Hidden Colors 2: Hidden History Of African Greatness

World Star Hip Hop, July 3, 2012

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  • This history was so hidden that historians didn’t even know about it.

    I only wish our master race blacks would go back to Africa and show us how it’s all done.

  • dukem1

    Oh.  Ok…I’ll see your pile of rocks and raise you…ahhh…one light bulb.

    • Sheila Dinehart

      that is clever

    • Zimbabwe proved they didnt like light bulbs they prefer torches and mud huts.

      • IstvanIN

        Actually they prefer lean-tos and starvation.

      • wtf does that mean????????????????????????????

    • SKUMMIEDUW86

      I’ll see your lightbulb and raise you one OPEN HEART SURGERY

      •  surgery is not difficult, why uneducated, untrained  africans do it everyday when they extract organs for their muti and voodoo rituals

        • SKUMMIEDUW86

          SURGERY IS NOT DIFFICULT…LMAOOOOOOOOO…..I guess thats why surgeons go through 8-10 years of school because it isn’t difficult. Dude you’re not even worth my time. That comment was literally RETARDED…lmaoooo…funny

      • dukem1

        Well I guess I’m all in with…Louis Pasteur!

      • Up to my neck in CA

        You know the Doctor was White…right?
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christiaan_Barnard

        • 1proactive2

          I think the SKUMM poster was referring to a black “surgeon” in the Congo using a machete while the guy was alive and being held down.  Alas, the patient didn’t survive. 

        • Bantu Education

          Yes but everyone now knows that Chris Barnard would never have performed a heart transplant and gained international fame and wealth he did without his “gifted” black assistant Hamilton Naki.   I for one know this must be true because when weepy white liberals invented….er, discovered Naki, they rushed out to honour him with a film “Hidden Heart”.    

          http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(09)61579-8/fulltext

          “Sadly” it appears that in reality Naki actually took no part in the famous transplant after all.   However only white racists would ever be so mean as to mention such an awkward fact, so  Naki’s new-found fame will live on in the impressive record of black achieveMUNT. 

          “A controversy arose after his death in that at least five periodicals and the Associated Press retracted statements in their obituaries of Naki that claimed that he participated in the world’s first human-to-human heart transplantation in 1967”  (from Wikipedia)

        • No he wasn’t two different doctors two different surgeries two different accomplishments
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Hale_Williams

  • Sheila Dinehart

    The jungles in African came after the white man…uh, I don’t think that is correct…but it is amusing.

  • The history of the Human Race is constant progression, the history of the black race is regression, but now the progression of the  Human Race has slowed because we are now carrying the weight of the black race. Taking the african out of africa is by far the biggest mistake ever committed by man

    • holyflower

      “…the progression of the  Human Race has slowed because we are now carrying the weight of the black race.”
      Slowed?  Reversed is the better descriptor:

      CORRELATIONS OF FERTILITY WITH IQ AND EDUCATION IN THE USA, 2004White Women and IQ = – .162; White Women and Education = – .209White Men and IQ      = – .089;  White Men and Education      = – .087Black Women and IQ  = – .271; Black Women and Education = – .359Black Men and IQ       = – .049; Black Men and Education       = – .092 Total and IQ = – .166; Total and Education = – .186Correlations are higher for women than for men, and for blacks than whites.SOURCE: data from National Longitudinal Study of Youth, Gerhard Meisenberg, 2010We are PRO-gressing.  We are RE-gressing.

      • SKUMMIEDUW86

        Holyflower you’re clearly trying to intellectualize racism. AFRICAN IMMIGRANTS have the highest IQ’s of any other foreign exchange students that come to america to study. Emmanuel Ohuabunwa just broke the GPA record studying neuroscience at Johns Hopkins university. He has also been inducted into Phi Beta Kappa Society, a prestigious honour group that features membership of 17 US Presidents, 37 US Supreme Court Justices, and 136 Nobel Prize winners.http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/T9NPHMC6O0BB0I644

        • holyflower

          SKUMMIED:  “AFRICAN IMMIGRANTS have the highest IQ’s of any other foreign exchange students that come to america to study.”

          That is a statement you cannot support, Mr. S., with a link to a reliable source.  Bravo to the Johns Hopkins student, however.   And I was wrong to imply that the regression in genotypic intelligence is due solely to “carrying the weight of the black race.”  Emancipation of women — leading to the brightest women having the fewest kids — the welfare state and dysgenic immigration into the western countries are all three major factors.

        • If you google the name Emmanuel Ohuabunwa what you get is a list of links to Afro-centric websites making the same claim.

          I don’t see any primary, original source material that verifies these claims. This has all the earmarks of a self-perpetuating internet rumor.

          I’m willing to believe it’s true but please give me an original, verifiable, credible source for these claims.

          • SKUMMIEDUW86

            Well judging by the comments, I would say this is a EUROCENTRIST website. You little hillbillies with your colorful use of the English language, your small time boxed in views. You’re claiming to be educated but every time any of you type anything its clear that you never left KANSAS…LOL

          • You must mean an original verifiable source like “amren.com” I mean it doesn’t get any more fair and impartial than “amren.com” right?….lmao

          • Comon-scense

            You will never accept it because your looking for what you call credited sources. To you that mean white dominated sources, “if the white man say it its fact “, if the black man says it, that’s just Afro-centric. You just pulled a race card and then you say you won’t to believe it if your race credited it. Your either unaware of how you’ve been taught white supremacist or your a sarcastic prick Dummies use Google for research. there’s thousands of books from the early 1800 and 1900s that teaches and not guide you to what the ruling few want you to know!!!

        • shawnmer

          Oh lawdy, why do otherwise intelligent people so quickly pretend to be uable to grasp the concept of an AVERAGE?  If the subject is IQs, immediately the liberal siezes on either an anecdote or a group that is unrepresentative of the average. 
           
          Even if his claim about this student is correct, this doesn’t refute data on AVERAGE IQ’s.  International students in US universities tend to be among the most talented and intelligent students their natons have to offer.  They’re the self-selected cream of the crop, and can no more be taken to be representative of the norm than a white Cum Laude graduate at MIT can be said to be representative of all whites. 
           
          This isn’t complicated. 

        • Athling

          Firstly, we should always note that the exception does not make the rule.

          To answer questions about who are the most or least intelligent people on the planet we can make certain observations. Assuming a normally healthy individual, there are two primary factors involved in a person’s IQ level;

          1) human effort — long hours of study, rote memorization, and so on.
          2) genetic capacity — brain function, neurotransmission of electrochemical messages, and other heritable genetic traits.

          One’s genetic capacity is the limiting factor of human effort. You can be no more intelligent than your genes will allow.

          How much of intelligence is due to human effort and is there any way to measure a person’s genetic capacity for intelligence?

          We are still on the frontier of genetic research with much to be learned. Various genetic factors involved in human intelligence have been isolated but a direct measure of genetic capacity is currently beyond our reach. We’re not there yet.

          What we can do is give IQ tests to large numbers of people and observe any patterns that develop. Using a very large sample space is important and helps as a control on human effort. That is, those individuals in a particular group who have used a large amount of human effort in intelligence attainment are counterbalanced by those who have not. They tend to cancel each other out. What we are left with then is a measure of genetic capacity with observable patterns between the different races of people.

          To get an accurate picture of genetic capacity for intelligence you must isolate human effort. This is important because an African putting forth a supreme human effort in learning will be more intelligent than an Ashkenazi Jew who has put forth little effort. However, if both put forth their best efforts then genetic capacity comes into play as the limiting factor. The Ashkenazi Jew having the greater genetic capacity for intelligence should be the more intelligent.

          What we find from testing is that Ashkenazi Jews are at the top of the IQ spectrum followed by East Asians then Caucasians and so on with Africans and Aborigines at the very bottom.

          IQ testing isn’t perfect and it can be difficult to isolate the amount of human effort involved as opposed to genetic capacity for learning. Any scientific tool we use should validate what we actually see in the natural world. This is not always the case with IQ testing.

          In fact, I would place Caucasians at the top of the list as the most intelligent race of people. East Asians by and large place a greater emphasis on learning and have a culture more conducive to that end than Caucasians. I believe that they typically use more human effort in intelligence attainment but that Caucasians have the greater genetic capacity for intelligence. I believe history bears this out. We have direct observation at our disposal.

          East Asians didn’t put a man on the moon, possibly the greatest feat of human engineering of all time. They never invented the automobile or the airplane. They didn’t invent electricity and nearly everything that runs on it. No, they seem to specialize in adapting what Caucasians have already invented.

          The most profound discoveries and applications of science have been made almost exclusively by Caucasians.

          With regard to Africans the evidence is quite clear concerning their levels of intelligence. The following quotes sum it up quite accurately:

          “It will be seen that when we classify mankind by color, the only one of the primary races, given by this classification,which has not made a creative contribution to any one of our twenty-one civilizations is the Black Race.” – Dr. Arnold Toynbee, The Study of History, Vol. I, page 233.

          “I am apt to suspect the Negroes to be naturally inferior to the Whites. There scarcely ever was a civilization of their complexion, nor even any individual, eminent either in action or speculation.” – David Hume, English philosopher, in his book, Essays, Moral and Political, Vol.II

          “In most if not all of the newly independent Black nations of Africa, little if anything during the past 5000 or more years can be pointed to as having made a contribution that in anyway enhances the life of man.” – Walter Arnold, The Evolution of Man in Relation to That of the Earth, Part V, The Mankind Quarterly, Vol. X, No.2 (Oct-Dec 1969) p. 78.

          “As a social anthropologist, I naturally accept and even stress the fact that there are major differences, both mental and psychological, which separate the different races of mankind. Indeed, I would be inclined to suggest that however great may be the physical differences between such races as the European and the Negro, the mental and psychological differences are greater still.” – L.S. B. Leakey, in The Progress And Evolution Of Man In Africa ( Oxford University Press ), 1961.

          • Wow you’re really trying to base racism on research and study…lol. Athling just because you studied at the ARYAN ACADEMY OF REDKNECKS AND NEO NAZIS doesn’t make your assertions true buddy. 

            Please don’t spout this kind of rhetoric in public, someone might have you committed to an asylum. You literally must be mentally challenged to believe any of the nonsense you wrote…LMAO…wow

          • withpower

             So… debunk it.

          •  We’ve got to stop meeting like this.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L886mjb0O8

          • John

            And your refutation to his analysis is to call him names.

            Very advanced of you. It’s easy to see now how your people built the pyramids, and then forgot everything they knew once they met white people.

    • dhs

      I agree with the last point of leaving Africans in Africa.  The comments about progress are inaccurate. Africans did progress greatly in their adaption to the African environment. They are the only hominids that can survive in the hot, humid, sun blasted conditions that prevail in most of sub Saharan Africa.  Africans  have the behavioral adaptions  necessary for African survival: quick responses to take advantage of immediate opportunities,  and the lack of  unneeded prefrontal  brain tissue, which is good only for long range planning.   Blacks also have immunity to many of the hideous tropical diseases, that destroy non-Africans.

      Modern technology allows non-Africans to survive in Africa, but up to fairly recently most of Africa was uninhabitable by non-Africans.

    •  Thread winner!

  • mikejones91

    Guys/Gals–This is a comment I read on WSHH–I gave her my (random/sporadic) two cents–Lets show this girl how ignorant she REALLY is and give her a reply. A true White Man/Woman reply. Here is the comment

     Light skin vs. Dark skin, Long hair vs. short hair, rich vs. poor, “strong black woman” is also part of Willie Lynch, they wanted to reverse the roles of the black household. White people are quite clever but NOT as clever as black people that’s why they are threatened. Asians learned from our mistakes that’s why white hate them so much as well. Black people WE ARE naturally smart and it’s instilled in us to sticktogether. Egypt was the and IS the LONGEST lasting civilization in thehistory of mankind. WE NEED TO GET IT TOGETHER, it’s in our BLOOD to be world leaders. 

  • I didn’t know Africans invented everything from peanut butter to nuclear submarines. It’s amazing what you learn.

    Usually people with low self esteem like blacks have to over compensate by making outlandish claims to bolster their own self worth.

    It would be funny if it wasn’t so tragic. 

  • IF blacks are so intelligent then why do ALL of them need “smart” phones?

  • The only thing that has ever come out of Africa is the technological development of the spear.

    After that, 10.000 years of nothing.

    • SKUMMIEDUW86

      The only things that ever came out of Europe was smallpox, tuberculosis, and the bubonic plague. Oh yeah and most there inventions is the cause of current Global Warming and pollution.

      • I’ll bet the negative impact of our inventions sure hasn’t stopped you from using them.

      • The__Bobster

        Are you going to stop driving your hooptie, Jamal Jr.?

        • SKUMMIEDUW86

          Umm….yeah sure I’ll stop driving my hooptie as soon as you stop having sexual relations with your mother 🙁 Thats naaaasty billy bob redkneck…lmao

      • Orion_Blue

        Could be worse … look what came out of Africa …

      • ViktorNN

        Let’s see you give up use of every creation invented by white Europeans and European Americans. Go on, we dare ya.

      • mikejones91

        Is the world not better because of these inventions? Be gone. Your probably white too, which makes it worse. 

  • Biff_Maliboo

    Stop! Stop!

    My sides hurt…

  • ed91

    these people seem just smart enough to be stupid.

    the other half of the sorrowful problem is that there are so many stupid whites that don’t know how obsessed and hateful blacks are towards whites.

  • Biff_Maliboo

    I hope this doesn’t mean that WSHH has gone “highbrow” on us. 

  • alltoohuman

    The world’s first history documentary that doesn’t actually have any historians in it.

  • If they believed any of this, they would demand segregation.

    Africans in America sure do enjoy the fruits of white supremacy.

    • ViktorNN

      You’ve cut to the heart of it. If blacks were superior overall – or even superior in a few ways other than banging on drums or running fast – they wouldn’t want anything to do with whites.

      They’re dependent on us, and probably always will be. 

  • IstvanIN

    You have to wonder how much of this they believe.

    • zimriel

      I went over there; posted some observations of mine own. Some of the locals *want* to believe it. Some of them seem to realise they’ve been trolled hard.

  • Biff_Maliboo

    Yeah, but what have you done for us lately?

  • 1proactive2

    Blacks didn’t even have 2 story structures until the white man came to subsaharan Africa.  I wonder what delusion they’ll come up with to explain the years barren of black achievement after they built the pyramids.  Also notice how they already have an excuse in their show that blames white people for their later history of chronic dependency and failure.  That’s a “must have” bit of creative excuse-making.  

    Following their scholarship, I suppose Ramses, the ancient Egyptian pharaoh, had the last name of Roosevelt, Jones, or Washington.  Stay tuned on that until their movie comes out. 

    Blacks today, those that attempt to pass as scholars, know they’ll have a very uneducated and thus mindless black following that will accept these fantasies.  The tragic comedy continues. 

  • alastairabbacle
  • tickyul

    Oh yes, and the flying pyramids……..don’t forget about the flying pyramids!!!

  • And you wonder why there were laws against giving literacy lessons to blacks in the antebellum South or near-South (including Missouri).

    Because, as Samuel Johnson said, a little learning is a dangerous thing.

    • 1proactive2

      But black people think “literacy” is a now dead white homosexual piano player who dressed like them.  You know, the one who played Vegas with big candle holder sitting just above the keys. 

      •  If my memory serves, you’re the Wayne State alum who told us that black Wayne State students couldn’t write a 250-word essay even after four years of college.

        • 1proactive2

          You are correct, my friend.  Because of their inability to write a simple essay, a group of black students brought suit claiming, what else, “racism”.  They lost.

          Wayne State University in Detroit had the single and final requirement for an undergrad degree, and that was all students, regardless of major, had to write a simple essay with an introduction, body, and conclusion.  An enormous single spaced list of topics was given to us, an entire page of them.  As well, the time to write the essay was ridiculously long. 

          I’ve lived in the inner cities of Detroit and Pontiac, and know full well the black tribal mentality to include their penchant for immediate gratification, violence, blaming, and crime.  As a clinical psychologist with a career focus on foresnic psychology, I have yet to find a flaw in Amren’s research and amazingly enlightening articles.  And most posters are also very well informed. I’ve learned a lot here.        

          • IstvanIN

             Now explain this, Mr. Shrink, why have our politicians, not to mention so many of our regular fellow citizens, decided that allowing our nation to be destroyed by diversity?  Surely condemning one’s children and grandchildren to a living hell must have some explanation?  Or are the majority of white people insane?  I would love to know why before I shuffle off to the next world.

          • 1proactive2

            Because the largest number of adult-children who yell, demand, complain, and cry the loudest will get the spoils in our corrupt system.  Actually, they’ll get just about anything they want. Every politician wanting a second term in office knows this as does the standard public university professor who is working toward tenure.

            Because of free-flowing handouts, (excuse me, “entitlements”) we have a now infantalized majority of voters who expect to be parented, to be taken care of from cradle to grave. 

          • HenryHolliday

            Hear, hear!      BTW…Happy Fourth, AmRenners!

        • HenryHolliday

          I don’t think that would make it unique amongst TBC’s.

        • Pure comedy gold!

    • Sadly, what’s been lost in the whole thing is how nice blacks can be when they know their limits and place in life.  Southern Blacks were happy because there was no stress to perform what they could not perform.

      • HenryHolliday

        Hey Stephanie what state are you from?

        • SKUMMIEDUW86

          Stephanie is from pedophile valley, she is product of a brother sister relationship and she is now pregnant with her daddy’s child. 

  • ageofknowledge

    Lol… they just make it up as they revise history to comport to their ideology.

    • SKUMMIEDUW86

      You mean like europeans?

  •  This “documentary” touches on blacks and whites (supposedly) doing and selling drugs at equal rates.

    Even if you want to believe that, and I happen to think that it’s the result of the same kind of flawed methodology which leads to the conclusion that Barack Obama is a spendthrift, there’s a reason why so many more blacks are in prison.  Black drug slinging and usage is animated with a lot more violence than the same for whites, and official convictions for crimes are usually deceptive because of plea deals.  Someone could go to prison for along time for a “drug crime,” but it’s hard to find out what charges were dropped during the plea bargaining.

  • Bob

    i almost died of laughter
    i wonder if they think people take these lies seriously?
    just look at an egyptian hieroglyph on papyrus
    why would they go through all the trouble to separate the black tan and white people?
    oh yea it’s because they wanted the difference to stand out to the reader

  • MekongDelta69
    • HenryHolliday

      Thanks Delta.

      And welcome home, Brother.

      • MekongDelta69

        (Just saw this)

        Back at ya brother. Who were you with?

        • HenryHolliday

          75th Rangers 70-71

          • MekongDelta69

            Rangers lead the way…

            Except for us! (j/k)
            S.T. 2 – 8th Plt. Det. Alpha (’68 – ’74)

    • The__Bobster

      So that’s where the Brinkster link went. Thanks.

      • MekongDelta69

        Yeah – Brinkster turned into some kind of Server In The Sky, so I had to hunt down the new location.

  • I heard Africans never developed a written language. Spoken language yes, but for their written language they had to depend on Arabic or Latin script.

    • eduard

       They also did not have numerals in their language.  They could not count, they only knew : maningi! – many.  They also did not have certain words like love and compassion in their language. To actually understand the third world mentality, you should read the writings of the Zulu Credo Mutwa. These  books are available at amazon.com.

  • So blacks were industrious for thousands of years and then all of the sudden became lazy? They built stonehenge and the pyramids, back-breaking work, but now they can’t do construction jobs without CONSTANT supervision and carrot-and-stick tactics? Blacks were geniuses for thousands of years but only now they can’t pass the required federal test for high school graduation? What happened?

    • Vil

      You know what happened. It´s Whitey´s fault, as always. We also stole their ability to fly and their telekinetic powers.

      This is the truth about the noble blacks:

      “Since the dawn of history the negro has owned the continent of Africa – rich beyond the dream
      of poet’s fancy, crunching acres of diamonds beneath his bare black
      feet. Yet he never picked one up from the dust until a white man showed
      to him its glittering light. His land swarmed with powerful and docile
      animals, yet he never dreamed a harness, cart, or sled. A hunter by
      necessity, he never made an axe, spear, or arrowhead worth preserving
      beyond the moment of its use. He lived as an ox, content to graze for an
      hour. In a land of stone and timber he never sawed a foot of lumber,
      carved a block, or built a house save of broken sticks and mud. With
      league on league of ocean strand and miles of inland seas, for four
      thousand years he watched their surface
      ripple under the wind, heard the thunder of the surf on his beach, the
      howl of the storm over his head, gazed on the dim blue horizon calling
      him to worlds that lie beyond, and yet he never dreamed a sail.”—
      Charles Darwin

    • SKUMMIEDUW86

      Vanessa you’re clearly stupid. First of all BLACKS built this whole fucking COUNTRY. Whites people didn’t even develop basic labor skills until AFTER slavery was abolished in this country. Thats why they formed UNIONS to keep JOBS away from black because WE HAD ALL THE SKILLS or don’t you remember the 400 years of slavery?smh Secondly, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT EGYPT WAS THE MOST DOMINANT EMPIRE EVER DOMINANT FOR 5,000 enslaved jews and europeans for 950 years. Egypt is the MOST STUDIED CIVILIZATION TO DATE THEY HAVE EGYPTOLOGY IN COLLEGE NOT EUROPOLOGY  NOT ASIANOLOGY ONLY EGYPTOLOGY. So what other civilization has a COLLEGE COURSE dedicated to them. Oh yeah and how did you become so well-versed in African history because they don’t teach much of it in America. Have you been there I doubt it? You’re just running your mouth like a bumbling fool

      • IstvanIN

        The Egyptians were not Negroes.  Sorry.

    • SKUMMIEDUW86

      You’re claiming that blacks need constant supervision. You must be from one of those hillbilly trailor parks or something. American is not even THE HIGHEST STANDARD OF EDUCATION, so even if blacks couldn’t pass THE FEDERALLY REQUIRED TEST (which is bullshit because every single black person I know is college educated) that wouldn’t say much BECAUSE AMERICA IS NOT EVEN TOP 10 IN MATH, SCIENCE OR TECHNOLOGY…LMAOOO…IDIOT smh

      • IstvanIN

        I have interviewed many recent black college graduates for jobs.  Not only do they graduate at the bottom of their class, for the most part they major in fluff that they do not do well in.

    • That’s because the white man stole black culture, fool!

      Really, I don’t know how you can steal culture. You can borrow and incorporate ideas but you can’t steal it so the original creator can no longer use it.

      The odd thing is that while whites can allegedly steal black culture, blacks can’t seem to make white cultural achievements work for them.

  • HenryHolliday

    All by himself?  Is it made out of peanuts? 

  • ncpride

    Nobody believes these ridiculous claims, however I just heard on the news that there have been 15 more shootings in Chicago just since 5 pm yesterday. Now those are claims we can believe in!

  • SKUMMIEDUW86

    Its funny how you whites try to talk bad about Africa in one breath and then take credit for their civilizations in the next. Nice try nettle TOO BAD THERE WASN’T ANY SUNBLOCK BACK THEN. I have a hard time picturing white people not developing MELANOMA and second degree burns attempting to survive on a continent the closest to the equator!!!…lmao…You’re stupid No Egyptian or African as ever been anything but Black light-skinned, brown-skinned or dark skinned but STILL AFRICAN…sorry nice try though. We were building Pyramids and circumnavigating the Earth and you guys were trying to come out of the DARK AGES

    • IstvanIN

      And then you all become stupid and stopped developing?  All of a sudden?  Just like that!  Amazing.

    • nettle

      Nothing like delusions and stealing from dead people to pass the day and to feel good about themselves.  How about blacks of TODAY get off welfare, AA and go invent/build something without any help from white brain power?  After all blacks are given unlimited free access to the top schools, government jobs (even got into the White House), and massive welfare in this country.  Remember, blacks are supposed to be smarter than whites and Asians!  Reality check, blacks everywhere are living on handouts given primarily by whites.

      • SKUMMIEDUW86

        Nettle you’re the one thats delusional. Once again, MORE WHITE PEOPLE ARE ON WELFARE THAN BLACKS, PLEASE DISPUTE THAT, BECAUSE THAT WAS JUST ON CNN, FOX, AND NBC. Whites are actually living primarily off the free labor of generations of blacks. Black people built the country that you call your home, fathered the disciplines that you study (or that you should study). You owe plenty to blacks its just said that the racist propaganda has you mentally sick.

      • Up to my neck in CA

        Affirmative Action goes against what MLK preached, Judging them on their skin color, not the content of their character.

    • The__Bobster

      Look up “Berber”, fool. Make that “fool and a half”.

    • HenryHolliday

      No you weren’t. You were living in mud and straw hut, just like you are now, and trying not to fall too far down the food chain. the Egyptians weren’t black. You wish they were, but they weren’t, and you know it. You really can’t point to any real accomplishments  for your race, can you?  You can only dwell in your pathetic fantasy world.

      • Henry, you’re out of your mind. The geographic location of Mali inhabited by the Dogan tribes are widely known to be descendants of Egyptians. They’re literally only 500 miles away from ancient Egypt and they still possess most of the Egyptian culture, language, and artifacts. 

        Guess what Henry? They’re pretty black, matter of fact they are blue black. Currently, the structures built in ANCIENT AFRICA cannot even be mimicked by MODERN masons, stone cutters, or structural engineers. 

        I think you know the truth Henry its not big deal buddy we all know that European arrogance has always been your downfall. You guys honestly believe that you’re superior but the ENTIRE WORLD knows that you’re not. You hate that don’t you Henry? 

        You hate that the African genotype is so strong that if crossbred with European genes they completely wipe out your genetic imprint. You’re mad that even with all the resource pillaging, raping, war waging, enslavement, and delusions of grandeur, whites are still a global minority. The european gene is literally in DANGER OF EXTINCTION. 

        If you guys don’t believe that just call up “David Duke” I’m pretty sure he’ll give you all of the “ORIGNAL, VERIFIABLE, EMPIRICAL, UNADULTERATED, BLAH BLAH information you need. lmao..On another note you guys are like entertaining. lmao

        •  There you go again, forgetting the musical accompaniment.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnzHtm1jhL4

        • HenryHolliday

          Hey this is America and the internet. You have every right to be delusional. Why don’t you give us a link showing  photos of the enviable accomplishments of the magnificent Dogan tribe. You can skip the artifacts….just tell me what they’ve done lately.Say in the last millenium or so. You know what I mean.

    • mikejones91

      Arabic and Sub Saharan are completely different. Yes, we were in the dark ages while the Arabs (NOT blacks) built pyramids. But look how the table turned. The black is in the dark age/ha been/ and the white man/asian man is prospering. Your African friends NEED western aid to survive. In Angola, the average life span is 38. They don’t get much from the white man/woman. Your friends need us.  

    •  Trayvon, please! Your people can’t even kill each other efficiently without using the white man’s firearms. Or are you going to claim that Mikhail Kalashnikov, Samuel colt, and John Browning were all black?

      • 1proactive2

        At the rate SKUMM is going, he or she will.

      • Firearms and black powder weapons in general were invented by Asians. Everyone knows that, the guys you’re speaking about weren’t INVENTORS they were INNOVATORS. I believe there is a difference Clyde B. Redkneck

    • 1proactive2

      Right.  And Colonel Sanders was really a black man.  Yeah.  For sure. 

    • Well how about you and all of your superior Black friends “circumnavigate” your way back to that “paradise” called Africa and live in your incredible pyramids, and I’ll stay behind in my air-conditioned house?

      • You won’t need air-condition in Iceland, Poland, Czeck Republic etc etc…lmao

  • SKUMMIEDUW86

    The african man was the first to circumnavigate the earth. When the Islamic-Moorish explorers discovered came further into Europe after conquering Spain, they brought Europe out of the Dark Ages. Europeans hadn’t even developed simple concepts of raised sidewalks, street lamps, medicine, universities, religion, alchemy, or mathematics. The cavemen europeans were plagued by disease because they hadn’t yet developed corrals to separate their men from their livestock. Don’t be fooled by these Europeans, the only reason they were more vicious as warriors because they come from an unforgiving terrain where the concept of FARMING AND AGRICULTURE WAS FOREIGN. European cavemen always had to hunt, slaughter and raid just to survive. Africa was and still is the wealthiest continent and THE ONLY continent that can survive INDEPENDENT of any IMPORTS. Nice try though cavemen…lmao

    • IstvanIN

      Africa is the only continent where the people can survive without imports (not true) AFTER a huge die off of its excess “human” population becuase the current population is supported by huge imports of food and medical aid from the west.

      Oh, and by the way, the Moors were not black as in Negro.  They were not sub-Saharans Africans. 

      Believe your fanatasies if they make you feel better, I bet you know the truth.

  • ed91

     sure darky, whatever you think………..

    ps-  that phone you’re using, electricity, etc etc etc etc

  • Lion King

    The letter “J” appeared only in Late Latin. Therefore, Julius Caesar was Iulius Caesare
    in Classical Latin, just like Jupiter was Iupiter.

  • BUT BUT BUT, the black man invented the COMB! Where would western civilization be without the COMB?
     
    http://www.snopes.com/business/origins/blackinv.asp
     
    There used to be a website that debunked black invention myths but it seems to have been disabled. It appears in the google search but the link is now invalid:
     
    www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/inventions/
     
    As with most black invention myths, there may be a grain of fact, such as claiming a black man invented the automatic traffic light (which he didn’t. A black man invented a hand cranked traffic device but others had already been invented. It was nothing new or revolutionary. It was merely an invention that had already been invented).

    •  where would we be w/o the comb? w/o the comb there would be no nuclear reactors, there would be no space program, there would be no books.  you need to educate yourself

  • IstvanIN

    Yes, and you better enjoy what is left of our reign, because when you folks take over the world becomes one giant Zimbabwe, or Detroit, if you prefer.  LOL.

  • IstvanIN

    “casted” away their albino babies?  Well, you certianly are edumukated.

  • Bill_der_Berg

    It’s a privilege to have one’s perceptions challenged by the  ground-breaking findings of these black historians.  This is history at its most vibrant.   

    But why are the revisionist accounts being ignored by the mainstream media.  There can be only one explanation  –  white racism.

  • zimriel

     Naw, just they they didn’t get far enough away.

  • For some reason, this thread has really been a magnet for black supremacist trolls.  Does anyone know if this AR thread was linked to on one of their kook-moron-NBPP-NOI websites?

    • HenryHolliday

      They’re all over the blogosphere. We’re seeing infiltrators/disruptors at our Tea Party
      meetings the last couple of weeks. They are asked to leave politely, once. Then the gloves come right off.No Mercy. Stomp their guts out and then ban them. Treat them like we get treated at HuffPo.

      • The Top Floor really doesn’t want the moderators to blacklist people except in severe circumstances.  Sometimes, trolls can be entertaining.

        •  As someone who has been banded multiple times from multiple sites, I don’t believe anyone should be banded unless they are deliberately offensive, abusive, or off message.

          This guys arguments are largely hot air and wishful thinking. His ‘facts and figures’ are easily refuted with minimum effort.

          As I always say, we need to know what theses people are saying and how they think so we can be ready to debate them. This is sometimes impossible because they can go wildly off topic in a flash citing erroneous and spurious claims. However, we need to be prepared for such people and respond with reason and facts.

          If we can’t debate them here on our terms, if we can’t refute their inane ‘facts’, do we really have answers to counter their ridiculous claims?

          Unless they become disruptive, I say let them stay.

          I love a good debate even if it’s easy to win.    


          • As someone who has been banded multiple times from multiple sites, I don’t believe anyone should be banded unless they are deliberately offensive, abusive, or off message.

            We agree.  AR’s Home Office doesn’t have that many large rubber bands.

            All kidding aside, The Top Floor agrees with you.

          •  

             

            Sir:

            Anyone who reads my posts knows I am spelling challenged and
            have difficulties with homophones, homonyms, and cinnamons.

            That you have chosen to publicly highlight my failings hurts
            me deeply and has left me an emotional wreck; a state from which I fear I may
            never fully recover.

            When I find the appropriate agency, I will be filing a
            grievance with said agency to restore my dignity through a large, open-ended, financial
            settlement. I shall also ask that you and everyone on your staff attend sensitivity
            training classes.

            Good day.

            sbn

            PS: You have my permission to correct my posts for errors.

             

          • sbuffalonative:

            Well, it has some formatting errors, but I figure we’re already in too deep.  AR’s tort lawyer on retainer advised me not to correct the formatting gremlins, before the civil punishment jumps from sensitivity training to a DHS reedumacation camp.  Where my/our punishment will be watching videos of Nancy Pelosi and Janet Napolitano until two days before I would say Kingdom Come, but that’s un-PC, so I’ll have to say the return of Farrakhan’s orbiting spaceships.

  • IstvanIN

    Blacks don’t have the brains to survive a harsh climate like the Sami.  Takes brains and planning, not just running around naked catching a monkey here and there to eat.

    • It doesn’t take much to destroy a planet thte way you IDIOTS did, does it?

  • The oldest negroid skeleton ever found was only 11,000 years old; we don’t know what the first humans looked like. For all we know they were covered head to toe in hair. Everything is just speculation based on what small amount of bones have been found.

  • Sarge

    At one time, operating under the mistaken notion that widespread dissemination of rubbish would lead to its being ridiculed widely, I would have been pleased to learn that a whole lot of people had heard these sorts of “African greatness” fantasies.

    I was underestimating the corrupt mind’s capacity for garbage. Now I realize that, where race is concerned, people will gobble down heaping helpings of the most lunatic notions and then beg for more.

     

     

  • “These blacks are such natural creative storytellers and actors.”

     this is because blacks are sociopath by nature, lies flow over their lips like water over a fall

  • blindsticks

    #The History Place – Points of View: Not Out of Africa by Mary …At The History Place – Excerpts from her book which has sparked widespread debate over the teaching of revisionist history in schools and colleges.www.historyplace.com/pointsofview/not-​out.htm – Cached
    Before decipherment, scholars had been compelled to rely on Greek sources for their understanding of Egyptian history and civilization. Once they were able to read real Egyptian texts, and could disregard the fanciful interpretations of hieroglyphics that had been circulating since late antiquity, it became clear to them that the relation of Egyptian to Greek culture was less close than they had imagined. Egyptian belonged to the Afroasiatic language family, while Greek was an Indo-European language, akin to Sanskrit and European languages like Latin.

  • The black man has a grandiose sense of self and is a pathological liar, two traits of a sociopath, and so they extrapolate trivial accomplishments into the great and wonderous. Combine this with the low intelligence of the black man and and you get hysterical reasoning. blacks believe that since they are the oldest of races, then everything must have originated with them. If the ancient Greeks had Athens and the Acropolis and the Parthenon, and the Romans had the Coliseum and the aqueducts, then they must have copied the ancient africans who had magnificent empires where the magnificent cities had streets paved with gold and sanitation systems where water ran uphill and flowed through silver toilets, and the largest library ever constructed with more volumes that the library of congress. funny thing is, we can see the Parthenon,  we see the aqueducts, but would would be hard pressed to find any native artifacts in africa more than a couple hundred years old.
    A perfect example of the logic and reasoning power of the black man is  the ishango bone, aka the  “math bone”, a 25,000 yo bone with a pattern of notches carved into it. many blacks believe this proves that africans “invented” math, but then the whiteman came and stole the math, leaving africans without any math forever. The end

  • Bill_der_Berg

    … and they say that  know the name of the black man who built Stonehenge.  Unfortunately, they have got it wrong.   After, extensive research, I can reveal that he was called Shotavius.

  • The Blacks had no choice whether or not to become great story tellers because they were incapable of creating a written language.

  • Vil

    If you weren’t threatened by what you heard, you wouldn’t waste your time discussing the video.

    People are discussing this video because they cannot fathom the absurdity of those claims.

    Though I must admit that I am afraid, very, very afraid, that liberals are going to believe that nonsense and use those “historical facts” in debates…

  • Good lord, there is nothing worse than a black supremacist. At least a white supremacist has a case to argue. 

    Race realists aren’t supremacists, we actually want everyone to get along. We believe honest and productive conversation about race is the only way to make our society function. However, we are called racists and white supremacists and our ideas are ignored. So this conversation does not exist and everyone gets to believe whatever they want. I think that’s called “Anarchy” or at best “Tribalism.”

  • pcknott

    The video uses images of Olmec sculptures from Veracruz, Mexico, and Khmer sculptures from Cambodia.    You will come across these images regularly in the mad world of ‘Black Studies’.   Among living Olmec and Khmer people you can still see the very thick lips that have attracted the attention of Afrocentrists.   But no other features of these two nations bears any resemblance to the Negro race.  They don’t have the woolly hair, the prognathous jaw, the enlarged eyeball, or anything else.  There is simply no connection with Africa or the negro.

  • That’s funny, why are the palms of your hands and the bottom of your feet white? There’s no abrupt change in skin tone anywhere on my body, I’m just white all over.

    • mikejones91

      That really is an interesting point. What do you think on the matte? I’ve always wondered that.

    • I see abrupt changes in color all the time on white people. Usually if you smack a white person they turn red, punch them they turn black or blue, leave them in the sun they turn pink. I think thats a pretty abrupt change. Not to mention brown, black, red and pink moles. lol

  • “I wanna eat where the white folks eat,
    because I’m white on the bottom of my feet.”

  • slimcat1

    This is a better video. quite something.

    Simple building.

    Stonehenge Reloaded by only one white man …

    Sep 9, 2007 … http://www.facebook.com/MyClickShow

    http://www.myclickshow.com/

    Wally Wallington has demonstrated that he can lift a Stonehenge-sized …

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K7q20VzwVs

  • Jim

    Yes, open heart surgery was first performed by a black man. He performed it on a STABBING VICTIM ON CHICAGO’S SOUTH SIDE!!! That was over one hundred years ago…my, how things HAVEN’T changed.

    You think the Stonehenge thing is funny, how about this: America’s first president was black!!
    John Hanson was the president of the Congress under the Articles of Confederation. A (very) few scholars think that might have made him America’s first president. There’s some debate as to whether Hanson was Scandinavian or English, but the founding member of the New York Black Panthers says he was BLACK…and he’s even got a PHOTO of Hanson, taken before his death in 1793, to prove it!    Enjoy:

    http://www.itsabouttimebpp.com/Announcements/pdf/Cyril_Innis_Jr.pdf

  • loyalwhitebriton

    Gerald Massey (1828-1907) was from a humble background and started out in life as a straw-maker.
    As well as writing a bit of poetry, he flirted with Christian-socialism, Paganism, and Druidism. It was during these flirtations that he developed an interest in Egyptology, and became an amateur/self-taught Egyptologist, writing three books on the subject: ‘The Natural Genesis’, ‘Ancient Egypt: The Light of the World’, ‘A Book of Beginnings’.
    It was in A Book of Beginnings that Massey discusses the so-called Egyptian origin of the British Isles. In the book, Massey claims that Stonehenge was built by black architect MORIEN, from MOR or Moor, from the Kushite/African. 
    His evidence? Casual word associations, myths, fables, folk-tales, and a misunderstanding of the writings of Geoffrey of Monmouth (12th C English historian).

    What is also interesting is that None of Masseys’ writings on Egyptology are referenced in the Oxford Encyclopaedia of Ancient Egypt, or any other similar reference work relating to Egyptology.
    Massey is not a reliable source of information on Egyptology or British history.

  • SKUMMIEDUW86

    I notice how you said “PROBABLY”, because once again you’re trying to intellectualize racism. So, once again here is a white guy that blames Africans for EUROPEAN diseases but, I bet you’ll take credit for the great dominant civilization Egyptians built and claim they were white.

    TX1001 you’re only lying to yourself, no one else but yourself. Europeans were famous for bringing their diseases along with them during there travels. The same thing happened when they came to America they brought diseases that infected the Native Americans. 

    If you have anything to say about aids once again AFRICA existed for thousands of years without any trace of that disease until European invasion. The evidence is clear. Nice try though 

  •  Jesus was a Jew.  Jews and all surrounding tribes are caucasoid.  Not necessarily white, caucasoid.  But in those days the Levant was under Roman rule, and it has been suggested that Mary was impregnated by a Roman soldier.  The area had been conquered by Alexander the Great and had been under Greek rule for many years, retaken by resurgent Jews, then conquered by Romans.  So maybe Jesus was just caucasoid, maybe he was even white.

  • SKUMMIEDUW86

    I wasn’t referring to actual time periods it was a generalization stating that while AFRICANS were civilized EUROPEANS wasn’t. Civilization started in AFRICA and was taught to other nations BY AFRICA. 

    Vikings, Celts, Centurions, and Spartans etc etc were raiders, plunderers and pillagers. Any wealth or prosperity that europeans ever experienced came from thievery and warfare NOT FROM “brainpower”.  

    The viking and barbarian historians will tell you that the unforgiving terrain wouldn’t allow for farming and agriculture so they never had a need to learn it. The way the survived was by hunting, raiding, pillaging and war. Its really kind of obvious study YOUR OWN HISTORY before you challenge ours

  • SKUMMIEDUW86

    The AFRICAN was the first to circumnavigate the entire earth. Actually, when the Islamic-Moors pushed further into Europe after completely conquering Spain (between 8-15th century) they found the Europeans to be uncivilized cavemen. The Moors found that they had no raised sidewalks, street lamps, alchemy, science, mathematics, or schools. Islamic-Moors also noticed they were constantly plagued with disease because they had not yet developed corrals to separate their livestock from the people. 

    Europeans were literally brought out of the DARK AGES by AFRICANS. I challenge anyone to debunk what I’ve just stated. EVEN WHEN THE EARLY ENGLISH SETTLERS landed in America less than 10% of their original population could survive, this is more recent history.

     They couldn’t survive because they did NOT KNOW HOW TO LIVE OFF THE LAND. Europeans could not fish, farm, hunt, they only knew how to pillage, plunder, steal, and raid. Native Americans (who are also colored) had to teach them how to live off the land. Europeans owe their very EXISTENCE in AMERICA to NATIVE AMERICANS. Someone please tell me where are the NATIVE AMERICANS now? How did the EUROPEANS THANK THE NATIVE AMERICANS? The same way they thanked the Moors, Egyptians, East Indians, and Asians, they stole knowledge, and used it to rape, plunder, pillage and wage war.

    The european mindset continues to manifests itself throughout the world, when they’re extended a helping hand they feign humility suck resources and knowledge, and then wage war. Don’t worry about AFRICAN history WE KNOW OUR HISTORY, just focus on yours, your history is the story of THE LEECH OR TIC DIG IN AND SUCK THE LAND DRY OF ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING YOU CAN. 

    I still have no hatred in my heart towards white people, just stating facts THATS ALL.

  •  This is actually old stuff. Blacks have concocted the entire parallel history:
    http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Dobruja_Thrace_1.htm

    Summary- everything & everyone & everywhere is/was- Black.

    • Ni123

      I just learned that Rafael was a white supremacist. Amazing.

  • .

    John Smith

    One can’t support a large population, cities, etc without agriculture. And the Sami live in an arctic wasteland where crops won’t grow. That’s not the case for Africa.

  • TX1001

    One thing I’ve noticed about these Afrocentric types is that they have a very confused idea of timelines, to say the least. For instance, in one of his posts (now deleted, I think), he claimed that Europeans were still living in caves when the Moors conquered Spain. Now, the early Medieval period in Europe was dark and primitive for sure, but nobody was living in caves. The Moors conquered Spain in 711 AD and the Stone Age in Europe ended around 2000 BC, but he seems to think that all of this was happening at the same time. Very odd.

    • nobleman2305

      I would engage in a debate with you, but clearly the moderator is biased. Whoever that skummie  guy or whatever was actually making valid points. I’m a white man and I can see clearly that racist impolite remarks against blacks are accepted but if one of them fires back the moderator deletes it….lol

      • You don’t say, genius. We moderators are biased in favor of people that have our own worldview, and swing a heavier censorial baton against people from the other side than our own, ceteris paribus?

        Imagine if they ran countries like that. Oh, yeah. That’s right. They used to. Back in the days when they were actually nations, “nation” comes from the Latin nascere, to be born. IOW, a nation is a group of related people, not necessarily ephemeral lines in geography. But sometimes one and the same.

        And also….lol

        • nobleman2305

          “We welcome comments that add information or perspective, and we encourage polite debate.” 
          ^^^In that case the above statement isn’t true then. The site should say something more like “If you disagree with our members, audience, and supporters world  views your comments will be deleted and you will be banned.” 

          It doesn’t really make sense to feign journalistic, scholastic and informational integrity, while simultaneously censoring people with different views but valid points. If you have so much faith in the “GOLDEN MINDS” of your disciples then let the skin heads debate the afrocentrist. 

          Honestly, when I look at this site I see two sides of the same coin. Most world views are biased and rooted in hate, racism, misinformation, miseducation,  and superiority complexes. 

      • godzillabloggs

        I have been wondering about the accusation that  white people were responsible for creating the African jungles.   On balance, I think that the jungle was one of our beneficial inventions.  Just think of all those trees pumping out oxygen for people of all creeds and races to breathe – (not that ‘race’ is anything more than a social construct, of course).  

  • mikejones91

    Really what this is is a coping mechanism. A way to deal with the GROWING feelings of “inferiority”. Not to say they are inferior, cause I’m not. For every year that passes (after Obama was elected into the post racial America) they will come out with even crazier claims. I guess you can’t blame them, really, you can’t.

  • mikejones91

      k

  • nobleman2305

    I’ve traveled to Africa several times and as a white man I can tell you that they have areas that are in ruins but they also have advanced communities, cities, and towns just like anywhere else. Unfortunately in AMERICA,  all your media shows  is their worse. It would be the same if international media ONLY SHOWED the ghettos and trailor parks of AMERICA. 

    You guys should really get out there and travel. I can tell by most of your comments that most of maybe well read but you’ve never actual TRAVELED to the places that you’re commenting about. I’m not really here to argue but it is my belief that people world travel gives one a more WORDLY mindset and point of view.

    • Ni123
    • Ni123

       ” they also have advanced communities, cities, and towns just like anywhere else.”

      Of course they have. Courtesy of Britain, Italy, France, Belgium and Holland.

      • nobleman2305

        It is very misguided to take credit for African civilization, just like it is also misguided for other races to take full credit for European civilization. Every single civilization in existence has learned from various races, creeds, and ethnicities. 

        Africans, Indians, Hispanics, Polynesians, Europeans and Asians etc etc have ALL made contributions to the GLOBAL SOCIETY. If you think anything other than that you have  been miseducated by institutions who agenda, education and information are rooted in superiority complexes.  

        Africans shouldn’t take more credit than Europeans or vice versa, MANKIND is responsible for all of it. Whenever you separate yourself by tradition, religion, ethnicity, nationality, political or partial system it is a breeding ground for violence. One seeking to understand violence does not belong to any race, creed or color because he/she is concerned with mankind as a whole.

        •  Please name 3 ORIGINAL (not derivative)  contributions to human civilization made by sub-saharan africans

          • nobleman2305

            Africans are the fathers of a majority of scholastic disciplines that society is built on today. The original mathematics, alchemy, masonry, religion, and sciences were employed by african and asiatic peoples. The reason that this is true Jean is simply because the origins of the human  can be traced back to africa, yes even the origins of europeans. Us europeans are simply africans that migrated northward because of the harsh treatment by africans toward us, and of course the climate. Some of us were born through albino mutation and bred with other light skinned africans and the further north we migrated we eventually lost the ability to produce melanin. In ancient times whites were discriminated and enslaved much like blacks have been in more recent history. We were known as lepers because the sun burned our skin. We were enslaved for over 700 years. The image of entire populations such as Italy, France, and Spain were changed irrevocably due to the African bloodline. This is precisely why I don’t give blacks a pass when they play the race card are complain about injustices done to them by the white man. The balance of power, knowledge, wealth and discovery has always shifted to different hands, no ONE race, nationality, ethnicity, creed or color has wielded it indefinitely.

          •  First, you were white. Now- you aren’t. Strange.
            And, btw.- mathematics etc. in Africa is pure nonsense.

          • So true. When an elephant takes a dump, a white man only seeing a pile of elephant feces. A black man, however, will say “Hey, I can make a house out of this!” All is well in the black man’s world, until it rains out and his house becomes diarrhea. 

          •  This guy gets to vote, and it counts the same as yours or mine.

            I need a drink…

          • Ni123

             “Us europeans are simply africans that migrated northward because of the harsh treatment by africans toward us”

            Oh, I see you’re seriously misinformed.
            http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperInformation.aspx?paperID=19566

            http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2009746/Modern-mans-ancestor-Homo-erectus-extinct-108-000-years-earlier-previously-thought.html#ixzz1SmuAiGkF

        • Athling

          I hesitate to repeat myself on this but you seem seriously misinformed.

          Firstly, we should always note that the exception does not make the rule.

          To answer questions about who are the most or least intelligent people on the planet we can make certain observations. Assuming a normally healthy individual, there are two primary factors involved in a person’s IQ level;

          1) human effort — long hours of study, rote memorization, and so on.
          2) genetic capacity — brain function, neurotransmission of electrochemical messages, and other heritable genetic traits.

          One’s genetic capacity is the limiting factor of human effort. You can be no more intelligent than your genes will allow.

          How much of intelligence is due to human effort and is there any way to measure a person’s genetic capacity for intelligence?

          We are still on the frontier of genetic research with much to be learned. Various genetic factors involved in human intelligence have been isolated but a direct measure of genetic capacity is currently beyond our reach. We’re not there yet.

          What we can do is give IQ tests to large numbers of people and observe any patterns that develop. Using a very large sample space is important and helps as a control on human effort. That is, those individuals in a particular group who have used a large amount of human effort in intelligence attainment are counterbalanced by those who have not. They tend to cancel each other out. What we are left with then is a measure of genetic capacity with observable patterns between the different races of people.

          To get an accurate picture of genetic capacity for intelligence you must isolate human effort. This is important because an African putting forth a supreme human effort in learning will be more intelligent than an Ashkenazi Jew who has put forth little effort. However, if both put forth their best efforts then genetic capacity comes into play as the limiting factor. The Ashkenazi Jew having the greater genetic capacity for intelligence should be the more intelligent.

          What we find from testing is that Ashkenazi Jews are at the top of the IQ spectrum followed by East Asians then Caucasians and so on with Africans and Aborigines at the very bottom.

          IQ testing isn’t perfect and it can be difficult to isolate the amount of human effort involved as opposed to genetic capacity for learning. Any scientific tool we use should validate what we actually see in the natural world. This is not always the case with IQ testing.

          In fact, I would place Caucasians at the top of the list as the most intelligent race of people. East Asians by and large place a greater emphasis on learning and have a culture more conducive to that end than Caucasians. I believe that they typically use more human effort in intelligence attainment but that Caucasians have the greater genetic capacity for intelligence. I believe history bears this out. We have direct observation at our disposal.

          East Asians didn’t put a man on the moon, possibly the greatest feat of human engineering of all time. They never invented the automobile or the airplane. They didn’t invent electricity and nearly everything that runs on it. No, they seem to specialize in adapting what Caucasians have already invented.

          The most profound discoveries and applications of science have been made almost exclusively by Caucasians.

          With regard to Africans the evidence is quite clear concerning their levels of intelligence. The following quotes sum it up quite accurately:

          “It will be seen that when we classify mankind by color, the only one of the primary races, given by this classification,which has not made a creative contribution to any one of our twenty-one civilizations is the Black Race.” – Dr. Arnold Toynbee, The Study of History, Vol. I, page 233.

          “I am apt to suspect the Negroes to be naturally inferior to the Whites. There scarcely ever was a civilization of their complexion, nor even any individual, eminent either in action or speculation.” – David Hume, English philosopher, in his book, Essays, Moral and Political, Vol.II

          “In most if not all of the newly independent Black nations of Africa, little if anything during the past 5000 or more years can be pointed to as having made a contribution that in anyway enhances the life of man.” – Walter Arnold, The Evolution of Man in Relation to That of the Earth, Part V, The Mankind Quarterly, Vol. X, No.2 (Oct-Dec 1969) p. 78.

          “As a social anthropologist, I naturally accept and even stress the fact that there are major differences, both mental and psychological, which separate the different races of mankind. Indeed, I would be inclined to suggest that however great may be the physical differences between such races as the European and the Negro, the mental and psychological differences are greater still.” – L.S. B. Leakey, in The Progress And Evolution Of Man In Africa ( Oxford University Press ), 1961.

  • mikejones91

    I found a site that listed him as “lab personal” in a neuroscience lab in North Carolina. Although the page couldn’t load. MY computer sucks. 

  • mikejones91

    Please don’y say that. Someone comes on and read this–they think were crazy/ This is a “realism” logic based site. Not a church. Leave GOD, out. Allah Bless.

  • mikejones91

    And what does that mean now?? I don’t give two craps if your people had the first GREAT CIVILIZATION ON THIS EARTH. I don’t believe it. I have yet to see proof of this. Maybe us whites did come from YOU but we have certainly “changed” through separation. So what now? We just want to be left alone. Free from the parasitic black race.WE don’t want violence. We don’t hate, just separate. That’s all. Maybe if we segragate, the black race can finally be restored to its former (claimed with no proof) glory that you guys speak of. Again—Maybe we did come from you—but WE are different NOW. The past is irrelevant in this argument. Your just proving the sociopathic nature of the black.

    • If you want to see proof Mike all you have to do is go to africa instead of spending your time trolling on the internet. You speak of separation, thats funny Mike. Isn’t the story of Europeans in America built on english settlers attempting to escape the TYRANNY of their OF THEIR OWN NATIVE WHITE MONARCHIES? 

      You brag and boast of invention, enslavement. How can an invention that pollutes the world and destroy habitat SIMULTANEOUSLY make the world a better place? I believe that is called an OXYMORONIC statement MIKE, it rooted in contradiction. 

      If you had the brain of a peanut you wouldn’t talk about slavery. Europeans were enslaved by Moorish Africans for SEVEN CENTURIES. Also, European JEWS were enslaved by Egyptians even longer than that. One more thing a majority of inventions that “YOUR PEOPLE” take credit for are lies. Everyone knows that, the airplanes, cars, WHEELS, pulley systems etc etc have been around since ancient times. 

      “YOUR PEOPLE” at best can be credited for REDISCOVERY of things past. “YOUR PEOPLE” are known for “DISCOVERING” lands already inhabited for thousands of years by aboriginals. Every single land “discovered” or “explored” by Europeans was already inhabited by some type of aboriginal people. Lastly, whites are a GLOBAL MINORITY only 9% of the earth’s population.

      ONE AFRICAN in a european location can change the genotype, image, and features of that population in just 25 years. The proof lies in Italians, Spaniards, and Frenchmen. Most of my claims are supported by mainstream anthropology, archeology, history, and research. You can find this research on by simply looking through NETFLIX..LOL peace Mikey

      •  You left out something.  Musical accompaniment to your brilliant mini-dissertation.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jTHNBKjMBU

      • withpower

        Speaking as a Spaniard, you ought to go check the DNA studies done on the population.  We are by far the most genetically pure country in Southern Europe and utterly destroyed your presence over a glorious 800 year Reconquista.

        Love that super white football team, too.  Arriba.

        It’s also quite telling how much you revel in holding slaves, revealing the true nature of the African and exactly why he is unfit to rule over any people on the Earth — his inherent lack of nobility. Piss off, blackie.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-34HsCXXR84

        • The most common genetic traits known to be pure european are blond hair, blue eyes, and pale white skin, just ask your idol Hitler. The majority of spaniards, italians, and french DO NOT   HAVE these features.

          I never “reveled” in holding slaves, the individual who I was responding to was “reveling” in the TINY time period of the european slave trade. Also, every single race, creed and/or nationality has practiced slavery or indentured servitude. 

          WithOUTpower just stop it buddy, you’re no match for me. Have you even been anywhere besides Sunflower KS? I can tell that you people don’t travel anywhere. EVEN MOST EUROPEANS can’t stand white americans they consider them a DISGRACE so I KNOW you’re not a spaniard from spain, maybe from america BUT NOT SPAIN…lol

        • withpower

          There are lots of blonde haired, blue eyed, green eyed, auburn haired, grey eyed people in all of those countries.   My skin is not very naturally tanned at all, though if I am out in the sun it will surely become that way.  Have you ever actually been to Spain?

          Brown eyes are not the be all end all of mixed blood.

          And this notion that Europeans do not agree with what is being discussed here and want your kind to be in their countries is sort of completely destroyed by the rocketing rise of Nationalism all over the continent.  You aren’t wanted and aren’t needed.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSvSxswLdgU

      • mikejones91

        All I can say is here in America, in my white neighbothood–WE don’t NEED signs to remind people that mob violence is wrong. That “real men don’t rape”. That women are NOT objects and should be treated with respect. You know what I am talking about. I can’t insert the picture but you can see for yourself. In MANY African countries they actually need signs to tell people to not RAPE/MOB/KILL other HUMANS!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.. Equality!

      • mikejones91

        White invention myths? It is a popular myth that Whites invented slavery, “racism”, oppression, discrimination, prejudice, HIV/AIDS, greed, warfare, subjugation, conquest, genocide and imperialism. We didn’t actually invent any of those things, although we have excelled at most of them.

    • Nicole Brooks

      just read, read with an open mind, don’t read as a white person who wants to be superior to mankind, but as a human being seeking the truth. Invasion of the African continent as slavery really crippled black people and still continue to do that. There is an illusion that we can access the same opportunities as whites can but we don’t really have the resourses. The slave master passed on his wealth to his decendants, what can a slave give to his future children when there was nothing to begin with, we had a bad start after slavery, if it was’nt evident, why was the need for the civil rights movement. Please, don’t be ignorant. Get some books at the library and really go deep int African history, or history on the whole before you judge a people who you don’t know because you go out of your way to shun.

  • mikejones91

    Even if blacks did have some amazing civilization, we don’t care. We want separation. Not bragging rights. But–You blacks can’t get past that. YOU have this need to tell us what your people did (thousands of years ago) as if to rectify your PRESENT DAY disparity. WE DON”T CARE. WE want to be left alone. But–the black will NOT leave us alone. Immigration/blah blah. I don’t hate black people. I just love white people more. LEAVE. We don’t want a “war”. We want you to go back to Africa/Carribean. Then you can prosper and prove us wrong, right? Maybe then you can show us. And even then, we still don’t care. Your like a child seeking the approval of a negligent parent. Be gone, boy. Go to your room. Build your cities. 

    • Nicole Brooks

      go back to Africa and the Caribbean???? so just white people belong here after killing blacks from slavery and using immigrants… huh so you are the right and true “American’ I i guessed your mom fucked Sitting Bull or Geronomo to have you, since you belong here and blacks dont!! You are hateful and evil…

  •  Afrocentric lunacies aside, I think the only Black cultures in Africa were Kingdom of Kush & something about Nubia.
    Just, I’m not well acquainted with the subject, so this is actually more of a conjecture.
    Of course, Egypt & the rest is …..

  •  You just can’t trust those grafted snakes, can you?

    (For those who are curious, search the string “grafted snake” to find out what some blacks think of us. You’ll never laugh at Rush Limbaugh calling Louis Farrakhan “Calypso Louie” again. )

  • anarchyst

    It’s the defective black pathology that fuels the violence that is endemic and part of black culture.
    Being “disrespected” calls for immediate action, by fists, knife or gun.  Everywhere blacks congregate, there is violence.
    In Florida, “young master trayvon” felt that he was disrespected by neighborhood watchman Mr. Zimmerman for asking about his “business” being in that neighborhood.  Any ordinary (non-black) person would have explained that he had relatives in the neighborhood and would have been on his way, but not “young master trayvon”.  In order to regain his “respect” “young master trayvon” was “forced” (by his defective black pathology) to jump Mr. Zimmerman and attempt to murder him.

  • Bill_der_Berg

    I used to know somebody who spent a year in Zambia on the Voluntary Service Overseas scheme.  The government there had a space programme of a sort.  They got as far as putting a trainee astronaut in a barrel and rolling him down a hill.  As far as I know they have not yet sent anyone to the moon.

    • HenryHolliday

      They could easily land someone on the moon if they could just calculate the rate at which the earth revolves around the moon. They’re working on it.

  • Dibblah

    As with anything if you keep repeating the lies long enough they eventually become accepted as “truth”. Add to that Hitler’s axiom that if you’re going to tell a lie to the masses, make sure it’s a big one and you have the crucible forming where the re-writing of history to suit the black agenda has now started to edge into the mainstream.

    This is now being represented as at least legitimate conjecture and in some deluded circles as outright fact. Consider that most of the public school teachers today are liberals and black apologists they will lap this nonsense up and strat (and they probably already are) teaching our children that this is fact. Welcome to US history (revised) class 101. Whites are losing this cultural and demographic replacement war hand over fist. We should not be surprised at this for it’s the victor thast writes the historical narrative.

  • 1proactive2

    …..but blacks follow the devil’s actions.

  • 1proactive2

    What you are unable to grasp is when a white person attempts to pass as a scholar, he or she isn’t taken seriously – by anyone above a tenth grade education, inbred, not politically correct, or non-delusional. 

    But if a black invents or plays pretend black race achievement, they make a movie out of it.  The best thing these black fantasy-makers have going for them is The Bell Curve. 

  • mikejones91

    Who cares. You say OUR inventions pollute the world? Sure, they do but they also have made the world YOU live in better. White inventions allow Africans to live longer. You may have been here longer, but that doesn’t mean we are NOT different. WE have evolved. ALL of us. WE are different NOW. You got here first. Then we came along. We came/saw/and conquered. Conquered as in enslaved your people, no offense. WE also got to space FIRST. Unless there was some ancient African space program. However I am sure we would find some type of “artifact” from that era of sub-Saharan prosperity. But we haven’t. I don’t care if you were here first. I don’t care if your people invented the car. I love MY people. Be gone. To each his own. Let US be. 

    • Robert

      You’re screwed up in the head, boy. It’s comment like the one you made that makes me long for 2050 when your race is a minority.

      • John

        “Since the dawn of history the Negro has owned the continent of Africa – rich beyond the dream of poet’s fancy, crunching acres of diamonds beneath his bare black feet and yet he never picked one up from the dust until a white man showed to him its glittering light.
        His land swarmed with powerful and docile animals, yet he never dreamed a harness, cart, or sled.
        A hunter by necessity, he never made an axe, spear, or arrowhead worth preserving beyond the moment of its use. He lived as an ox, content to graze for an hour.
        In a land of stone and timber he never sawed a foot of lumber, carved a block, or built a house save of broken sticks and mud.
        With league on league of ocean strand and miles of inland seas, for four thousand years he watched their surface ripple under the wind, heard the thunder of the surf on his beach, the howl of the storm over his head, gazed on the dim blue horizon calling him to worlds that lie beyond, and yet he never dreamed a sail.”

  • Ni123

     ” I also had a great laugh watching a documentary featuring the Black Israelites amongst other Black nationalists”

    Thank you, watching it now. “There are no banks in Harlem”. Of course there are no banks in Harlem, just as there are no chain food stores in Detroit. Rev. Sharpton omitted to explain why, though.

  • Yeah except you’re wrong…the whole “Out of Africa” theory is hardly proven science.  And even if it were true, so what?  Look at what we “mutants” have accomplished.  I’d rather be a mutant capable of building a functioning civilization, thank you very much.

  • The AFRICAN was the first to circumnavigate the entire earth. Actually, when the Islamic-Moors pushed further into Europe after completely conquering Spain (between 8-15th century) they found the Europeans to be uncivilized cavemen. The Moors found that they had no raised sidewalks, street lamps, alchemy, science, mathematics, or schools. Islamic-Moors also noticed they were constantly plagued with disease because they had not yet developed corrals to separate their livestock from the people. 

    Europeans were literally brought out of the DARK AGES by AFRICANS. I challenge anyone to debunk what I’ve just stated. EVEN WHEN THE EARLY ENGLISH SETTLERS landed in America less than 10% of their original population could survive, this is more recent history.

     They couldn’t survive because they did NOT KNOW HOW TO LIVE OFF THE LAND. Europeans could not fish, farm, hunt, they only knew how to pillage, plunder, steal, and raid. Native Americans (who are also colored) had to teach them how to live off the land. Europeans owe their very EXISTENCE in AMERICA to NATIVE AMERICANS. Someone please tell me where are the NATIVE AMERICANS now? How did the EUROPEANS THANK THE NATIVE AMERICANS? The same way they thanked the Moors, Egyptians, East Indians, and Asians, they stole knowledge, and used it to rape, plunder, pillage and wage war.

    The european mindset continues to manifests itself throughout the world, when they’re extended a helping hand they feign humility suck resources and knowledge, and then wage war. Don’t worry about AFRICAN history WE KNOW OUR HISTORY, just focus on yours, your history is the story of THE LEECH OR TIC DIG IN AND SUCK THE LAND DRY OF ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING YOU CAN. 

    I still have no hatred in my heart towards white people, just stating facts THATS ALL. 
    HEY “GOLDEN MINDS” OF AMREN TELL YOUR MODERATOR NOT TO DELETE IT TELL HIM TO DISPROVE IT!…LMAO…YOUR MODERATOR LIKES TO CENSOR HE DOESN’T TRUST YOU GUYS ARTICULATION OR DEBATING SKILLS!!!!

    •  I don’t know what’s wrong with you, N’Deshawntavious.  You know you should attach musical soundtracks.

      I can’t help you forever.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye_fZocBAMI

    • godzillabloggs

      He is as bad as the evil white pope who silenced the great black scientist  Galileo.

  • godzillabloggs

    These revisionists are keeping quiet about the contribution of extraterrestials to African scientific achievement.   Apparently, long ago a bunch of  amphibious creatures arrived in a space ship and provided the Dogon people of Mali with advanced astronomical knowledge.  You can read all about it in ‘The Sirius Mystery’  although I should warn  you that the thesis it advances has not yet found universal acceptance.

  • godzillabloggs

    Black intellectuals used to argue that the reason that Africans did not develop electrical power is that they had no incentive to do so – the sun kept them warm.

  • Major

    Here’s all I give Africa credit for…dubious credit at that:

    AIDS, Ebola, Swine Flu and Hurricanes. Poverty, genocide, tribalism, cannibalism, war, pestilence and disease.

    And the worlds largest inventory of “Colonels” ( no Generals ) in charge of their gangster “armies” that the world has ever seen.

    And lastly…the earths very own black hole where all matter and money completely disappears and never does any good for anyone other than those afore mentioned Colonels.

    If the world needed an enema….it’d be Africa that’d get it.

    What do you call an African that owns one dog? Fed.

    And an African that owns two dogs? A rancher.

    • godzillabloggs

      But if it  were not for black civilisation, where would you  all be now?   Still living in Detroit, that’s where.

  • How about adapting the ways of the IDIOTS like you and just take what you want and destroy all the good things God put on this earth?

  • AmRem

    I like the tag “Black Myths” 

  • rob arm

     it is funny that majority of the racists comments are from people with no real image up.

  • strobe iw

    where’s the proof of what we were taught by europeans? have you guys done the research personally? so what makes you so sure what they taught you is real. it only makes you feel better about yourselves, so let us do what we do.

  • Guest

    You all are idiots. Everyone is the same whether your African, European or Asian.