Latino Life: Living in ‘Gringolandia’

Sandra Guzman, NBC News, August 10, 2014

When you have to drive more than six hours to eat your favorite Latin American dish because local groceries don’t carry the ingredients to make it at home, you know you live in “Gringolandia.” That is what Nery Diaz, a native of Honduras, discovered days after moving to Maine a year ago.

“Even if my wife wants to cook baleada (a traditional Honduran dish that is similar to a Mexican quesadilla) at home, we haven’t been able to find a store locally that carries the flour to prepare it,” explained Diaz, who moved from the Washington, D.C-Virginia area–the epicenter of the U.S. Central American population–to South Portland, Maine a year ago to help open a Mexican restaurant with a friend.

“I can count the number of Latinos in this state in one hand, and most work in my restaurant,” he said jokingly of the Hispanic population in Maine. But the real cultural shock for Diaz, who lives with his wife and 12-year old daughter, wasn’t that he couldn’t find an eatery that carried his favorite delicacy when the craving hit. His big culture shock involved soccer, his favorite sport.

“In my old neighborhood I could walk to almost any public park on any day of the week and pick up a game of futbol,” he explained. “Since moving here, I’ve yet to see one player kicking the ball around,” Diaz said somberly. And this is coming from a man who managed a soccer league of twenty teams.

“But it’s worth the sacrifice,” he added. “There are more financial opportunities here for me and my family.”

Diaz is part of a growing number of Latino professionals who are moving from traditional Hispanic settlements to states and towns with very little Latino presence. Maine and Vermont, among the whitest states in the nation–both have less than 5 percent of Hispanic residents, combined. Yet these states have seen a six percent increase in the Hispanic population in the last decade, according to the U.S. Census.

Joan Zelaya used to live in West New York, New Jersey, a densely populated urban metropolis that feels more like Bogota and Havana and boasts a 95 percent Latin American population. When she moved to Athens, Ohio her culture shock was intense.

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Living in a place with few Latino neighbors and colleagues taught Zelaya to build a community with the small number of people of color she did find, she said. Yet even with a strong sense of comunidad that Zelaya was able to build, the feeling of otherness never went away.

“You can’t escape that otherness when you are the only Latina or woman of color in the office or in the supermarket,” she said. Zelaya recently quit her job as Co Director of Tutoring Services at Ohio University to move to Dallas. She confessed that part of the allure of Dallas was that it was more Latinocentric, even if she moved there without a job.

“It wasn’t that I experienced overt racism in Athens,” explained Zelaya, a community college teacher, but more subtle “micro aggressive moments.”

Some examples, said Zelaya, was when she would be told, ‘oh you are so articulate, you speak English so well,’ she said. “What they are implying is that only white people are articulate,” said Zelaya.

Something that happened a lot in Athens, Ohio was the fascination with Zelaya’s ethnic hair.

“A lot of people asked me about my curly hair and even asked to touch it,” she said. “I’ve had an evolution where ten years ago that would have been fighting moments,” she explained. “I never thought it was my responsibility to teach white people and others about Latino heritage but now I use those incidents as teachable moments–moments to connect.”

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  • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

    These places won’t be “Gringolandia” for long.

    • Oil Can Harry

      Correct. They’ll be El Barrio: The Sequels.

      “Living in a place with few Latino neighbors and colleagues taught Zelaya to build a community with the small number of people of color she did find, she said.”

      As always, when nonwhites stick with their own kind, it’s considered normal. When whites do it, it’s a hate crime.

      • Nancy

        Same thing with language fluency and hair. My old boyfriend spent his senior year as an exchange student in France. He regularly got complimented on his fluency over there. I can’t recall he ever told me it was insulting, or that the French were presumptuously claiming they were the only articulate ones.

        And when I had that awful inner-city teaching job years ago, my hair was much longer than it is now. The little black girls were fascinated with it, and touched it and braided it every day at recess. They were not shy about asking me questions about my hair, and explaining how theirs was different.

        It’s gotten to the point that ANY difference is offensive now.

        Oh, and by the way…when I can’t find my special ingredients (I cook A LOT), I use the internet. Same if I’m “craving” soft pretzels from Federal Pretzel in South Philly (best in the world).

    • ViktorNN

      Very true. Wherever Mexicans and Central Americans gather, they re-create the sh*tholes they came from.

      And then they’ll turn around and blame their dysfunction on “gringos,” of course.

  • MekongDelta69

    They keep invading us.
    They keep complaining and bitching and moaning.

    And still, they keep invading us some more.

    Go home…

    • APaige

      Go Home. When the only cultural gift a group can bestow upon others is crappy food or crappy music it is not worth the time.

      • TL2014

        It’s actually decent music and food, but no matter..

        • Sharps Rifle

          Tex Mex or New Mexican is decent…Mex Mex is gross.

          • RHG

            And Mariachi music is horrible.

          • Anglo

            Yes, that music is awful.

          • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

            Mariachi is cheerful, at least.

          • ViktorNN

            Cheerful in a moronic, astoundingly repetitive, grating way.

        • ViktorNN

          Mexican music sucks. Period.

          • Who Me?

            Annoying but beats the heck out of (c)rap.

      • MBlanc46

        Mexican food is among my favorites. I find the music annoying. I’m will to give a (very) few permanent visas for restaurateurs and a few more temporary visas for restaurant staff. Deport the rest immediately.

        • Who Me?

          Most of the food is very good indeed, but Americans are smart enough to learn to cook it perfectly. It’s not really very hard to make excellent Hispanic foods.

          • MBlanc46

            I can cook some pretty decent Italian food, too, but that doesn’t stop me from going to Italian restaurants.

          • David

            Yes, and we can take a vacation to their places and experience it when we want to. We don’t need them to come here and use our social programs instead.

      • Tim_in_Indiana

        I would never have minded the music if I hadn’t heard it played at 100 decibels or at 1 o’clock in the morning…

      • David

        They are very clear they don’t want to bestow any gifts, just have the best opportunities for themselves. That part is OK, but cry me a river if she doesn’t feel welcome then, by people who feel they are being forced to give so she can take.

    • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

      We don’t want them here, they weren’t invited, and living here is apparently godaweful inconvenient for them, so the solution to both our problems would seem obvious.

      • SentryattheGate

        Right; they’ve got most of the Western Hemisphere to make a go of it,WITH THEIR OWN KIND! If they had a decent culture, they could make something of all the natural resources they have! Why are they SO PROUD of such a scumbag culture??? Even Spain couldn’t qualify to enter the EU until Germany gave them $$$billions to build the required highways, airports etc. Now Spain is bankrupt and getting bailed-out by guess who?;Germany of course!

    • SentryattheGate

      RE. her comment: “I never thought it was my responsibility to teach white people and others about Latino heritage but now I use those incidents as teachable moments–moments to connect.” Pray, tell us truthfully about your Latino heritage; pervasive crime, corruption, bribery, violence, no rule of law, little respect for education, little to no public education, high rates of illiteracy, false pride and arrogance, a machismo culture that glorifies power over others (esp. over women)& glorifies dictators as “muy macho!”, rampant promiscuity, incest and bastard children, many orphans (cared for by white Christians), no inventions nor great thinkers, no manufactured goods that are in demand, ….yet they are so proud of their heritage!!!! We should feel so lucky to have them HERE!!!

      • World_War_Me

        Well, yeah, but, do YOU have curly hair? See, she’s got this culturally magical curly hair where pilgrims all across the state of Maine flock in the hope of the various blessings bestowed from her miraculous curly hair. Verily, it is a teachable moment that can heal the sick and cure the cripples. Surely no native White person in the entire state of Maine has curly hair! Don’t you want to ask her questions about her glorious unique and exotic curly hair?!

        • gemjunior

          LMAO – that’s the EXACT attitude this article painted whites having about black people’s hair. When my daughter was not even 3 she informed me she “did not like black people – especially their nose and hair” so I knew that like me, she never ever experienced this yearning to touch a black person’s hair. Neither does any other normal, truthful white person. “Ooohh, can I TOUCH it? Pleeeze? Just one time?” What BS – the truth is we are running away from the stench emanating from unwashed brillo that was thrice rolled in lint and anything other than soap and water. The idea that we benighted whites are being granted this special gift of grossness – is played out and makes me gag. I can tell you I have caught many black women sitting on buses, in waiting rooms, or in classrooms staring enviously at my hair and even some have also asking me if “it was really mine” – asking me to pick it up so they could see the back. They would DIE for hair like ours.

          • SentryattheGate

            Yes, my daughter has a friend (w a white mom/black dad; dad abandoned them—SURPRISE!). This friend openly envies my daughter’s thick, long auburn hair, often wants to make hairdo’s with it. She openly wonders what the freak was mom doing having kids with blacks!!!!!

      • PvtCharlieSlate

        It seems that those with the least to be proud about are the loudest, strutting proudest.
        Sort of like famous for being famous.
        I just have zero respect for a culture whose signature form of entertainment is torturing animals to death.
        And, based on repeated personal experience, the only thing a frijolero is good for is the dumb end of a hand tool. Put one of them in a clean shirt and tie and they think and act as if they have just been elevated to the right hand of God and their only function is to strut around and look important.

        • SentryattheGate

          So well said! And the point about their bloody animal cruelty!!! Bullfighting, dogfighting and cockfighting! That helps to point out their machismo culture. Wish Latinos could look in the mirror and see what everyone else does!! Maybe they’d learn something????

  • anony

    So leave!

    • kjh64

      I was going to say the same thing, LEAVE. I mean if I moved to Mexico or Honduras, I would NOT expect them to have certain types of American food in their stores nor would I expect American culture. They need to go back to live in “Brownolandia” if they have a problem. I also wouldn’t be offended if they told me I spoke Spanish in an articulate manner BTW either. I would be flattered.

  • D.B. Cooper

    I seriously, seriously had to compose myself long enough to get through this wretched article. Sick of gringos? Then why in God’s holy Hell do you insist on living among us? Take your genetically inferior selves to some place with enriching diversity.
    I’ve been to Honduras when I was in the Army. That place is nearly century behind the rest of us. I like how you people just throw your garbage out the front door.
    What If I started saying, “There’s too many Latinos down here! I can’t find a decent honky-tonk around here”?

  • Mary

    A fascination with her curly, “ethnic” hair? That must be a whitopia indeed! I have never known Whites to have any fascination with non-White hair, at least in a positive sense. If her hair is that curly, it sounds like she must be a mulatto since mestizos usually have relatively straight hair.

    • Who Me?

      Who wants to touch their curly, greasy, dirty hair, and why?

    • kjh64

      Yes, most Latinos have straight hair.

    • World_War_Me

      Every person in my immediate family has naturally wavy/curly hair, and we are most certainly not vibrant diversities. Like most of her ilk, she is a raving narcissist who lives in a fantasy world she believes her culture’s inferior ways are exotic and magical. Worse, they believe all Whites should feel this way toward their culture as well.

  • Evette Coutier

    If you don’t like whites, get the heck out. Go back to your own country and be with your own. Wtf, if I go down to Brazil I’d be stupid to complain it was full of Hispanics. Duh. These people are offensive beyond belief.

    • Periapsis

      Indeed, go home invaders painted in Spanish on every overpass should send the message loud and clear to these squat monster invaders.

      • Who Me?

        Why bother they can’t read, and half of them don’t even speak Spanish, according to many reports. (Another thing for them to bitch about.)

        • Periapsis

          Sooner than later, whites may be sending the same message, only in a way the most brain dead will comprehend. Words will be unnecessary.

    • KevinPhillipsBong

      Brazil is not full of Hispanics as its not a Spanish-speaking nation…but I know what you mean.

    • World_War_Me

      They are raving narcissists.

  • CarolinaGem

    “It wasn’t that I experienced overt racism in Athens,” explained Zelaya,
    a community college teacher, but more subtle “micro aggressive
    moments.”
    —————————————————————————–
    These people are despicable.

    First your sorry butts leave your own country to come over and take over mine, a country MY ancestors fought and died for. Then you have the audacity to find hidden “aggressiveness” in a compliment, for crying out loud. Another case of the perpetually aggrieved.

    As far as someone asking to touch your nappy head and your so called missed opportunity for a “teachable moment”- GET OVER YOURSELF. Only white liberals would behave in such a stupid fawning manner if this happened at all.

  • Lewis33

    “She confessed that part of the allure of Dallas was that it was more Latinocentric, even if she moved there without a job.”
    I can here the Fed cash register ringer her up already. Isn’t that why they have signs for government “assistance” in Spanish anyway?

    • LHathaway

      If she wants to be around more Latinos, then praise be to her and all of them. If white men even hint at something that could be construed as a desire to be around other white men, ultimate sin.

  • http://www.thepoliticalcesspool.org/ 1776is1984

    Oh Lord help us, another blessing of diversity. They come to our countires and complain the first minute they get here.

    • LHathaway

      They are living under a ‘global oppression’.

  • JackKrak

    You can’t find the flour you like in Maine? Hmm.

    It’s funny you mention that because I can’t find the safe, functioning and prosperous societies that I like in places like Honduras. I can’t find the educated people I like, the Anglo Saxon culture I like or even the indoor plumbing and working electrical grids that I like.

    Now tell me, whose country is really “missing” something?

  • http://azzmador.com/ Azzmador

    Gringo literally means “barbarian.” Thanks, Hispanics, we love you too!

    • Periapsis

      LOL, if we were barbarians, they would not be invading our nation, we would be leaving theirs as a scorched wasteland with charred skeletons everywhere. That was what the barbarian Mongols did repeatedly against the Ukrainians. If anyone is a gringo, it’s them, and they are projecting their barbarian, un-civilized nature on us.

    • http://www.ambrosekane.com/ bluffcreek1967

      They have the gaul to call us “barbarians”?! Aren’t these the same people who create squalor wherever they live and who bring their violent gang culture to the U.S.? Hmmm, if you think about it, who really the “barbarians”?

    • M&S

      Interesting, are you fluent?
      Checking around, the derived meaning appears to be Foreigner, especially one who doesn’t speak Spanish. But it’s origins are murky with references going back to the 1846-48 war, (the color of uniforms or a song) and even to a bastardization of Griego as ‘Greeks’ (all Greek to me etc.).
      It is most often applied, in country, to those who come south with a rack full of Ugly American attitude and a belief in their right to interfere in CA affairs.
      I would say it is closer to Gaijin as outsider/interloper than Iteki as barbarian/savage.

  • Shadow

    I think I should write an article titled “Latinolandia”,so I can report on the many travails of living amongst the dusky hordes from Latin America.

    • Teresa Nichols

      You wouldn’t find NBC News publishing your article though, for that would be “racist”.

    • http://azzmador.com/ Azzmador

      It might go something like “…they never really directed any overt racism, like Ebola, at me, but there were all these micro-aggressions…the scabies, the TB. I didn’t know when I came to the third world I’d have to educate them about health and hygiene!”

    • Rurik

      Are you the Shadow I think you? Welcome to AmRen, friend. If you’re a different Shadow, well pleased to make your acquaintance, new friend.

  • TruthBeTold

    “But it’s worth the sacrifice,” he added. “There are more financial opportunities here for me and my family.”

    The FACT is these people WILL turn these areas of opportunity into the same hell holes they left.

    • Who Me?

      Of COURSE there are financial opportunities here. They’re called welfare, section 8, free education, food stamps. free breakfast, lunch, and after-school food for the kids, affirmative action, scholarships, in-state tuition, Head Start, after school daycare, and on and on and on…… all paid for by those horrible, cruel, racist gringos.

      • World_War_Me

        They hate us, our culture, and our laws, but they LOVE OUR MONEY!!!!

    • Holden

      Every Republican politician I know would be 100% sympathetic to the quoted statement above. That’s why I hate liberalism: both the left and right varieties. They boil people down into economic units: interchangeable cogs in a global economy. Screw nation, ethny, kin, race, heritage, etc. It’s all about taxpayers, jobs and economic opportunities.

  • none of your business

    Real latins don’t have kinky afro hair. In fact, most hispanics in America are part indian and have very straight hair compared to White hair which is mostly wavy in varying degrees.
    But never fear afro hispanic with afro hair!!! There is always another affirmative action job and another HR recruiter eager to hire you instead of a qualified White. You might find the Dallas hispanics less accepting of your part african heritage than any Ohio White.

  • dd121

    No problem finding Mexicans or Mexican food here in Colorado. I knew a Mexican engineer who lived and worked in Saltillo, Mexico. He could have come to the USA and made more money but felt he’d have more respect and status in society if he stayed in Mexico. I guess most of them have overcome that.

    • Ngati Pakeha

      That’s the irony. The Mexican professionals (nearly all Castilliano) stay in Mexico. The people swimming/walking/climbing and tunneling the border are the detritus of their society.

      • http://www.ambrosekane.com/ bluffcreek1967

        As I’ve said many time, Mexico doesn’t give us their best, they give us their worst!

        • http://azzmador.com/ Azzmador

          We are the release valve for their huddled masses.

          • Ngati Pakeha

            Agreed. But the valve is more akin to a sphincter as the crap seems to flow in only one direction unfortunately. Wouldn’t it be great to empty Detroit into Mexico?

  • IstvanIN

    They follow us because they are incapable of building much of anything functioning themselves. Hopefully the Mexican restaurant will fail and they will freeze in the Maine winter.

  • Who Me?

    “Even if my wife wants to cook baleada (a traditional Honduran dish that is similar to a Mexican quesadilla) at home, we haven’t been able to find a store locally that carries the flour to prepare it,” explained Diaz.”

    Well here’s a tip. If you can’t find it in the Ethnic food section of the supermarket (highly unlikely) those of us with “White privilege” do something called “improvise”. (Look it up.) Failing that, you can buy anything in the world online. (Yes, even food and cooking supplies.) All you need is a credit card, a debit card or even Paypal…oh wait….

    • Who Me?

      Looked up baleadas (in the Kraft Foods Recipes online).This is what it had to say, and I did a copy/paste here to make sure it was perfectly accurate.:

      FOOD FACTS
      Baleadas are one of Honduras’s popular foods. Baleadas are wheat flour tortillas, often quite thick, folded in half and filled with mashed fried beans. They originate in El Progreso. They are eaten for breakfast, lunch, snack or light dinner.

      Nothing hard to find here….

      • IstvanIN

        What is it with them and mashed beans? I can understand a poor man’s diet but come on, all their food looks poor and mashed.

        • Who Me?

          I can take the beans every so often, but Mexican-style “Spanish rice”??? Rice with some tomato sauce mixed in is NOT my idea of something good to eat. Why they call mashed beans “refried beans” is a mystery to cooks everywhere. They are neither fried, not re-fried.

        • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

          I spread refried beans on flour tortillas, and then rice and bacon, cheese and almost everything in the garden, folding them up before baking them. I like using chipotle with Phillipine adobo sauce. I like cooking, and I am really good at it, but I don’t like Mexicans.

  • TL2014

    Boo effin hoo….pobrecitos

  • Ringo Lennon

    They don’t belong in a white country.

    • willbest

      I disagree, New England needs to experience the hell they have inflicted on the rest of the country first hand.

  • ZB01

    There are no bars which prevent you leaving Maine, and while we’re at it, there are no bars on our southern borders, either.

  • RHG

    This stuff just infuriates me, hispanics are the ones who search out “Gringolandia” areas and then whine and gripe that these areas aren’t “hispanic” enough. Here is an idea, stay in Honduras or Mexico and you can get all the special flour and ingredients for your food you need and you won’t have to put up with “micro-aggressions” which is the latest scam invented by race hustlers to attack whites with.

  • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

    I’m not sure I believe this article. Wal Mart has an entire aisle of Hispanic food, and I don’t think there’s any regional variation in what products Wal Mart stocks. For instance, here in Colorado, Wal Mart’s sporting goods section carries heavyweight salt-water fishing rods, but not reloading equipment or supplies – an arrangement I can only call peculiar.

    • willbest

      WalMart most certainly caters to regions.

      • KevinPhillipsBong

        I live in an area with few Jews and every year after Passover the discount and close-out section of my Kroger is overflowing with unpurchased Matzo, Manischewitz and nasty-looking fish in jars.

  • John Stone

    Home sweet home.

  • DLRisVH

    Sounds to me like these people would be much happier back in their homelands.

  • DLRisVH

    “I can count the number of Latinos in this state in one hand”

    Wish I could say that!

    • KevinPhillipsBong

      That would be one BIG hand.

  • Anglo

    Nery Diaz and his wife are not the only ones experiencing culture shock, so are we Whites. This is our country. They need to go back to Honduras where they belong. If they don’t like their failed state of Honduras, let them clean it up.

  • Garrett Brown

    “When you have to drive more than six hours to eat your favorite Latin
    American dish because local groceries don’t carry the ingredients to
    make it at home”

    If ANY Mestizo said this to me with a straight face, I would hysterically laugh and immediately tell them to go back to the **** hole they came from. What kind of insanity is this article?

    • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

      That six hour figure seems a bit funny to me. Salt Lake City to Grand Junction is a fair drive, and that’s only five hours.

      • Garrett Brown

        Complainers always over exaggerate.

  • John R

    “Micro-aggressions”? The new buzz word of black and brown complaints about Whites. They can’t come up with any real issues they have with us Whites so anything we do is a “micro-aggression.” Geeze.

    • http://www.amren.com/ Michael Christopher Scott

      I’d like to tell them to cowboy-up and grow thicker skins, but that would probably hurt their poor, widdle feewings.

      • Ngati Pakeha

        You tell them that Michael and they will start trying to mate with livestock.

  • De Doc

    Simple solution for this fella, who misses his ethnic roots. Return to their place of origin!

  • zamzow

    What a sick disgusting article.

    • Emblematic

      It’s so blithely unaware of it’s own selfishness you’d swear it was a parody.

  • willbest

    Curious, if every Hispanic in Maine works in his restaurant, any white person that has applied for a job there most likely has an employment discrimination claim to be made.

    Oh and you can buy any ethnic ingredients you like and have them shipped to you. Its one of the marvels of the first world.

  • Who Me?

    Not enough Hispanic people here for ya? (Oh, how I wish…) Well there’s a least a dozen countries just FULL of Hispanics just south of the southern border of the United States. Why don’t you relocate there. If it’s Latino types you wish, you ought to be supremely happy there–and we’d be more than happy to see you there, too.

  • World_War_Me

    I don’t believe for ONCE SECOND that lots of people want to “touch her hair”. That’s absurd. She’s not the only person in Maine with curly hair, plenty of people have curly/wavy hair. She just wants to believe that she’s special and exotic. This is so typical of the narcissistic fantasy world these grievance classes live in. I’m convinced these people actually crave attention from Whites.

    As far as micro-aggressions are concerned, I came up with a phrase that I feel is subtle, yet threatening to the vibrant diversities: “If you think I have micro-aggressions, you should see my macro-aggressions.” I think that would make a good bumper sticker or t-shirt.

  • William Allingham

    first they moved to the now “Latino” areas because back then (when there were mostly whites and few “latinos”) there were more opportunities, since whites left they are moving to whiter areas because again there are more opportunities, nomad opportunities right?

    the more hispanics the less desirable and no wonder since the first thing they are thinking is to impose their food and backward culture, instead of being excited and amused by the new, better things (including food).

    it gets me impatient to find such shamelessness.

  • Elba

    Know what else you don’t find in Maine? Soiled diapers, loose rabid dogs, beggars louts and scam artists in the streets. Also lacking are restaurant workers that do NOT wash their hands before touching food or picking their noses, or obese/disfigured ape women who wear Spandex polyester pants with tops that don’t cover the ugly parts. Does Mrs Diaz also have the lovely frizzy pubic-looking sideburns that most Honduran women have, along with the stumpy legs and barrel shaped stomach and flat butt?

  • Screamin_Ruffed_Grouse

    Silver lining to this cloudy, poorly written tripe: the comments on the original article read almost like a thread on AmRen.

  • Stephen Wordsworth

    I wonder how much the kind of liberals who would sympathize with the authors plight would respond if I complained about the difficulty of finding tomato ketchup in Nepal.

  • Asouthernpartisan

    The one thing that Latinos have in common with every other third world group imported into this country is that they expect you to conform to their language and culture.

    I work as a cowboy chef and what most people don’t realize is that what we call Mexican food is a kind of hybridized version of regional cooking from northern Mexico. We are constantly asked by some of our clients to include real Mexican cuisine in our menu. If we were to do that we’d never cater for them again. Imagine serving up menudo, cabrito, a really bland carne asada, and a Pico with nothing but tomatoes onions and guacamole.

    What they don’t seem to get is that most Mexican barbacoa are simply marinated low quality cuts of meat. From my experience ethnic Latinos who try to open restaurants with their versions of traditional food usually end up as abstract failures.

  • David

    If she resents the white people so much, glad she moved away and gave up her affirmative action job.

  • CalMark

    Any hard evidence of that?