “white” enough (regardless of your own personal take of the “Are Jews White?” question.)

    Let me put it another way — Are we to think, as Mr. Goldman might suggest, that the blacks in and around CH read Hitler’s MK and the Protocols for class projects, and got so mad at the Jews that they decided to riot?

    It was a pogrom alright, but an anti-white pogrom.

  3. olewhitelady says:

    I recently read that Dinkins let the riots continue to allow blacks to vent their spleen, or something to that effect. Years ago, I read that this action, plus the out-of-control crime rate under Dinkins, caused many New Yorkers to vow to never elect another black mayor. Thus voters will customarily cross party lines in order to have only white mayors.

    The MSM is, of course, still using words like “clashes” or “fights” to describe black attacks on whites–when they are actually forced by circumstance to acknowledge that blacks are involved. Another gimmick is to blame injury on happenstance, as in the Onion reporter who claimed that her leg got broken when she fell–as if the mobbers were just running past and she lost her balance. Or black thugs will claim that people “got shot” rather than stating that they fired the bullets, or their liberal apologists will declare merely that “shots were fired”.

  4. Anodyne says:

    Twenty years ago next week, on the night of Aug. 19, 1991 riots broke out on the streets of Crown Heights.

    Don’t forget $harpton’s role in inciting the Crown Heights riots (because the media already have):

    Sharpton declared that it was not merely a car accident that had killed the black child, but rather the ‘social accident’ of ‘apartheid.’ He organized angry demonstrations and challenged local Jews––whom he derisively called ‘diamond merchants’––to ‘pin their yarmulkes back and come over to my house’ to settle the score. Stirred in part by such rhetoric, hundreds of Crown Heights blacks took violently to the streets for three days and nights of rioting. Sharpton reacted to the chaos by stating, ‘We must not reprimand our children for outrage, when it is the outrage that was put in them by an oppressive system.’

  5. GetBackJack says:

    This story reminds of the nonsense that was printed during the civil rights conflicts of the 1960’s and 70’s. Whites all bad, black all innocent victims. This is a typical move often used by communists. Just ask the Russians. You can even ask the older Germans about some of the actions used by the Nazis. They all use propaganda to further their beliefs/intentions. Today, truth and reality has nothing to do with western journalism. Just like politics. And, for some strange reason, Americans believe they are immune to these things.

  6. TruthtoTell says:

    Haven’t people noticed that blacks ALWAYS riot when they don’t get their way? Take a look at the significant riots in this country over the years, and, throughout the 20th century, the big-deal riots were black-initiated, black-led, and against whoever happened to be in the ‘hood — Jews, Asians (Koreans in LA), or even other blacks who owned businesses. Lower class blacks simply riot because that’s their only answer to whatever they perceive to be “unfair to blacks.” They are not intelligent or educated enough to come up with a better answer. They befoul their own nests – and learn nothing from the experience. It will happen again, and again, and again, ad infinitum. Yet the PC libs are trying to tell us these people are equal in intelligence to whites and Asians??? Get real.

  7. sbuffalonative says:

    “Fitting stories into frames . . . wrong and even dangerous.”

    Will the author also help expose and correct the framing of conservative, racially aware whites as racists, rednecks, and Nazis?

  8. Wayne Engle says:

    Mr. Goldman is absolutely right about “frames.” Even at the small-town daily newspaper where I worked for almost 40 years, there was a certain amount of “censoring” — I refuse to call it “editing” — that went on.

    I always hated that — but when you’re a lowly reporter, the editor might as well be “God” when it comes to your copy. Many — not all — editors are spineless people who feel they’ve “made it” and don’t want to rock the boat.

  9. Anonymous says:

    One thing about the 3 day standdown.

    It has been standard police procedure in most countries for at least 2 thousand years. The ancient Romans had a lot of riots, mostly fomented by politicians. They always let the riots go on for 3 days. By that time the looters had their fill and were tired. So it was easy for law enforcement to end the riot.

    During medieval times the Romans rioted and looted every time a Pope died for about 3 days. In some S. American countries there is a small riot every time the government changes, even if the change is a result of a normal peaceful election.

    Of course China, Japan, Russia and other totalitarian states don’t tolerate rioting. They have massive secret service operations that keep track of potential rioters and stop them before the riot happens.

    Really folks, the 3 day riot is part of standard law enforcement strategy.

  10. Anonymous says:

    fair enough, but Goldman is ignoring the fact that the riots were sparked by the fact that a hasidm hit a black girl with his car (an accident, not intentional) and a jewish only ambulance came, picked him up, and left the girl to die.

    The hasdim ambulance driver claimed another, non jewish ambulance was on the way, but still the blatant double standard pisses me off – not to mention it was these groups and others that got the crosses removed from city ambulances.

  11. Anonymous says:

    Goldman writes, “Journalists initially framed the story as a “racial” conflict and failed to see the anti-Semitism inherent in the riots.”

    Goldman needs to take a refresher course on history. It was the Bolshevik Trotsky who started using the term “racism” as a political weapon during the Revolution against the ethnic Russians who dared notice that the leaders of the revolution were top heavy with ethnic Jews. Racism in this context was essentially anti-Semetism-a specific form of racism–which was deemed “anti-Revolutionary,” and punishable by death or hard labor in the Gulag.

    When racism is directed at Jews it’s called anti-Semetism–fair enough. When racism is directed at Whites, it’s called….? Someone needs to come up with a suitable term for this type of racism, which we are experiencing every day of our lives. Anyone have any ideas?

  12. jewamongyou says:

    Are they going to wait another 20 years to call the recent anti-white mob attacks by their correct name: Anti-white pogroms?

  13. (AWG) Average White Guy says:

    • The advent of the Internet has opened a flood gate of information to a culture previously deprived of fundamental facts.

    Those of us who recall the turmoil of the pre-Internet 1960’s race riots are familiar with the biased “reporting;” better described as Goebbels-style mind manipulation.

    • Reading the above comments I’m impressed with the intelligence displayed by AmRen readers. The comments are, for the most part, sophisticated, thoughtful and well-written. It’s reassuring.

  14. Anonymous says:

    “the brilliant former executive editor of the Times, A.M. Rosenthal, who by 1991 had become a columnist for the paper”.

    I read that as, ‘who by 1991 had become a communist for the paper’. My stumble was likely a more correct description?

  15. alex dihes says:

    This a translation of an excerpt from a Russian Jewish paper. I find it is a great advice to the not so smart USA Jewry and other of the same poor mentality Americans.

    The last election you voted for Obama to prove you are not racists.

    The next one vote against Obama to prove you are not idiots.

  16. Anonymous says:

    Dinkins did mention letting them vent for a while. Sharpton was there instigating. It was disgusting. I wonder if Goldman is concerned about racist attacks on Americans of European ethnicity? Would A.M. Rosenthal of the NY Times have cared? It’s off-topic, but the last time Mario Cuomo ran for reelection, his wife Matilda insinuated that there would be riots if he wasn’t reelected. So many on the far-left insinuate and sometimes even outright threaten violence.

  17. Anonymous says:

    I take charges of “anti-Semitism” about as seriously as I take charges of “racism”.

  18. Anonymous says:

    When non whites attack whites, they don’t make distinctions such as, is that one Jewish or is this one Christian. This one wears a scarf, this one wears a hat, etc. I remember this incident.

  19. Anonymous says:

    7 — sbuffalonative wrote at 7:51 PM on August 17:

    “Fitting stories into frames … wrong and even dangerous.”

    Will the author also help expose and correct the framing of conservative, racially aware whites as racists, rednecks, and Nazis?”

    Yes, and will the author also explain why a droll story about some people going after some other people is newsworthy if it doesn’t tell us how we can learn the most from the story presented? I want to know if a mob is white or black because it tells me something of the nature of it and the danger to me it may or may not pose.

  20. Anonymous says:

    This seems the rare exception where the injured parties can’t get along and decide to blame the white man, the ‘real’ cause of all problems.

  21. Jeddermann. says:

    NOT actually a pogrom. A pogrom by definition is a government sponsored riot. The government allowed the violence to continue but did not sponsor it.

    And this Goldman has it 100 % correct. The news depicted the groups as “fighting”. It was not a fight as that term is ordinarily, commonly and generally understood. Was an ATTACK by one group upon another.

    The same thing was done at Jena. It is said that the whitey that was beaten and stomped nearly to death was involved in a “fight”.

    “Fight”. Baloney. A “fight”, an “altercation”, a “dispute”.

    “we are not exactly sure what happened”. These news editors are so clever with the words. And evil at the same time too.

  22. Anonymous says:

    Whites and their interests are always outside the ‘frame’. There is a hierarchy of interests and white men, both as privileged as they are, and oppressive as they are, are at the bottom. We’re well below the occasionally voiced, or in this case framed, interests of Jewish minorities.

  23. Anodyne says:

    They were race riots, the mahogany mobsters wanted white people to attack, and the Jews of Crown Heights, in their minds, were “white” enough.

    What you state is not true.

    The author of the above article is correct: These were anti-Semetic riots,

    specifically and explicitly directed at Jews, not generic whites.

    Before he was stabbed to death, Yankel Rosenbaum, the young Jewish scholar, was chased down by a crowd screaming, “there is a Jew!”, “get the Jew!” finally, in his last moments, he was surrounded by a mob chanting, “Kill the Jew.” Al Sharpton called the Jews of Crown Heights “Diamond Merchants” and told them to “pin their yarmulkes back and come over to my house.”

    Sharpton has a history of agitating against Jews. In 1995, eight people died in a murderous rampage inside Freddy’s Fashion Mart egged on by Sharpton. Picketers from Sharpton’s National Action Network, including Sharpton himself, marched outside the store every day screaming about “bloodsucking Jews” and “Jew Bastards” and yelling “Burn down the Jew store!”

    After weeks of protesting, Roland Smith acted on Sharpton’s words about ousting the “white interloper.” He shot and wounded three whites and a Pakistani, whom he apparently mistook for a Jew. Then he set the the fire which killed five Hispanics, one Guyanese and a black security guard whom the protesters taunted as a “cracker lover.” Smith then fatally shot himself.

  24. Rick says:

    Yet the Jewish voting block for the Obama spoil system is only slightly behind blacks and muslims…

    Why is this?

  25. Reg says:

    I have to laugh at the percieved bogeyman for many on this site. Many refer to a “liberal elite” who control our lives and impose their ideologies on us. They balk at these ideologies and scratch their collective heads wondering how any sane white person would embrase such genocidle madness.

    There is no bogeyman folks, at least not in political office in significant numbers. The politicians backing these genocidle policies don’t support them. They support their continued political office and their desire to stay in office ensures they listen to corporate lobbyists and political lobbyists. With the absence of letters demanding they support pro white agendas from their constituants these career politicians are free to destroy our childrens futures.

    Write a letter your elected representative and express your pro white views. Never insult anybody or any race in these letters. Simply put your needs and those of whites high on the agenda. There is never any harm is making a threat or two along the lines of, if you don’t represent us then we’ll organise someone who will. Don’t be afraid to mention the word white. Keep in mind, no elected person is going to expose anything you write in a letter. That would be political suicide. Pro white agendas are hidden at the moment so no politicain has a clue how many voters he’d annoy if he hurt a pro white voter.

  26. olewhitelady says:

    Anonymous #9:

    I’ve never read that the ancient Romans customarily allowed riots to go on for 3 days. It certainly seems doubtful that they would have let this occur, at least in their foreign provinces! Do you suppose they always allowed the Jews to revolt for 3 days? I don’t recall any of these uprisings petering out by themselves!

    And you referred to the Romans “[d]uring medieval times”. Did you mean the citizens of the city of Rome? The empire’s fall is what brought on the Dark Ages and the Medieval period!

    One thing I do know–before the civil rights revolution, black riots in the U.S. were put down quickly and decisively.

    TruthtoTell #6:

    IMO, blacks riot when they’ve perceived some new freedom or privelege. In their opinion, they’ve never gotten their way. Because of their violent, volatile nature, they tend to have emotional meltdowns individually, and, if other blacks observe that whites are not handling the situation, the former will join in the fracus. Any kind of “protest” will quickly dissolve into looting, raping, and battering.

  27. Sardonicus says:

    Perhaps, some reporters at the Times actually believed, or pretended to believe, that roving gangs of rabbinical students were really knocking down elderly black women and robbing them? Personally, I’ve found that there are more race realists among religious Jews than non-religious ones. Unfortunately, your average black ghetto dweller can only tell a Jew, from any other white person, by the way the Orthodox dress. The murder of Yankel Rosenbaum was initially a racial conflict that quickly escalated into a pogrom. Unfortunately, the demography of New York City has changed so radically that it is only a matter of time before another minority pandering Dinkin’s type mayor takes over city government.

  28. Whitey Ford says:

    Yeah, I can see what the blacks are so upset about. They get free food, free housing, their own scholarships, their own colleges, they get black history month, black entertainment television, even free jobs because diversity is now required by law. With us evil whites giving them so few chances to succeed it is no wonder these poor innocent kids reluctantly turn to rioting and committing crimes. Us evil whites are lucky thats all they are doing. We totally deserve it. We are such bad people for holding down these wonderful black folks. Shame on us.

  29. anonymous says:

    liberals have made it hell on earth here by stupidly trying to promote blacks by affirmative action and welfare handouts…… instead of their intended purposes these actions have set blacks back……

  30. Anonymous says:

    Most Jews I know are disgusted with Obama and see blacks as genetically deficient. Jews are not stupid and can certainly evaluate the studies on black academic and social failure, not to mention simple observation.

    However, there is still some residual effect of past anti-semitism and Nazi atrocities that make it more difficult for Jews to publicly state there is an inherited basis for pathological black behavior. It harkens back to how Nazis claimed Jews were genetically or socially parasitic and hence, to claim another group is that way can be disturbing.

    But, Jews were used as scapegoats by the Nazis. It is really apples and oranges. Instead of a minority group (US blacks) committing the majority of heinous crimes and bleeding the state through welfare benefits and social dysfunction, this other minority group (German Jews) excelled to the point of being inclusive beyond their numbers in medicine, science, and the arts. This made for a convenient and easy target. Besides, Jews, I believe, were less than 1% of the German population in the thirties, not the 13% of the population that US blacks amount to.

    In any event, this will likely change as time passes. The Jewish inter-marriage rate in the US is above 50% and, in my opinion, Jews will be essentially swallowed into white America and a new type of Judaism, or what’s left of it, will emerge.

    This is certainly not the forum to discuss American Judaism and I hesitate to even go this far but it seemed relevant. In any event, the point is that Jews here have the same concerns and problems with blacks as white Protestants and white Catholics, etc…,and Jews will only take so much. That’s why you are starting to see an anti-liberal push-back in the Jewish community.

    Blacks have spit in the face of Jews who tried to (foolishly) help them in the sixties and have been spitting in the face of other whites who tried to help them since the seventies.

    Blacks are their own worst enemies and will face the consequences in the years ahead as long as all whites take a stand.

  31. Jack in chicago says:

    30 — Anonymous wrote at 12:31 PM on August 18:

    This is certainly not the forum to discuss American Judaism and I hesitate to even go this far but it seemed relevant. In any event, the point is that Jews here have the same concerns and problems with blacks as white Protestants and white Catholics, etc…,and Jews will only take so much. That’s why you are starting to see an anti-liberal push-back in the Jewish community.

    Jack replies:

    Agreed. And it is Amren’s policy not to allow any anti Jewish discussions or scapegoating of Jews. I support this policy.

    I do note that American Jewish politics can change in important ways as they did after the Crown Heights pogrom. At least in local New York City politics, NY Jewish voters moved away from pro Black liberalism and supported Guliani over Dinkins and backed the very strong New York Police Department crack down on Black crime, social destruction. Muslim riots , threats against Jews in Europe has caused at least some changes in European Jewish support for mass Muslim immigration in to Europe and the UK.

  32. CID CAMPEADOR says:

    Let’s not forget Vincent Graziosi who was shot to death in his car while waiting at a traffic light during the Crown Heights Pogrom. They Mau Mau thought that he was a Jew because he had a full beard.

    Lemrick Nelson got the obligatory Black jury nullification for the murder of Yankel Rosenbaum who while being attacked screamed the word “cowards” at them because so many of them ganged up on him. After his acquittal, Nelson took the jurors out to lunch.

    God Bless Michelle Malkin for having the courage to speak out about the racial component in all the Black Mob attacks in our cities from coast to coast. She stated that the MSM are avoiding the truth that the attackers are all Black and the victims all White with a few Asians.

    The liberal media will be all over her for this but they might avoid calling her a racist due to her not being White but you can count on the fact that one of those people will happen some vile thing to say about her. I loved it when she called tingly leg Chris Matthews a Neanderthal to his face.

    May God bless and protect her and her family.


  33. Anodyne says:

    In the aftermath of the rioting, caused by Sharpton’s anti-Semitic agitating, Sharpton tracked down the driver of the car that killed Cato:

    The driver, Yosef Lifish was cleared of charges and left for Israel. Sharpton flew to Tel Aviv later in 1991 in an attempt to slap Lifish with a civil suit. When a passer-by at Israel’s Ben Gurion Airport recognized Sharpton, she shouted, ‘Go to hell!’ ‘I am in hell already,’ Sharpton replied. ‘I am in Israel.’

    As if the very presence of Al Sharpton himself isn’t insulting enough, he’s been invited to speak about the riots HE CAUSED through his anti-Semitic rhetoric:

    An East End synagogue has invited the Rev. Al Sharpton to a symposium marking the 20th anniversary of the bloody confrontations.

    ‘It’s just an absolute disgrace,’ said Norman Rosenbaum, whose brother Yankel was killed at the height of the mayhem. ‘His vile rhetoric incited the rioting.’

    It’s unbelievable how he’s tolerated.

  34. Anonymous says:

    24 — Rick wrote at 3:25 AM on August 18:

    “Yet the Jewish voting block for the Obama spoil system is only slightly behind blacks and muslims…

    Why is this?”

    Because white nationalists or even realists still talk much of the Jewish bogyman, orchestrating the world though some magic powers. They still fear that if it were just them without the buffer of other minorities, they would find themselves subject to real pogroms, once again. Too bad we can’t convince them differently. But maybe most don’t want to try.

  35. Josh Harlan says:

    Re: #30 and #31 comment, regarding fact that we should not comment on Jews on this site (regardless of the fact they directly affect our racial problems).

    How about this guys – “There is not a truth existing which I fear… .”

    Even on this site we have to deal with political correctness.

    I suggest everyone read “The Culture of Critique” chapter on immigration; and ignore the fifth columnists.

  36. François says:

    @ Jack (1):

    “I hope some of Amren’s solid Jewish readers can give us some news, some hope of a change coming on immigration.”

    Jews tend to be in favor of immigration, as a group.

  37. Anonymous says:

    Comment 34: It’s not obvious that this has even been tried. Typically what happens when a white person becomes racially aware is that he realizes that there is currently an attempt to wipe out him and his family (it’s not personal, it’s just racial). However, he takes it personally. The usual suspects are thus instantly the enemy.

    The last thing on his mind is reasoning or making deals with the enemy. He’s seen how that goes – another amnesty and “This time I really promise, cross my heart and hope to die that this time I really will enforce the borders.” Or if it’s discussion, all he gets is a list of logical fallacies used against him.

    So the lack of trust is completely understandable. The Anglosphere (and Russia) fought a world war on their behalf, and the thanks that they get is race replacement.

    I still think and fervently hope that the situation is salvageable. However, it may take some serious back-pedalling by Hollywood and the media in order to accomplish that. It won’t be easy. However, I think if someone has made a mistake, the best thing that they can do to avoid retaliation is to apologize and show sincerity by making tangible amends.

  38. Anonymous says:

    Sharpton Opts Out of Panel on Crown Heights Riots

    Thursday, August 18, 2011 – 01:26 PM


    By WNYC Newsroom

    Reverend Al Sharpton has decided not to speak on a panel to mark the 20th anniversary of the violent Crown Heights riots after critics — including the family of a Jewish man who died during the clash — fumed over his participation in the event this weekend.

    Sharpton was scheduled to join City Councilwoman Letitia James, Rabbi Robert Kaplan and Rabbi Marc Schneier on a panel titled “The State of Black-Jewish Relations: Twenty Years After Crown Heights” at The Hampton Synagogue on Sunday.

    In a letter to panel organizer Rabbi Schneier on Thursday, Sharpton said local detractors “want to engage in the business of division and distortion” rather than have a dialogue, and out of respect to Norman Rosenbaum and due to this distortion, he decided to opt out of the discussion.

    The riots between blacks and Jews were sparked when a 7-year-old boy was killed by a car driven in a motorcade for a Hasidic leader in August 1991. Yankel Rosenbuam was a 29-year old Australian student who was stabbed to death during the melee that followed.

    Sharpton’s role in the riots has been controversial.

    In his letter, Sharpton pointed to a state study on the riot that said he had no role in the violence. Norman Rosenbaum and others believe Sharpton did help fan the flames during those three days in 1991.

  39. Anonymous says:

    #26 Ole White Lady

    Read some history about the continual riots in Rome during the Republican, Imperial and medieval periods.

    I don’t mean Wikipedia.

  40. ATBOTL says:

    I lived a heavily Jewish area of NYC during the 80’s. The thing about Jews is that they are extreme hypocrites on race. They voted for Giuliani to protect themselves. They could have cared less if white people outside of NYC were slaughtered en masse by black rioters.

  41. Josh Harlan says:

    One more comment. Where do you think the anti-Semetic (for real) Al Sharpton now ends up? On MSNBC everyday right after Mr. Self-Rightoues liberal himself, Chris Matthews.