Fathers Disappear from Households Across America

Washington Times, Luke Rosiak, Dec. 25, 2012

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In every state, the portion of families where children have two parents, rather than one, has dropped significantly over the past decade. Even as the country added 160,000 families with children, the number of two-parent households decreased by 1.2 million. Fifteen million U.S. children, or 1 in 3, live without a father, and nearly 5 million live without a mother. In 1960, just 11 percent of American children lived in homes without fathers.

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The spiral continues each year. Married couples with children have an average income of $80,000, compared with $24,000 for single mothers.

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The predilection among men to walk away from their babies is concentrated in the inner cities. In Baltimore, 38 percent of families have two parents, and in St. Louis the portion is 40 percent.

The near-total absence of male role models has ripped a hole the size of half the population in urban areas.

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Though income is the primary predictor, the lack of live-in fathers also is overwhelmingly a black problem, regardless of poverty status, census data show. Among blacks, nearly 5 million children, or 54 percent, live with only their mother. Twelve percent of black families below the poverty line have two parents present, compared with 41 percent of impoverished Hispanic families and 32 percent of poor white families.

Fatherlessness Table

The schism is most apparent in the District, which has a higher portion of two-parent families among whites, at 85 percent, and a lower share among blacks, at 25 percent, than any state.

In all but 11 states, most black children do not live with both parents. In every state, 7 in 10 white children do. In all states but Rhode Island and Massachusetts, most Hispanic children do. In Wisconsin, 77 percent of white children and 61 percent of Hispanics live with both parents, compared with more than 25 percent of black children.

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But the move toward single-parent homes has included every race, and from Curtis Bay in Baltimore to Millcreek outside Salt Lake City to Vancouver, Wash., just north of Portland, there are 1,500 neighborhoods with substantial white populations where most white households lack fathers. Maine, Vermont and West Virginia have the lowest dual-parenthood rates for whites. 

The decline has hit disproportionately in the South, which considers itself a bastion of traditional family values.

Even in places where the percentage of the black population declined, single parenthood increased over the past decade, The Washington Times’ analysis of census data shows. In South Carolina, where the black share of the population fell by 2 percent, single parenthood rose by 5 percent. In Kentucky and Louisiana, where the black population was constant, single parenthood increased 6 percentage points.

The largest geographic area of sustained fatherlessness contains the rural, largely black poor across Arkansas, Mississippi and Louisiana, tributaries of broken homes running 400 miles along the Mississippi River from Memphis, Tenn., where in some neighborhoods 82 percent of children live with their mothers alone, to Baton Rouge, La., in parts of which less than one-fifth of children have both parents at home.

Black families differ from other racial groups in that the average black single mother has more children, not fewer, than her counterpart with a father present. Hispanic single mothers were most often dealing with the most mouths to feed but still had fewer children than their married counterparts. 

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Fathers Map

Click on the image and scroll down for fatherlessness figures by race for each census tract.

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  • MekongDelta69

    Though income is the primary predictor, the lack of live-in fathers also is overwhelmingly a black problem

    *facepalm* No – Reeeeeeeally?! Wow – who knew?!

    The Government Is Your Father Luke

    • GM (Australia)

      Not only that but the white married male taxpayer is your mum’s and everyone else’s sugar-daddy. Then, they will continue to complain that the kids with a mum and dad (and presumably a home and income) are the privileged ones and that’s why they get good marks at school and are less likely to be in trouble with the law and so on.

    • Rasmus

      I had thought a black family with the child’s natural father present was now the exception and not the rule.

      • Johnny Clay

        Sadly, that’s the way it seems. I tend to do a double-take when I see an intact black family.

        • newscomments70

          I do a double take when I see a black male with a black woman. Usually they are with white women/girls.

          • John

            Statistics show that there are far more White male/Asian female couples than Black male/White female pairings.

          • newscomments70

            Thank God.

          • Michael_C_Scott

            I wanted to marry my high school girlfriend. Shrug.

          • newscomments70

            I know how you feel. I lost many potential mates to partying. My cousin just lost his stripper whore wife. They had three children together, but she left him to go back to being a drugged-out, stripper whore…an old, used-up one at that. She chose that over being a beautiful mother and wife.

          • Michael_C_Scott

            My HS girlfriend broke up with me because while I was nice to her, I was cruel to other people. My ex-father was the meanest man in the world, and I learned it from him. I’m married to someone else, but I sure do miss Diane.

        • white man’s burden

          so when i see a White family intact should i see a trailer trash,paedo ,masquerading as the american Dream ,Great White Hope father

          • RIF

            Mind trying that again in English, oh obvious person of minority genetics.

    • John

      There is an old saying: “He who lies down with dogs begins to smell like dogs.”
      White society and western civilization are breaking down because the mass media constantly vilifies conventional families comprised of a stable father and mother. They are relentlessly portrayed as throwbacks to a darker time. The Ward and June Cleavers of the world are ridiculed, scorned, and laughed at as something from a fictional world to be joked about.
      Instead, Black and Brown misbehaviors are glorified. It’s considered “cool” in the mass media for a Black thug to impregnate multiple women, through force or consent, before completing his rite of passage in prison for multiple violent felonies. It’s also considered “cool” for Mestizos to break into the United States and give birth.
      Meanwhile, heterosexual White male actors ponder the consequences of denying gay rumors; consequences that could hurt their gay peers. it’s become decidely “uncool” to be straight.
      This is the sad and disturbing world we suddenly live in. I say “suddenly”, but in actuality, the events of today have sprouted from the seeds President Lincoln planted when he and the Congress that served under him failed to completed The Liberia Project, which they started, and when Operation Wetback was not completed by Eisenhower.

      • Michael_C_Scott

        “He who lays down with dogs gets up with fleas”.

        There is also “When one crawls with slugs, one gets slimed by them.”

      • The Verdict of History

        BEHOLD!

        The Cultural Marxist anti-white strategy to pathologize traditional white cultural values is decidedly cunning and will only intensify.

        The objective is to utterly destroy white identity.

      • newscomments70

        I always liked “Leave it to Beaver”. Strangley, I even know some blacks who like the show. The show was well-written and has an interesting history and background. I read about it in wikipedia, recently. Their liberal screed had someone interesting, neutral facts, but the show was basically lambasted for being so “white”, as if being white is something dirty and evil. The liberal media really is our true enemy. I believe they hate whites more than blacks do.

        • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

          I like it so much that I made it part of my Disqus avatar.

          Did you know? There was only once where a black had a speaking part in LITB. It’s the episode in the very last season where Wally and Eddie are parking cars for a society wedding, (Eddie screws things up as usual), and the black kitchen help had a few short lines.

          However, what bothers me now about shows like LITB is that they too sanitized the way things really were, compared to today’s shows which do just the opposite. For instance, there were never any LITB episodes in October 1962 which showed Ward, Wally and the Beaver building a home made nuclear bomb shelter; real people of the time were doing just that. Cuban Missile Crisis. Life Magazine even had instructions.

          • newscomments70

            I heard them mention Cuba and some other real issues, but only very briefly. I also remember when Wally grew a mustache and was ridiculed at school. He hurried home to shave it off because he was worried that people might attack him, thinking he was Hitler. I had to laugh at that. I think people used sanitized shows like that as escapism. The producers did not want to ruin the 30 minute sanctuary from reality.

            ” There was only once where a black had a speaking part in LITB. It’s the episode in the very last season where Wally and Eddie are parking cars for a society wedding, (Eddie screws things up as usual), and the black kitchen help had a few short lines.”

            I remember that episode. It’s ironic, “Eddie” began his career with an attractive, well-mannered black woman, shooting lines at him. After becoming a police officer in Los Angeles, this developed into criminal blacks shooting bullets at him.

        • Tucker

          Correction. It is the group who are the avowed and boastful owners of the mainstream media who are consumed with raw, vitriolic hatred and a malicious lust to do everything possible to engineer the genocide of White European people. There is no depth to which these evil, hate consumed genocide criminals will not stoop to advance their agenda to exterminate the last White man, woman, or child from the face of the Earth.

          Notice how, in TV commercials which are advertising products that are aimed at children, or which are using small groups of children to help them sell some general product – cute little white girls are always placed into situations where they’ll be sitting or standing next to little black boys? I saw an example of this just yesterday, and one of the biggest and most well known telecom companies were pushing this not-so-subtle racially destructive agenda. Also, the next time you are in a certain well known department store – stroll through the children’s toy section, scrutinize the pictures that are on the outside of the boxes of many of the children’s products. You will see a pattern of advertising that places cute little white girls in scenes alongside little black boys, as a means of planting the notions into the impressionable heads of our little white daughters who might see those items in the stores that little white girls and little black boys are supposed to be matched together. You will also occasionally see little white boys paired alongside little Asian girls – which promotes a similar notion and a similarly racially destructive agenda.

          There is a company that manufactures these above-ground, backyard swimming pools – and for the last half dozen years, they’ve been featuring pictures on the outside of the boxes which show a pool filled with water and there will be a pretty white female in the pool and several little kids, one of whom will be black, and there will sometimes be an adult black male in the pool alongside the white female and the white and black kids. Suggesting, of course, that white females who pair up with black males can produce kids who are either completely white or completely black.

          Couple these efforts to promote miscegenation between whites and non-whites with the endless negative and clearly demeaning TV and movie depictions of ‘White males’ as nerds, losers, hapless incompetents who are always being lectured or shown up by the stalwart, all-wise, all-knowing, cool & hip black male who has to constantly come to the rescue of these ‘stupid and helpless white male losers’ – and I think it is pretty clear what the agenda is, right?

          White Genocide, folks. The Cultural Marxist enemy is targeting our impressionable and naive children with their white genocide propaganda and brainwashing. They are targeting the white females of our race with their anti-white, race destroying poison. They are brainwashing the females of our race to despise and shun the men of their race, and that means the elimination of white babies being born.

          And, according to the monkey-see, monkey-do principle – these relentless efforts to emasculate and feminize White men are also bearing fruit. Observe the number of white males you will see in public, covered with grotesque tattoos, lips, ears, noses, eyebrow piercings, with their hair in corn rows or dred-locks, wearing their pants hanging off their butts and their underwear showing, aping the inner city black ‘dress code’. Observe how overweight and out of shape most of these young white males are, and take note of the way they project not an air of self-confidence and masculinity, but one which suggests that they are attempting to mimic the image of the ‘white male’ that they’ve been shown on their TV or in Hollywood movies.

          • newscomments70

            ” cute little white girls are always placed into situations where they’ll be sitting or standing next to little black boys? ” That is pretty much in every ad, these days. What is even more disgusting is how they place them sometimes…the boy will be standing behind the girl, or they will be laying on the floor, etc. The disgusting liberal media is forcing interracial sex on children. I’m sure these little girls, who are models, have no idea what is going on. The media tries so hard to be coy about this agenda, as if they think we won’t notice. We do notice, and I complain officially, every chance I get. I have seen so many corporations promote child miscegenation. It is always a black boy and a blond white girl, ALWAYS. If we become upset, we are singled out as lunatic racists. Occasionally, I mention that black girls and women are being ingored. That is racist against black females. The disgusting liberal media conveniently forgets about black females in these instances. At this time, it is ok to throw black females under a bus. They can be sacrificed so that black men can fornicate with blond women (or little girls!!). I really hope I live to see the day when these liberal media elites get what they deserve. In the meantime, keep contacting them, boycott them, and encourage others to do so. Make their lives as miserable as possible. It helps. Recently, a Sears miscegenation was pulled because of public outrage. Keep fighting them. Keep bothering them.

            I’ve noticed many major companies that promote anti-white racism: Marriott, Nordstroms, T-Mobile, and many more. One would think that a company from Germany, such as T-Mobile, would have some racial pride. That is an outdated sentiment. Modern Germans HATE themselves and other whites. They have completely submitted to American black ghetto culture…that is why we must fight twice as hard. Together, let’s bankrupt the liberal media.

  • pcmustgo

    And the Black and Latino mothers have MORE CHILDREN when they’re unmarried than their married counterparts….!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • OlderWoman

      Loose women. No self-respect. Sex has no spiritual meaning anymore. Women look for one-night stands. No commitment.

      • pcmustgo

        I beg to differ… I think most women, of all races, delude themselves into thinking they can parlay sex and one night stands into relationships. I think many women have no clue as to how to proceed with dating and relationships. We’ve lost that – you know, The Rules, since the 60′s. Women don’t look for one-night stands. Men do. Women almost always think sex means committment when it doesn’t.

        • Peter

          I agree. Women of all races are largely goldiggers.

        • Edward

          Most guys just want to get laid. Period. Nothing more, nothing less.

          • IstvanIN

            Hmmm, not true, at least as I can see from my family and high school friends. Most of us wanted a wife and kids and a stable, middle-class life. Not everyone, but the majority.

          • robinbishop34

            The biological urges that make sex so physically enjoyable are part and parcel of the biological urges to find a wife and have a family.

          • jay11

            Now we have Sandra Fluks who want the gov’t to support their loose sexual adventurism!

          • mendells-selection

            she was just a fluke

          • mendells-selection

            When a person reaches emotional maturity, yes, that is correct. The black race seems to never reach emotional maturity. Read an article titled “Morality and Abstract Thinking – How Africans may differ from Westerners “. The popular culture and public education seem to be aimed at preventing white people from maturing emotionally, some white men, mostly those in Hollywood, never reach it, other reach it about ten years later than a few generations ago.

          • NM156

            …and until the woman who provides the family comes along, you’ll take the sex. xD The wait for a young guy to find the right woman can be LONG.

          • mendells-selection

            Yes, if you GIVE the sex, they will take the sex. Keep the legs crossed and you wont be so bitter and you will meet the right kind of men.

          • Michael_C_Scott

            I didn’t get married until I was a 40 year-old federal ex-con. Relationships were always a disaster for me when I was in late college and early in my old career. The pain wasn’t worth the effort. The way I used to explain why I quit dating at about age 25 was the old Marx Brothers skit, where one of them says,

            “Doctor, doctor; it hurts when I do this.”

            “Then don’t do that,” says the doctor.

            I’d probably still be single today and still not dating if one of my friends hadn’t looked me up.

          • edwina

            what a guy!

          • Edward

            I stand by my statement.

          • mendells-selection

            untill they grow up, I guess that hasn’t happened for you yet.

        • Ron Cheaters

          Most women I see today view sexuality as an ego-trip and nothing more. Sadly, I’m still waiting to find that something more

          • mendells-selection

            Women have always been aware of their power over men. Men used to be aware of this but during the twentieth century western men became oblivious to it. Sayings such as “cherche la femme” were a reflection of this awareness. IT means “look for the woman” and it voiced the idea that women could be found as the root cause of almost any problem. Islamic society still has an awareness of the trouble that is woman and they have a saying in Turkey “Shaytahn Kahdihn” which mean “evil woman”. It is voiced in regards to women who flaunt their attractiveness, wear makeup and scanty clothes. To them, if a woman is not modest in the Islamic fashion she is the same as a pole dancer.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            I am still young, barely out of my twenties, and I have managed to avoid sex until marriage, even though I have been with white men who wanted sex. From my perspective, I don’t see how any woman can enjoy sex unless two things are in place first : 1) emotional security and commitment from the man involved and 2) physical security, meaning, if the woman gets pregnant, she is in a secure marriage. The thought of having sex without those two things in place, to me, is terrifying.

          • Sherman_McCoy

            God bless you, Courtney. I wish you success in finding that special guy, who has also saved himself . . . for you!

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            Thanks! I am pretty much on that path right now. There is someone, actually. Thanks for being a gentleman unlike other posters on here who find constant bones to pick with white women.

          • Michael_C_Scott

            Love was usually a disaster for me, until Miss Nakano looked me up. It’s nice if young people can sometimes make things work. We don’t bash white women; my mother is a 70 year-old white woman, and I am the only one who can make her laugh.

          • Ron Cheaters

            Hi Courtney.. I’ m in Canada.. nice fo hear from a like-minded girl!

        • mendells-selection

          When virginity was important, women did not behave this way. Now they are aware they have power over men and let it go to their head. They find out that once the novelty wears off their power fades. Men are not as easily trapped. When virginity was important then a man had much more pressure to marry a woman if he copulated with her. It made the act very significant because he was taking something from her, her virginity, and changing her status forever. To leave her afterward was seen as abandoning her after he put her in an “unsellable” condition. That is why men who did this were not respected, they were called “Cads”. Today? Today virginity is not cherished, it is seen as a defect, the act is seen as no more significant than brushing one’s teeth. The result is that human beings are created and they are left with no social support other than a “working mother” who dumps the kid in daycare and often has a string of men who often emotionally and physically abuse the children.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bardon-Kaldian/100003542251801 Bardon Kaldian

          Uh…that’s naive. Just o to Craigslist, any major US city, casual relationships, w4m. Sodom & Gomorrah …

          • pcmustgo

            I’m well aware of craigslist w4m, and at least the women seeking men (normal) section is full of plenty of women actually seeking love and relationships (although I’ve heard there’s a few prostitutes tucked in here and there). Now “misc romance” and “casual encounters” are another story

        • Tucker

          “I think many women have no clue as to how to proceed with dating and relationships.”

          I’ve noticed this, as well. When I was dating, after I reached a certain age – and the women I would date would usually be divorcees, or women in their 30s or early 40s who due to their youthful flirtations with ball busting feminism had managed to drive most sane men away from them – I almost immediately sensed how awkward and uncomfortable most of these women seemed to be with the dating and courtship ritual. At first, I figured it was just a matter of them being a little rusty, having been married and out of the dating loop for so long – but, the longer I thought about it the more I began to realize that the vast majority of these women really did not seem to have a clue as to how to be feminine and alluring. As for the seduction thing – that was pretty much non-existent. In far too many cases, I found that these women were way too aggressive and they’d wind up ruining the courtship ritual by pressuring a guy to get frisky before he had even begun to develop any natural, spontaneous cravings along those lines.

          In the old days, women knew the art of teasing and flirting with a guy, to seduce him slowly and to instill within him a desire and hunger to possess her.

          This wham-bam, thank you ma’am stuff really is not a positive or healthy change in the White dating world. It’s better suited for the ghetto or barrio, I suspect.

          • pcmustgo

            Yes, it’s true Asian and Latino women know how to be more flirty with the eyes and expressions and all. On the other hand, do you realize how fake and phoney the whole uber-feminine thing is? We want to be feminine but we want to be real too. We want to be alluring and seductive but we don’t want to play games forever.

            And our mothers never taught us how to do any of this.

    • Rasmus

      And yet we’re told how much we need these dull-witted, unambitious people in our country. If we don’t now have the money to take care of America’s citizens, we damn well can’t afford to have millions of amnestied cholos putting a drain on public expenditures. I’ll believe America’s leaders care about this country and its people as soon as they demand armed troops on our southern border with orders to apprehend all invaders with military force if needs be.

  • pcmustgo

    Some of the other stats here by stat, by red dot, are located on Native American reservations- they have even higher out of wedlock rates than blacks.

    • The__Bobster

      And that’s not easy to do. The Bantu rate exceeds 80% in the ghetto.

  • http://twitter.com/LavMenace Crystal Lee Evans

    I do not think that income is the primary factor for the lack of fathers. But it is a generational pattern in some families for the father to leave the family and the mother is left to raise the kids. There is usually no positive male role model for the young boys in the inner city and they see the criminals with nice cars, nice clothes and cash. So they end up following their footsteps and end up in prison.

    • Boereseun

      Marriage is oppression. New Age men don’t want to oppress women any longer.

      • mendells-selection

        Did marriage leave some lasting “impressions” on you?

        • Easy Rider

          Actually, marriage is an outdated institution.

          • David Ashton

            Like responsible parenthood?

    • Joseph

      Irresponsible and risk-taking men make both bad fathers and bad employees (or non-employees) thus poverty is associated with, but not causative of abandonment.

  • Roddion Raskolnikov

    How wonderful. :-)
    Female headed households is the new American ideal. This is progress! Fathers just get in the way.

    • Boereseun

      Ja, didn’t you know? Marriage and having the man be a leader in the house is oppressive. This is progress, forward…. down with the Patriarchy!

    • http://twitter.com/LavMenace Crystal Lee Evans

      There is no way that a woman can teach a boy to be a man.

  • Jaego

    It’s time to get real: these young women get pregnant on purpose instead of getting a job. Also it’s just part of being a women in their culture. It’s what women do.

    • Triarius

      Speaking as a professional in his 20s and only about white people I give you your answer as to why men aren’t getting married and sticking around:

      http://dontmarry.wordpress.com/

      There is no incentive for men to get married, the feminists killed it.

      • mendells-selection

        Yes, feminism is death for a society.

      • newscomments70

        Getting married, these days, is similar to being an employer. You wouldn’t want to get married for the same reason you wouldn’t want to hire someone. A married man and an employer are basically providers. The liberal beaurocracy makes life absolutely miserable for providers. The rules, costs, fees, and liabilities increase every year. Why in God’s name would you want to get married? Similarly, why would any company in their right mind want to hire more losers? For any company to expand, it’s all about outsourcing abroad and downsizing the US office. For the few men who wish to marry, they have their own version of outsourcing: third world brides.

        • CourtneyfromAlabama

          I am confused by this analogy. Companies outsource not because Third World workers are better but because they are cheaper. Who are you refering to as “losers”? American workers? And since you used that as an analogy, are white women losers to you, while Third World women are prizes?

          • mendells-selection

            maybe his wife is cheaper

          • newscomments70

            I’m sorry, I should not have ranted like that. My comments were not fair. We have had some bad luck these days with marriages in my family. I also wrote that comment immediatly after reading the link. I speak out of frustration and forget that there are good marriages out there. Also, women get screwed over as well. i don’t think that white women are losers, quite the opposite. They are too liberal and naive, on average, though.

            I don’t know too many white men that married Asian women, but I hear that is very common in Australia. It is often middle-aged men who want to marry a 20 year old. That is improbable at home and resort to seeking “love” in third world. That really isn’t marriage though and it rarely works out.

            I am a business owner, and it is difficult to find people to work for us who are not losers. I can understand the temptation for downsizing or outsourcing. I don’t outsource, but we are downsizing. When you hire employees the legal way, it’s like the owner works for the employees. If you fire them for being incompetent and lazy, which is often, you have to pay several thousand dollars for their unemployment benifits…which they milk. You can also be sued. Affirmative action enforcement is also ridicilous, as you can imagine. Government bullies force you to hire blacks and now they force you to buy from black owned suppliers. If you want the best contracts with the government, you have to have 50% black ownership…THEY HAVE THE SAME LAW IN ZIMBABWE. THE US ACTUALLY HAD IT FIRST. The nightmare increases every year.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            Okay, thanks for clarifying. That makes sense. I kind of went on a rant also. It just seems that far too often when these topics come up on here, the comments section is full of negative comments about white women and it does us no good. These commenters should be directing their anger at liberals and feminists instead of their own women. That was why I reacted to your comment the way I did, and I probably should have just politely asked what you meant.

          • newscomments70

            You’re right though, we should concentrate on our solidarity against liberalism and treason. We should not go off on tangents, criticising the opposite gender, etc. Please convnice ALL of my female cousins (all white), to stop voting for Obama. I will give you their numbers! My sister-in-law is fine; she is actually a new supporter Amren.

          • Svigor

            Generally speaking, women seem incapable of being reasonable. E.g., demanding distinctions between “our women” and women in general, which should go without saying but doesn’t, because women find it almost impossible to be reasonable. Men aren’t all that reasonable, either, but women just take the cake.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            I am confused. Above you were saying I was ignoring the truth by pointing out that most white women aren’t feminists. Here you are calling me unreasonable for not recognizing that most men on here already acknowledge that. Which is it?

          • Sean

            The current feminism is undeniably terrible. That was not always the case, the original feminists were merely women that expected equal treatment under the law and voting rights. First wave feminism was a good thing, it meant excesses of our gender could be curbed and allow for a more tranquil domestic unit. Then communists corrupted it.

            Ignoring or demonizing women is foolish, by not letting 50% of our race contribute to a discussion that affects 100% of it we are taking away 50% of our shared think tank and that can be very dangerous.

            That said if by some strange series of coincidences violence were to break out then leave it to the men to do the heavy lifting. That is the only time that men should take priority in this struggle.

          • Sean

            Oh, come on. Courtney is trying to do what a lot of you have refused to do, reunify white men and women. Remember, with black, brown, and gay studies came women’s studies as an attempt to separate us, (thanks critical theory).

            This isn’t a boy’s club, this is about saving our people, a people that have treated our women quite a bit better than the rest of the world. So let’s have a go at it with all our opinions being heard .

        • Svigor

          Hey, not bad.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            Down here in the South hardly any women voted for Obama. Women tend to follow what their men do. Funny, I never realized that all those voters in blue states were exclusively female (sarcasm). I understand that women vote emotionally and maybe shouldn’t be voting, but if you look at the last election, a very large minority of white men voted for him also. Our race as a whole is in trouble. Constantly finger pointing at one gender gets us nowhere.

          • Gene

            They sure did vote for him up here in the northeast. In fact, many White women were openly hostile toward Mitt Romney and the GOP. They would boo and yell at Romney campaign staffers.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            You must have selectively read my last post. I covered all that. What are the men in the Northeast like? Did they all vote for Romney?

          • newscomments70

            I believe about 57% of white males voted for Romney in the Northeast. The rest were welfare trash, or weak, limp-wristed liberals. Women up there….they pretty much do what Oprah tells them to do. “Romney doesn’t care about women. Romney wants to illegalize abortion. I don’t trust Romney. Obama is good for the country (while ignoring basic, horrifying facts)”. Talking reasonably to such people, men or women, is like talking to a waste basket. They will basically shout you down as a racist, but not provide any facts for their statements. You know the routine.

          • Gene

            No. The men in the northeast are a mixture of libs and conservatives. They are much harder to categorize.

      • CourtneyfromAlabama

        Comments like this bother me for a number of reasons. The article said that most white children have both parents present so what is with this talk about white men not wanting to stick around? Second of all, most white women aren’t feminists. Tired of hearing that used as an excuse on these websites. Both genders in our race have a lot of shaping up to do. Third, we don’t need this type of division in this movement. I am so tired of white men in this movement directing their anger at white women. Direct your anger at our leaders, liberal and neo-con alike. That would be far more constructive.

        • Svigor

          I’m not interested in appreciating (i.e., praising) or admiring white women. I do hope you appreciate and admire honesty.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            Do you appreciate honesty or would you rather stay bitter and angry towards white women like a lot of men in this movement do? Tell me what it was I said above that isn’t true. I am barely out of my twenties and have been involved in this movement for several years and have attended a lot of conferences. I have met Jared Taylor and James Edwards in person. I attended a conference recently during which it was brought up that the comment sections on these websites are full of negative rants against white women and most of them are baseless. I have noticed this myself. It should be obvious to everyone on here why this is unhealthy. Men like you would rather drive decent women like me away from the movement instead of listening to my concerns. Most white men I have been with, including the one I am settling down with, are clueless on the race issue. Most white people are. But I would never come on here and rant about how most white men are terrible marriage partners. The two genders in this race need to be coming together. I am doing my part. What are you doing?

          • Tucker

            I want to praise Courtney for her willingness to embrace a healthy sense of White racial consciousness, and I will concede that there is a considerable amount of criticism of White females on many of the pro-white websites.

            As for my personal view, I am an equal-opportunity critic and I believe that there is plenty of criticism of White men that deserves to be aired, whenever they succumb to ‘yellow fever’ or when they betray their own race by helping to reelect an illegal communist, anti-white alien from Kenya or when they engage in a whole variety of other activities which harm their own people.

            However, while I do not approve of any form of race treason – by men or by women – I must remind Courtney that females are the gender upon whom Mother Nature has bestowed the ability to carry on our species. White men who are racially healthy, and who find it almost impossible to find a white female who will date or marry them – because they have been brainwashed by the anti-white media to think white racial pride is somehow ‘evil’ – have every legitimate right to be hurt and resentful when they are confronted with never ending doses of rejection and ridicule, as well as having to suffer the agony of loneliness and have feelings of having been outcast, as if their perfectly healthy views on race were equivalent to having leprosy.

            Has Courtney ever sat down with a racially healthy White man who has endured this sort of rejection and had a heart-to-heart, open and honest conversation? Can Courtney, or any White female in the AmRen community, understand the depth of pain, anguish, and psychologically debilitating torment that a White man feels who desperately wants to be a father and to have children who will carry on his genes – but, he gets shot down over and over and over by every White female he meets and it is due to his perfectly healthy views on racial issues? And, then when he ventures out into public – or when he stupidly turns on his TV, or when he sits down to watch a movie – he has his face rubbed in non-stop images of White females paired up with black males and deep inside himself, he interprets that as the most humiliating and emasculating insult to him as a White man? He sees those unnatural pairings through the eyes of a man who understands that he is seeing the genocide of his race occurring right before his eyes, and he feels powerless to stop this evil agenda that his mortal enemies are promoting in order to destroy his race. He also cannot understand how White females cannot seem to grasp the enemy’s genocide agenda.

            So, Courtney – I admire you tremendously for your courage and loyalty towards our race, but the gift of life has always been the contribution that can only be made by females. I believe that it is for this reason that we all see such a disproportionate amount of criticism on pro-white websites which is directed at white women. Women are special, far more special than are men – and it is because of their ability to have babies that they are so vital to the survival of White European people.

            That is also why our mortal enemies who own and control the media have focused so much of their anti-white attention and their agenda on White females; they understood that females are more easily brainwashed and manipulated than are White men. Brainwash white females to think careers are more important than motherhood, and that aborting any fetuses which are inconvenient to their careers or party girl lifestyle is no bigger of a deal than getting the oil changed on your car, and then start promoting black males-white female pairings on TV and in the movies, while relentlessly demonizing and depicting white males in a negative light, and bingo – White males are removed from the reproductive pool and cannot produce any White babies.

            Game over. Enemy wins.

          • joesolargenius

            I agree with you 100%

          • Pearl

            While I believe what you say has validity, I don’t feel that constantly trashing and demoralizing women and behaving like a jerk is constructive to either this movement, or your love life.

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

          This reads almost exactly as your comments from almost a year ago when the subject came up and similar comments were made. Sorry, Courtney, but I think you are perhaps an exception, but the history of feminism in breaking up families and vilifying the male, especially the white male is well known. I certainly remember clearly in the early and mid 80s when feminists were publicly declaring a war on the white male, telling young women to not marry or bear a white man’s child. Talk about hate! Tammy Bruce wrote a book,the first of a series on the subject of the corruption at the National Organization for Women in her book, The New Thought Police. She was president of the L.A. Chapter of NOW. Perhaps you ought to catch up on the issues.

      • Svigor

        I agree, marriage is a sucker’s bet for most men. Sure, there are women out there worth marrying, but the vast majority of men can’t tell the difference.

        If you’re wealthy you can set up financial instruments to protect your wealth, in which case marriage can make a lot more sense.

        But it’s best to do without marriage, and live in a state without common law marriage.

  • falsedawn

    To be a father, you have to have a job and take home a paycheck and be a part of the process of raising the children. If you don’t, you can’t be a father. The idea of just impregnating a female is not fatherhood. Many/most males of the animal kingdom do just that, impregnate and walk away without any further thought on the matter. The female raises the young.

    • Joseph

      Often in the animal world, the female chases away the male because he kills the offspring.

      Does this seem familiar?

      • Rasmus

        In Baltimore, Detroit, Atlanta and Gary.

        • Howard W. Campbell

          Let’s not forget KC, Newark, East St. Louis, Compton, & the Southside of Chicago.

          • frozenpie77

            Oh, and my native Birmingham. Or my neighborhood in Birmingham, for that matter…

          • NM156

            …and the West Side of Chicago and over the Chicago border in Gary, IN.

          • mendells-selection

            and KFC and MacDonalds and Chuckecheeses and Ihop and…….

      • mendells-selection

        pavement apes

      • mendells-selection

        If only

    • http://twitter.com/LavMenace Crystal Lee Evans

      You are simply a sperm donor,not a father.

      • mendells-selection

        why donate? make them payyyyyyy

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002454802929 John Smith

    Maybe I’m missing something, but the percentages don’t seem to add up on the graph. 2 Parent White families add up to 110%?

    • mendells-selection

      Maybe they wanted to make whites look worse than they are.

  • StillModerated

    OK, quiz time. Who will be the first politician to win an election promising to end all “gibsmedats?”

    • Joseph

      Ron Paul won his congressional seat repeatedly by promising to try.

      • mendells-selection

        Too short and kooky

  • Anon

    There is something you all should be aware of. What’s going on with blacks is not accidental. It is a specific technique used as part of their enslavement. Not by whites but by whom is an important question for all whites to attempt to answer. It’s important because such techniques are being used on us, by the same people. Luckily, we are extremely resistant and prone to backlash.

    http://dont-read.blogspot.com/2007/03/special-post-slave-owners-manual.html

    By her being left alone unrpotected, with the male image destroyed, the
    ordeal caused her to move from her psychological dependency state to a
    frozen independent state. In this frozenpsychological state of
    independence, she will raise her male and female offspring in reversed
    roles. For fear of the young male’s life, she will psychologically train
    him to be mentally weak and dependent but physically strong.

    Does this not describe exactly what is going on with blacks? Notice how, to a limited extent, it has been used on whites….white men are hardly mentally weak, but many (too many) are submissive and filled with anxiety and phobias. That isn’t accidental. It’s the result of specific techniques designed to control slaves. Those techniques haven’t changed much although I could add that simulated violence, repeated, can be just as effective as real violence. Does that not describe most movies these days?

    Are you white and don’t want to be a slave? One of the first things we need to do is notice what is being done to us. Then we need to understand why. Most importantly, we need to identify who…..and who is a short list of between a hundred and a thousand names on it, of varying levels of power and importance.

    Before you “blame” our women, or our men for our supposed deficiencies and lack of morals, take a good read of that manual for training slaves. Notice how what it describes is being done today. Things are the way they are because we have been victimized not because of poor choices. Brainwashing is the very opposite of choice.

    Instead of falling for this scam and turning one against each other……resist.

    • mendells-selection

      Give it a rest pal

    • mendells-selection

      From WIKI—The text contains numerous anachronisms, including words and phrases such as “refueling” and “fool proof” which were not in use until the early 20th century.[3] Additionally, historian Roy Rosenzweig notes that the divisions emphasized in the text – skin color, age, and gender – are distinctly 20th-century in nature, and make little sense in an 18th-century context.[2] As such, historians such as Rosenzweig and William Jelani Cobb of Spelman College regard the William Lynch speech as a hoax.[2][3]
      I know you believe this and are all excited about it and it is your personal bogeyman, but you have nothing here. It is not genuine.

  • Toad

    Hello,

    There is something you are overlooking.

    A single mother with a child is eligible for all tuition and costs for her to attend college, and about a dozen other benefits. If she holds a part-time minimum wage job, and collects the benefits, she can attend college full-time, and have an income large enough to buy a house, a car, and live as though she is earning about $75,000 per year.

    The young people are learning this, and even though the young couple are living together and raising their children in a normal family arrangement, the father just lists his address somewhere else.

    If an inspector comes around and sees the father, the father pulls out a gun and becomes belligerent and tells the inspector that he is just the gardener. The inspector (wisely) leaves the premises and files his report stating that there is nothing wrong.

    I know this to be true.

    The Toad

    • Nathanwartooth

      The ratio of female to male students is about 40% male 60% female.

      My theory back in college why I was seeing so many females in college, especially with children is because if you are young and have a kid the female can go to college, get free daycare and get money from the male. While the male is forced to work full time to pay child support so it is so much harder to attend college.

      • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

        Another theory to explain the widening college student gender gap is that the college environment is hostile for straight white men. By design, IMHO.

        • Svigor

          And the educational system long ago began to favor conformism and groupthink, two female fortes.

  • ATBTOL

    I think this is more about economics than many conservatives want to think. The decline of the middle class, lower wages, fewer benefits, less job security, higher unemployment and underemployment as well as women entering the workforce and the feminization of the workplace and schools are playing a large role. Mainstream conservatives are heavily invested in the idea that the globalist and neo-liberal economic policies favoring wealthy interests that have been enacted over the last thirty years have been beneficial to the country, so they look to other explanations rather than reexamine their beliefs.

    Charles Murray’s recent book absurdly dismissed economic issues as a major cause of family instability. He’s a very old man who is very out of touch with reality. It’s clear that he, like most older people, does not really understand that actual changes in social/sexual dynamics that have happen since the 80′s. He places all the blame on men and praises single mothers. He has no concept of female hypergamous mating strategies or even basic female psychology. His whole treatment of the matter is dated and unsophisticated, relying on reams of statics and a 60′s era intellectual framework, but not looking at human behavior from a biological and evolutionary perspective. The Bell Curve and his other writings have the same weaknesses.

    • EndTimesComing

      You are the one who is clueless. European men, even in abject poverty, have always been inclined to be family men and very protective of the family unit. They have always been the primary teacher for male children and have demanded of those children a sense of honor and responsibility. It is the blacks who as a race have always had the penchant for impregnating, and then allowing women to do all the work including instructing and caring for children while the men drink, lie about, or seek other women to fornicate with. To European men in European culture wealth meant a better standard of living. To black me, wealth means having more wives to screw and then ignore. European men try to build a financial future for their children. Blacks see children as a nuisance, and spend any money they get immediately with no plan or concern for tomorrow. The Bell Curve stands true. You seem to be the one trying to spin a fantasy explaining away everything that has to do with racial behavior, intelligence, and differences as some old man’s imaginings. Nope. You be wrong, tonto.

      • ATBOTL

        All people respond to changes in the environment with changes in behavior, just like any other animals. Humans have several different built in reproductive strategies that are different for men and women. An environment where women do not need a man’s support for basic needs and where men have less to offer will push any population in the direction of more promiscuity and less stable pair bonding. These are biological facts.

        Note that once a women’s basic needs are met, she is free to seek fathers for her children who are presumed to have superior genes, even if she knows the father will not support the child. That’s a better strategy for propagating her genes than a modest increase in wealth from a husband who makes eight dollars an hour working 25 hours a week with no benefits or pension.

        • 5n4k33y35

          ATBOTL wrote: “I think this is more about economics than many conservatives want to
          think. The decline of the middle class, lower wages, fewer benefits,
          less job security, higher unemployment and underemployment as well as
          women entering the workforce and the feminization of the workplace and
          schools are playing a large role.”

          Wrong. Welfare makes it possible for broke people to afford to breed on other people’s income. They would stay married and raise just one or two kids if they were not given welfare. Welfare is the incentive. Welfare is a tax-payer-subsidized to breeding program.

          • mendells-selection

            Welfare ALSO used to be LOCAL. That means that the money one received came from the town or county one resided in. It was shameful back then as one faced the people that were supporting them every day. When it became federal, it became anonymous. IF black neighborhoods were forced to pay the welfare bill for the recipients that lived in that neighborhood they’d be killing those leaches.

          • http://twitter.com/LavMenace Crystal Lee Evans

            Welfare made it possible for the current situation of single mothers raising children fathered by several different men. Uncle Sam became their husband so they did not actually have to marry the father of their children.

          • ATBOTL

            Why is the white illegitimacy rate at 30% and climbing?

          • 5n4k33y35

            Because it is a two-pronged attack. Marxist Feminist ideology goes hand-in-hand with socialist economic policy.

            Feminist rhetoric encourages the destruction of the family unit. Government subsidizes single motherhood. The government replaces the husband and father.

          • David Ashton

            Plus the universal commercialization of the male orgasm. Anti-porn feminists have a point when they point to excessive de-personalization of male attitudes towards females.

          • mendells-selection

            YOu have been repeatedly told why. The question is, why do you pretend not to hear it?

          • s shadow

            For the same reasons that blacks and hispanics rate is climbing.
            The least able white girls want the welfare also, and are IQ mates to blacks and hispanics. The percent of whites is this category is much lower than the vast majority of blacks and hispanics who receive welfare. As the second generation of these types over reproduce the percentage of the whole increases.

        • EndTimesComing

          It’s not environmental at all. Europeans conquered their environments. They built civilizations even in the most inhospitable places, and even in the most remote places. I am not talking about a “civilization” composed of a few step pyramids and a culture that tears the hearts out of their enemies to appease a snake god. I am talking about civilizations thriving with art, literature, faith in a One God, laws meant to preserve that civilization, a bustling trade across the oceans and the planet. Europeans did that. Blacks, throughout history, and mexicans and south americans over the centuries have been totally incapable of producing anything like that. They remain savages whether they live in grass huts, tenement buildings built by whites, or adobe clay houses with no plumbing. Intellect matters. Race matters. Faith in a One God matters. To Europeans, prior to the intentional dismantlement of European faith and culture by treasonous vipers amongst us, the family unit was THE basis first and foremost for faith, where love and responsibility were taught to the next generation, where a desire to advance one’s race and nation began, and the future of the race and culture was ensured.

          • mendells-selection

            You are correct and the stark contrast between the public housing in Hong Kong and the public housing in America, filled with blacks, could not be more stark. It is not widely known but a little over 50% of the population of Hong Kong lives in Government housing. Much of those tall buildings are government built and run housing projects, yet throughout it’s history since millions of people fled communist China and had to live in this housing, the projects have been orderly, clean, well maintained, crime free. Contrast to any black housing project where violence, crime, illegitimacy and and decay are all around. Americans have been brainwashed to believe that the situation is because the housing is somehow “inadequate”. Look at the Chicago and other inner city public schools though, they are also wracked with violence, decay, crime and dysfunction. The blame is always put elsewhere but the real reason is that this is the nature of blacks.

          • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

            When high rise public housing projects were first built in America, blacks couldn’t wait to get out of their “slums” and get into them, because they were so nice compared to what they left. But then they ruined their nice high rises, and some of the “slums” they left are now gentrified and very expensive yuppie properties.

          • mendells-selection

            Yes sir. They destroy everywhere they go. They are like devil children that want “gibs”

          • mendells-selection

            you do realize that you have stumbled on the answer to the black problem. give them something free and they will rush headlong into it.

          • ATBOTL

            Bronze age whites did stuff like that too. Meso American civilization was still in the Bronze age when the white man came.

            Are you waiting for the rapture?

          • mendells-selection

            They turn tenements and houses into ramshackle falling down huts.

          • mendells-selection

            Nice post, well put. That is a manifesto of sorts right there, a manifesto of what you want the world to once again become.

            “family unit was THE basis first and foremost for faith, where love and responsibility were taught to the next generation, where a desire to advance one’s race and nation began, and the future of the race and culture was ensured.”

        • mendells-selection

          Blacks show the same behavior in all environments. You are pushing an agenda that is just plain wrong. You are like the conservatives who blame the failure of Detroit on “government policies”. It has nothing to do with government nor economics. It is genetic, it is the way they behave, in all environments. They have no “inner” morality, their behavior is governed solely by the threat of authority. Before the 60′s blacks felt that white America was the authority and they faced severe repercussions for not behaving by the norms of white America. All those constraints are now gone, and they show us what they really are like.

        • mendells-selection

          you sound like someone who just read a half baked textbook by a person who knew nothing about what he was writing. You soaked it all up uncritically, programmed to repeat the tired old jargon unthinkingly, like a reflex reaction.

    • jtree

      Bingo. Murray’s books are excellent for factual references but he fails to connect the dots. He , as an elite, cannot see what the working class has had to go through with “free” trade and globalization.

      • mendells-selection

        What does free trade and globalization have to do with single parent households? Nothing. Single parent households started becoming more and more common in the sixties- that was TWENTY YEARS before free trade and globalization. IT is purely a cultural and racial phenomenon. White people, historically have had a culture of two parent families. That culture was “imposed” on blacks until the sixties when blacks were “liberated”. Once liberated, they became exactly what they are in their own lands.

        • ATBOTL

          Then why is the white illegitimacy rate climbing too?

          Free trade and globalization lower wages which makes men less desirable as husbands.

          Family patterns fluctuate a lot over time, even for white people. See the Mormons for an example. Polygamy did not end in Northern Europe until about 1000 years ago, and defacto polygamy — where lords impregnated all the servant girls and peasant women, continued until very recently. What happening now is related to that kind of soft polygamy.

          I get the sense that a lot of people on this site are old people who don’t know any non college educated whites under the age of 40. There is cluelessness about the real world in many of these comments, as if people were trying to parody “right wing racist” views.

          The reductionism that many here advocate is both false and a terrible political strategy.

          • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

            Then why is the white illegitimacy rate climbing too

            My sense of the matter is that it’s part the economic causes you cite and part the fact that the taboo against it has weakened so much even among whites that it almost doesn’t exist anymore.

            Full disclosure: I’m a statistic in that stead, too. The sperm donor later proven and adjudicated to be my “father” just didn’t want to take responsibility for his actions when my mother called him on the night of my birth to tell him of the joyous news that he didn’t find too joyous. But, he easily had the income punch on his own to take care of both my mother (who also had her own adequate income) and myself. However, that which gave him his income source, which he had to rely on later to pay his court ordered child support, the Chrysler assembly line in St. Louis, is no longer operational, and no longer exists here.

          • mendells-selection

            They started climbing 20 years before free trade and globalization, you can’t say that something that hadn’t happened until 20 years after the fact was the cause of the fact.Sorry, you just can’t and pretend to want to be taken seriously. You certainly can’t when you say something like “Free trade and globalization lower wages which makes men less desirable as husbands.” that is the most ridiculous thing I ever heard. Do free trade and lower wages only affect men? I get the sense that any college educated whites under 40 think they are a lot smarter than they really are, if you are to judge. I have never heard such non reason, such sophistry being passed off as anything even worth saying.

        • Svigor

          Actually, there’s a strong motivation for capital to destroy marriage. See, a two-parent household means one sale for the home, the dishwasher, the stove, etc.

          A divorced “family” means two home sales, two dishwasher sales, two stove sales, etc.

    • wayne

      ABTTOL: communism is principally an economic system. The racial and cultural aspect was added as a requirement to bring about the economic part- namely a homogeneous, easily controlled, easily pacified, rootless mass of one- world laborers. To make this happen, race, nationality, and history must be defaced or destroyed. There is no separating the economics from the rest.

      • mendells-selection

        you do not know how to reason, you posit that one thing leads to another and to another when they don’t. Many socialist states were staunchly nationalistic. Economics do not influence rates of single motherhood, social norms and social pressure does. It may be true that feminists and communists have undermined and demoralized western societies, but that had nothing to do with people economic condition. The fact that really discredits your erroneous conclusion is that the incidence of one parent families rose during times when the economy was rather prosperous such as the sixties through the eighties. The rise of single parent families is more correctly tied to the rise in the availability of welfare and the rise of women in the workforce.

        • Wayne

          Communism according to Marx was supposed to come into being spontaneously as all the workers of the world cast aside nationality, race, religion, and family to be come a unified mass. When this failed to happen, Trotsky and Lenin postulated that a cadre of academia elites were needed to ignite the flame. This likewise was a failure and the reason was thought to be nationality and race. Hence the leftists created the school of Cultural Marxism to bring down the races and nationalities of the West through various schemes which have all been bearing fruit. So I am not saying that economics is the reason for the fatherless families, but rather the relentless attacks from cultural marxism, aka progressivism, aka social democracy, which in the end is designed to bring about the economic system of communism, aka totalitarianism, aka the New World Order, aka Globalism, aka Leftists Paradise.
          Racial differences in the family, I believe are very significant and brought about by adaptation to environment. I´m talking here about the West.

          • mendells-selection

            I see, yes, I agree there has been an agenda, called multiculturalism,to destroy western nationality and race. I believe though, that while it might appear to be bearing fruit at present, it is in fact strengthening peoples nationalistic identities, and will continue to do so more and more. The tide is turning in Europe, despite all efforts, popular sentiment is rejecting multiculti.Piers Morgan typifies the British example of this mindset yet he is increasingly seen as joke in Britain and they were glad to be rid of him and don’t want him back. Things have turned, the momentum will pick up. The coming economic collapse is going to totally discredit the academic,marxist, elites, or AMEs. Everything they have stood for will be seen to be wrong and traitorous.

          • David Ashton

            A good summary of what has happened with the New Left adaptation of Marx, Lenin, Gramsci, Marcuse and others to destroy western nations and families by “race, gender, class” or “equality and diversity” subversion.
            Good critical backgrounders (from your public library/Amazon): Frank Ellis, “Political Correctness and the Theoretical Struggle” (2004); Bruce Bawer, “The Victims’ Revolution: The rise of identity and the closing of the liberal mind” (2012); & Robert Wesson, “Why Marxism? The continuing success of a failed theory” (1976), esp. pp. 165-169,180-188

    • mendells-selection

      IF your theory that it is all economics is correct then the number of single parent families should have exploded during the depression of the 1930s, it didn’t. It was the values that changed. Economic conditions have always fluctuated but it was not until attitudes changed in the 60s and 70s that the family started to disintegrate. You have nothing. You are totally wrong.

      • gemjunior

        “You have nothing. You are totally wrong. You absurdly credit…. You do not know how to reason.”

        Is this how you speak to people? You must not have very many friends. Ever hear of diplomacy? You should use it when communicating with other AmReners; you aren’t speaking to a bunch of surly blacks but to people who presumably have similar goals to your own. When I see posts with attitude like yours it infuriates me. Why? Because there is very little hope for whites as a cohesive unit if they are unable to bounce things off one another in a relaxed way without receiving what seems to be obnoxious put-downs. Having attitude like yours makes you sound like you’re the kid in the front of the class waiting too correct the other kid. You sound like a dick you know.

        • mendells-selection

          So, you have no argument to rebut what I say so you fault me for my tone, which was no different than yours , I used some of the exact same words you used in an earlier post…. “Charles Murray’s recent book absurdly dismissed…” So, don’t get offended when others give you back what you give them.

          • gemjunior

            I have no argument to rebut what you say because everything you have said is right, and I agree, and I have given your posts many votes up. But you don’t know how to speak to others properly, and I’m only telling you that you DO NOT help the discourse when you have a gruff, rude and even confrontational with other posters. Whether they are women or men, I don’t think matters. Please understand that it’s nothing to do with the substance of your posts – I haven’t had a problem with one thing you’ve said. I’m hoping you will interact with more comraderie or type your posts with less of a pugnacious attitude. That’s all. Read my post again: other pro-whites are people that you should practice cultivating an attitude of kinship. Incidentally I am an older woman, and I agree with you wholeheartedly about feminism. I believe if women were devoted to raising their children they would not be such enfant savages.

          • mendells-selection

            go scold someone else, i am not your child, your student or your husband

          • mendells-selection

            You are just a scold and I am gladly not your husband nor your child, nor your student. YOu should not but in where you don’t have anything to add but your desire to scold someone for being strong.

          • gemjunior

            Yes, when scolding is needed I will dispense it. I stand for no nonsense, sir quite simply. By the way, it’s “butt” in. Being “strong” is an admirable quality but that was not the case. You should just be “strong” enough to realize there is a certain way to exchange opinions. You can continue to be petulant rather than understand my point. Ad hominems are always a thing to be avoided. “I bet you must be a woman! You are a scold!” I am always the former, and sometimes the latter if necessary. I am through with this however as it seems to bear no fruit whatsoever.

          • mendells-selection

            so, you are telling me I am wrong because I told someone else they were wrong so what does that make YOU–answer- even MORE wrong because you have the same attitude as liberals- a holier than thou scolder. Mind your own business. YOu can continue to think you have some authority and call me names like petulant. You are not the moderator so stop acting like you are.

        • ATBOTL

          He probably has Asperger’s syndrome like a lot of the people who post on sites like this. These people tend to have one track minds and have trouble considering that a phenomenon can have multiple causes. Or maybe he just has never been to Kentucky.

          • mendells-selection

            when you move out of your parents house and get a job let us know

          • Svigor

            Yes, the ‘spergy types do seem to have “one cause” monomania. Weird.

          • Michael_C_Scott

            We prefer to be called “Aspys”.

      • ATBOTL

        The map is about rate of decline in two parent households. You read it wrong. KY has on of the highest rates of decline, with TN close behind.

        “Kentucky and Tennessee which are majority white and where a good portion of those white people may be considered “poor” that there is almost a compete absence of single parent households.”

        LOL.

        You sure ’bout that?

        • mendells-selection

          click on the map sir , Kentucky and Tennessee are are NOTICEABLE for the ABSENCE of the red and brown areas. The ONLY areas in Tennessee are near memphis, which has a large BLACK population. Highest rate of decline does not mean the largest number. If an area had 50% SP households and still has 50% SP households then that rate would be 0% decline. Kentucky and Tennessee may have dropped from 95% to 89.4% SP households- a 6% decline. You are reading the decline as indicative of the total percentage. It isn’t judging by the map. I am correct, Kentucky and Tennessee have a relatively high rate, higher than states around them of single parent households

    • William

      I agree. Moreover, he used to sleep with prostitutes when he was in the Peace Coprs.

  • Rosebud

    When there’s no male adult figure in any household to set positive examples for children to grow up on live by, the consequences are usually quite negative for the child as an adult and for the society at large.

    No where is this fact more evident than in Black America in which absentee fathers are almost commonplace. Although I’m pleased to say that this negative phenomenon has begun to reverse itself, I fear that the damage to the black American family structure may have been done. The sterotypical black kid has no father or positive black male adult figure to look up to; so he seeks guidance from less-than upstanding members of his community (I.e, “gangstas”, drug dealers and other assorted criminals.) With fathers to steer them in the right direction, it’s little wonder that a lot of black boys (mixed with today’s rap “music) are the way they are.

    As for who’s at fault for this, I think that a lot of it has to do with the devolving role of the men play in our society. Nowadays, the American man has become virtuallyunately. irrelevant via demasculation and hyper-feminazation. Let’s face it, men just aren’t allowed to be men anymore; and until major changes in our culture takes place, I don’t see ending any time soon, unfortunately.

    • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

      I think you’re confusing cause and effect. Why are there so many absentee fathers in black America? All over the world, black fathers are less than studious when it comes to rearing their children. It’s as if there’s some sort of genetic commonality. You say that black men-children (remember, there is no such thing as a black “boy”) have no positive role models, so they turn to gang bangers. As if their own natural fathers aren’t already gang bangers?

      Another problem: If you ask a black man to “go back to his kids,” if he doesn’t whack you or murder you, he’ll ask you which one of his “babymammaz” he should marry, and why he should act as a father to the children she has had by other men plus her children by him.

      Relative black monogamy was purely a function of the relative lack of a welfare state plus the segregationist system imposing white mores onto blacks (somewhat). When we took the latter away, and then re-instituted a de facto system of low hanging fruit via welfare and EBT cards, we basically re-implemented Africa, and blacks went back to being who they really were all along and back to acting out their genetic imperative.

      Yes, I agree there is hyper-feminization. But it has not yet and probably will not ever lead to white people ever being as bad as blacks. Writ large: Sweden. Obsessed as hell with gender egalitarianism, but (aside from its own African diaspora), not a ghetto and very little crime.

      • 5n4k33y35

        This state of affairs was accomplished by the progressive black / progressive Jew / Feminist axis.

        • Rosebud

          More like the “quartet of evil”; that is, if you factor in progressive/liberal whites.

          • 5n4k33y35

            Nope. Self-hating white progressives are the product, not the ones cultivating this state of affairs. Organized homosexuals would be the next one, but I lump them together with Feminists.

        • mendells-selection

          Are there any prominent feminists that weren’t Jews?

          • baltasar almudárriz

            A lot of it is probably a reaction to an Orthodox or nearly Orthodox family environment. As I recall- Andrea Dworkin or Shulamit Firestone were both reared in conservative milieus – and look what happened!

          • David Ashton

            As I have posted previously, Andrew Dworkin deserves qualified praise for her physically courageous opposition to sadistic porn merchants.

          • Observer

            Elizabeth Cady Stanton , Bell hooks, Jane Fonda to name three

          • mendells-selection

            Jane Fonda was not a “feminist Leader” she did not do writings, she did nothing to form the movement. She posed in sexually revealing garb in movies and stood on a north vietnamese antiaircraft weapon. She did participate in the anti war movement, that does not make her a feminist leader. So you have two names, and already they are outnumbered by tens of Jewish names- in a country where jews only made up a 2% of the population. They say a rising tide raises all boats, I say a fast moving stream sweeps some things along the side with it. The America feminist movement was a Jewish concoction.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            Thanks for pointing this out. I never understand why so many men in this movement think it is constructive and healthy to go on continuous rants about how most white women are feminists, and how it is understandable that some white men prefer Asian women. We even have leaders in this movement who spout this nonsense. Why do they think it is beneficial to be perpetually in a state of anger directed at white women? They need to direct their anger at liberals and such, and the subgroup of women who are in fact feminists.

          • Svigor

            I always look askance at the “hostile environment” thing. Like there’d really be lots of women flocking to European Advocacy if all the nasty white brutes would just behave. And there’d be tons of female mathematicians if mathematics weren’t so “patriarchal” and “sexist.”

            Nah, I don’t buy it.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            You seem to enjoy following me around on here finding a bone to pick with all of my comments. I never said that women are equal to men in mathematical ability or that they will ever be as racially conscious. But it seems you had a fun time taking a jab at me, implying that I said that, so you can make me look like a feminist even though I haven’t said anything feminist. Forgive me for being concerned about the healthiness of white male and female attitudes towards each other so that we can move forward procreating as a race. You don’t seem to want that. You seem to enjoy advising white men to avoid marriage. There goes our race. I don’t have a problem with white men in general, but this movement tends to attract a lot of bitter ones like you who think it is constructive to spend time harrassing me, instead of going after feminists and liberals and other enemies.

          • David Ashton

            Do not discount the lesbian element, “Sappho was a right-on woman” &c. Nor the Jewish opponents (however few relatively) of this disintegration- phenomenon; e.g. Midge Decter, Melanie Phillips, &c.

      • Sherman_McCoy

        I believe that genetic component is called the “r” factor, i.e., the nurturing factor. That black American family was in much better shape in a “white-run” country when they tended to behave themselves better. Funny, you only have to look at SA to see how true that statement is.

      • mendells-selection

        Yes, Until the 60′s black in America felt they had to conform to white norms. The pressure to do so is now gone and they are reverting to their true nature. I would say that in fact, there is a pressure for white people to conform to black norms and that partly explains the rate of single white mothers.

    • mendells-selection

      I think it is no accident that the black community has the highest rate of male homosexuality. A male child that does not have a father who is present is in great danger of becoming homosexual. Each child is born with their own temperament and some temperaments are very vulnerable to becoming homosexual without being able to bond to an adult male figure early on. It is through a relationship with a father that male children learn the subtleties of male bonding. Those who don’t achieve this stage of development end up learning, from their mother, the female form of bonding instead. They are then forever shunned by male children because male children and female children don’t act the same in this regard. This is why homosexuals think it is inborn because as long as they can remember they have been treated as being different and felt like an outsider. They were different, in subtle ways, and the male children rejected them the same as they would reject a female child who tried to mix in.

      • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

        Except I generally don’t take the homosexuality of black men and the homosexuality of white men as the same. Most white men who are homosexuals are engaging in a deliberate lifestyle choice (*), while most black men who are “homosexuals” are just having intercourse with the closest and most conveniently available orifice.

        (*) – I know, the credible science so far demonstrates that homosexuality is somewhere in between a pure choice and a genetic imperative.

        • mendells-selection

          Uhhhh, I don’t know, there seems to be a higher incidence of effeminacy amongst black males than white males. That is more than a head addled by testosterone. And the black males that are effeminate are often freakishly so. I see this on college campuses. The effeminate ones are three times more likely to be black.

          • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

            Don’t worry. I’ve seen my fair share of black men who, shall we say, head to Florida or Arizona a few weeks before all the other players arrive. (“Pitchers and catchers report early”) So I am well aware that there are black men who engage in homosexuality as a matter of conscious choice (slash genetic imperative maybe, blah blah).

            And now that we’ve broached this subject, I’m anxiously awaiting “Gay Black Man,” who only ever posts to AR when this subject comes up, to tell me about how I’m all wet…er, wrong. Sorry, that came out wrong.

          • mendells-selection

            you lost me on the florida and arizona thing-are you saying the professional aff-leet ball players….well….. play ball?. Never heard of “Gay Black Man” Was that a character on “In Living Color” similar to “handyman”?

          • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

            Metaphor, my kind man.

            But while we’re on that subject, one of the long awaited holy grails of the LGBTQMIAPDLOLPLPLTH community is that some male professional athlete in a high profile sport comes out of the closet. Yes, there’s the WNBA, and yes, some post-retirement men who played big time pro ball in some major sports have come out. But what they really want is a gay man to come out as gay while he’s in the NFL or NBA or NHL or MLB or some major soccer or rugby league somewhere in the world. That’s because the Official LGBTQMIAPDLOLPLPLTH Community (that now de facto includes the SPLC) already have the sob story boo hoo whoa-is-him he’s-being-bullied-and-terrorized stories and fund raising letters pre-written, just waiting on name and date to be filled in.

            And, just based on pure odds, there are probably a handful of homosexual men engaged in big time professional sports right now. But I think they reason they won’t come out isn’t because they fear abuse in the locker room from their teammates, they dread the media circus from the sports media and “alternate orientation” media that will surround their locker after every game, who will from that point forward ever only ask him questions about sex, not about sports.

          • mendells-selection

            wow a whole alphabet of community, who knew. You seem to have given this much more thought than I think it merits. Personally I don;t think there are many if any gay professional aff-leets. It takes a lot of psychological “sqwernkff” to be a professional aff-leet. I once made a gay cashier cry at a store, CRY, CRY and WALK OFF SOBBING. You want to know how? He was bitter, the day after GW Bush won his second presidential election, he was going on and on to the other cashier. All I said was ” wow, so we have to listen to the bitterness for another four years”, he started ranting then melted down to sobbing, then walked away.

          • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

            That the homosexuality rate among men who are major pro athletes is lower than the homosexuality rate among men in general is a supposition (probably a true one) not lost on me. However, the law of averages dictate that there must be a few. One of the very first men who came out of the closet after his playing career was over was a “British” mulatto who played some years in the NBA, name escapes me. But he did say he was just as gay when he actually played in the NBA as he was at the moment he came out. All I did is advance a rational theory to explain why the ones who are both gay and currently playing won’t come out, and like I said, it probably has nothing to do with the fear of homophobic bullying.

            As for The Acronym, as it stands now, the “official” acronym for the alternate lifestyle is LGBTQMIAPD. Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Questioning, (I don’t know what M means), Intersexual, Asexual, Pansexual, Demisexual. I was mistaken before — The real holy grail for that community is an official acronym that involves every letter in the alphabet, and they’re already 10 letters there. Since the acronym is becoming a catch-all for anyone who just so happens not to be a pair-bonding heterosexual, I’m sure they might find a way to get there. In the meantime, I snarkily embellish the Official Acronym with a few silly time acronyms of my own.

          • Gay Black Man

            He was referring to me. A well educated Black professional man in his late 30s.

          • Gay Black Man

            Hello. Your wait is over. I have arrived.The truth is that there are a number of Black men ( I am one of them) who are openly Gay and do embrace the lifestyle as a matter of choice. The same can be said for men of all ethncities. However, there are many more White men (at least this has been my experience) who are in the closet about their sexual orientation. They live very “heterosexual” lives in public, but engage in rampant homosexual activity in private. As I have mentioned on this website in the past, I myself have been the victim of a number of deceptive White men (many of whom are married and have families) who are either in denial or obscure their same sex urges from their wives and the larger public. Some have responded with violence when I have confronted them about their devious and arguably, sinister behavior. It is indeed a sad and tormenting predicament for many of them.

            P.S. I sporadically comment on other topics on this board as well.

          • Gay Black Man

            Not true.

          • Sean

            Not testosterone, estrogen. I post this link far too much.

            http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/92/7/2519.long

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jessica-Bates/100000284781928 Jessica Bates

    You always hear studies these days that claim that America is getting fatter/shorter or that our national IQ is plummeting. It’s a kneejerk reaction to imagine a White person when you hear the statistics, because for so long, to be American was to be White. Nothing could be further from the truth. We are importing in millions of short, fat, stupid people. People from the jungles of South America who have never worn a shirt, or from the Dark Continent who don’t know how to spell their own name. Foolish liberals imagine we are evolving as a species. When 30 million short, fat, stupid creatures crawl across your border overnight, guess what? Statistically, the national waistline is going to expand, and the national iq is going to mysteriously plummet. Or, as in this instance, what a surpise– many “americans” these days don’t have fathers. I am shocked. How did that happen? It’s like it happened overnight.

    • Remington

      What you’re saying about illegals and liberals is absolutely correct, but Whites are indeed getting fatter. I don’t know how old you are, but I clearly remember that there never was as many obese White children and adults just 30 years ago. The fact that blacks and Amerindians are much worse doesn’t change the fact that we also have to clean house. This is the same fallacy that is commonly made in AR to embrace Asian immigration because they are smarter and less violent than Hispanics. It’s irrelevant to White survival and a lesser evil is still evil. Moreover, our own people are also getting dumber by the minute with all that newer garbage from Hollywood, video games,reality shows and Internet porn we never had before.

      Let’s point the finger at the culprit indeed, but let’s not pretend that we are as clean as a whistle either…

      • mendells-selection

        the anti- dietary fat, high carb diet as well as HFC is to blame

        • Bon, From the Land of Babble

          Is that Hilary Fordham Clinton?

          Yes, you’re right, she IS to blame!!

          Bon

          • mendells-selection

            LOL, High Fructose Cornsyrup. I would think Hilary would put people off food

        • Svigor

          Over-eating is to blame, AKA, gluttony. I think diet is a close second, though, but the two are related.

  • Howard W. Campbell

    When you click on the map and go to the green areas, I have yet to find one that has a majority of blacks or hispanics. I guess they are the outliers to the “Family Values” that we heard about from Bush 43. Shut off the money from the GIBSMEDAT and these numbers will adjust quickly.

    Dr. Walter Williams wrote an article on time bemoaning the high illegitimacy rate among blacks. Included in the article was this approximate quote. “In Harlem in 1925, 85% of the kids lived in 2 parent households. The majority of the remaining single parents were widows. Surely in Harlem in 1925 people were poorer and there was more discrimination.” All it takes is political will (which will be helped along when the money runs out).

    • 5n4k33y35

      Precisely. When tax payers are forced by the government to subsidize disreputable women, you end up with a matriarchy, especially when their stock is descended from primitive tribal society in the first place.

  • Tim

    One in three. My Old man had that same slogan made into an Atlantic convoy bumper sticker. I`m grateful as hell we BOTH “made it!!”…Thanks Pops

  • shattered

    The modern liberals declared a war on men… a war on fathers, brothers, and sons. It looks like they have won their war to a large extent.

    • baltasar almudárriz

      Because you didn’t know that you were weak.

      • Sherman_McCoy

        In the West, where many women subscribe to the idea that they have a right to “have it all,” most divorces are instigated by women, unsatisfied with their husbands’ prospects, attractiveness, etc. Many believe in the myth of the greener grass. And when they leave their husband, they leave him shattered. Half or more of his possessions, his children, crushing child-support payments, and the woman he loved gone. I fully understand why so many men don’t want to marry. It’s a dangerous thing.

        Weak? Devastated is more like it.

        • Nathanwartooth

          By the time I was 21 I had heard so many divorce horror stories that I swore never to get married. I still keep hearing them to this day.

          Marriage is such a one sided affair that unless you trust the woman 100% there is little in it for you. Just the risk that she can walk away whenever she wants, get the kids, half your stuff and force you to pay through the nose or go to jail is horrible enough.

          • sarah stein

            All young men hear and see the horror stories, yet they still get stupid, even after other men have warned them. “Oh, my girl is not like that”. lol.

          • mendells-selection

            girl of one’s dreams, nightmare of schemes, never shanges

          • mendells-selection

            I wold say that today a man should just pay a female to have his children. Never marry her but give her the option to stay around for the first year or so to nurse and raise the child to the age of a toddler. She would have no legal claim to the child and one could get rid of her the minute she was a problem.

          • Michael_C_Scott

            That’s a bit heartless.

        • Ron Cheaters

          Worse yet, they plan amongst themselves and know how to ruin a man.. all it takes is a fall down the stairs, or to fall out of a car.. then when the cops arrive all she has to do is say “he pushed me!”
          Then your life is over, she’s on the fast-track to assistance and a new live-in man-servant.. and if you’re not in jail, then you’re at least tarred and feathered in the eyes of your friends, work, and community. It happens every day.

        • mendells-selection

          I hope that is not experience talking

        • baltasar almudárriz

          Everytime I try to raise the issue of men’s rights WITH regular American guys- they either change the subject or their cellphone rings (Yes- Dear!) – thereby cutting off any opportunity to do some “consciousness raising”. The only guys I know that can handle the subject (and willing to spend time to discuss it at the coffeeshops) are the North Africans and Levantines (both Christian and Muslim). American joeblows don’t even give me the time of day – so I say – you deserve what you get for not “getting tight” with potential allies. Ironically – I get strong support from the Afro-American guys. Why can they handle the subject – while Whitey usually can’t/won’t?

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bardon-Kaldian/100003542251801 Bardon Kaldian

            Because superior mental ability is highly correlated to emotional-mental vulnerability. In other words- dumbs don’t have much to lose.

          • Sherman_McCoy

            Happy to see you’ve joined us, and that you have strong opinions. Do you mean to say that white American men will just not converse with you? Certainly there are the pussy whipped who are afraid to admit what’s happened to men’s rights in America (courtesy of liberal and feminist family court justices), but I think many of us known of what you speak. And you will find VERY few people on Amren who believe that they have any common cause with blacks, who make unreliable allies, at best. Blacks have always been known for spreading their seed everywhere (worthless as it is) and creating masses of Bantus and half-Bantus. And it would not matter with Whom one is allied when the entire system has been subverted by cultural Marxists to destroy the American family. Moreover, so-called “equal opportunity” laws, factories being sent offshore, and tech jobs being filled by the cheapest workers available rom India has made it nearly impossible for a man to support his family, while keeping his wife home to raise the children.

            I have found my own solutions by leaving the US, marrying a Russian (who thinks blacks are barely one-step above apes, that embracing Islam would be a one-way ticket straight to hell,but mot importantly, that family always comes first), and finding a niche where I can earn an above-average salary for the country in which I live.

            But feel free to stop by and chat any time. This “Joe Blow” is happy to chat any time.

          • gemjunior

            Well, the answer is as plain as the nose on your face. White men do not sit around in coffeeshops all day like the others you’ve mentioned, because they shoulder the burden of paying for the housing and food of those who do sit around in the coffeeshops, spending money that was put in their pockets by the white men who can’t sit in the coffeeshops and talk with everyone mentioned because they have to work. They can apply for “assistance” all they want but will not ever recieve it because they are white. So they can’t join the coffee-drinking philosophers who are at the same time bad-mouthing the white guy even as he labors to put food on THEIR tables. Sound wrong? Well, that’s because it is!

          • Svigor

            I agree, most white men are dupes and deserve what they get on this front. Until white men “harden up” so to speak, they deserve to be fleeced.

    • EndTimesComing

      Only on WHITE men. They never had to make war on black men, because black men were already irresponsible and selfish and useless. For black men, all they had to do was release the white man’s restraints on them. For white men, they had to make actual war on them, institute judges, laws, media propaganda, a whole massive program to emasculate them, imprison them if they acted like men, and disparage men’s role in society as oppressive, cruel, prehistoric, tyrannical, etc. At the same time they were telling women that they were as good as men in EVERY way, that men oppressed them, that men held them back, and that traditional women’s roles of caring for children, teaching them values, providing them love 24/7, teaching them respect for authority, etc were all archaic ideas meant to imprison them. But for black men and women? They only had to remove the restraints on blacks that whites had in place to ensure blacks behaved at least minimally according to white standards. Once that was removed, blacks reverted back to their native cultural and genetic historical behaviors.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bardon-Kaldian/100003542251801 Bardon Kaldian

        In short, what’s natural to humanoids was forced upon humans.

      • David Ashton

        Another recommendation on this very subject from your self-appointed AR “librarian”:
        George F. Gilder, “Sexual Suicide” (NY: Quadrangle, 1973), still worth reading today.

  • baltasar almudárriz

    The last place I saw fairly intact families/clans was during one of my tours through Turkey. An amazing country and people- for those with eyes to see. I was humbled by the quiet, unassuming hospitality and good manners.

    • 5n4k33y35

      Good people. Too bad about their government.

      • baltasar almudárriz

        Ironic, isn’t it? Seems to be a chicken-or-egg question — do families stay together as a defense against bad government? Or do people who think their government is fair feel that they can do without their families? Many other angles come to mind.

      • Sherman_McCoy

        And their wacky, medieval religion. And their uncontrolled breeding and going on the dole ASAP in Germany. Some are OK, many here are leeches.

        But, they probably ARE all those things that baltasar wrote . . . in Turkey.

        • baltasar almudárriz

          Most of the immigrants in Germany are from the poorer/rural areas of Anatolia and Eastern/Southeastern Turkey- and predominantly Kurdish.

          • mendells-selection

            Deutschland ist “geKurdelt”?

          • Sherman_McCoy

            I see. Sort of like the problem America has with Mestizos. Meanwhile, the intelligent, upper class (white) Spaniards are the elite, and happy to remain in Mexico. Thanks for the info.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    More proof that LBJ’s Great Society and War on Poverty have been a huge success.

    It took only two generations to achieve illegitimacy rates of 70+% in the black community, 60% in the American Indian population, 53.3% in the Hispanic community and 30% in the White community.

    The cultural marxists’ targeted goals of destruction of the family, fathers replaced with government, life long, multi-generational welfare dependency and guaranteed Democrat voters are nearly complete. White American dads who remained at home and provided for their families were mocked and portrayed as weaklings and fools by the media. The feminists screeched that traditional families are a “social construct” and that fathers are unnecessary and “oppressive” to children.

    The leftoids are ecstatic. This is one more step to their idea of utopia. POTUS will be decided by whomever promises the most government handouts.

    The election this time was close; the next election won’t be.

    Bon

    • mendells-selection

      you left something out- then we were told that two men having sex and living together was the moral and ethical equivalent of a traditional family.

    • David Ashton

      Good analysis.

      Skeptics can trace much of this back to the Cultural Marxists themselves: Herbert Marcuse, “An Essay on Liberation” (1969); Bertell Ollman, “Social and Sexual Revolution” (1979); Frantz Fanon, “The Wretched of the Earth” (1965); Kate Millett, “Sexual Politics” (1970);&c.

  • odius liberal

    This is what the government wants, easier to control people who accept the government as the father.

  • LHathaway

    “European men, even in abject poverty, have always been inclined to be family men and very protective of the family unit.. .

    A white man living in poverty has less a chance of getting married than that it will snow in Miami tomorrow. White men often move in and out of poverty, by getting a better job or by working two jobs, and at one of these points, perhaps a woman would marry him. By contrast, poor men of color will sometimes marry. You claim Charles Murray is behind the times, I suspect you may be a decade or two behind him.

    White men may indeed still live by these values you discuss, perhaps poor white men than rich white men. The only value in this to others is lower crime rate among their population. . . These values may be of benefit, however, if they happen to adopt a cat or dog.

    • mendells-selection

      I know several couples that married poor but eventually became middle class. One couple owned a trailer home for a number of years. People joke about people in trailers, but the common perception of trailer parks is totally wrong. The rate of ownership is high and the crime is low. They are generally white neighborhoods, well maintained, and people don’t stay there their whole lives. Yes more poor whites can be found in them, but they are generally functioning, safe neighborhoods with social trust.

  • Doppleganger

    I seriously doubt it’s across all races. Assuming an adequate sample size, the Asian statistics were probably omitted because there wasn’t any appreciable change.

    • Anon

      The illegitimate birthrate for American-born asian women is 30%. Higher than the rate for white women.

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        Do you have a link for that stat? I’d like to add it to my database.

        Thanks,

        Bon

      • gemjunior

        Where did you get that info, which is suspect. I say this only because I’ve read plenty of credible stats – Richard Lynn & Tatu Vanhanen – that show Asian women having the least out of wedlock births.

  • wayne

    The sainthood of the single mom– they are above criticism in this leftist society. They are always in the right, they are always superior to their lowly housewife ancestors, society is, among other things, designed around lifting them up on the pedestal, making them the heroes, and subsidizing their failure. It is heresy to point out that a single parent home is in anyway whatsoever disadvantaged or inferior to real family.

    • Svigor

      Adam Lanza = raised by single mother.

  • wayne

    Marriage is, first and foremost, an economic institution for the producing of children. Nature has established it thus. Leftism, in it’ s various forms, hates nature and nature’ s God most of all. Every government program to “help” has in fact, hurt the institution. Government has subsidized failed marriage by rewarding, or at least making it tolerable. Absent leftist meddling, marriage, proven to stand the test of time, would bounce back. Against the unsubsidized struggle to provide food, shelter, and clothing for their children, the people would come to realize that marriage as a selfcentered, me first, state of permanent bliss and “love/lust” sold by pop culture and Hollywood was a big lie, and that leaving your not so charming, not so handsome, boring mate who can put food on the table and a roof over your head, bear and nuture children to pursue Mr. Dashing or Ms. Sexy who can neither hold down a descent job or serve as a role model for children is NOT a good idea.

    • David Ashton

      That is why “gay marriage” is an oxymoron. Historically matrimony socially sanctions and reinforces a father’s commitment to his own offspring and the woman who has borne them. The sterility of male sodomite partnerships is something else, and not comparable symbolically to lifelong heterosexual commitments between men and women unable or reluctant to reproduce.

      • mendells-selection

        Gay marriage also reinforces the erroneous notion that marriage is for “personal fulfillment” or for “pleasure”. Women started changing the meaning of marriage in the early part of this century. The whole romance myth that hollywood has been peddling is a result of that. IT is about commitment and honor. Arranged marriages do much better than “romance” marriages in cultures where they still exist. Women’s expectations are way to high. They are spoiled and think life is always supposed to be wonderful. The prettier they are, the worse they are in this regard.

  • jay11

    Wait a cotton-pickin’ minute!
    Feminists say (and you can find this all over the net) that a woman does just fine by herself and does not need a man or husband in her life to raise a smart, well-adjusted kid. Articles in Time and Newsweek have also promoted this. There’s even a whole slew of books with titles like The End of Men or some such other titles that say women can raise kids just fine by their own selves.
    But then obviously “anti-women” articles like this come along that keep mentioning terms like ‘male role models’ and ‘two-parent’ families being better and all that. Obviously ‘biased’ research also seems to consistently show that kids from two parent households do better in school, stay more out of trouble and have fewer emotional issues than kids from single-parent, female-headed households.
    So who is right? The liberals cannot make up their mind. They are all for ‘sexual revolution’, ‘destroying the patriarchy’ and ‘abolishing marriage’ without any consequences, but then the problems are suffered by the kids.

  • mendells-selection

    What percentage of the “poor white” single mothers are women who have children by black men? Hmmmmm?????? How can it be that the percentage for whites above the poverty line and for whites of all income levels is the same when the percentage for poor whites is 32%? I would think that such a low percentage for poor whites would make the number for all income levels lower than the number for those white families above the poverty line? IT doesn’t affect it at all. How can that be? My guess is that the number of white families below the poverty line is rather small and that it consists mostly of single white women with children by black men.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bardon-Kaldian/100003542251801 Bardon Kaldian

      About 3% of all children born to White mothers have a Black father. Ca. 80% have a White father & the residual percentage is, if we factor out Orientals & Indians, ca. 15%. It’s described as “others” or “not specified”. I guess mostly non-White Hispanics & various “mixed” people like Pakistanis or darker Arabs like Egyptian presidents Sadat or Mubarak.

  • like obama like dog

    Just like their dog faced beanpole hero in the WH who they all want to emulate. What mutt canine knows his daddy anyway? They say you are what you eat and clearly growing up in SE Asia he ate dog meat 3 times a day so that’s what he looks like. Even when he runs down airplane steps he holds his paws up to his chest like a mutt. His facial features clearly resembles a mutt Heinz 57 at the pound on his last bark ready for an injection.

  • mendells-selection

    “In every state, 7 in 10 white children do”… live in two parent households. Does anyone else realize this is not what the media has been telling us? They constantly tell us things to make us think that marriage is a hopeless and extinct concept. Things such as “more than half of all marriages end in divorce” etc etc. The media has been trying its best to destroy white families.It hasn’t been working that well though.

  • A Multiracial Ph.D Student

    [Twelve percent of black families below the poverty line have two
    parents present, compared with 41 percent of impoverished Hispanic
    families and 32 percent of poor white families.]

    If paternal presence in the home is the primary metric one is using to gauge a father’s worth, then what does this statistic reveal about poor White men vs. poor Hispanic men? Is there any intellectual honesty around here?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bardon-Kaldian/100003542251801 Bardon Kaldian

      It’s not about White men, it’s about White women. Who said that WW single mothers have White babies ?

      • A Multiracial Ph.D Student

        Do you have any data that shows that most of these poor, White, single parent households were created with a non-White absentee spouse/partner? If I am not too mistaken, “miscegenation” is still largely uncommon in this nation. I see no reason to assume that most poor, single parent White households are the result of interracial coupling. Of course, if there is some evidence that suggests that I would be more than willing to examine it.

  • David Ashton

    Many comments here bring together a collection, which must be considered together, of important points in explaining the causes and consequences of this deplorable development of polysexual hedonism and reproductive anarchy. The old “communist” aims of “free love”, female industrialization, and state “care” for any offspring, are combined with the new “capitalist” commerce of sex-clubs, pink pound, and child-porn. From Bebel to De Sade.

    • mendells-selection

      “pink pound”— single childless adults over a certain age should be taxed at very high rates, this is one tax I would agree with. If they are not going to participate in continuing the society, they should not be allowed to have a joy ride through it.

    • gemjunior

      I’ve never heard about “pink pound” but of course I’m curious to know what fresh hell these pornographic Gomorrha dwellers have invented. I don’t know if I’m going to google it, or just let it go and remain blissfully ignorant….

      • David Ashton

        The “pink pound” is a British phrase to describe the disproportionate current wealth of homosexual men without children and the power it exerts over the media and politicians, quite apart from their own trade in “gay” literature, porn, sex-aids and social centers.

  • rudeboi

    No matter what it will always be them Black people’s fault. Sounds really familiar to me…blame everyone else.

  • Skip

    The fact is that far too many White guys are promiscuous compared to years ago. Nowadays, they will sleep with anything that has a vagina. For those under 40, this means a non-White vagina as well.

    • David Ashton

      Contraception+porn-culture=more male sex addiction.

  • PesachPatriot

    Who needs fathers or stable families when kids can be raised by the telescreen, big pharma and the EBT card….imagine how things may have turned out if the founding fathers grew up fatherless…