Romney vs. Obama: “If America Is to Endure as a Nation….”

Patrick J. Buchanan, VDARE, October 29, 2012

“Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to one united people—a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs, and who, by their joint counsels, arms, and efforts, fighting side by side throughout a long and bloody war, have nobly established general liberty and independence.”

So wrote John Jay in Federalist No. 2, wherein he describes Americans as a “band of brethren united to each other by the strongest ties.”

That “band of brethren united” no longer exists.

No longer are we “descended from the same ancestors.”

Indeed, as we are daily instructed, it is our “diversity”—our citizens can trace their ancestors to every member state of the United Nations—that “is our strength.” And this diversity makes us a stronger, better country than the America of Eisenhower and JFK.

No longer do we speak the same language. To tens of millions, Spanish is their language. Millions more do not use English in their homes. Nor are their children taught in English in the schools.

As for “professing the same religion,” the Christianity of Jay and the Founding Fathers has been purged from all public institutions. One in 5 Americans profess no religious faith. The mainline Protestant churches—the Episcopal, Methodist, Lutheran and Presbyterian—have been losing congregants for a half-century. Secularism is the religion of the elites. It alone is promulgated in public schools.

Are we attached to “the same principles of government”?

Half the nation believes it is the duty of government to feed, house, educate and medicate the population and endlessly extract from the well-to-do whatever is required to make everybody more equal.

Egalitarianism has triumphed over freedom. Hierarchy, the natural concomitant of freedom, is seen as undemocratic.

Are we similar “in our manners and customs”? Are we agreed uponwhat is good or even tolerable in music, literature, art?

Do we all seek to live by the same moral code? Abortion, a felony in the 1950s, is now a constitutional right. Homosexual marriage, an absurdity not long ago, is the civil rights cause du jour.

Dissent from the intolerant new orthodoxy and you are a bigot, a hater, a homophobe, an enemy of women’s rights.

Recent wars—Vietnam, Iraq—have seen us not “fighting side by side” but fighting side against side.

Racially, morally, politically, culturally, socially, the America of Jay and the Federalist Papers is ancient history. Less and less do we have in common. And to listen to cable TV is to realize that Americans do not even like one another. If America did not exist as a nation, would these 50 disparate states surrender their sovereignty and independence to enter such a union as the United States of 2012?

Nor are we unique in sensing that we are no longer one. Scotland,Catalonia and Flanders maneuver to break free of the nations that contain their peoples. All over the world, peoples are disaggregating along the lines of creed, culture, tribe and faith.

What has this to do with the election of 2012? Everything.

For if America is to endure as a nation, her peoples are going to need the freedom to live differently and the space to live apart, according to their irreconcilable beliefs. Yet should Barack Obamawin, the centralization of power and control will continue beyond the point of no return.

His replacement of any retiring Supreme Court justice with another judicial activist—a Sonia Sotomayor, an Elena Kagan—would negate a half-century of conservative labors and mean that abortion on demand—like slavery, a moral abomination to scores of millions—is forever law in all 50 states.

President Obama speaks now of a budget deal in which Democrats agree to $2.50 in spending cuts if the Republicans agree to $1 in tax increases. But given the character of his party—for whom Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare, food stamps, Head Start, earned income tax credits and Pell Grants are holy icons—any deal Obama cuts with Republicans in return for higher taxes will be like the deal Ronald Reagan eternally regretted.

The tax hikes become permanent; the budget cuts are never made.

In the first debate, Mitt Romney said that in crafting a budget that consumes a fourth of the economy, he would ask one question: “Is the program so critical that it’s worth borrowing money from China to pay for it?”

If a President Romney held to that rule, it would spell an end to any new wars of choice and all foreign aid and grants to global redistributionsts—such as the United Nations, the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank. It would entail a review of all U.S. alliances dating back to the Cold War, which have U.S. troops on every continent and in a hundred countries.

Obama offers more of the stalemate America has gone through for the past two years.

Romney alone offers a possibility of hope and change.

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  • youhavetherighttoremainsilent

    i just looked at intrade and it has obama about 60 to 40 over romney how come i believe the betting sites more than the polls. how com all the betting sites have obama 60 40 and the polls have the m about even. all i can say is ” yo momma”

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/7RORAJVG7LJJZECDJIILHJBE7U So CAL Snowman

      All the betting sites also had the Tigers over the Giants in the world series

    • IKantunderstand

      You should exercise your right.

      • youhavetherighttoremainsilent

         i just looked at intrade and it has obama about 60 to 40 over romney how
        come i believe the betting sites more than the polls. how com all the
        betting sites have obama 60 40 and the polls have the m about even. all i
        can say is ” yo momma”

      • youhavetherighttoremainsilent

         you cant answer the question because like your idiot name says you cant understand

        • 5n4k33y35

          Your question was: “how come i believe the betting sites more than the polls?”

          Nobody but you can explain why you believe betting websites over the polls.

    • tickyul

      Yup, and he is going to get a bump from this storm…..the manly leader and all……..this will put Mr Hussein over the top.

    • JDInSanDiego

      How come you don’t know how to use a question mark?  Or a period?  Or a shift key (you know, the one that makes the letters big)?  Would that be yo momma’s influence?

      • IKantunderstand

        Finally looking at comments to my comments. Thanks for saying what I was getting ready to say. (Loved the shift key reference!)

  • GrahamChapmanArmy

    Nope.  Protest vote for Ron Paul is the only way. Romney comes from people who inbreed,  and who feel that there are two Jesus Christs. He should not even be allowed to hold
    scissors much less run the USA. We should not be fighting and funding Israel’s war and
    land claims in the middle east but Romney will go to war with Iran, it is not debatable and then that’s it; the world will be on the path to destruction. It’s in Romney’s religion that they stand with Israel without any conditions which is scary to say the least. Romney is not a Christian, with basic US Christian values and tolerance, he’s from a backwards  religion that has encourages inbreeding and polygamy. His father was born in Mexico so his
    granddad could have multiple wives and inbred children.  His beliefs border on sci fi which in part defers to the AIPAC occupational government that Israel is trying to force the USA into. Romney will essentially fund Israel worse than any president has in the past-he’s said he’ll go to war with Iran and he will. I agree that Israel has the right to exist but why should they be mean more to the USA than other democracies? Why are we their bulldog?
    The Israel thing should be decisive in this election not the economy-you can’t take back Jihad once it destroys lives in the west and it will destroy more if we don’t get out.
    RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT!

    • The__Bobster

      Was it 4:20 in your time zone when you posted this screed?

      • The Worlds Scapegoat

         4:20 is Hitlers Birthday.

    • http://www.facebook.com/franklin.ward.10 Franklin Ward

      Yes, by all means vote for Paul, a man who has no chance of winning, and re-elect Obama!  Wise up.

      • GentlemanPugilist

        I think the only way white Americans will wake up is when things get really bad, and I think four more years of Obama may just be enough to do that. If the country simply limps on – and especially if Romey oversees more economic adversity, which he would do – then people will continue to tolerate the Fed, the wars, the affirmative action, the political correctness and the illegal immigration. 

      • TeutonicKnight67

         I’m voting for the White Guy. End of story!

      • The Worlds Scapegoat

        So in order for this country to survive a loser like Romney has to win, and a winner like Ron Paul has to lose.

      • Net_Drifter

        I agree. Make certain of failure to …somehow win. Great logic. 

    • IstvanIN

      He may not be our savior by any means but my goodness he isn’t anything you just wrote. Well, except the Israel thing, and they all bow to Israel.

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

       Now the reverse of the 1992 election is occurring.  Obama will win because of a draw of conservatives away from the Rep ticket.  Get ready for four more years.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JZ5HL6SGXRWK24JHDOPZ7FINS4 Zimriel

         Romney will slow the decline, not stop it. With Romney you will get maybe eight more years before collapse. (With Obama you get four, I agree.)

        • Sherman_McCoy

          I agree.  The best I can hope from Romney is that he slows the confiscation of my IRA long enough for me to withdraw it without penalties.

          Oh, and Eric “My People” Holder will no longer be legitimizing the violation of white people’s rights.

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

           I have a concept for you and everyone regarding the collapse of … whatever you choose; it has been going on for a while.  It is natural for us to look from where we stand forward, but if one really stands back and views the past century, I mean from WW1 forward, it is possible to mark the collapse of civilization on a historical chart with perhaps several lines specific for things like national integrity, in demographics, ethics, crime, yes and even moral values and the like (rare to hear from me as a non-believer, but I am not against “values” as long as they aren’t really a front for politically driven religious control).  But a similar chart could also be made for natural history, such as the overall quality of natural systems such as air pollution, ocean and waterway pollution, etc., all the things that political conservatives are usually against worrying about or simply ignore figuring “God” will take care of things eventually.

          In this way, we miss the bigger picture.  The fact is, the collapse has been going on and is gaining momentum.  One presidential election won’t trigger a collapse just because of that individual’s election.  IMHO, both parties have contributed in their own specialties, the overall collapse.  The only thing that amazes me is how quickly things long predicted are happening. 

          Even so, one must try to avoid being reactionary.  It is important to not become fixed on one aspect of the thing or allow paranoia to rule your thoughts or actions (especially actions).  Be prepared, but patient observation is the most important thing.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SVXVW3GTZ2ES4KXN6WW3WMI4KI Luca

      Reality and logic check. Like it or not when you vote for Ron Paul you get Obama. I hated the thought of  McCain 4 years ago but knew that any other vote would be for Obama. You have to understand the simple math of the equation. Right now it is impossible to gwt Ron Paul in the White House. If you vote Romney, at least you get rid of Obama. Sometimes the ends justify the means.

    • 5n4k33y35

      In principle, I support Libertarians. But the only way for a third party to advance is to have two consecutive one term presidents. Obama is first. 

      • JohnEngelman

        The current Libertarian Party (US) Platform states that Libertarians are prepared to welcome refugees, and the LP works against discriminatory policies. In addition it states that a free market requires the free movement of both capital and labor across borders…
         
        Older Libertarian Party (US) Platform stances were more pro-open borders. The 2004 Platform called for “the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally.”
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_perspectives_on_immigration      
         
        http://www.lp.org/issues/immigration     

        • http://www.facebook.com/tardola.anthony Tardola Anthony

          To Mr. Engelman: That’s all the reason why Americans of all races,creeds, plus shapes/sizes should support the Libertarians. Farewell!!

          • Puggg

            You made a major mistake.  You implied that the Libertarian Party will get more than one vote, by using plural nouns in your post.

            Sorry, I had to get the punch in before the poster and OD writer Jack Ryan did.

    • Tim_in_Indiana

      Yeah, Romney’s religion is weird, but is it any weirder than Obama’s (Islam)? By the way, Ron Paul’s candidacy is history.

    • The Worlds Scapegoat

      I have worked with and for Mormons. I would not trust them – ever. At least I know the black man is out to kill me. I have already filled out my absenty ballot and sent it in. I didn’t pick Romney. I also didn’t pick the current Commander and Chimp.

      • Hatelibs

        ” I didn’t pick Romney. I also didn’t pick the current Commander and Chimp.”

        Then you helped pick the “current commander in chimp.” by default.

        You sure showed them…. dumb@ss.

    • http://www.facebook.com/tardola.anthony Tardola Anthony

      To GrahamChapmanArmy:
      Good article with true description of “Romneystein’s” character. However, the best man to vote for is Gary Johnson-Libertarian. Thanks!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYKCW323HPUTQOUGE5WZPNXJOU John

    Looks like Pat is stunting hard for the Mormon, to help his beloved sister Bay, a Mormon convert who has deep connections to the LDS church.

    • http://www.facebook.com/franklin.ward.10 Franklin Ward

      Pat has always been a conservative.  To think that he supports Romney because his sister is Mormon strains belief.  Pat, like most Republicans, knows how dangerous another four years would be with Obama.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYKCW323HPUTQOUGE5WZPNXJOU John

        Unless you look at foreign-policy, in which the chance of getting into World War III for Israel is markedly greater under Romney.    That’s what I call “danger”.

        • TeutonicKnight67

           We’re already in WWIII except nobody realizes it yet. Moslems will never rest until they rest in peace. Their filthy command manual (“holy” book) demands eternal conflict.

          • Sherman_McCoy

            Which would have nothing whatsoever to do with us if we were disengaged from the Middle East and did not allow immigration from those pest holes.

          • The Worlds Scapegoat

            There is another fanatical religious group in that region that believes only they are human and the rest of use are cattle. They have murdered over 100 million white people since the late 1800’s. They have a history of being a far greater threat to whites than any camel jockey.

    • robinbishop34

      So that’s what you took from the article?

    • Sherman_McCoy

      I think the word you were looking for was “stumping.”  And I don’t think you are right about that, either.  

      Whatever, only Ron Paul could have righted this ship of state, and those who think that Romney is going to save us are just as deluded as those who believe in the Obamessiah.

      I think Pat is just accepting the lesser of two evils.

  • dhs

    Abortion, a felony in the 1950s, is now a constitutional right. ..

    There is a major omission.  It was the Federal judiciary that imposed this on the American people, not  state legislatures.  There is nothing in the written constitution about abortion;  the constitution does state that matters such as abortion are matters for state governments to act upon.

    The Federal judiciary  having  power over aborting fetuses, is an abortion of democracy.

     

    • Sherman_McCoy

      If liberals and blacks want to abort their progeny, we should have ever fewer of them to torment us.

    • JohnEngelman

      The Supreme Court has too much power. 

  • Golden Rule Macongo Jed

    Buchanan is too smart to believe that America can still survive as a nation.  He’s just selling momentum of a slower decline under Romney.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/D7BX764AFX7YRN57CDP7IRUMNE Darryl

    What a great man, John Jay. The Founders were just amazing.

    • Sherman_McCoy

      They certainly stood head and shoulders intellectually above the current crop of politicians.  That said, I think that the Anti-Federalists’writings against the ratification of the US Constitution were better.

  • Francis Galton

    To my chagrin, I see the results of this sort of divisiveness and insanity everyday.  Allow me to bore you with my workplace’s  demographics and regale you with some anecdotes:

    78 people:

    46 blacks
    17 Whites (my people!)
    4 Filipinos
    4 Indians (dot)
    2 Puerto Ricans
    2 other Hispanics
    1 Native-American/White mix
    1 Chinese/White/black hybrid (who incidentally just got fired today)
    1 Middle Eastern (?) person

    To say I work at the Unofficial Obama Headquarters would be an understatement.  Most of them have Romney Derangement Syndrome, including some of the Whites.  I only know of one person who’s voting for Romney (a White woman), and I have the funny feeling that despite her massive exposure to diversity everyday, she would flip out if she knew my beliefs about race.

    One of the Obama supporters, who’s 48-years-old, didn’t know what the Electoral College was; this 23-year-old had to explain it to her (the Native-American/White person).  This same person also believes blacks should get reparations for slavery, and she happens to have a son who’s a convicted cocaine dealer (black, as are her other sons.)

    Another Obama supporter, a White lesbian, thinks that if Romney gets elected, her “marriage” (in VA?) will be nullified.  She never misses an opportunity to mention something about her “wife” (with an emphasis on WIFE.) 

    Most of the rest just seem to have a general disdain for Romney, without being able to articulate why.  The best they can come up with is that he’s “for the rich,” or some other DNC platitude with no substance behind it.

    Yes, I keep a safe emotional distance from nearly all of my co-workers.  And, yes, it is quite depressing to be an educated, pro-White, conservative-leaning person in this type of environment (don’t ask….)

    But, there’s good news:

    I have a funny feeling that my workday on Nov. 7th will be more interesting than usual….

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

       I’d never last there.  I guess I’m just too old to deal with it up that close anymore.

    • JohnEngelman

      I can articulate my “general disdain for Romney.” He has no credible plan to reduce unemployment and the budget deficit. Tax cuts for the rich will do neither. 
       
      I don’t even think he will reduce immigration. More immigrants mean higher prices, lower wages, and more profits. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NQHEAYZCMBOERHG2VZRDQ3YUSQ Felix

      From the demographic breakdown of your workplace I’d have said you manage a fast food franchise or work at the DMV. But, you write too well, so it can’t be either of those two places.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FWMCMK6U5OWRHYIYJAF2TPFL2U thomas

      “Chinese/White/black hybrid (who incidentally just got fired today).”

      Well at least something positive happened today. We take out victories where we find them…

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

    Strange bedfellows, Pat Buchanan, Bob Dylan, and me.

    • 5n4k33y35

      “Bedfellows” now there’s a quaint old term for fags. It’s always funny to read in the political context, but I don’t think either one of them would consider themselves bedfellows.

      (Moderator, please don’t censor this instance of the word “fag”. The word is used for meta-discussion of the word and it’s meaning and use. Also, it ought to be tolerated in the case it is used for accuracy, not insult.)

      • IstvanIN

         You just hate “fags” and love to bring it up wherever you can.  Sort of like the anti-gay version of John Chinamen and his love of Orientals.

        • TeutonicKnight67

           He certainly has a bad case of Yellow Fever doesn’t he?

          • JohnEngelman

            For the past twenty years I have studied race differences in brain size, intelligence, sexuality, personality, growth rate, life span, crime, and family stability. On all of these traits, Orientals fall at one end of the spectrum.
                              
            – Professor J. Philippe Rushton, from “RACE, EVOLUTION,  AND BEHAVIOR”
            http://www.charlesdarwinresearch.org/Race_Evolution_Behavior.pdf     
                                  
            Professor Rushton spoke at six American Renaissance conferences. “The end of the spectrum” “Orientals fall at” is the good end. 

          • MissBonnie123

            I guess you are right, John. The Orientals are smart enough to know that White people know how to create better countries than they do. That’s why they prefer to be educated, work, and live in America instead of in their own countries.

          • JohnEngelman

            MissBonnie123,
             
            Students in South Korea and Japan out perform students in the United States.
             
            http://siteselection.com/ssinsider/snapshot/sf011210.htm 
             
            Taiwan and Singapore are not listed, but  I am confident that students there also perform better on the average than American students. I suspect that in China students  perform better as well.
             
            All of these countries have lower crime rates than the United States. 

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate      

          • 5n4k33y35

            Get a room guys.

        • 5n4k33y35

          I do not hate fags. I resent the belligerent politics of the modern fags. They’re very obnoxious. They throw their lot in with the feminists. They censor our language.

          Ideally, fags just live their lives and freely associate without always making a big scene about the fact that they are indeed fags.

          How about a dignified fag? First of all, have a personality and don’t constantly remind everyone that you’re a fag. Keep your private life private. Don’t try to turn the public square into your bedroom with kiss-ins, and pride parades, gyrating on parade floats while wearing speedos. Don’t police the language. Don’t claim to be a special, oppressed class. Don’t have riots in NYC. Admit it, the vast majority of modern fags have no dignity.

          I don’t hate fags. I can admire individual fags for their artistry, achievements, and intellect. How about Alan Turing? A dignified fag. (I’ve read that the story of his persecution has been greatly exaggerated by the fag lobby).

          How about a great classical musician who was a fag? There must be some notable ones, whose music we all enjoy. And all the better that I can’t even think of one off hand, because he’s known for his compositions, not his sexual orientation. That’s called dignity.

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

     One thing about Mormons I’ve always known; they are good at making money.  It’s just one of the traits they copied from the Jews.  Is it bad to make money?  No?  But how you do it  and what you effect as you do IS important.

  • GentlemanPugilist

    The LDS Church is fine by me. Whilst I don’t believe in Joseph Smith’s prophecies, the golden plates and the rest of the Mormon teachings, I think the actual lifestyle it endorses is pretty healthy. Contemporary society’s awash with drugs, alcohol, pornography and general sleaze, so perhaps Joseph was onto something after all.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JZ5HL6SGXRWK24JHDOPZ7FINS4 Zimriel

       Polygamy counts as “general sleaze” to me

      • IstvanIN

         Good golly, the LDS Church gave that up a long time ago.  You certainly can’t hold Romney accountable for a few break away Mormons.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYKCW323HPUTQOUGE5WZPNXJOU John

        I’ve always accounted polygamy as a pretty normal desire, and have never been shocked by it, nor  would I call it sleazy.   It’s not against natural law.  Nevertheless monogamy is a key part of Christianity, a part  that neither Jews nor Mormons have felt obliged, of course, to embrace.

        It was tolerated in the Old Testament by Moses because of the “hardness of the hearts” of the Jews.  And then it was banned by Jesus directly, seemingly for two reasons:
        1)  As the “new Adam”, to get humankind back to the Adam and Eve ideal
        2)  So that he could be the mystical groom of the church that he was about to found  and marriage, rather than a brothel, as a metaphor for love/obedience between wife/husband.

        In America, as a Christian country, it needed to be banned,  and Mormons wanting  libertarianism in that regard was a nonstarter.  Polygamy could be kept under control by the Mormon elders, and tightly controlled Mormon society (or by the Sanhedrin in Jewish society), but in frontier America it would’ve been disaster.  Can you imagine every guy that walks into town potentially wanting your wife for his harem?  It makes every man a potential enemy, and sews deep seeds of distrust.

        If I understand correctly, the Jews wisely dropped it in the Middle Ages as they were trying to blend in, in Europe.

  • IstvanIN

     We are not a “peoples” any more.  Probably haven’t been since the great wave of southern/eastern European immigration of the 1890/1900s.  Certainly not now.  Our founding fathers were a peoples of common language, culture, religion and race.  As time goes on we become more and more just lines on a map, and since we do not protect those lines, not even that.

    • JohnEngelman

      After “the great wave of southern/eastern European immigration of the 1890/1900s” the United States dominated the world for a century. 

      • Buttman

        and to what benefit? 

  • Puggg

    I’m not going to argue this point with anyone, and we really shouldn’t be arguing it with each other, because it’s pointless.

    We’ll either vote for Romney because he’s white and the other guy is black, or we’ll vote for neither one because they’re too much alike on too many important issues.

    Either way, this issue isn’t worth us tearing each other apart when we’re going to need each other no matter who wins.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/MXTYFQZUWU2C7Q6WAHYPNNHCNU David Brims

     ”  Agenda, Grinding America Down ”

    Award winning documentary about the Frankfurt School, Cultural Marxism, Progressives , etc etc.

    vimeo.com/52009124

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYKCW323HPUTQOUGE5WZPNXJOU John

      Looks good.  Thanks for the link.  I’ll have to get back to it.

    • robinbishop34

      Good video. It gives a good fundamental primer into all the moving parts that are working to destroy the West. This would be a good primer for those who are getting nervous about what’s going on around them but still ignorant of the mechanics behind it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JZ5HL6SGXRWK24JHDOPZ7FINS4 Zimriel

    Imagining that Romney, who ruled as a moderate Democrat in Massachusetts, will reverse our course is simple cloudcuckooland.

    The way to reverse course is to vote for Republicans at the STATE level – and to boycott the federal elections. Send a poisoned chalice to Washington, DC. Allow Obama his second term, if the non-reactionaries are leaning that way; but either way, tell the ruling oligarchs that they do not have the support of the people.

  • 5n4k33y35

    It may be that this election is more important than it appears. Four years is not such a long time, but at a pivotal moment in history, it could have profound consequences.

    Pat Buchanan is wise and he may be onto something with his intentions, regardless of the rhetoric he uses. I absolutely oppose Mitt Romney’s geopolitical views, but I consider them secondary to the stark choice on policies which openly discriminate against males and whites.

    It may be our last opportunity to throw off the yoke of explicitly anti-white, social engineering, or else forever be subjected to such policies, to be treated as a lower caste because of our race. I believe it is more fundamental than any other issue to rebuke the Democrat agenda and Obama on this issue alone.

    • IstvanIN

       The Demoncrats and Obama walk in lock step.  It is possible to get Republicans to occasionally stand up to a Republican president.

    • JohnEngelman

      The The Guantanamo Bay detention camp was set up in 2002 by President Bush. Drone strikes began in Pakistan in 2004. Don’t you think they would have continued if John McCain had been elected? Don’t you think  they will be continued if Mitt Romney is elected? 

      • 5n4k33y35

        Romney has clearly stated his intentions to follow in Bush and Obama’s footsteps. Obviously we will have to rebuke Romney as well. It would far easier to impeach a white president than the first black president. Failing that, he will be a one term president. 

  • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

    “…none of them (GOP presidents) did ANYTHING [about abortion].

    “Nonsense.  The ignorance displayed above is astonishing. With notable exceptions — Souter, for example — the GOP nominated Supreme Court judges as different from Democratic appointees as night is to day.  Remember nominee Judge Robert Bork?  From wikipedia:

    “To pro-choice legal groups, Bork’s originalist views and his belief that the Constitution does not contain a general “right to privacy” were viewed as a clear signal that, should he become a Justice on the Supreme Court, he would vote to reverse the Court’s 1973 decision in Roe v. Wade.”

    • JohnEngelman

      Ronald Reagan signed an abortion law as Governor of California. If he had wanted to, he could have overturned Roe v. Wade. Come on, folks. He was our first divorced president. He seldom went to church. 

  • tickyul

    I worry about the Republirat-Phonycons….they seem to be very hungry for another war. And the Demorats seem to go along with them…..just so they can scream very loud about ILLEGAL WARS and such.

    No good choices.

  • tickyul

    Exactly, this storm bump will put Mr Hussein over the top.

    • RileyDeWiley

       The looters have not yet spoken. And they will be black.

  • APaige

    Did the gospel of diversity begin with the 1965 Immigration change? Does anyone know of a history of diversity? “Nations are built on unity” had to be the thinking before WWII? Thanks in advance to anyone who can point the way.

    • IstvanIN

       Wilson believed in the self-determination of ethnic groups, didn’t he?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYKCW323HPUTQOUGE5WZPNXJOU John

    Yes, exactly. Well said!

    And wouldn’t Romney, not all that long ago, be referred to as a “Rockefeller Republican”?    It’s only in comparison to Barack Obama that he’s able to get away with fancying himself as the second coming of Ronald Reagan.

    I’m voting for Romney, but I’m REAAAAL quiet about it.

    • TeutonicKnight67

       …and I’m voting for the WHITE man. Loudly!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYKCW323HPUTQOUGE5WZPNXJOU John

      Ijnjnj

  • IstvanIN

    I voted for Pat in 2000, donated to all three of his presidential runs.  I think 2000 was the last year old America could be changed, although even then it would have taken a determined President who wouldn’t give in the democrats and rhinos.  A President who could articulate his vision and support his opinions.  A man who wouldn’t give in to international pressure, or internal pressures for that matter.  Was Pat that man?  We shall never know. 

    I suppose Pat comes from the “hope springs eternal” school.  I fear it is too late.  It is time for separation.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYKCW323HPUTQOUGE5WZPNXJOU John

      2000.. ahhhhh yes, it was all set up to be a third way.    I heard even that Jimmy Hoffa Junior was set to be his running mate.   But then the you-know-hews got to Ross Perot through his commercial interests,  and got Ross’s man Russ Verney to get carnival sideshow acts , Jesse Ventura , John Hagelin  and Donald Trump involved.     A serious man like Pat Buchanan just couldn’t complete with buffoons.  you’re right, it was the last chance to turn the country around.    Pat had 16% in one poll, right out of the gate, but then it went down steadily from then on.

    • JohnEngelman

      In 2000 George W. Bush was elected president. Republicans retained majorities in both houses of Congress. Republicans maintained those majorities until 2007. Was “old America” preserved?
                            
      Where are you going to separate to? The most conservative parts of the United States have the largest blacks populations. What are you going to do with all those blacks? Deport them? Gas them? Machine gun them into open graves? 

      • 5n4k33y35

        Give ‘em the stink eye.

      • IstvanIN

         Our first Mexican President, G.W. Bush, was in no way a Pat Buchanan, and most Republicans are Rhinos.  His win was probably a bigger loss than a Gore win would have been, I don’t think Gore would have invaded Iraq, if nothing else.

        I didn’t imply separation would be neat and easy, it would be ugly but neccessary.

        • JohnEngelman

          If the U.S. economy continues to stagnate, and particularly if it begins a long decline, I think the division of the United States into two or more countries is a real possibility. It will be like the fall of the Soviet Union, only violent. There are too many guns in this country, and too many groups of Americans who hate each other. 
                                       
          The division of the United States will accelerate the economic decline, just as the fall of the Soviet Union accelerated the economic decline of Russia. Currently Russia has the highest murder rate of any white majority country.
                     
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate 
                 
          In the United States the fall of the Soviet Union was seen as the failure of socialism. In the world the fall of the United States will be seen as the failure of capitalism. The world will notice that the economies of Scandinavia and Communist China are doing well. 

        • Beloved Comrade

          I don’t think Gore would have invaded Iraq, if nothing else.

          This is precisely why Gore lost.  

          I said months ago that whoever agreed to invade/attack Iran will win the election.  Romney has already agreed, I suspect Zerobama too but told his masters to wait until after the election to announce it.

    • jeffaral

      Glad to know you voted for a conservative black vice-president.    Pat Buchanan is the guy, isn’t he???!!!!

  • TeutonicKnight67

    Wait a second! You can.t compare 200 years of whiteness with the last four years of brachiated locomotion. Mistakes have been made, certainly, but humans make mistakes. One of the biggest was 2008 when we elevated an unqualified, un-evolved North American Pavement Simian to our highest ranking power and expected it to perform BETTER than 200 years of whites!

  • JohnEngelman

    I cannot find the polls on the internet, but according to a column by Michael Medved, in 1969 a Gallup poll indicated that most Americans thought sex outside of marriage was morally wrong. Richard Nixon had just been inaugurated. In 1974, when President Nixon was still in office another Gallup poll indicated that most Americans thought sex outside of marriage was acceptable.
     
    The abortion rate was higher under Ronald Reagan than Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton.
     
    http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/graphusabrate.html 
     
    I even read somewhere that sexual activity among teenagers declined during the administration of Bill Clinton. The rate of violent crime did begin to decline during his administration. The decline has continued during the administration of Barack Obama.
     
    http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm
     
    Pat Buchanan is blaming the Democrats for social changes that have had their own momentum. 
     
    The only thing we can be sure of is that if Mitt Romney is elected taxes for the rich will decline. 
            
    We should have learned during the administrations of Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush that tax cuts for the rich do not lead to jobs for the unemployed. They increase the national debt. There was more job creation per year when Jimmy Carter was president than when Ronald Reagan was president. The top tax rate was lower when Ronald Reagan was president. There was much more job creation per year when Bill Clinton was president than when George W. Bush was president. The top tax rate was higher when Bill Clinton was president. 
     
    http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/     
       
    http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=213    

  • JohnEngelman

    Diversity is not our strength. It is a challenge that needs to be managed. 

    • Beloved Comrade

      The only way to manage diversity is through a strong-arm government.  What examples are there of multicultural societies living in peace, love and harmony?  NONE.

      All conflicts devolve along racial or ethnic lines, especially when resources become scarce.

  • Sherman_McCoy

    Unless he pushes for revocation of our free trade agreements, puts heavy tariffs on outsourced overseas labor, and gets rid of the Fed, we are most certainly NOT going to have a healthy economy.

  • JohnEngelman

    The United States is not collapsing. It is changing.
          
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCWdCKPtnYE    
         
    Nevertheless, the future belongs to China.
         
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94T-NC3uv3o      

    • Net_Drifter

      Hopefully, Russia, India, and Japan together can make sure China doesn’t have the future it wants; which will be when it attempts to grab most of Asia that supposedly belongs to it ‘historically’. 

  • Sherman_McCoy

    I would say that those of us who do not want to vote for Romney solely because he is a Mormon are foolish.

  • JohnEngelman

    The leaders of the Republican Party want to preserve the Roe v. Wade decision. More than any single event that lead to the creation of the religious right. Before the advent of the religious right many Evangelicals voted Democrat. Many others did not vote, and waited passively for the second coming of Christ.
            
    Also, wealth is an aphrodisiac. Many rich Republican men take advantage of that fact. Abortions cost less than paternity suits. 

  • elitist

    you would have to drink a bathtub of LSD – and then chop off your head – to believe that Romney is on the side of white, working class and middle class Americans.

    He is a solid member of the billionaires club, of the oligarchy that brought us the political consensus that binds Obama and Bush and all the others together.

    He is a bankster, a corruptocrat.

    Look behind the curtain: the duopoly is an OLIGARCHY.

  • The Worlds Scapegoat

    Remember blacks vote only for blacks and care nothing about the content of the candidates character. Now as whites, we are much smarter. We will vote for Romney because he is the only white guy that has a chance against the black guy.

    • jeffaral

      Have you ever heard Romney standing for Whites?   

    • elitist

      like the pot calling the kettle….BLACK!

      Romney’s sole qualification for the highest office:

      not Obama.

  • Athling

    Another superb piece from Buchanan. So much for America being founded on diversity. A ridiculous and patently false assertion repeatedly uttered by whites who lack understanding and by non-whites who seek to profit from white racial dissolution.

  • JohnEngelman

    A new nationwide study (pdf) of anonymised credit-card receipts from a major online adult entertainment provider finds little variation in consumption between states.
            
    “When it comes to adult entertainment, it seems people are more the same than different,” says Benjamin Edelman at Harvard Business School. 
            
    However, there are some trends to be seen in the data. Those states that do consume the most porn tend to be more conservative and religious than states with lower levels of consumption, the study finds. 
            
    “Some of the people who are most outraged turn out to be consumers of the very things they claimed to be outraged by,” Edelman says…
              
    The biggest consumer, Utah, averaged 5.47 adult content subscriptions per 1000 home broadband users…
               
    Eight of the top 10 pornography consuming states gave their electoral votes to John McCain in last year’s presidential election…While six out of the lowest 10 favored Barack Obama. 
    http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16680-porn-in-the-usa-conservatives-are-biggest-consumers.html       

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYKCW323HPUTQOUGE5WZPNXJOU John

      Thats among people who look at porn and PAY for it.  Most use free bit torrents, megaupload, rapidshare … and if they get caught by their ISP they will be outed with a public federal lawsuit … not a bad risk to an Obama supporter but a horrible consequence for a conservative family man.  Plus conservatives are more likely to be ethical and not cheat a business out of its due.

      No, conservatives, who believe there are consequences for these things, arent eating more porn than liberals who believe there are no consequences for moral choices and that God is a Santa Claus fable.

  • http://www.awpn.net/ Celestial Time

    Whining about religion in schools, abortion, gay marriage, and pining for the return of an old “intolerant orthodoxy” to replace the new one. He then has the audacity to imply that another four years of Obama will take America past the point-of-no-return, but that the ultra-conformist and establishment lackey, Romney, will give us a chance to turn it all around. What America does Buchanan live in where he thinks the point of no return hasn’t already been eclipsed?

    I understand that most of the “conservative thinkers” haven’t made it to the 21st century yet, but there should be no excuse for a sane man not understanding how attaching yourself to the trivial and divisive issues does nothing but strengthen those who fight you on the major issues. Nailing yourself to a cross doesn’t make you a martyr or a beacon of hope and change; it simply makes you static and predictable. That’s exactly what Republicans are—PREDICTABLE.

    This is why Republicans fail, and why White America hasn’t gained a single thing with them in office. The absolute best they can ever achieve is to continue the status quo.

  • IstvanIN

    Reading through these comments, and other articles over time, leaves me puzzled.  Is pornography really that big of an industry?  How many dirty pictues or movies can a person look at?  There is so much smut on regular TV these days I can not imagine how much more trash people really need.  I get teased by buddies for being a prude, and my family knows to keep it clean around me, but I must really be behind the times when it comes to the modern world.

    • Periapsis

      Yes, it is a huge industry, with many billions a year going to hostile racial and religious aliens who exploit our young women and men and use porn as a weapon against our race. At least half the internet is porn, much of it ILLEGAL to even view here in the U.S.

  • bluegrass91

     Precisely: its over, its done.  We need to move on.

    America may exist in terms of its borders but everything that determines a Nation: kinship of blood and spirit, of ancestry, of common culture and language has been deconstructed beyond repair.

    America is rapidly going to be seen as nothing more than a mere construction on a map. It is a designated landscape: the geography of a future battlefield. 

    We are no longer Americans, we are no longer White Americans, we are Whites IN America.

    I’d recommend everyone become familiar with the fledgeling state of Lebanon to see the future.

    Our hostile elites dreamed of sacrificing Europeans peoples to achieve some global socialist utopia populated by mocha-skinned Hipsters, but that vision is collapsing, rapidly. 

    There’s just no money for it (http://www.vdare.com/articles/the-virtual-recovery).  They imported all these tribes to mix into some grand global tribe, but the welfare money to bribe them to join this grand vision is drying and never coming back.

    Diversity is going to rapidly start cannibalizing itself.  The Asian-Black-Hispanic democratic alliance was a short term phenomenon developed to destroy white hegemony.

    The faster we wake up to this now the better our prospects will be.  America is a sinking ship and our lifeboat is Pro-White ideology.

    • Net_Drifter

      Yes, we are already Brazil North. Now we have to grab up as much as we can for ourselves.

  • jeffaral

    If Pat Buchanan thinks Romney is better than Obongo, he hasn’t got a clue of what is going on.   Sad really!

  • jeffaral

    Morm0ns are crazy for money.    If elected, Romney and his Wall Street ilk will get even richer.   Good for them!

  • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

    1.  I’m filling a circle next to the name Romney because he’s white, and Obama is black.  That’s the only real reason.  

    2.  PJB I think is engaging in Polyanna thinking about how “good” a Romney Presidency would be, and I think he knows it.  I think PJB wanted to write a column saying what I just said, but knew he had to write some incoherent jibberish (by his standards) because any column of his that sounded too racial (again, by his standards) wouldn’t be published.

    3.  After this election, we seriously need a conversation about how the Presidency has gotten too powerful.  The Founders thought of the President as someone who would, true to the office’s name, merely preside.  They no way wanted it to become the battering ram for psychopaths, sociopaths and megalomaniacs who scream “hope and change” to “fundamentally alter” society.  Because so many Presidents in their first term devote most of their actions merely to winning a second term, we need a “one and done” rule.  Not only that, we need to seriously limit the power of the President, which means no executive orders, no judicial appointments (we need a better way to select judges), far more limited control of the military (Commander-in-Chief status should be shared with Congress, maybe), restricted pardon power (pardons resulting in a convict getting out of prison should be approved by Congress), the legislative verve should be centered in Congress and not the White House, among other things.

    If the Presidency is one term limited and neutered to the extent I want it to be, who would want to be President?  The answer to that is the kind of people the Founders wanted, mere temporary administrators.  That’s the point of why we need to do this, to deter “hopeychangers” from seeking the office.  American government would lean toward the parliamentary in practice, meaning that anyone who really wants to make a difference will do it from Congress, but they will be only one of 100 or 435 depending on their body.  (Too, a 435-member House is too small considering how much more powerful I want it to become.  I have my own separate ideas about that, complete with a downloadable spreadsheet (oh boy, fun fun fun), but that’s too complicated for this comment.  http://countenance.wordpress.com/2010/12/23/median-ten/)

    4.  Presidential campaigns are getting too long and too expensive.  While Citizens United was the right SCOTUS decision from a Constitutional standpoint, it’s obvious that things can’t keep going like this.  I think the ideal paradigm is mandatory public funding hooked to a much later start to the primary and caucus season, and with the advent of YouTube, there is no reason for any candidate to do television buys any longer, which is the big money pit of a major political candidate.

    5.  The Bill of Rights is too short.  It needs to be way longer and have many more “thou shalt nots.”

    6.  Except for his ideology, the person of Willard Mitt Romney is what the Founders thought of as an ideal President from a personality and temperament standpoint.  Someone like Obama would have given them nightmares.

    • lights mckay

      In reponse to 3: two non-consecutive six year terms MAX.  

      and for 5: how about adding a bill of responsibilities?

  • Beloved Comrade

    They are both taking us to the same place, types like Romney just a bit slower.  Either way, the outcome will be the same.

  • GentlemanPugilist

    ‘You want to see UGLY? What’s going to happen when the EBT cards stop working. Now that is going to be ugly.’

    Yep. But that’s the point, it’d be great for the Messiah to be held account for his profligacy and for Americans to realise what they’re up against. I reckon an Obama victory would be for the best in the long term.

  • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

    Personal background to give my own statement some context:  In 2008, I started the campaign season for Duncan Hunter, Ron Paul was my second choice, but by the time the Missouri Primary came around, Hunter dropped out, and Ron Paul was a non-factor, so I voted Romney out of fear of McCain and disgust toward open borders Huckabee.  This year, I started the season for Michele Bachmann (with a lot of reservations — She should stay away from religion, history and foreign policy, those are not her strong suits), and when the Rickroller entered the race on the same day she won Ames Straw, that made her candidacy irrelevant, and again Ron Paul was my second choice, and my actual vote by the time our (as it turns out, irrelevant from a delegate apportionment standpoint) Primary came around.

    Aside from his many problems, that he was 72 years old in 2008 and 76 years old this year, and that pure economic libertarianism won’t win much of anything, Ron Paul’s other big problem was that he was horrible at nuance, polished rhetoric and public relations.  I think that’s a message that is equally not lost on his son as it’s not lost on me, however, like I have said here in AR recently, from what I hear in back channels, Rand Paul misses his eye surgery practice and is grooming about-to-be Congressman Thomas Massie (Kentucky-4) to replace him in the Senate in 2016.  Meaning Rand will never run for President.

  • Donald McBane

    No, just the John Roberts RINO type. Better, yes. But only by a few degrees.

    Granted, that’s STILL better, though, which is sometimes all we can expect.

  • Net_Drifter

    The mid-nineties were the beginning of this country becoming unrecognizable. Clinton didn’t cause it, but he helped add to the change. Until that time you could still see signs of the Republic. 

  • Net_Drifter

    There is no white savior among the political class. That’s why it’s pointless to hold out for one. Or to wait for a worse is better scenario that may never come or won’t have the desired outcome if it does. Romney is a good as it’s gonna get for now.

    • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

      Or, better yet, decondition ourselves from this savior/white horse/silver bullet mentality.  That infantile mode of thinking and mental opiate is a pandemic disease here in our end of the political spectrum.

      JackRyanVB, I know you have a few things to say about this.

  • Net_Drifter

    Do people like you honestly believe that a movie-like fantasy revolution that will turn the Western world into a white utopia is possible at this stage?

  • Net_Drifter

    I’m anything but a pessimist, Conan. 

    I don’t believe we will all disappear or be killed to the last person unless we take up a foaming-at-the-mouth, last ditch defense against the apocalypse. 

    Whites can again carve something out for ourselves in the new ‘america’ that already exists and is intensifying.  [More] White people only have to be convinced of the need for it, and to be focused on their own needs solely, even when it’s at the expense of others. I think when it comes down to it we can defend ourselves against anybody if necessary

    The red meat gonna get ‘em all rhetoric is very, very tiresome at this point. Because it’s an impossibility and it doesn’t resonate with most people. I’m sorry, but I don’t think you get to be part of a fourth reich or whatever it is that you imagine. 

    Why are there so few people that are realistic about this? 

    • lights mckay

      Because we whites are dreamers.

    • Net_Drifter

      The difference between you and me is that I’m not terrified. 

  • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

    Facts of life:

    The Republican Party will never mount a serious challenge to RvW because rich Republican men want legal aborticide because their wives want it.  Obviously the Democrats won’t do away with it.  There is just not the political capital in this society to do anything but be pro-life around the margins.  If there ever was a serious challenge to RvW, you’d see an uproar and mobilization that would be ten times at least anything the NRA could mount over a gun bill.

    Pro-life as a political/electoral issue is basically Republican opiate trolling for votes from people who aren’t sophisticated enough to figure out what I, pro-life as any of them, have figured out.

    The state due west of mine, Kansas, is as Republican-dominated as any, yet it’s practically the aborticide capital of the Midwest, Wichita especially.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYKCW323HPUTQOUGE5WZPNXJOU John

      Yes QD … it’s interesting, that while other Puritan states like Maine, Vermont,  long ago abandoned voting Republican, Kansas has voted Republican just about every election since statehood, except for big landslides like LBJohnson, Roosevelt, Wilson.  They even voted against their neighbor HST.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NQHEAYZCMBOERHG2VZRDQ3YUSQ Felix

    Seriously and respectfully, then, can you throw some light on this?

    http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/10/when-christianism-bites-back.html

  • http://twitter.com/wattyler23 wattyler23

    What Mr Buchanan and most Americans fail to see is= In the beginning British settlers [mostly English] foundered America. After about Two hundred years  dis-  satisfaction set in [ politely put ],in short the British were usurped [politely put ], off the British went to start again else where. Now roughly Two hundred years later the descendants of those usurpers are now being usurped,=replaced, History does as they say repeat it self. So where to now?,whither shall you wander?.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Timothy-Adams/1354180138 Timothy Adams

    Nor are we unique in sensing that we are no longer one. Scotland,Catalonia and Flanders maneuver to break free of the nations that contain their peoples. All over the world, peoples are disaggregating along the lines of creed, culture, tribe and faith. Hey Buchanan, these peoples are breaking free of these pseudo-nationalities because they are NOT their people, their creed, their culture, or their faith. We are not slaves to pay the bills of the colonial masters in the metropoles.