Horrific Claims of Torture Emerge as Soldiers Reveal Gory Kenyan Mall Massacre Details

Paul Bentley, Daily Mail (London), September 27, 2013

Soldiers told of the horrific torture meted out by terrorists in the Nairobi mall massacre yesterday with claims hostages were dismembered, had their eyes gouged out and were left hanging from hooks in the ceiling.

Men were said to have been castrated and had fingers removed with pliers before being blinded and hanged.

Children were found dead in the food court fridges with knives still embedded in their bodies, it was claimed.

Most of the defeated terrorists, meanwhile, were reportedly discovered ‘burnt to ashes’, set alight by the last extremist standing to try to protect their identities.

The horrifying details came yesterday as the first pictures emerged from within the wreckage of the building, showing piles of bodies left strewn across the floor.

A third of the mall was destroyed in the battle between terrorists and Kenyan troops.

Kenya Mall

Lying in the rubble are feared to be the bodies of as many as 71 civilians who have been declared missing by the Kenyan Red Cross.

With detectives, including the FBI and the Metropolitan Police, still unable to reach the wrecked part of the mall for fear of setting off explosives, it could take up to a week to determine exactly who is still inside.

Yesterday, soldiers and doctors who were among the first people into the mall after it was reclaimed on Tuesday, spoke of the horrifying scenes inside.

‘You find people with hooks hanging from the roof,’ said one Kenyan doctor, who asked not to be named.

‘They removed eyes, ears, nose. They get your hand and sharpen it like a pencil then they tell you to write your name with the blood. They drive knives inside a child’s body.

‘Actually if you look at all the bodies, unless those ones that were escaping, fingers are cut by pliers, the noses are ripped by pliers. Here it was pain.’

A soldier, who took pictures at a bread counter and at the ArtCaffe, said he was so traumatised by what he saw he has had to seek counselling.

Bomb disposal experts with sniffer dogs were yesterday painstakingly combing the part of the building still standing for explosives before clearing forensic officers, police and troops to search for bodies.

Images also emerged yesterday revealing the true extent of the destruction caused to the centre during the four-day battle between Kenyan forces and Islamic militants.

The first pictures taken inside the site show a gaping hole in the mall’s roof after three storeys collapsed when Kenyan soldiers fired rocket-propelled grenades inside the complex, knocking out a support column, a government official said.

Children’s buggies are left abandoned just metres from the yawning pit, as cars hang precariously over the edge. Beneath many more vehicles lie on top of each other, smashed to pieces.

The collapse happened on Monday when government troops launched a massive assault on the mall where up to 150 people are thought to have been killed.

During the firefight, hostages reportedly had their throats slashed from ear to ear and were thrown screaming from third-floor balconies as the siege came to a bloody end. Forensics teams, still sifting through the mountains of rubble, fear many more bodies are yet to be found.

Shell-shocked Kenyan troops said the inside of the Israeli-run mall resembled a ‘scene from a horror movie’ with blood spattered everywhere and dead bodies strewn across the floor.

The main thrust of the operation began at 6am on Monday when troops and helicopters surrounded the building, but their efforts were hampered by an Al Shabaab sniper who managed to pin them back for nearly 24 hours.

As tear gas was used to try to flush him out, another terrorist reportedly blew himself up. It is believed the resulting fire may have killed dozens of shoppers in a supermarket.

The following day, the soldiers were ordered to adopt a ‘shoot to kill’ policy and launched their final attack on the terror group on the roof of the mall at 5pm.

The mall was retaken about half an hour later.

Between 10 and 15 terrorists are thought to have stormed the mall on Saturday, according to Kenyan officials.

The police said five insurgents were killed in the battle and at least 10 taken into custody.

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  • Puggg

    Now I hear they’re beefing up security at the Mall of America in Minneapolis, the city that’s home to a lot of these Somalian Muslim cretins we’ve let in here.

    Thanks a big ole heap, open border traitors.

    • WASP

      I fear it’s going to happen here in the US. There are too many of those savages here already.

      • leftists are delusional

        Just a matter of time. If anything I am shocked it has not happened already. I guess the NSA data collection has been that effective, but the muz are now aware and will avoid detection in the future.

        • Boris McGuffin

          Yeah, what happened at this Kenyan mall is something I’ve been anticipating would happen here in the States. Malls are very soft targets.

          They’re easy to scout out beforehand, and the Paul Blarts are of little consequence.

          12 guys with automatic weapons, bombs, and an organized disciplined strategy is all it would take to wreak havoc.

          I would guess that if it ever does happen, it will happen in some place like California where it is very difficult for citizens to get a concealed carry permit.

    • Spartacus

      Instead of whining about it, why not learn from the enemy himself ?

      • Whitetrashgang

        You know I hate to say it, but its like that guy in Norway. If we had more than a few of those it would turn the whole thing around. Its the one off thing that does nothing.

      • Brian

        I thought cartoons were supposed to be funny. This is about the most un-funny thing I’ve ever seen. Thank you for reminding us what is truly at stake.

    • Brian

      We have a bunch of the Somali asylum refugees right next door in Clarkston GA. Got us some of that cultural enrichment down here as well. I hear Lewiston ME is loving theirs too!

      • Sick of it

        Slaughter a pig outside their front door and ensure to cover the entire front of the house in its blood. Leave the carcass so they know.

      • Katherine McChesney

        Nashville, Tn. has it’s Kurdish population and they have violent gangs…..

    • Boris McGuffin


      That’s racist! I would rather such a terror attack happen here in the U.S. than be called a racist, and that’s because I’m a good person. Somali muslims are part of our diversity. We are a nation of immigrants. Diversity is our strength. Barbaric savagery is all a part of the beauty of the intermingling of cultures. That’s part of how we become enriched. I feel guilty if I see too many white people in any one environment. I feel much better if I see the multiracial diversity of diversified diversification. Did I mention that I’m a good person? Self defense is no defense for racist fascist mean person-ness!

  • MekongDelta69

    Endless stories of muslim ‘family values’

    • Oil Can Harry

      Muslim family values = Manson Family values

  • Spartacus

    “…Israeli-run mall…”


    The dark-skins are starting to bark at their masters .

  • WmarkW

    Culture trumps religion.
    This sort of thing is common in Africa, even in places like the Congo and South Africa, where Islam is a small presence.

    • libertarian1234

      That’s what I was thinking too.

      It’s not a Muslim thing, it’s a black thing.

      • pcmustgo

        Wrong, the Koran calls for this kind of torture… And the chechen militias did similar torture in Russia.

        • Sick of it

          Killing all those kids at Beslan…atrocious monsters.

      • Boris McGuffin

        African + Muslim is as Fire + Gasoline.

    • pcmustgo

      The Beslin Massacre featured similar horror.

    • Erasmus

      Islam and being black: Almost as deadly a combination as gasoline and a lighted match.

  • Black cruelty and barbarism.

    Tomorrow’s weather forecast.

    The highlights from all of today’s action with the local teams.

    Film at 11.

  • Talltrees

    And Obama today declared the month of November ‘National Muslim Appreciation Month’.
    Can we take any more of his Muslimification of our country?
    I can’t.

    • In recognition of Muslim Appreciation Month, we will celebrate Veteran’s Day on November 11 with barbecued pork.

      • Boris McGuffin

        I looked that up and it appears to be one of those spoofs from a fake news site. That said, I wouldn’t put it past him.

  • bigone4u

    I am sorry to have to write this, but the world situation is rapidly descending into such chaos and brutality that it seems to be coming down to the idea that we have to kill them before they kill us. The US government, not my government anymore, will be held accountable one day, if you believe in divine justice, as I do.

    • dd121

      Omama want to hold our hand while the muzzies slit our throat.

    • Brian

      Sometimes I look at my grandfather’s Army-issue pocket New Testament, that he carried all over the Pacific, and wonder what has happened to this country in such a short time.

      • Keep Honkin I’m Reloading

        The rise of Fabian Socialists, that’s what.

      • mobilebay

        I too, Brian. My family fought for this country since the Revolutionary War, right down to a grandson who served in Iraq…a history I’m proud of, but also wonder if this is what they fought for. The “Spirit” of this nation is being crushed by those who were elected to protect and defend us.

        • Brian

          I can only imagine what the ‘Spirit of 2076’ will be. I have a feeling I wouldn’t like it much. I wish I could emigrate to a Martian colony and start over. For the time being, I’m trying to relocate from the city to a farm and get more self-sufficient, to ride out whatever storms may come and prepare the next generation.

          • mobilebay

            Good luck to you, Brian. I won’t be around to see the ending of the country I once knew, but I have grandchilden and great-grandchildren who will inherit this “fundamentally changed” nation. I hope they can recover what we knew and loved.

          • Brian

            I hope that my descendants and yours can find each other and provide mutual support in that task of Restoration. It will be a heavy burden for them, but sunlight awaits at the end of a dark tunnel. A country boy can survive.

      • John Ulfsson

        We let in a certain type of refugee from Europe and 20 years later all hell broke lose.

        • gemjunior

          We were warned by Ben Franklin that if we allowed them in our progeny would wake up penniless on the land our forefathers tamed.

          • Erasmus

            Martin Luther, Voltaire and US Grant all also recognized the danger.

          • Sick of it

            Grant was working for them…

      • gemjunior

        It is an absolute phenomenon. The amount of time it’s taken for such an astounding cultural descent to take place is just amazing even if it was masterfully engineered. I’m between utter disgust and reluctant admiration.

        • Sick of it

          It’s easier to destroy civilization than to create it.

      • Erasmus

        Sometimes I look at my grandfather’s Army-issue pocket New Testament, that he carried all over the Pacific, and wonder what has happened to this country in such a short time.

        I come from a family with a long history of military service, and as things now are I do not want anyone I know and love to throw his or her life away fighting for the United States.

        We squander the lives of our men and women in the military and the country’s wealth on decade-long misadventures trying to protect the borders of countries in the Mid-East, when we should be militarily halting the invasion by tens of millions across our southern border.

        Like lefties who think they can correct black failure in schools by throwing more and more money at it, the clowns in Washington squander our wealth on foreign misadventures and leave our own country to rot.

        Islamo-fascism is a danger to this country, but the bigger danger still is our “best” and “brightest” now self-servingly making public policy.

      • Brian

        Here it is:

    • Erasmus

      The US government, not my government anymore,…

      Many of us feel the same. We recognize that the United States now exists in name only.

  • joesolargenius

    They are trying to frighten the non muslims to leave ,especially the Indians as they own a lot of the businesses. This will allow Muslims to take over those markets and thus hopefully prosper, a rather brutal but effective tactic for spreading the wealth. The Muslim version of Hope and Change.

    • Bobbala

      The technical term in the US is “section 8 housing” or “school bussing”.

    • Bantu_Education

      I suspect most of the “Indian” businessmen are already Muslims – that is the way it is in Africa – Indian muslims run the business in E.Africa and Lebanese in W.Africa. They are very adept at corruption and fawning sycophantic parasitism – few white businessmen can stoop that low to compete with them. The blacks and the Indian Muslims truly deserve each other.

  • Stentorian_Commentator

    My guarantee: if I should ever go on a racial or religious rampage, my goal will be to make sure my targets are dead, and move on to the next. No playing with the bodies whatsoever. What kind of sick pieces of excrement want to do that to people? Religion of peace, my backside.

  • Bobbala

    If you are not islamophobic, they are not doing it right.

  • libertarian1234

    “Brutality included castration, removing fingernails with pliers, eye gouging, and dismemberment.”

    Yes, it’s called black methods of negotiation, after which they complained bitterly that the screaming and high pitched shrieks hurt their ears, so they now need reparations for the harm it caused.

    Their claims sound perfectly logical to them, too.

  • JohnEngelman

    Images also emerged yesterday revealing the true extent of the destruction caused to the centre during the four-day battle between Kenyan forces and Islamic militants.

    – Paul Bentley, Daily Mail (London), September 27, 2013

    The Gospel according to St. Matthew 7:16-20 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

  • John R

    Interesting how these details were not mentioned by our own news media. Meanwhile, we are still talking about the bombing of a black church in the South by White racists, OVER FIFTY YEARS AGO! Sadly, I think this is going to have to happen in this country, before most Americans wake up, and demand something more be done. We had 911, Fort Hood, already. What more do we need?

    • Katherine McChesney

      Talk about the South fifty years ago is a boring subject. I have no shame for what occurred here then or 150 years ago. Whites needed to keep themselves safe from blacks and blacks needed jobs. I believe we helped them more than they will admit. Face it, blacks are ingrates.

      • John R

        It’s called “nigritude” I think.

      • Erasmus

        Agreed. I don’t feel a tinge of guilt about Emmet Till, the bombings in Atlanta or even the assassination of MLK.

        I wasn’t there. I didn’t do it. To wail over something one can’t change is nothing but moral self-gratification: Cheap, non-productive, sloppy, leaving you momentarily feeling good, but ultimately making no difference.

  • I’m just reiterating what I reported the other day, but again last night my nightly news had a BBC segment on this news story and not once did show a single image of a Bantu Muslim. This was while cross referencing the 07/07 ‘White widow’ connection showing numerous pictures of her, close ups of her face (and her blue/green eyes) and not one of her dead Bantu terrorist husband or again not one image of the Kenyan terrorists, but there was lots of footage of the Kenyan Bantu hero police and soldiers.
    More media psy-ops in this instance again protecting our ally(?) Militant Islam.
    See attached Syrian rebels picture for another example of our allies.
    Who’s on who’s team is getting too confusing (do we Whites even have a team?).

    • IstvanIN

      If this is true than maybe Assad is guilty of defending his nation against diversity!

      • I think he should have just allowed free elections and perhaps gone back to optometry. The problem is that Mr. Assad is a puppet of the Syrian army.

        • IstvanIN

          Democracy and universal suffrage are not right for all societies.

          • I don’t believe these are right for blacks, but I think Arabs would be OK if not for their religion.

          • Spartacus

            Universal suffrage isn’t right for any society, really …


          • Perhaps, but who decides what the qualifications are? We used to have an outstanding regular poster named Margaret here, who thought women shouldn’t be allowed to vote. If we reserve the franchise to adult men, what property ownership should be required? Would a house owned free-and-clear be the same as one that is mortgaged?

            My complaint against restricting suffrage is that the plutocrats already have more power than is good for Western society.

          • Spartacus

            Who said anything about property ownership ? My vision is that the right to vote only be given to :

            1. Men who have served a military stage and fathered at least 3 children(in wedlock).
            2.Women who gave birth to at least 3 children (also in wedlock, of course) .

            It would be very reasonable requirements, as the important decisions would rest solely in the hands of those who have a direct stake in the future of society(children) and those who are willing to actually defend their nation (military training) .

            Of course, exceptions can be made for those who can’t fulfill the requirements for an objective reason, and could be given other requirements(for example, people who are sterile could adopt) .

          • Bantu_Education

            Well, if you are talking about a country of 300 million and counting (like the USA) or even the 60+ million of the main European states, or even the 20+ million of Australia or even the 5+ million of Scandinavian states, or even the……

            My point being that a qualified democracy could only work – and only be able to be instituted (“Turkeys won’t vote for Xmas”) – in newly-founded autonomous city-states established on long-leased land. These could even, perhaps especially, be established in 3rd-world countries although probably not in Africa since they are liable to not honour the leases. Not for the last time Africa shoots itself in the foot thru greed and envy. But up to 200 years ago there were scores, even hundreds, of such entities in Europe, mostly in E.France, Germany and N.Italy. And surely a good argument can be made that unification was a disaster for Germany and Italy? Unitary states will fail under the weight of all their welfare debts, so even in Europe what I am proposing could easily come to pass sooner rather than later.

      • Re the pictures authenticity, I found it on Reddit so who knows.
        But if true, on one side we have homogeneous, Caucasian Christians then on the other we have the decapitating, totalitarian Muslim brotherhood.
        I vote we stay out of it, but if I had to pick a side, well a picture paints a 1000 words.
        Google “esquire seven-days-with-syrian-rebels” to see who the media backs (not that it’s any mystery, as there’s no ‘diversity’ of opinion in the MSM) , with snippets sympathetic to the ‘Syrian Free Army’ fighters such as “Another, a 36-year-old Iraqi named Abu Muhammad, “is partial to Mariah Carey, the Backstreet Boys, and sad songs about Iraq”, Gold reports”.
        I remember similar quotes about youthful rebels in Egypt and Libya last year “who’re just like us”, playing on their mobile phones, tweeting each other while listening to hip hop. The rest is history.

    • Erasmus

      To me there can be no better argument to end the 12-year long “War on Terror” than that the ponces in DC now want us to militarily support Al-Qai’da, the people who helped bring down The Twin Towers in the first place.

      • Sick of it

        No no, the War on Terror just needs a new focus – The United States government.

    • Gotsumpnferya

      Syrian Rebels , left to right :
      Kenan Thompson (SNL)
      Jr Usama Scout
      Simply Red decided to grow a beard
      Ariel Castro didn’t commit suicide , he’s there !
      John Cleese on his knees
      2011 winner of the Mr Unibrow Universe pageant

  • IKantunderstand

    Who knows what really happened there. We are lied to constantly. It was probably a thousand times worse than they have revealed. But, in the meanwhile, let us welcome these throwbacks from the stone age into our White countries with welcoming arms, because, well, the autocratic governing bodies of our White countries said we should. Question: How many revolutions must White people go through before they are finally free from the reins of oppression? How many? One thing is for sure, no matter what: Believe that the powers that be mean nothing except for the end of White Western Civilization. Miscegenate, or die. Those are the choices they offer. We, can, however, choose to fight back. We all die, in the end. Better to not go softly.

  • Brian

    24 He answered, “I
    was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.” 25 The woman came
    and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said. 26 He
    replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss
    it to their dogs.”

    • Brian

      Why the downvotes? All I’m saying is that even Jesus himself didn’t consider the whole world to be his neighbor, (and the OT definitely had different rules for fellow Hebrews vs. aliens) while many Christians today do take ‘love your neighbor as yourself’ to mean ‘everyone gets everything I have’, to the peril of themselves and their posterity.

      • Erasmus

        Why the downvotes?


        No one’s religion should be a suicide pact.

        • ms_anthro

          Christ brought a message of hope, love, peace, and eternal life to the world. His enemies have perverted it into a death cult. We see the results today.

  • Brian

    What type of activism are you engaged in?

    • Katherine McChesney

      Twenty hours later……*crickets*.

      • Brian

        He must have died fighting while the rest of us were being cowards.

  • Bantu_Education

    Why has the BBC/CNN, etc., been totally silent on this? Is it just the report of one doctor who didn’t want to be named and who has probably now been silenced? I thought it was curious the way the siege ended with no news of the 60 or 70 people supposedly missing. I guarantee this report was quickly suppressed and we will hear no more about this – the “Ministry of Truth” is now in control of the situation.

  • Extropico

    Before you accuse fellow posters of cowardice, perhaps you might regale us with your exploits whereby you risk employment, life and limb for your nation.

  • Joe Sewell

    The whole thing appears to be staged. What about the ‘American Terrorists’ and their ‘White Female Leader’ we’re hearing alot about in the non controlled media?

    • Sick of it

      Apparently she’s still at large with her three Mulatto children.

  • Sick of it

    Since you’re new, you may not realize that some of us do engage in real world activism.

  • 1proactive2

    Reminds me of Detroit.

  • alex

    Do you really know how you will behave in extreme situations?
    There is only one way to find out…

  • Helios Megistos

    Charles Martel is not impressed; nuke Mecca NOW!

  • Fingers torn off with pliers, castration, and blinding seem a bit painful. Rest assured, though, that all death is certain, and it will probably hurt quite a lot. Cancer sure isn’t one of my favorites. The problem there is that the alternatives don’t look like much fun, either.

  • IanJMacDonald

    Ay yes, behold the “religion of peace.”

  • Garrett Brown

    It’s always easy to talk this way until you yourself are face to face with these animals. But I hope for your sake you have your CCW.

  • William Krapek

    Islam is the most evil religion I’ve ever heard of on my life. Muhammad (MHBIHF – May He Burn In Hell Forever) easily beat Charlie Manson for that title.

    But then again we did have the Aztecs.

    • Brian

      And we have Montezuma’s Revenge…er, I mean ‘soon-to-be-documented Amnesty-Americans’.

    • Spartacus

  • RisingReich

    The people studied in your example were German, most likely. You are assuming Somalians have a soul, which they don’t.
    Apples and Oranges.

    • Whitetrashgang

      I support what the Germans did in WW2, in the death camps lots of alcohol for the guards. Actually for the troops as well ,also drugs and as some as you know 10% of the men do 90% of the fighting, its not at all like the movies .

    • Greg Thomas

      Which means it will take even less hate propaganda for members of diversity to strike out against Whites.

  • RisingReich

    These stories make me wonder why God created blacks to begin with.
    They actually embody everything evil.
    What good are they? Everywhere they go comes violence, perversion, and disorder.

  • Boris McGuffin

    I haven’t hear of Protestants doing this but I know that it’s routine for the Catholics.

    If Protestants are doing it, they’re probably of the “social justice” liberal persuasion.

    And of course, Catholics do it because 3rd World Mezzo and South Americans = Catholic influx of a once prosperous Christian nation. Ka-ching, go the Vatican vault keepers.

  • Boris McGuffin


    I’m not sure if you’re projecting or if you’re just presumptuous, but somehow I doubt very much that you have any sort of a handle on just exactly what any of us do about this or that or the other thing.

  • Bantu_Education

    “Africa Addio” is an excellent primer. I’m still waiting for the sequels Africa Addio 2,3,4,5………99,100,101……etc.

    • gemjunior

      It’s a shocking difference from the smiling, smart, helpful police, judges, doctors, and family men we see all over the TV, isn’t it? I found the real footage of Africa Addio much more in line with the true nature of what this species is all about. I don’t believe we are the same species. I know smart, light-skinned mulatto blacks who may be in very prolonged transition to our species but it will take countless mating with whites to make them white – whilst this is happening in the reverse direction en masse – whites mating with blacks. Africa Addio should be required viewing for anyone who has a notion of miscegenation.

    • Sick of it

      Thank you for for the reference. Will be watching that soon.

  • Bantu_Education

    I’m not a religious person and I am remain unconvinced there is a good god out there, but the existence of blacks and their sadistic deeds seems to be compelling evidence for an evil god – the Bible knows him as Satan and Islam is undoubtedly the most “successful” of his many cruel manifestations.

    • Sick of it

      Man’s problems stem from the sins of man. It does amaze me that God gets blamed for things cooked up by the enemies of God.

  • Bobbala

    Heads they win. Tails we lose.

  • I suspect that our team has been usurped and rebranded and now we’re just racially anonymous players in someone else’s game.
    Where we’re told to aspire to be ‘post racial’, but then in the same breath we’re told that various institutions are ‘too White’.
    Some consistency would be less maddening, as they change the rules coming and going, while the pantry is being raided as we scratch our heads.
    By the way cool moniker and avatar.

  • Evette Coutier

    Just like 4th of July in Detroit.

  • Boris McGuffin

    I wonder if these liberal bleeding heart Lutherans are inviting these Somali muslims to live with them in their homes. You know, if Johnny is away at college, for example, you could have a couple of Somali teen gentlemen use his room — right across the hall from their blonde 16 year old daughter.

    But no, of course they don’t do that. They bring this vermin into our country, get to feel good about themselves for a bit, and the rest of us will have to deal with them instead.

  • Brian

    All I can say is who are you to point fingers?

    You are the one pointing a finger at the rest of us. Do you think you are the only one who has suffered from America 2.0? I respect your struggle– I do– but you are not the only one in it.

  • Brian

    My advice to those individuals who look to relocate to a small or even a big farm somewhere is basically that it will not work out when the crunch finally comes. If the mob does not invade you the government of the day will confiscate it from you. I think we have seen enough about what has happened to the family farm in South Africa.

    Whites in America still have far more ‘market penetration’ than those in SA ever did. Yes we are in a demographic spiral here, but it’s possible things will collapse to a point where there isn’t enough of a functioning gov’t to take everything. There are 300 million guns in this country– does that count for nothing? I don’t think that being on a farm is a fireproof solution, but staying in the city amongst the Diversity is definitely a losing proposition. At least out in the hinterlands you have some measure of self-reliance and like-minded, tough neighbors. What is the alternative?

  • 5Sardonicus

    As usual, the MSM avoided the true extent of the horrors perpetuated by the Somali Islamic terrorists. We can be sure if renegade fanatical whites were involved in such an atrocity, Hollywood would go into overtime getting the docudramas ready for prime time television.

  • Bantu_Education

    Just 9-votes for the best individuals is not going far enough – a 100 vote maximum is about the correct ratio and would give sufficient incentive to earn those votes, like being happy and proud to pay a lot of tax. Most of us have no objection to top earners making 100x the salary of the lowest earners, why not in votes too? Only a tiny minority would qualify for that many, an average well-educated person of good character might qualify for 10-20 votes.

    That said, even getting the electorate to allow 2 votes (as in the UK for Oxbridge graduates until 1948 when the Labour govt withdrew it), would be almost impossible to get turkeys to vote for something that doesn’t benefit them. It could only happen in “new countries” – so how to get there? The US economist Paul Romer is trying to promote his “Charter Cities” concept – the basic idea is good but his thinking is flawed – his motive is to help 3rd world people get good governance but really it should be a concept for 1st world people. Anyway at least it is something that is being talked about although not widely as yet. It would just take one and the world would be changed forever.

  • Bantu_Education

    I’m sure they reserved the worst tortures for the whites, of whom there were many. The Mau Mau uprising in the 1950’s (see Africa Addio) was similarly brutal but in several years they only killed about 80 whites at a time when there were maybe 60,000 whites living in Kenya. But Kenyan whites were mostly an upper-class elite and the blacks generally had respect back then.

  • CivilWar2

    Imagine the mindset of your typical white tourist visiting Kenya. Personally, visiting black Africa is right up there on my to do list with vacationing in the Caribbean or spending a holiday in Detroit.

    • libertarian1234

      Or, how about attending one of Calypso Louie’s hate fests as the only white face in the crowd, while he’s screaming hysterically about the white devils?

      • CivilWar2

        Sounds just about as fun, libertarian1234

  • Erasmus

    “…its the Catholic and Protestant charitable organizations that are bringing them in…”

    That alone was a big reason I cut back sharply on what I gave to my parish.

  • Erasmus

    I would to. If I’m going to die, you better believe I’m going to die sending some of those mother f****s to hell on my way.

  • Ezra Pound

    Mossad really did a number here….

  • cablegirls

    And they are not assimilating.

  • Mike Conrad

    “Israeli-run mall”??? That was never mentioned in the U.S. media.