Interracial Marriage Should Be Illegal, Say 46% of Mississippi Republicans in New Poll

Larry McShane, Daily News (New York), April 8, 2011

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A survey conducted last month shows 46% of GOP voters in the state believe interracial marriage should be illegal–a plurality of the people questioned.

Forty percent felt mixed-race weddings should remain legal, while 14% said they were not sure in the survey conducted by Public Policy Polling of Raleigh, N.C.

The poll, conducted between March 24 and 27, showed 76% of the respondents considered themselves somewhat or very conservative.

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  • alex

    “Interracial Marriage Should Be Illegal, Say 46% of Mississippi Republicans in New Poll”

    Since it is the offspring who are hurt by these unions…confused as to their identity….mixed marriages should be disallowed. Selfish, ignorant blacks aren’t aware enough to understand the conflict mixed parentage is to a kid…and those that do don’t care…. and foolish whites are just to imbecilic to understand the impact of their deeds.

  • Eric D

    I believe in freedom, and as such, I don’t think making interracial marriage illegal is a good idea. I went to a friends wedding three years ago and I was surprised to notice that three (out of five) of my friends who also attended had dates/girlfriends who were Oriental. As most people, of whatever ethnicity or race, feel most comfortable with those similar to themselves, I don’t think that interracial marriage will ever be a threat to the integrity of any race.

  • Mike H.

    And yet the Pew Research center would have us believe that 90%+ people are fine with interracial marriage in the US.

    With whites being the most accepting, despite the fact that our interracial marriage rate is the lowest of all.

    Someone’s lying here, and I doubt it’s the Republicans.

  • rjf101

    Having never been to Mississippi (or Alabama, South Carolina, etc.), I have always wondered if the old Southern ways lived on down there or not. According to this poll, it looks like Dixie is alive and well. Or at least half of it is. 46% is much higher than I expected, and remember that is just the people who think miscegenation should be illegalized, not counting those who oppose it morally but don’t believe the government should have a say in peoples’ marriages. I assume there are many more Mississippians who oppose miscegenation in their own families but checked either “not sure” or “no” when asked whether it should be illegalized or not.

    P.S. – on the original article, they have a readers’ poll asking your opinion of the revelation that Mississippians are anti-miscegenation. Interestingly enough, the three choices are basically “I’m ashamed to share a country with these people,” “I disagree with them, but everyone is entitled to their opinion,” and “I don’t really follow politics.” REALLY!?! They just reported that half of the GOP voters of a state of over four million residents are anti-miscegenation, and they don’t have a choice that states, “I AGREE with them.”?!?!? I love New York, but some New Yorkers are so damn arrogant. I think maybe the editors think that absolutely no-one in NYC could possibly agree with these “ignorant rednecks,” so why even make that an option in their poll.

  • SoCal LoCal

    This is being pilloried in the press, but I was happy to read it. I am glad so many still understand the stakes. Every mixed marriage is a loss for us, we just don’t have the numbers to long endure this trend.

    I love white families, and wonder what is wrong with whites who show no interest in their own future. They remind me of something a middle-school teacher once said to a class I was in.

    We were so rowdy she threatened collective punishment. This failed to quell us. She then said,”I thought self-preservation was a general trait.” We all received the promised sanction.

  • P Norman

    Being a Libertarian I have to disagree about allowing the State or Fed Gov to decide this issue and create a LAW forbidding it. However, I agree that interracial marriage is foolhardy and should be both condemned and education made available to warn against such an act.

  • cpascal

    Interracial marriage should be illegal, as it’s not in the best interests of any children the marriage might produce. There are laws against people having children with close relatives because of the genetic dangers of inbreeding. If the law can protect children against the genetic dangers of inbreeding, it should also protect children against the genetic problems of miscegenation. The MSM often reports that the Loving vs. Virginia case made laws against interracial marriage unconstitutional and unenforcable. What this case actually decided was that laws which only apply to one race are unconstitutional, as Virginia’s law only prohibited whites from intermarrying. The best solution would be to pass laws which prohibit all races from engaging in miscegenation.

  • olewhitelady

    Regardless of what one thinks of interracial marriage, laws against it would now be almost useless. A large percentage of black men apparently don’t marry anybody.

    When such laws did exist, they were on the books only in certain states. Some outlawed white/black unions, some white/Native American, some white/Oriental, or any combination. People could just go to another state and wed. The real pressure came from the danger that people could be ostracized or brutalized if they didn’t follow local mores.

  • Anonymous

    “Since it is the offspring who are hurt by these unions…confused as to their identity…”

    No, poster #1. Sounds like you feel sorry for them. I sure don’t! Those same “kids” will grow up looking for a White partner to mate with and create even more “mulattos”, just as a pure black does. Heaven help us because we sure don’t help ourselves.

    It is ONLY the WHITE race that is hurt, genocided and demolished by these unions. ALL those kids from those unions know EXACTLY what their identity is! They can never be White. Look at Obama for one example. Which side does he align himself with? EVERY mulatto I know aligns themselves with their black parents side.

  • Noticing Things

    “A large percentage of black men apparently don’t marry anybody.”

    Whites also. Plus, a large percentage of people are of mixed race, so deciding who couldn’t marry whom would be next to impossible.

  • Sardonicus

    Having never been to Mississippi (or Alabama, South Carolina, etc.), I have always wondered if the old Southern ways lived on down there or not.

    Things have changed in the South, and not for the better in my opinion, but white people are still more racially conscious down here. We have lived with the blacks for centuries and know their good and bad aspects very well. With some of us, we never became Neo-Confederates because we never stopped being Confederates.

  • Matt

    As a White Nationalist, my priority is establishing a White homeland where interracial marriage is a non issue. It’s the only way to end the problem once and for all.

  • Cid Campeador

    I for one am not in favor of government controlling people’s private lives. Too much of that has already been put in place. However I feel that it’s the duty of parents to instill racial pride in their children and I don’t mean that they should instill hatred for others but rather to let them know that we as Euro-Americans have a natural instinct to want to perpetuate ourselves just as do all organisms.

  • Mr.White

    Since when does the GOP leadership ever listen to the voices of those they claim to represent? More than 80% (a large portion of those are likely GOP) of Americans want our immigration laws enforced, yet such want does not inspire our government (including the GOP) to enforce current immigration law against invading mestizos ; who are in the midst of their reconquista to replace white Americans as the new majority.

    How in the world would we ever expect this same government to pass (federal) laws to further protect our glorious race? Of course mixed marriages are detrimental to our white race, but wasn’t that the plan all along, being perpetrated under the guise of “multiculturalism and diversity?” In order for multiculturalism and diversity to work, a white must be excluded from consideration. Wouldn’t the whole thing be easier if there were simply no longer any whites around to complicate matters?

    Is there any reason to believe our government has any interest in protecting our race from anything given the past 40 years of actions (inactions) on their part?

    The real question to ask is how many of our elected representatives are currently in mixed race relationships/marriages?

  • Jefferson

    How do you define what constitutes interracial marriages anyways ? Not every group is clearly Nonwhite. There are grey areas like Armenians, Italians, Jews, Greeks, Turks, Albanians, etc.

    Also is a racially pure White person marries somebody who is 1/8 Native American but mostly White just as equally interracial as a White person who marries a Black person ?

    Banning “interracial marriages” opens up a whole can of worms.

    Besides the reason White people are becoming a minority in the U.S is not because White people are dating and marrying outside their race in record numbers because we are definitely not. The reason White people are becoming a minority in the U.S is because of illegal immigrants from south of the border who are living in the U.S.

  • Jack

    Mike H. wrote at 10:19 PM on April 8:

    And yet the Pew Research center would have us believe that 90%+ people are fine with interracial marriage in the US.

    With whites being the most accepting, despite the fact that our interracial marriage rate is the lowest of all

    Actually, it is Blacks who have the lowest interracial marriage rate of all.

  • Lauren

    GREAT! The more people think Mississippians are cross-burning, mob-lynching demons, the fewer people will move here!

    The fact that 99.9% of Mississippi’s Black Republicans (I’m guessing) think Interracial Marriage should be illegal is something that won’t be acknowledged in New York.

    And yes: I imagine that Black Democrats would respond not too differently to such a poll. Mississippi’s Blacks generally are enthusiastically behind any sort of hateful, religion-based, or repressive Legislation. Individual liberty seems to be a concept with which Blacks are uneasy. Controls being placed upon individuals by outside forces are things which they tend to view positively. Black voters are why Gay Marriage was voted illegal here, by the widest margin in any state. A third, I’m told, of Mississippi’s Blacks voted to KEEP our obviously Confederate State Flag.

    But you won’t find THAT being reported up in New York, either.

  • Luke

    I have an old white male friend who I’ve known for over three decades, and he’s been through 5 marriages and divorces and – he finally snagged himself an Asian woman. In all fairness, I should point out that all those divorces pretty much cleaned him out financially – but, that is still no excuse – in my mind, for him to glob onto a Asian nurse, who’s now become his financial security blanket.

    Over the last few years, my refusal to roll over and meekly submit to this third world invasion and colonization of White, Western European civilization – and my refusal to temper or sugar coat any of my conversations with him on this topic – has resulted in our friendship being strained to the breaking point.

    Frankly, as Rhett Butler said to Scarlet O’Hara – “I don’t give a damn.” He made the decision to betray his own race, not I. He made the decision to miscegenate and put himself into the awkward position of being unable to take his own race’s side in this conflict, without worrying about ‘offending’ his non-white wife. I had nothing to do with that decision, it was his and his alone.

    So, if he is conflicted or uncomfortable over his situation – I do not care. I will NOT wrap my arms around the racial, ethnic and cultural dispossession of my own race of people – just so his ‘feelings’ or his wife’s feelings won’t be stressed out.

    Race cards and racial intimidation tactics do not WORK ON THIS white man. And, as every AR reader knows full well – every last one of these non-white racial groups have, somewhere in this world, a nation or combination of nations, where their race is the overwhelming majority, where their race of people are in full control of their nations and where their race is NOT being systematically dispossessed by their racial competitors and threatened with being subjugated to those racial competitors and eventually genocided into extinction. It is NOT ‘hate’ or ‘racist’ for White European people to demand the same ability to hang on to their dominance in their native homelands.

    Are you listening, Ruben Navarrette?

  • Michigan Patriot

    U. N. members have collectively and individually have condemned ” genocide “; especially since the Nuremberg trials, post W.W. II; why is it , other than hypocritical ,double standard but ” celebrate White/Euro-Christian stock’s self-destruction ” by uniquely welcoming ” diversity ” of unlike races/ cultures to overwhelm themselves in their own respective countries worldwide ?

  • Jay

    I don’t believe it is ethical to ban marriage between any man or woman. How can you deny love? Left to its natural course, most people, whites included, will marry their own anyway, and if you’re scared of black/white pairings, even after so much propaganda, they’re still very rare.

    Also, how would you define ‘interracial?’ Can an American of Polish ancestry marry someone who’s mostly Scottish? They sure look a lot different. Can a Blond-haired Swedish-type woman marry an Italian-American? Many Italians (southern) look no different than mestizo latinos. How about a Spaniard marrying a Latvian? Both are technically European, but Spaniards look rather Arabish due to the Arabs being there for SEVEN centuries. What of Russians and Ukrainians? A lot of them look rather asiatic, even if they have blond hair. Are they another race?

    The point I want to make is, where do you draw the line? You can’t say ‘European background’ and define that as a race because Europeans themselves are so varied from pasty white with icy blond hair (nordic) to mongol-like with jet black hair (ukraine).

    Technically, Caucasians exist in many parts of north Africa, the Levant, the Caucasus and on over into Afghanistan and northern India. (There’s tons of Afghans, Pakistanis and Indians who are not dark skinned and who have blond/red/brown hair and very ‘white’ features. Others are mestizos with the darker people of the south.)

    I believe if a non-white person has a cultural outlook that subscribes to traditional white values and has a loyalty to white-created cultures and nations, then a little mixing can bring variety. Plus, many non-Caucasian or partially Caucasian races also have a similar skin tone, similar cultural values and high IQs (like northeast Asians, central Asians, some middle easterners, etc) And I’m talking like a few percentage points of natural mixing here folks, so don’t jump all over me.

    What I would say is that marriages between Americans and foreigners need extra scrutiny because many are for a green card only. If a person marries an American citizen and divorces them EVER, then they lose their green card and must be deported.

  • WR the elder

    I don’t think we should make mixed race marriage illegal, but I do think we should educate our children regarding the disadvantages of such a marriage, particularly marriages of whites to blacks.

  • joe

    I disagree with many of the comments on this article, mainly because I’m more interested in people’s lifestyle, values and attitudes. If you want to marry someone of a different race you should be able to – none of my business. Yes, perhaps it does upset the apple cart, but no need in fighting this issue- people will get together regardless of race. Always been that way. The only thing different is that it’s just out in the open now.

    I prefer white lifestyles and values, but if any non-whites agrees and want to be part of it, no problem.

    Again, we can’t do anything about this – people are attracted to other people regardless of race-always been that way. I’d rather we spend our time and energy on keeping western culture alive and well, regardless how dark we become in a couple hundred years.

  • GetBackJack

    There are many blacks that oppose it as well. How come the media never takes a poll of their beliefs?

  • yankeeCT

    In today’s day and age, when (regrettably) about a quarter of whites and 70 percent of blacks have kids out of wedlock, banning interracial marriage would have not much of an effect on the birth of mulattoes. Banning inter-racial sex obviously would be a more effective tactic. And while I am strongly opposed to blacks and white having relations with each other, as someone else said on here I don’t think the government should be prying into people personal lives. I read somewhere that MS has the lowest percentage of multi racial people, so widespread societal disapproval must be quite adequate. I just wish that were the case up here in Yankeeland CT where brown kids with white parents is becoming depressingly common.

  • ward9son

    The point that has been missed so far in all of the above comments is “Why is this question even being asked in a poll?”

    The Answer to this question is very simple – the media outfit commissioning this poll is searching for ammunition to discredit Whites and Republicans as a group in order to eventually use this polling data to shame other, “softer” Whites into eventually voting for Barack Obama in 2012. The very fact that Republicans in Mississippi would be asked such a question, and it’s respondents’ tally reported, is just the opening salvo from the MSM media mining for “data” to use in assisting Obama’s reelection, using this on one front of their effort in what I will describe as a “Shame” the Whites” strategy ….

    Can you imagine even one day of the GOP Convention being covered by the MSM when this data” is not cited …..

    Let’s get creative …. How about a conservative group or media polling single Black Women on their feelings about Interracial Marriage? Let’s release that data. I bet the percentages willing to respond against it are greater than that of Mississippi Republicans ….

    It is time for Conservatives to play this game and engage in full – and to quit bringing badmitton raqcuets to the life & death sword fights that our elections have become !!!!

  • Economist

    “The point I want to make is, where do you draw the line? You can’t say ‘European background’ and define that as a race because Europeans themselves are so varied from pasty white with icy blond hair (nordic) to mongol-like with jet black hair (ukraine).”

    As I understand it, physical anthropologists define Caucasians by skeletal structure in comparison to other races like Black Africans or East Asians. Even though there is overlap (as there is overlap between different hominid species) the comparison as mostly accurate in its predictive value. DNA demarcations which exist between different human races are even more accurate.

    Many southern Italians and non-European Caucasians look signicantly different from the core Western and Northern European Whites but at least some interethnic unions between the two groups will produce children that look entirely White European due to the genetic similarity between the two regional groups. This almost never happens in the case of interracial unions. While not perfect, it is also not that difficult to define Caucasians against other racial groups for these reasons.

  • Anonymous

    I’m as freedom loving as the next person but you have to draw the line somewhere when the individual freedoms of certain people jeopardize society as a whole. Same with single welfare mothers giving birth for cash. Society has every right to impose their will on her reproductive rights if they’re going to end up footing the bill and produce another future criminal.

  • John Engelman

    Strom Thurmond publicly condemned miscegenation, but he had an illegitimate mulatto daughter.

    I am reminded of a black man who said, “Southern whites say they do not want us to marry their daughters. We have married their illegitimate daughters for centuries.”

    The reason most American blacks have some white ancestry is because before the Civil War many white slave owners forced black slave women to have sex with them. After the Civil War, many white employers did the same with black female employees.

    John Howard Griffin wrote about this in Black Like Me.

  • John Engelman

    Homo sapiens is a species in a process of arrested differentiation. I doubt there will be different races several thousand years from now. Nevertheless, because superior intelligence is becoming increasingly necessary to earn a decent income, the existing races will not make proportional contributions to the future hybrid.

  • sam

    Jefferson–I am half-Greek. Greeks are not “grey areas”. We are the race that started the West and defined the ideals that allow YOU to post here. You owe them respect.

  • Anonymous

    27 — John Engelman wrote at 10:28 AM on April 10:

    Strom Thurmond publicly condemned miscegenation, but he had an illegitimate mulatto daughter.

    I am reminded of a black man who said, “Southern whites say they do not want us to marry their daughters. We have married their illegitimate daughters for centuries.”

    The reason most American blacks have some white ancestry is because before the Civil War many white slave owners forced black slave women to have sex with them. After the Civil War, many white employers did the same with black female employees.

    John Howard Griffin wrote about this in Black Like Me.

    —————————————————————–

    WHO told YOU that MOST White slave owners forced black slave women to have sex with them? WHO told YOU that most White EMPLOYERS did the same with black female employees? John Howard Griffin?

    How many WHITE men today have sex with black women, John? Very FEW! So I believe that MOST White men back in the day, didn’t either!

  • Anonymous

    Crossbreeding between two different races results in hybrid vigor, or heterosis, meaning that the product is genetically superior to either of the parents. If one truly wanted to increase the overall quality of the human race, one would advocate race mixing. Mixed race children are frequently intellectually and physically superior to children who are of a single race.

  • Anonymous

    #27 And today’s rate of white on black rape is so low as to be undetectable. Does that make sense to you? Has there ever been any proof that white men took sexual liberties with slaves, other than some black race hustler claiming it was so?

    Which is more believable based on the observation of black behavior is every single instance you observe it….that wealthy, land owning whites, who could have basically any decent, beautiful white woman they wanted, regularly forced themselves on (let’s face it), UGLY black women…..or that the western world has always had a problem with black on white rape, since we first came into contact with them.

    All those blacks you see with significant white blood? Those are a product of black on white rape far more then miscegenation.

    This is the reason we had the Klan, Jim Crow, resistance to integration.

  • Edward

    This poll is largely useless. From what I heard, they polled about 200 people (hardly a majority of people) about this issue.

    Secondly, just a couple weeks ago I saw an article in the New York Times about an interracial couple (White male/Black female.) In fact, they lived in Mississippi. The couple was a professional, upscale couple. In all honesty, I was very surprised to see this.

    My point is that I am not as convinced that as many Whites are as opposed to miscegenation as they claim to be or should be.

  • Frank G.

    Miscegenation is genocide for White people. This is so, because we are a recent divergence from darker mankind, and our “White” genes are not as fixed. It takes two White parents to produce a truly White child.

    Shun miscegnationist Whites for the evil people they are. Don’t be rude or mean, just don’t give them the time of day and avoid them whenever possible. They are an abomination.

  • Michael

    yankeeCT wrote at 10:48 PM on April 9:

    In today’s day and age, when (regrettably) about a quarter of whites and 70 percent of blacks have kids out of wedlock, banning interracial marriage would have not much of an effect on the birth of mulattoes. Banning inter-racial sex obviously would be a more effective tactic. And while I am strongly opposed to blacks and white having relations with each other, as someone else said on here I don’t think the government should be prying into people personal lives. I read somewhere that MS has the lowest percentage of multi racial people, so widespread societal disapproval must be quite adequate. I just wish that were the case up here in Yankeeland CT where brown kids with white parents is becoming depressingly common.

    Yankett CT:

    I hear you. Interestingly, I was watching a television program where they interviewed an interracial couple (White man/Black woman) who lived in a town named Westport, Connecticut. They were a very, very successful professional couple. Their home was absolutely BEAUTIFUL!

    Aftrerward, I did some research about the town. According to USA TODAY and other sources, Westport, Connecticut is one of the wealthiest towns in the nation. It seems that miscegeantion is happening among the more affluent Whites and Blacks.

  • Albert

    There is a book published by Chad Heap entitled “Slumming” It discusses the history of White wealthy and upscale people engaging in sexual relationships with Black people from the turn of the 20th century right up until the late 1940s.

    Again, these were not poor, lower income Whites, we are talking about well schooled, well heeled White people. The book is very well documentd as well

    In the past, I would have dismised any person who told me that this sort of interracial sexual activity took place. Now I am aware of the truth.

    The book was a real eye opener for me.

  • Peter

    I remember several years ago we had a sex scandal here in Indiana involving White men and Black women. The men ranged from attorneys, businessmen, politicans etc… largely professional men, although there were some policemen involved as well.

    The media covered the story in depth, including describing explicit sex acts. The manner in which these men sexually expolited these women (most of the women were between 18-30) was disgraceful. A number of these men were outright perverts.

    It was sick to say the least.

  • Anonymous

    People let me clear up a few things. The question posed was:

    “Do you think there should be laws against marriages between African-Americans and whites?”

    I’m pretty sure a much smaller % object to other kinds of interracial marriage.

    Also these two tabs are the kicker:

    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/files/2011/04/intraclib.png

    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/files/2011/04/raceage.png

    That is right more than half of those over 65 and those under 29 agree! I repeat 54% of people aged from 18 to 29 who answered the poll where opposed to it.

    Internet? Experience form living with Blacks? Changing voting focuses for local republicans? Rebelling against parents?

    While I wouldn’t support a ban, but it seems likley that the climate among those particular young isn’t hostile to proWhite poistions, that’s a good thing.

  • AvgDude

    Doesn’t anyone grasp the concept of liberty anymore? It’s no ones business whom anyone marries… Unless… too many of those marriages lead to single mothers living off the dole on everyone else’s dime. Personally, I wouldn’t recommend to white women to marry a black man because when push comes to shove, if it comes down to race, he will choose black even over his wife. And the chances he will cheat on you are statistically very high.

  • ghw

    P Norman wrote:

    “Being a Libertarian I have to disagree about allowing the State or Fed Gov to decide this issue and create a LAW forbidding it.”

    —————-

    I too am a strong defender of personal liberty. But some things exceed the limits of what is purely personal.

    After long consideration, I have come to realize that marriage is a vital SOCIAL institution, not just a PERSONAL choice about whom you choose to love or live with. It is not the same as what you will have for supper tonight.

    The institution of marriage, down through ages and around the world, has existed among all peoples and cultures. There is is reason for this. Marriage affects society and social stability, not just the individuals immediately involved.It affects the tribe or nation. It affects us.

    The institution of marriage is not a purely PERSONAL matter because it involves the creation of the next generation of citizenry (or of the tribe) — the people our grandchildren will live with, intermarry with, and who will vote for social policies that may be harmful to us and our interests. It is in the tribe’s/nation’s vital interest to know who will carry on the tribe. Thus, unless you’re living on an islolated island, marriage involves all society, and it concerns ALL OF US.

    It’s analagous to a neighbor who decides to build a garbage disposal plant in his back yard and tells you that it’s none of your business what he does on his property. Sorry, libertarians, that shoddy argument doesn’t wash. It’s NOT just his own business! If it affects you, it most certainly IS your business too.

    Similarly, inter-marriage ultimately affects all of us, and it is all of our business. We have every right to be concerned and to pass rules that regulate (and preserve) what kind of people we want to be.

  • ghw

    Cid Campeador wrote:

    “I for one am not in favor of government controlling people’s private lives.” at 12:55 PM on April 9:

    ——————————

    I fully agree with you. Private matters should be sacrosanct, immune from the intrusion of government.

    But as I stated in my post above, marriage is not PRIVATE. It is a SOCIAL institution, and it concerns all of society.

    If you want to shack up in private, there’s nothing to prevent it; but don’t apply for a marriage license and ask for society’s blessing.

  • Anonymous

    “Strom Thurmond publicly condemned miscegenation, but he had an illegitimate mulatto daughter.”

    John Engleman

    Many people have made mistakes, especially youthful mistakes.

    So? Does that make it right?

  • ghw

    A number of posters above have made the valid point about how hard it would be enforce any such laws. And I agree. Just where do you draw the lines? (Economist gave a good answer, I thought.)

    Let me make it clear that I do not necessarily think this should be handled within the province of the LAW, which would open an impossible can of worms. But you can still give social disapproval to intermarriage. You certainly don’t have to approve it. The culture can sometimes handle such matters better than the law, as something that just is not done.

  • Xenophon

    It should not only be illegal, but punishable by death…for both partners.

  • Anonymous

    Mr. Engleman:

    What is the point of your comment on post 27 of this topic?

  • Anonymous

    Anonymous wrote at 10:56 AM on April 10:

    WHO told YOU that MOST White slave owners forced black slave women to have sex with them? WHO told YOU that most White EMPLOYERS did the same with black female employees? John Howard Griffin?

    How many WHITE men today have sex with black women, John? Very FEW! So I believe that MOST White men back in the day, didn’t either!

    It seems that we have another cognitive dissonace poster who has decided that since “he or she” does not believe that interracial sex took place among White men and Black women that therefore,anyone who states otherwise is wrong.

    You may want to read some history books, visit some archives,read some old diaries etc…that will shed light on this issue. As someone who has done all three I can verify that Mr.Engleman is indeed correct.

    Secondly, WHO TOLD YOU the percentage of White men and Black women having sexual relations with one another? Pretty arrogant if you ask me.

  • Dennis

    Anonymous 10:56am, Anonymous 2:23pm:

    Both of you are letting your emotions get the best of you. While I am certain that the majority of us who are racially conscious Whites do not wish to see miscegenation destroy our culture, the fdact is that we cannot ignore the fact that there have been Whites in the past (and present) who have engaged in this practice.

    While it may be hard to acknowledge, the fact is that there is enough legitimate, documented legal evidence to verify such events. We do ourselves no good by denying that such activity never took place or was virtually non-existant.

    Moreover, given the climate of the times, what mainstream White newspapers, courts or law enforcement in the south would make any perverted effort to “fabricate” stories accusing White men of raping and sexually exploiting Black women in the first half of the 20th century?

    Sometimes the truth is not always what we want to hear, but it is nonetheless, the truth.

  • Anonymous

    According to the 2010 census, the largest group of interracial marriages are White male/ Asian female marriages.

  • Proud White American

    Which is more believable based on the observation of black behavior is every single instance you observe it….that wealthy, land owning whites, who could have basically any decent, beautiful white woman they wanted, regularly forced themselves on (let’s face it), UGLY black women…..or that the western world has always had a problem with black on white rape, since we first came into contact with them

    While I am dead set against miscegenation of any type, I do have to wonder why a number of our posters have to always refer to Black women or any woman of any race as “ugly?” This is not an effective way to persuade people to embrace your argument.

    Secondly, it is mean-spirited, immature and discredits the race realist movement. The fact is this website is designed for intelligent, rational debate, not 6th grade level bratty name calling.

    To you guys who engage in this deplorable sort of behavior – GROW UP!

  • Mike H.

    @39

    Ah, that explains a great deal. The age groups seem to be indicating a trend I’ve noticed myself. The older folks I know tend to be amazingly “racist”, but their children(my parents generation) are some of the most “anti-racist” people I’ve ever met. Whereas THEIR children(my generation, early 20s) are, if not “racist”, then at the least are aware of race far more than their parents.

    It also confirms what pretty much everyone on the planet already knew – no one wants anything to do with blacks no matter what their race is.

  • Aaron

    27 — John Engelman wrote at 10:28 AM on April 10:

    “Strom Thurmond publicly condemned miscegenation, but he had an illegitimate mulatto daughter.

    I am reminded of a black man who said, “Southern whites say they do not want us to marry their daughters. We have married their illegitimate daughters for centuries.”

    The reason most American blacks have some white ancestry is because before the Civil War many white slave owners forced black slave women to have sex with them. After the Civil War, many white employers did the same with black female employees.

    John Howard Griffin wrote about this in Black Like Me.”

    So most American blacks are descended from [white] rapists? Explains a lot.

  • Charles Hastings

    Nice theory, #32, but wrong. Mulattos are not intellectually superior to whites. And who cares about physical superiority? Being able to stuff a basketball is not a real-world survival skill. Blacks might be better at spear-fighting, but whites could just napalm them. Your theory applies well to dogs, however.

  • Anonymous

    @32, Yes your absolutely right. Those weird looking mulatto children with the big poofy hair are absolutely superior in every way to a blond blue eyed White child. Not!

    @36, I would disagree. Miscegenation is mostly a phenomenon of the lower classes.

  • Alexandra

    #32: It doesn’t work that way. If anything, it “averages” things out. It’s more likely that mulatto children are smarter than pure blacks but dumber (in a clinical sense) than pure whites.

    Someone have data on that?

  • nixdad

    I visit this site often and appreciate most of the views expressed. More often than not, I can say that I agree with these opinions to a large degree if not wholly. Although this article is broadly written to encompass myriad and countless combinations of marriages (afro-Asian, white-Latino, Jewish-Arabic), I’m sure that the comments are perceived and directed at white/black relationships. With that said, I have no interest in a relationship with a black person. I’m not attracted to them and they typically have characteristics, morals and behavior that differ from mine. At the same time, I’m not particularly attracted to Asians (many of whom tower over me in terms of intelligence and moral structure), and find Arabic women to be gorgeous although of a race that has been proven to be vile.

    That’s me.

    I’m offended that our government feels that it is their role in my life to dictate that I must wear a seatbelt, helmet or any other action (which doesn’t affect others) that that is clearly a natural freedom. Not that many are not good ideas, it’s my decision to make. I belong to me. Period. I can’t help but find absurdity in a group of people who consider themselves “conservative”, who must appreciate the general concepts and freedoms of our constitution, in favor of government becoming so intrusive as to dictate the color of your partner’s skin. That choice is up to you, not a bureaucracy.

  • Anonymous

    28 — John Engelman wrote at 10:28 AM on April 10:

    Strom Thurmond publicly condemned miscegenation, but he had an illegitimate mulatto daughter.

    I am reminded of a black man who said, “Southern whites say they do not want us to marry their daughters. We have married their illegitimate daughters for centuries.”

    The reason most American blacks have some white ancestry is because before the Civil War many white slave owners forced black slave women to have sex with them. After the Civil War, many white employers did the same with black female employees.

    John Howard Griffin wrote about this in Black Like Me.

    THIS IS TOTAL HOGWASH. THERE IS DNA PROOF OTHER THAN THE MEDIA LIES CONCERNING THURMOND AND THEY WAITED UNTIL AFTER HE DIED TO COMES OUT WITH THIS. WHY DONT THEY GET DNA?

    WHERE IS THE PROOF THAT WHITE SLAVEOWNERS HAD ANY FORM OF SEXUAL CONTACT WITH THE BLACK FEMALES AS THE REIVIONISTS WHO LIE ABOUT EVERYTHING TRY TO ALLEGE? THIS IS SLANDEROUS LIES AND PROVES THEIR HATRED OF OF WHITE SOUTHERNERS BY THE LIBERALS.

    BLACK LIKE ME WAS A BOOK WRITTEN BY A NORTHERN LINCOLNITE LIBERAL WHO TRIED TO MAKE MONEY WITH HIS HATRED OF SOUTHERN WHITES ALSO.

    SOUTHERN WHITES WILL BE THE FIRST TO ACKNOWLEGE THEY WISH AFRICAN SLAVERY HAD NEVER OCCURED AND IT WAS A CATASTROPHIC MISTAKE AND AN ABOMINATION TO THE NWO BUT IT WAS THE NORTHERN WHITES AND THEIR RI PORTS WHO RAN THE OPERATION AND CONNED THEM OFF ON THE SOUTHERN ELITE WHO IGNORANTLY BOUGHT INTO IT.

  • Anonymous

    32 — Anonymous wrote at 1:46 PM on April 10:

    Crossbreeding between two different races results in hybrid vigor, or heterosis, meaning that the product is genetically superior to either of the parents. If one truly wanted to increase the overall quality of the human race, one would advocate race mixing. Mixed race children are frequently intellectually and physically superior to children who are of a single race.

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    Mixed race children are intellectually and physically superior to children of a single race? Exactly where did you get this propaganda? Some kind of “study”?

    Have you seen OBAMA? His law school records? I don’t buy it for a second. I have seen a few mixed race hybrids and “smart” doesn’t come to mind.

  • Anonymous

    37 — Albert wrote at 3:42 PM on April 10:

    There is a book published by Chad Heap entitled “Slumming” It discusses the history of White wealthy and upscale people engaging in sexual relationships with Black people from the turn of the 20th century right up until the late 1940s.

    Again, these were not poor, lower income Whites, we are talking about well schooled, well heeled White people. The book is very well documentd as well

    In the past, I would have dismised any person who told me that this sort of interracial sexual activity took place. Now I am aware of the truth.

    The book was a real eye opener for me.

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    Really? You and John Engleman,poster #31 are two peas in a pod. Maybe you and he can write a “book”?

  • John Engelman

    32 — Anonymous wrote at 1:46 PM on April 10:

    Crossbreeding between two different races results in hybrid vigor, or heterosis, meaning that the product is genetically superior to either of the parents. If one truly wanted to increase the overall quality of the human race, one would advocate race mixing. Mixed race children are frequently intellectually and physically superior to children who are of a single race.

    ——

    One highly speculative but stimulating chapter [of The 10,000 Year Explosion] considers the possibility that Neanderthals might have made crucial genetic contributions to Homo sapiens. There is no doubt that something important happened 30 to 40 thousand years ago. New tools, improved weapons, art, sculpture, and more efficient use of fire made big changes in what was still a Stone Age existence. These changes took place only in Eurasia — nowhere else — and Professors Cochran and Harpending are convinced they would not have come about without some important genetic change.

    As it happens, this Stone Age flowering took place during the 10,000 years or so during which modern man and Neanderthals competed against each other in the same territory. Neanderthals are gone and we are not, so it is safe to assume Homo sapiens were superior — perhaps in intelligence, language, or resistance to disease. However, the authors believe there must have been genetic mixing with Neanderthals, and explain that even if just a few Neanderthal genes were useful to modern man, they would have spread through populations while the useless ones were eliminated. “It is highly likely that out of some 20,000 genes, at least a few of theirs [Neanderthal’s] were worth having,” they write.

    http://www.amren.com/ar/2009/05/index.html

  • rjpp

    32 — Anonymous wrote at 1:46 PM on April 10:

    Crossbreeding between two different races results in hybrid vigor, or heterosis, meaning that the product is genetically superior to either of the parents. If one truly wanted to increase the overall quality of the human race, one would advocate race mixing. Mixed race children are frequently intellectually and physically superior to children who are of a single race.

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    Selective crossbreeding can result in increasing the appearance of a dominant trait.

    The dominant trait need not be a superior trait —> sickle cell anemia and Tays-Sach disease for example.

  • David Ashton

    According to your index people have commented.