Israeli PM: Illegal Immigration, Human Trafficking Things of the Past

David Lev, Israel National News, December 2, 2012

At an annual event discussing ways to end human trafficking, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu declared that the problem of illegal immigration into Israel “has been solved.” With no more than a few dozen illegals managing to get into Israel in recent months, Netanyahu said that for all intents and purposes, his government had managed to put an end to illegal immigration, and with it, the problem of human trafficking.

“Human trafficking, human torture, and murder of children were phenomena that accompanied the parade of illegals that entered the country. From the moment we stemmed this flow, with the intent of stopping illegal workers from entering the country, we were able to stop these phenomena as well,” he said.

“A year ago, there were thousands arriving here, and the rate of arrival was increasing. We strengthened our borders. And last month, just 40 illegals entered the country, and none of them reached the cities. We have halted the illegal entries, and with it the human trafficking crimes that accompanied it,” Netanyahu said.

Netanyahu added that Israel had come a long way in the human trafficking area. “For the first time, Israel appears in U.S. State Department reports among the top countries fighting against human trafficking. For the first time ever, according to State Department figures, not one victim of human trafficking entered the country in 2012. If someone saves a life, [the Talmud says], it is as if he saved the whole world,” Netanyahu added. “And we have saved many worlds.”

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  • http://twitter.com/LavMenace Crystal Lee Evans

    Israel has actually returned Sudanese illegals to South Sudan. They are making it hard for Africans to live there by not granting them work permits, not providing welfare benefits so many of them actually live on street. No wonder the number of illegals has gone down.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NQHEAYZCMBOERHG2VZRDQ3YUSQ Felix

      If our leaders had balls they’d do the same.

      • Svigor

        And use their love for Israel as an excuse. Our venal pols all fall all over themselves and one another in the scramble to constantly proclaim their love for Israel, but NONE of them support any Israeli-style policies that might help Americans.

    • http://www.facebook.com/willard.gage.3 Willard Gage

      we should be doing that here.

    • toldev

      Good point. Many times people talk about what the government should be doing about illegal immigration. Maybe the discussion should be what the government should not be doing. For example, another article today is about the state of California granting unemployment benefits to illegal aliens. If the government would stop granting illegals taxpayer funded freebies, maybe some illegals might decide they had it better off in Mexico and deport themselves.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jerry.jenkboy Jerry Jenkboy

    Wow! Wonder if that would work in America. Probably not. The Democrats would lose too many voters.

    • Nathanwartooth

      Yeah I guess there isn’t a political party in Israel that panders to the illegals.

      • The__Bobster

        They can have one of ours.

        Funny how Israel’s solutions are the solutions libtards say will never work.

        • Mark Green

          But liberals express unwavering loyalty to Israel all the same. Do you know why?

          • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

            Depends on the situation. Most mainstream American liberals, Jewish or gentile, are generally pro-Israel, but their sympathies line up fairly well with the center-left of the Israeli body politic, the type that is (by Israeli standards) sensitive to minorities and wants “peace.” Lamestream American conservatives, to the extent they do their fancy “standin’ with Israel,” want the center-right of the Israeli body politic to win, because they share some level of military hawkishness in common.

            A growing trend on the American left is anti-Israel attitudes among white gentile peacenik types, the growing Muslim population and some anti-Zionist Jews. This trend is mostly seen on college campuses. News stories about pro-Israel events or speakers being censored almost always originate from a college campus, and the censorship comes from that milieu. But I can’t waste my time going boo hoo for the “victims,” when these “victims” hoist that petard on the Pat Buchanans and the Joseph Sobrans and Ron Pauls of the world with regularity.

          • ATBOTL

            The center left in Israel would be considered far right in any other Western country. The Israeli center left supports ethno-nationalism and a racialist immigration policy.

            If you want to find the left in Israel would meet the standards of being non-racist that Jews hold us to, you would talking about something like 5% of the Jewish population. Maybe one out of twenty Israelis have a level of racialism that wouldn’t get a white American fired from the National Review.

            Conservative Zionists talk about the Israeli left as if they were truly self hating, but in reality, it’s a debate between racial separatists who are content with what they have — people equivalent to most white nationalists in the West — and militaristic expansionists who favor invading other countries and ethnic cleansing so they can have the land for themselves– people like the Nazis.

          • Svigor

            There’s more of that dreaded nuance and context. ANTI-SEMITISM!!!

          • Svigor

            I think we pretty much all know why at this point. :)

      • http://twitter.com/LavMenace Crystal Lee Evans

        No, most of the Israelis want the Africans gone and have had foreigners go home marches referring to both Africans and Filipinos. One Israeli politician said that Africans and Filipinos have a homeland to go back to. This is our homeland. Also Rabbis have refused Africans who want to convert to Judaism so that they can stay in Israel.

        • i am

          What are Filipinos doing in Israel?

          • Michael_C_Scott

            Probably guest workers. There are lots of Filipino guest workers in the Middle East.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/NQHEAYZCMBOERHG2VZRDQ3YUSQ Felix

            An Israeli pick lettuce or scrub a toilet??? Oy, veh!

          • NYB

            Filipino nursing assistants, nannies and housemaids do the low-paying work Israelis don’t want to do.

            Africans will convert to any religion which will give them a bridge to the First World. Christianity is the fastest growing religion in Africa.

        • Svigor

          The whole idea of conversion to Judaism is an elaborate fig leaf.

          • ATBOTL

            Many hardcore Jews won’t accept any convert. We have a community of Jews here in the NYC area, the Syrian Jews, who won’t marry Ashkenazi Jews because they are assumed to have mixed blood. The New York Times writes about this very respectfully, without using words like “racist” and “xenophobic.”

    • 48224

      The Dems will likely ask Israel and other nations to send us their unwanted immigrants. More votes for the next election!!!!!

      • Svigor

        I read a story not too long ago about a Jewish pol in Australia who called for legislation to bring Israel’s unwanted immigrants to Australia.

        • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

          IIRC he is a member of Federal parliament as part of the Australian Labour Party, the main center-left party. Offloading troublesome Africans from Israel to Australia is a political win-win for both sides: It’s one fewer vote for liberal/center-left Israeli parties, to help the Netanyahu coalition, and one more vote for the ALP. The loser is the native born white Australian.

        • David Ashton

          This was a policy suggested some years ago in World Zionist Organization circles for Palestinian refugees. This is a possibility that must be watched.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NQHEAYZCMBOERHG2VZRDQ3YUSQ Felix

      The “friends” of the Israelis here in America would never allow it. Talk about hypocrisy.

    • JohnEngelman

      And rich Republicans would lose too many low wage workers to drive down wages.

      • Luca

        And rich Democrats enjoy the cheap labor and the future votes.

        • Sean

          And white Americans just bend over and allow the Mestizo hordes to rape our nation.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/NQHEAYZCMBOERHG2VZRDQ3YUSQ Felix

          And rich Democrats enjoy the cheap labor and the future votes.

          And republicans insure the sunset of their party. One wonders: Did Lenin foresee today’s GOP when he spoke of “useful idiots” ?

      • Svigor

        Why aren’t you busy telling us how importing millions of high-IQ Chinamen would help Israel, you hypocrite?

        • JH

          The commander of the Israeli Navy was half Chinese, half Ashkenazi but all Jew. They promote by talent, not by Diversity Quota.

          • Svigor

            They don’t work their immigration policy by merit, now do they?

          • Steve

            Not quite. You need one Jewish grand parent – that is a connection to the Jewish people. Hence the Admiral referenced. Quite a few non-Jews come in under this, although many end up leaving Israel or assimilating into the Jewish people, not out. (they also let Arabs in Jerusalem become Israelis- and they do, although not publicized) And because only Ashkenazi Jews are left as a Jewish source of immigration, merit takes care of itself. You may hate Jews, whatever, but Ashkenazi Jews have high IQs. Just a fact. Israel has the second most educated population in the world, I believe, despite the fact that the Arabs and Ultra-religious do not pursue secular education. But Israel does not hide it wants to be a Jewish state. It is the reason the State exists.

          • Svigor

            I bear them considerable animus, owing to their aggregate behavior, but I don’t think I’d characterize it as “hate.” They’re too useful to hate – their modus vivendi annihilates the credibility of what they promote for us.

            As for their mean IQ, it’s higher than most other populations, but also widely exaggerated. Ashkenazi (not Jewish) mean IQ is about 107, worldwide. Ashkenazi mean IQ in Israel is 104. The smarter ones live in the diaspora. Non-Ashkenazi Jewish mean IQ is about the same as the European mean. Israeli mean IQ is lower.

            Episcopalian mean IQ, at 109, is higher than even that of diaspora Ashkenazi.

          • David Ashton

            I was slightly acquainted with the late Sir Alfred Sherman, who wrote some scripts for Margaret Thatcher. He opposed mass-immigration into Britain as “cultural genocide”, and said that if Jews are entitled to have a national homeland in the Middle East, the English are certainly entitled to keep theirs in Europe.

  • guest

    Meanwhile, the illegal immigration problems of the USA, Europe, and the other westernized countries are getting more and more out of control.

  • ATBOTL

    Why isn’t the New York Times denouncing this? Imagine the outcry from Jewish media and organizations if any white country adopted similar policies.

    • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

      At best, the NYT and ADL will have perfunctory denunciation, certainly displaying no outrage. The real laugher will be when National Review, Weekly Standard or Commentary publishes the columns displaying their outrage…I believe that the issues of those mags that will do that are scheduled for the 12th of Never…funny because that’s the same day that the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight is set to go.

      • Svigor

        “Perfunctory denunciation,” a statement that reeks of nuance. That’s something the Usual Suspects hate (when it’s their ox being gored, anyway), in my experience.

    • NYB

      Greece is regularly denounced in the Jewish-owned papers.

      Hardly a day goes by without another story about Golden Dawn, and dire warnings about “European fascism” when there’s talk of curbing immigration.

      ‘More immigrants’ is music to the ears of investors who have stakes in America and Europe. Israel gets preserved, America and Europe get thrown on the bonfire.

      • Liberalsuck

        That’s why you don’t support major print publications and why you go online (like RT on Youtube) for your sources. Why do you think the government and this ‘tribe’ are trying to control the internet more and more?

      • Cannot Tell

        Israel seems to be the only majority white country in the world that is interested in protecting its borders. Too bad the country isn’t bigger. Then racially conscious whites could flee there.

        • Kyle

          Israel and a “white” country? Surely, you’ve got to be kidding?

        • Svigor

          I’d say follow their example rather than their lead, but hair-splitting aside, I agree with you.

    • GSJ

      Yes the hypocrisy by International Jewry (no, not talking conspiracy talk here, but Jewish media organizations around the world) regarding nationalism is disgusting. Jewish nationalism is promoted, but when Greece does it, oh boy, do we have a problem! These same people tend not to criticize Mr. Wilders or Ms. Le Pen because they are seen as less radical, less “anti-Jewish” but I have not seen any credible evidence that the Golden Dawn plans on rounding up Jews when it has the chance.

      • ATBOTL

        The NYT criticizes the hell out of Le Pen and Wilders. If their names are mentioned, it must come with an epithet attached, like “xenophobic extremist Marine Le Pen.”

        Wilders gets zero credit for sucking up to Jews.

        • Steve

          Wilders is a Hero in Israel. They understand him and love him. They think Europe is committing suicide and Wilders is one of the few who gets it. Look up Wilders in the Israel National News.

          • NYB

            They like Wilders for his hard line on Muslims, which popularizes the idea in the West that Israel is facing a common adversary, therefore the West should support Israeli hawks.

        • Liberalsuck

          Yeah, he has a blog on Facebook and does nothing but suck up to Jews or Israel. He’ll say “There is not one Jew that lives well in (such and such Middle Eastern/Muslim country.” Sometimes a white nationalist on the blog will write, “There is not one white person that lives safely in (fill in name of black city or country)” just to show the double standard. If you are a white gentile, none of these groups you suck up to will ever like you or cut you a break. You are doomed either way, so do your best everytime to avoid helping them. They already are getting enough of our blood, sweat and money for free without giving us anything we want in return.

      • Steve

        When are you people going to get it? Israelis are not left wing American Jews and don’t care what left wing Jews or left wing non-Jews think about anything. The NY Times criticizes Israel constantly but they don’t give a d-mn. They do what they need to do to survive. And Israelis would cheer a border fence in the US – they get it.

        • GSJ

          No no, I am not referring to Israelis. I mean American Jews and some European ones. Israelis are definitely not liberal cultural marxists, they face it every day.

          And to ATBOTL, I am surprised. I would expect them to be given some special status for being so nice to Israel, but no. I do know that in Europe Jews are more right-wing and are not labelling those individuals as Neo-Nazis and such. But it really bothers me how the Golden Dawn is so demonized, they haven’t done anything to Jews. Is it a crime to deny the use of gas chambers? I think they were used, but I still support Golden Dawn no matter what they believe in that issue.

          • Svigor

            American Jews aren’t left wing, either. They’re faux left wing, like the other ethnic constituencies. Like Muslims, they follow a “for thee, but not for me” strategy; support the left wing in Euro territory, and oppose it in their own.

            Euros are the only ones who follow a leftism consistent enough to deny national survival to their own kind. Jews, Muslims, and non-White leftists are just fine with ethno-states for their own kind.

            In short, “left wing Jew,” “left wing Muslim,” etc., have fundamentally different meanings to “left wing White.” It’s like the difference between international socialism and national socialism, except for now there’s no conflict between them because left wing Whites are too stupid to know there’s a war on.

          • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

            I have found that leftists of all kinds, faux and real, ethnic hypocrites or purists, are real hypocrites. Even our supposedly pure of heart gentile leftists are usually pursuing the angle from some sort of subconscious self-interest, if you dig deep enough.

          • David Ashton

            Leftists (including some Jews) in Britain support Palestinians against Israel because of their anti-colonial underdog-ism. Most Jews put their perceived collective self-interest first, as indeed so should white Gentiles, though there are many differences about the consequent strategies. I support a tactical alliance between Gentile and Jewish opponents of Muslim immigration, jihad and caliphate ideology, without taking sides on, for example, the location of the eastern border of Israel.

          • Svigor

            I support a tactical alliance between hard-line pro-Israel elements and pro-Whites too, insofar as it gets us somewhere. Unfortunately, the practitioners of this strategy supposedly on our side of the fence seem to show too many indications of actually being on the pro-Israel side of the fence.

            They could show their real loyalties by leveraging each and every pro-Israel argument for our benefit, but seem to do so with distressing infrequency.

          • David Ashton

            More concerned about Muslim and other foreign mass-immigration into Europe and the white English-speaking world than the precise resolution of the Israel/Palestine problem. Israel can’t take all the world’s Jews and doesn’t want any more Arabs, but whereas the Mid-East problem might be worth discussing in a special section of AR it would have to be among people whose knowledge of historical facts and Jewish “lobbying” &c does not extend to imaginative fantasies totally without rational support.

          • Svigor

            Indeed, it is with these tests one can suss out Jewish ethnocentrism. You don’t see Jews choosing the Cowboys over the Indians in their reading of history, for example. They only reverse their typical pattern when it comes to their own tribe.

          • David Ashton

            “Most toxic for supporters of Israel…is the quote attributed to [Senator Chuck] Hagel…’The political reality is that…the Jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people up here.’ – Jonathan Cummings, “The Jewish Chronicle” (London), December 21, p.10.

          • GSJ

            They are left wing to a large extent. Nearly all “left wing Jews” support Obamacare, gay rights and making tough gun control, so they are left wing to a strong degree, just not towards Israel, and even then they are usually more willing to appease the Muslims in deals than so called right-wing Jews.

          • Svigor

            Similarly, National Socialists were socialist to a large extent. They supported gun control, “green” policies (pioneered them, actually), bans on smoking, national health care, and big gov’t and social engineering in general. Yet the International Socialists were their mortal enemies, despite agreeing with them on most of the particulars, because of a few profound differences on the fundamentals.

            The differences between white leftists and the ethnic leftists are similarly profound and fundamental; the white leftists are just unaware of the ethnic leftists’ duplicity.

          • http://www.facebook.com/willard.gage.3 Willard Gage

            There is in fact a strong element of liberal cultural marxists in Israel. It is not as strong as it once was though. I think the high water mark for the LCMs was the oslo accords. Israel was very divided over that deal. Many Israelis saw it as a capitulation to the enemy, a very treasonous deal that spelled the end for Israel as a nation. What came of that was the assassination of Rabin. The left capitalized politically on that assassination but in the end it turns out it was a good move for the right to make. We should take a lesson from this. Sometimes the end goal is more important than how one is perceived.

          • GSJ

            Hmm true, but they do not have any major power (thank goodness). The Israelis in charge (unlike the rest of the world) know that you can’t deal with these people, just like you can’t deal with Mexicans and blacks, but the US is so far gone that 11 million illegals are not being hunted down and deported, and the borders are not properly being protected and monitored and crimes which would result in the nation-wide lynching or deportation of blacks or mexicans if proud whites were still in control go practically unmentioned in the media.

          • Svigor

            They’ve never approached the level of power that they’ve attained in the west (which is why I think the idea that Israel is really a part of the west to be ludicrous); if they had, we’d see loads of Chinese and Latin American immigrants in Israel – they pose no danger of terrorism, after all.

          • blutopluto

            The Jewish community in Greece was wiped out by the Nazis. Golden Dawn has no relationship with Jews. They are to be admired for trying to save their country.

        • http://www.newnation.org/ sbuffalonative

          It would be nice to read some articles in the Israeli press supporting border and immigration controls in the US. If you know of any, please post them.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/NQHEAYZCMBOERHG2VZRDQ3YUSQ Felix

            ***sound of crickets chirping in background***

        • Svigor

          Left-wing, right-wing, wing-schming. American Jewry:

          Is Israel’s biggest supporter.
          Holds a plurality of American media power.
          Is the biggest opponent of Euros ever contemplating, much less doing, what Jews do for themselves in Israel.

          • http://www.facebook.com/willard.gage.3 Willard Gage

            There are segments of American Jewry that actively seek the destruction of Israel.

          • Svigor

            And they are small and weak, and of no consequence. If I was a cynic, I’d suggest that they’re window dressing, and only of consequence as talking points for the kind of comment you just made.

          • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

            American fundagelical Christians:

            Are Israel’s biggest supporter.

            Jews hold a plurality of media and other kinds of power in France, for example, but the French body politic isn’t really keen on “Standin’ With Israel.”

          • David Ashton

            Have these Christians noticed how many Jewish writers blame The Holocaust on the New Testament?

          • blutopluto

            Can you name any Jewish writers that blame the holocaust on the New Testament? It is well known that Hitler did not support Christianity. He planed to kill every Catholic Priest in Poland. He had started in one particular camp. He knew the Church was at the heart of the Polish people. He despised Poles and wanted to destroy their culture. Back up your ridiculous claim.

          • Svigor

            G**gle is your friend. Christianity is widely blamed for ANTI-SEMITISM!!!, and ANTI-SEMITISM!!! is an undisputed cause for the Jewish holocaust.

          • OlderWoman

            There is a picture of Hitler standing in the doorway of a Catholic church and photos of priests saluting Hitler. Even the Pope at the time supported him.
            http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/pius.html

          • blutopluto

            There are films of comedians and musicians performing in concentration camps. It is called propaganda. Your photos aside, there was one Polish camp with many priests. It was a stated goal of the Nazi regime to kill all the Polish priests. Everyone had to salute Hitler or be dragged away. He was standing in the church door? SO WHAT. He had a death plan for priests.

          • razorrare

            ah,but if only the victims of the “Katryn Forrest Massacres” could speak…The poles have always known whom committed those atrocities but it was only rather recently that the world was shown whom the perpetrators were by acknowledgement of Russian authorities who released that information from their historical archives.

          • blutopluto

            The Russians were murderers. At the end of the war in the area my family lived, they out Nazied the Nazis. This does not change the fact that Hitler and his minions were filthy murdering scum. You like them here in this country 70 years later? Fine. You have great taste. I can only hope you have to deal with such viscous animals yourself. We produce a whole underclass of such beasts, enjoy.

          • Professor Farnsworth

            For years that site was used as a “prime” example of Nazi atrocities. All the skulls showed a bullet to the back of the neck, which is a Soviet, not Nazi tactic. I suspect there were many more Soviet atrocities on the Eastern front that were blamed on Nazis. Not that the Nazis were angels, they weren’t. But the Soviets were far worse, the body count much higher. Yet the US supported the Soviets during WW II, a war we should not have been in. If two evil empires wish to destroy themselves, we need to stand back and let them.

          • OlderWoman

            I’ve searched for the “Katryn Forrest Massacres” and cannot find a link to them. If you have one please give me a link to it. Thanks.

          • David Ashton

            Spelling is “Katyn [Massacre]“.
            Wikipedia should give you a start.

          • OlderWoman

            I’m unfamiliar with that part of history.

          • blutopluto

            So be it, still history.

          • Professor Farnsworth

            Then stop posting here until you’ve (re) educated yourself. From your posts I can see that you are way out of your league.

          • OlderWoman

            I can see you enjoy insulting people, ‘Professor’ whatever. Thank you for your compliment.

          • blutopluto

            Pios XII was a real gem that has legions of apologists in nthe Catholic Church. Nothing to do with Hitler killing priests.

          • OlderWoman

            Sad that he wished to kill priests. Certainly they were being persecuted by him. This is nothing new. Priests have been persecuted in many countries. Canada and Mexico come to mind.

          • David Ashton

            And Red Spain, especially. All the Communist countries have persecuted Catholic priests and other religious believers. Some events have been pushed into the memory hole. For example, I have been trying find some photographs I once saw of RC priests tortured in China and expelled, one of them a missionary with a broken back – the religious order concerned has no record of the event.

          • razorrare

            excerpt from Scot Spencers article,The History & Significance of the New World Order…

            Misinformation about National Socialist Germany

            A tremendous amount of
            malicious dishonesty has been directed against the memory of Hitler’s New
            European Order. For example, there has been an effort to manipulate Christians
            with the lie that Adolf Hitler was a scourge of Christianity. In fact, Adolf
            Hitler received a great deal of support from Christian clergymen, Catholic and
            Lutheran. Among the smaller sects, the Seventh Day Adventist and New Apostolic
            churches were among the most ardent supporters of National Socialism, long
            before the party actually came to power.

            Another lie is that Hitler was a member of the Thule Society. Such a society
            did exist, but Hitler regarded it as an embarrassment. You may read his opinion
            of its freakish “occult” characters in the last chapter of Book I of Mein
            Kampf.

            It is also a lie that Hitler took away the guns from the German people. The
            promoters of this falsehood usually make the insinuation by means of a verbal
            shell-game, in which they distort the actual disarming of non-citizen,
            non-German, Jewish deportees during the war into a fictitious disarming of the
            German people — an event which never took place under National Socialism.

            The National Socialists actually relaxed the gun laws in Germany. In fact,
            private ownership of guns persisted in Germany until the New World Order forces
            of the Allies rolled in and confiscated guns, and converted Germany into a
            brainwashed province of the New World Order.

            This myth of Hitler the gun-grabber has been promoted most vociferously by an
            organization calling itself “Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.”
            It should be clear that Jews in general are a very biased source of information
            about Hitler.

            Why Is Hitler Demonized?

            Hitler is accused of many things he did not
            do, but there is one thing he did do. He broke the Jews’ grip on Germany and
            restored Germany to the German people. This fact is reflected in his popularity;
            during most of his administration, Adolf Hitler was favorably regarded by more
            than 90% of the German people — a popularity which no American President has
            ever matched.

            Because Hitler put the interests of his own people first, and freed them from
            the New World Order, World Jewry declared war on Germany in 1933. They revived
            essentially the same propaganda they had used against the Kaiser. With
            appropriate changes, the same kind of propaganda is used to rouse us against
            whoever the current enemy of the New World Order happens to be.

            Heaven forbid that our people should ever have a strong leader who cares for
            our survival as a people, as Hitler cared for Germany. That would not suit the
            New World Order at all!

            And that is why the obsession with the democratic republic as a form of
            government is a grievous error in the American patriot movement. When the New
            World Order was implemented in Germany, it included the establishment of a
            republican constitution in place of the monarchy. Our political tradition in the
            U.S. and our public school education lead us automatically to regard this as
            progress. Really, we ought not to be so smug.

            Those who make “democracy” their political ideal are, whether they realize it
            or not, helping the New World Order. Our main concern about government should
            not be whether it is a “big government” or a “democratic” government, but
            whether it is a government which serves us — or serves our enemies.

            It is absurd to moralize against Adolf Hitler for setting up a strong
            government to preserve his people from the New World Order. It is absurd to
            criticize him for not acting like a typical American conservative — for not
            using approaches that have always failed. Conservatives always compromise; they
            use half-measures and try to be nice to everyone. It is to Hitler’s credit that
            he saw clearly what had to be done and did it, with very little compromise. Let
            us no longer make virtues of irresolution and weakness; let us no longer
            moralize against success.

          • GM (Australia)

            What you are saying is quite correct, Hitler did stand up for the rights of (most) of his people and gave them pride in their nation and race and restored the industrial might of Germany. Just what did go wrong that all of these actions sent the world into the most disastrous war in history? White man against white man, Christian against Christian. Again, what went wrong?

            As supporters of this web site we should all have one overriding concern, that is making sure that our way of life is preserved and that our children and grandchildren will not be minorities in what is rightfully their own society and own nation. Looking for Jewish, Catholic or even fundamentalist Christian conspiracies will only distract from our concerns and the real message. .

          • Beloved Comrade

            Who do you think is behind white genocide of children and the wresting away of white homelands?

          • OlderWoman

            J e s u i t s.

          • Professor Farnsworth

            Wrong. You need to study history, which you obviously haven’t, before coming back here and making a fool of yourself.

          • OlderWoman

            And you need to read the books I’ve read. Some of them published by the Catholic Church. Others by priests and former priests. Insult me all you want. I’m not leaving. Btw. you must be new here. I’ve not read your posts before. What are you…..an upstart crow? Your arrogance is blinding.

          • razorrare

            As supporters of this web site we should all have one overriding concern, that is making sure that our way of life is preserved and that our children and grandchildren will not be minorities in what is rightfully their own society and own nation…then it is imperitive that you study history and the underlying causes of wars…start with the belfour declaration and Benjamin Freedmans 61 speech explaining the causes that led up to world warI and world war II…i have given the link to such within this thread…search for it or google his name on youtube…you also claimed R.Murdoch wasnt jewish…thats not factual…how can we begin to preserve our way of life if we do not care about the truth.

          • Svigor

            Hitler’s real “sin” was his imperialism and expansionism, not his ethnopatriotism. Of course, America has deliberately absorbed all the wrong lessons of Hitler as cautionary tale, thrown out the baby and kept the bath water.

          • saxonsun

            Quite true.

          • GM (Australia)

            This and the previous 2 comments are all absolute garbage, neither the Jesuits nor the Catholics are trying to bring down white civilization, most Catholic clergy that I know are decent sensible people. The real problem is the loony-left side of politics, the UN, and the Greens that seem to think we are all equal with equal levels of intelligence and aspirations and that if we got rid of white privilege and influence that we would all live in peace and harmony. Unfortunately this message is being rammed down everyone’s throats.

          • Hate Catholic Charities

            Catholics run “Catholic charities”which is responsible for pushing for large numbers of refugees from Somalia and other piss holes be brought in and dumped into the US. They bring these animals in and then dump them onto the American public who then must pay their welfare bills and “tolerate” their third world ways.

          • OlderWoman

            Affirmed. I still stand by my comment that the Society of Jesus is contributing to the death of white nations. They are actively training blacks on their Liberation Theology and social justice. I know two black families whose children have been aggressively courted by Xavier College. The influx of Catholic Mexicans also contributes to their Counter-Reformation. It’s all connected.

          • David Ashton

            There is a lot of rubbish written about both Hitler and the Catholic Church 1933-1945, but there is enough reliable documentation to reach a balanced perspective on a complex matter.

            Pope Pius XI issued an Encyclical “Mit brennender Sorge…” in March 1937 on the “gradually increasing oppression” of the faithful in Germany. He criticizes “a mad attempt to imprison God, the Creator of the world…within the pedigree of one single race” (para.13) and “an aggressive neo-paganism only too often supported by influential persons” (para.15).

          • OlderWoman

            Thank you for referring me to the encyclical. I’ve bookmarked it to read tonight. I had no idea of Piux XI involvement. My reading has been mostly about Pacelli, Ignatius and the Jesuits. I think I should go back farther and read forward. I’m fairly new at studying about the Vatican so any help I can get is most appreciated.

          • David Ashton

            There is quite a literature on Pius XII & National Socialism, from several quite different angles. A Google search will bring up more than enough to keep you busy for months on end!

          • David Ashton

            The Jesuits have changed for the worse since the infection into the Church itself of Cultural Marxism since Vatican 2. In scholarship and spiritual commitment they no longer compare with priests earlier in the 2oth century like Fathers Herbert Thurston, Cyril Martindale, Gerard Manley Hopkins, etc.

          • David Ashton

            I have seen only today (December 21) your demand to back up my “ridiculous” claim by naming “any Jewish writers that blame the holocaust on the New Testament”.

            Though I have quite a library of books and articles on this subject, a recent painful affliction of my hands and wrists makes it at present difficult for me even to access, and then type in, all the most relevant material, but here is a tiny selection: (1) Dan Cohn-Sherbok, “Anti-Semitism: A History” (2002), esp.chh.2-3, & Bibliography; (2) Hyam Maccoby, “Judas Iscariot and the Myth of Jewish Evil” (1992), esp.p.110; (3) Susannah Heschel, “The Aryan Jesus” (2008). For contrasting Catholic views, see James Carroll, “Constantine’s Sword: The Church and the Jews” (2002) and Leon de Poncins, “Judaism and the Vatican” (1967).

            Hitler adhered to the view that Jesus was an Aryan (at any rate on his real father’s side) but his personal hostility to the Christian churches increased as time went on.

            Whereas Jews in ancient times (also) held the view that Jesus was a mamzer, but also a wicked magician, modern Jews have inclined to the view that he was a radical rabbi, subsequently turned into a quasi-pagan deity by Christians. Some think the “Jewish” murder of the (Son of) God, through centuries of ingrained antisemitism, helped to fuel Nazi (and Polish Catholic) hostility to Jews.

            This is all my fingers can manage for the time being.

          • Svigor

            Hitler adhered to the view that Jesus was an Aryan (at any rate on his real father’s side).

            Very droll. :) I was actually thinking about this the other day, and the insufferable arrogance of Jews and atheists who are fond of saying “Jesus was a Jew,” and how that’s tantamount to implying that God is a Jew.

            I suppose we could say that Jesus was half Jewish, but then, so were many in the 3rd Reich.

          • David Ashton

            I have edited in bits to my previous comment above.
            Jews and atheists do not regard Jesus as God anyway, but Yahweh in the “Old Testament” deity has some resemblance to a tribal deity.

          • David Ashton

            In Nazi Germany, the RC theologian Karl Adam argued that the immaculate conception of the virgin mother of Jesus and that of her only son exempted them both from any inherited negative features of Jewishness. The Protestant NT scholar Walter Grundmann argued that as Jesus was a Galilean, his Jewish ancestry was actually questionable.
            The ancient view shared by some Nazis and others that the real father of Jesus was a Roman soldier called Pantera seemed to have a possible basis in the discovery of a headless statue in a German burial site of a Roman archer, Julius Tiberius Abdes Pantera, who had been active near Galilee roughly around the presumed time of the nativity.

          • David Ashton

            My documented reply to this question appears several posts below.

          • David Ashton

            Detailed answer to the question below.

          • Dr. Möbias

            The United States of America and its military might are Israel’s biggest supporters. We give them $3/b per year and the latest military hardware. We also fight Israel’s proxy wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, countries that are no threat to the United States or its people. It’s far time we stopped.

            “We” Americans support Israel. “Fundagelical” (whatever that means) Christians do not have the military power, standing armies or cash reserves to do this.

          • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

            1. Israel per se never was worried about Iraq. Bush 43 did Iraq II because Bush 41 did Iraq I, and why Bush 41 did Iraq I I’ll never really figure out.

            2. Israel cares even less about Afghanistan. We’re there because of what Taliban/AQ did to us on 9/11. But like I said elsewhere, we should “be there” in the sense of drone strikes and air strikes, not using boots on the ground to “spread duh-mocracy.”

            3. Libya — Also quite a distance from Israel.

            4. Syria — Now you’re talking. BUT…why are “we” slowly overthrowing its secular dictator for basically an AQ-run government that would directly border Israel if we were in it for Israel? Sure, people like Billy Kristol Ball might think it’s a clever idea to stir stuff, but Benjamin Netanyahu might disagree.

            5. Fundagelical is a portmanteau of fundamentalist/evangelical. And yes, believe me, they’re the big time boots on the ground when it comes to voters when it comes to empowering a very pro-Israel FoPo from Washington, and they provide these votes and sometimes their blood in spite of most Jews hating them for it.

          • razorrare

            Fundagelical Christians???

            I highly recommend you read this…The History & Significance of the New World Order…by Scott Spencer

            http://www.natvan.com/free-speech/fs9612a.html

          • GM (Australia)

            Jerusalem is central to the Christian faith, be it traditional Catholic or extreme charismatic fundamentalism, nothing more, nothing less.

          • MerlinV

            The United States of America has an interest in supporting Israel. A militarily strategic interest. You seem to suggest otherwise. What did you have in mind?

          • Dr. Möbias

            No, we don’t. We have no interest in supporting Israel. Israel can support itself.

            Israel is not of military strategic interest to the people of the United States. Not one country in the ME, including Israel, is worth one American life.

            What do I have in mind? How about this: the American government stops meddling in the affairs of other countries. Withdrawing troops from the over 100 countries where Americans are stationed. Stop supporting ruthless dictators. Stop spending billions of dollars “spreading democracy” and protecting Israel. The results of these policies have been treasury-busting, disastrous and NOT in the interests of the American people. We have created enemies throughout the world with our misguided foreign policies and bombs.

            What reasons do you have for continued American military involvement and meddling in foreign countries? For unending wars and lost billions in hell-holes like Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, etc.?

            Justify why Americans should sacrifice their young people and billions of dollars in places that are no threat to America or Americans.

          • Liberalsuck

            Well “wouldn’t you rather fight them there than here” as the counterargument the warmongers make. I dislike liberals for sure, but I also dislike the neocons who have a love for Israel and who are obsessed with getting us involved in other countries affairs and who are obsessed with “We don’t want every country to have nuclear weapons. Do you want crazies having them?” I then ask, “Define what a ‘crazy’ person is. Would you like some country telling us we can’t have nuclear weapons? Would you like some liberal or some anti-gun lobbyist telling us we couldn’t own guns?” That argument or analogy seems to go right past them.

          • Beloved Comrade

            You ask ‘em why Israel is hypocritically allowed to have nuclear weapons but their neighbors are not.
            Most importantly, why this is any business of the US.

          • GM (Australia)

            Agree completely, they are not worth ONE USA or Australian life .But this post is all about Israel having a security fence, it is very effective at keeping out Israel’s many enemies as well as illegals.This post is also about deporting illegal immigrants, again Israel has enough enemies without encouraging enemies from within. We should be doing the same, as simple as that.

          • Beloved Comrade

            Sure we should be doing the same especially exposing the enemies from within, which some of us are trying to do here. Why are we called Nazis when we want to protect the homelands we built for ourselves and our posterity? Who is preventing us from protecting our children from a genocide that is being directed against us.

            That includes you Whites in Australia and you should be thanking us for exposing your enemies as well, they are the same one we face.

            All too often it is the same ones that vehemently support a border fence for Israel and kicking out THEIR foreign population yet demand that we whites keep the borders of our lands wide open to the sludge third world. This includes Australia. I have spoken to many Australians who are distressed at what is happening to your homeland.

            It is the height of hypocrisy for Jews to demand we keep our borders open. We should be discussing this openly with other whites. Period. We are facing the loss of our homelands and the genocide of our people. Nothing is off the table when it comes to exposing those who seek our destruction whatever their background. They deserve to be exposed and ferreted out to stop their evil plan. That it is the media, Hollywood, universities, higher levels of government that are behind this and that they are controlled by Jews is the issue here.

            Stopping the genocide of white children is the issue. That includes Australia, South Africa, Europe, The United States and any other white homeland.

            Maybe you should join in with other whites who are trying to prevent the loss of our homeland and genocide of white children, including in Australia.

          • OlderWoman

            I’m all for pulling support from Africa, South America, and all muslim countries.

          • Liberalsuck

            We need to support Israel that way Jesus can come and bless us. He was supposed to come in 2000, but that didn’t happen. Maybe Israel needs more of our money and more white soldiers to be killed or permanently injured to make that happen.

          • MerlinV

            OMG!! You have shattered my worldview!! hahaha

            You guys just don’t get it. Do you? You either fail to recognize or simply have no idea regarding the historical significance and impact that Christianity had on the development of the Western world. It changed and revolutionized the West in terms of education, law, science, philosophy, and more. It should be respected for that.

            For you and others its nothing more than a old guy with a white beard up in the clouds somewhere. A fairy tale for the weak minded. An opiate for the masses.

            Its easy to see why our cause will never get off the ground. Because it only appeals to atheist conspiratorialists.

            You did get one thing right though. Liberals do suck.

          • razorrare

            Jesus hasnt come and blessed us cause those who rule Israel are non-jews who are instituting the New World Order plan to rule the world…In revelations Jesus says as much…Many will come to me saying they are jews but are not jews but are the synagouge of satan…

          • David Ashton

            There are several different explanations of “synagogue of Satan” in the Apocalypse. Check in scholarly commentaries, Protestant and Catholic alike.

          • OlderWoman

            That’s a STRANGE statement that Jesus was supposed to bla-bla-bla. Actually that was a RIDICULOUS statement to make. The Bible says no man knows when He will return.

          • Vonhauer

            So? Who cares what Jews think? Are they your master? Do they prevent whites from setting their own policies in the U.S. or any other Western countries? If so, who gave them that power? Explain how 2% of the U.S. population controls the voting power of the other 98%.

            Also, the number of Gentile far Left psychos outnumber the entire Jewish population by at least ten-fold I would guess.

            Hope this website doesn’t become a neurotic, “oh we’re so helpless under the awesome power of Jews” nut-job sites out there. Instead of worrying about what the jews are doing we need to focus on what WE are going to do.

          • Germanacus

            Good points. What I took away from this story was an idea of how to shut down illegal immigration, how it worked for Israel, and what use it could be for us. My mind didn’t immediately race toward, since the Jews control most of the media they also control the minds of most Americans or some similar rubbish. I don’t read the NYT and don’t get my news from leftist sources — Jew or Gentile. Yes, most Jews have cast their lot with blacks and other minorities. Duly noted. So what? Doesn’t hinder my resolve in the least. As far as I am conerned, White Jews who agree with us are welcome here. The more the merrier.

          • MerlinV

            Most Jews cast their lot with Muslims which eventually brought on the Spanish Inquisition. They seem to have a habit of choosing the wrong side. Still, I agree with you. Jews arent monolithic. Some are with us. There seems to be an idea out there that to be pro-White or a race-realist that you HAVE to be anti-Christian, anti-Jewish, anti-Intelligent Design, etc etc.
            Not buying that crap.

          • Svigor

            I don’t see race-realist as synonymous with “pro-White” at all. There’s overlap, certainly, but they’re not at all synonymous. I don’t know what ID has to do with it at all. Seems like dragging in a non-sequitur to me. Christianity is a bone of contention, with the more NSDAP-inspired sort being against, and the rest more sympathetic. I’m a secular Christian myself, and see a properly reformed Christianity as an essential tool in the toolbox of European Ethnopatriotism.

            So all of that stuff seems quite separate from anti-Jewish sentiment, despite your attempt to bundle them all.

            I don’t see anti-Jewish sentiment as necessary to European Ethnopatriotism – more like inevitable; the more genuinely one becomes the latter, the more genuinely one becomes the former.

          • Svigor

            I for one would like to point out that I’ve never even suggested that Jews aren’t welcome here. I wouldn’t presume to tell entire groups of people who is welcome on someone else’s site (though I do reserve the right to make particular individuals feel unwelcome as far as I’m concerned). On the contrary, I welcome any Jews who can act as civilly as the Jews in this thread have so far, and look forward to further discussions.

          • Germanacus

            I believe I used the qualifier “as far as I am concerned.” Make no mistake, this is Jared’s website. He can take it in whatever direction he chooses. And, by the way, I have read “Culture of Critique” and was impressed with it. A very scholarly work. It should be read far and wide. Additionally, I have no problem with Kevin. Its the commentors on his website who hold some fairly delusional ideas that I have a problem with. Hope they don’t show up here and discredit this site as they have Kevin’s.

            That’s my $.002. Keep the change.

          • MerlinV

            I have read it too. Agree on some of the commentors on his site. My opinion is get the truth out then let reasonable minds draw reasonable conclusions. You dont have to go batcrap crazy with conspiracies.

          • Svigor

            So true. In fact, I’ve read that giving people facts, and refraining from drawing too many conclusions, is more psychologically effective (persuasive) than spelling everything out. Apparently, people like to draw some of the conclusions themselves; it makes them feel involved in the process, as if they’re doing some of the math. Sort of like how people like a murder mystery they can figure out before the culprit is revealed.

          • David Ashton

            Agreed, after studying the “Jewish Question” (among others!) for several years.

          • Svigor

            So? Who cares what Jews think? Are they your master?

            This is a tendentious argument. First of all, lots of people care what Jews think. They’re falsely held up as paragons of leftism, when (as I’ve illustrated in another comment to this thread) they’re actually faux liberals whose behavior undermines the very foundation of liberalism. They’re also falsely held up as fonts of wisdom and morality.

            Second, obviously they’re not my master, but having plural control of the American media affords them immense power, and does make them the master of society in many ways (insofar as plurality is mastery). It certainly doesn’t do whites any favors to sweep the reality of the power of mass media under he rug; whose side are you on? That’s not a rhetorical question, by the way.

            Do they prevent whites from setting their own policies in the U.S. or any other Western countries?

            Yes.

            If so, who gave them that power?

            They did, by gaining control of the media.

            Explain how 2% of the U.S. population controls the voting power of the other 98%.

            Via control of perceptions, via control of the media.

            Also, the number of Gentile far Left psychos outnumber the entire Jewish population by at least ten-fold I would guess.

            So gentile far left psychos are 20% of the American population? Do you have any sources for that?

            Hope this website doesn’t become a neurotic, “oh we’re so helpless under the awesome power of Jews” nut-job sites out there. Instead of worrying about what the jews are doing we need to focus on what WE are going to do.

            The two are inextricable. As for the “awesome power of the Jews,” well, I have made the point about nuance several times here (see my comment about the “Jewish mind control rays”); it’s not possible to understand Jewish media power using such childish, simplistic modes of thinking. That’s the only mode you’ve shown yourself capable of so far, but I will say (for the benefit of others not so lacking) that Jewish power is a “soft” and vulnerable kind of power; it depends very much on certain delusions currently held by most of the Euro populace. Delusions about “civility,” acquiescence to taboos and “politeness,” concerns about status and fitting in, etc. All it would take is a sea change in attitudes and beliefs on the part of the Euro majority to smash that power utterly.

            The world is not so simple as “Jooish mind control rays, lulz,” so no, I can’t explain the power of the mass media in such terms.

            As for sites that disallow criticism of Jews, about 99.9% of the Web qualifies. Maybe you’d feel more comfortable on one of them?

          • Vonhauer

            I see. Then this awsome power possessed by Jews is able to control the mind and will of most people, excluding you, of course. How did you manage to escape their evil clutches?

            In summary here is what I believe: white gentile far-left nut-jobs far outnumber the far-left Jewish nut-jobs. I see this as a cultural issue. There can be little denying that most Jews are Leftoids and freely express themselves as such. It shows in their occupations such as in academics and the media. It shows for Leftoid whites as well. What I don’t believe is that their is some sinister plot by Jews to over-throw or destroy the white race. No, Jews act the way they do because they think their position is correct just as whites do. I’ve heard it all about Jews including how they actually developed Christianity to lead whites away from their virtuous pagan roots when the truth is Christianity was and still is despised by large numbers of Jews.

            Being a small ethnically conscious group of people in positions of influence suddenly gives Jews mystical powers in the weak minds of some whites. Pathetic losers in my opinion. They are so obsessed with conspiracy theories that they are of no use to anyone.

            I prefer to focus on what WE can do rather than on what the Jews might do. Plain and simple.

          • Svigor

            I see. Then this awsome power possessed by Jews is able to control the mind and will of most people, excluding you, of course. How did you manage to escape their evil clutches?

            See, this is what I mean. I can’t really engage in a serious conversation with someone who talks like he’s in a comic book.

            In summary here is what I believe

            Why should I care? I stopped reading when you mis-characterized my position and turned it into a comic book caricature – respect is a two-way street.

          • Dr. Möbias

            There is no arguing with Vonhauer, Svigor, he has no idea what he’s talking about. Jews control the media, hollywood, institutions of higher learning and the US government. Anyone here really think 0bama or blacks are in charge of this country? How utterly naive and laughable.

            Whites haven’t been in charge of the US government for many decades, in fact our enemies use government force to oppress and suppress us.

          • Svigor

            I seem to be getting along much better with the Jews in this thread than with Von, lol. :)

          • Dr. Möbias

            What’s more shocking is our posts are staying up. Usually when we discuss Jewish issues our comments are deleted, but not Steve’s or other pro-Jews.
            Maybe AR is finally getting the message that blacks aren’t whites biggest enemy? I’ve always wondered why AR puts up articles about Israel, etc., then deletes any comments that question Jewish issues, especially how Jewish control of the media and academic institutions have affected the white race. LOL, maybe we are making some headway here…

          • Svigor

            Maybe the mods are on vacation. :) Or maybe they just recognize a perfectly civil conversation when they read one. I was just about to say how impressed I am with the overall conversation here. It’s nice to see Jews and WNs work through this stuff in a reasonable manner for once. I sincerely do wish that this could more often be the case.

          • Dr. Möbias

            Or maybe there are more and more people becoming aware of Jewish perfidy against the white race and sites like AR can no longer ignore it. Whites are losing their living space in every white homeland and it’s becoming impossible not to notice it. It’s extremely important to know exactly who did this to us and why. We will suffer the same fate as white South Africans soon.

            I believe Culture of Critique should be required reading for anyone posting on threads like this. It should be required reading for ALL whites.

            Thanks for posting and the great links.

          • Svigor

            You’re welcome for the links. I agree, all of Kevin MacDonald’s writing should be required reading before anyone can start popping off about the this and that of the Jewish Question.

          • razorrare

            This should be required reading as well…Free Speech Directory…written archives by the Honorable Dr.William Pierce…

            Honesty & facing reality without evasion are more important than politeness—-Dr.William Pierce

            http://www.natvan.com/free-speech/index.html

          • OlderWoman

            ‘…that blacks aren’t whites biggest enemy…’

            I disagree with you. I believe they are equal to the Jews as a danger to the white race. I believe the Society of Jesus and the Vatican are the biggest danger and are in control of ‘court Jews’ and are controlling the blacks while educating them at the Jesuit schools on social justice/black liberation theology.

          • Vonhauer

            The ant controls the elephant. Got it. We seem to have some escapees from O.O. lurking about.

            What distinguishes AmRen from the other conspiracy sites out there is its lack of ITS THEM JEWS I TELL YA!

            Nuff said. Have a pleasant evening. Nothing personal. Carry on.

          • Dr. Möbias

            You are even more naive than I thought.

            “…Israel has a powerful stranglehold on the American government. They [the Jews] control both members of the House, and the Senate. They have us involved in wars in which we have little or no interest. Our children are coming back in body bags. Our nation is bankrupt over these wars. And if you open your mouth, you get targeted. And if they don’t beat you at the poll, they’ll put you in prison.

            –Former US congressman, Jim Trafficant

            Is Trafficant wrong? Point out exactly where Traffican is wrong.

            “I’ve never seen a President — I don’t care who he is — stand up to them [the Israelis]. It just boggles the mind. They always get what they want. The Israelis know what is going on all the time. I got to the point where I wasn’t writing any­thing down. If the American people understood what a grip those people have got on our government, they would rise up in arms. Our citizens certainly don’t have any idea what goes on.”

            Admiral Thomas Moorer, former Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff

            Is Admiral Moorer wrong? Point out exactly where he is wrong.

            “We are owned by propagandists against the Arabs. There’s no question about that. Congress, the White House, and Hollywood, Wall Street, are owned by the Zionists. No question in my opinion. They put their money where their mouth is…We’re being pushed into a wrong direction in every way.”

            Helen Thomas, a fifty year veteran of the White House Press Corps.

            Is Helen Thomas wrong? Point out exactly what she stated that was wrong.

            How about the late Joe Sobran? Was he wrong when he stated the following?

            “… A hypocritical etiquette forces us to pretend that the Jews are powerless victims; and if you don’t respect their victimhood, they’ll destroy you. It’s a phenomenal display not of wickedness, really, but of fierce ethnocentrism, a sort of furtive racial superpatriotism.”

            Read the rest of this article and then come back here and state that the ants don’t control the media, Hollywood, and every other facet of American culture. http://zioncrimefactory.com/jew-world-order/

          • Svigor

            You forgot “lulz, Jooish mind cuntrol rayz, yuk-yuk!”

          • OlderWoman

            There’s also those of the Illuminati…the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Schiffs, Soros….

          • David Ashton

            And the Lizards from the Planet Esnesnon, don’t forget them.

          • OlderWoman

            good joke. hahaha

          • GM (Australia)

            Before we get too concerned about Jews and Zionists controlling all the media just remember that one of the biggest media barons in modern times is non other than Rupert Murdoch, an Australian!

          • Beloved Comrade

            Murdoch a zionist, non-Jewish but 100% pro-Israel.

          • GM (Australia)

            We should all be supporting Israel, a modern prosperous democracy governed by the rule of law in an otherwise very dark part of this planet.

          • razorrare
          • Beloved Comrade

            Thanks for the link. I did not know that about Murdoch.
            I added the info to my database for future reference and use.

          • razorrare

            Your welcome…you might find this interesting as well…David Irvings Action Report on Rupert Murdoch…

            http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/02/05/Murdoch2.html

          • Svigor

            Reminds me of when the “Russian” oligarchs emerged and 7 out of 8 of them were Jews; somehow the one non-Jew in the group (one of the richest robber barons in modern times) was meant to prove something in the minds of some folks.

            Murdoch reminds me of that diamond-seller in Snatch, pretending to be Jewish to get along in a Jewish business.

          • razorrare

            But Murdoch pretends not to be jewish when other historians like David Irving(A trusted Historian)says he has jewish roots—Mother is Jewish—see the links i supplied below…

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            razorrare:

            Thanks for the links on Murdoch, I’ve added them to my arsenal.

            You might want to read David Irving’s latest article about the school shooting last Friday – he’s shilling for gun control!!

            http://www.darkmoon.me/2012/the-connecticut-school-massacre-by-david-irving/

            It will take a really tough president, oblivious to the yelping of the gun industry, to get a handle on this one. Not in my lifetime, probably. Outlawing all the corrupt cash lobbies in Washington would be a good start. Perhaps systematically stigmatising the (of course, today tightlipped) National Rifle Association would be another good idea. Call the late gun owner “NRA-member Mrs Lanza,”… Until then, hecatombs of children as well as their elders and stupiders will have to die.

            Also, the late, Birdman has a few choice words for Mr. Irving as well (but I’ll have to dig around for those links).

            Bon

          • razorrare

            Bon…Thanks for the link…to say i am surprized & dissapointed in David Irvings thoughts on gun control concerning the latest school shooting is an understatement…it certainly casts a shadow on his good judgement…if anyone should know better it would be him…Actually,i am at a loss for words…I still respect him greatly as a Historian who sacrificed much to report & research honestly on the “Jewish Holocaust”—rather than being another accepted house scholar and establishment historian…

          • Svigor

            Brits seem much more comfortable with statism than we do.

          • razorrare

            Bon…Thanks for the link…to say i am surprized & dissapointed in David Irvings thoughts on gun control concerning the latest school shooting is an understatement…it certainly casts a shadow on his good judgement…if anyone should know better it would be him…Actually,i am at a loss for words…I still respect him greatly as a Historian who sacrificed much to report & research honestly on the “Jewish Holocaust”—rather than being another accepted house scholar and establishment historian…

          • razorrare

            Also,the late,Birdman has a few choice words for Mr.Irving as well…

            hehehe…you mean Jake Bird,the black Tacoma Axe Killer of 1947???

            http://www.historylink.org/index.cfm?DisplayPage=output.cfm&file_id=7971

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            Wow! Tacoma Axe Killer of 1947. It must have been quite a shocking story in those days — probably not only salacious but national news, unlike now — because these things have become so common, ordinary daily experiences all across the country.

            Blacks offing Whites? Ho Hum says the national press!!

            Link to David Irving criticism — for a different perspective on Irving. I think it helps to read all sides. Birdman was a little peculiar — but brilliant and I consider him a good source. I’ve lifted many quotes from his anti-war page.

            re: Irving

            http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/NetLoss/Irving/Irving-IrvingDirtContinuesToAccumulate.html

            Birman’s anti-war page:

            http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Index-DailyReads-FlagPoster.html

            sample: I believe that all the monuments we have raised to men who have been responsible for starting wars should be razed, and public toilets built on the remains. These, of course, would include Lincoln, FDR, Reagan, Clinton and both Bushes, plus a good many other presidents and congressmen.

            Birdman died in Feb., 2009.

            Bon

          • OlderWoman

            Married to Wendy Deng, a member of the communist party.

          • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

            Our gentile “conservative” semi-psychos aren’t much help, either.

          • OlderWoman

            I am not in support of liberal Jews in the U.S., especially those who are for a two-party state in Israel. They are terribly misguided if they think the muslims want peace and to ‘share’ Israel.

        • OlderWoman

          You are so correct. American Jews support a two-party state. They weaken Israelites by supporting the Jordanian squatters in Palestine. American Jews are also part of the racist war against Whites. I do not trust the American faction at all. I sincerely believe they are secretly fomenting a race war between blacks and white.

          • Svigor

            American Jews support Israel as a Jewish state, and Israel depends on that support more than any other. American Jewry and Israeli Jewry are bosom buddies, BFFs.

        • OlderWoman

          I agree. I read a local synagogues newsletter. They support the squatters called ‘Palestinians’….they want a two party state in Israel. Doesn’t sound like they support Israelites at all.

      • Svigor

        Over time the “lulz, jooish mind control rays, conspiracy theories, you guys are nuts” philo-Semitic “argument” (feminine shaming technique, really) will capture fewer and stupider minds. Pattern recognition is smart, and that’s all “ANTI-SEMITISM!!!” is, really.

  • IBWHITE

    Where are Bruce Springsteen, Bono and the rest of the libiot’s at while this goes on?

    • Steve

      They could rant and rave all day and all night. A lot of the left “artistic”scene boycotts Israel – Elvis Costello, Roger Waters. Israelis don’t care. They would tell them to f off. The usual left wing NGOs did criticize the border fence – too bad. They built it anyway and – IT WORKS. Lesson to be learned for anyone.

      • Jeff

        Yeah, the real reason Israel doesn’t have a lot of protests is because Israel ignores it all, or responds to it with force and makes no apologies. Many countries and people boycott Israel. Many famous people are anti-Israel. Many people protest against Israel. Israel doesn’t give a fart about any of this. They ignore it and go on with what they’re doing.

        That’s what we need to do. Hucksters like Al Sharpton only have power because we (well, not me, but other whites) pay attention to their whining. We need to learn a lesson from Israel.

        It looks like Greece’s Golden Dawn has learned that lesson. Just like the Israelis they don’t care how their actions are perceived and they make no apologies.

        We need to learn that lesson. Stop listening to the whiners, stop apologizing, start openly telling Jesse Jackson and his homies to f off and die.

        • OlderWoman

          Boy I’d love to see Jackson and Sharpton put in their place, all their power stripped from them. But, then there’d be other ‘upstart Crows’ to take their place.

      • Svigor

        If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, it makes no sound. The difference is that the media (plurality-held by Ashkenazis) does not pick up the hue and cry and repeat it around the world for extended periods. They just publish it in the back pages and move on. This is how the propaganda machine works.

  • alas

    Netanyahu is playing the game well when he justifies the fence based on universalistic ‘human rights’ values. Even though I couldn’t give a damn about these, if that is the language that must be used to persuade more people to support a fence, then so be it I say!

  • jackryanvb

    “At an annual event discussing ways to end human trafficking, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu declared that the problem of illegal immigration into Israel “has been solved.” With no more than a few dozen illegals managing to get into Israel in recent months, Netanyahu said that for all intents and purposes, his government had managed to put an end to illegal immigration, and with it, the problem of human trafficking.”

    Jack Ryan replies:

    Only in my dreams can I envision some White American leader giving the same speech.

    Can some of Amren’s honest, loyal Jewish readers please make some posts, give us some hope that someday this could be a reality in our White country/countries?

    God bless.

    • Mark Green

      Sorry Jack. Jewish leaders LIKE America’s transformation into a multi-racial, multi-cultural civilization. It’s their plan. America becomes safer for the Jews with more diversity. No white, Christian majority to worry about. Just an assortment of disunified minorities squabbling with one another.

      • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

        How did that work out in Crown Heights, New York, circa 1991? If that’s the supposed plan of the supposed “Joos” to muddle things up everywhere else to keep them safe, it’s a stupid plan. Because of Patterson’s First Axiom — People grow to resent all that vibrancy around them, and then start asking themselves questions about who did this to them.

        • ATBOTL

          No one ever said it was good plan. If you read about Jewish history, they have always done stupid things for people who are so smart and successful.

          See the Bible for more examples.

          • Svigor

            Precisely. But keep in mind that ANTI-SEMITISM!!! is absolutely vital to Jewish survival. Assimilation has always been the greatest threat to the tribe’s survival. It’s a vicious cycle that Jews (often unconciously) foment themselves (because no one else can be trusted with their survival).

            It’s unfortunately an inevitable component of any people that wants to survive, and one we’re going to have to internalize ourselves.

          • http://www.facebook.com/willard.gage.3 Willard Gage

            I read somewhere that this was openly acknowledged by one of the Israeli leaders when Israel was declared a nation. The big fear was that they would be swallowed up by the arab world. Their strategy has been to alienate the Arabs. As long as the Arabs are attacking them, then the Israeli people will have a siege mentality and it is then that their identity grows stronger.

            In the United States, Jews have been rapidly assimilating. Fifty percent of all Jewish college students have only one Jewish parent. Many Jewish women have also chosen careers over family and have either delayed having children, therefore having much fewer, or not they have not had any at all. Perhaps the efforts to antagonize non Jews with campaigns against things like Christmas trees and nativity displays are motivated by a conscious effort to stir up antisemitism. It seems ironic but in the US, the absence of antisemitism is leading to the assimilation of Jews.

        • Svigor

          And since they’re on their way to becoming a dwindling minority with less and less power, the answers they find will be of no importance.

      • Michael_C_Scott

        How does importing Muslim Arabs, Somalis and the like into the United States make Jews here safer?

        • Steve

          It does not. So called Jewish “leaders” are morons.

        • IstvanIN

          They have taken revenge on the country that has been the most welcoming, the most tolerant, and has given them the most opportunity in the world. Not the smartest thing to do.

        • Barrack Osama

          What are a bunch of bedraggled immigrants going to do to the ivory tower elite? They can avoid the hordes forever, while the common man forever acts as a bulwark for every kind of incoming trouble.

          • Svigor

            I call this the “Wesley Gambit,” after the scene in The Princess Bride; Wesley poisons both cups, because he knows the poison will kill his opponent, but he will survive.

        • Svigor

          Far be it from me to claim telepathy, but here’s my guess:

          1) Jews become a less salient minority in a territory composed of visible minorities.
          2) Power becomes dispersed among many squabbling groups. Divide and conquer, basically.
          3) As these minority groups seek to protect themselves legally and culturally, Jews reap the rewards because they’re a minority too.
          4) Jews love cosmopolitanism.

          • Luca

            Pretty much on the money. They know that in this country rich, white, Christian, heterosexual males still run the show. Anyone they can recruit to break down that power structure is a benefit to them. That’s why the ACLU represents the reprehensible.

          • David Ashton

            There is some truth in this analysis, but they are not enthusiastic about the importation of minorities that dislike Israel and/or Jews, nor the violence and antisemitism of blacks. Their “anti-racism” has been stronger since Hitler than it was before. Why?

          • Michael_C_Scott

            The most cosmopolitan places I have been to are Hong Kong and Singapore, but there are almost no Jews there.

        • Gracchus123

          The more minority groups, the less they stand out.

      • Steve

        There is no plan. Just self appointed so-called “leaders” who are not thinking at all. Religious Jews – who are having all of the children – are strongly opposed to the multi-cultural agenda and this immigration. In 25 -40 years, they will be the majority. Liberal Jews have few children and are intermarrying at an overwhelming rate in any event.

        • http://www.facebook.com/willard.gage.3 Willard Gage

          This is very true. The number of acquaintances I have in the Orthodox Jewish community is rather small, but they are all very conservative politically. Their views are the complete opposite of the secular liberal Jews that I know. The orthodox also have large families, just like the Amish. Five, six, seven children even though the Orthodox as a group are not at all wealthy. Just like the Amish though, they have a tight knit community where there is much social trust. They also do not watch television, and their kids are not allowed to freely roam the internet. Television and public schools are extremely destructive to the world that these communities create for themselves. In fact, one can say that television has been an “idol” that Americans have mistakenly worshipped. One can say that television is a big reason why white birth rates have declined. Many people do not make connections with others the way people did before there was a constant source of entertainment that can be a substitute for companionship. But, it has become even worse still, because now people’s lives are centered around their hand held gadgets, texting, twitting etc.

          • Svigor

            Television has been the psychological and cultural equivalent of global thermonuclear war.

      • mike

        I have believed this to be true for some time now. This perception of themselves as a persecuted minority is also what causes many to push liberal agendas that focus so heavily on minority and individual rights and protection, even to the extent of welfare type programs. Another aspect of this insecurity is their overwhelming support for Israel, a minority in a sea of Arabs and perhaps subconsciously their own last refuge. Unfortunately this loyalty to Israel causes many who might understand their other positions, even if disagreeing, to look suspiciously at their commitment to this country, which of course is one of the major beefs many have with the Latinos and their continuing loyalty to their mother countries. People may not ,for example, know what to think about it when US Jews go to Israel and serve in the IDF, but believe me it raises eyebrows. Seems to me US Jews can either address these issues of dual loyalty straight up or not be surprised when people reach conclusions they do not agree with.

        • Svigor

          The Jews’ perception of themselves as a persecuted minority is proof positive of their extraordinary powers of self-deception. I think it’s an effect of their ethnocentrism, their most salient psychological trait.

      • http://www.facebook.com/willard.gage.3 Willard Gage

        If indeed there is a plan to increase the diversity of this country to make Jews safer, then it is a tragically flawed plan. Diversity has historically lead to conflict and violence. Historically, Jews have always been the scapegoat when trouble does arise. Like I said, if this is a plan, then it is tragically flawed.

        • Svigor

          The whole concept of scapegoating comes to us via the Jews. That aside, the lachrymose Jewish version of history (that now passes for “our” version of history, tragically) is only one half of the story, tendentiously told. For every short burst of scapegoating by the hosts, there is a long history of exploitation by the guests. Shahak touches on this, inter alia. Basically, wherever they went Jews served the nobility of Europe as bailiffs and tax farmers. Owing to their ethnocentrism, cohesiveness and lack of empathy for the native peasants, the nobility found them superior at squeezing resources from the natives, as opposed to the native bailiffs who sympathized more with their own kind.

          The church is illustrative here, too. The lower orders of the church, the friars and such, who had extensive contact with the peasantry, tended to be the source of anti-Semitism within the church; the upper orders, the rich fat cats, were the ones who sided with the nobility and their bailiffs, the Jews. This is why you’ll always hear two different stories about the church vis-a-vis the Jews, depending on who’s talking.

          • David Ashton

            Jews will act as a collective unity only if attacked as a collective unit. This was the Nazi “mistake”.
            Their confidence in their intellectual and social standing has helped to reduce the “lachrymose” self-presentation.
            See e.g. Albert S. Landeman, “Esau’s Tears” (1997).

        • David Ashton

          Are they that stupid or ignorant of their own history?

          As an international people without a proper national homeland, they feel uncomfortable in other homelands if these take to an exclusive nationalism.
          Israel has not proved to be a safe national homeland for the majority of this people, but they have become particularly comfortable in the USA.
          The immigration of foreign communities no longer provides the safety of a diluted nationalism in the host societies because these recent communities are anti-Israel and/or unsympathetic to Jewish interests. Also, Blacks and Muslims are not handicapped by media-encouraged “Holocaust Guilt”.
          We all need to sort out a future-directed strategy to enlist Jewish support for WN positions rather than to unite them by fear of a Nazi revival.

    • http://jewamongyou.wordpress.com/ Reuben H

      Politicians like Obama have given “hope” a bad name. “Hope” often implies good luck, such as in “I hope I win the lottery”. But the hope of white survival must be earned. I can’t give White America hope. White America must create its own hope by changing its attitudes and learning to stand up for itself.

    • fsagas

      Many left wing Jews (outside of Israel criticize the what they see as the “apartheid” state and the injustice done to the Palestinians.

      • Svigor

        Lip service. If Jews as a whole were opposed to the Fatherland in the Levant, it would have gone the way of Apartheid by now.

        • http://www.facebook.com/willard.gage.3 Willard Gage

          Not lip service. Some people actively aid the enemies of Israel. One such person is a lady who organized blockade running ships for Gazans.

          • Svigor

            No, that was two ships passing in the night; your assertion and mine did not intersect. I said “as a whole,” and you gave me an anecdote.

      • Svigor

        Define “many.”

  • You Are Now Enriched

    Is the lack of Diversity in private joo academies just a symbol for borders and fences in Israel?

    • Steve

      No – it is a lack of IQ and discipline by the Diverse. In a religious modern Orthodox Jewish school you are studying Hebrew, Aramaic and Biblical Hebrew along with a full load of normal academics. You study Bible and Jewish law as well. It is several extra hours a day. If a Gentile wanted to suffer through it, be my guest. I did not send my own kids, although I went to Jewish schools and compared to them, my Ivy League university was not terribly taxing. The idea of serious violence at a religious Jewish school would be beyond comprehension.

  • i am

    ““Human trafficking, human torture, and murder of children were phenomena
    that accompanied the parade of illegals that entered the country.”

    How Ironic. A Freudian-Slip

  • PesachPatriot

    Bibi does not mess around. Believe it or not Ron Paul actually got some traction with some younger jews(myself included). I do not think it is anti-semitic to question the policies and existence of the federal reserve. Nor do i feel that questioning Israel’s policies and practices regarding its neighbors is the equivalent of a medieval synagogue burning. There is actually far more criticism of Israeli policies and politicians in the hebrew language press than in the american media. The causes of anti-semitism in this country is the bullshit put out by hollywood like django unchained and jewish names on worthless money. Some jews are pretty rich and successful with lots of political power, some are unadulterated anti-white marxist scum like tim wise, but most of us are merely standing by in deer in headlights shock as the decent America our ancestors came to for a better life is slowly being destroyed.

    Many older jews who grew up in an era before PC can see the savagery coming out of the projects but keep their mouths shut around their younger college educated descendants who have learned to mouth all the right platitudes about the evils of our slaveholding founding fathers and israel’s colonialist aggression against sweet gentle arabs and their peaceful religion of honor killings and hostage taking. I hope this post has been helpful for everyone.

    • IstvanIN

      I feel sorry for folks like you. Unfortunately most folks like me are going to remember the public figures, the Jewish politicians, and the 75-80% of Jewish-Americans who support every anti-American, anti-white, and anti-Christian program of the left.

      • fsagas

        I feel sorry for those who can’t see that Jews are not a hive mind or some collective entity.

        Not to mention many Jews see themselves as white and Judaism as a religion.

        Not everyone endorses the double standard.

        • Sean

          Jews being white is interesting. Many Ashkenazim whose families have been in Europe for centuries are indeed white as the driven snow and can only embrace Judaism culturally. Racially, they are at least very close to white with very high percentages of blond hair/blue eyes.

          Native Israeli Jewry and (I may be incorrect) the Sephardi tribe look and are actually Semitic IE close to Arabs, although I’m sure the irony is lost on them.

          • Svigor

            Whiteness, like so many other concepts, has multiple definitions, including racial, ethnic, and cultural definitions. In my opinion Ashkenazis are fully white only in the grossest sense, that of continental-level race. I.e., as a synonym for Caucasoid (Indians and Arabs are white in this sense, too). They’re half white in the sense that white is a synonym for European, being half European and half Semitic. They’re non-white in the cultural and ethnic senses, though, seeing how the tribe has for generations set itself singularly opposed to White interests, White Ethnopatriotism, White Nationalism, etc. To argue otherwise is to argue that Uncle Toms are somehow as culturally or ethnically black as the Black Panthers.

          • http://www.facebook.com/willard.gage.3 Willard Gage

            Only in YOUR mind are there multiple definitions. But no one has given you authority to decide such things. Even Hitler had over 100,000 soldiers who had some Jewish ancestry. This is documented in a book titled “Hitler’s Jewish Soldiers”

          • Svigor

            Nonsense. White is used in many contexts, which have varied over the years (“white” in some places has meant “British Isles type white,” for example, and excluded Mediterranean Caucasoids). As I wrote above, for a great many white advocates, it means “European,” for which Ashkenazis only half-qualify.

            I think it is the most obvious and ubiquitous context that the term has become the most corrupted, the “Caucasoid” sense; no, I don’t consider Persians and Arabs and Indians and Jews “white.”

            Besides, the “Jews are white” thing is obviously false, on its face; obviously Ethiopian Jews and Sammy Davis Jr are not and were not white.

          • David Ashton

            Some British Isles people have Mediterranean as well as Nordic and Alpine ancestry.

          • Dr. Möbias

            Always the “Hitler” argument, dragged out to intimidate whites. Goodwin was right!

            Funny how people like you claim “white” has multiple definitions and is a “matter of opinion.” But, there is NO problem defining “white” when it comes to affirmative action, the r-word, slavery, colonialism.

            I wish universities would consider “white” a matter of opinion when it comes to admissions standards. I wish they’d lower standards for me like the do for blacks. Maybe I should tell them my “whiteness” has multiple definitions, LOL

          • Svigor

            Actually, Willard was saying it doesn’t have multiple definitions. I maintain that it does.

          • Svigor

            Anecdotes aside, DNA studies to date show Ashkenazi Jewry as its own cluster, about halfway between European and Semitic.

          • Sean

            The IQ differential between Europeans and native Israelis, 100 vs. 92, and Ashkenazim, 106(?), remains confusing. Eugenic breeding habits perhaps?

          • Svigor

            There’s a substantial difference in mean IQ of Ashkenazis in the diaspora (c. 110) and Ashkenazis in Israel (c. 104), too. It’s a selection effect; the smart ones know where the money is.

        • IstvanIN

          Well, you are wrong about the hive mentality. Jewish-Americans do support, over overwhelmingly, the most anti-traditional America policies, Only good old Christian-Americans seem to have differences of opinion among themselves to any great degree.

          • fsagas

            By that logic any white person or anyone in general, has a hive mentality. Because people vote for policy semi collectively doesn’t mean they’re “hive minded.”

            By that logic then every Jewish person agrees with each other (which isn’t true). There would be no parties in Israel because everyone with be “hive minded” like bugs in Starship troopers. Different parties means people have different opinions.

            People can have instinctual group interest but if that is “hive minded” then by that logic any white nationalist is hive minded.

          • Kyle

            Nonsense! Jews (Askhenaz Khazars included) are an Asiatic group who are a distinct ethno-racial group DISTINCT from white Europeans. Just because many of them have lived in Europe for almost 1,700 years, that does NOT make them white or European, no different from Asiatic gypsies who have been in Europe for about the same period of time.

            DNA studies show Askhenaz Jews ( Turko-Asiatic tribe with some Semitic DNA) to have a distinct DNA which separates whites from Jews. Even the highest rated Israeli newspaper confirms that Jews ARE A DISTINCT RACE!

            http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/dna-links-prove-jews-are-a-race-says-genetics-expert-1.428664

          • Svigor

            The Khazars thing is a myth, ginned up by a proud Ashkenazi (Arthur Koestler) who wanted to deflect “accusations” of genetic purity (and an interest in same) on the part of the tribe by cooking up a bit of ahistorical nonsense about Ashkenazi “diversity.”

          • Kyle

            So does that mean Askhenazi “Jews” are not really related to the original dark skinned middle eastern Mizrahi Jews of Israel?

        • Svigor

          John Hartung:

          In-groups sandwich an outline for animosity, an organizing principle for
          prejudice, between layers of social support. Whether Christian or
          Muslim or Jewish, every extremist is supported by a small number of less
          extreme admirers and each of those supporters is buoyed, in turn, by a
          larger group of sympathizers. These connections are continuous right
          down to the bottom of the pyramid, where vaguely sympathetic in-group
          members are offended by the very extremists who would have no base, and
          no basis, without them. It is that vague sympathy which needs to be
          examined.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jack-Ryan/100000772975435 Jack Ryan

      Yeah, OK. But American Jews still vote over 75 percent BRA Obama. All Jewish American Congressmen and Senators have failing NumbersUSA immigration grades.

      I am old enough to remember the hope White American Conservatives had about the Jewish Neo Conservative movement. Jews were supposedly coming over to our side. yeah right.

    • toldev

      The people who denounce fed critics as anti-semitic are actually fueling the antisemitism they claim to oppose. There already is a widespread idea that the fed is a Jewish cartel. When some fed critics are denounced as anti-Semites, they take it as a tacit admission on the part of the name caller that the fed is in fact a Jewish cartel.

  • guest

    So it’s okay for the Israelis to reject illegal immigration, but every other country has to accept it? Can anyone else see the hypocrisy here?

    • Steve

      You don’t seem to understand the meaning of the word hypocrisy. ISRAELIS do not care if America builds a fence. Israelis would support it. Israelis would support a fence for Greece, they would try and sell them their fencing solution. Israelis completely understand why a country would not want a parade of illegal aliens. Israelis refused to criticize Germany or anyone in Europe for cracking down on Muslim immigration. That was one of the lesser Kennedy morons from Mass. Israelis are not hypocrites at all. They say a fence is good for them and for everyone. They are not liberal American Jews, they are not left wing at all. Instead of criticizing them, you should emulate them. What works there can work here.

      • Skincognito

        So similar to Israel’s maintaining diplomatic relations with South Africa during Apartheid, while the chosen diaspora in the West, East and Australia opposed it vigorously, this current incongruity is mere circumstance? How about the new exodus of Jews back to Germany, especially die Hauptstadt des Reichs. How many of these immigrant Jews would support German secession from the EU, in order to accomplish the same goals professed by Bibi? How many would support a proposal to make Tag der deutschen Einheit a proper national holiday? How many would protest the erection of new minarets? Nothing personal, but be realistic, aliens are our enemy, just as they are yours.

      • Svigor

        By the same token, Israelis are fine being bosom-buddies with American Jewry. American Jewry and Israeli Jewry are BFFs. They’re just fine with American Jewry selling us down the river.

      • Svigor

        Also, I think you’re the one who misunderstands hypocrisy. American Jews are the vanguard, the brain trust, and the bankers to the movement to dismantle and prevent anything remotely similar to Israel for whites, but they’re also the vanguard, brain trust, and bankers to the movement supporting the Israeli ethno-state.

        That’s textbook hypocrisy. It’s ethnic supremacism.

        • Dr. Möbias

          Only a very sick, psychopathic culture would promote the genocide of white people and justify it to whites as in their best interests. This is precisely what the media, Hollywood, Harvard and other academic institutes do when they push multiculturalism, diveristiy and white race replacement as a great thing , but then turn around and support Israel as for Jews only.

          It IS textbook hypocrisy and ethnic supremacism and we must keep pointing this out again and again and again, even when our posts are taken down here on AR.

          We whites are in a fight for our survival, people. We are being genocided everywhere we exist.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/NQHEAYZCMBOERHG2VZRDQ3YUSQ Felix

            “Only a very sick, psychopathic culture would promote the genocide of white people and justify it to whites as in their best interests.”

            And only very sick, psychopathic white people would accept their own genocide as in their best interests.

          • Dr. Möbias

            Shows how deep the brainwashing is doesn’t it?

            After 50 years of relentless, mind-numbing assault on whites as the evil of the world from television, movies, newspapers, schools this is not the surprising result. Also any talk of white survival or white advocacy is met with screams of Nazi and it doesn’t change the fact that shilling for our genocide is evil.

            I wish more would stand up and call for the genocide of whites, it might wake up a few more before it’s too late. The Jews and their anti-White agenda ought to be hammered away at mercilessly, with their nefarious and criminal anti-White activities constantly exposed.

            Looking at discussion forums on mainstream newspaper sites shows that whites are finally waking up. It’s about time.

    • OlderWoman

      Look to the UN involvement. UN doesn’t like Israel. Obama’s America is deeply embedded in the UN and the New World Odor. I side with Israel in the matter.

      • Svigor

        I side with my own kind. That means I side with Israel only insofar as it helps my own kind. That means unconditional support is categorically off the table. It means that every time I express support for Israel, I also mention International Jewry’s* hypocrisy and supremacism, leftism’s (and conservatism’s) utter cowardice and venality on these issues, etc.

        *(that coinage makes perfect sense in this context, fashion and historical baggage notwithstanding)

        • Dr. Möbias

          Precisely. Jews have many large, ethno-specific, well-funded organizations that will fight for their interests, including Harvard, the NY Times and Hollywood which at the same time fight viciously against white organizing themselves for advocacy.

          This is the very definition of hypocrisy.

          • razorrare

            “If you want to know who it is that oppresses & rules over you, simply ask yourself who it is you are not permitted to criticize,”—-Voltaire

            or words to that affect…

  • Luca

    Well Mr. Netanyahu, apparently you are not aware that rapes, murders, kidnapping, drugs, carjackings and human trafficking are but a small price to pay for the cultural enrichment you receive in return. We’ll send jimmy Carter over to school you sir.

    • Kostoglotov

      He is fully aware of that. That was actually what was happening when there were thousands of Sudanese illegals in Israel. Unlike Europeans and Americans, Israelis refused to accept this situation as the necessary price to be paid for “diversity.” They protested in the streets and pressured their leaders to get the Sudanese illegals out of their neighborhoods.

      • Svigor

        I bet they didn’t have to fight their way through 60 years of mass media propaganda against their own survival, a gov’t hostile to same, etc.

        *Checks*…nope, they didn’t.

        • http://www.facebook.com/willard.gage.3 Willard Gage

          I bet you spend more time on the stormfront website than you do here.

      • http://www.facebook.com/willard.gage.3 Willard Gage

        Yes, the numbers of rapes of Israeli women went through the roof, and the rapists were always the Sudanese and other Africans. Robberies and violent crime also skyrocketed. The Africans were a violent parasite on the Israeli body.

        • Steve

          Israel has virtually zero Jewish violent crime. So the excuse went nowhere. The Africans with their left wing enablers tried all kinds of b.s. But Israelis are so used to being called racists by the Arabs and left wing Europeans and third world types, the word has no impact on them. They will now proceed to get rid of the ones who are there – sleeping in parks, begging, Stealing, raping,etc.

          • http://www.facebook.com/willard.gage.3 Willard Gage

            Yeah, the day that white Americans embrace the label of “racist” is the day we start fighting back. The fear of being called “racist” is paralyzing us.

          • Svigor

            The need is to embrace the ideas behind “racism,” not necessarily the label. IMO it’s good enough to be immune to the stigma; embracing the label is not necessary. I do in some contexts, depending on the situation, but I’m more comfortable in turning the label ’round and using it against our enemies.

          • Svigor

            On the other hand, it is a Mecca for non-violent crime (though human trafficking and prostitution stretch the definition of “non-violent”). Part of the problem is the ingrained diaspora mentality of Jews; they’ve been living amongst the “friers” (suckers) for so long, their behavioral genetics seem to have adapted, and now they can’t help but prey on one another in the absence of more convenient, alien populations.

          • Steve

            Well I lived in Israel for several years while working for a large defense contractor. So I think I have a decent understanding of Israelis. It is a tough place to live, but I would not say they prey on each other. They are in your face and like to mix it up for sure, and an Israeli man has no problem getting into a fight – from youth they are trained to stand up for themselves, take care of things themselves – but they are also incredibly caring for one another. They remind you most of the Scotch Irish in America by personality. Neighbors all know each other, help each other and everyone looks after children, who roam freely on the streets. (in a good way) They hate being freiers – – but they willingly serve one month a year in the reserves. That is no easy thing. it is a strange place. You have to experience it to even understand it a little bit. The ultra ultra religious are an issue but one I think will get resolved. The experience there is utterly alien to the American Jewish experience.

          • Svigor

            What did you think of the link? Did you read any of the articles?

    • http://www.facebook.com/willard.gage.3 Willard Gage

      enrichment?…oh, you mean “rap” “music”

  • Dave4088

    Amazing indeed. Now if only Israel’s politically powerful diaspora population in America will allow the white majority to deport its illegals and build a real border fence then maybe our problems would disappear, too.

  • IstvanIN

    What this tells us is that what US politicians say is impossible is possible if the will is there. Israel still has the will to survive. Our elites do not.

    • Svigor

      Indeed, I do love the Israelis for viciously thumbing the eye of leftism and liberalism every chance they get. Israel is the refutation of both, in the form of a state. And it’s Jews, the brain trust of the left, who are doing it! Beautiful!

      Anyone who’s paying attention knows Israel reveals liberalism as a shabby lie.

      • joey

        You finally said something nice about the Jews. They are a split decision. Israel is on the front lines against Jihad. Look how the Euro nations weaken for Muslim invaders

        • Svigor

          There’s lots of nice things to say about the Jews. But they are already so very accomplished at mentioning them all, at every opportunity. :) And then there are their so very numerous water-carriers, also occupied with the same endeavor. They have all those bases covered, I think. I’m more of a “go where I’m needed” kind of guy.

          I’m sure Kevin MacDonald feels the same way; his books are criticised for not “balancing” out their criticism of Jews with praise. Never mind the overall imbalance the praise would be contributing to (“societal balance bad, book balance good” seems to be the “message.”). As if the Culture of Critique he so ably outlines ever concerned itself with “balance,” lol.

    • Dr. Möbias

      They are perfectly capable of defending themselves after we give them 3B/year and the latest military hardware.

      Let them fight their own wars. It’s high time we Americans stopped fighting proxy wars for Israel.

  • PesachPatriot

    IstvanIN…it is nice of you to feel sorry for me…I have already pretty much accepted the fact that I will probably die the horrible painful violent bloody death of so many of my ancestors trying to defend my family from either hungry angry bantus or stormfronters when the SHTF…the anger on these boards and others towards people like ben bernanke, tim geithner, tim wise, the weinstein brothers and saul alinsky is pretty legitimate. I often tell some of my relatives that if I wasn’t born into our little tribe I’d probably be pretty miffed at jews myself. Given the air of tension in this country I would actually prefer to take my chances amongst my relatives in Israel. When I was a kid and read Holocaust books I often wonder what the jews back then did to make the Germans so angry….The actions of the people mentioned above make it pretty clear now.

    It actually infuriates me because about 70 years ago white americans, descendants of Revolutionary Patriots, Union and Confederate soldiers, stormed the beaches of Normandy and liberated Dachau and Bergen Belsen. The state of Israel never would have come in to being without American support and the shylock number crunchers of wall street repaid them by raping this country to the last nickel….It makes me even sicker when gated community academic cultural marxists on ivy covered college campuses make excuses for the savage attacks and murders of elderly, white WWII vets. I understand why some of us were initially attracted to communism/socialism when the Czar was still around, I do not understand young jews who are attracted to it today after so much failure and death in so many societies. Also, for what its worth I really can’t stand Noam Chomsky…If you guys ever get this place back in line please deport him to the muslim paradise of his choice.

    I just hope all you guys realize that not all non-Whites, non-Christians are your enemies…jews, asians and even some native amerindians and legal hispanic citizens realize that it wasn’t white people who wrecked this country…

    • fsagas

      I consider myself white and I have part Jew in me.

      I’d really wish you not push the extreme right here further.

    • Sean

      It’s good to hear and most of us aren’t rabid anti-semites but the fact that your people have done terrible things to the nation that my forefathers built is truly an atrocity. Personally, I’m only an egalitarian in the way that I think all treasonous bastards should pay, regardless of race, creed, or ethnicity. A traitor is a traitor and you sir, do not seem to be one of them.

      My only question is: if you consider yourself not white (Jewish) and are on a nationalist website, why are you not in Israel?

      • http://www.facebook.com/willard.gage.3 Willard Gage

        Our current demographic situation is the result of Ted Kennedy’s Immigration and Nationality act of 1965

        • Beloved Comrade

          Ted Kennedy was the face and window dressing of the 1965 immigration flood bill. The 1965 immigration act (Celler-Hart, NOT Kennedy Bill) was fronted by Kennedy, he ushered it through congress, but was too drunk and unintelligent to write it.

          Jews have been “the single most persistent pressure group favoring a liberal immigration policy” in the United States in the entire immi-gration debate beginning in 1881 (Neuringer 1971, 392–393).

          http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/CofCchap7.pdf

          In undertaking to sway immigration policy in a liberal direction, Jewish spokespersons Congressman Emanuel Celler, fought for unrestricted immigration for over 40 years in the House of Representatives, introduced similar legislation resulting in the ‘Cellar-Hart Immigration Bill,’ the precursor to the fatal bill of 1965…”

          • Dr. Möbias

            Correct. It infuriates me when I see Ted Kennedy blamed for the 1965 Immigration Flood Act that effectively dismantled this country and set it on a path to destruction. There are now 100 million hostile non-whites in a formerly 90% white country that was created for and by whites.

            We must not lose site of WHO did this to us and why, while old Ted was off boozing and chasing women. I’ve always felt he was blackmailed into playing his roll as the front man for the evil 1965 Act. That goes for LBJ too.

            “Most important for the content of immigration reform [i.e., anti-restrictionism], the driving force at the core of the movement, reaching back to the 1920s, were Jewish organizations long active in opposing racial and ethnic quotas. These included the American Jewish Congress, the American Jewish Committee, the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith, and the American Federation of Jews from Eastern Europe. Jewish members of the Congress, particularly representatives from New York and Chicago, had maintained steady but largely ineffective pressure against the national origins quotas since the 1920s…. Following the shock of the Holocaust, Jewish leaders had been especially active in Washington in furthering immigration reform. To the public, the most visible evidence of the immigration reform drive was played by Jewish legislative leaders, such as Representative Celler and Senator Jacob Javits of New York.”

            http://www.amazon.com/Collision-Course-Convergence-Affirmative-Immigration/dp/0195168895/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1240003349&sr=1-6

          • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

            The “Hart” in Hart-Cellar was Irish.

          • IstvanIN

            The Irish-Catholics in this country have a hatred of Protestants, not as much as they hate the English, but darn close.

          • OlderWoman

            I, an English Scotch-Irish Protestant, was told this recently by an Irish Roman Catholic. She also told me they ‘hate the Jews’. She was rather matter of fact about it. I knew this of course, but it was the first time it was verified to me by a Catholic.

          • Dr. Möbias

            Which Irish Catholic organizations advocated to flood this country with non-whites? The bill was written by Javits and Celler and then pushed by the American Jewish Congress, the American Jewish Committee, the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith, and the American Federation of Jews from Eastern Europe.

            Which equivalent Irish political groups pushed for an increase in immigration, provided lawyers and contributed vast amounts of money?

            “Hart” is an anecdote.

          • Svigor

            I don’t make excuses for the likes of Kennedy and LBJ; I simply see them as collaborators and Uncle Toms.

          • Dr. Möbias

            Useful idiots is what I call them. They were not the instigators of the 1965 immigration flood bill that changed the demographics of this country.

          • Svigor

            Yes, I use “useful idiots” a lot, too. IMO the rank and file of the democrat party and liberalism in general are useful idiots.

    • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

      There might be a book called To Serve Humanity somewhere in my possession, but it’s not a cookbook! I have no intention of eating the named people you mention. Fortunately, factoring most of the gentlemen you name out of my life is as easy as pushing an off button or some functional equivalent. But we just can’t turn off Ben Bernanke and Tim Geithner, who have control over monetary and fiscal policy.

    • Svigor

      When I was a kid and read Holocaust books I often wonder what the Jews back then did to make the Germans so angry….The actions of the people mentioned above make it pretty clear now.

      Jews like yourself have been leaving the tribe for thousands of years. Far too “reasonable” (scare-quoted because being “unreasonable” is a survival trait and has been working for Jews for as long as Jews like you have been leaving the tribe). Introspection of this kind is not welcome in the tribe.

      I agree with you about the parallels between Weimar Germany and modern America.

      I just hope all you guys realize that not all non-Whites, non-Christians are your enemies…jews, asians and even some native amerindians and legal hispanic citizens realize that it wasn’t white people who wrecked this country…

      Too true. You’re obviously a Righteous Jew. Have you considered apostasy?

    • OlderWoman

      My father who was well-read, once remarked to me that some Jews in Germany betrayed them and that was why it laid the ground for the holocaust. Out of this sprang anti-Jew sentiment. I’m not stating this as fact. I regret not asking him to loan me the book.

    • http://www.facebook.com/willard.gage.3 Willard Gage

      The Holocaust came after the Holodomor. Read up on what that was. The rumors of the atrocities that were committed and still being committed by the Bolsheviks in Russia sent waves of fear through Christian Europe. The fact that there were many communist organizations in the rest of Europe, trying to accomplish similar things did not help matters, especially since Jews figured prominently in al these organizations. One such example is Bela Kun and his short lived but bloody Hungarian revolution.

      • IstvanIN

        The revolution of ’56 was more of an anti-Jewish revolt than anything else. The Jews ran Hungary after the war and were in charge of the secret police. Imre Nagy was a devoted communist but felt Hungary should be run by Hungarians.

        • Svigor

          Jews’ role in communism was very much a natural extension of their role in medieval Europe, to which I referred in another comment to this thread. Basically, the Soviets used alien peoples to rule over their satellite states, because aliens tend to feel less sympathy toward natives (and less sympathy from them), and more loyalty to the home office. They could thus be counted on to be more ruthless in rooting out and suppressing dissent. This went double for the Jews, because of their heightened ethnocentrism.

    • toldev

      American Jews and white liberals are both blissfully ignorant to the realities of diversity. It is easy to be that way when your only contact with diversity is the television and the token who is well house broken. Jews in Israel face a very different reality. They are in a very bad neighborhood geographically and have no delusions of equity as a result. As the United States gets browner, liberals, Jew or Christian, are going to have to face reality. When that happens, I would expect many liberals to abandon their egalitarian ideals. The question is: How bad do things have to get before people wake up?

      • Svigor

        Why doesn’t Israel import thousands of high-IQ Chinamen and Latin Americans? They don’t blow up pizza parlors.

    • Svigor

      I often tell some of my relatives that if I wasn’t born into our little tribe I’d probably be pretty miffed at Jews myself.

      Funny, I often wonder how my beliefs would’ve turned out if I had been born into the tribe. I vacillate between thinking I’d be a Righteous Jew or apostate/convert to WNism, and thinking I’d be a hard-line Jewish supremacist long since having made Aliyah.

      It would certainly make for easier choices and less personal sacrifice.

  • anarchyst

    It is in zionist nature (and statements) that jews fear a white majority. Their (partially self-inflicted) “holocaust ™” is not enough of an “excuse” for me. The “holocaust ™” card is no different than the “race card” that blacks and other minorities use to stifle honest discussion and dissenting opinions.
    The weaknesss in white culture is the altruism that we project in order to be “fair”. Make NO mistake–EVERY other race (jews included) looks after their own interests FIRST. Our altruism (pushed along by the “greatest generation”) has been our undoing along with the brainwashing of our young people (by those in the education and cultural establishments) for the last 60 years or so.
    The solution is to declare our independence (once again) but on a racial level. It will take much hard work but is doable. Form networks with like-minded individuals, being careful to “vet” every potential prospect to “weed out” law enforcement and government provocateurs.

    • Guest

      It’s not the conventional concept of altruism that is so destructive. The notion of unconditional altruism is what has taken us away from our primal instincts to survive and grow. We need borders, standards and limitations with our altruism to keep it from supplanting our most important[primal] instincts; just like we need borders, standards and limitation within our nation in order to protect our race and culture from being supplanted.

      • Svigor

        Indeed. Internalizing the concept of ingroup (or “dual”) morality is the only way for whites to survive as a people. All of the race that refuses will pass into some other racial state of existence (i.e., they’ll mongrelize), leaving only the whites with a strongly internalized ingroup morality.

        Ironically, this may be the only way that the exceptional white altruism survives.

  • Bill

    A common sense measure good for the joo in Israel, but NOT for the WASP in America apparently. When we try to do it, the joo in America pitches a fit.

  • Le Gaulois

    You can’t have your cake and eat it too. Either you fully consider yourself White or get out.

    Your faith and your tribe is nothing but a charade and looking at yourself and your child is all you need to know about what you really are. Pale blue eyed Jews have nothing more to do with the ancient Hebrews than modern Italians have to do with the ancient Romans. The Jewish faith is also no more believable than Roman or Scandinavian mythologies and it’s past time you guys stop clinging to your made up fairy tales to define your identity. Everybody is free to believe in whatever they want, but one’s faith has absolutely nothing to do with one’s race. They are plenty of black, mexican, asian Christians, and they aren’t White people.

    Your ancestors left the Middle East way too long ago to still pretend that Israel belongs to you and that you share the same DNA. You have mixed with White Europeans for centuries and that’s what you mostly are now.

    And please enough already with the “oven” and “Auschwitz” references which do nothing but confirm the insincerity of your previous posts. Way more non-Jewish innocent civilians died of atrocious deaths before and during WW2, and you certainly don’t have the monopoly on genocide.

    Make up your mind and accept what you truly are, or you will find seldom sympathy among White nationalists once again…

    • http://www.facebook.com/willard.gage.3 Willard Gage

      It sounds like he does “fully consider himself to be white”. I think he has made up his mind who he is, at least it sounds to me like he has, and he considers himself to be a white American. It is you that is saying to him that you don’t like him because he’s Jewish. You sound rather unhinged to me and it is people like you that will do our movement more harm than good. Your post actually confirms the point that he has made, that even if he converted to a different religion, you would still consider him to be “insincere” and suspect. Don’t for a second think that your personal hostilities and hatreds are shared by anymore than a handful of posters here. You are not on the “stormfront” website.

      • Beloved Comrade

        There are thousands of organizations, groups, and laws trying to help out non-whites, including Jews.

        There are none preventing the genocide of white children.

        Your perception of the world is extremely distorted.

      • Svigor

        There is one way to be both Jewish and a WN, but it’s one of those “eye of the needle things,” and in practice always asks too much of the applicant. Basically, “WN Jews” have to devote all of their WN activities to opposing Jewry’s anti-White project. I have yet to encounter such a critter; they all spend too much time defending their tribe’s malfeasance to qualify.

        Now, it’s perfectly possible for a Jew to be a Righteous Jew, I’ve encountered plenty of those, but that’s not at all the same thing; they’re allies, but not inside our tent – not us.

    • Svigor

      Indeed, the Bible is correct that a man cannot serve two masters. One day the tribe may come around to reason and stop being our primary opponent, but until that day comes, we’re definitely talking about two distinct masters who are hostile to one another. And it’s impossible to serve both.

  • http://www.facebook.com/willard.gage.3 Willard Gage

    Hitler actually had as many as perhaps 150,000 men in his army that were half Jewish. There is a book about this called “Hitler’s Jewish Soldiers”. The man used for their propaganda posters as an example of the ideal German soldiers was in fact half Jewish, his name was Werner Goldberg. But yes, aside from that fact you are correct, even families that had been converted from Judaism to Catholicism for a generation or two were considered Jewish. For some reason, the children of families of Jewish to Catholic converts usually married the children of other such families.

    • Svigor

      “For some reason”=marrano, i.e., crypto-Jew.

  • http://www.facebook.com/willard.gage.3 Willard Gage

    Hey, I consider you and other Jews to be white. I’m well aware that there are many liberal Jews that are hostile to Christian America but I am also aware that there are many Jews that are not liberal and are very loyal to this country. There are two temples in a mostly Jewish town in my state that I have been to. In one temple in their glass display case they have pictures of the men from the temple who are in the military or who have served in the military. The temple is conservative. Then there is another temple, reformed, where the service includes a hippy style guitar playing that sounds eerily like the hippy teacher, “Mr Van Dreesen” from “Beavis and Butthead”, their display cases are filled with tchotchkes. I had the feeling this was a wacko temple, from the kum-bye-yah guitar singalong alone, and I asked someone from the town and they said yeah, ultra liberals go there.

    • Svigor

      I can honestly say many are white, too, but only in a semantic sense; in the sense of “white” that means “qualified to be a WN,” no.

  • PesachPatriot

    Le Gaulois…why should I convert to a religion i don’t really believe in? Besides, if me or other jews did that then you would just think of us as a fifth column in whatever religion we converted to…I do not think we have a monopoly on genocide…that particular lovely human activity has been going on for centuries and almost everyone has been on the pointy end of that stick at some point during history….the Armenians may have actually had it worse than us during WWI…One of the best Hitler quotes from the Wansee conference was actually in response to a subordinate who asked him if they could really get away with the Final Solution…the Fuhrer replied “Who today recalls the fate of the Armenians?” This is also why i don’t understand the enthusiasm some WN’s have for Adolf…he ended up killing far more white americans, germans, russians, slavs, french, greeks and brits than he ever killed jews, because most of the worlds jewish population was still in the muslim countries before 1948.

    Willard gage…thanks for sticking up for me…I like the description of the two temples…The rabbi who ran the reform synagogue in NY i attended as a youngster was also a mr. van driesen type(Beavis and Butthead is one of my favorite TV shows). My dad actually walked out of a sermon he gave one Yom Kippur during the 90’s because he stared going on about the Oslo peace process….My dad was not amused by political speeches on the most solemn day of our calendar. Maybe our religious myths are as outlandish as those of the romans or scandinavians but it was the faith that sustained us and kept us pushing forward during generations of exile. I actually care a lot more about America than whatever goes on in Israel. When the EBT riots get started the bantus will consider me and my family just one more group of Yt’s to be looted and assaulted. I believe the black comedian chris rock said it best “Black people don’t hate jews, black people hate white people…we ain’t got time to be splitting you up into little groups…I ain’t never been in a barbershop and heard brothers bitchin about jews” According to negro logic we are lumped in with white people whether we consider ourselves white or not.

    • Svigor

      Le Gaulois…why should I convert to a religion i don’t really believe in?

      You’ve already admitted that you’re a secular Jew, anyway, right? That you don’t believe in God? So why not become a secular Christian? That’s what I am; I don’t believe in God or practice any faith, but I line up with the Christians in cultural and political matters, in the ethnic sense.

      Truth be told, I don’t care what religion you follow; I’m just pointing out the “two masters” thing. There is a path for (some) Jews to join our tribe, but it involves leaving the Jewish tribe. There’s no “cake and eat it too” path here; one must choose one, and discard the other.

      And I must confess, there isn’t (currently) much to tempt Jews like yourself away from the Jewish table; all the good food is there at the moment, what with our still being at the stage where we’re building the table, and all. :)

  • Anon

    I’m literally disgusted that this atrocious lie was reprinted on Amren without challenge. Yes….we all know how israel promotes open borders in every white country while clamping down firmly as an ethnostate. So what. It’s the former that is troubling, not the latter.

    Not even close to being the important issue. What IS the issue is that israel is the center for human trafficking in the world….especially the nastier forms of trafficking involving murdering children from other countries (particularly white children from old soviet bloc countries) as they disappear into israel as adoptions. This children are carved up for their organs and sold on the black market…..and israel didn’t even have the decency to lie about it. What they did do was intimidate countries that would seek revenge for this by stationing US troops all over the place.

    Recently, a rabbi here in NJ was caught laundering money for these ghoulish acts of unmitigated evil. The only reason he was caught was his own son couldn’t live with the shame anymore and turned him in. His father and the rest of the community turn their backs to him..

    And then, of course, there is this:

    http://www.prothink.org/2012/12/13/italian-russian-police-break-up-child-snuff-porn-ring/

    Italian, Russian Police Break Up Child Snuff Porn Ring

    Jewish Gangsters Raped, Killed Children As Young As Two On Film

    Date: 25 Nov 2005

    Rome, Italy — Italian and Russian police, working together, broke up a

    ring of Jewish gangsters who had been involved in the manufacture of

    child rape and snuff pornography.

    Three Russian Jews and eight Italian Jews were arrested after police

    discovered they had been kidnapping non-Jewish children between the

    ages of two and five years from Russian orphanages, raping the

    children, and then murdering them on film. Mostly non-Jewish customers,

    including 1,700 nationwide, 600 in Italy, and an unknown number in the

    United States, paid as much as $20,000 per film to watch little

    children being raped and murdered.

    Jewish officials in a major Italian news agency tried to cover the

    story up, but were circumvented by Italian news reporters, who

    broadcast scenes from the films live at prime time on Italian

    television to more than 11 million Italian viewers. Jewish officials

    then fired the executives responsible, claiming they were spreading

    “blood libel.”

    Throughout history, various groups have accused sects of Jews of

    ritually murdering small children. One such account, that of Hugh of

    Lincoln, led to the expulsion of all Jews from Britain in the 13th

    Century. Such accounts have generally been discounted, but are so

    widespread that Jewish organizations have developed a name for them –

    “blood libel.”

    Though AP and Reuters both ran stories on the episode, US media

    conglomerates refused to carry the story on television news, again

    saying the story would prejudice Americans against Jews.

    Jewish gangsters in Russia have become increasingly linked to traffic

    in “white slaves” and prostitutes through Israel, according to a recent

    report in the Jerusalem Post. Israel turns an official blind eye to

    forced prostitution, and does not punish Israeli citizens who choose to

    own “sex slaves” as long as the slaves are foreign and non-Jews.

    • Beloved Comrade

      Thanks for posting.

      For years now the alphabet networks have been doing reports almost every single week about pedophile Catholic priests and how the Pope supposedly covered it all up (he is a former Hitler Youth, you know). Yet pedophilia in the Jewish community is covered up, ignored or brushed aside, until recently.

      NEW YORK — A respected religious counselor in New York’s ultra-orthodox Jewish community was convicted Monday of repeatedly sexually abusing a young girl who had come to him with questions about her faith.

      The Brooklyn courtroom was silent as the foreman said jurors had found Nechemya Weberman guilty of 59 counts, including sustained sex abuse of a child, endangering the welfare of a child and sexual abuse. He faces 25 years in prison on the top charge and may get more time when he is sentenced on Jan. 9.

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/10/nechemya-weberman-orthodox-guilty_n_2272669.html

      A CBS news article reports from New York: “The issue of child sexual abuse cuts across all ethnic and religious lines. But some say in the Hasidic and Orthodox Jewish communities of Brooklyn, the problem is compounded by religious taboos that make reporting abusers to police very rare. They say it is a secret and that children continue to suffer.”

      “There have been 85 arrests in the community in recent years.”

      http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/03/28/victims-father-determined-to-break-cycle-of-abuse-in-brooklyns-hasidic-orthodox-communities/

    • Svigor

      I’m literally disgusted that this atrocious lie was reprinted on Amren without challenge. Yes….we all know how israel promotes open borders in every white country while clamping down firmly as an ethnostate. So what. It’s the former that is troubling, not the latter.

      I see the fact that Jewry is the vanguard of the open-borders anti-nationalist movement in the west, and runs an ethno-state for themselves as the salient fact here, not just one part of the sentence or the other.

  • Beloved Comrade

    If the lessons of the Holocaust are that genocide is evil and the best defense against genocide is to have one’s own state, then this lesson applies to us too.

    We Whites will cease to exist as a people if we do not have control over our own borders and destinies. It is time for a new nationalism. Our destiny is not tied to what happened in the Second World War. We’re over it. We’ve moved on.

    Jews are no longer being subjected to active, ongoing genocide, but we are.

    • Svigor

      Well said.

  • Beloved Comrade

    Should Jews be considered Whites?

    Jews typically do not identify with the people and culture of Christian Europe and its offshoots; traditional Jewish attitudes conceptualize Judaism as separate from White, Christian society; partly because of their lack of identification with non-White Christian culture, Jewish groups have led the campaign to remove Christianity from the public square

    There is a long history of very mainstream Jewish activism and identity that sees Christian Europe as an evil outgroup responsible for a long history of persecuting Jews; an important aspect of Jewish self-conception in America.

    Jews are a relatively powerful group that has often been in competition with non-Jewish Europeans

    Jewish ethnic activism typically excludes non-Jewish Whites and favors Jews, as in the appointment of Elena Kagan and the Jewish campaign to increase Jewish enrollment in Ivy League universities.

    As a result, the distinction between Jew and non-Jewish White is of considerable real world importance.

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/12/ron-unz-on-the-illusory-american-meritocracy/

  • Svigor

    Not true; the NSDAP, the supposed high-water mark of anti-Semitism, was full of quarter-Jews. The Nuremberg laws basically classified people as German if they had more German grandparents than Jewish grandparents. I can’t remember its specifics, but I do know quarter-Jews were definitely considered German.

    And again, that’s the supposed high-water mark; the vast majority of WNs in the west today are not as stringent (though a significant minority are more so, but all movements have their fanatics).

    • toldev

      Erhard Milch was a full Jew and a field marshal in the Nazi regime. After the war he was convicted of war crimes and sentenced to life imprisonment.

  • PesachPatriot

    Svigor….some one further up on this thread mentioned something about being allies, the smarter jews in this country(many have gone very dull due to the lack of danger for us here, as opposed to Europe a hundred years ago) see the writing on the wall…the FRN is not long for this world and we have seen hundreds of currencies collapse and the dollar will be the worst of all because when other currencies crashed there was still a functioning US to pick up the slack and help restore the destroyed economy(Like the marshall plan for europe after WWII)

    We also see how the jihad fever in the middle east has been inflamed over the last 12 years or so….the events in the arab spring and iran’s race to acquire nukes makes the mohammedans think that the Mahdi and their final conquest of the earth will happen soon…Once they conquer Israel(due to the stupidity of so many of their native-born leftists) they’ll be looking to reconquer spain and former ottoman territory in the balkans.

    All I am saying is that when the EBT riots start don’t assume that every synagogue or house with a mezuzah is your enemy…many will shelter you, assist you and stand shoulder to shoulder in the defense of the Constitution. I love America and the Founding Fathers as much as many of you. I’m no Einstein but i have read a few history books and see the breaking point this country is racing towards. I guess i wouldn’t consider myself a WN but I am pretty conservative and would be filed under Constitutionalist/Patriot/Anti-Fed/Libertarian….but very pro-white america and for isolationism(bring home troops to guard mexican border and deport illegals), probably more so than most white gentile libtards on college campuses. The only things i could call myself liberal on would be legalizing gay marriage(I don’t care what two consenting adults do in their own bedrooms) and legalizing cannabis(plants don’t kill people, aspiring rappers and athletes do) Interesting discussion.

    • Svigor

      Obviously “friend” and “enemy” are, like most things concerning people, matters of degree. And as I said elsewhere, I have no problem at all with the concept of Righteous Jews or Jewish allies. My basic point in referring to Jews as enemies or opponents is twofold:

      1) Historical: two thousand years of history are instructive. Wise men ignore such a long history at their peril.
      2) Identity: just as Jews have every right to define who they consider members of their tribe, so too do European peoples have the right to define themselves and their memberships, even to the point of excluding fellow Europeans, or even their own countrymen. This is a basic human right, and not up for negotiation.

      Of course a conservative Jew and a WN would have more in common with each other than either would with a bantu in a SHTF situation – I see that sort of thing as going without saying. My guess is this would also be true of the overwhelming majority of Jews of all political stripes.

      The only things i could call myself liberal on would be legalizing gay marriage(I don’t care what two consenting adults do in their own bedrooms) and legalizing cannabis(plants don’t kill people, aspiring rappers and athletes do) Interesting discussion.

      The funny thing is, none of these kinds of issues makes much of a difference to me one way or the other. I don’t care much about policies that don’t intersect with race-replacement, open borders, or ethnopatriotism. In a lot of ways I’m a social liberal, or libertarian at heart, though I do take a lot of conservative positions sometimes out of Devil’s Advocacy, that is to say, just to beat libtards down because I enjoy it.

      IMO “homosexual marriage” is an oxymoron; homosexuals have always had the same rights to marriage as anyone else. The homosexual lobby doesn’t want equal rights, or marriage; they want to take something that isn’t marriage and force society to call it marriage. They want to pervert marriage into something it isn’t to suit their wishes. If they want to live together and play house (and even get equivalent legal rights and responsibilities out of it), that’s their business, but they don’t get to call it marriage if I have anything to say about it, because it isn’t marriage.

      • David Ashton

        From the viewpoint of racial survival, the redefinition of matrimony to marginalize the protection of heterosexual partnership and responsible reproduction, and a mass-market in addictive brain poisons are both undesirable.

  • PesachPatriot

    Good points svigor….The bottom line is that jews and whites are the two smallest minorities on this planet…whites are about 9% of earth’s population and jews are about 2%(half white ashkenazi, half brownish sephardim, who are usually more conservative)….We have much more in common with each other than with the jihadis and bantus who think they will inherit the earth due to irresponsible, reckless breeding and non-stop violence.

    I don’t understand the obsession WN’s have with us….we have existed for 1000’s of years and yet from 1492 to about 1914 white people ruled as masters of the earth and most of us have no problem with that. Israel is probably the most pro-American country on the planet today….If you guys could put the DWL’s in their place you could probably have the immigration and bantu crime problems solved in a few months. I think a good first step would be the deportation of any bantu convicted of a capital crime(murder, rape, armed robbery or home invasion) back to Africa. This would save a lot of taxpayer money and also reduce their numbers pretty quickly…within a generation or two only the most docile, well behaved blacks would be left and their numbers would be fairly manageable. Many of the smarter jews i know disdain politics in general and stick to their faith, family and businesses…they generally think white non-jews should run america as they see fit, but would like them to continue to be a friend and ally to Israel.

    I would personally be fine with the US ending all financial and military aid to the MENA region…we were doing ok before america was even a country and could hold our own against the jihadi maniacs. US aid is a leash on Israel that uncle sam pulls every time arabs threaten to raise the price of oil. I often joke around that america could never have a jewish president because gas would be $125 a gallon.

    We will all be in the same trench against the jihadis and bantus one day soon. Another poster said that one has to go to Israel to understand the jews there….They are as different to american jews as a Vermont DWL is to a WN in Montana.

    • IstvanIN

      Explain the attitude of the Jewish controlled media and the Jewish politicians, (all rungs of the government are disproportionately Jewish), both of which are rabidly anti-white and anti-Christian and anti-America?

    • Svigor

      I don’t understand the obsession WN’s have with us

      It flows naturally from ethnocentrism, both our own and that of Jews; once a Euro ethnopatriot takes off the blinders and takes a cold look at reality, “anti-Semitism” becomes inevitable. To be fair, you guys are “obsessed” with Euros, too. The belief that every majority-European population owes Jews access to their living space and every aspect of their society seems more inherent to Jews than any actual tenet of Judaism.

      Look for the Kevin MacDonald piece on Ron Unz’s recent pamphlet about the illusion of American meritocracy that I posted below for more explanation of the “obsession.”

      Oh, one last point on “obsession”; tu quoque. You guys seem more obsessed with yourselves than we do, wouldn’t you agree? You’re so ethnocentric that you make a huge fight over the most obviously factual characterizations of Jewry. I’m as “obsessed” with Uncle Tom Whites as I am with the Jewish vanguard, but nobody ever disputes any of the negative aspersions I cast on White Leftists. (Btw, I mean “you” in the general sense here, not you personally)

  • Svigor

    Anyone who thinks America isn’t increasingly moving in the direction of Wiemar Germany might want to read this:

    Ron Unz on the illusory American meritocracy

  • PesachPatriot

    Svigor…I don’t think any euro nation owes us anything…living space or otherwise…i happened to have been born in america, to an american mother and israeli father(naturalized citizen now) I don’t know what the hell is wrong with my kinsman in the media and academia(looking at you tim wise, noel ignatiev and noam chomsky)….i certainly wasn’t brought up to hate or fear euro descended white americans…most jews today(american or israeli) don’t even bear ill will towards modern day germans(no 20 year old german kid has anything to do with the atrocities of 1933-1945)…Unlike arabs and bantus we do not stay angry over bad stuff that happened to us in the past…we file it under crap happens and move on.

    There is a definitely an anti-white sickness in the higher echelons of the jewish community in this country…I think organizations like the ADL and SPLC and AIPAC and even J Street do us a lot more harm than good. The persecution complex is definitely stupid in america( we have more chance of being struck by lightning than being subject to a pogrom) There isn’t much I can do to get the shylock destroyers at goldman sucks under control. Believe me svigor if I ran the world the scum at the FRB and on Wall Street and DC would be on the receiving end of some Old Testament justice. I also don’t feel oppressed by Christmas trees or Nativity displays and the jews who get upset and sue towns over them are grade a retards in my book(although its mostly atheist with jewish lawyers doing the suing now). Someone else mentioned that jewish leaders in america are pretty stupid…I couldn’t agree more…our leaders have been steering us into trouble since the bronze age. The smartest jews have always been the peasant ones who had to live and struggle in the real world, not the bankers, rabbis and professors who live in isolation from it.

    I remember learning in school that the basic foundations of western civilization are athens and jerusalem. As soon as you guys have America fixed I will pack my bags for Israel and wish you good luck with the white ethnostate. The problem you will have is that after a few generations the DWL’s will start agitating for more diversity and then you will be in pretty much the same situation as Sweden is now.

    • Svigor

      The smartest jews have always been the peasant ones who had to live and struggle in the real world, not the bankers, rabbis and professors who live in isolation from it.

      I don’t know about being the smartest, but I will say that little Jews like the ones you mention have been getting thrown to the wolves by the big Jews as long as there’s been anti-Semitism; it’s always the little Jews who pay the price for the big Jews – maybe you guys should throw them to the wolves, preemptively, for once. :)

      I remember learning in school that the basic foundations of western civilization are athens and jerusalem. As soon as you guys have America fixed I will pack my bags for Israel and wish you good luck with the white ethnostate. The problem you will have is that after a few generations the DWL’s will start agitating for more diversity and then you will be in pretty much the same situation as Sweden is now.

      Personally, I don’t really think in terms of turning America into an ethno-state. I think in terms of carving an ethno-state out of America. I think a lot of people are too quick to jump to conclusions about what that means, and similarly, a lot of people in our ranks are too quick to jump up on their soap boxes about what sort of self-determination should and shouldn’t be allowed. I think as seekers of self-determination, we should support others, even when their “self” is different from our own.

      I’m just fine with as many permutations of self-determination I can summon, e.g:

      A state composed of libtards. Have at it, guys.
      A Jewish ethno-state.
      A National Socialist “Aryan” ethno-state.
      A Christian Fundamentalist theocracy.
      A pan-European White Nationalist state.
      A Nordic racialist state.
      A Mediterranean racialist state.
      A pan-European White & Jewish state.
      A libertarian “state” (for the five minutes it would take to be overrun).
      Et cetera.

      I don’t rule out anything, I just don’t want anyone ruling out my preference.

      I’d also be fine with an actual strictly Constitutionalist, federalist United States that respected the rights of its constituent groups to self-determination and free association, if that was somehow magically possible.

      In any event, you sound like a Righteous Jew, and I’d have no problem sharing a foxhole with you if it came to that.

      The problem you will have is that after a few generations the DWL’s will start agitating for more diversity and then you will be in pretty much the same situation as Sweden is now.

      The more I think about this, the more I think that absolutism makes perfect sense; people as a mass are too stupid to have too much of a say over their own governance. Sad, but true. On the other hand, I think a strictly-constituted racialist republic might have the fortitude and resilience to survive a large measure of freedom for its inhabitants.

  • razorrare

    I consider you White…but do i consider you jewish? No i do not…nor does Benjamin Freedman & other “former” jews who came to know the truth & the biggest lie ever perpetrated upon the world…Ashkenazis are proto turk Khazars…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhFRGDyX48c

    • Svigor

      Once again, Koestler’s Khazars was a myth propagated for pro-Ashkenazi purposes.

      • razorrare

        I dissagree…you really need to “listen” to Benjamin Freedmans 1961 speech which was given long before Koestlers book on Khazars was written–As Freedman points out…not one ancestor of eastern european Ashkenazis(Khazars) ever set foot in the Holy Land…It is the zionist who have created the myth that Ashkenazi are jewish…it is they who have profitted the most by this deception…

        • Svigor

          True, Koestler did not invent the “Ashkenazis as Khazars” myth, but he did put it on the map with The 13th Tribe.

          I don’t think the “deception” is really germane at all, even if it were true. I do think slinging it around makes us look bad, though – yet another unnecessary conspiracy theory that is contradicted by the hard data.

          • razorrare

            I think the deception would certainly be germane to organized Christianity,especially those zionist Christians who are the sounding board for Israel…certainly germane for those who are willing to let their sons die in battle for the interest of the “fake ones.”…contradicted by what hard data??? Geneticist getting paid “forty pieces of silver” to carry on the Big Lie…The hebrews of old did not have White skin…blond hair…blue eyes…

          • Svigor

            You have a point, it would be of some theological interest, if it were true, or considered thus.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      I noticed a comment you wrote to me on the Menendez Intern Arrested thread was deleted.(??). What’s going on? Can you repost it??

      • razorrare

        I saw that too…i believe it may have been deleted because the comment i originally posted to you on this thread has magically reappeared…This disques change is not functioning properly…lots of bugs creating problems need to be fixed…they need to do away with the “oldest” “best” “newest” categories and the “Load more Comments” bar…i recently made another comment to a poster on another thread and it dosent appear to where it should be…its a colossal mess…perhaps the moderator can help explain it…til then i guess i’ll just grin and bear it…in order to find my original post to you concerning David Irving you can click on my non-avatar or go through the tenous aggravating process of “Load more Comments” in each category–“Best” “Newest” “Oldest”…and seeking my reply to you in this manner concerning Irving isnt worth the effort….hopefully someone at Amren is seeking to correct these problems….

        • http://www.amren.com/ Moderator

          Disqus recently brought some new downgrades online. You fix one bug and introduce five more. New version, don’t you know?

      • razorrare

        is this the Birdman you were referring too? Black Jake Bird,Tacoma Axe murderer of 1947…

        http://www.historylink.org/index.cfm?DisplayPage=output.cfm&file_id=7971
        guess Irving would say we need more “axe” control as well…

        • Bon, From the Land of Babble

          Great find!!

          No, I meant the late John “Birdman” Bryant:

          http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Index-NetLoss.html

          You might also want to read his exchanges with Tim Wise, whom he deemed the worst ***h**le ever:

          http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/NetLoss/NetLoss-ChiefShittingBullAwardsList.htm

          I think you’ll find what he writes about Irving to be verrryyy interesting.

          Bon

          • razorrare

            Yes,i read the other links you gave but havent yet read his exchanges with Tim Wise…been busy shoveling ice and snow all day… in regards to Irving i really havent read much up on him since Debbie Lipstadt(spelling error?)and other prominent jews in the publishing industry pretty much make his financial and future financial life not very promising…He was a very highly regarded Historian,perhaps the best,that is until he defended Zundel…since then he can get no major publisher to publish his books and at a point in time in 2002 0r 2003? lost his home…he was imprisoned for a time too in Austria i believe for about 6 months where initially he had received a 3 year sentence for being in the country…many other countries wont allow him in either…quite a great fall for someone who was on top of his profession as a well respected Historian…but thats what happens to people who dare deny the “holocaust.” He should have known how relentlessly his enemies would pursue him in destroying his financial well being as well as being recognized as the greatest historian in the world…
            Going to read his exchanges with Tim Wise now…thanks for the links…calling Tim Wise a ***h**le is too kind…

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            I well remember the “shower rangers” and was shocked and absolutely disgusted that anyone would consider this “humor” or “funny.” I remember especially what happened when the two young ladies returned to school — how they were ostracized, laughed at, mocked and humiliated (high school is tough, it’s a jungle).

            Ironically, I believe it was Gloria Allred who defended them to the media and in court. I’ve lost track of the story and don’t know how it ended.

            I’d never read the part about the Chinese baby-eating — wish Dr. Pierce HAD published the photos for all to see.

            As for Tim Wise — what I’d like to say about him would get me censored and probably banned from this site. Pierce is right: Those with murderous intentions and genocidal desires towards Whites should be hunted down. Can you imagine if we were to say the same thing about blacks, Jews, hispanics or Asians?? We woud be hunted down and targeted for complete destruction!! (as Traficant was, as Pat Buchanan was, etc.).

            Will read your link to Demjanjuk — God bless Traficant and Buchanan for standing up for him when NO ONE else in the government would (they KNEW what the consequences would be and Traficant paid with a prison term).

            Great links, thanks.

            Bon

  • Libearlsuck

    This is the same “tribe” that is forcing white nations to let in millions of nonwhites, who is encouraging (and soon, forcing) interbreeding between whites and nonwhites…oh, but they want their ‘homeland’ to be for them only, they won’t breed with members outside ‘their tribe’, they will use any means necessary to defend their ‘tribe’, etc. With that said, I DON’T stand with Israel. Let them fight their own wars with their own damn money and let their own ‘tribe’ members be willing to die or lose body parts or end up with PTSD instead of using Americans or any other white countries’ resources. Parasites. They are just as bad or worse as the “youths” that our taxes go to support for their irresponsible behavior.

    • Beloved Comrade

      Excellent points. It is our sons and daughters who are coming home in body bags, not theirs.

      • Svigor

        Jewish enrollment in the US military is an interesting topic. It peaked in WWII, remained high in Korea, then tanked by Vietnam. It is now statistically insignificant.

  • IstvanIN

    Considering that AMREN is a pro-Jewish, or at the least not an anti-Jewish site, shouldn’t the main point be that if a nation, or its people, have the will, illegal immigration can be stopped and even reversed? Israel has that will, both the government and the people. Look at Greece, the people have the will, the government does not and fights the people. Eventually, it seems, the people may overcome their treasonous government. If the government of Greece followed the people’s example Greece could get rid of most, if not all, of it’s non-Greek/non-European population. Getting rid of the third-world flotsam would go a long way towards helping the Greeks economically. We need to develop the same will.

    Perhaps we should follow the example of the Israeli Jews and not listen to the American Jews.

  • baltasar almudárriz

    Ironically – Euro-Kavkasians may end up having to adopt some of the very same strategies the Jews used to survive in exile- except for the intense endogamy. Let’s not re-invent the wheel.