Census: Whites Leaving Bay Area

Aaron Glantz, Bay Citizen (San Francisco), March 30, 2011

White people are leaving the Bay Area.

New census numbers released this month show the region is becoming more ethnically diverse not only because its Asian and Hispanic populations are increasing, but also because the Bay Area’s white population is in decline.

The Bay Area’s non-Hispanic white population dropped by more than 185,000 in the past decade, the census figures show.

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Census figures show San Jose lost 20,000 white residents over the past decade, even as it added 63,000 Asians and 44,000 Latinos.

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San Francisco was the only county to see an increase in the number of white residents, with a modest rise of 4,659.

Meanwhile, the white population fell by 69,000 in Santa Clara County, 55,000 in Alameda County and 37,000 in San Mateo County.

Many of the largest losses occurred in Silicon Valley suburbs, which saw significant increases in their Asian population.

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It’s a trend that’s common across the country, said Dowell Myers, a professor who heads the Population Dynamics Research Group at the University of Southern California.

“White residents are much more expectant of the middle-class lifestyle, meaning that you have to be a homeowner, by age 30, of a traditional detached, single-family home,” Myers said.

“But the high price of housing doesn’t seem to discourage Latino and Asian migration that much,” he added. “They are willing to double up and make sacrifices that middle-class whites don’t really expect to make.”

Myers also pointed to a decline in the number of white children, a statewide phenomenon.

The number of white children declined in all but two of California’s 58 counties over the last decade.

There are nearly 150,000 fewer white children in the Bay Area than there were 10 years ago. San Francisco was the only county to see an increase. Comparatively, the number of Hispanic children in the Bay Area increased by 100,000 and Asian children by 50,000. The number of black children declined by 34,000.

“The bulk of white kids statewide were the children of baby boomers, but when these kids have gotten older, they’ve scattered because of the high cost of housing. That’s what’s mainly driving the slow attrition” of whites, he said.

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  • Anonymous

    “But the high price of housing doesn’t seem to discourage Latino and Asian migration that much,” he added. “They are willing to double up and make sacrifices that middle-class whites don’t really expect to make.”

    No, the only sacrifice whites are expected to make are allowing themselves to be displaced by other races whom they never invited.

  • Peejay in Frisco

    San Francisco will eventually become mostly high earning whites, and Chinese who are willing to live 15 or more in a house(just like Chinatown).There will always be a small percentage of ghet-toe blacks who live in government subsidized housing projects, that no other race can stand to live in, and a few hispanic illegal aliens who do just what the Chinese do.But it will be much better than SF was in the 1970s,when blacks were terrorizing us constantly.

  • Seneca The Younger

    Of course white people are leaving the Bay Area, they want to live in America. Take that as a Mexican joke or a Communist one, they both fit the bill.

    The problem is that once housing becomes affordable for white families it becomes affordable for three Mexican families to buy one house. This will decrease property value from all the noise, crime, and litter. This is how white flight started.

    I am all for affordable houses, but not too affordable.

  • Rajesh

    Actually, in the Bay Area town of Cupertino, the high test scores of Asians have raised the property values so high that only the most affluent can afford to buy homes there!

    Can you AR readers actually believe that it’s more expensive to LIVE in 70 percent “MINORITY” Cupertino as opposed the nearby town of Los Gatos which is 85 percent white?

    IN this case, MINORITIES are increasing property values with their high intelligence. For those of you who live in parts of the U.S. that only know Black and White, I encourage you to get to know some Asians and Indians- you will be in for a pleasant surprise!

  • Anonymous

    “White residents are much more expectant of the middle-class lifestyle, meaning that you have to be a homeowner, by age 30, of a traditional detached, single-family home,” Myers said.

    “But the high price of housing doesn’t seem to discourage Latino and Asian migration that much,” he added. “They are willing to double up and make sacrifices that middle-class whites don’t really expect to make.”

    In other words, they turn communities into third world slums. And when has it ever been established that whites are expected to have a detached, single family home by age thirty? Whites leave because they sense, consciously or not, that they are no longer the dominant majority, and they understand perfectly well what life would be like as a minority in a non-white community.

  • Question Diversity

    “But the high price of housing doesn’t seem to discourage Latino and Asian migration that much,” he added. “They are willing to double up and make sacrifices that middle-class whites don’t really expect to make.”

    Translated into English, this means that Hispanics and certain Asians like to cram jam many to a residence, and with many people in the domicile either working a job or drawing a check of some sort, or profiting off some scam or hustle, this means that there are multiple income earners in order to pay the rent or mortgage, meaning that in limited housing supply areas, this bids selling prices and rents up sky high. White people who expect to live one family unit to a domicile simply can’t afford it.

  • Greg

    I’m sorry, Raj. How do high test scores correlate to high property values?

  • Anonymous

    The causative effect of high test scores on property values seems weak or minor at best. In any case, I’m assuming that the theory is that high test scores result in the perception of an excellent school system which in turn would raise property values.

  • ATBOTL

    “IN this case, MINORITIES are increasing property values with their high intelligence. For those of you who live in parts of the U.S. that only know Black and White, I encourage you to get to know some Asians and Indians- you will be in for a pleasant surprise!”

    The more Asians come here, the less whites like them. We don’t want to replaced by anybody, no matter who they are.

  • Anonymous

    The number of white children declined in all but two of California’s 58 counties over the last decade.

    Well, there it is, folks…in one neat sentence. The handwriting is on the wall.

    Could California’s future possibly be any plainer?

  • white is right, black is whack

    My fear is that whites leave places when there are too many blacks and hispanics, it turns to hell, then these blacks and hispanics follow us, and the process repeats itself. Most whites are too stupid to see a pattern or they deny demographics has anything to do with or they aren’t willing to say it. Until we wake up, see a pattern, and then have the courage to say ‘no more’ without fear of the race hustlers and anti-white crowd, we will forever be repeating this ‘white plight’ cycle.

  • Seneca The Younger

    4-Rajesh

    “IN this case, MINORITIES are increasing property values with their high intelligence. For those of you who live in parts of the U.S. that only know Black and White, I encourage you to get to know some Asians and Indians- you will be in for a pleasant surprise!”

    Rajesh, you are missing the point completely. We are not upset because minorities are lowering the average standardized test scores in our children’s school district. We want to live with our own kind. Now I doubt that you would get too many people that would prefer to live next to a black than a Japanese or Indian, but we should not have to choose.

    And if East Asians or Indians became a majority it still would be no picnic for whites. Countless whites are raped in Japan and India while on vacation, just not as bad as if we went to Somalia. They may be the lesser of two evils, but we won’t pick either.

    And you come on here preaching the greatness of Indians, how better you guys are and we do not give you credit. Explain how half of a billion people in your country cannot read or write? And upper class whites beat out test scores of upper class Indians and east Asians every time. A perfect example of this are the upper class jews in NY and LA. Their tests scores are much higher.

    It has nothing to do with Indians being smarter or committing less crime than blacks. They do, no contest. But us whites want to live around other whites. Look at Vancouver for Indian dominance.

  • joe

    Comments on Cupertino and Asians/Indians from above.

    Housing prices are coming down in these mostly Asian areas like Cupertino. Supply/demand – not because they are “smarter” than everyone else. I live a few miles from there and I noticed the amount of Indians moving there. My opinion, nothing against them, but they are very difficult people to deal with. Rather live around blacks. Asians – yeah, they are basically good people.

    In general, whites moving out is not really news. It’s something we all know about. Surely I’ll be retiring in a few years and then I’m out. I recently was up in Spokane last year visiting a friend — really good place to go – and (still) mostly all white, and English was spoken everywhere. I think that’s where I’m going…

  • Istvan

    4 — Rajesh wrote at 8:09 PM on April 1:

    Sorry, I don’t want to know your kind. At least not any more of them than I do in Asian occupied NJ. I want to live among MY kid, like I did as a kid and young adult. I don’t care if you are lazy or industrious, kind or racist, I don’t want to live among an alien group with strange habits and heathen religions. I have a neighbor whose wife, during warm weather, dries some sort of odd noodle or pasty on sheets on the black-top driveway! Go back to India and make India great. Stop riding on the backs of white Americans. White Americans made America great. Pure and simple. God bless the child who has his own. You have your own country, go there and propser. Or is it not possible to prosper in India? Why can’t India move most of its population into the middle class? What is it that makes your people run away from your people?

    Like the Soviets during WWII I would rather destroy everything as I retreat than let it be taken without a fight.

    I am also sick of whites who want to cozy up to Asians. If you are white and want to libe among Asians move to Indonesia like Barry Sotero’s mother did. Don’t bring them here.

  • Gary

    There’s another problem with Whites leaving California and moving elsewhere. Instead of realizing that they made mistakes with their way of thinking, they want to bring their ideology to the places they move. I know firsthand. I live in East Tennessee and have met at least 4 different couples from California. They all believe strongly in diversity and multiculturalism and think that things are way too conservative here. I am personally hoping that they move away quickly.

  • John Engleman

    7 — Greg wrote at 8:43 PM on April 1:

    I’m sorry, Raj. How do high test scores correlate to high property values?

    ——

    Kids with high test scores have parents with high IQs. Parents with high IQs earn high incomes, and bid up the price of housing.

  • John Engelman

    The housing problem in the San Francisco Bay area is largely caused by laws against high density housing. High density housing would increase the number of family units, reducing the price.

  • Mike

    Rajesh, the Asians who have raised property prices around where I live are 95% cashed-up foreigners who came from overseas. Factory owners, importers, etc. I know, because I have some of them as neighbors. The “high test score” Asians may earn more on average, but not out of the stratosphere more, certainly not enough to make that huge a difference. It’s based primarily on the shift of wealth to the East we’ve undergone these last few decades. I think they are also a primary culprit in the massive increases in housing costs in Australia and Canada, too, that is making life difficult for a lot of people.

  • Anonymous

    4 — Rajesh at 8:09 PM on April 1

    How do test scores raise property values? By the way, Cupertino is a little more than half White and about forty percent asian by my estimates. I don’t know anything about the property values but if its true I’d guess that all the high priced housing was already in the area before YOUR PEOPLE moved there. Cupertino’s growth is also tapering off which probably means that few Whites are moving in and more are leaving while more non-Whites are taking up the slack in the population decline.

    You can judge a people by their country. What does it tell you when the average Indian is walking around in human waste every day? Or bathing in a filthy polluted river while bloated rotten corpses float downstream? A place where family has to guard funeral pyres to prevent body snatchers from stealing the corpses and eating them? Where cows and rats are worshipped as something divine? No doubt some oriental will join in on the conversation under some White moniker like “Jeff”, “Dixie”, or “White Person” and start extolling the superiority of the oriental mind. Show us how superior you really are by doing it in your own countries instead of riding the coattails of Western Civilization.

  • Pelayo

    10 — Anonymous wrote at 9:20 PM on April 1:

    The number of white children declined in all but two of California’s 58 counties over the last decade.

    “Well, there it is, folks…in one neat sentence. The handwriting is on the wall.

    Could California’s future possibly be any plainer?”

    In defense of childless Whites I suggest that many Whites put off children because they are financially enslaved by taxation which supports the proliferation of the least productive and most destructive in our society.

  • Anonymous

    To question diversity…I feel the exact same way.

    I’m sure a house of possibly about 10-15 minorities who have marginal paying jobs can afford a place in the bay area. I remember back when I lived next to a house that probably had a median value of no more than $52,000.

    8 working hispanics and 5 vehicles that had to be no older than a 2000 (one was a 2001 however)…that’s how they can afford places like that! all a group of four has to do is pay around $400 a month (without free rent from whites), you could have a nice expensive place my friend!

  • Seek

    Actually, land use regulation can take care of the problem of Hispanic and Asian families doubling and tripling up in the same dwelling unit. The U.S. Supreme Court over 40 years ago ruled that zoning ordinance-mandated occupancy limits are a valid exercise of local police power.

    Mindful of the charges of “racism” awaiting them, more county and municipal governments should use this authority and impose per-dwelling and/or per-room population restrictions. There is no reason to allow good communities to be transformed into Third World slums so that landlords can maximize their rental income.

  • Anonymous

    Bowling Alone.

    You are isolated amongst hostile ethnies and so becomes closeted and defensive, psychologically. What’s the first thing a -productive- white family does when they can? Moves to the suburbs to get away from the apartment dweller’s cave lifestyle.

    Whatever the differences, mentally or culturally, whites _do not_ overrun their lands at the rate that Asian, African and Central/South American breeders do. For that alone, we are a superior people because we also don’t blow are way through resources and are MUCH more selective (or used to be) about whom we will breed with. Success breeds success as pretty becomes intelligent and you can thank 20,000+ years of living in Ice Age Europe for making us that way: alone and proud.

    The biggest problem with the American lifestyle is that it is intended for anything but the group-bloat of a consumerist globalism. We cannot compete for profits with the likes of the breeder races. Nor should we for that is their critical flaw.

    On Retiring White to Washington.

    Don’t be silly. The color-them-X don’t have to chase you to Spokane or Tennessee or anywhere else for that matter. Do you not get it? In their squallor and corruption they can default the country and make us responsible for their spending habits _all on their own_.

    A white person would be ashamed to live on the dole, a white person would not want to have kids and put them on it too because they couldn’t explain why they were poor. A white person who was stressed about their life might not -have- kids.

    For a Mexican, Somali or East Asian, social stress _induces_ childbearing on a dominate-by-numbers breakout response which is encouraged by the sheer number of transfer payment checks coming in.

    At the very least, your “I worked in California then ran!” attitude will collapse when California declares statewide bankruptcy and your retirement fund goes the same direction that one town down in Alabama I think it was did (see article here: black council tells white retirees that there are no more funds in the city kitty).

    This is why White Survival is _no longer a matter of separation by resegregation_ in the same society. We have to get those divorce papers through the courts and start up a replacement country which looks after it’s own.

    Because our power lies in our ability to cumulatively gain wisdom as age-bias conservatism. To outlive our race-group competitors and impart at least two entire generations of teaching to our children as folkway and stability proof of why we live the way we do.

    And we are in danger of losing that understanding in trade for black music, ghetto pants, Taco Bells and Ipods from slave factories in Asia.

    None of which is worth being dispersed into tighter and tighter island isolates which lose political power, genetic assortive options and commercial and technical excellence until they are swamped. Because we _do not breed to create political dominance_. We let others do that and then are surprised when their lack of internal resource support for their multiple kids leaves us all in poverty stricken debt to their welfare fund.

  • ATBOTL

    “The housing problem in the San Francisco Bay area is largely caused by laws against high density housing. High density housing would increase the number of family units, reducing the price.”

    It’s more caused by geography. Most of the Bay area is water and mountains.

  • Question Diversity

    21: About 7 or 8 years ago, a county in Northern Virginia, or maybe it was a city there, wanted to pass an ordinance stating that you weren’t allowed to let more than a certain number of people sleep in the kitchen of your house. I thought at first that this was a municipality’s lame attempt to land itself in the Dumb Laws website, but then I read down and found out that MALDEF was complaining about it. It was then that I knew the time of day. It all had to do with cram jamming Hispanics into houses.

    Sometimes, when a motivation for a law or ordinance is mysterious, you’ll easily be able to figure out it from the laundry list of groups that oppose it.

  • Blue Willow

    The housing prices in Vancouver, B.C. are through the roof. They have been driven up by rich people from China either moving here, or buying up houses even if they don’t move here. No doubt East Asians and South Asians are much smarter and less violent, on average, then blacks. However, they are moving here from very corrupt countries, and they tend to bring the corruption with them.

    For example there was a Chinese driving school in Vancouver that had an arrangement with one of the driving examiners who works for the government (also an immigrant from the east). For $5000. they would guarantee successful tests. I must say, the drivers from China are appalling. I think in China there are no rules of the road (or no enforceable rules due to corruption) and that is the way they drive in Vancouver, too.

    The East Indians have a gang problem. Admittedly it is probably a pale shadow of the gang problem we would have if they were black instead of Indian. But before the arrival of multiculturalism in the late sixties we didn’t have any blacks at all in Vancouver and still have very few. Vancouver was almost entirely white when I was born there in 1955. It was very quiet and safe. Those days are gone forever.

    I think the reason India and China are still so dysfunctional (which is why people from there move to the west) is because they are so corrupt. Corruption will keep a country down, but the people there don’t realize it. For them corruption is just a way of life. You can’t expect to import millions of people from corrupt countries into the west with out some of that corruption arriving in the west, too. But it is not politically correct to talk about it.

    Look at the Corruption Perception Index at Transparency.org.

  • native Daughter of the Golden West

    Asians have been crowding 20 people into 1,000 sq ft houses over a garage in San Francisco since the 1950’s. They often run a an illegal business in the garage.

    The Zoning laws in San Francisco are defacto null and void in San Francisco because of Asian pressure on the politicians. Asians are allowed to disobey any kind of zoning law in San Francisco and many other places.

    Any building inspector who tried to enforce zoning laws in San Francisco would lose their job and be charged with hate crime. Doesn’t help that due to affirmative action, so many of the building, zoning, restaurant and health inspectors are Asians themselves.

  • Jefferson

    I have a Filipino friend who lives in a nice middle class suburban looking neighborhood in Daly City. The only reason they can afford to live in such a nice looking neighborhood is because there are a whopping 11 people all cramped in one house. So they can afford to split the expenses. They may live in a nice neighborhood, but they still live like sardines in a can.

    It is very rare to see a Caucasian household where you have 11 people under one roof.

  • Exiled From Eden

    Chinese drive up property values by always being able to borrow another $5000 from their tong lord or whoever, in order to outbid a White. They choose a nice White town and take it over by ensuring that every time property changes hands, a Chinese is the top bidder. That’s how it goes in San Marino, Arcadia, and now San Gabriel. (San Gabriel is highly Mexican, but it’s adjacent to the other two towns, and the Chinese are coming in faster than the Whites are leaving.) Alhambra and Temple City are next. It’s not IQ, it’s racial solidarity. Chinese only want to live near Whites until they can replace us with their own kind. We’re foreign devils and big noses to them, but at least we’re not Black or Mexican. They can stomach us as placeholders, but no more. Whites leave not because of Chinese crime, but because it’s simply uncomfortable to live among people who silently despise you.

    I don’t know firsthand about Indians house buying habits, but I’m aware of how the Brahmins look down on ordinary White people. Don’t need any caste system here either.

  • Anonymous

    “…I encourage you to get to know some Asians and Indians- you will be in for a pleasant surprise!” says Rag. Usually it’s an unpleasant surprise such as when the white man’s Asian or Indian boss tells him that he is unemployed, and has a hundred thousand plus of student loan to pay off.

    Asians and Indians regard white men as potential enemies that are in need of termination.

  • Andrew Neather

    Rajesh,

    Before you get too fresh, I’d like to relate a little factoid to you.Prior to 1965 Indians were more or less forbidden to immigrate to the USA.

    In 1965, the USA was a much better society, on virtually every measure than it is today. Furthermore, all the great hi-tech industries that have since transformed our lives eg semiconductors, computers, microprocessors, lasers etc etc were actually developed by White Americans prior to 1965.

  • WASP

    @ 4 — Rajesh

    Agreed. With me, it isn’t as much about color as it is about stupid with me. With that said, I know that what Dr. Rushton says about IQ and race is spot on because it is consistent with reality.

    And whites do have a right to protect their culture from extinction! Yes, being a WASP is a culture.

    If we could just get the low IQ people to stop breeding at 5-10 times the rate of high IQ people, the world would be a much better place for all of us. Crime would go down, poverty would go down, health care costs would go down, welfare cost….the list is endless.

    The birth rate numbers coming out of Africa actually scare me. Well meaning but dumb white missionaries keep bringing them food and digging them wells and never ask them to stop breeding out of control. That must stop.

  • WASP

    “7 — Greg wrote at 8:43 PM on April 1:

    I’m sorry, Raj. How do high test scores correlate to high property values?”

    Greg, ARE YOU SERIOUS?

    Educated people look at the test scores of local school districts b/4 purchasing a home. Uneducated/ignorant/low IQ people do not. High property values are almost always associated with good school districts. Real estate 101.

  • Sardonicus

    California is down to 40% white and whites are leaving California in large numbers. So what sort of future is in store for California? Bankruptcy and default on their debt for one thing. You can’t provide free services to poor, uneducated illegal Latin American immigrants forever. Moreover, real wealth flows from the private not the government sector and California provides too generous benefits for State and local workers. Unfortunately, California’s diminished budget can’t sustain this. Lastly, California will resemble Mexico and Central America as the demographics of that once great state change to a majority Hispanic population. Someday I’m sure the Southwest will revert to Mexico, but I’ll be long gone by then.

  • Nathaniel Branden,Jr.

    The Bay Area is NOT mostly water or mountains. Until 1970 the real estate prices around here were on a par with the rest of the country. Then when the environmental Commies with their multitude of planning, zoning, greenbelt and other infringements on property rights enacted into law, the prices started to shoot through the roof. By 1979 houses in Petaluma hit the 100K mark.

    Triple or more the 1975 prices. Ultimately you will find the hand of government behind both excessive immigration and high prices. Chinese tenants in Oakland are far preferable to Blacks.

    Some Chinese landlords will make big money renting to blacks on Section 8 and since they live in Castro Valley or elsewhere,they could care less what happens to the neighborhood.

    But again the government is behind this. Those of you looking for governmental solutions are living in an alternative universe.

  • Redwood

    “They all believe strongly in diversity and multiculturalism and think that things are way too conservative here. I am personally hoping that they move away quickly.”

    Maybe a little wood burning on their front lawns will send them to NY or Jersey instead. Just suggesting you practice some old traditions, is all.

  • Anonymous

    “And upper class whites beat out test scores of upper class Indians and east Asians every time. A perfect example of this are the upper class jews in NY and LA. Their tests scores are much higher.”

    East Asian scores are particularly high at the top 10% and 5% levels, don’t know where you got your information from.

  • Bruce

    The housing market is just that – a market. Whites apparently think that they are entitled to live in nice neighborhoods just because of their race. Whether they are descendants of the so-called “founders,” or whether they believe that somehow it is “fair” that whites continue to live with their “own kind” is entirely irrelevant. Housing prices are determined by demand. Foreigners may be able to afford choice real estate because their higher intelligence allows them better paying jobs and income. Or they may be willing to double up and make sacrifices. Or maybe they just bring cash with them. If they are smart, disciplined or wealthy they have the right to legally purchase whatever they desire. If whites continue to want to live in choice neighborhoods they had better quickly adopt the successful strategies of the foreign buyers.

  • ghw

    “California will resemble Mexico and Central America as the demographics of that once great state change to a majority Hispanic population. Someday I’m sure the Southwest will revert to Mexico…”

    —————-

    I don’t know about that. I wouldn’t be too sure. Not is Asians have anything to say about it. Mexicans might yet get a big surprise. A new powerful China (or India) might choose to step in and impose their will, and Mexico would be absolutely helpless to do anything about it.

    China (or India) could swamp California (and Mexico too, for that matter!) with their swarming billions. Mexicans may yet come to regret their dreams of Reconquista and wish they had the white man back in charge again.

    Frankly, California is much too rich a piece of real estate to be left in the hands of Mexicans; so that condition won’t last for long. The lions will seize it from the jackals.

  • Paul

    ‘IN this case, MINORITIES are increasing property values with their high intelligence. For those of you who live in parts of the U.S. that only know Black and White, I encourage you to get to know some Asians and Indians- you will be in for a pleasant surprise!’ ???

    Ha Ha, have to bite on a lemon to keep from laughing. Go and visit India and see what type of society these High-intelligence people create. And as I keep saying. Whites are the only people that don’t FLEE their country at the first sign of problems. If your intelligence is so high go back to India and help clean the place up.

  • Anonymous

    4 — Rajesh wrote at 8:09 PM on April 1:

    “I encourage you to get to know some Asians and Indians- you will be in for a pleasant surprise!”

    My landlord is an Indian. It ain’t pleasant, and it ain’t a surprise.

  • Anonymous

    “I encourage you to get to know some Asians and Indians- you will be in for a pleasant surprise!”

    Here you go, a little taste of India:

    http://www.chinasmack.com/2010/pictures/filthy-india-photos-chinese-netizen-reactions.html

  • Exiled From Eden

    37 Bruce: Whites do have the right to live in White neighborhoods. Whether those neighborhoods are nice should be determined by the behavior of Whites, not by others. Do I have a right to move to China? No, and neither have they a right to come here. “Our” government that says they have a right to colonize the nice towns that Whites created, also says that discrimination against Whites is legal. “Our” government says that any foreign baby that gets dropped on U.S. soil is an American, and refuses to guard its borders from even the illegal swarms from the south. A government like that has no legitimacy, and we are no more bound by their anti-White laws than the French were bound by the laws of the German occupiers.

  • WASP

    @34 — Sardonicus wrote at 11:52 AM on April 3:

    quote:

    “California is down to 40% white and whites are leaving California in large numbers. So what sort of future is in store for California?”

    I used to work for the big three in automotive marketing. We watched CA and NY very closely for trends. All marketing people know that the east and west coasts are barometers for the future.

    I have a solution. Have all the liberals move to the LEFT side of the country (west of the Mississippi River) and all the conservatives move to the RIGHT side of the country. And then we will see very quickly which policies and groups of people will be successful and which will fail.

  • Seneca the Younger

    36- Anonymous

    “And upper class whites beat out test scores of upper class Indians and east Asians every time. A perfect example of this are the upper class jews in NY and LA. Their tests scores are much higher.”

    East Asian scores are particularly high at the top 10% and 5% levels, don’t know where you got your information from.

    “The Bell Curve (1994) stated that the average IQ African Americans was 85; Latino 89; White 103; Asian 106; and Jews 113.

    The Bell Curve goes on to say that upper class non-jewish whites are on par with jews as well. Whites OVERALL scores are lower because there are SIGNIFICANTLY MORE lower class whites. If they are all taken from the same class whites outscore Asians. Where do you your information from?

  • Jay

    #29 wrote: “Chinese only want to live near Whites until they can replace us with their own kind.”

    For anyone who doubts the veracity of that statement, come and hang out in central Queens some time. Chinese, Korean and other Asians are building a world unto themselves out here, and they have no time for multi-culturalism (unless it’s theirs) and they have no time for browns or blacks.

    They tolerate whites because we’re generally nice neighbors, but then they buy us out as we get old and die. In ten years my neighborhood has gone from Jewish and Italian (I’m neither, very WASPy) to about 70% Asian. Where do they come from? How do they get here in such numbers and so fast?

  • Anonymous

    It doesn’t matter if Whites are ethnically cleansed by Blacks, Hispanics, Chinese, or Indians. The result is the same: the extinction of the beautiful and accomplished whites, and their fantastic civilizations.

    Should we be happy that in certain areas our genocide is being accomplished by not by the normal Hispanics, but by East-Indians?

  • Bruce

    Americans have led soft lives in the last 50 years. They’ve become fat and lazy with a sense of superiority to which they are not entitled. Indian and Asian immigrants are here to stay. Many of them have become citizens and are sending their bright, hard working children to elite colleges. Instead of whining and complaining, perhaps white Americans ought to work harder, as the legal immigrants do, and prepare American children for the competition ahead. Since psychological tests indicate that many Indians and Asians have an intellectual advantage, white Americans well have to work very hard indeed.

  • Anonymous

    I am not so sure that Asians [east and west] don’t commit as much crime as hispanics and blacks. It’s just of a white collar, corrupting nature.

  • Anonymous

    45 — Anonymous wrote at 6:43 PM on April 4:

    ‘It doesn’t matter if Whites are ethnically cleansed by Blacks, Hispanics, Chinese, or Indians. The result is the same: the extinction of the beautiful and accomplished whites, and their fantastic civilizations.

    Should we be happy that in certain areas our genocide is being accomplished not by the normal Hispanics, but by East-Indians?”

    Let me ask this. Why are we here bemoaning what we perceive as our fate? Why aren’t we doing something about it? Are we going to accept it as inevitable. In that case why don’t we get it over with and commit mass suicide?

    White men, look between your legs and reacquaint yourself with your balls.

    How many more Wichitas and Knoxvilles are you willing to endure before you rise up?

  • Eman

    This is basically ceding the area to Asians. In 50 years it seems the entire West Coast of the USA and Canada will be majority Asian. That’s very bad news – Asians (especially Chinese) are hungry for territories to dump their surplus population. The USA and Canada shouldn’t allow itself to become a dumping ground for hundreds of millions of Asiatics.

  • Schoolteacher

    46 Bruce: You’re right that Americans have had it easy since WW2. We built a strong, well functioning society where we didn’t have to scratch in the dirt every day just to get by. We were entitled to that, since we built it. It’s the foreigners who have the unwarranted sense of superiority. They’ve come here to get what they cannot get in their homelands. Yes, they’re generally smart, but only because they’re selected from the elites of their own countries. Testing Chinese IQs in Vancouver or Silicon Valley tells us nothing about the average factory worker or farmer back in China. And I wouldn’t count on them staying here. They may have gotten American citizenship, but few of them have any real loyalty. As White racial awareness grows, White-hating Asians will find themselves as welcome here as a White is now in some once White cities, and will scuttle back to the motherland. More and more Whites are realizing that we’re being deliberately pushed aside by our own government, and are pushing back. Asian colonization in America is a temporary historical phase that will pass, like our occupation of the Phillipines. In the long run, it will be good for us. We will have learned to reject a lot of bad philosophy and bad policy, going back to what works, like China and Japan have.

  • Anonymous

    “But it will be much better than SF was in the 1970s,when blacks were terrorizing us constantly.” ……………..

    Also terrorizing the East Coast

    as per MAKES ME WANNA HOLLER by Nathan McCall.

    He describes his PERSONAL PARTICIPATION. Not “hearsay.”

    http://www.amazon.com/Makes-Me-Wanna-Holler-America/dp/0679740708

  • Mark

    Bruce: is a High IQ Asian or Indian the really end all (ideal) for you?

    The last I read, really “high IQ” Chinese blindly followed a man by the name of Mao who indirectly and directly killed 40 – 80 million of his own people.

    I’d rather live with a culture who produced the US Constitution than “smarter” lemmings who followed a mass murderer.

  • MEG

    What happens when all the taxpayers leave California? It is happening now.

  • Browser

    Eman wrote:

    “This is basically ceding the area to Asians.

    In 50 years, it seems the entire West Coast of the USA and Canada will be majority Asian.”

    _________________

    This makes one stop and think. Were the much-reviled persons who warned us of the Yellow Peril and who passed the Chinese Exclusion Act, actually RIGHT AFTER ALL?

    Now, they are scorned and laughed at as paranoid. But events are proving them to have been right. Maybe they were smarter than we have been. They left us a large, rich country; and our foolish generation has given it away.

    What other nation in history has ever given their country away?