There Is No Such Thing as “A Black Savage.”

American Renaissance, May 30, 2013

[Editor’s Note: The following was contributed by a British reader.]

Spectator columnist Rod Liddle has apologised for referring to the two men accused of the Woolwich terror attack as “black savages”.

He said in a blog this morning: “I was slightly puzzled by the early media reports of the appalling murder in Woolwich and particularly the wrangling over whether or not this could be called ‘a terrorist attack’.

“Does it make much difference? Two black savages hacked a man to death while shouting Allahu Akbar; that’s really all you need to know, isn’t it?

“In a sense calling it an act of terrorism somehow dignifies the barbarism.

“The media will now go into crowd-control mode and tell us how all Muslims are as shocked by this attack as are the rest of us and how Islam is a peaceable religion. No, it isn’t.”

He added: “All credit to the woman police officer who shot the scumbags, although I suspect we will soon have an inquest into why it took the ‘boyden’ (that’s ghetto slang for police, apparently, dear readers) 20 minutes to arrive.”

The article received a barrage of critism, with Liddle described by many as “racist”.

The blog was this afternoon changed to say “two savages” rather than “two black savages”.

Liddle also added the following update: “To avoid the ludicrous phrase ‘men of Muslim appearance’ I originally used the word ‘black’ to describe the appearance of the knifemen. If anyone took that wrong way, I’m very sorry.”

The Press Complaints Commission Editors’ Code of Practice states:

i) The press must avoid prejudicial or pejorative reference to an individual’s race, colour, religion, gender, sexual orientation or to any physical or mental illness or disability.

ii) Details of an individual’s race, colour, religion, sexual orientation, physical or mental illness or disability must be avoided unless genuinely relevant to the story.

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  • Barnaby Sutton

    Black savages murdering whites IS most relevant to the story. It is most relevant for the nation.

    • Alexandra1973

      I believe that was the reason the KKK was first started (the first incarnation), as well as the reason for segregation.

      • APaige

        You are correct. The South was without any protection from Union troops and black behavior.

      • Sick of it

        Specifically, it was to fight the tyrannical federal government and to prevent rapes by black men (agged on by Marxists of course). May not be popular to say, but that was the original idea.

        • dmxinc

          KKK pre-dates Marxism. Marx had written his manifesto in 1848, but there was no significant movement in the US in the post-Civil War period that I am aware of.

          • Sick of it

            Dude, read about the Revolutions of 1848 in Europe. Consider that many of those same people moved to the U.S. afterward and started up newspapers (which they did).

      • Paleoconn

        There was a time when there were more KKK in New England oppressing Catholics than there were in the South lynching blacks.

    • Mr Potato

      ii) Details of an individual’s race, colour, religion, sexual
      orientation, physical or mental illness or disability must be avoided
      unless genuinely relevant to the story.

      So the colour of the attackers is not ‘genuinely relevant’ to the story?
      Then he (Mr Liddle) had to apologise for pointing out that they were ‘black’ and ‘savage’. Extraordinary!

  • Exoplanet Finder

    Someone should inform The Press Complaints Commission Editors that one is either a racist or a moron, and that one cannot be both at the same time.

    • AllSeeingEyeSpy

      racially disparaging whites is almost a job requirement if you’re an educator. .

  • Joe Mack

    Cannibalism is still a problem in Africa,

    And could you ever imagine a white man or white soldier acting like this baboon did?

    • So CAL Snowman

      Sadly yes. What about the White soldiers that fragged Pat Tillman in Afghanistan? What about the soldiers in Iraq who have been convicted of rape and murder of civilians? What about our boys in Vietnam during the My Lai Massacre? What about the No Gun Ri Massacre during the Korean war?

      • AutomaticSlim

        While the Tillman incident seems to have been a gross case of incompetence, I hardly believe he was shot on purpose. I have to think the guys that shot him were and still are quite sick over that.

        I do agree with you regarding the Iraq rapes and My Lai, however.

        • StillModerated

          Don’t be so cock-sure about My Lai. I know many veterans of that waste of time who shot 12 year old girls pointing guns at them. They also shot kids charging them with explosive vests (the Arabs do the same thing). Read the book Incident at Muc Wa, or watch the film adaptation; Go Tell The Spartans. Personally, I believe Lt. Calley was railroaded for following orders given by a general who was nowhere to be found when the fit hit the shan. My Lai was an armed VC camp and got what was coming.

          • AutomaticSlim

            Well, you may be right regarding the shootings, but I was referring to the rapes that supposedly occurred there. Is it your contention that these rapes did not happen?

          • AllSeeingEyeSpy

            actually, the race-realist view of the Mai Lai massacre was that the massacre was done almost solely by black troops, although this fact of the massacre was air brushed out of the news coverage with the incident being used to incite hatred of whites or american society in general.

          • LaSantaHermandad

            All one needs to do is the check on the number of rapes of Japanese women and girls on Okinawa. Most if not all of the rapists were Black “soldiers”.

          • Morris LeChat

            The same concerning the rapes of French women by AMerican soldiers in France. Off the top of my head I think out of 51 rapes, 50 were committed by negroes

          • Gerónimo Anónimo

            Yes. And Emmet Till’s father was executed for the rape and murder of, I believe, two young women in Italy.

          • Luis

            Correct!! Oh, but you’ll NEVER hear anything about that from Bantus.

          • OlderWoman

            It was blacks.

            My uncle was stationed in Germany. He said White soldiers interviewed German women before asking them for dates. If they counted “One, Two, Three, Fo” they knew that they had dated black Americans. Needless to say White soldiers avoided those women.

          • LaSantaHermandad

            I also agree about My Lai and Iraq rapes. We are supposed to be better than our enemies.As
            for Vietnam, we had no damned business being there in the first place.
            The whole thing was fought over a supposed naval attack that never
            really happened.

          • Brutus

            Gulf of Tonkin was the formal justification for the war, but Vietnam was also a part of the Cold War, and containment of Communism. Who knows how many other countries, teetering on the edge of going Communist, were deterred from doing so by American willingness to fight in Vietnam?

            I just wish that when we go to war we would tell everyone the actual reason. If it’s about containing Communism, say so. If it’s about oil, say so. If it’s about protecting the status of the Dollar as the world reserve currency, say so. Such a policy won’t make us any more hated than using fake justifications that “sound good,” and would make our expectations clearer.

      • Jotun Hunter

        ah the spurious equivalency arguments — those things are all completely different – regardless of how true they actually are (is any of it captured on video like woolwich?) — all your examples are taken from scenarios of war – soldiers in our armies engaged in a wars in iraq, vietnam, etc. To be comparable you would need to be talking about a white westerner who was born in iraq, raised amongst them, spoke the language etc – then became ‘radicalized’ in his adulthood and decided to randomly butcher innocent iraqis in the street in the name of jesus or george bush or something.

  • Tim_in_Indiana

    This is why we whites have lost our rights of free speech: we have allowed ourselves to be muzzled by political correctness. This is not a new phenomenon either; it’s been this way for half a century, and I see no signs of things getting better, only worse.

    • evilsandmich

      The wording actually sounded rather benign, like “savages who happened to be black”. I guess though at this point that everyone sees it as a double statement (black=savage/savage=black); why else the outrage?

  • Sloppo

    Perhaps it would be better to say “bantu savages” because some people wouldn’t immediately know what it meant and they would get to learn a new word. 🙂

    • eduard

      In mandelatopia we refer to them as third world savages. Very appropiate is to call them “uncrowned beasts of the field”. They are virtually the only bipeds without a crown on that peppercorn head. You can also call them mr Fir, mr K A Fir. In mandelatopia you are not allowed to use the “kaffir” word, so we also use K4.

  • “There is no such thing as a black savage”

    Unless you have eyes, ears and a functional brain.

    Incidentally, we had two major events recently, the London Beheading and the Stockholm Car-B-Ques, which were both carried out by black Muslims. However, I think they differ in that the proximate causation (“but for”) for London was religion/Islam (the perp bragged about it in front of cameras), while what happened in Stockholm were fundamentally race riots. Blacks rioting over a police-black confrontation, which is what happened in Stockholm, happens not too infrequently in America, and most American blacks aren’t Muslim, ergo race is the proximate causation.

    • AutomaticSlim


      Just take a walk in Harlem or Bed Stuy or Newark, etc..
      They are very easy to find if one happens to be looking for them.

    • Freey’all

      After reading for days on Stockholm, I still didn’t fully catch that the muslims rioting there were predominantly black.

      I wonder how the ‘asian’ muslims feel about the black ones.

    • LaSantaHermandad

      How about Paris. Two soldiers stabbed in the throat in two or three days.

  • [Guest]

    >>>i) The press must avoid prejudicial or pejorative reference to an individual’s race, colour, religion, gender, sexual orientation or to any physical or mental illness or disability.

    >>>ii) Details of an individual’s race, colour, religion, sexual orientation, physical or mental illness or disability must be avoided unless genuinely relevant to the story.

    Rewrite for accuracy:

    i) The press must avoid all references to race that do not either elevate browns and blacks or demean white people, references to gender that do not elevate females and those of questionable gender or demean males, references to sexual orientation that don’t elevate deviants and portray normal people as ogres, references to physical and mental abilities unless doing so serves one or more of the favored groups.

    ii) Details of an individual’s race, colour, religion, sexual orientation, physical or mental illness or disability must be used as weapons against white people, Christians, and people who are sexually, physically, and mentally normal.

    • The__Bobster

      The allegations by leftists and minorities that the riots by “youths” in Sweden are due to “institutional racism” shows that no matter how much Whites give to such people, enough will never be enough.

      The editor-in-chief of the Swedish tabloid Expressen has already admitted that the rumored practice of “white pixelization”—coloring the brown or black pixels of accused criminals white in media pictures—had been policy for years, until he said it would stop in 2010. See Lilla Saltsjöbadsavtalet

      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      Lilla Saltsjöbadsavtalet is an alleged meeting which is claimed to have occurred at Saltsjöbaden on 21 March 1987, with participants from the “Swedish Journalist Association” (Svenska journalistklubben). In 2007 and 2008, information about the supposed meeting was revealed, where it was said that the participating journalists agreed to follow certain “recommendations”:[1]

      Preferably positively assess and paraphrase Swedish citizens of foreign origin, particularly in the context of youth, sports and artistic activities.

      For events with an element of diverse cultures preferably interview and visually highlight participants of foreign origin.

      During a period of five years, systematically tone down the negative effects criminal activity designated by certain races might have on affected populations. (The five-year period is said to further have been extended up to the present day.)

  • Seek

    He had it right the first time. Blacks, most of them anyway, are savages.

  • David Ashton

    Their “blackness” was not irrelevant to the story, nor in all probability to their own subjective motivation.

  • The__Bobster

    He added: “All credit to the woman police officer who shot the scumbags, although I suspect we will soon have an inquest into why it took the ‘boyden’ (that’s ghetto slang for police, apparently, dear readers) 20 minutes to arrive.”


    A woman shot the black savages, and two British women protected Rigby’s dying body until the police could arrive. Doesn’t the UK have any real men anymore?

  • blindsticks

    The blog was this afternoon changed to say “two savages” rather than “two black savages”.

    Liddle also added the following update: “To avoid the ludicrous phrase ‘men of Muslim appearance’ I originally used the word ‘black’ to describe the appearance of the knifemen. If anyone took that wrong way, I’m very sorry.”

    He was being sarcastic:
    BBC political editor Nick Robinson’s extraordinary apology after ……/BBC-political-editor-Nick-Robinsons-extraordinar...
    May 23, 2013 – On air I directly quoted a senior Whitehall source saying that the police had used … ‘That phrase “of Muslim appearance” clearly offended some who … Tigra on the pavement before two crazed men attacked him with knives.

    Rod Liddle has also used the term ‘savages’ to describe Muslims Before now.
    Oh, for a few more Rod Liddles ‘…

    Muslim savages update » Spectator Blogs‎
    Nov 19, 2009 – Time for a quick update on what the Muslim savages are up to. Here’s a story from today’s Daily Mail, with a cut-out-keep picture, of Somali

    • StillModerated

      It’s been 404-ed!

      • LaSantaHermandad

        That site is no longer available. Cowardly BASTARDS!!!

      • blindsticks

        Just cut and paste the header and Google.

        And like I said he uses sarcasm a lot. Hence the very last paragraph.

        Muslim savages update

        139 comments Rod Liddle 19 November 2009 14:06

        Time for a quick update on what the Muslim savages are up to. Here’s a story from today’s Daily Mail, with a cut-out-keep picture, of Somali Muslim savages stoning to a twenty year old woman for the crime of adultery.
        Last year they killed a thirteen year old girl in a similar fashion; seven Muslim states stone women to death for adultery, and they will even provide the stones for you, which is thoughtful. Eleven will chop your head off if you renounce the Muslim faith. The overwhelming majority of Islamic states will either kill you, send you to work in a labour camp, put you in prison or fine you if you are gay. Bugger someone adulterously in Somalia while calling a Mohammed a gimp and you’re REALLY in trouble, I suppose. I know you know all this, but it is worth reminding ourselves of it from time to time.

        Incidentally, many Somalis have come to Britain as immigrants recently, where they are widely admired for their strong work ethic, respect for the law and keen, piercing, intelligence.

    • David Ashton

      If he had said “colored gentlemen” instead of “black savages” an even more illuminating outbreak of faked denunciation would have occurred. Old Liddle has a sarcastic sense of humor, but he missed this opportunity.

  • StillModerated

    So, there is no such thing as a “black savage,” eh? Is that because it’s an oxymoron? From now on I’ll use the word purple instead.

  • MikeS

    “There is No Such Thing as A Black Savage.”
    Now there’s a redundant statement if I ever heard one.

  • AnonymousTruther

    If a savage is not someone who butchers an innocent human in broad daylight in public, then what is it? And he was black. Thus, black savage. Problem? I don’t see any.


    They’re all savages

    • e2657383

      I expect that kind of comment from SF, not from amren.

  • a multiracial individual

    There is no savage or civilized guys! Come on!

    Japanese engineer, Somali pirate, eh… same thing.

  • David Brims

    Well, he was black, and it was savage what he did, beheading the soldier and all, thus, he’s a black savage.

    • itdoesnotmatter

      As the perp’s skin color is black, he screamed, “Allahu Akbar,” during commission of an inconceivably savage act, then delivered a muslim sermon for the world to see, one might correctly conclude he subscribes to that ideology. Ergo, black muslim savage is perfectly correct. An apology is superfluous.

  • IstvanIN

    Should we describe them as nifty fellows?

  • bubo

    Keep apologizing white man. See where it gets you.

  • mrcan

    his article is a worse crime than the actions of the black sav…err I mean British born Muslim men. He should be sent to a politically correct thought camp, and bunked with a 300lb black homosexual where he can be thoroughly enlightened in modern political correctness. and when allowed back to work he/she now more in touch with her/his feminine side can wear a dress.

  • bigone4u

    Freedom of speech must be suppressed where there is race mixing intended to eliminate white people and culture. Britain and Europe are well along in the process. The US uses shaming and job loss to achieve the same end. From the perspective of the power elites, too many of us are unashamed because we are race realists and we are growing in number.

  • KenelmDigby

    You have to remember that the print media is rapidly declining and soon will go extinct.
    The future is internet punditry, where free expression, (for now at least), still reigns.
    Sadly, it will probably be only a matter of time before Britain’s politicians start to censor on-line content. They’ve already made a start from summarily arresting twitter-users who had the temerity to utter forbidden words.
    The BBC never, ever misses an opportunity to pontificate about how the Chinese ‘control’ their internet and social media. The state censorship in the UK is more savage and unjust.

  • KenelmDigby

    Lest we forget, blacks ARE savages.
    Bfore being imported into western nations, 200 years or so ago, they were the children of savages and the descendants of savages going back thousands and thousands of years. That’s how they lived – they had no other life despite the lies certain people feed you.
    Do you really think that the thin venner of civility they put on when living amongst us really count for anything against millenia of savage life?

  • Sherman_McCoy

    “Black” and “savage.”

    No need to repeat yourself.

    • loyalwhitebriton

      I like you Sherman. Are you on Facebook? I have a small and selective group of friends. Like-minded individuals, and all that. My facebook profile is nor the same as my disqus profile. I’ll try the ‘share’ option, to see if you’re there. God bless.

  • reveal1914

    “There is no such thing as a black savage” What would you call this then.

    The Cannibal Warlords of Liberia (Full Length Documentary)

  • Basketeddie

    I especially love his apology. In other words, F…. You!! I wish we had journalists like this in the US.

  • Terry

    The incident at Woolwich was a staged event. Nobody was killed or injured. It was fake. There is much to prove this.

  • LaSantaHermandad

    First of all “Black Savage” IS wrong and Mr. Liddle SHOULD apologize for that unforgivable redundancy.
    Secondly that police woman should have continued to shoot the “redundancies” until she heard their final exhalation.

  • Frank Wheeler

    Don’t you love the bizarro universe of multiculturalism where everything is a fantasy? The two culprits in this ghastly crime were both black and savage, but to say so is offensive? I know that I am preaching to the choir in this forum, but I am so sick and tired of this multiculti nonsense where a person is not allowed to call a thing for what it is. In this crazy f***ed up world Wrong has just as much a right a seat at the table as does Right. Maybe I am naive, but I do have a faith in the marketplace if ideas and the social cancer known as multiculturalism will evaporate. One can only hope.

    • LaSantaHermandad

      Would anyone in his/ her right mind lodgers welcome into their homes and then tolerate constant hostility and violence from said lodgers against one’s family members? Would they have sexual Carte Blanche penetrate the female family members?
      We have become a society in which we look the other way so long as nothing is happening to us personally. Nobody ” wants any trouble”.
      Every time we ignore atrocities, we perpetuate them.


    They’re all savages

    • LaSantaHermandad

      Yes they are JJ. There MAY be some exceptions but it’s really not worth the risk to try sorting them out. Even the “nice” ones are susceptible to the “primal call”.
      They have no ability to reason things out and consider the consequences to themselves and those to whom they victimize. There is no ability to control their bestial impulses ergo, they belong back from whence they came.

  • Erasmus

    No such thing as a black savage, yet a congressman from Chicongo refers to a Senator from Illinois as a white boy. Sorry, if a brother can use the term white boy disparagingly, then using the term black savage is perfectly acceptable.

    • LaSantaHermandad

      We have been brow beaten and indoctrinated with revisionist history and undeserved guilt for the last 70 years until we’ve been reduced to nothing more than a race of pusillanimous pussies (sorry but it’s the only word that accurately describes the model of the 21st Century White male.) Sooner or later the “pussy” will morph into a tiger and there will be a reckoning. The question is when is the threshold going to be reached?

    • OlderWoman

      And that would be Bobby “Hoodie” Rush. Notorious for being on gangbangers payroll. Read Second City Cop for that information.

  • thoughtcrime1933

    I agree with the change…the words black and savage are interchangeable in my opinion.
    Like the word subhuman and negro or youth and criminal….either way the truth is spoken.

  • AllSeeingEyeSpy

    No one apologizes to us when we’re called ‘knuckledraggers’. In fact, they are proud of their ability to slander us.

  • anarchyst

    You can take the bantu out of the jungle but you can’t take the jungle out of the bantu . . .
    Enough said . . .

  • Bill

    ¨Black savage¨ is redundant. All one has to say is he was black, everyone will automatically know you´re talking about a savage.

  • Paleoconn

    By saying ‘black savages’ the implication can be that there are both black and non-black savages. Also, that there are both black savages and black non-savages. This is probably the least racist way to describe the savages.

    Just saying ‘savages’ may be interpreted as them all being savages.

  • Gereng

    Oh? No such thing as black savages? I disagree. I worked in black Africa for more than 6 yrs and examples of animal-like savagery were everywhere and everyday in evidence. I witnessed the aftermath of these horrors because of the nature of my work. Anyone in the West he thinks black Africans are not still savages is an ignoramus.