Right-Wing Extremists Hijacking the Vigilante Patrols Protecting Against Looters, Warn Police

David Williams et al., Daily Mail (London), August 11, 2011

Britain’s most senior police officer yesterday warned that Right-wing extremists could ‘hijack’ vigilante patrols protecting against looters.

Acting Metropolitan Police Commissioner Tim Godwin singled out the English Defence League and the British National Party as two organisations who might exploit the situation.

His warning comes amid intelligence that the EDL has successfully infiltrated vigilante groups in Enfield, North London–scene of some of the worst mindless violence and criminality on Sunday night–and Eltham in South East London.

Police warn the potential for this to ‘fuel the flames’ of an already fraught situation by adding a ‘violent racial element’ is ‘enormous and worrying.’

Residents claimed some English Defence League supporters were involved in organising vigilante patrols of young white men under the name Enfield Defence League on Tuesday night.

They split into three 30-strong groups in contact by mobile telephone and BlackBerry to patrol the streets.

Underlining police concerns, the EDL said yesterday: ‘Supporters have taken to the streets to help defend their communities and prepare for the clean-up operations that must follow the last few days of rioting and looting.

‘We already have members organising themselves in London, Manchester, Liverpool, Norwich and Birmingham, and are also looking to organise efforts in Bristol, Leeds, Wolverhampton, Salford, Nottingham, Leicester and Hull.’

Speaking as he toured Enfield yesterday, Mr Godwin said: ‘I am worried that there are groups out there like the EDL and BNP who are trying to hijack this and cause more tensions in the community. They are politically motivated groups who have another agenda.’

He added: ‘I have not got a problem with community groups protecting their property or places of worship, which wasn’t needed in the end.’

But he warned: ‘The police will arrest anyone committing a criminal act, whether they are looting or vigilantes breaking the law.’

The Met’s Deputy Assistant Commissioner Steve Kavanagh echoed those warnings yesterday, saying: ‘What I don’t need is these so-called vigilantes, who appeared to have been drinking too much, taking policing resources away from what they should have been doing–which is preventing the looting.’

He spoke out after hundreds of residents in several London areas joined together to drive off would-be looters.

Some groups had armed themselves with lengths of pipe and baseball bats, while some shopkeepers had knives in their stores, claiming that police were ‘nowhere to be seen’ and had ‘failed’ them during the first three days of violence.

Sikh men armed with hockey sticks and metal bars were on guard yesterday in both West London and West Bromwich and stressed they were there with the ‘full knowledge’ of police.

Yesterday, the EDL said: ‘We are hoping to safeguard local businesses through a strong physical presence, and discourage trouble-makers from gathering in our town and city centres.

‘The EDL, and all decent people, be they black, white, Christian, Sikh, Jewish or Muslim, are sickened by this mindless, selfish and ultimately self-defeating behaviour.’

But Searchlight, the anti-fascist organisation, expressed deep concern last night at the EDL involvement, saying: ‘The news that the EDL is promising to come out on the streets to defend our communities from rioters should be met with the derision and contempt it deserves.

‘The EDL is the last thing our communities need.’

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  • Blaak Obongo

    “Right-wing extremists” = Any White person who fights back.

    “Police warn the potential for this to ‘fuel the flames’ of an already fraught situation by adding a ‘violent racial element’ is ‘enormous and worrying.’”

    Implying that there wasn’t already a “violent racial element?”

    “‘The EDL is the last thing our communities need.’”

    So exactly what do your communities need? More black and Mohammedan violence? Well, I guess that would just be ever so much better than Whites organizing to protect themselves, wouldn’t it?

  • BO_Bill

    The impulse to defend territory is a consequence of human evolution in the European environment among those who Plato termed ‘Lovers of Honor’. This appears to be troubling to our modern ‘Lovers of Money’ ruling class.

  • Madison Grant

    So the elites are worried that the EDL may be “adding a violent racial element” to the situation?

    I guess they didn’t notice anything “violent” or “racial” in the rioters’ behavior.

  • XIXth

    Tim Goodwin and other similar police authorities by their statements no longer have the confidence of the English people. They must immediately resign or risk a major backlash against the police from the one community which still provides the police with a base to maintain the peace. I encourage the English Defense League, BNP, other patriots of the United Kingdom’s political parties, to demand Goodwin and his left-wing, multi-cultural, tyrannical ilk leave office, or risk a total confligration within the realm!

  • dan

    It’s just ridiculous at this point. I understand that the police have their hands ties, but I wish some of them would just admit it, rather than allow lives to be endangered. Don’t even listen to the marxists and their endless stream of meaningless stuff (like that Sky reporter who pestered the white business-owning victim – what a joke) – protect yourselves and your property!

    I do hope someone is keeping track of who all of these traitors are; from media to academia to government – they all need to ultimately be held accountable.

  • Conrad

    If I were one of the leaders of the BNP or the EDL I would offer no help at all, UNTIL, the white people of London stand united with one of these groups. The English people have refused to help pro-white parties working in their behalf so I would use this to make it clear that help comes only to loyal white people.

  • Ann Onymous

    It’s interesting that the media insist that the EDL are ”racist” or ”extremist” when the EDL actually tries to be non-racial and supports diversity. I am not even sure why the EDL call themsleves the “English” Defence League when their members are multi-racial and they don’t stand up specifically for people of English descent.

    There needs to be a party that is pro-white and pro-English.

  • Anonymous

    Worried about adding a racial component? I think it’s too late for that. The racial component is already there, thanks to the feral black “youths”. And there was no warning from the police.

  • Anonymous

    Muslim, Sikh, Turk standing up to looters = Defending their property

    White, standing up to looters = Vigilante.

  • Tom S.

    *-an already fraught situation by adding a ‘violent racial element’ is ‘enormous and worrying.’

    What does he mean – “ADDING” a violent racial element? Since day one theres been a racial element – black on White you ideot!

    This spineless “police commissioner” is acually WORRIED about the people that were going to STOP the looting! Did he also infiltrate the black-muslim-asian groups to see whos stirring them up? Of course not, that would be racisss!

  • White Devil

    I can’t imagine how this country survived the vikings, germans, or the french. I know cubscouts tougher than the British police.

  • Jeddermann.

    What exactly do these damned police commanders expect? These rioting street thugs are certainly NOT being stopped by the cops. Persons have a right to protect themselves and their property. Who cares about the politics? And maybe the EDL, BNP and others SHOULD organize the groups? Who else will? It doesn’t matter whether the cat is white or black, ONLY that it catches mice. Or stops the rioters.

  • Jeddermann.

    “Right-wing extremists”

    The “Right-wing extremists”, so called, wouldn’t be there and wouldn’t be shown any support if THERE WAS NOT A PROBLEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. A void is merely being filled. If the cops did there job, the need for the “Right-wing extremists” would not exist to begin with.

  • Kurt

    I saw on one video clip a cop in the face of white people that were out defending their streets.

    Why did these cops not show the same ‘courage’ when confronting the roiters?

    From an Australian perspective the whole thing is crazy. If you threw a rock or petrol bomb at an Australian cop you would be answered with a bullet.

  • MAJ

    But he warned: ‘The police will arrest anyone committing a criminal act, whether they are looting or vigilantes breaking the law.’

    Uh, really? What planet is that guy on? Apparently, I guess he forgot about the 15,000 other black looters committing a criminal act.

    Here’s another line from the article: “Residents claimed some English Defence League supporters were involved in organising vigilante patrols of young white men under the name Enfield Defence League on Tuesday night.”

    The word “claimed” makes it sound sinister and illegal. Change that word to even something neutral like “said” or “reported” and the tone changes.

    And this: “The Met’s Deputy Assistant Commissioner Steve Kavanagh echoed those warnings yesterday, saying: ‘What I don’t need is these so-called vigilantes, who appeared to have been drinking too much, taking policing resources away from what they should have been doing—which is preventing the looting.’

    What in blazes does that mean? How can he say “appeared to have be drinking too much”? How does he know? That’s a total smear line. It’s like saying the men in the community “appeared to be thinking about killing black people.”

    Worse, he blames “these so-called vigilantes” (in reality, people simply protecting themselves and their property) for preventing the police from stopping the looting. So it’s the fault of white people who grouped together for safety and support that the looting spread.

    No wonder the UK is collapsing. With these clowns in charge it’s almost worse than in America. At this rate they’ll soon be ordering all the white people in England to line up and jump off the cliffs of Dover.

  • Ian J. MacDonald

    >But he warned: ‘The police will arrest anyone committing a criminal act, whether they are looting or vigilantes breaking the law.’

    It’s a scene right out of Camp of the Saints by Jean Raspail.

    Enoch Powell and Jean Raspail have been vindicated. Some days, dare I say it, I think that even Thomas Carlyle was right.

  • Anonymous

    The police stood down and did little to help. Now they are concened whites are organizing.

    The BNP and EDL are doing what they should be doing, organizing.

    Anyone who wants to be part of it and get protection in return should join and pay a fee so the organization can be strong. They should organize right down to the neighborhood, and they should offer legal advice and help to members.

    Numbers translate to power, both political and social.

    The current rulers know this and thus try to deter whites from organizing.

  • Anonymous

    The senior police officer is really showing his political bias and lack of concern for the white victims.

    This should really disturb the white citizens who first leaned that the police stood down on orders and let the rioters have their way and now they here the top police officer voicing concern that whites are organizing to protect themselves.

  • Anonymous

    People need protection

    Pakistanis and Indians Jailed for Starting Birmingham Riots

    http://www.birminghammail.net/news/top-stories/2011/08/11/saltley-man-first-to-be-jailed-for-birmingham-riots-full-court-report-from-first-day-of-prosecutions-97319-29216078/

    John Derbyshire estimates that blacks comprise about 2% of the British population but 60 – 70% of the rioters.



    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/274226/epitaph-britain-john-derbyshire#

  • rockman

    Self defense has not always been legal. At one time it was illegal in France to defend yourself against murder and lesser crimes. To resist murder was a capital offense. Self defense is a natural instinct. Since the rioters are in mobs single defenders would simply be wiped out. Organized self defense is the only option short of total surrender

  • shaunantijihad

    Allow me to translate this into American English. What he means is that when Indian Muslims and Sikhs protect their property with swords, they are integrated, upstanding members of the community who “love this country more than we do”.

    When whites use a few phones so as not to be isolated to defend their homes they are “vigilantes with an agenda”, and if they are caught “breaking the law” – such as carrying even a pocket knife – they will face several years in prison with feral gang bangers and Islamists. Indeed, he failed to mention that he sent the police to baton charge these whites just stood defending their homes, but ignored the looters and rioters.

    Not one single commentator has mentioned that Enoch Powell predicted all this and highlighted it’s cause – race.

  • Herman

    I have a proposal for the British Home Secretary which would reduce the cost of police organisation and increase police efficiency at the same time: fire Tim Godwin, fire Steve Cavanagh, fire all higher police officers who got promoted because of their show of political correctness. You need not replace them; they are not doing anything useful, but are just hampering the policemen who are doing their duty in the streets.

    Herman

  • Gringo_Malo

    Sikh men armed with hockey sticks and metal bars were on guard yesterday in both West London and West Bromwich and stressed they were there with the ‘full knowledge’ of police.

    I had inferred from British news reports that anyone in Britain who attempts to defend his person or property is called a vigilante, but I now see that only white Britons can be vigilantes.

  • jdavis

    What do you mean the police have their hands tied? by what or whom?

    In our riots here the police stand and watch until the looters subside of their own accord. Remember the King riots, who was killed, maimed, and injured? not the punks. And the cops watched.

    And the police condemn the edl, what a ploy. Anyone white man defending his life, his families life, or his property against any person of color is deemed a racist. Who cares, I will gladly take the slander if I survive and my loved ones remain unharmed.

    Who did the NG disarm when they got to NO, during Katrina? the armed home owners staying behind to protect themselves. Get the picture? Your government hates you and wants you on your knees, wake up now and revolt.

  • Question Diversity

    The Met’s Deputy Assistant Commissioner Steve Kavanagh echoed those warnings yesterday, saying: ‘What I don’t need is these so-called vigilantes, who appeared to have been drinking too much, taking policing resources away from what they should have been doing—which is preventing the looting.’

    If you’re worried about the EDL “taking policing resources away” from the real looters, then I have a suggestion — Don’t devote any police resources to stalking the EDL. And quit behaving as if it’s a crime for three or more non-leftist white people to consume oxygen within the same square yard. (Though this is England, it might be a crime.)

  • dan

    J Davis – My intent is not to defend the police, but to recognize that their “hands are tied” by council, gov’t. Loss of job is likely after the Tomlinson incedent, etc. It’s no excuse, and shows just how far we have sunk in the west. You can’t count on them. Its going to have to be Brits defending Brits until everyone gets the message.

  • Anglo-Canadian

    This is a good way for nationalists to improve public relations.

  • Dave

    Please have a look at this and print the link.This offensive article has caused a terrible backlash from the patriots and has much relevance to your reprint article above.

    http://goo.gl/xRv4h – Telegraph

    Immigrants love this country more than we do. The Poles, Turks and Somalis have

    shown up the natives during … By Cristina Odone. 8:36PM BST 10 Aug 2011 …

  • Christopher Nelson

    As in the words of the great philosopher of our time Kayne West, “London Police don’t care about white people.”

    “I hate the way they portray us in the media.”

    “If you see a white person it says that they are right wing vigilantes.”

    Yes, Kanye was on to something.

  • Ghetto Mountain

    I don’t see any need for American bashing “We are almost as bad as America” We both have our problems. England isn’t the most enlightened perfect place in the world either. At any rate I hope both of our countries can overcome all of these problems and economic hardships and become the great countries that we used to be. I feel for you guys over there being demonized by your government just for organizing for protection. I would do the same thing and regardless of what your media and government says you guys are 100% right to defend your property and families. Just please don’t blindly hate us because we happen to be from America. The media here and there lies and tries to brainwash us. Why would you believe the things that they tell you? We aren’t all that different, we used to be an English colony after all. Good luck with everything going on over there. – your brother from across the pond

  • Anonymous

    11 — White Devil wrote at 10:09 PM on August 11:

    “I can’t imagine how this country survived the vikings, germans, or the french.”

    This has to be one of the dumbest, irrelevant comments on this subject that I have seen!

    Do I have to point out that the present day ethnic English are the descendants of Germans, Vikings, and French peoples?

  • Anonymous

    20 — rockman wrote at 2:13 AM on August 12:

    “Self defense has not always been legal. At one time it was illegal in France to defend yourself against murder and lesser crimes. To resist murder was a capital offense. Self defense is a natural instinct. Since the rioters are in mobs single defenders would simply be wiped out. Organized self defense is the only option short of total surrender”

    Please tell me when that was? France is the European country where more duels of honor and defensive castles and chateaus have existed the longest. Unless you are referring to the universal feudal laws that made it illegal for serfs to own weapons and rely instead on a war lord, you are simply making up history.

  • Whiteplight

    “But Searchlight, the anti-fascist organisation, expressed deep concern last night at the EDL involvement, saying: ‘The news that the EDL is promising to come out on the streets to defend our communities from rioters should be met with the derision and contempt it deserves.”

    Be very clear that in Europe, any anti-fascist group means – Marxist communist organization. It would be better if we did not have to choose between Nazis and communists, but it is likely that this is the choice in the long run. On the whole, I would choose Nazis, if they didn’t hatch plans to mass murder, but perhaps mass deport non-Europeans. I am also against the sort of domestic terrorism that German Nazism represented. But the meaning of national socialism in the basic sense is a relevant term when it comes to planning a viable future for whites.

  • sheila

    In the American Constitution it is noted that when government cannot or will not protect its citizens, individuals are encouraged to form vigilante groups for that very purpose.

    Some people thing it will be a “fun thing” when situations develop in America whereby the government/police will not be able to snuff out riots in large cities with large black populations…isn’t that interesting…I think so.

    Vigilante comes from the word vigil…some have been tricked into thinking it is somehow a *negative* thing, when in point of fact it is an *honorable* thing in certain cases.

  • Anonymous

    Remember the root of vigilante is vigilance. When an insurrection is occurring and organised defence is absent then natural law dictates that one protect themselves and friends and family.

  • Anonymous

    Whiteplight #33: Admiral Wilhelm Canaris, the Chief of the German Abwehr, or Intelligence Service, offered Hitler a plan to deport all “non-Aryans” to the German Colony of Tanzania, in Africa.

    Canaris argued that the German Reich should set up a Homeland for the Jews and others, and while residing in a German Colony, they could produce goods and services that the Reich would need.