For First Time Since Depression, More Mexicans Leave U.S. than Enter

Tara Bahrampour, Washington Post, April 23, 2012

A four-decade tidal wave of Mexican immigration to the United States has receded, causing a historic shift in migration patterns as more Mexicans appear to be leaving the United States for Mexico than the other way around, according to a report from the Pew Hispanic Center.

It looks to be the first reversal in the trend since the Depression, and experts say that a declining Mexican birthrate and other factors may make it permanent.

“I think the massive boom in Mexican immigration is over and I don’t think it will ever return to the numbers we saw in the 1990s and 2000s,” said Douglas Massey, a professor of sociology and public affairs at Princeton University and co-director of the Mexican Migration Project, which has been gathering data on the subject for 30 years.

Nearly 1.4 million Mexicans moved from the United States to Mexico between 2005 and 2010, double the number who did so a decade earlier. The number of Mexicans who moved to the United States during that period fell to less than half of the 3 million who came between 1995 and 2000.

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According to the report, the Mexican-born population, which had been increasing since 1970, peaked at 12.6 million in 2007 and has dropped to 12 million since then.

The reversal appears to be a result of tightened border controls, a weak U.S. job and housing construction market, a rise in deportations and a decline in Mexican birthrates, said the study, which used U.S. and Mexican census figures and Mexican government surveys. {snip}

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One in 10 people born in Mexico live in the United States, and more than half entered illegally. {snip}\

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The drop comes at a time when overall immigration to the United States continues to grow, and reflects several factors specific to Mexico, including a relatively strong economy and a sharply diminished birthrate.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/crystalevans54 Crystal Evans

    This confirms what I have said all along. The average Mexican migrant comes to the USA for work, not welfare. The average Mexican migrant is a young man who came to the US to get a job so that he can send money home back to his family in Mexico. These young men do not qualify for any public assistance. Five or six of them split the rent on a one bedroom apartment and tend to live frugally so that they can send more money home to their families. They have left the US because their jobs have dried up. They will be back when the economy picks up again.

    • JackKrak

      Sorry Crystal, I don’t care if the “average” Mexican comes here to work & not for welfare – obviously too many of their below-average cousins do. Tell the people of border towns and cities paying for maternity wards where 90% of the babies are born to illegals that no public funds are spent on Mexicans.

      And by the way, it’s not the US’s responsibility to ensure that every Mexican has a job.

      • http://www.facebook.com/crystalevans54 Crystal Evans

         The average Mexican migrant is a young man who comes  here to find work. The  jobs that they take are farm workers, picking fruit and vegetables in the hot sun. How many US citizens do you see doing this type of work? working long hours in restaurants cooking or washing dishes. Many of them also work in construction working as laborers. 

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

           I grew up in the Sacramento Valley and whites worked picking then.  I did when I was a young teen as did many other kids I knew.  Before me, whites did all the picking except for a small percent of Hispanics that hung on after WW2.  I also worked in restaurants later on washing dishes and more harder labor and often worked split 8 hour shifts (16 hours with a 30 minute break) in 1969.

          What changed?  The United Farmworkers Union made Spanish the operative language of the farm worker.  I know of many whites up here in Washington who tried to get jobs picking and were told that they were not qualified.  There was a fake offer to hire whites a couple years ago.  One guy traveled all over Washington State looking for the source of the offer and could not find it.  It was a political ploy (See, no whites applied).

          In Many areas of California, restaurants, and even fast food operations, Mexicans systematically harassed young white kids until they forced them out.  White kids came to not want to work in such jobs as an automatic decision.  Some employers found they could take advantage of the system by hiring Hispanics and paying cash.  Once a language change dominates, workers do better communicating in one language.  It’s come to be Spanish.

          Don’t try to tell us that whites don’t or won’t or somehow can’t do this type of work;  they’ve been systematically excluded from it.

          • shmo123

             Touche FKAW! When I was in high school, I worked as a busboy, dishwasher, etc. in several restaurants. Back then, the kitchens and staff were almost entirely white, save for a few blacks. There were plenty of willing applicants for those jobs then, and there probably could be now, if there is any work ethic left among the spoiled kids of today.

          • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

            I don’t know how much they are actually spoiled as opposed to being settled into a culture where non-whites do those jobs, a sort of perverse white elitism where they were driven out 20 years ago, so today’s white kids just don’t have the option, the way many white males don’t have options they used to  have.

            I think this old school conservative attitude that kids are spoiled and need to work is a gut reaction that is based more in a culture of harshness that many church going whites still have rather than being objective about the issues. I think if they had the opportunities, many kids would want to work. I know many in my community that do and have been looking for years now.

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            Whites certainly worked in the fields and orchards of California.

            My mother’s family is from the San Joaquin Valley.  She picked, sorted and packed peaches in the summer to put herself through college.
            And, as you know, temperatures of 105+ degrees are common in the summer.

            Bon

          • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

             California used to be such a wonderful place.  I really miss what it once was.

            BTW, I got my SS card when I was 13 so that I could work picking tomatoes.  I was employed on many ocassions by the giant, Spreckles megafarming empire.  My SS reports do not show any deductions or SS tax paid during any of my time working and being paid by check at the end of the day.

            Everything else from 1969 on was reported and paid.

        • MikeofAges

          If there is no supply of labor then farmers will have to mechanize more or switch to crops that can be raised on a mechanized basis or just require less  labor.

          Another solution is to have a serious guest worker program, with the workers tracked and compensated for their privations. Better to subsidize migrant workers at public expense than to spend untold billions on social services. Myself, I’d rather give Mexico foreign aid as a long as it actually helped people than have millions here often living under degraded condition, with “whitey” blamed for it. Not that Mexico is really a poor country, be aware of that.

    • diversity_is_a_hate_crime

      Do we really believe this? Sounds like a set up: “We don’t need border enforcement, because if we had it, we’d just impede all those wonderful Mexican Diversities who are trying to get home to take care of their children.”

      Or this: “Harsh immigration enforcement laws in a few rouge, racist states are making our Mexican Diversity guests feel so unwelcome and frightened that they are fleeing us.  We must do more to make them feel included!”

      ****

      CWNY:

      It doesn’t matter what European country you look at; the same nightmare is unfolding. A sick, degenerate white hierarchy opens up their country to the colored hordes. They hope that the colored barbarians will dispose of the white grazers and then become loving subjects of the Atticus Finches of Liberaldom. The first part of the scenario is already taking place, the second part never will take place.

      Once they enter the formerly European nations the colored barbarians do what they did in their own countries — they behave like barbarians. The only difference is that in the white countries there is no one to check them. The colored barbarians have free license to murder, rape, and rob white people. If there is even the slightest murmur of a protest from white people the government responds as it did in the Rochdale pedophile incidents; it vows to crack down on white racists. And of course the crackdown works. Even mild protests are framed in such all inclusive language — “we respect all races and faiths” and “we deplore all violence” — that the protestors become a kind of support group for the barbarians of color, reassuring them that white people won’t become violent, and white people are not against all colored barbarians, just a few misguided, naughty ones.

      I see the suicide of the white race taking place before my eyes, but I still can’t understand it. How long will white people remain a non-people? Shakespeare is the pre-eminent European poet because of the breadth and depth of his poetic vision. He is always our contemporary because he imagined and depicted every aspect of the human condition. He speaks to us, the suicidal whites, across the centuries: King Lear brings untold miseries on himself, his subjects, and his loved ones by his folly. But through suffering, Lear is ennobled. Suffering has not driven him mad; it has driven him to sanctity. And it is from that new perspective, the perspective of a saint, that King Lear realizes there are human beings so hideously evil that there can be only one response to them: “And when I have stol’n upon these son-in-laws, Then, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill!”

      http://cambriawillnotyield.wordpress.com/2012/03/03/courting-the-friendship-of-the-wicked/

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/DFC73YYAKSHGIE32R4T3TFAEHI No

      Hey, sometimes I go to the gym for a hard workout and decide it’s easier to just get on a treadmill and walk a little.

      You can’t tell me that a lot of these guys don’t take advantage of the wonders of modern liberalism.

      True, a lot work like dogs.  But they don’t come unencumbered nor do they remain that way for long.  Pretty soon, that noble “young man” splitting rent in a one-bedroom gets a little itchy and before you know it, he has 5-6 little mestizitos who do suck up welfare and social services.

    • bluffcreek1967

      I would say that most probably do come to the U.S. to work and to make enough so that it can be sent back to support their family in Mexico. The problem is that once they are here, many of them have difficulty securing a job (especially in our current economy). Unfortunately, they are soon ‘educated’ about all the welfare ‘perks’ that are available to them if they have children born in our country. Before long, they are on all sorts of  government ‘assistance’ and thus encouraged to remain here. I know this is not the case with all of the Mexicans (since obviously some are returning to Mexico), but for far too many it is.

      I think you are correct though that once the economy regains its strength, we will see many of them return to the U.S. looking for work. Unless our government secures our borders, however, and truly stops illegal immigration, our Mexican problem will never go away.   

      • http://www.facebook.com/crystalevans54 Crystal Evans

         For the most part, a young man is the first member of the family to come to the US. Crossing the US -Mexican border is not easy since due to Border Patrol having a greater presence in San Diego and in Texas, migrants are forced to cross into the US via the Arizona desert. Many of them do not make it and die in the desert. The Coroner has a large number of unidentified migrants who died on the way to the US. In order to bring any family over to the US, money has to be paid to a smuggler to bring them in.

        • The__Bobster

          Oh, cry me a river. Should I care about invaders from another race who intend to turn my country into the hellhole they just left?

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

           This is old, old news taken from any number of Public Television documentaries meant to  promote the legal entry of anyone through the Southern Border based largely on humanitarian considerations. 

    • The__Bobster

      Free medical care, using the EITC to actually get money back from the IRS using fraudulent ITIN numbers, free schooling and welfare for their anchor babies…..

      http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=96287,00.html

      BTW, the headline is misleading, if not an outright lie. Eisenhower deported hundreds of thousands of the invaders in 1954 under Operation Wetback. Many more left while the getting was good, and few dared to come back. Of course they needed a little push.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

      The effort began in California and Arizona in 1954 and coordinated 1,075 Border Patrol agents, along with state and local police agencies. Tactics employed included going house to house in Mexican-American neighborhoods and citizenship checks during
      standard traffic stops.

      Some 750 agents targeted agricultural areas with a goal of 1,000 apprehensions per day. By the end of July, over 50,000 illegal aliens were caught in the two states. An estimated 488,000 illegal aliens are believed to have left voluntarily, for fear of being apprehended. By September, 80,000 had been taken into custody in Texas, and the INS estimated that 500,000 to 700,000 had left Texas of their own accord. To discourage illicit re-entry, buses and trains took many deportees deep within Mexican territory before releasing them.

      • http://www.facebook.com/crystalevans54 Crystal Evans

         Whose to say that they did not come back? There are many illegals who have been deported and reentered the country many times. However, more people are being picked up because of Secure Communities, which is supposed to pick up criminal aliens end up picking up illegal immigrants with no criminal record. These people are more likely to fight their deportations and end up in detention for months at a time.

        • The__Bobster

          They did not come back in 1954 because they knew we meant business and they had few enablers or places to hide.

          Who is to say? How about the census?

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      Numbers tossed out by the Pew Hispanic  Center are extremely hard to document let alone prove. 

      Again, Hispanics do NOT COME HERE TO WORK. They come here specifically for FREE WHITE MONEY.  Almost 40% of students, not young 20-year old males, are illegal immigrants.

      How many times do I need to repeat that to you??

      What do you not understand about the following government statistics?

      *More than 43% of all food stamps go to illegal aliens.*Fewer than 2% of illegals are picking crops but 41% are on welfare*More than 66% of all births in California are to illegals on Medi-Cal paid for by the US TAXPAYER*Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties in the U.S. are illegals*More than 39% of California students in grades 1-12 are illegals.*US Companies using illegal labor in 2005 profited over 2.36 TRILLION dollars.They neither assimilate with Americans nor “raise themselves up” even after three generations:*Fifty percent of Hispanic households use some form of welfare, the highest rate of any major population group.*Even third-generation Hispanics drop out of school at a higher rate than blacks and are less likely to be college graduates.http://amren.com/wpcontent/uploads/20…They are the very definition of government parasites and a bane on our economy and culture.Bon

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

       In California, I personally saw how Mexicans were being smuggled in, taught to get hurt on the job and be processed through Spanish speaking clinics by greedy, traitorous doctors so that they could make money and the illegals end up with a nice permanent disability check for life.  I quit the clinic when I learned what was going on the left the state, finally disgusted with all the Hispanic based frauds I had seen all my life.

  • Hunter Morrow

    This lie is being repeated. I’d say for every person leaving 2 are being born. Look, there are now more “Latinos” than blacks in America and we are supposed to believe they are leaving the country?

    Just like the number 10 to 12 million illegal felon invaders, that were were told nearly 20 years ago when Clinton was still in office. Only 10 million illegals my White rear.

     

    • http://www.facebook.com/crystalevans54 Crystal Evans

      There are several factors as to why they are leaving 1. Anti immigrant laws passed in several states.2. Deportations. Obama has deported one million people during his term. 3. Lack of work. Because of the economy, many of the migrants are leaving the country because they lost their jobs.

      • The__Bobster

        The one million is a fake number. Obongo counts the squat monsters who are apprehended at the border and sent back, only to try again the next day.

    • http://eradica.wordpress.com/ Firepower

      From 1995 to 2000, 2.9 million Mexicans came to the United States

      AND HAD 50 MILLION ILLEGAL babies

      ALL Xlinton and Obama voters

  • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

    Fake news.  The part about “tightened border controls” was the touch that gave it away.

    Belated April Fools.

    • The__Bobster

      Oh, you remembered that Obongo pulled troops away from the border so as not to “offend” Mexico.

      • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

         I also remembered that Omexico never actually sent troops to the border, just five National Guardsmen with a humvee and a tent for photo-ops and PR.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DFC73YYAKSHGIE32R4T3TFAEHI No

    Man . . . you know how bad things must be for a mestizo to want to return to Mexico?

    Well, they’re probably not that bad (yet). 

    I’m still searching for the “news.”  Apparently, there were 12.6 million mexicans in 2007 and there are only 12 million today.  That’s a 4.7% difference.  Subtract a substantial margin of error (no doubt non-whites were doing much of the counting) and the difference is negligible.

    Yeah, some might have gone home . . . probably to buy up cheap land or invest in the booming drug market.  Or maybe they ducked when the census counter came.  Or maybe they’re on vacation.  Or maybe they’re calling themselves white now.

    I agree . . . non-story.

  • Diamond_Lil

    Well, here in California, it’s not like you’d really notice it.  Sigh.

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

       Even to the north, Oregon and Washington, there only seems to be more Hispanics.

  • IstvanIN

    The ones who came three months ago may have gone back but the ones who dropped babies here, and those babies, and those baby’s babies never leave.  The 12 million who were here in 1970 have resulted in 30 million Mexican-(Americans?) today.

    • http://www.facebook.com/crystalevans54 Crystal Evans

       Those who were here in 1970, were legalized in the 1986 amnesty. Many are now US citizens.

  • The__Bobster

    She should care. Mexicans don’t like nips, either.

  • http://www.facebook.com/crystalevans54 Crystal Evans

     The problem is that Americans will not do those jobs anymore. Farmers in Georgia and other states could not find or keep people working in the fields. As a result, many crops ended up rotting in the field because there were not enough workers to pick them. Some crops are delicate and cannot be picked by machine such as lettuce.

    • Jerrybear

      Boohoo. Cry me a river. Corporate farms in Georgia suffered the consequences of hiring illegal aliens. They are lucky their businesses aren’t fined or shut down. A low supply of labor is something America needs. If farmers dont have the man power, they will either have to pay decent wages or be innovative and find other ways to pick the crops. The technology is there. There just needs to be a demand. Abundant cheap labor keeps our economy from progressing into the future.

    • http://seradly.blogspot.com/ REGVLVS

      Those farmers a damn liars, the very same sort who once used enslaved Africans. They are Slave-Power criminals. It is high time for another march through Georgia.

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

       There is nothing stopping us from changing that.  But it would mean several things.  One would be getting rid of the  illegals and making farmers pay a living wage to workers, resulting in more expensive produce (but I am not sure of this since the government subsidy puzzle is yet to be disentwined from this formula).

      In 1900, 90% of Americans lived on farms, family farms.  A realist future for whites might not be such an extreme, but the collapse that is sure to come will see a necessity in many whites returning to the land and forgetting about all the phoney jobs and careers that they are engaged in now (sales, finance, “high tech,” etc.).

  • http://www.facebook.com/crystalevans54 Crystal Evans

     Tell me what I said is wrong. I have seen more young Mexican men than women. I have seen young men send remittances in the amount of 2k home to Mexico via Western Union.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      “I have seen” is your OPINION.  In Los Angeles, in MY OPINION,  I see FAR more young, often pregnant Hispanic women with a baby in a stroller and three or four kids trailing behind.  This is common everywhere.  In the schools, we are prohibited by law from asking a student’s legal status, although I see “Mexico” and “El Salvador” listed as the birthplace of many students, far more, I suspect are anchor babies from looking at the mothers.

      Here are a few more “fun facts” about illegal aliens, 98% of whom are Hispanic:

      *More than 41% of unemployment checks issued in the U.S. are to illegal aliens.

      *62% of illegal aliens are working for cash and not paying taxes.

      *97.2% of all costs incurred from illegal alien births are paid by American taxpayers.

      *More than 66% of ALL births in California were to illegal aliens on Medi-Cal, paid for by American taxpayers.

      *The lifetime fiscal impact for the average adult Mexican illegal alien on the average American taxpayer is $55,000 over a five year span.  You personally are giving over $11,000 dollars every year to illegal aliens.

      They are a drain on our economy and California is in the process of imploding from trying to support these people.

      Wherever you live, it WILL affect you, not just us in the beholden state.  Illegals are spreading out all over the U.S. into cities everywhere including Alaska and Hawaii — Canada too for that matter.

      Bon

      http://www.thewakeupamerica.com/ILLEGAL_ALIEN_INVASION_FACT_SHEET.htm

  • IKantunderstand

    I have heard that the Mexican economy has improved. Gringos to the South! Now! Let’s flood the place, we can claim we are looking for a better life!

  • KenelmDigby

    Even a plague of locusts flies away when the crops are stripped bare.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephanie-Galonska/100000365443540 Stephanie Galonska

      Excellent Description!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephanie-Galonska/100000365443540 Stephanie Galonska

    So much for the “Immigrants Love America” bit.  They drain us and then they leave us.  Parasitic is the word I’ve read here and My Lord, how True that is.

    They Use and Abuse Our Infrastructure, Our Welfare, Our Tax System and Our Resources while at the same time, Add Trash, Crime, Overcrowding and Unemployment and Depressed Wages for Americans.  That sounds pretty parasitic to me.  One who sucks the Blood of out the Living and then once drained, moves on.

    • http://seradly.blogspot.com/ REGVLVS

      They will run when we fight, I have no doubt to that. Anyone without real roots in this country (including whites born in Europe) will pack up and flee to whatever lands their tongue predominates. 

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephanie-Galonska/100000365443540 Stephanie Galonska

        Yes Sir!  Me, I’ll be here.  I have no European roots.  My family is from Alabama.

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

       Like many here, I also think that much of this claim is hyperbole as the numbers of Hispanics will increase anyway from still existing illegal and “legal” immigration and let’s remember, their champion baby making ways. 

      There is one caveat that we may look to with some anticipation of revenge.  After a couple decades (at least) of exporting U.S. wealth to Mexico in remittances, Mexico is said to now have something it never has had in it’s entire history; a middle class.  Wallmart among other American retail businesses have had Mexican government’s assistance in establishing their chains throughout Mexico.  China will continue to benefit, surely, but we will too because all the money Mexicans spend there will come back to the U.S. since Wallmart is a U.S. based corporation. 

      So all those Mexicans running back to their country to get jobs at all these American retailers are really nothing but pawns (less than pawns, peons really) in the game of international capitalism.  How much actual good it will do white America is likely limited, however.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephanie-Galonska/100000365443540 Stephanie Galonska

        I always did find it funny how they can say “Economy” but then in the very same breath, they say “Global Economy”.  You can’t have both.

        Global Economy only serves to Drain The West.  Jobs disappear, Quality disappears and of course, Wage disappears.

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

           That’s the thing; through international corporations they believe they can have both. 

          The “big picture” of the globalists is that everyone ends up better off.  This is as much a capitalist lie as global communism’s promise of universal equality under that system.  There will always be inequality because people just aren’t equal, so cultures aren’t equal and races aren’t equal.  Even different communities within a same race, same ethnic group country are not equal.  It’s a game they play with the little people as their game pieces.  They make money either way and the Mexicans for example run here and there for the best deals because they don’t know how to control their family sizes.  Some people, like you and me want a clear cut community that means home and that is not subject to the raids of workers from other places and interference from outside governments. 

          Globalists want to “break down the barriers to prosperity” – mostly their own.  And the communist/socialists just want to break down barriers so that everyone can enjoy one another and find “justice and equality” in a Multicultural Diversity utopia.  It all adds up to the destruction of anything worth living for…

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephanie-Galonska/100000365443540 Stephanie Galonska

            Oh I know.  The only thing that Truly dumbfounds me is how they think they can win over Human Nature but then again, maybe that’s what all the promoted race-mixing is about.  Dumb down the people and you can easily control them.

  • JohnEngelman

    It looks to be the first reversal in the trend since the Depression, and experts say that a declining Mexican birthrate and other factors may make it permanent. 

    – Tara Bahrampour, Washington Post, April 23, 2012            

     The decline in the birthrate, that is happening throughout most of the world, is a hopeful sign for the future. A high birthrate leads to a high number of young men entering the job market. If they find dismal prospects many are attracted to political and religious fanaticism.  A generation and more ago Latin America had a high birth rate. Right wing dictatorships violently competed for power with left wing revolutionary movements. Now that the birthrate is declining Latin American countries are forming democratic governments.

    • MikeofAges

       Maybe, but I have to think, your political science is a little on the simplistic side. The same aggregrate causes always lead to the same aggregrate effects. I am not sure, not in the short run anyway.

  • celticnproud

    This is good news to me…. Americanscitizens deserve the jobs in this country, not immigrants

    • The__Bobster

      Did the French consider the invading German troops to be “immigrants”? Call them what they are.

    • Anon12

      No, it is not. Because it isn’t true. Didn’t ANYONE notice this all came from the Pew HISPANIC center?  What doe that tell you? They are lying.

      The PEW is a PC driven polling center.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephanie-Galonska/100000365443540 Stephanie Galonska

        I always pointed that out to people but they dismiss it.  How can you be non-partisan and hispanic at the same time?

  • http://eradica.wordpress.com/ Firepower

      DEPORT ALL the mexes!

    Put OUR KIDS in THEIR JOBS – get them off their lazy butts

    • http://seradly.blogspot.com/ REGVLVS

      Our kids are too busy sitting in college classrooms, learning about how evil their ancestors are and how they carry the bloody stain of “white privilege”. 

      • http://eradica.wordpress.com/ Firepower

        ha – Only college classrooms?
        Try from Kindy-garden
        ON UP here, mate.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    They can’t leave yet, they haven’t voted in the 2012 election!!

    The reversal appears to be a result of tightened border controls.

    What country are they referring to?

    After a four-decade tidal wave of Mexican immigration to the United States has receded…

    Someone needs to tell the illegals in California because they obviously did not get the memo that it’s time to head back to the motherland.  I live in illegal alien ground zero– Southern California, and there has been no sign of a decrease of illegals here.  

    Even with a tight job market, living here and collecting lavish benefits  beats living in a violent third world country engaged in a civil war with the drug cartels. I am also skeptical of any report from the Pew Hispanic Center and this may be more media propaganda thrown out to appease angry Whites before the Nov. election. 

    The MSM think we’re stupid and can be manipulated.Unfortunately, in most cases, it’s true.

    Bon

  • KenelmDigby

    All wages are determined by the forces of supply and demand – they always ahve been and always will be – despite anything some know-nothing Economics professor with PhD in Bullpoopy might try to tell you.
     If Mexican labor was so darned indispensible to US agriculture, then it wouldn’t be paid so contemptibly little.
    It’s as simple as that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/PlayingRootsBackwards James Briggs

    I wonder if this is how they are getting back home?

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c88_1328487965

  • Screamin_Ruffed_Grouse

    “For First Time Since Depression, More Mexicans Leave U.S. than Enter”

    Whoo-hoo!

    Not sure I believe a word of it, but it’s been a while since I’ve read an uplifting headline.

    So what the hell? Whoo-hoo!

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

     Actually, this is close to what they do already.

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

     Even remotely similar to anyone non-white.

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

     I remember for decades in Northern California, standing in line behind and in front of Mexicans at the supermarkets with their cart, sometimes two carts, overflowing with food and paying for it all with food stamps.

    The fact is that the state supplemented farmers who paid low wages with free food, free medical care, and yes, free schools too.  It spread to manufacturing and just about everything else.   Drug gangs and gangs in general became a cultural fact.  The major reason that California is broke, with little prospect of recovery any time soon, is clear to me.  Asians will put up with it, and since they are a “Protected Group,” they will likely inherit California.  It was long said that everything that happens in the U.S. happens in California first.  This appears to be true, at least in this case.

    • MikeofAges

      California is broke, with little prospect of recovery any time soon?

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      Any time soon? How about maybe never. It is possible that California will never recover. What happens when California is divided into a White/East Asian/South Asian/assimilated Hispanic overclass, and an overwhelmingly Mestizo underclass? That is a demographic terminal condition. There are no future events than can ever change that, not anything that can happen even within a timeline of several lifetimes.
       

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

         Well of course, and I left it up to someone else to say what you have here.  Since you have said that, I will extrapolate it to the entire country.  And it isn’t just a race issue.  America is over with;  it is no longer a majority middle class nation with a representative democracy.  We have been dissipating for some time now and the good old days will not return.

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

     It wouldn’t be mistaken to call it all three.  Whites, deeply addicted to “virtue” via the Christian martyrdom model, willingly sacrifice themselves to these murderous devices, steadfast in the belief that they win by seeming noble.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    The entire government and social services industry in California,  the DMV, SS office, welfare office, intake for Medi-cal, clerks in the schools and the massive social workers army is being taken over by young Hispanics whose clients are…Hispanic.

    More and more of these jobs require Spanish as a condition of employment.

    Bon

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

     I brought this up to the Governor of Colorado a few years back.  Why do we need to import millions of new farm workers every new season?  The answer is obvious.

  • StivD

    I can’t really make myself believe in an overarching conspiracy/plan on the part of every single organization in regards to immigration and race. I think there is a a core of truth to this article. They may skew a few stats. in their own interest but I don’t think, when there are other stats., that show the same thing, all of those people are able to lie that effectively to all of us. Healthy skepticism can sometimes turn to paranoia.

    I’ve heard for a few years that the Third World’s birthrate is slowing down in some nations. It’s just not doing it necessarily fast enough.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephanie-Galonska/100000365443540 Stephanie Galonska

      Hi Stiv!

      In regards to the lower Third World Immigration Births, maybe it’s because of IMMACT ’90.  They’re here giving birth instead of there giving birth…IMMACT – White Race Replacement for Real.

  • StivD

    There’s isn’t anything shocking about people seeing things a little differently at times, that’s all.

  • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

     I heard that, too.  All the while, he was trying to support SB 1070.  Maybe he doesn’t realize that he was undermining his own support of SB 1070 with that line of reasoning.  Or maybe he does know, but it’s in the half of his brain that he keeps behind his back.  Or maybe it’s even more pernicious than that…there are rumors that some illegal maid from Guadeltombia was his oxy hookup.

  • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

    To the extent that this news is true, (and I think it’s nothing more than timed agit-prop around SCOTUS taking up SB 1070), they’re doing their best to reverse it:

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/25/rural-kids-parents-angry-about-labor-dept-rule-banning-farm-chores/

    Translation:  If your children can’t do serious farm work, then you have to import Hispanics aka future Democrat voters.  Besides, your kids are wasting their time doing farm work when they need to be doing more important things like learning about condoms, social justice and Martin Luther King.

    • deanrd

      Don’t assume they will be doing “farm work”.  Republicans have been slashing education. Scott Walker in Wisconsin by a whopping 1.85 billion.  Ryan’s plan to cut Pell Grants by 175 billion.  Then there’s the Republican “War on Science”.  Those Mexicans will be coming here as “skilled labor” with Republicans cleaning their houses while they are off doing jobs Republicans aren’t qualified for.   We’re starting to see it now.  Then you have Santorum saying “Education is for snobs”.  And he got a lot of votes.

      • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

         Cutting “education?”

        It’s about time someone took an ax to the Democrat-Far Left-Industrial complex that calls itself “education.”  Now all they need to do is re-appropriate that money to smart whites studying STEM-CSIT, and less money for black and Hispanic low IQ dummies, then cut off the stream of cheap labor H-xB Asians, then we’ll have a real country again.

    • ageofknowledge

      They just need to reopen the ARVIN camp, close down the inner city projects, and bus them all out there to their new home. The fields await them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephanie-Galonska/100000365443540 Stephanie Galonska

    What they NEVER say is:

    Americans are looking for a better life too but guess who out of those two groups, actually has the Right to look for a better life in this Country?

    I’m dirt poor, uneducated and unemployed.  Now who’s going to GIVE ME a job, health insurance and a college education and who’s going to help me look for and build a better life in my very own Country of Birth?  In short, which one of you is gonna move over so I can take over?  You have a life but it belongs to me….

    • StivD

      No, that’s true. The truly poor whites have never been paid much attention to in this country from it’s earliest days. Even slaves were more highly valued than destitute whites. People never realize that.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephanie-Galonska/100000365443540 Stephanie Galonska

        I do.  I know it.  I guess I could go and try to chase after my “free” slice of “american pie” AS A female but I won’t do that.  It is UTTERLY UN American and I just can’t do that.  I certainly qualify though, I’m a girl.

        I figure if I can’t get there on my own, I’m pretty sure I shouldn’t have it.  Don’t take this to mean receiving help is unacceptable to me because it’s not it’s just, that “help” should be earned based on my ability, not my gender.

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

     I agree with you in a way, but you’re also wrong in a way.  Just as conservative Christians justify completely nationalistic and racial elitism for whites and yes, greed over the sort of selfless philanthropy some like say, Paul or choose whoever you want in the New Testament from Jesus to Billy Graham to the Pope, they are all about giving and suffering until it hurts, even kills you.  Sure Liberals can be selfish too, but they put in more time as community volunteers and give more dollars to charity than conservative Christians do.  Either way, the problem is the same for whites; Christianity is harmful to white survival and the sooner whites figure it out and kick the habit, the better off we will all be.

  • Robin Thomas

     You nailed it. It’s a bold lie to get us to back off. Obvious to me as soon as I read it. Don’t believe a word of it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephanie-Galonska/100000365443540 Stephanie Galonska

    Exactly.  It was never meant to be a Right nor should it.

    No one is owed nothing and no one is supposed to expect nothing neither.  I just don’t get this at all.  I really don’t.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephanie-Galonska/100000365443540 Stephanie Galonska

    I did not buy it.  I see non-whites everywhere and not just that, I see them increasing in number.  Actually, I know of no American Town an American go to that is just American aka White.

  • Ingsoc

    Limbaugh’s treachery has nothing to do with his mestizo drug supplier or who works around his house.  For answers you need to look much deeper as in who signs his paycheck.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephanie-Galonska/100000365443540 Stephanie Galonska

    I hate to bring up IMMACT again but isn’t that what IMMACT is?  A legal way for them to exterminate us via outnumbering us?  I mean, the 1965 Act wasn’t working fast enough so they had to ramp it up with the ’90 Act.