DiversityInc., June 25, 2009
Frank McCloskey’s wife of 31 years, Debbie, talked about her husband with her new coworkers, telling them about his job as vice president of diversity for Georgia Power. During lunch one day, Debbie, who is white, had just finished telling a story about Frank’s diversity efforts when a colleague of hers said, “I want to tell you how courageous it is that you are married to an African American.” Oops! Frank is white.
Too often, white men—and to a lesser extent, white women—are assumed to have no role in diversity-and-inclusion efforts. But white people who are heterosexual, Christian and not disabled can and do champion diversity efforts. To assume otherwise is like assuming that talented Black or Latino executives do not exist.
To further explore stereotypes about white people in the corporate-diversity world, DiversityInc talked to several white men intimately involved in diversity-and-inclusion efforts. Here are nine things they suggest never saying to your white colleagues.
1. “You’re a carpet-bagger” or “Why is a white guy doing this?”
It is often said in murmurs but not openly talked about that white people involved in the diversity industry are carpet-baggers, people involved for the money rather than the mission. Luke Visconti ,CEO of DiversityInc [who is white], takes offense at such sentiments.
“A person at a financial institution [who works in diversity] said I’m only making money from diversity. But if she is working in a diversity department, isn’t she making money off of diversity also? Now that we got past the fact that we both make money on diversity, let’s look at what we do for diversity,” says Visconti.
2. “You’re not diverse”
Diversity includes white people. It is incorrect and insulting to use the word “diverse” to refer to people other than white heterosexual men with no ADA-defined disabilities. All people are included in the concept of “diversity.” As a result, properly executed diversity management benefits all people in an organization.
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Visconti makes the point that in today’s America, many white people have a personal involvement with traditionally underrepresented groups. {snip}
Moreover, Visconti affirms that to assume a white person cannot have a true, heartfelt connection with diversity is historically wrong.
{snip} Many white people have been and still are at the forefront of societal change to eliminate oppression and increase equity,” says Visconti.
3. “There’s no way you as a white person can understand”
But the knee-jerk response is “If that’s true, then why should I try to understand?” says Howard Ross, the white founder and chief learning officer for Cook Ross, a Maryland-based diversity consultancy.
Don’t beat up your white colleagues by cloaking them in the shroud of “ignorant oppressor” while wearing the shroud of “victim.” Look for the personal stories that will develop commonalities and shared ideas.
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Visconti adds that saying you can’t understand because you’re white is treating a white person as if he or she is ignorant of culture and diversity issues. {snip}
4. White men are automatically “in the corporate in-crowd”
Being isolated or segregated from the in-crowd is not unique to executives who are Black, Latino, Asian American, Native American, people with disabilities or LGBT people.
“For the most part, [white men] don’t feel they’re included or privileged,” says McCloskey. {snip}
McCloskey adds that corporate leadership must rid itself of subtle behaviors that create disengagement and mistrust, “not only for African Americans, women and other dimensions of diversity but also for white men.”
5. “You’re just a typical white person”
Yes, Barack Obama said it and was thoroughly chastised for describing his white grandmother as a “typical” white person. The implication in such a statement is that all white people are alike, and that white people are all predisposed to be prejudiced. But characterizing anyone based on the presupposed behavior of a group is a slippery slope that leads to confusion and miscommunication, says Ross.
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6. “You KNOW you’re being racist”
In the absence of concrete evidence, don’t assume that a comment considered prejudiced was the result of a conscious thought process designed to stereotype, says Ross.
“We’re learning that an overwhelming number of decisions people make are not made by bad intentions but are made by people blind to their own behavior,” says Ross. “Rather than assume that a person intended to be sexist or prejudiced, assume they didn’t mean any malicious intent.”
McCloskey adds that often people who are not white assume whites know their behavior is racist or prejudiced: “But being in a place of privilege is such a powerful place to be that the assumption is that everyone is living my life experience.”
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7. “You talk about us when we’re not around”
Being in the majority group provides freedom from the constant concern of race issues and fear of people who do not share your racial or ethnic background. So white people usually are not talking about Blacks, Latinos or Asian Americans when people from those groups are not around.
“Generally, we’re being oblivious and doing our thing,” says Visconti. “Being oblivious doesn’t make you a bad person. It just makes you oblivious.”
8. “You’ve got all the money”
“My first response is, ‘No, I don’t,’” says Jeff Hitchcock, executive director for the Center for the Study of White American Culture. He adds that while the majority of people who are poor are white, it is true that the percentage of whites who are poor is less than the percentage of Blacks, Latinos and Native Americans who are poor.
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Hitchcock also says that many people mistake the make-up and the purpose of his organization, assuming that any reference to white culture must be a veiled reference to white supremacy. To dispel that notion, he put the following in bold letters on the center’s homepage: “Not an organization for white supremacists as some people might infer, we are instead a multiracial organization that looks at whiteness and white American culture.”
9. “I don’t like white people” or “I don’t get white people”
Unfortunately, people do communicate things like this. “In a business setting, a person probably wouldn’t respond, but people can give off vibes,” says Hitchcock. “Sometimes I get that vibe from people of color and I don’t know if it’s me giving off a vibe or it’s them—it’s probably both.”
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“As a white person, you should be aware of that history and how that has led us to the present,” adds Hitchcock.
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Original article
(Posted on June 25, 2009)
Comments
A summation:
“Don’t hate all white people. Some of them are liberal.”
The diversity industry? How big an industry is the diversity industry?
How many hysterics, opportunists and hustlers does it employ?
Who earns the money that pays them?
If your company hires a diversity consultant, isn’t part of his/her/its/their fee paid by people who actually produce the good or service that brings in the money? Coulkd that money be better spent on real problems?
How do people qualify to be diversity trainers? Is there a course of study, a degree to be achieved, or a federal or state license to be obtained?
Or is it something handed over to glib poverty pimps and truculent women in comfortable shoes, in order to save the money that would be lost to consumer boycott or litigation mounted by all the victims white men oppress??
Is anyone else uneasy about this de facto smear of men who aren’t black/brown/yellow/gay/crippled or saving up their dough for the final surgical procedure that will make them women?
How long will it be before we are rounded up and interned for the duration of the war against racism, sexism, ageism, classism, heterosexualism and able bodiedism?
These people are hysterical or just plain nuts, and there is very little time left for sane adults to dilute the effect their hysteria is having upon the body politic.
“Yes, Barack Obama said it and was thoroughly chastised for describing his white grandmother as a “typical” white person.”
Thoroughly chastized? By whom? It seemed to me like the media just swept it under the rug along with the rest of his blatantly anti-white background.
“It is incorrect and insulting to use the word “diverse” to refer to people other than white heterosexual men with no ADA-defined disabilities. All people are included in the concept of “diversity.” As a result, properly executed diversity management benefits all people in an organization.”
California, Texas, New York, Georgia, and Hawaii have yet to get that memo. Neither have the schools, social services and the employers in Gary, Indiana, Detroit, Michigan, and Newark New Jersey.
It’s as if the people who made this diversity list, have been listening to White Nationalists. This new directive is a contradiction however. Making diversity white-friendly is making diversity fight against itself. Eveyone knows diversity stands for people of color, and promoting whatever their agenda is.
Unlike blacks, I’m not afraid to be seen as who and what I am.
Tell me I’m a stereotypical white man and I’ll respond with ‘Thank-you for noticing’.
I’m all in favor of white people who work in the “diversity industry” being insulted, abused, denied promotions, and discriminated against by their “diverse” co-workers. They make their livings by pushing more white people out of jobs, encouraging corporate managers to discriminate against us, and telling us white people how wicked we are.
As Bob Whitaker said, diversity means fewer whites. So let the diversity industry be maximally diverse.
Anybody who works in an industry where these kinds of thoughts are discussed or worried over would be better off selling pencils on the sidewalk in a remote all-white town.
I’m not only in favor of avoiding blacks in the workplace and community, but I think they should be avoided everywhere on earth.
I realize some people are forced to work in such an environment, and I do “feel” for them. But I have to say no amount of money would ever make me stay.
How I would respond:
1. “You’re a carpet-bagger”
2. “You’re not diverse”
3. “There’s no way you as a white person can understand”
4. White men are automatically “in the corporate in-crowd”
5. “You’re just a typical white person”
But the knee-jerk response is “If that’s true, then why should I try to understand?” says Howard Ross, the white founder and chief learning officer for Cook Ross, a Maryland-based diversity consultancy.
If one can only understand being x, or even any given facet of being x, by actually being x, then why do a-w, y, and z get to compare white understandings with their own? I see this all the time, sometimes from the same people! I.e., they’ll go on for paragraphs about whitey’s psychology, and then proceed to tell me whitey can never understand the mind of the x man!
How I would respond:
1. “You’re a carpet-bagger”
2. “You’re not diverse”
3. “There’s no way you as a white person can understand”
4. White men are automatically “in the corporate in-crowd”
5. “You’re just a typical white person”
6. “You KNOW you’re being racist”
7. “You talk about us when we’re not around”
8. “You’ve got all the money”
9. “I don’t like white people” or “I don’t get white people”
My company uses Diversity Inc. as it’s foundation for all it’s diversity measures. The company was started by a white guy from New Jersey. I’ll give him credit, as a white dude he knew where the money-making opportunity was and went for it: Diversity.
You throw a white dude out of a three-story window and he will land on his feet and find a way to make money from it. If there’s oil in the hills of Diversity, he will build the rig to get it out of the ground…
I suspect what it means is that the professional Diversitoids are (belatedly) waking up to the fact that white people don’t enjoy their employer-mandated self-flagellation auto-criticism sessions. Maybe these particular anti-racist trainers have been getting an earful from non-self-hating whites — and have calculated that they’d better stop ideologically whipping caucasians quite so hard or their whole Diversity Training Seminars house of cards might come tumbling down.
Of course, if the Diversitoids were REALLY paying attention to white people’s reactions to their race-baiting scams, they’d know that our anger is at the point that what we want from people like them is not to be included, but for them to LEAVE US ALONE. If the “anti-racist” industry truly wanted to do us a favor, they’d dissolve all their silly indoctrination schemes and go get REAL jobs in the private sector.
But we all know THAT’S not gonna happen anytime soon…
Should these 9 things be considered “hate crimes”?
1. “You’re a carpet-bagger” or “Why is a white guy doing this?”
This belongs in the “things not to say to a honkey carpet-bagger Uncle Tom” list I think. I’d just laugh for a few minutes in response, as I’m the diametrical opposite.
2. “You’re not diverse”
*Laughter* My politics are extremely diverse. And divergent! But seriously, let’s talk phenotype and culture…
3. “There’s no way you as a white person can understand”
There’s no way you as a non-white person can understand.
4. White men are automatically “in the corporate in-crowd”
*Laughter* You’re talking to a man who grew up with more black neighborhood friends than he did white. Who has cleaned toilets and cut lawns for a living. The idea that you know my background is laughable.
5. “You’re just a typical white person”
Untrue, I can admit wanting my grandchildren to look like my grandparents. And to wanting my grandchildren’s environment to look like my grandparents’ environment.
6. “You KNOW you’re being racist”
Let’s play “who’s the bigger racist”!
7. “You talk about us when we’re not around”
Of course we do. You should see what white men say about the whole lot when there are only other white men around. Especially southern white men!
8. “You’ve got all the money”
*Pulls lint out of pocket and gives it to idiot* “There, now you have my share.”
Or,
“Who made whitey rich in the first place? (if they respond “it’s ill gotten gain” then reply, “so now you want a share in stolen goods? Does that mean you’ll share the blame too? Oh wait, you can’t do that, sorry, forget I said anything.”
9. “I don’t like white people” or “I don’t get white people”
I dislike you, as an individual.
Whites who work in the “diversity industry” should be viewed in the same way as concentration camp inmates who collaborated with the Nazis.
This article is pathetic. White people are facing annihilation and these idiots jabber about diversity etiquette.
“I’m all in favor of white people who work in the “diversity industry” being insulted, abused, denied promotions, and discriminated against by their “diverse” co-workers. They make their livings by pushing more white people out of jobs, encouraging corporate managers to discriminate against us, and telling us white people how wicked we are.”
That’s not true. I am a white female in my twenties. I work in the “diversity” industry. It is my personal mission to enforce fair treatment FOR ALL. In no way are my job duties directed only at helping minorities.
And for the record, I am far from liberal. Although this generally surprises my super liberal NYC co-workers, I am who I am and I am honest about it.
To sbuffalonative,
Of course you don’t mind being called a stereotypical white man because the connotations of being White are entirely a positive thing from your point of view, despite the negative view a minority might hold about your White status. On the other hand, calling someone a stereotypical Black man is a huge insult to just about anyone no matter what race.
In fact, I have awoken quite a few White men by criticizing their behavior as typically Black. And I mean it in a constructive way, because no matter what one’s views on race are, once a White guy realizes that he’s behaving like a Black man, he usually makes the effort to correct that mistake.
“So let the diversity industry be maximally diverse.”
It already is. A white power report showed that in 16 out of 17 agencies of the federal government, whites were greatly underrepresented as compared to their percentage of the population. At the Equal Opportunity Department (where one would expect to find the most equality) whites were underrepresented by over 600%.
This is just how well they are represented compared to their overall population of the United States, and not to the age group of those either holding a job or holding a job with the federal government (the non-white population in the US has an average age close to 20 years of age (not even in the job market) while the white population has an average age close to 40.)
I’ve actually heard of several of the people mentioned in that article. I thought some of you might be interested in Jeff Hitchcocks bio from one of the organizations he’s a member of.CURE: Caucasians United for Reparations and Emancipations. Jeff Hitchcock co-founded the Center for the Study of White American Culture in 1995 and continues today as Executive Director. In 2003, under his guidance, the Center started the White Anti-racist Community Action Network, an online community of more than 1,200 members. He is author of the book, Lifting the White Veil: An Examination of White American Culture in a Multiracial Context.
I am a ‘typical white guy’? Why, yes, I help build empires. As far as diversity, it’s just another way of saying White displacement and carries a bad connotation for white thinkers. It would really be hard not to have bad feelings for a White who works towards corporate diversity.
Just imagine the power we would have if we united.
The world’s on fire and we had better wake up soon.
Notice the hypocritters who wrote this article capitalize “Black” but not “white”!
Two-faced jerks.
“diverse” is a code word that was invented so as to purposely exclude White/Christian/normalsexual/male.
Well, here we go again…. once again, note how when the writer of this article mentions white people, it’s “white” with a lower-case W—-when referring to blacks or other non-whites, it’s capitalized (i.e. “white” and “Black”)
Why can’t you say these things to a white colleagues? If a white person were to get offended by a comment, who cares? They’re white, they need to be punished for all the evil -isms and -phobias they are responsible for. Besides, if your white colleagues are good little liberals, they will just smile and laugh and join in on the fun of white-guy bashing.
I actually thought this was a joke at first. Apparently they are serious yet they still consider whites as something less than human. That is the underlying message of ALL diversity indoctrination programs.
When these racists start mentioning black-on-white racism (affirmative action, hate crimes, hoax crimes, hate speech …etc) then I will listen to them.
Whitey Ford writes:
“Why can’t you say these things to a white colleagues? If a white person were to get offended by a comment, who cares? They’re white, they need to be punished for all the evil -isms and -phobias they are responsible for. Besides, if your white colleagues are good little liberals, they will just smile and laugh and join in on the fun of white-guy bashing.”
Just so. You can’t make a (very lucrative) career out of hectoring,harassing, bashing and scapegoating white people and then say. “well, there are certain things you shouldn’t say to them or they will get angry or have their feelings hurt.”
If we are 1% as evil and racist as they say we are, then why should anyone care if we get angry or have hurt feelings.
Sounds like the diversity gaulieters are getting soft and starting to think of whites as almost human. This will not do! I am calling on Tim Wise or Louis Farrakhan to come in and give them some remedial training.
What they finally realized was that in their diverse workplaces no one but whites “celebrated diversity”, and they came to realize that their whole shtick was about to disappear. Its really quite simple ask the non-whites if they celbrate diversity, they will look at you like you are a Martian.
To be quite honest, referring to #9, honestly I don’t get allot of white people either. Especially the self-loathing diversity kind.
15 Madison Grant is right. The Jewish Ghetto Police were the cruelest of the cruel, knowing just how to make their fellow Jews hurt the most. White anti-racists over the age of 21 are the vilest of the vile.
“White men are automatically “in the corporate in-crowd”.”
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I remember reading something by Scott Adams (of “Dilbert”) that correctly nailed it: OTHER white men are the corporate executives (i.e. 0.01%). They do not represent all white men.
CM @ 10:53:
I am a white female in my twenties. I work in the “diversity” industry. It is my personal mission to enforce fair treatment FOR ALL. In no way are my job duties directed only at helping minorities.
You sound like you have pure motives and good intentions, but you’re young, and apparently quite naive.
Your “personal mission” is irrelevant. Your higher-ups have no interest in enforcing fair treatment for white people, and certainly not at the expense of any bad will from any minority groups. There’s simply no angle to it.
Whatever your personal mission might be, promoting the interests of non-whites, often at the expense of more competent whites (though not always) is your bosses’ professional mission. They will make it yours as well.
Notice the hypocritters who wrote this article capitalize “Black” but not “white”!
Yes, I did. But I wouldn’t be too worried about this, i think Eric Idle and Michael Palin must have written this article…
- “CURE: Caucasians United for Reparations and Emancipations.”
- “The Center started the White Anti-racist Community Action Network…”
- “Jeff writes and speaks on the topics of white American culture, white privilege, and what white people can do to help create a multiracial society. He is a reparations advocate…”
Eric, Michael…come on, own up now.
At my place of employment, a Midwestern community college, diversity hiring means hiring anything-but-white. We can find too few qualified blacks and Hispanics to hire as professors, so we’ll take Indians or Koreans—even if they are not citizens and barely speak English.
Diversity is simply a war against white people, an overt attempt to marginalize and displace them from the society institutions they created.
California, Texas, New York, Georgia, and Hawaii have yet to get that memo.
Neither has the federal government, which is making a serious attempt to employ all the blacks in the world.
“Madison Grant wrote at 10:50 PM on June 25:
Whites who work in the “diversity industry” should be viewed in the same way as concentration camp inmates who collaborated with the Nazis.”
We should come up with a term that is sufficiently HATEFUL for such a person. (Yes, it is all right, indeed normal, to HATE your executioner’s assistant.) “Quisling” won’t exactly work anymore; not enough people know their history.
Any suggestions?
“…Notice the hypocritters who wrote this article capitalize “Black” but not “white”!…”
The media do this as well. Notice how they always print ‘African-American’, ‘Hispanic’, ‘Latino, Asian’, and then…..’white’.
This is done on purpose to belittle Whites and that is why I always ALWAYS capitalize White in reference to people.
Please, all of you, from now on, capitalize White when referring to Whites, it is NOT a small thing.
PS: I also refuse to capitalize things for which or people for whom I have no respect: obama, black activists/whiners, crooked politicians such as pelosi and reid, hispanic racists or any other such thing that denigrates and debases Whites or White culture.
Bon
This article is pathetic.
All of these ‘statements’ are racial accusations meant to put Whites in an apologetic, groveling position.
You will never win from a lame, defensive position no matter what your say. You will be perceived as weak as you try to futility defend yourself to non-Whites and prove you not a racist like all other Whites.
If a black called me a Carpet-Bagger I would immediately ask him to define the term, doubtful he would have a clue as to its meaning.
Or, you could tell them forcefully the following, courtesy of FredonEverything:
“…You seem perfectly willing to live in a world that White European males built. ..Look around you and see whether you can find anything, with a moving part, that isn’t the work of White Europeans. You might start with your refrigerator, which you probably don’t understand. What about your hair dryer? You do know how an electric motor works?
To you, a computer is a commodity….White, Europeans, mostly dead, of phenomenal brilliance developed the underlying math and theory: Gauss, Newton and Leibniz, LaGrange, Shannon, Hamilton, Galois, perhaps Minsky.
Those who don’t like Whites try spending a week without the things that White have foolishly provided for you, so that you can complain in comfort.
Expect to be shouted down by those who were taught that blacks and other non-Whites invented the modern world and all of its technology. Remember this is what the K-12 textbooks teach, along with a belief that everything attributed to Whites was stolen from indigenous cultures around the world, that this entire society was ‘built upon the backs of non-Whites for the benefit of Whites.’
Of course, trying to explain these things to those with double digit IQs and an inherent inability to reason will be difficult if not impossible and therefore a waste of time—kind of like trying to ‘prove’ you are not a racist..
It is not possible to debate, reason or argue with those who have been ingrained from birth with the dogma that Whites are the evil scourges of the world and that unless Whites are forcefully tethered down or eliminated by the government, they will resurrect slavery, the Third Reich, Jim Crow laws, and outright pogroms against non-Whites.
We should have kept our innovations to ourselves and locked the doors to others permanently in the 20s.
Bon
“Diversity is simply a war against white people, an overt attempt to marginalize and displace them from the society institutions they created.”
While on it’s face this may seem to be true, what people don’t realize is that white people will never stop creating… achieving… improving… building. The minorities may have chased us out of our cities but we have created amazing suburbs.
White people are fighters & survivors. These people may be winning the battles but they can never win the war. Whites are 1/10 of the world’s population and we outright dominate. We always will.
“White people are fighters & survivors. These people may be winning the battles but they can never win the war. Whites are 1/10 of the world’s population and we outright dominate. We always will.”
Just as whites still dominate Persia, Anatolia, North Africa, Rhodesia and South Africa?
When a Black or Latino calls me a typical White man, I tell them that they are in every way, typical for Blacks and Latinos, too. Of course, I do not mean it as a compliment, but they are too ignorant to know that.
Paragraph two said Whites are working to reduce oppression and increase equity. Just how are these Minorities oppressed, when they get everything, and I do mean everything, handed to them?
The only ones oppressed are the Native Born White Christian American males. We don’t seem to count for a damned thing, here.
I think “diversity” training or policies are simply attempts to get rid of meaningless jobs that can be done by idiots. It is a form of social engineering.
And, perhaps, white people should be glad (can I say that, is it even the right word?) that they are receiving cultural cues about what jobs are important. In essence, the jobs that “diversity” bequeaths to other races are the ones we shouldn’t want or society doesn’t value.
Also, if we believe that a job that society thinks lacks value is valuable, we are the only ones with the ability to change that societal perception.
42 Lygeia: You’re right that the jobs given to the diverse are often the jobs least valued by liberals, but they are often the most useful jobs, particularly the trades. I suspect that this is because leftists are all college-snots and class bigots and think that only stupid people would want to become electricians or machinists. They imagine that there’s no need for a tradesman to actually think, and so Blacks can easily do the work. Locally, for example, there was a government-funded training program for would-be machinists, non-Whites only of course. Only simple arithmetic was required, and the instructors were supposed to force feed a few equations into the dummies’ heads in lieu of a real understanding of algebra, geometry, and basic trigonometry.
If the American economy is ever to be restored to something more than a cash cow for financiers, we will need intelligent people who can actually get things done, not another crop of White kids with degrees in sociology, nor a bunch of non-White plumbers’ helpers passing as journeymen.
Pathetic. And Whites who are involved in such are exactly that.
Wild Eyed Charlie:
Some terms for caucasions who work in the “diversity industry”:
collaborator
kapo
white sellout
“Pathetic. And Whites who are involved in such are exactly that.”
Instead of villifying whites who are involved in this, you too, should get involved in something… anything other than ranting and raving anonymously on a website.
Perhaps it is effective for whites to be involved in the process of PRESERVING OUR RIGHTS… RIGHTS THAT WERE BESTOWED UPON US BY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS!
Such is the case with whites however, that they become complacent.. and instead will allow the minorities to further their interests by keeping quiet and scathing instead on a website. I, however, speak up in the board room for what is right! And I am one of the “young, naive diversity-employed whites” that you all seem to detest so much.
I think its pathetic that whites sit online and rant and rave while minorities are busy taking action. It’s embarassing to me, and to my generation. I wish whites would speak up. I have devoted a portion of my professional life to exploring this “diversity process” and acquiring knowledge on it; instead of making rash assumptions that everyone is out to beat whitey.
46 CM: You have no idea what other posters do other than writing their thoughts here. For all you know we are all members of the U.S. Congress who are forming the White Congressional Caucus. Don’t say we do nothing other than rant and rave, because you do not know who we are.
On the note of diversity, last I checked Whites are the minority on a global aspect of things.
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Hi, Schoolteacher:
I saw your post above. My take on this is that rich, powerful people want America de-industrialized.
If we have no qualified workers in manufacturing, these jobs go overseas, hence these ridiculous training programs offered only to minorities who can’t learn.
As if the “training” programs aren’t bad enough, even if someone wants to start a manufacturing facility here in the U.S., while I am not saying it is completely impossible, they will have to jump through so many bureaucratic and regulatory hoops before they can even get started as to make it virtually impossible.
Then, if they are able to weather that storm and finally open their business, they will be stopped by the unqualified minorities who are the only ones that apply for these types of jobs. And the cycle continues, to the detriment of affordable family formation for qualified white men who could do these jobs extremely well.
49 Lygeia: I do worry that when the U.S. credit rating drops enough and we are forced to live on our own resources and do our own work, the half-trained Mexicans will have a corner on the useful skills because the intelligent Whites who ought be doing that work went to college instead. BTW, I do not worry that Blacks will get those jobs, too few of them are able enough to be considered even half trained. They are apprentices for life.
CM wrote — “Whites are 1/10 of the world’s population and we outright dominate. We always will.”
I would not be so self-confident! Certainly we should not be, if we keep giving everything away to others … all our advantages, including our power over our own lives and over our own destinies.
You say you are in your twenties. You are obviously well intentioned, but just as obviously, you are still very naive! A good rule in life for a twenty-year-old to learn is to take nothing for granted.
I also find it astonishingly naive that CM, however admirable her intentions, thinks that she can run her own diversity program, fairly and independently according to her own ideals, as if answerable to no one. Is she going to write her own laws too? And, if necessary, be her own judge and police, if that time comes? We are all just cogs in the wheel and ultimately we must fit into the bigger scheme, like it or not.
Diversity, let’s face it, was not devised or intended for the benefit of whites. ALL of the diversity professionals that I have dealt with have simply assumed this as a given; some others have stated it very explicitly. And I said ALL! CM is surely the exception, but how long can she hold out? It’s like one person standing against the tide. If she thinks she is going to reform the monstrous “Diversity Industry” single-handedly, then she is deluded.
“I think its pathetic that whites sit online and rant and rave while minorities are busy taking action. It’s embarassing to me, and to my generation. I wish whites would speak up. I have devoted a portion of my professional life to exploring this “diversity process” and acquiring knowledge on it; instead of making rash assumptions that everyone is out to beat whitey.” — CM
#1. For someone admittedly in her twenties, how many years of that rich professional experience have you devoted to exploring this complex matter?
#2. It has hardly been the case that whites sit and do nothing while “minorities are busy taking action”. If you did a little more investigating, you would learn that almost invariably it has been whites, and their many white-run and financed foundations and other institutions, that have incessantly backed those, ahem, “minorities” during the past century, while the “minorities” have actually done very little of the work for themselves. Indeed, without the advice, backing, and sponsorship of benevolent whites, those “minorities’ would still be very much where they were a century ago. In short, the notion of black progress in the USA has been very much a creation of whites — a gift, actually. (Not to say that those who gave the gift did not expect to get something in return!)
#3. No one is assuming that “everyone is out to beat whitey”. Nor are people making “rash assumptions.” Yours is the rash assumption. This topic is one with very deep roots, not at all superficial. Do some reading. Start with the history of the NAACP. Read Prof. MacDonald. You’ve got a lot yet to learn. Nothing is as it appears on the surface, and nothing can be understood by rash assumptions.
(46 — CM wrote at 12:20 AM on June 29):
“I, however, speak up in the board room for what is right!”
Good for you!!!
But please deepen your understanding of what you’re in the middle of, for your own sake, and for the sake of being able to accomplish something.
You’re not involved in a struggle of principle (of “what is right,” as you put it, or what is wrong), you’re involved in a struggle for power.
Virtually none of the minorities you address will be the least bit interested in the rational or moral correctness of your remarks. They will only be interested in the threat your ideas pose to their ascendency, and they will do everything they can to destroy or sideline you.
The whites who have power to make changes you desire will also wish to destroy or sideline you, since they will see you as someone who could cause them problems with minority power groups.
Please follow broswer’s advice.
And don’t be fooled by pleasant remarks anyone makes in the boardroom in response to your own remarks! (“Don’t you mind people grinnin’ in your face,” as the wonderful bluesman Son House sang!)
You’re not involved in a struggle of principle (of “what is right,” as you put it, or what is wrong), you’re involved in a struggle for power.
Exactly! As Mr.Dumpty says, this is a struggle for power. He has hit it on the head.
It is not about principle, it is about POWER and who shall have it. In the most basic terms, that’s what it all comes down to. Life is a struggle for power.
Human beings, ostensibly civilized ones, find all sorts of elaborate excuses to rationalize their motives and make them seem noble. But ultimately, we seek power.
Although the racial issue is cunningly garbed in all the trappings of morality, righteousness and justice, what it ultimately boils down to is “who shall have POWER”. It’s about gaining that power in any way possible. And about taking away power from those who have it —- again, in any way possible. Let the king of the hill beware and never sleep! There are always those seeking to depose him.
This Darwinian jostling is about gaining personal and racial advantage over others, for one’s self and for one’s own. Naturally, it’s preferable to make it look like an issue of lofty morality that can be worked out by rational debate. But seen in purely Darwinian terms, it’s about who shall rule and own this earth, and who shall BE ruled and BE owned.
Put even more bluntly: not everything in life is a win-win situation. Sometimes there are losers. The question then becomes, WHO shall win and who shall lose? That pork chop or drumstick that is going to be very good for you and your family, is NOT going to be good for the pig or the chicken. Do you first engage the pig or the chicken in a debate about justice and morality?…. or do you disregard their objections and just go ahead and do WHAT IS GOOD FOR YOU?
