Tim Scott: ‘Market’ GOP to minorities

Katie Glueck, Politico, December 19, 2012

Incoming South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott on Wednesday said he thinks the GOP’s struggles to engage voters of diverse backgrounds comes down to “marketing”.

“What we have to continue to do is work through the process of marketing and the ideas that we represent,” he said on CNN’s “Starting Point,” when asked why the Republican Party faces challenges in winning minority voters. “I believe America is still very much a center-right country. And so what we have an opportunity to do is to walk into new places, new territories, and simply say the plan is clear, the way forward is clear and market ourselves effectively in new places.”

Scott is currently a Republican congressman from the Palmetto State, and he will be the first African American to represent the South since the Reconstruction era, once Sen. Jim DeMint steps down in January. He said the GOP should play to the American “work ethic,” emphasizing pro-business and education policies.

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  • Epiminondas

    And when this latest attempt by The Stupid Party doesn’t succeed, what will the excuse be? That Scott wasn’t black enough?

    • WmarkW

      He’ll do as much to promote GOP diversity as Clarence Thomas.

    • You Are Now Enriched

      The new gig for the GOP is to get browner and more Diverse, which means leadership roles and appointments go to the brown Diversity.

      It’s the same everywhere: “We have a Diversity problem, so we’ll promote a bunch of blacks to the roles that White men have already earned.”

      The when the blacks get the leadership, they say, “We have a Diversity problem because I see too many White faces at our meetings.”

      Satan’s nature takes its course…

  • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

    I won’t consume arsenic no matter how well it’s marketed to me.

  • HadEnough

    And DeMint thinks the GOP will pick up black voters by marketing the “work ethic”? Now I truly have heard it all! Please…someone tell me this is April 1.

    • The__Bobster

      Maybe it is. I just saw who Time Magazine’s person of the year was.

    • josh

      The work ethic!!!! In the words of Ralph Kramden:”Har har HAR dee har har!”

  • fakeemail

    To hell with the GOP and their new sales pitches. They will never understand that their base of White people voted for them because they were interested in preserving a country and a nation NOT a goddamn marketplace.

    This land is where we LIVE and RAISE OUR FAMILIES! It must not be an economic pissing ground that is open to all who manage to sneak through the border.

  • mike

    Let’s see, why would the average guy not love the Republicans. Could it have anything to do with the fact those 11-20 million illegal aliens putting them out of work are mostly being hired by Republicans? Nah. Maybe, that the companies sending millions of jobs overseas are mostly run by Republicans. Nope, couldn’t be that. How about union busting to keep wages down. Can’t see how that could upset the average guy. Shifting the tax load from the rich to middle class over the last 30 years. Doubtful. I guess I just don’t get it.

    • ATBOTL

      The real reason all these beltway GOP types are promoting diversity is to take to focus off of the party’s unpopular anti-middle class and anti-worker economic policies as well as neocon/military-industrial complex war mongering.

    • The__Bobster

      The tax load has actually been shifted to the rich due to the undercutting of the middle class wage base through immigration and outsourcing.

      • Nathanwartooth

        Yeah everything else he said was correct except for the tax part. I found this great article that broke down all of the taxes and the top 50% pay 95% and the top 5% pay like 90% of the taxes. I’ll look around to see if I can find it again.

        • MikeofAges

          That’s income tax. The rest of the tax system is pretty regressive.

        • ATBOTL

          You need to understand that the share of taxes paid by the rich has grown slower than the share of earnings the rich take.

      • JohnEngelman

        The_Bobster,

        We agree that the middle class wage base has been undercut through immigration and outsourcing.

  • dhs

    I think that Scott’s ideas are a big improvement over the pandermaniac neocon plans for revitalizing the Repubs. Scott does not suggest changing the party positions, but marketing them to the black population with triple digit IQ’s. I don’t think this will be very successful, but it will not alienate the GOP base.

    • The__Bobster

      Errr, only 16% of the Bantu population has a triple digit IQ. Not many votes to mine there.

  • Eagle_Eyed

    There are a certain group of conservatives, their hearts bigger than their minds, who like to believe that if only “conservative, Judeo-Christian values” were expressed/marketed better, “natural conservatives” like blacks and hispanics would vote for low tax rates and welfare reduction. Think Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh to a degree.

    Then there is a second group of “conservatives” who are really progressives in slow motion. They pretend to be speaking for the interests of fellow conservatives and Republicans, but they believe that the conservative message *itself* is too mean, and this is why the GOP does poorly with minorities. Their sage advice is for the Republican Party to amend their platform leftward, meanwhile ignoring the anger this generate amongst the GOP’s conservative base. Think David Brooks.

    And then there is the third, always-ignored group. Conservatives actually intent on conserving the republic and culture of their ancestors. They understand, with the second group, that the issue isn’t about marketing. However, unlike the second group they aren’t giant pansies and rightfully understand that they have every right to defend their own interests–considering it was their ancestors who built the country. If the divide is between the interests of large-government leech minorities and independent-minded traditionalist whites, it must be conservatives who fight for their interests and not the interests of other groups who need no help.

    Until we are able to better articulate *why* our positions are not only morally permissible but central to what it means to be American, the Right wing in the US will continue to win shallow self-serving victories denouncing the Left for [you name it] while the power of the state and its anti-white, anti-Christian, anti-traditional American policies continue to grow.

  • potato78

    GOP has already sold the country middle class to the wall street and bankers.

    GOP is not old time GOP. Now is new GOP, bunch of dealers is trying hard to sell this country middle class.

    • Triarius

      The GOP now is where the Dems were a generation ago, and the Dems now are where the socialists were a generation ago. In another generation the Dems will be full blown commies and the GOP liberal socialists.

      • JohnEngelman

        The Republican Party is to the right of where it was a generation ago, and far to the right of where it was when President Eisenhower wrote this in a letter to his brother: “Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas.5 Their number is negligible and they are stupid.”

        http://www.amren.com/news/2012/12/tim-scott-market-gop-to-minorities/

        • josh

          An extraordinarily stupid comment from our Wise Man of the East. The term “right-wing” has no real meaning. Because wealthy men want to get rid of SS,unemployment etc that makes them “right”,so we who despeartely oppose immigration,affirmative action,diversity and all the rest ,we are “right” so that means WE want to get rid of SS too?? Right-shmight(an expression used by the jews,but you wouldnt know that as you are from China,and about as Jewish as I am,lol)!

          • JohnEngelman

            I define “right wingers” as those who advocate policies that will increase economic inequality. Since the end of the Reconstruction Era in 1876 the Republican Party has done that, but it has done so with more vigor since the election of Ronald Reagan in 1980. The results can be seen here:

            http://investorvillage.com/smbd.asp?mb=971&mn=389436&pt=msg&mid=10153698

            By the way, I am a Nordic Gentile. My ancestors on my mother’s side were here before the American Revolution. I wonder how many AR posters who claim that Jews and Orientals do not belong in the Untied States can say that.

          • Undertow

            Jews and Orientals do not belong in the United States, and I can say that.

          • JohnEngelman

            Why not? Where does it say that in the Declaration of Independence, or the United States Constitution?

            Why do you belong if they do not?

  • Unperson

    AmRen’s sub-head asks:

    “How best to market a product the “customer” doesn’t want?”

    Ask this question of any competent marketing or sales professional and they will answer, “You probably can’t. You’re trying to do something that can’t be done. And if you insist upon doing it, it will result in nothing but a foolish squandering of your scarce resources that would be better spent elsewhere.”

    But of course Diversity isn’t a normal product, is it? It’s a product that is not consumed willingly, but must be FORCED upon its customers. In other words, a LOUSY product.

  • fakeemail

    I’m tired of markets and marketing. I want a COUNTRY not a marketplace. I am a citizen not a consumer.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NQHEAYZCMBOERHG2VZRDQ3YUSQ Felix

      From your lips to God’s ear.

  • NYB

    The competion of ideas is not a meritocracy.

    An important facet of ‘marketing’ success is choking off alternatives, and making sure your message gets the most exposure.

    Selling people lies this way gave rise to the old adage, “You can fool some of the people some of the time….”

    Canada has a center-right government, but in order to stay popular they have to walk a fine line, which includes a lot of un-conservative pandering to minorities and immigrants. U.S. politicians look to Canada for inspiration, thinking they can reclaim the center with similar pandering.

    In some ways, Canadian racial demographics resemble the U.S.A. of a quarter century ago, or about 80 percent white. Some day, Canadians may wake up with a racial balance resembling the contemporary U.S., and the center will belong to the left.

    Even the best marketing can’t overcome the facts on the ground.

  • http://twitter.com/AgentAxis D.B. Cooper

    The Republican Party has even bigger issues. Namely, half of us Amren regulars will not be voting for most of them next time.
    I sense the GOP will do an even greater freefall over the next several years. Without serious competition, the democrats will turn against one another.

    • Dave4088

      True, but when all else fails the Republicans just pander, pander again. To non-whites that is.

    • Nathanwartooth

      Nah the democrats will just get more power hungry and corrupt. That is what happens when you have a one party system. Just look at South Africa for an example of a one party democracy. They will work together even more to destroy the country.

      But the elite Republicans are 100% alright with what the democrats are doing. As long as the labor in this country gets cheaper and cheaper they don’t care who is in charge.

    • GeneticsareDestiny

      It will be very interesting to see the Democrats turning on each other. They’re a cobbled-together constituency of often opposing groups. As Hispanics rise in population, Democrats will take attention away from blacks to give it to them. Blacks, who already cannot stand Hispanics, will be very angry with this. There may be a race-war within the Democratic party.

      The small amount of white working class people still voting Democrat will see that the Democrats no longer offer them anything, and will leave, though they may not become Republicans.

      In a desperate attempt to hold onto young single white women, they will offer ever-increasing handouts, including free birth control, healthcare, abortions, pads/tampons, you name it. This will be moderately effective. Women are naturally more liberal than men, and as marriage rates continue to fall, more single white women will fail to become married white women, who are generally conservative.

      Among the gays, there will be a push to legalize gay marriage nationally, as well as to increase legal recognition of transsexuals. This will not go over well with the more religious parts of the Hispanic and black constituency.

      How long can all this pandering and these desperate attempts to hold the groups together last? It doesn’t seem sustainable to me. The party will probably undergo purges, much as it was in the Soviet Union.

      • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

        The duck tape and spit that holds the Democrat coalition is their common fear of the “normal Americans” that comprise the Republican Party, and likewise, the duck tape and spit that holds the equally tenuous Republican coalition together is the fear of the “abnormal” Democrat/left/minority/freak. If some event breaks apart one of the two parties, it will mean there’s no reason for the other party to stay together. I think the most common real world scenario that will lead to that is if/when the tea party movement groks that Boehner and Co. are throwing their stuff on the lawn and changing the locks, ergo the “marriage” is over.

  • You Are Now Enriched

    http://www.counter-currents.com/2012/12/metapolitics-and-occult-warfare-part-1/

    Samuel Francis explained the leftward drift of contemporary politics in terms of leadership. On the Left, the leadership is always to the Left of its constituency, moving them towards ever more radical positions. Furthermore, on the Right, the leadership is also to the Left of its constituency. Thus politics moves steadily to the Left, because the Left’s radical vanguard extends its influence through the whole political spectrum and pulls it along behind.

    The Right follows the Left, just as train cars follow the engine. The Leftist cars are at the front of the train and the Rightist cars at the rear, thus they reach the destination later, but in no sense do they have an independent course or motive power. There is just one engine, and the people in the engine determine the direction of the train. The people in charge of the various cars may wear uniforms and carry themselves with an air of authority. But they are just conductors and ticket punchers, along for the ride with the rest of us.

  • Dave4088

    Well at least Scott seems to be afflicted with the white man’s religious faith that economic policy can transcend race. I doubt that Timmy Scott or any other non-white Republicans can market the kosher conservative message such that it will lead to mass conversions to dittoheadism in the black and brown communities.

    In a nutshell, blacks and browns generally hate white people, harbor historical grievances, demand access to the white man’s wealth, property and resources and will only vote for politicians who will deliver these things while appealing to their bone deep racial animosity.

  • Mike

    The relationship between Blacks and the republican party is the equivlaent of a couple who divorced due to irreconcilible differences.

  • blastedout

    Since the civil rights movement has been master-minded by jews,w/ the Prez of Naacp being Jewish from 1909 to 1970,one has to wonder what might’ve been had the Jews not been alienated by the anglo rejection of their religion as incompatible..It is clearly Jews who’ve deliberately manipulated “integration’ so that it would be continually ..ANTAGONISTIC ..to the majority society…………..anyone who doesn’t see the whole movement as a triumph of ..subliminal marketing is blind…IT’S BEEN MIND -TERRORISM FROM THE OUTSET…………….It continued into the Romney campaign ,where he was absolutely auto-suggested to channel his campaign to a benign,non-antagonistic ,non-confrontational approach…………There was not one character,moral,or personal corruption issue that romney raised ..despite ..Michelle malkin having written,culture of Corruption nearly 4 yrs ago…………………It was as if Romney’s campaign was mind-controlled by Democrats to make it convenient for them to counter his best arguments……………….It became clear by romney’s own words that he was determined to put all his eggs in 1 basket of “the economy, very early………………….I objected at that time,w/ the complaint that “What if the economy improves by November?where would that leave Romney??……considering the personal & character issues that Romney ..ignored…the campaign was run tantamount to a prosecutor who takes John gotti to court,IGNORING HIS MAFIA CONNECTIONS,but instead hoping for conviction ,based on a high crime rate!!…Just stressing the union corruption in the healthcare woulda been a big step forward,not to mention the wide-ranging tax increases that belied all of Obama’s claims of innocence………and the way reps were bribed & cajoled into reaching the bare minimum of votes…Instead romney concentrated on “He’s a nice guy ….but…..”

  • blastedout

    Since the civil rights movement has been master-minded by jews,w/ the Prez of Naacp being Jewish from 1909 to 1970,one has to wonder what might’ve been had the Jews not been alienated by the anglo rejection of their religion as incompatible..It is clearly Jews who’ve deliberately manipulated “integration’ so that it would be continually ..ANTAGONISTIC ..to the majority society…………..anyone who doesn’t see the whole movement as a triumph of ..subliminal marketing is blind…IT’S BEEN MIND -TERRORISM FROM THE OUTSET…………….It continued into the Romney campaign ,where he was absolutely auto-suggested to channel his campaign to a benign,non-antagonistic ,non-confrontational approach…………There was not one character,moral,or personal corruption issue that romney raised ..despite ..Michelle malkin having written,culture of Corruption nearly 4 yrs ago…………………It was as if Romney’s campaign was mind-controlled by Democrats to make it convenient for them to counter his best arguments……………….It became clear by romney’s own words that he was determined to put all his eggs in 1 basket of “the economy, very early………………….I objected at that time,w/ the complaint that “What if the economy improves by November?where would that leave Romney??……considering the personal & character issues that Romney ..ignored…the campaign was run tantamount to a prosecutor who takes John gotti to court,IGNORING HIS MAFIA CONNECTIONS,but instead hoping for conviction ,based on a high crime rate!!…Just stressing the union corruption in the healthcare woulda been a big step forward,not to mention the wide-ranging tax increases that belied all of Obama’s claims of innocence………and the way reps were bribed & cajoled into reaching the bare minimum of votes…Instead romney concentrated on “He’s a nice guy ….but…..”

  • JohnEngelman

    Improved marketing cannot sell a bad product.

  • cynthia curran

    Well, white poverty was higher under Ike than its today. A lot of moutain folk didn’t have plumbing or house lights in the 1950’s. White povertywas around 20 percent. So one could not say today’s Republican Party is the right of Ike’s when the welfare state was very small, youonly got welfare in the 1950’s if you were a widow or divorce not if you had a kid out of wedlock. Marginal tax rates were high but the rich would escape paying them in the 1950’s by putting their money offshore or in a trust. You guys thinl all factory jobs pay good well I read about a black in Ca who was laid off and the job in the factory only pay 27,000 to test machines. The guy could have made a higher salary by learning bookeeping at a community college which pays around 34,000.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NQHEAYZCMBOERHG2VZRDQ3YUSQ Felix

    By making itself minority-friendly, the GOP alienates its base. The traditional GOP base and the people the GOP are trying to win over have nothing in common.

    The only hope for the GOP is to stick to its guns, stand by principle and try to win back the Reagan democrats, whom the duh-byah and Rove did so much to alienate.

    To appeal to minorities, they must become another gibmedat party, like the democrats, and they sign their own death warrant.
    So be it.

    • JohnEngelman

      If the Republicans had any sense they would try to appeal to Jews and Orientals. Those usually make more money than white Gentiles, so they have less need of domestic spending programs, and they are likely to pay higher taxes.

      Instead they try to appeal to the imaginary social conservatism of Hispanics.

      Right now Republican leaders are talking about immigration “reform,” in order to win Hispanic votes. This means “more immigrants.” If the status quo on immigration persists white will gradually become a minority race in the United States. With immigration “reform” whites will more quickly become a minority race.

      A large minority of whites will always vote Democrat. Indeed, whites under 30 are more likely to vote Democrat than whites over fifty. The Grand Old Party is becoming the Grand Older and Older Party.

      Already the Republican base consists of whites in late middle age and beyond.

      ———-

      “The dirty little secret of conservative talk radio is that the average age of listeners is 67 and rising, according to [Jon Sinton, founding president of Air America] — the Fox News audience, likewise, is in its mid-60s.”
      http://www.pensitoreview.com/2009/05/05/average-age-of-fox-news-viewer-is-65/

      • GeneticsareDestiny

        Orientals will never vote Republican in large numbers. Remember, in a multi-racial country, ALL politics becomes about race. Taxes, abortion, gay marriage, none of it matters as much as race. They will continue to vote against whites because whites are the majority, and they are a minority.They will vote for the Minority Party, the Democrats.

        Jews…I don’t know. I personally consider them white, at least the Ashkenazim. But American Jews seem so incredibly liberal as a group, and are so often behind the most radical liberal/Marxist ideas, that I simply cannot imagine it happening, not in large numbers.

        The best thing the Republican Party could do now is go fully in on becoming the White Party. They should begin focusing on white voters, particularly young ones. Bombard them with facts about taxes, crime, liberty.They may be mostly liberal now, but it would be easier to get young whites to vote Republican than to get Jews or Asians to do so.

        • http://www.facebook.com/ellis.kurtz.3 Ellis Kurtz

          “Orientals will never vote Republican in large numbers. Remember, in a multi-racial country, ALL politics becomes about race. Taxes, abortion, gay marriage, none of it matters as much as race.”

          Absolutely; if only the Republicans understood this.

          “They will continue to vote against whites because whites are the majority, and they are a minority.”

          I would say that Orientals, Latinos and blacks are not simply Americans who happen incidentally to be Orientals, Latinos or blacks (as Republicans believe), they are distinct, assertive ethnonational groups, and intend to remain that way. They are interested in one thing only – what benefits their group. They don’t give a damn about anyone else.
          By pushing assimilation, Republicans are by implication saying: “please lose your ethnic identity in the great American melting pot” – the last thing that members of an ethnic group want to do. Quoting from the “I have a dream” speech, which naive Republicans like Sean Hannity do ad nauseum, doesn’t help, since it is an invitation to abandon ethnic identity. King is an “icon”, but no one pays attention to what he actually believed.

          “They will vote for the Minority Party, the Democrats.”

          While the Republicans favor assimilation (though not integration), Democrats are multicultural, and know how to push the right ethnic buttons (Obama to Latinos: “We’re gonna punish our enemies”; Biden to blacks: Wall Street, Romney will “put y’all back in chains”). Republicans can only make headway with these groups if they become like the Democrats. Tokenism won’t help. Neither will pandering.

          “The best thing the Republican Party could do now is go fully in on becoming the White Party. They should begin focusing on white voters, particularly young ones. Bombard them with facts about taxes, crime, liberty. They may be mostly liberal now, but it would be easier to get young whites to vote Republican than to get Jews or Asians to do so.”

          Absolutely true. They have no other course of action.
          There is a ray of hope here: it is possible that, as Latino numbers grow, and their influence on the Democratic party with it, non-liberal Dem whites will become disaffected and turn to the Republicans, or at least to right-leaning Independence. Republicans must do everything they can to help this process along. It is their, and our, only hope.

  • LHathaway

    Having a greater percentage of whites were receiving government assistance would be the only thing to inspire people of color to vote for the GOP. I did my part and applied but was turned down.

  • LHathaway

    I guess sometimes ‘inclusion’ and equal outcomes is Too much work. .

  • bigone4u

    As Rush Limbaugh used to say about Bill Clinton, “style without substance.” Marketing can created demand for a product, but in this case the competing brand, Democrats, has a highly brand loyal following, bought off with shiny trinkets, baubles, and EBT cards.

  • tuscaloosa

    Well it looks like 60 year old big lips homo boy Lindsey grinning like a possum at the negroid selection will get his way on spics now. Gotta wonder if Lindsey and Tim got a thang for each other?
    Wallace was 100% on the money back in 1968 when he said there was not a dime of difference between a Democrat and a Republican and if you opened all the fancy briefcases up in the Central Government all you would find was a wad of cash and a peanut butter and jelly sandwich?

  • kingfish

    I had never heard of Tim Scott before the last few days. However, if he holds true to his statements on TV interviews we will have a small gov market freindly politican to replace De Mint. But no one with any sense can deny that his appointment was pandering to minorities by first Haley, and also probably with pressure on her from the party elite. It would seem that many if not most republican candidates in the future will have at least some ethnicity other than pure anglo. Rubio comes to mind, along with the next Bush, Jebs 1/2 latino son, and I am more or less ok with them, if as I said before, they hold true to the stated free market principles that have been expressed in interviews. However, I dont think it will work to attract the minorities to the repubs, unless we give them more welfare than the dems. I have a black minister freind who is a staunch repub and who can see the damage the dems have done to his race. He points out that the black race is pretty much conservative on most issues,, such as family values, christianity, anti homo, but will never in mass vote against more welfare. There is the dilemma for the repubs, it looks to me like its adios to the repub party unless the dems somehow screw up thier position and it doesnt look like thats very possible. KF

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NQHEAYZCMBOERHG2VZRDQ3YUSQ Felix

    Comes down to “marketing”? Tim Scott is an a**hat. How about basing policy on sound reasoning instead? With clowns like Scott, no wonder the GOP is in trouble.

  • scutum

    Interesting that Rience Priebus has stated that when he took over the leadership of the Republican party they were broke. This no surprise as most blacks have no sense of responsibility and can think and process information only in current time. They have no concept of the impact of their actions on future events and have no concern about long term consequences.

  • Liberalsuck

    Why am I not surprised the GOP and the ‘conservative establishment’ has not learned their lesson? Why am I not surprised that despite all their pandering to nonwhites will do them in?

  • josh

    Very typical (trite and silly)remarks by a very typical black Republican. Minorities who go Repub do it gain attention,ass-kissing and most likely a lot of money. This clod is a perfect example,his vapid and dumb comments are meaningless. His “job” is to make “them” vote Republican,an effort for which he will be well paid,despite the outcome,.which will be a net gain of about zero low IQ,EBT,welfare,unemployment “fix da schooze” minorities. Like theres a chance in hell they’d switch!!!!. (Not when Phase ll of Obama kicks in!)

  • rebelcelt

    I have voted the Constitution Party 3 of the last 4 elections. Everyone tells me I wasted my vote. Now, I am more glad than ever that I did . The Republican Party pays only lip service to conservatives and many are finally figuring it out. I do not expect much change though. Ronald died a long time ago and even he made mistakes on immigration.