Detroit Tops 2013 List of America’s Most Miserable Cities

Kurt Badenhausen, Forbes, February 21, 2013

Forbes put Detroit Mayor Dave Bing on its cover in 2011 for a story with the optimistic headline: “City of Hope.” The premise was that the city had hit rock bottom and was poised for a turnaround.

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Two years later, Detroit’s problems continue to multiply, sadly. It is still dealing with high levels of violent crime and unemployment. Home prices, already at historic lows, plummeted a further 35% during the past three years to a median of $40,000 as net migration out of the city continued.

The latest blow was Tuesday’s announcement that the city is on the verge of being taken over by the state. Detroit is in a financial emergency and cannot pay its bills. The city has been issuing debt to fund day-to-day operations. The continuing problems propelled Detroit to the top spot in our 2013 ranking of America’s Most Miserable Cities.

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Our look at misery is more localized, and includes unemployment, as well as other things that aggravate people.

This year we examined nine factors for the 200 largest metro areas in the U.S. The metrics include the serious: violent crime, unemployment, foreclosures, taxes (income and property) and home prices. We also include less weighty, but still important quality-of-life issues like commute times and weather.

We tweaked the methodology in this year’s list in response to feedback from readers, dropping our rankings of both pro sports team success and political corruption, since both were based on regional, rather than city-specific data. We also added a new measure—net migration—which we see as a clear gauge of whether or not residents feel a community is worth living in. Detroit, which ranked No. 2 last year, also would have finished No. 1 under the previous methodology (click here for more details about the criteria for the list).

Detroit’s problems are hardly new. It has been in a four-decade decline, paralleling the slide of the U.S. auto industry. The city’s debt rating was cut to junk by Moody’s Investors Service in 1992, but declining tax revenues from a shrinking city will soon make Detroit a ward of the state.

Violent crime in the Detroit metro division was down 5% in 2011, but it remains the highest in the country with 1,052 violent crimes per 100,000 people, according to the FBI. {snip}

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The problems of No. 2-ranked Flint, Mich. mirror those of Detroit. Like Detroit, Flint has been demolishing homes as the city shrinks, with residents leaving in search of jobs. Only Detroit has a higher net migration rate among the 200 largest U.S. metros. Unemployment has averaged 11.3% in Flint the past three years and it ranks third worst for violent crime behind just Detroit and Memphis, Tenn.

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Two cities on our list, Chicago (No. 4) and New York (No. 10) may surprise readers, though they’ve been here before. Both offer a myriad of opportunities and positives as the homes of financial centers, world-class culture, leading universities, sports teams galore and high-end restaurants. But it isn’t easy living in either city, particularly if you don’t earn a lot of money (even if you do it can be tough).

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  • MekongDelta69

    Except for the cities which are on the list b/c of long traffic commutes or bad weather (and things like that), take a wild guess as to what they ALL have in common?!

    Aww, go ahead. You won’t be wrong….

    • Ed_NY

      Don’t tell me now, just give me some time to think about it.

    • [Guest]

      Could it be lower-than-average winter temperatures combined with potentially uncomfortable windchill factors?

    • Katherine McChesney

      Democrats.

    • StillModerated

      They all have a Martin Looter King Boulevard?

  • Eagle_Eyed

    It was interesting to read the comments section of this on National Review. Of course it was the fault of Democrats and “corruption”–as if these aspects weren’t based on a deeper truism regarding demography.

    • SintiriNikos

      Check the Detroit in Ruins video on this site. The intellectually dishonest neocon narrator blames the liberals and even selectively chooses White mayor Tom Cavanagh among a list of (what we know are) black mayors who followed as the main culprit. Cavanagh was lousy, but the guys who followed make him look like Giuliani.

      • Luis

        Actually, it was mayor Jerome Cavanaugh, NOT “Tom Cavanagh”. The Detroit riots of 1967 exposed him as an impotent eunuch regarding his reaction to what was happening.

        But you’re right about the phoney-baloney narrator blaming Democrats and unions for Detroit’s collapse.Not a peep about race.

        Sudden thought: now that Michigan repealed its “closed-shop” ways, and become a “right to work” state, let’s see if that will help Detroit rebound. After all, wasn’t it liberals AND conservatives who blamed the unions for Detroit’s demise? Sionce unions no longer hold sway the way they once did, everyone who wants to work in Detroit will find a job, right?

        I wouldn’t make book on it, paisan. Pigs will fly and Kim Kardashian will turn down sex from a Bantu, before that happens.

        • SintiriNikos

          and I even butchered the last name. thanks for the correction. I agree with your last point, this is if nothing else should prove that it was race rather than unions that created the current state of affairs in Motown.

    • Melanie

      National Review is a neo-con rag. They made their stance crystal clear when they fired Derbyshire for speaking “hate facts”. That man said nothing but the truth, using statistics, and not one “hateful” word in his article, but the scared little rabbits fired him with a quickness. They are well-indoctrinated there, and kiss their masters’ azzes wirhout being forced. Thank God men like John Derbyshire exist, they are few and far between these days-willing to speak the truth and pay the price.

      • BonusGift

        Net, net, at this point in time, the ‘Derb’ is a plus; but he hardly speaks the whole truth about race or group realities. For example, the very neo-cons you mention are not singled out as a primary driver (i.e., the larger tribal group that most belong to) of pushing the utopian meme that we are all equal and it’s just that the party of stupid that needs to reach out to the poor little misunderstood negroes then all will be fine. That is, keep ignoring and/or pooping on Europeans and “reaching out” to blacks and hispanics and all will be fine. Specifically, they view Detroit as a failure of
        the party of evil’s politics (which, by the way, like the Republican Party is also dominated by the their tribe as well) not inherent differences between groups of humans. Anyway, the Derb, while not of the tribe, loves and/or fears the tribe, and instinctually will not cross the Rubicon to full awareness, as is the case with so many that seem to at least outwardly march happily to their children’s and their own oblivion while paying for the various joys of racial suicide (like watching Detroit go from the “Paris of the West” to just another black hellhole on Earth).

        • Melanie

          I still give him much credit for this reason-there just aren’t many people out there now willing to publicly state any part of the truth, and take the consequences to their careers, social ostracisation, etc. We all come here and to various other race realism sites and comment, debate, discuss, but as far as I know, none of us are public figures making a livelihood for publicly editorializing. Derbyshire (Jared Taylor, and a few others) have been willing to speak out publicly at the cost to the careers they might have had. In these days when a politician’s career can be ruined for saying “macaca”, when a man can be fired for using the word “niggardly” in its proper context, deliberately speaking any of the truth, even just “hate facts” (statistics) takes a lot of guts, integrity, courage, and willingness to take the consequences. We are so used to the self-censorship in our daily lives at work, school, etc, it can be easy to forget just what the full force of government and society can do to a person who deliberately decides to speak the truth-any part of the truth-without fear. He becomes the nail sticking up which must be hammered.

      • Cherry Bomb

        National Review was a neo-con rag long before it gave Derb the boot. Ask Peter Brimelow how and why National Review purged him in 1997:

        http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/04/is-the-purge-at-national-review-complete-john-osullivan-may-be-next/

        • Melanie

          Thanks for the link-going now to read and learn

    • toldev

      The problem with many mainstream conservatives is that they have come around to the liberal way of thinking. That being that the government can fix any problem. Those conservatives think that if liberal policies are replaced with conservative policies, black failure will be fixed and everything will be rainbows and unicorns from now on.

  • http://twitter.com/AgentAxis D.B. Cooper

    Good lord. I would like at least ONE republican to bring up this topic publicly.
    This is yet another of those articles I read about every week. Do they just keep a template where all you have to do is fill in today’s date?
    Why do I get the feeling I’m going to be reading this exact same article in February 2014?
    Helloooo, GOP? Hello? My vote is for the taking, and you only need 1% of the effort you’re putting into attracting just one black or latino vote. Ignore me, and you will find the democrats will be getting this hard core right winger’s vote.

    • JackKrak

      Agreed. If just one Republican-controlled state had an unemployment rate that was 0.2% higher than the national average, the Democratic mothership would make sure that every talking head blabbed about nothing else for weeks.

    • brengunn

      Do they just keep a template where all you have to do is fill in today’s date?
      Why do I get the feeling I’m going to be reading this exact same article in February 2014?

      Just give them the life time achievement award!

    • a multiracial individual

      My conservative friends assure me that it is “liberal leadership” that ruined Detroit.

      • Nathanwartooth

        I just heard this tripe on Rush today.

        Blacks and browns only elect Democrats. So, duh?

        • a multiracial individual

          Everyone knows that liberal Portland and Seattle are irredeemable hell holes.

    • GeneticsareDestiny

      It’s like living in a world where each day is a repeat of the last. You hear the same stories, read the same articles, hear the same excuses, day after day, month after month, year after year. This time next year we will probably still be reading about Detroit’s failure, the knockout game, malls being overrun with “youths,” failing schools, illegal immigration, etc. It never changes.

      • BonusGift

        It’s a kind of cultural Marxist inspired groundhog day where only sane European Americans are forced to watch in horror as the same mistakes are repeated but with the added twist that they get worse each year that passes. The analogy is the Soviet Union and its Marxist inspired economy where as things got worse the difference between the media’s reports and reality grew until the economy slowly but surely sank into a deep dark hole and reality was all around. Collapse itself was a slow process with periodic events to mark the march of reality. Most likely the best sign that things are collapsing are to watch what the tribe of people that control our media, finance, and national politicians will do as their brothers and sister tribe members did in the Soviet Union, namely get out of Dodge and head to Israel (in the case of the Soviet Union they headed to the U.S. and other European countries as well, but this time I suspect that would likely be a non-starter as those outlets are largely gone). Where will the likes of AIPAC go I wonder after that?

      • Pelayo

        “It’s like living in a world where each day is a repeat of the last.”
        It’s Ground Hog day!!!
        I’m digging out my copy of Sonny and Cher’s ” I got you Babe”.

  • Jefferson

    Today on “The Five”, Greg Gutfeld only blamed Democrats on the downfall of Detroit. Not once did he put equal blame on Detroit’s racial demographics.

    Detroit is one of the Blackest cities outside of Sub Saharan Africa. So of course it was bound to fail. The writing was on the wall.

    • The__Bobster

      But wasn’t it once 98% White?

      What the hell happened? Oh, yeah, the great migration and the giant sucking sound.

    • Ed_NY

      If Greg Gutfeld spoke the truth, he would land on the unemployment line next week.

      • Jefferson

        Sad but true. In this increasingly left of center nation called America, freedom of speech does not apply to non liberal White people.

        • Glickstein44

          Freedom of speech does not apply to tyrants on the left or the right or even in the middle.

          • Cherry Bomb

            Freedom of Speech does not apply to Whites who venture outside of the media’s strict PC code.

          • Glickstein44

            Thats true…but lets be honest…everyone bears somewhat a personal PC code as well…does not this site have a certain Free Speech Code as well? Certain rules and regulations are applied? Wander from those “boundaries” and your smitten? Perhaps i am wrong and i apoligize.

          • Cherry Bomb

            Yes, you are correct. I learned the parameters of this site by having many of my posts deleted.

          • Glickstein44

            And so it is with Whites in the real world who go along to get along making sure they they dont go outside the lines of of media’s strict PC code.To play we must pay regardless if that hurts our self-esteem,honor and integrity.Its a sick sick sick world.

          • Ed_NY

            I too have had many posts deleted. In fact I censor myself now and try to write posts that will not get deleted but it still happens. I wish a moderator would explain their censorship so I know where I went wrong.

          • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

            You know, I carry on many arguments on CNN posting boards. It’s pretty easy to log in and post. I do get many deleted eventually, but not before I get lots of reaction. But a while back when I tried to log onto FOX News to comment, I found it impossible to do, They had a vetting protocol that you had to navigate successfully in order to post even once. What I found was that FOX was even more afraid of Free Speech.

          • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

            True. Both sides have their own word codes and buzz words. The trick and the honest path it to be objective with the clear goal of white survival in mind. When this is done, a great deal of conservative baggage must also be jettisoned.

          • Ed_NY

            As a retired NY state employee, I know too well the oppression and discrimination of any White who dare publicly comment or criticize the state of minority affairs.

      • Don in PA

        Agreed. Just watched the same episode of the five. He/they are either willfully ignorant, blissfully unaware, in a complete state of denial OR, they know the truth but dare not say what is so obvious to ANYONE that can “see”. George Orwell would be impressed at the level of self induced oppression that we had enacted upon ourselves.. 2+2=5!.. May our descendants curse us for our cowardess.

        • LaSantaHermandad

          I go with the part after OR. There are more people than you can imagine who feel the same way that we do but they cower when their livelihood is at risk. Let’s pray that some day they realize that their lives are more important than their livelihood.

          There are lots of FEMA interment camps out there and their for US.

          • LaSantaHermandad

            “There are lots of FEMA interment camps out there and their for US.
            I suffer from accute OCD and I can’t let that error stand.
            “……….and THEY’RE for US”

        • AugustusAlexander

          I defenately think Greg and most of them are “aware” but they sure as hell cant say it or it will cost them their job and and a stupid ass public apology.

      • zanegray

        In a time of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

        George Orwell

        • Mike Lane

          I learned that the hard way at a young age. Wouldn’t take any of it back.

      • Will White

        He would be out in no time.I think its time for JT to go on the factor!Bill say’s its the no spin zone,so why not bring him on?The new black panthers have been on.Lets all push for it,and make it happen!It’s a big audience.

        • mobilebay

          Sorry, Will. Although O’Reilly mouths the “we must secure the border” platitude they all say, he is for some sort of amnesty for those who’ve made it to Santa land, so he would out shout and cut short anyone who tried to explain what mass illegal immigration is doing to our country. He’s says that for Lent, he tries to do a kindness each day. It would be a kindness if he ever let anyone finish a sentence. I think too that even if the Pope came on, O’Reilly would lecture him on Canon Law!

        • Dave4088

          I doubt O’really (sic) would ever have JT on. When David Duke was on some years ago all Mr. no spin zone did was shout, lecture, insult and hyperventilate. O’Reilly shows more respect to a liar and anti-white bigot like Al Sharpton than he ever would to a law abiding and classy white racialist.

          So much for FAUX News being in our corner.

          • Will White

            true,but we need non jew hating white realists on tv somehow.they should at least let colin Flaherty on to talk about white girl bleed a lot.the state of white America is about as horrible as it gets.only a few of us seem to be awake.VERY SAD!

          • Glickstein44

            Hey,its their show after all…Rupert Murdoch pays their wages…they are just following the guidelines of their boss.

          • Cherry Bomb

            O’Reilly knows and is beholden to those who sign his checks. “Ditto” for Rush Limbaugh.

      • mobilebay

        Ed – You’re right, of course. I foolishly watch the one channel that is anywhere near being conservative and talk back to the talking heads, encouraging them to speak out against the pitfalls of illegal immigration. I’ve decided, however, this is a topic that if discussed, with all its attending ills, the TV would explode. This is the big secret that no one will speak of, except to say how wonderful it is that we have been invaded. I recall the days when our leaders fought against the enemy. Little did I think we’d ever have administrations who welcomed them.

    • Sherman_McCoy

      Well, since Blacks are almost exclusively Dems, he is technically correct. I know of whom he’s speaking.

    • Funruffian

      Greg Gutfeld knows damn well that Blacks are the cause of urban blight and ruin. He knows that it would cost him his job if he uttered such truth. He may be a sellout, but he knows where his bread is buttered also.

    • Commonsense80

      In a sane world there would be at least a weekly 5 on Fox or some other network consisting of Jared Taylor, Derbyshire, and other all stars of the truth movement.

      • GerónimoAnónimo

        They really should can Bob Beckel. No one on our side really wants to hear what he has to say.

    • whiteuncleruckus

      To be fair to Gutfeld, had he told the truth about Detroit’s racial problems, he wouldn’t have a job anymore, nor would he ever work on television again. Even “conservative” Fox News must tow the politcally correct line.

    • Johnny Clay

      I think people understood what Gutfeld meant. He said it without saying it, if you catch my drift.

      • LasantaHermandad

        I really like Greg Gutfeld. I was actually surprised that his views are to the right.

    • Mike Lane

      It’s interesting you mention that. Even a “right wing station” like Fox refuses to honestly discuss race. Big mistake. Compromise only leads to demise in cases like this. That’s what you get when conservative Americans confuse neocons with the REAL political right.

    • John

      I want to explore more of the Detroit collapse and the role that Blacks and White egalitarians played in the disaster; a disaster which is plaguing hundreds of other North American cities as we speak. Likewise, 1000s of other towns and cities are also growing sicker by the day, as they suffer from the dibilitating and deleterious effects associated with the presence of undesirables.

      To that end, I am in the early stages of writing a new book. The working title is “The Affirmative Action Disaster: 1000 affirmative action episodes that crippled America”. In the book, I plan to detail 1000 highly-newsworthy events that were typically minimized or completely ignored by the Marxist/egalitarian mass media. Everything from Cleveland openly discarding policemen and firemen tests simply to hire waves of unqualified Blacks, to the the mass media outright lying about Mr. Zimmerman’s race (he’s actually mostly Mestizo and part Black, yet they claimed he is White), to the waves of Black criminals in the U.S. and state governments, to the illegal alien crisis.

      We sorely need to chronicle all of these events before the stories are washed over by time and open discussion about these crimes is outlawed.

      Whites have been deeply wronged in countless ways over the decades, and it is time the story was concatenated and exposed. I will be a deeply hated man by the egaliatrians and multiculturalists when the book is published, but I am fine with that. It’s a badge of honor I shall wear with pride.

      • Ed_NY

        I look forward to reading your work. Good luck!

    • AugustusAlexander

      I like Greg, many of times have i heard him incenuate racial things and i absolutely love it. Most people in the media will not touch a generalization with a ten foot pole unless you are part of one of the acceptable groups.

  • Ed_NY

    Bob Beckel, the liberal on Fox News was trying to put the leftist party line spin on this article tonight on “The Five”. Of course it is not the fault of those who run Detroit but rather the fault of the economy and everbody else.

  • SintiriNikos

    Detroit finds new rock bottoms almost every day. Don’t be fooled that there is no way but up. Detroit is good at plumbing new depths.

    • The__Bobster

      If the plumbing is copper, it’s already been stolen.

      • SintiriNikos

        Bobster, I meant like digging new depths, not actual plumbing as in pipes, unless i got the expression wrong. But you’re right, as they have stripped copper wires and threw whole neighborhoods into darkness.

        • brengunn

          It was a joke.

          • SintiriNikos

            Thanks, I get it now.

          • LaSantaHermandad

            Whew! Thank the Lord! The LAST thing you want is to be accused of being
            Anti-Semantic.
            THe bottom line is that Detroit is the canary in the mine. I suspect that Baltimore, the city where our national anthem was conceived, will be the next city to suffocate.

        • Non Humans

          The term you were looking for was “Plunging”, man. And those neighborhoods were plunged into darkness before the streetlights were stripped of their copper wiring for crack-money.

          • Luis

            They even stripped the copper from the Kronk Gymnasium, where Thomas Hearns trained. They have no respect for their so-called heroes, even.

          • SintiriNikos

            Of course you mean figurative darkness. you’re right, there is an expression of ‘plumbing depths’ but it is not accurate in the context I intended. Plunging is. Cheers!

      • Pelayo

        LOL!!! I wish that I had said that!!!!

    • Howard W. Campbell

      When they hit rock bottom, the government just helps them mine further.

    • StillModerated

      Time to dredge another 6 inches from the cesspool.

  • guest

    I could solve the problem within five minutes and have time left over to get a latte.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      I know what that is, but while I would rather not do it that way, it will probably be necessary. What God wants, God gets.

      May we be truly thankful for what we are about to receive.

  • brengunn

    They should build a massive wall around it.

  • crystalevans

    As far as a financial center, hasn’t Charlotte, NC taken over from Chicago and New York since most of the banks are headquartered there?

    • http://twitter.com/seedymedia r j p

      Only the “back offices” are there. Charlotte tried to be a power city when Wauchovia tried to grow. It is now just a support city.

  • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

    We tweaked the methodology in this year’s list in response to feedback
    from readers, dropping our rankings of both pro sports team success and
    political corruption, since both were based on regional, rather than
    city-specific data.

    Ordinarily I would agree with that. But when the local sports teams start getting successful, it doesn’t stop with just parades. That’s when their owners start sticking their high class gibsmedat hands out for new stadiums. And corruption actually does have a link to the quality of life of a city getting miserable, even if it is a bit of a stretch: A corrupt city usually leads to corrupt cops, which leads to corrupt and capricious and uneven enforcement of laws subject to bribery and coercion.

    The problems of No. 2-ranked Flint, Mich. mirror those of Detroit.

    Wonder why.

  • Jaego

    What did they call Calcutta? City of Joy? So Detroit is the City of Hope.

    • Cherry Bomb

      Detroit was once called the “Paris of the West” so I guess its destruction could be due to “La Guerre” — LBJs War on Poverty, that is

  • APaige

    Just list the ‘most black cities’, we can fill in the blank with the other adjectives about the quality of life.

  • Shattered

    Maybe President Obama can “community organize” their problems away like he did their jobs.

  • Rational Being

    I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: Biology is destiny. Detroit is currently overwhelmingly populated by people whose genetic inheritance predisposes them to violence and stupidity. You cannot “fix stupid”; you cannot make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear. The only reason that blacks have not destroyed any inner city in which they predominate is the pressure of White civilization. Once you remove White civilization, you remove any controls these blacks have over the most vicious of them among their kind.
    It’s not even that blacks are necessarily the most vicious of all people; you can debate that. I’m not interested in that debate. But how is it questionable, at all, that among all the races, the blacks have by far the greatest number of vicious criminals, or those who are inclined to criminality? You would have to be willfully blind or devious to propagate any idea of equality when it comes to blacks and Whites.
    Individually, some blacks may be equal to some Whites. But the numbers do not lie: Statistically, they are less intelligent, more emotionally unstable, more violent, and simply less refined than Whites and some other groups. The sooner the blacks themselves realize this, the better off everyone will be. And the sooner White liberals realize that the delusion of equality is destroying White civilization, and with it, American civilization itself, the sooner this country can begin the process of raising itself from the muck and mire.
    Right now, there has never been a more hopeless and delusional time for race relations and, far more importantly, for this great Republic. Good White citizens will have to educate our own kind to avoid the fatal perils of equalitarianism and if we do not, then the future is truly hopeless for civilization on Earth.

    • Howard W. Campbell

      My mom grew up in Atlanta about 2 blocks from the black area of town. But at that time the APD was known in the black community for being a department that tolerated no idiocy outside the black neighborhoods. The police didn’t really care what happened in low-town and the talented 10th would crack skulls (if necessary) to keep the police from showing up. You did not have home invasion burglaries, arson, car-jacking, etc at that time in white neighborhoods. Even the teachers in the black schools kept baseball bats on their desks. I’m sure that little Donald Washington (born in 1925) learned a lot after he saw a couple of people who got their skulls knocked in. His great grandson Quantavious (born in 1995) did not learn the same lessons.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhRmv-bG014

    • Ed_NY

      Well said but I think we are beyond the tipping point. I see no way we can upright this sinking ship. I really feel sorry for future generations of Whites.

    • Pelayo

      Just watchin Pawn Stars gives one a perfect picture of Detroit.

      • Ed_NY

        I think you meant “Hardcore Pawn”.

        • Pelayi

          You’re right. Pawn Stars is in Vegas.

          • Pelayo

            And it really is Hardcore.

  • Tom Iron

    Yes, but here in the People’s Republic of New jersey, we do have our own jem, Camden.

  • Howard W. Campbell

    Gary, Indiana was 19th on the list, I’m surprised that it wasn’t higher. A former neighbor of mine stated that his parents were looking to build a house in Gary in the early 1960′s. After talking with a few people and getting a sense of impending doom, they moved about 20 miles down the road and built their house in Valparaiso (County seat of Porter County, IN). While his folks have since passed away, the house is still standing and is worth about 10 times what it would be in Gary.

    Video of Gary, Indiana from around 1959. Take a look at most of the people you will see in that video.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmTa18NmMzQ

    A video of Gary made in 2011. Again, take a look at most of the people you will see in that video.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkTAYzbBIOA

    Gee, I’m curious to see what changed.

    • AB7

      It really is amazing what has happened to so many previously normal cities. How in the world can the issue even be discussed when everyone cries racism to even examine the issue? Even Harlem was a normal (white) area until the 1920s when blacks moved in and the change started. It just isn’t enough for people to claim that the only reason these areas failed was not because blacks moved in bringing all of their own dysfunctions, but that whites, purely because they are racist against those with a different color skin, moved out. Even if all whites moved out purely due to their evil white racism, why didn’t the blacks just create a black heaven on earth miracle land in areas left to their own devices?

      • Melanie

        Exactly. If the problem is evil rayciss oppressive YT, then why wouldn’t it be the dawning of utopia on earth when all the evil rayciss oppressive YTs leave? But to the contrary-when evil rayciss oppressives YT leaves, the negros follow them! When in the history of humanity on this planet did a group of people actively cling to their “oppressors”, even demanding legislation that their “oppressors” must include them in every aspect of their lives, right down to their recreational activities?

        • Melanie

          They love us evil rayciss oppressive YTs so much, they even rape elderly white women-elderly, 80 yrs old and older! I’d love to know, considering the one-sided statistics on interracial rape (and you know which side is doing what), if there’s ever been ONE instance of a white man raping an elderly negro woman-the instances of white-on-black rape are so negligible, that they’re statistically non-existent, according to the FBI’s own numbers.

    • Luis

      HWC, I visited the sites you posted. Talk about differences between black and white! I note the scene in the early Gary video, about the man standing and looking at the statue of the town’s founder, Elbert Gary. I bet 99.9% of the people living in Gary now, have no idea who he was.

      Paul Samuelson the Nobel laureate in Economics, and Hank Stram the football coach were born in Gary. Their spirits would not recognize the place today.

      Gary’s demise started with the election of Richard Hatcher in 1967, only 61 years after the town’s founding. Yet, the color video mentions only “competition in the steel industry” and “loss of jobs”.

      • Howard W. Campbell

        A few other famous people who were born or grew up in Gary.

        Frank Borman, Astronaut / former CEO of Eastern Airlines
        Tom Harmon, 1940 Heisman Trophy winner (father of Mark Harmon of NCIS fame)
        Alex Karras (1935-2012), former NFL star,
        Karl Malden (1912–2009), (born in Chicago) Oscar winning actor
        Joseph Stiglitz (born 1943), economist, recipient of the John Bates Clark Medal (1979) and the Nobel prize (2001)
        Tony Zale (1913–1997), twice middleweight world champion

        Several of these people lived in Gary during the depression and that didn’t destroy the city. I guess that “Competition in the Steel industry” just did them in.

        If white people were running the show (with no federal interference), Gary would prosper again. They could be a fantastic location for logistics businesses and there is enough rail there to fill a small state. I guess Supply chain managers want their links to be there tomorrow and avoid Gary like the plague.

  • Sherman_McCoy

    We’s numbah 1! We’s numbah 1! Takes DAT, Philly!

    • AB7

      Isn’t proper ebonics for “we,” ‘we be’ or ‘weez be’? Other than that your translation seems about right. Perhaps in place of the numeral one, ‘wun’ indicating lack of understanding that it is even a number which is being referred to, as ‘won’ would also be pronounced the same way. Also, the h on the end of numba indicates it could be a Southern dialect which may not be needed in this case.

      It will take some time before advanced studies in ebonics at our more prestigious Ivy League schools iron out some of the more intricate details of the newest and freshest language, ebonics.

      I keep waiting for Obama to break out in full ebonics/thug talk one day.

  • AB7

    If it was not for the “residents” of those cities the normal reaction of the free markets would be to buy up properties at pennies on the dollar and rebuild. But that won’t happen for the same reasons these cities are in the shape they are in now. The added cost of trying to develop any sort of property or business in communities where the people are so stupid, so violent, so ungrateful, so impossible to deal with on any level, makes rejuvenating areas like this nearly impossible.

    • Melanie

      Not to mention all the shakedowns by the race hustlers before a business even signs on the dotted line.

  • Funruffian

    The quality of life in a city always commensurates with the amount of Blacks per clip. Down in Orange County California there are mny cities that are still desireable to reside in. Even with the total Latino population of 23%, there are less than 3% Blacks which is pretty good. In recent years the Asian population has risen and Whites still hold about 64% of the total populus in Orange County. Mexicans en masse will always be more productive and desireable than Blacks, but they often pose problems as well.

  • ConcernedYoungAmerican

    HA! Some of the conservatives on Politico are blaming the destruction of Detroit solely on “liberalism gone wrong.” I beg to differ. Portland, Oregon, Sausalito, California, and Worcester, Massachusetts are thriving liberal cities……and all are more than ~80% white.

    • Luis

      They don’t even bother to explain San Francisco, which is maybe 7% Bantu.

      • ConcernedYoungAmerican

        You’re right; without San Francisco (~55% white and growing as property values soar/gentrification occur), the entire Bay Area would collapse under the weight of all the mud.

  • http://twitter.com/seedymedia r j p

    In number 4 here (Chiacago). I live in a good area. But regardless, I must be careful when going to the supermarket as it is on the edge.

    Taxes are ridiculous. No white or asian people send their children to public schools. There is no traffic enforcement. Traffic is hell because of policy (bus lanes, bike lanes, lack of traffic enforcement). The L structure is literally falling apart but instead of the city investing in rebuilding the infrastructure they spend every federal dollar they get on new cars and new stations. Public transportation only works well in off peak hours.

    And then there is the real problem …….

  • Epiminondas

    Glad they appreciated Atlanta’s contribution to misery. If anyone on here knows any descendants of General Sherman, please invite them to come and burn it again.

    • AB7

      Give it time, just as Detroit has been burned to the ground from countless fires set by a certain segment of the population celebrating cultural diversity, Atlanta is heading in the same direction. No need to rush things, let nature take it’s course.

      • IstvanIN

        And then they move over to the next town, and then the next, and then the next, like the compartments on the Titanic, flooding one by one.

        • StillModerated

          One of these days they will be lured on to a reservation.

  • http://www.dailykenn.com/ Daily Kenn

    Interesting that Chicagoland is represented three times: Chicago, Lake County, and Gary.

  • bigone4u

    To borrow a bit from St. MLK, the problem is not the color of the skin, but the content of the character. Blacks have many character flaws that cause economic and social problems of a huge magnitude. Serious issues for me include:
    Lack of common sense
    Lack of self control
    Mistreatment of animals
    Little empathy for others
    Selfishness
    Loud
    Love the five finger discount
    No respect for elders
    Weakness for alcohol and drugs
    Paranoia, focusing on imagined wrongs by whites (Dorner syndrome)
    That’s a partial list, but the point is that quiet, serious people with common sense would prefer to avoid contact with others, no matter their skin color, who exhibit negative traits. Thus, Detroit would be a miserable place to live even with high wages and low unemployment.

    • Ken

      And they are lazy too.

    • LaSantaHermandad

      Don’t y’all be fogettin’ duh rapin! Dat be one of duh fings we be doin’ goot! Nowhaamsain?

    • StillModerated

      ~s also excel at shirking responsibility, blaming others, figuring the world owes them a living, and making lots of noise on TV.

  • StillModerated

    Detroit, Saginaw and Flint: the cement overshoes of Michigan. Grand Rapids wants in that club too.

  • Michael Mason

    Asking them to pay taxes is like giving a dog a big juicy steak but then asking it to drop it in front of your feet.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    Detroit has been reduced to ashes.

    It is a prime example of “Life After White People” where the parasites have been left behind to feed off of each other after all the producers were driven out.

    And, I should care about this White-free urban welfare reservation, why?

    Bon

    • http://twitter.com/baldowl baldowl

      Exactly! Enjoy your black utopia!

    • StillModerated

      Recycled condoms!

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    Home prices, already at historic lows, plummeted a further 35% during the past three years

    Houses are cheap in Detroit!! Why wouldn’t anyone want to move there?
    Why are all these homes still vacant?

    Bon

    • AB7

      If some group of whites moved there and bought up a few square miles and walled it off and started their own self-contained community, they would be denounced as vicious hate-filled racists. Something like this could be done, with armed guards at the gate, etc. Sort of like Jewish settlements in some areas of Palestine where they are under constant threat of attack.

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        Or like the Chinese setting up Chinese colonies all over Africa that exclude black Africans:

        Exclusive, gated compounds, serving only Chinese food, and where no blacks are allowed, are being built all over the African continent. ‘African cloths’ sold in markets on the continent are now almost always imported, bearing the legend: ‘Made in China’.

        There have also been riots in Zambia, Angola and Congo over the flood of Chinese immigrant workers. The Chinese do not use African labour where possible, saying black Africans are lazy and unskilled.

        http://southafrica-pig.blogspot.com/search?q=Chinese

        Same thing is happening in South Africa: Chinese flooding in to colonize.

        When Whites did this in SA it was called “evil apartheid” and a “violation of human rights” — and there was international outrage and imposed sanctions against the “racist” apartheid government.

        The difference? The Chinese are non-White and there is not a global genocide agenda against them as there is against Whites.

        Bon

        • Enticer

          global genocide agenda? Mind naming who it is that is orchestrating this global wide agenda? Does jared Taylor approve of it or the Tim Wise like moderator? Mind expounding on it some?

        • Enticer

          Global Genocide Agenda?? Who is responsible for it?

      • Luis

        Some whites in South Africa DID build Orania, a city from the ground up, after the Mandela regime took over. This was highlighted during the 2010 World Cup in South Africa. These whites were denounced, just like you say, by foreign white “journalists” no less.

  • former savage listener

    unless you want to hear two hours of mike promoting his book and himself dont listen to savage nation. shame he came back on the air worst show ever sounds like hes on drugs.

  • Fed Up

    Despite the protests by liberal “thinkers” against Whites leaving cities for the suburbs, the real reason is that Whites prefer to distance themselves from urban crime and mindless destruction by Blacks. Look at ANY city or town with a large Black population. See the crime and destruction by those fine people for yourselves.

  • eavesmac

    Can’t wait to see the jigs eating dog and cat food.

    • Tom Iron

      that’s not nice…

      • eavesmac

        But it is nice to let an inferior species take the wheel and run the ship into the ground?

  • Dave4088

    What majority black city isn’t a miserable place to live?

    • AB7

      Is that a riddle or a rhetorical question?

      • Dave4088

        Ha! I’d say the latter. If it was a riddle it would be the easiest one in the history of riddles.

  • MobyWhite

    Forbes will be added to the SPLC Hate Watch list.

  • StillModerated

    How well does Det-riot fare when compared with other African cities like: Mogadishu, Kinshasa, Monrovia, Nairobi, Libreville, Bissau, Banjul, Malabo, Timbuktu, Ouagadougou, and Luanda?

    • AB7

      Those with money probably get by just fine in any of those cities. But I’m just guessing. They just let their poor rot. And their leaders use “aid” money to fund their own lavish lifestyles. It is only in the West where blacks are able to play off of white guilt to take advantage of the scam to the extent we see here.