Mother Murdered Son for ‘Failing to Learn the Koran’

Telegraph (London), November 1, 2012

A mother murdered her young son and set his body on fire when he struggled to learn the Koran off by heart, a court has heard.

Sara Ege used a stick to beat seven-year-old Yaseen “like a dog” if he couldn’t recite passages from the Islamic text.

The beatings were so brutal that the boy died from his injuries, and his mother tried to burn the body to destroy the evidence, Cardiff Crown Court was told.

Yaseen was originally thought to have died in the house fire. But a post-mortem examination showed Mrs Ege had been beating and abusing her little boy in the months leading up to his murder.

In a video recording of her interview with police, Mrs Ege told them: “I was trying to teach him the Koran.

“I was getting more and more frustrated. If he didn’t read it properly I would be very angry — I would hit him.

“We had a high target. I wanted him to learn 35 pages in three months.

“I promised him a new bike if he could do it. But Yaseen wasn’t very good — after a year of practice he had only learnt a chapter.”

The court heard Mrs Ege, 32, a university graduate, and her husband, Yousuf, had enrolled Yaseen in advanced classes at their local mosque.

They wanted him to become a hafiz — an Islamic term for someone who memorises the Koran.

Yaseen was coming to the end of a three-month trial period at the mosque, and Ege was keen for him to impress his Imam.

Mrs Ege told officers: “I was getting all this bad stuff in my head, like I couldn’t concentrate, I was getting angry too much, I would shout at Yaseen all the time.”

She also hit him with a hammer, a rolling pin and a slipper, as well as repeatedly punching him, the court heard.

She would allegedly lock him in the shed, tie him to a door, and force him to do press-ups.

In the months after Yaseen’s death, Mrs Ege told a doctor she been told to kill him by Shaitan — an Islamic name for the devil, the court was told.

She said: “I have become so harsh, I even killed my own son.”

Her husband, 38, denies causing or allowing the death of a child by not stopping the beatings.

The trial continues.

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  • mobilebay

    These people are sub-human savages, and we continue to bring them here.

  • Oil Can Harry

    Lets sing along, all together now:

    Muslims! Meet the Muslims,

    They’re a modern stone age family,

    From the town of Mecca,

    They’re a page right out of history…

    • Strider73

      The Flintstones, Rubbles and the rest of Bedrock were far more civilized.

  • IstvanIN

    This is good news, it shows equality of the sexes.  Usually some girl gets whacked for an errant glance or for mispronouncing  something, nice to see boys are held to high standards as well.

  • AngloWelsh

    I live in Wales, about 30 miles from where this abominable crime occurred. I moved into this middle-class suburban neighbourhood twelve years ago, when there was barely a non-White to be seen. Now, the Primary School near me is being taken over by Muslims, and they are starting to move into the secondary school opposite. Their breeding rates are phenomenal. Given twenty years, this area (like many in the north of England) is likely to be yet an another Muslim enclave, riven with racial tensions, and I’ll have likely moved out to any remaining safe White area I can find. Other than voting for the BNP (who are not making any real headway), what can we do?

    • IstvanIN

       But, like your cousins across the sea, you folks continue to vote in the same fellows who have given your tiny island kingdom away.  Why don’t people vote BNP?  In a parliamentary system they have more of a chance than in our very fixed two-party system.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/7RORAJVG7LJJZECDJIILHJBE7U So CAL Snowman

         Why don’t people vote for the American National Party?  Oh wait . . .

        • IstvanIN

           We should have more parties, but the two we have have a lock on everything.

          • Michael_C_Scott

            Surely you mean “one-and-a-half” parties instead of two?

    • idissent

      Where is the outrage for letting these people into your country? 

      Where are the protests? 

      Where are the brave warriors who didn’t mind slaughtering each other  because of religion? 

      Now the neutered males do not  lift a  finger to save their own countries from the dark invaders,  NOT A WORD! 

      Where are the warriors?

      Actions speak louder than words!   GIVE ME A BREAK!

      STAND UP AND FIGHT, MAN!

  • Michael_C_Scott

    At least he won’t be growing up to rape young white Welsh girls.

    The curious element here is that the kid’s mother was university educated.  Aren’t they supposed to be a bit less medieval?  Or at least bright enough to understand that if their kid didn’t have the memory to be a hafiz, he wasn’t ever going to make it, no matter how often she beat him.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FWMCMK6U5OWRHYIYJAF2TPFL2U thomas

      Good point Michael. This “university educated” muslim was one of those
      “moderate, assimilated muslims” the open-border louts like to ballyhoo
      about. This once again proves there is no such thing as a “moderate muslim.” They
      are all stone-aged misfits, not fit for western society.

      As cold as it may sound, she probably did us all a favor…..

    • The__Bobster

      Most of the muzzies who hijacked the jets on 9/11 were upper-middle class and college educated.

      • Michael_C_Scott

        So were all of the Polish officers executed by the NKVD in Katyn forest.

        • IstvanIN

           Not relevant.  The secret police always like to wipe out the elites in a country that is going to be put under dictatorship: military leaders, school teachers, business leaders, nobility, prominent politicians, anyone they think might be able to put together a resistance.  The Muslims are just nuts and love to kill anyone who doesn’t tow the line

    • Strider73

      At least he won’t be growing up to rape young white Welsh girls.

      Or become a suicide bomber.

      It’s the same reaction I have when a young black thug is killed, either by his intended victim or some other thug(s). Gratitude for all the crimes he will never commit.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/D7BX764AFX7YRN57CDP7IRUMNE Darryl

    I’m sorry. I just can’t get upset about this. I am fine with it. I must be a monster. Pray for me.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      Since I’m an agnostic, I’ll just have to make myself another Bloody Maria and drink it for you.  I hope that’s OK.

    • IstvanIN

       You are not a monster.  For us this should be no different than a male bear eating a cub.  Part of nature if a bit upsetting.  These are not our people, not our concern.  Our problems are too great to worry about what happens to one male child of some woman who wants you and I and ours dead.

      • FourFooted_Messiah

         Agreed, and I’ll drink to that for the three of you.  Cheers! 

        One less Muslim on the Mother Isles is always worth a toast.

        (And you can’t stop male bears from eating their own young, but we do try our best to make sure the bears stay in the woods where they belong.  Now it’s time to make sure Muslims stay where THEY belong.)

  • kjh64

    Yep, more “muslim logic”.  Not learning the Koran is bad but murdering your child is a-ok. Why oh why do we let these people into our countries?

    • Michael_C_Scott

      That’s an easy one: the liberal left thinks that diversity is good for children.  Yours and mine anyway, though almost never their own.

  • Howard_W_Campbell

    Well, this woman beat out “The Tossed Salad Man”.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPCM-cqsF-0
    (Chris Rock – Warning NSFW or kids)

    Has she saved Wales thousands of £’s by not having all of the crime and future breeding of this child? Sad ending, but they beat the tar out of the kids in the Madrassas. One of the things that kept Irshad Manji alive after being kicked out of a religious school was that she pretty much grew up in Canada.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      My daughter, Ariadne has never been spanked.  My ex-father was a vicious child-abuser and wife-beater, but the buck stops here.  I’d like to “spank” (dismember) him with an axe for eight or ten hours straight, but I legally can not unless he comes to my home.  I don’t even scold Ariadne.  I just don’t have it in me to hurt a child.

         

      • Howard_W_Campbell

        Well Michael. my kids will be in middle school soon. The worst they ever got was a very occasional swat on the backside (and the last time I did that was in first grade). Never with a belt, buckle, switch, etc. My wife said she received one whipping in her life and her reaction was such that her parents never did it again. My kids are pretty smart and usually pointing out the offense and talking to them tends to trigger suffucient guilt. My parents tended to overreact not so much at the offense, but because of how they felt. (This was my introduction to Political Correctness). Financially, were were always at the edge of a cliff and there was no slack in the system. I suspect that had a lot to do with the way my mother reacted to things.

        I can also remember the days (and I am close in age to you) when parents wouldn’t think twice about smacking a kid in the grocery store. I went to a high school that was 75% black and lived in proximity to a lot of negroes. I am not justifying what happened to thei child, but considering this womans fanatacism, it is not shocking. We had to memorize Bible verses for Sunday School and Vacation Bible School, but I never saw a kid getting smacked when the following happened.  Someone would recite John 3:16. “Billy, what was that verse? Mrs. Conway, that was John 16:3.” 

        John 16:3King James Version (KJV)
        “And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.”

        • Michael_C_Scott

          My ex-father was completely vile.  Our house was on a corner, and of course since Colorado gets a lot of snow, we had a lot of sidewalk to shovel.  His usual trick was coming home to say “Brian and Ed, go home; Mike get busy with the snow shovel”.

          Brian and Ed’s father used to come home and say “How ’bout you boys help me with the snow?”  I was always much happier putting in unpaid chores for my friends’ father.  With four of us, we always got it done quickly.

          The result was that I shoveled a lot more snow for Mr. Myers than I did for my ex-father.

          Why do I call it my ex-father?  The reason is that when my mother divorced that thing, my sister and I told her we wished we could divorce it as well.  I tried trusting it again, with disasterous results, but at least I discovered a way to divorce a parent. 

          Even the dog hated and feared my ex-father, and Gregor loved everyone else.  The first time it beat up my mother, Gregor ran back to the end of the house where my sister’s and my bedrooms were, and cried.  The second time, Gregor ran downstairs to where my sister and I were, I called the police, and I put my sister on the phone while I waited at the bottom of the stairs with the machete.

          Sadly, the cops did not administer gratuitous whuppings back in 1980 for wife-beating.  Also sadly, it decided not to come downstairs  after discovering someone was on the telephone, yelling “Who’s on the phone?” after it saw me waiting at the bottom of the stairs, Gregor beside me, every hair standing on end and teeth bared, on both of us.

          Since my release from federal prison, my ex-father has not returned to the United States to the best of my knowledge, nor to Colorado to my certain knowledge.
           
          This is what comes of beating up children.

        • Michael_C_Scott

          With almost 30 years of retrospect, I think the dog’s emotional abuse was worse than his wife beating or child abuse that caused it, because Gregor wasn’t going to grow up to be a human adult.  He was never more than a very affectionate animal who liked to sit on my lap to have his ears stroked or play games with my sister.

          Gregor stayed with my ex-father for a while, and cried whenever my sister and I left after a visit.  Gregor doesn’t have the luxury of being introspective about family cruelty; he been dead almost 30 years.

          • FourFooted_Messiah

             My cat was witness to me being brutalized many times.  I think it affected her long-term more than me; she seems to get very upset over mere raised voices (raised in excitement, or happiness, or high spirits) even though I and my current fellow have never even really argued over anything.  It took her a long time to have anything to do with him, too, I guess because she thought all male humans would be as mean as my ex-“it” was.

            I bet your dog cried when you left, and left him there.  I doubt he liked being around the guy any more than you did.

  • idissent

    Why am I not sad about this? 

    There will be one less muslim who was destined to rape a White girl!

    However, it does make me sick that they are allowed in to every White country on earth.

  • Michael_C_Scott

    Part of me is a bit sad about this retroactive abortion of a probable eventual rapist.  He never got the chance to decide for himself whether to be a decent guy.  Growing up as a Muslim the chances were a thousand to one against, but Yaseen deserved that chance that was stolen from him.

    I don’t understand how a child’s mother could pound him.  The only time my mother hit me I made no sound, and just looked at her while she did it.  Compared to being yanked off my feet and beaten and kicked  by my ex-father it was pure comedy.  I suggested she get her hairbrush to hit me with, and then she stopped and went off to cry, for which I felt terrible.

    Years later, she admitted under oath that she was delighted that my ex-father and the FBI were afraid of me.

    What things people do to children they do to themselves.
     

    • FourFooted_Messiah

       I don’t know how a mom could do that, either.  Besides the occasional swat on the butt when I was little, my mom only smacked in the face ONCE.  I was 13, and in retrospect, deserved it for being lippy.

      Compared to what I went through with kids at school, and what was to come later though, that was a joke.

      My ribs still ache sometimes in bad weather where the ex-it kicked me rather hard.  Never did check to see if they were cracked or something. I guess they must have been.

      • Michael_C_Scott

        I hope you didn’t afterward stay with someone who knocked you down and kicked you.

        I used to antagonise my ex-father when he was angry at my mother so he would beat me up and not her.

        He cheated me out of $625,000, of which I was willing to settle for 2/3, but he sent me to federal prison for three years instead.  He has a whole body case of cancer now, and I just cannot imagine how he got it, since he decided to cheat me long after I had ceased to have any access to his food, though I did tell him he deserved cancer about three years before he knew he had it, still well after I had access to his food.

        Carcinoid Syndrome is a terrible thing, especially in Britain after the age of 55, when you can’t get chemotherapy.

  • Lop_Eared_Galoot

    The mother may indeed have had high expectations due to her position relative to most of her culture and also any remaining guilt or feelings of exile/excoriation inherent to not fulfilling her expected role as a woman in that culture.

    “Let me be free to be rich and empowerd and I will raise a good little Muslim, honest!”

    Unfortunately,  many SWA’ian find themselves competing at top levels of Western management and industrial as well as medical and academic roles where the ‘but our jobs are too important to ever be outsourced’ (OBC) belief is still protectionistically enforced and utterly hostile towards outsiders.  That this is much more insular and effective because it is so readily hidden in the details of very proprietarily protected and accomplishment driven genius is without doubt as tasking and accreditation for certain key projects can make or break a career on an age group level plan for advancement.

    It is not at all uncommon for those who came here thinking they would be instantly successful ‘given equal opportunity in a jobs rich environment’, to find that they are just another smart but not exceptional individual (see top charts for Pakistani IQ for instance)-

    http://www.iqleague.com/group/pakistan

    And for which there are a lot of professional dead ends and cultural deadfalls set before them here, where average IQs in the West of 130-145 for top positions in government and services are not at all uncommon even in the ‘generalist’ executives.

    Now look at this-

    http://hypnosis.home.netcom.com/iq_vs_religiosity.htm

    And see that if you put the IQ relevance at 81-84 with Lynn, or even the later 95 (Pew) you get a 40-70% swing in the importance of ‘spiritual thought’ that, yes, does include these extremes of non-passive dogmatism.

    It is my belief that as the IQ lowers, the brain tends to listen more to what the amygdalic messenger is saying as a more constant understanding of racial and group identity meanings, empathically, and that eventually, this begins to color reason, at a societal meme level.

    Which is why so many backwards areas continue to not show serious social ethics improvement, even with massive aid.

    If we were to map out particularly violent areas of the world, down to regional substates or even tribal groups within say specific valleys, for Pakistan and Afghanistan in particular, you would likely be able to graph ‘political intransigence’ (barbarism, crime and xenophobia), not just the depth and peaks of the area IQ but through more general, genetic, associations.

    Indeed the likelihood that, even amongst brilliant individuals hot-spikes, like those of a thermal needle creating islands below an ocean, generate a lot of connection between the more rational mind and the reactionary animus.  Because, in a primitive social environment, there is likely to be a lot more recidivism (where brutal suspicion and introversion are rewarding for established cultures) in places where the boots of many armies have passed through and much cultural stress has turned over the social soil.

    I would expect there is a significant heritability effect going on, perhaps stronger than that of the primary cognitive abilities themselves which are, after all, only heritable if they are useful to an advancing society, not one in the throws of constant war (see WWI officer casualty statistics among those with unusually bright academic scores, prewar). 

    If I am correct, there will be _culturally_ groups of people with a lot more poke-thru interaction with these sublimated emotional simplifications of thought (god made me do it, devil made me want to…) which, especially in stressful conditions, may cause the brain to revert to this secondary, ‘old school’, view of how things work with surprisingly vicious ease.  Before returning to an outward semblance of public behavior acceptable to the newly adoptive culture (as that’s animal cunning too).

    We should not blame them for it as the person is not only being true to their inherent cultural genetic inheritance but also -acting outside- the moderating environment where such impulses are constrained by fear of equivalent death for a woman caught killing a male heir for instance.

    From our more rationally distant perspective, this is just genetics playing out in a more mechanical fashion as statistics have long since proven that, outside specialist thinkers like the Parsi and Ashkenazi where inbreeding is at work fixing the traits, the variance between personal best and all the rest is a skew roughly 50% split between parental IQ and population group IQ, expressed in their children.

    For these two reasons alone:

    1.  Conservation of our innate social docility as _heritable_ relaxed stress curve response.

    2.  The reality that those we import as Greek Slaves may not have children any cleverer than we already do but who will be rejected by our children as not to their aesthetic or moral tastes.

    It is truly best not to cream the population of other population groups, only to be ‘shocked’ with home area responses that do not fit in here.

    We are not interchangeable.  We are all unique.  Trying to bring business ethic as a furtherance of the raw engines of commerce is self-inflicted cannibalism.

  • Mainlander

    A sick and disturbing cult.