MAX Beating Was Ugly, But the Reaction by Some Has Been Just as Bad

Joseph Rose, Oregon Live, January 13, 2012

As dads with teenage daughters are bound to do, Barry Buckland and I found ourselves comparing parenting notes Friday.

We didn’t get into the music that we ask them to turn down. Or how we should handle the boys suddenly snooping around. Instead, we chatted about whether it was safe for a 14-year-old girl to ride TriMet.

I have no problem with it. Surprisingly, neither does Buckland. “That’s what it’s there for,” the Gresham man said. Sure, there are going to be times when trouble hops on board. But Buckland still believes the positives of public transit far outweigh the scary stuff.

I say “still” because Buckland now knows about the rough side of riding MAX. On Dec. 26, three girls used his daughter Karley as a spitting post and punching bag on a Green Line train. A bystander thought it would be cooler to use his cellphone to shoot video than dial 9-1-1, so thousands of us have also witnessed the sickening scene via YouTube.

Police have made arrests. Karley escaped with just bumps and bruises. TriMet has promised a written apology and to improve security. But there’s still something hanging out there. Buckland and I couldn’t decide which was uglier: The video or the reaction to it. “People have taken a grain of sand,” the landscaper and fishing guide said, “and tried to turn it into a 200-pound boulder.”

Karley is white. Her attackers are black. For many people hiding under the hood of anonymity on talk radio and in online forums, that’s all the evidence they needed to unload: Hate crime! Racist attack! Proof of “black hate” and “black racism”!

Stop. The reality, investigators say, is that the flogging started after Karley and her attackers had a “verbal dispute” on the train. Karley made it clear that she didn’t appreciate the girls’ loud, distasteful remarks about a boy riding with her. They, in turn, didn’t like that she had the mettle to stand up for her friend. So, the thugs advanced.

Yes, Karley told me, one of the strangers referred to her as “white girl.” But it was an encounter of a hundred insults. The girls were drunk on their own spit. These are the things bullies say.

“I really don’t think they singled me out because I was white,” the Centennial Middle Schooler said. “This wasn’t a racial thing.” (Remember, she was there.)

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  • http://www.youtube.com/user/GenXinOz GenX ANZAC

    Progressives don’t like people who have memories and who’re able to string events together with the common factor being a racial one. 
    Make the issue a sexual one (male/female), a socio-economic one, a  gang issue, or in fact any sort of ‘cultural issue’ that can be changed by supposedly throwing more money at it and then you’ll have the “correct view”. 
    The fact is that these “grains of sand” are not singular events and as much as this writer is trying to downplay the victims injuries as “just bumps and bruises”, this young woman could have easily ended up permanently brain damaged or dead for just being White in the wrong place at the wrong time, and lets say it, in the company of the wrong people (and they’re not the wrong people just because their pockets are empty…in fact was robbery even attempted in this case?).
    It is not evil to point out evil when you witness it, it is more evil to try and protect and hide evil.

    • Anonymous

      Pattern recognition doesn’t seem to be a strong suit for these brain-dead liberal whites.

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/GenXinOz GenX ANZAC

        It may be our similarities that unite us, but it is our differences that truly defines us. 

  • Anonymous

    Well the comments on the orginal article are certainly worth a read. Mr. Rose got an earful from his readers about his attempt to down play and dismiss the race of the victim and her attackers. In his own responses to readers, he seems a little surprised that Whites are getting fed up with this kind of bias reporting and double standards where race is concerned. When confronted with some hard truths, Mr. Rose, like so many other liberals are at a complete loss as how to respond because they know the truth and the facts are on our side.

  • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

    Yes, Karley told me, one of the strangers referred to her as “white
    girl.” But it was an encounter of a hundred insults. The girls were
    drunk on their own spit. These are the things bullies say.

    You wouldn’t be singing that song if the races were reversed.

    “I really don’t think they singled me out because I was white,” the
    Centennial Middle Schooler said. “This wasn’t a racial thing.”
    (Remember, she was there.)

    Does anyone actually think that she would say it was a racial hate crime, when she probably has to go to school to blacks and ride the same transit system as blacks?  She was probably pressured at some point to say that it was not.  Remember the school bus beating in Belleville more than two years ago? 

    http://countenance.wordpress.com/2009/09/15/belleville-bus-beating-some-dare-call-it-a-hate-crime/

    • http://escapingmediocrity.wordpress.com Natassia

      Ghetto women act like that with eachother, so maybe it wasn’t really a race thing but rather a bonobo thing.

      People like that should be caged.

  • Anonymous

    So this typical liberal propagandist and the girls own father can’t decide if a 14 year old getting pummeled by blacks on the train is worse than people’s reaction to it?   Unreal.   There is something really wrong with these people.  I’m afraid they can’t be helped.  

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Kelly/100002474880678 Robert Kelly

      I agree.  Just the fact that there are numerous black on white beatings is evidence enough to suspect a racial component and anybody who can’t see that isn’t playing with a full deck, especially since it is well-known that incitement of blacks by the likes of Jeremiah Wright types is rife within the black community.
       
      This is a man who is a fool,  and he has raised a daughter who is as naive and dimwitted as he is.

      And the writer is just too dopey for his own good, and he’s obviously unaware that it is whites like him who play situations like this down, which cause other incidents to occur. 

       I wonder if he can drop his pretenses at moral superiority long enough to consider that if he and others in the media called blacks on racist actions when they committed them they would do far more to improve the situation than trying to make excuses and pretend no racism was involved. 

      Instead he tries to tell whites their reaction to a violent racist attack is uncalled for. 

      Absolutely disgusting all the way down the line. 

      • Anonymous

        I think the writer knows exactly what he’s doing.

    • Anonymous

      Well, maybe if you think about it in a different way.

      MANY white liberals think it is either ok or funny when whites get beaten by Urban Americans. That may sound like a stretch, but I really think MANY white libs have a lot of hatred towards white people in general.

    • Anonymous

      leftism is not an idology they are demented. its like being angry at a person with alzheimers or trying to teach them logic. liberals are mentally ill people who hate themselves. many times they are physically unattractive , or have  some other oddity about them that ostrasizes them from others so they hate themselves because they are not accepted. they spend their lives trying to punish theirselves. they are sick you cannot influence their thinking.

    • Anonymous

      This type of brainwashing is typical among the average Ameritard.

      It is almost like “The Matrix”. People think they know THE TRUTH…..when in actuality they are being controlled and used in a very devious way, by a Government which tells them what THE TRUTH is.

  • Anonymous

    No calls to find and stamp out all hate crimes in this case? No demands for hate crime enhancements? No condemnation of their hateful and ignorant thoughts? Then expect the beatings to continue against ‘weak’ whites and their surrogates. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E46TDN3G66VZDQGGD5KHXQUBZQ B

    Why didn’t Mr. Rose remind us of an incident where three white girls beat on a black girl like this. Because it doesn’t happen is why. This type of violence where a group gangs up on one is very much a black thing.

    If we had honest hate crime laws in this country, laws that for example doubled your penalty any time you victimize someone outside your own race, then our country would know the true color of hate in America. Happy MLK day.

    • Anonymous

      I think you are right on.  The liberal media always try to say that there was no racial motive.  The truth is they may very well be right.  Blacks demonstrate a propensity toward indiscriminate violence.  That doesn’t make blacks any less of a threat to whites, and it doesn’t make white fear of blacks any less rational.

  • Anonymous

    A bystander thought it would be cooler to use his cellphone to shoot video than dial 9-1-1,

    Buckland and I couldn’t decide which was uglier: The video or the reaction to it. “People have taken a grain of sand,” the landscaper and fishing guide said, “and tried to turn it into a 200-pound boulder.”

    Karley was only spit on, treated like a ‘punching bag’, but she’s ok. That someone used a cell phone to record  the incident instead of calling the police is understandable in the age of youtube celebrity, I guess.

    So what should we  be concerned about? The attack or the response?

    By the rules of Political Correctness, the response, naturally. Mr. Rose and Mr. Buckland have both learned this lesson well. 

    Yes, Karley told me, one of the strangers referred to her as “white girl.” But it was an encounter of a hundred insults. The girls were drunk on their own spit. These are the things bullies say.

    Also by the rules of Political Correctness, it’s not a hate crime if blacks initiate the attack. Maybe Karley needs to go a sensitivity training class for even mentioning the ‘white girl’ comment. After all, why did she feel it was important to tell her father about the remark? Does Karley harbor a bias against blacks? Maybe that’s what really needs to be investigated.

    When a parent of the victim defends and excuses the attackers of his own daughter, there is something very wrong with the parent.  Had this happened to a black girl, black parents and black community leaders would be screaming for blood. 

     Mr. Rose and Mr. Buckland pass the PC Test with an A+.

  • Anonymous

    A bystander thought it would be cooler to use his cellphone to shoot video than dial 9-1-1,

    Buckland and I couldn’t decide which was uglier: The video or the reaction to it. “People have taken a grain of sand,” the landscaper and fishing guide said, “and tried to turn it into a 200-pound boulder.”

    Karley was only spit on, treated like a ‘punching bag’, but she’s ok. That someone used a cell phone to record  the incident instead of calling the police is understandable in the age of youtube celebrity, I guess.

    So what should we  be concerned about? The attack or the response?

    By the rules of Political Correctness, the response, naturally. Mr. Rose and Mr. Buckland have both learned this lesson well. 

    Yes, Karley told me, one of the strangers referred to her as “white girl.” But it was an encounter of a hundred insults. The girls were drunk on their own spit. These are the things bullies say.

    Also by the rules of Political Correctness, it’s not a hate crime if blacks initiate the attack. Maybe Karley needs to go a sensitivity training class for even mentioning the ‘white girl’ comment. After all, why did she feel it was important to tell her father about the remark? Does Karley harbor a bias against blacks? Maybe that’s what really needs to be investigated.

    When a parent of the victim defends and excuses the attackers of his own daughter, there is something very wrong with the parent.  Had this happened to a black girl, black parents and black community leaders would be screaming for blood. 

     Mr. Rose and Mr. Buckland pass the PC Test with an A+.

  • Anonymous

    A bystander thought it would be cooler to use his cellphone to shoot video than dial 9-1-1,

    Buckland and I couldn’t decide which was uglier: The video or the reaction to it. “People have taken a grain of sand,” the landscaper and fishing guide said, “and tried to turn it into a 200-pound boulder.”

    Karley was only spit on, treated like a ‘punching bag’, but she’s ok. That someone used a cell phone to record  the incident instead of calling the police is understandable in the age of youtube celebrity, I guess.

    So what should we  be concerned about? The attack or the response?

    By the rules of Political Correctness, the response, naturally. Mr. Rose and Mr. Buckland have both learned this lesson well. 

    Yes, Karley told me, one of the strangers referred to her as “white girl.” But it was an encounter of a hundred insults. The girls were drunk on their own spit. These are the things bullies say.

    Also by the rules of Political Correctness, it’s not a hate crime if blacks initiate the attack. Maybe Karley needs to go a sensitivity training class for even mentioning the ‘white girl’ comment. After all, why did she feel it was important to tell her father about the remark? Does Karley harbor a bias against blacks? Maybe that’s what really needs to be investigated.

    When a parent of the victim defends and excuses the attackers of his own daughter, there is something very wrong with the parent.  Had this happened to a black girl, black parents and black community leaders would be screaming for blood. 

     Mr. Rose and Mr. Buckland pass the PC Test with an A+.

  • Anonymous

    A bystander thought it would be cooler to use his cellphone to shoot video than dial 9-1-1,

    Buckland and I couldn’t decide which was uglier: The video or the reaction to it. “People have taken a grain of sand,” the landscaper and fishing guide said, “and tried to turn it into a 200-pound boulder.”

    Karley was only spit on, treated like a ‘punching bag’, but she’s ok. That someone used a cell phone to record  the incident instead of calling the police is understandable in the age of youtube celebrity, I guess.

    So what should we  be concerned about? The attack or the response?

    By the rules of Political Correctness, the response, naturally. Mr. Rose and Mr. Buckland have both learned this lesson well. 

    Yes, Karley told me, one of the strangers referred to her as “white girl.” But it was an encounter of a hundred insults. The girls were drunk on their own spit. These are the things bullies say.

    Also by the rules of Political Correctness, it’s not a hate crime if blacks initiate the attack. Maybe Karley needs to go a sensitivity training class for even mentioning the ‘white girl’ comment. After all, why did she feel it was important to tell her father about the remark? Does Karley harbor a bias against blacks? Maybe that’s what really needs to be investigated.

    When a parent of the victim defends and excuses the attackers of his own daughter, there is something very wrong with the parent.  Had this happened to a black girl, black parents and black community leaders would be screaming for blood. 

     Mr. Rose and Mr. Buckland pass the PC Test with an A+.

    • Anonymous

      I’m sorry for the multiple posts but DISQUS keep reporting there was an error.
       

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/GenXinOz GenX ANZAC

        I was experimenting with the image button last week, and I put up a random picture and completely unrelated picture to the post I made, as an experiment (which could have very easily been a ‘happy snap’ of my family but was luckily{?} a Conan picture) to only find that I couldn’t remove it or edit it.
        If you go to ‘dashboard’ of your own profile http://disqus.com/sbuffalonative/ then click on the ‘only you’ tab, there seems to be a delete button for every individual comment.
        Like a mission impossible message, I too will delete this passage  in the name of experimentation in a couple of hours.

        • Anonymous

          Thanks for the tip. I’ll try but I was kinda hopin’ the Moderator would do the work for me…

          • http://www.youtube.com/user/GenXinOz GenX ANZAC

            Huh, so all that happens when you delete your own comment, is you remove your own Disqus account being associated with that comment. 
            Well that’s at least one way of being anonymous or having a multiple personality argument with yourself. 

      • Anonymous

        Have you also noticed that if you post anywhere else on the internet that uses DISQUIS that your Amren handle shows up?

  • Anonymous

    I wonder what type of mental gymnastics liberals do when they get beaten up by blacks while being called racial slurs but still come to the conclusion it wasn’t racial.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FWMCMK6U5OWRHYIYJAF2TPFL2U thomas

      It truly is amazing isn’t it Scott!

    • Anonymous

      They blame themselves if they are white.

      The logic being, all whites deserve to be “Paid Back” for the horrors imposed upon OUR saintly Urban Americans.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephanie-Galonska/100000365443540 Stephanie Galonska

    WOW!

    If this is True, I find this to be a Solid Case of Child Abuse and the Father at least, should be jailed.

    This Child has been so abused in fact, she doesn’t even understand that she has The Right to say whatever and wherever she damn well pleases and this is all WITH the Expectation to not be beat for it.

    On the other side, I say, to hell with them.  If they’re gonna be this stupid, let them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephanie-Galonska/100000365443540 Stephanie Galonska

    I also meant to say, if it was the father who called this a “grain of sand”, he should be jailed for that alone.

    • Anonymous

      it seems the father found the comments that it was a racially motivated worse than his own daughter being beaten. Truly sick the liberal mindset.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephanie-Galonska/100000365443540 Stephanie Galonska

        I just can’t believe it.  Do you think these Retarded White People will stay with their beloved non-whites or quietly move to one of our extremely last few remaining White Communities?

        • Anonymous

          The answer is……some of them will move, taking their liberal filth to Crackerville and promptly wreck ing it.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephanie-Galonska/100000365443540 Stephanie Galonska

            That’s EXACTLY what I thought too!

            And after they’ve sneaked their way into our areas, they will then proceed to “preach” to us the “value” of “tolerance” and “inclusivity” and sadly, most of us will never bother to question it.

            I would though ’cause for me, being called “racist” and “bigot” is a compliment.  My views are narrow Thank God and I KNOW My Race is Superior.  I only need to look around to know that!

          • Anonymous

            Do you find this is already happening?

            That is, that the same breed of folks that 20-30 years ago invaded the area where you used to drive for a living and tried to set up the same multiculti-socialist utopia they fled CA and the East Coast to escape, are suddenly cropping up in Crackerville as refugees from their latest crime-ridden, traffic-gridlocked crumbling disaster?

            I’ve heard this is a budding phenomenon in places like North Idaho and Western Montana.

          • Anonymous

            To: TNDE

                        Yes, I have seen liberals INVADE one nice areas and pollute them.

             I lived in Cheyenne for a time……the Liberals were fleeing the ever increasing violence of Denveradelphia and coming to Wyoming with thier QUAINT ideas.  

          • Anonymous

            Actually, although many liberals have moved into more rural areas in the past, fleeing from their creation, many conservative but just different-from- you type whites have moved in too.   Increases in population bring changes no matter what their politics might be.

            But this is a past phenomena.  I really believe that the whites who are going to flee say, California, have done so already.  I can tell you from experience what is going on now.  The NAACP has been for about ten years now, assessing middle and small sized cities for racial diversity.  When they find ones that are of high white populations they engage in a program of contacting the city, engaging the mayor publicly to pressure the local governments to “Diversify.”  This is how busloads of Somalis show up in some rural town, or how blacks leaving L.A. find you out.  They partner up with companies, say a meatpacking plant, and tell the local government about how the local economy will improve and then bring in refugees to work at it.  The Fed subsidizes a housing plan.  Suddenly your kids have new classmates who will soon be beating them up and sexually assaulting the girls.  It has happened everywhere in the U.S., and is happening.

            It is a system far more sophisticated than some liberal whites moving in, and it really is systematic genocide.

            So stop spending so much thought and energy on hating fellow whites because they are liberals.  Whites are far too good at polarizing among themselves, we must find a way to end this sickness.  Many liberals are waking up.  They may not have the usual rural white views on EVERYTHING, but they are your brethren and you must find a way to attract them and accept them as converts. 

          • Anonymous

            To: For_kno_as_wp

                  Do you remember when Kris Kime was slaughtered by Urban Americans at Seattle’s Mardi Gras???? White Libs made every  excuse in the book for the murderers.
                 Remember Reginald Denny? Urban Americans nearly beat him to death…..nearly killing him…..pemanently damaging him…..white libs did their best to peddle water for the attackers.

            You will see white libs take up for Urban Americans every chance they get.

            A lot of very smart libs are in the position to make policies that hurt this society. Many white libs think it is both funny and justified when Urban Americans go bats**t crazy and harm people because Urban Americans are white libs modern day stormtroopers.

        • Anonymous

          Well, I live in Crackerville, we have a 3% Urban American population.

          But still, the folks here are bombarding the place with 24/7 groveling………MLK THIS, MLK THAT…..barf.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephanie-Galonska/100000365443540 Stephanie Galonska

            This is what I’m talking about in part.  No one questioned mlk’s Honesty, the proven Plagiarism, NOTHING in that meeting that approved this abomination!  This a HUGE problem.

            “We” must start questioning our own and making them give answers.  They won’t be able to answer we know but hopefully, if we can corner them so to speak, perhaps the audience will start thinking and researching…

            By the above I mean, Local Township Meetings, etc.

          • Anonymous
          • Anonymous

            You’re right, the MLK myth needs to be dismantled.  But we do have plenty of ammunition.  A book came out last year, edited by Carolyn Kennedy of her mother Jackie’s memoirs.  In them Jackie wrote of how much she detested King and how he always tried to set up/participate in orgies when he came to DC.  We also know he had a second family he created while married to his wife, and that he was affiliated with the American Communist party.  And yes, he was a plagiarist.

            They will reply that his work and example is more important than that, but aside from a huge amount of white guilt, what good has his example really done for blacks in general?  Thomas Sowell wrote an essay a while back about how the Great Society programs, Affirmative Action, etc., actually harmed the black community by creating fatherless families, and more dependence on the State and the scam culture of endless victimhood and demands for compensation.

            We might point out that after over 40 years, the result of social engineering that while foisting an unprepared black man into the White House, has resulted in urban and social decay on such a level that last week Chris Christie asked for National Guard troops to assist policing Camden because their police department is overwhelmed, how Detroit is a ruin, how St. Louis, LA, wherever you wish to point to (insert name of city) is rotted or rotting away, due to the ongoing MYTH of MLK.

            Of course, it won’t do any good.

        • Anonymous

          Sorry, the ideology/brainwashing of the left is too deep. You try preaching to them…..they will look upon you as if you are INSANE. 

          Even the so-called conservative bleat the MLK line like little school girls with a crush on some boy.

          It is really looking like a failed country. Best thing to do is stock up on guns, ammo, canned food and a couple of huge, blockhead-type dogs that are “allergic” to Urban Americans.

          • Anonymous

            To: The Bobster:

                         Nice article on Mlk, reinforces my suspicions about this man.

                        The sad thing is that Phonycons  like Bill Bennett, Michael Medved, Hugh Hewitt are the biggest suck-ups to Mlk and blacks in general. Most of the Phonycon talk-radio hosts play lots of black bumper music…..”oh, look at how much I love black culture”.

  • Anonymous

    Truly, the cowardice displayed in this article is beyond reprehnsible. What a revolting commentary on our times – and undeniable evidence of how brainwashed and ideologically castrated many modern “men” really are.

    • Anonymous

      You’re right, but the castrating was done by women via Feminism.

  • Anonymous

    The “grain of sand” is black people being asked to sit at the back of a bus.

    The “200 lb boulder” is whites (and others)  being robbed, raped, murdered, beaten and hassled every day by blacks on public transportation.

    But what about this father? His daughter was beaten and spit upon because of her race and he is mad at whites for noticing the racial aspect? What kind of specimen is this? Does any other race produce such pathetic specimens?

    My ultimate feeling when reading this is disgust at the white father. Not even sticking up for his own daughter! Perhaps it is better if whites are replaced by Hispanics and Asians if this is what we have become.

    • Anonymous

      Maybe I’m old-fashioned but I don’t know what kind of father lets his 14-year-old daughter ride public transportation alone in the first place.  You can get jail time for leaving kids not much younger than this in the car while you go into the grocery store.

      You are right by the way, this is no specimen of a man in my opinion.  And of course we hateful white people are reading far too much into this.  In fact I read so much into it I almost missed the story from Michigan where another White woman was savaged for asking Blacks to keep their voices down. 

      Nothing to see here, move along.  These aren’t the droids you’re looking for.  You should be ashamed of yourself for even letting the thought cross your mind that this was anything else other than, well we haven’t gotten around to figuring out what it is we just know it’s not Black-on-White hate crime.

      Let me use the N-word in a fight and have the media defend me as “drunk on spit,” do you think I should expect that to happen?

      • Anonymous

        Our girls have to become tough in a tough world. Train your daughters how to prepare and survive such encounters… and still be a lady.

        • Anonymous

          This sort of thing has been tried for decades now.  Early karate classes, rape prevention training, increased attention and money spent on women’s sports and a myriad of media propaganda aimed at puffing women up as fighters able to toss men in every direction all day long, (even often saving bigger, stronger men).  Yet, all that has really changed is that women have become incredibly unladylike, verbally aggressive ((I mean white women)  and often frankly disgusting in public.

          The real solution is to bring back the idea of men escorting women, and other ideas like women don’t go partying alone until all hours. It’s just some old Chivalric values that are really all about protecting and respecting each other, not oppression or limiting women’s freedom. But this stuff will go on until we learn that we’re going to have to literally stick together to survive.

      • Anonymous

        You’re exactly right. Excuses for behavior run one way only. There was no racial element to this assault but blacks can see racism in the way the clouds form in the sky and no one questions it.

        Extra points for Star Wars reference.

      • Anonymous

        “Let me use the N-word in a fight and have the media defend me as “drunk on spit,” do you think I should expect that to happen? “

        Hate Crime Laws were created to ENHANCE punishment if a racial slur was used during the attack. The attacker USED A RACIAL SLUR. By definition, this is a hate crime and should be prosecuted as such.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/GenXinOz GenX ANZAC

      “Our Country won’t go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won’t be any AMERICA because some foreign soldier will invade us and take our women and breed a heartier race!”

      That is a quote by Lt General Chesty Puller (1898-1971) who is the USMC’s most decorated Marine earning five Navy Cross citations for bravery.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesty_Puller

      I found like quote from following a link from a link, starting from a Taki Mag article, but what struck me the most about this quote was how Amren like it is.
      It makes one appreciate how yesteryear’s masculine nationalism, has today been replaced with a weak and apologetic stance of inclusiveness.
      Where the former ethos was one of building and strength, of pride and of will power, the later is one of destruction, shame and inferiority.Yet it was this old ethos of strength that made your country great.
      The hearty stock that people like Chesty Puller, Teddy Roosevelt and Daniel Boone came from has not yet dried up or disappeared, but it is only their type of inspiring strength that has been redefined, so that their healthy competitiveness has now been relabeled as a type of egotistical supremacism, which surely can not advance an individual or a nation.

  • Anonymous

    So, the black attackers are not the bad ones for beating the girl.  Whites are the bad ones for noticing the attackers were black!  That is SOP for white liberials who believe they are more intelligent than folks like me.  They attempt to portray common sense as a character flaw called racism. 

    IF this were an isolated incident they may have the moral high ground.  However, as anyone with an IQ above room temperature knows, the clear PATTERN is black on white violence even in the highly censored liberal media.  The cowardly white liberals would NEVER write a story about that.  It takes black conservatives like Larry Elder to point this out. 

    I have lost a great deal of respect for my own race.  I keep wondering just how low we can go before we wake up as a group.  

     

       

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FWMCMK6U5OWRHYIYJAF2TPFL2U thomas

    Buckland’s daughter is viciously attacked by thug blacks and
    yet he still holds steadfast to political correctness by refusing to recognize
    this attack as being racially motivated. This despite the fact  racial insults were being hurled at his daughter while the blacks  assaulted her.

    Who needs enemies when we have people like Buckland seemingly willing to sacrifice his own daughter in order to tow the PC banner.

    Good grief!

  • Anonymous

    Uglier yet:  people with their heads firmly up their keisters and don’t see the hypocrisy.  Were the races reversed, Al Shakedown would come out of the woodwork and demand some heads on some poles.

  • Anonymous

    Another one…..head in the sand…..well, reality via Internet Video is starting to wake people up.

    Urban Americans are and always will be a very poor fit for this once fine country.

    PS: I cannot take hearing another white lib praise The Holy One>>>>MLK. Oh, that is right, next month is you know what.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TGVSWXWUF2WW3P35FLK6H5J4AM Kyle Skyler

    Joseph Rose is Jewish.  If these had been skinheads instead of blacks, I seriously doubt he would have such a nonchalant attitude. 

    • Anonymous

      Na, he would have slunk away the same.  The Skinheads around here (Portland) KYLE SKYLER, would have been hitting on her because she is very pretty, or maybe attacking the black guy she was with?

  • http://escapingmediocrity.wordpress.com Natassia

    Cowardly father deserves a beating.

  • Anonymous

    I just read through all of the comments on the original article and what I took away from it is I’d really rather live next door to the Trimet hit squad than I would those slipperly slimy Portland liberals and their peculiar mental issues. They bring up a restaurant that hasn’t existed in 50 years as though the indignity of a harsh caricature justifies this kind of behavior.  That we are simply enjoying our just desserts.
     
    What we can take away from this is that both Blacks and guilt-ridden White liberals think you are bound to accept a life of degradation, and constant fear of injury or death at the hands of “righteous” violence.  You must accept this as payment for nonspecific injustice and hardship meted out by people who are long dead to people who are long dead.  So based on this shared attitude, both groups are equally dangerous to people who espouse the kinds of opinions aired here, because we DON’T accept this. 

    “I know he shot up the beer distributorship but I mean come on, they DID draw nooses and write epithets on the bathroom stall sooooo…” 

    That’s the exact same sentiment as is expressed in this article, and the comments at its original site.  So don’t let them try and tell you it would be different if the crime were more severe.  Because it wouldn’t.  They could have killed her on that train; there’d still be the trusty White liberal apologist to come along and say “yeah well, slavery.”
     
    So I pick the violent, aggressive Black women.  At least I know they’ll stick the knife in the front of me.
     

    • Anonymous

      Keep in mind though, there were a few comments that complained about how many posts had been removed because those people didn’t toe the PC line. But I also agree that some of the most “liberal” comments are just incredible in their attempt to make excuses for this kind of behavior. 

  • http://jewamongyou.wordpress.com/ jewamongyou

    Maybe that’s just how those young ladies celebrate MLK day, by spitting upon, and beating up, a white girl.  They probably consider it more fun than participating in a parade.

    But seriously, it is possible that the attack was not racially motivated.  This is true – but had the races been reversed, would the same benefit of a doubt have been extended to the perps?

    Furthermore, as others have already stated, such attacks are not isolated events.  They are part of a larger pattern.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, yes – the race for the moral high ground from our liberal friends. There is no excuse they won’t make, no pretzled logic they won’t stretch, no apology they won’t extend in order to reassure themselves of their decency.

    There’s also no reality they won’t ignore.

  • Anonymous

    Seventy years ago only a lobotomy could have produced a pathetic creature like this girl’s father. Now the social conditioning carried out by anti-whites disconnects Whites from their natural feelings as skillfully as a lobotomist’ knife.

    This girl’s father receives today’s White GeNOcide Project(dotcom) award for “White who best modeled how to submit to White Genocide.”

  • Anonymous

    “… it is possible that the attack was not racially motivated.”

    jewamongyou, whether or not a crime is “racially motivated” is completely a red herring IMO. What is clearly a fact is that blacks too often make whites the victims of their savagery. Who cares what thoughts are in their tiny brains as they spit and punch and behave as no other race does?

  • Anonymous

    Why doesn’t he just hang  a sign on his daughter that says ” Beat me, I’m White?”

    “…. the girls’ loud, distasteful remarks about a boy riding with her. ” Let me guess, the boy was Black? Why else would the Black girls be upset? And what did this brave young man do to help the girl that was defending him?

    ” A bystander thought it would be cooler to use his cellphone to shoot video than dial 9-1-1, …”

    Right, we want pictures of police”beating” Blacks, but we don’t want videos of Blacks beating whites.

  • Anonymous

    Well now that’s true , and they also almost always resort to childish insults when they can’t win an argument, but since Mr. Rose probably doesn’t want to to lose all his readers he managed to contain himself and just didn’t reply to some of the more hard core, factual comments.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JNUW2YXGD5SWPFAKPIOID2KEIQ Armando

    I am so glad that I do no live in the liberal utopia of Oregon.  It is a place where blacks regularly assault, robb and murder whites ( and Asians) and the white liberal intelligencia see no pattern of black racist violence. Not only do they see no racial component to these acts of violence but the real problem is the whites who do take notice and speak or write about it! Sadly, Mr. Rose probably won’t come to his senses until one of his own family is in the wrong place at the wrong time and perhaps not even then.

    • Anonymous

      You are exaggerating.  While Oregon does have a problem with black and Hispanic crime, especially in Portland and Salem, their certainly aren’t regular murders of whites or anyone.  And that crime rate is not nearly as high as points South and East.  People here are still shocked when something like this happens.  The liberals just shrink from admitting the obvious.

      Interesting though, the same week, another attack occurred in Portland.  A 14 year old white boy was crossing a street in a crosswalk, with headphones plugged in, sauntering like a black.  He then made a palm up gesture also peculiar to gangs types that says, “Hey, I’m walkin’ here!”  A black man got out of his car and beat the kid down and then fled in his car.  There was no big story made of it locally after the first report as in the MAX beating.  Was it the sex of the victim, or ….. what?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JNUW2YXGD5SWPFAKPIOID2KEIQ Armando

        For the calander year 2010, in the state of Oregon, there were 91 murders, 1214 rapes, 2390 robberies and 5,960 aggravated assaults. http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/orcrime.htm

        In Oregon, African-Americans are 1.8 percent of the population, but are responsible for 15 percent of murder, 10 percent of rape, 18 percent of robbery, 10 percent of aggravated assault, and 6 percent of burglary.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FWMCMK6U5OWRHYIYJAF2TPFL2U thomas

    What will happen? I suspect something like the Stockholm syndrome will take place. The next time we see her, she will be strolling down the street, hand-in-hand with LaShawn,
    pushing his mullato baby in a stroller.

    If the father does not believe his daughter worth saving, what are the chances the daughter will ever believe it?

  • Anonymous

    MAX beating was ugly, but the reaction by some has been just as bad….Priceless.

  • Anonymous

    Max Beating Was Hatecrime but Oregon Live Reporting/commentary Much Worse.Its these type of articles that have been embolding blacks for the last 50 years to murder and rape Whites and create all sorts of race hoaxs to injure Whites and receive monetary awards.

    • Anonymous

      I live in this area.  The story came to be that the definition of Hate Crime was not appropriate because it could not be proven that the attack occurred due to race, even though the attackers shouted racial slurs at their white victim during the attack.

      That’s the sort of reasoning that goes for justice today.  Unbiased logic and reason would indicate that when someone uses such slurs, they had to learn them through a hateful thought process and likely parental influence.  It turns out that the attacking mother and the daughters already had long rap sheets, including previous assault by the mother.

  • Taurus689

    Thoughtcrime1933,
    Do you really believe that each of those perps HAS an identifiable father? 

  • Anonymous

    For many people hiding under the hood of anonymity on talk radio and in online forums, that’s all the evidence they needed to unload: Hate crime! Racist attack! Proof of “black hate” and “black racism”!

    _________

    And why are these people anonymous? Is it because of the consequences of speaking the truth in today’s society?

    Of course, they would be rewarded for lying about blacks like MLK or Malcolm X.

    http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/01/16/liberty-bell-is-rung-softly-to-honor-dr-martin-luther-king/

    Each year, the Philadelphia MLK Association for Nonviolence chooses bell ringers to symbolically tap the bell, and similar ceremonies take place in other locations around the US.

    This year’s honorees are two daughters of Malcom X and Betty Shabazz.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephanie-Galonska/100000365443540 Stephanie Galonska

    I still don’t get it.  Media or no Media, how can a White Person bash and be against their own Race?

    I want these people to have to answer, with Logic and Reason, why it is that Whites must be Responsible for what some White People did some Hundreds and Thousands of Years ago but nothing, not even Today, do the non-whites have to be Responsible for.  Why the Double Standard?
    I understand what you’re saying but I don’t.  I don’t understand this self-hatred and desire to destroy their very own Race.
    I like to think that if someone is telling you that you and your Race is Evil, you’d question that.  I need to believe that a White Person would say, well, what about all those non-whites and the things they’ve done and still do?  What’s that?  A Blessing?

  • Anonymous

    There were four White college boys who beat up two Black men here in Kansas City last week. One of the young men is in critical condition. It made the local news here and the guys have been charged. Police beleive that the young White men were drunk at the time of the incident.

    My point is that when people are drunk, all sorts of things tend to happen. 

    • Anonymous

      Hey, give us a link! “White college boys who beat up two Black men” is definitely news, one of those rare  “man bites dog” stories. I hope the circumstances were such that I will enjoy reading it. I’m prepared to possibly be disappointed, but one can hope. 

    • Anonymous

      Impossible. It would be national news if it really happened. Send a link or admit you are lying.

  • Anonymous

    Good work on emailing the author.

    I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. White parents’ reactions in these cases are at root reactions of fear, of possible repercussions if they step outside The Church of PC, and all the kumbaya stuff is just a signal that they are still faithful members of the Church.

    We live under a regime of terror, and I’ve made it plain that IMO the overall program of that anti-White regime is White Genocide.

  • Anonymous

    In raw numbers white may use more drugs.  However, most black guys smoke weed.  Per capita, there is no way whites do more drugs. 

    Also, and I think you touched on this, blacks get high and go out and get in trouble (which they are already prone to) and whites don’t…as much.    In other words, blacks are more violent sober, and they are more violent high.  NO WONDER they get arrested more.

    Most of the cops in Detroit are black.  Most of the people they arrest are black.  Most of the judges are black.  Where is the racism there?

  • Anonymous

    The problem in Portland and in the Northwest in general is that white people are so nice and yes, left inclined in general – although there are plenty of conservative to be found, but NOT race realists.  The church to population ratio is high and people tend to be naive and forgiving of everything.  I can’t the times I’ve read or seen news footage of another family offering forgiveness to their attackers or son’s or daughter’s killers in court.  Whites up here are just too naive and convinced of the Christian ethic of forgiveness, as if it were a guaranteed trip to heaven no matter what else they might do in their lives.

    • Anonymous

      You just can’t help yourself can you?

      http://www.gallup.com/poll/125999/mississippians-go-church-most-vermonters-least.aspx
       
      Look it’s not news to anyone who’s been around here long enough that you strongly dislike Christians and their faith, but only eight states have lower rates of church attendance than Washington, and one of them is Oregon, so your favorite punching bag doesn’t hold up as an explanation for what you’re describing. 
       
      I’ve lived here all my life and this has always been the case with Northwesterners and church attendance.  It’s not a new thing.  The other day you savaged someone for making statements without facts or something like that; you just did the same here didn’t you? 

  • Anonymous

    They attack in packs or sucker punch out of fear that a one on one might result in being beat by a white is too much and their pride will not allow that possibility.

  • Anonymous

    Good points.  First, I would protect her.  I find her existence of immense value to me and you, and all whites.

     Second, what will become of her is what has become of hundreds of thousands of white women in the past five decades; raped, murdered, suckered into prostitution and drug abuse…. dropping into low life styles due to lowered self esteem,… provide easy pickings for non-white men.  In other words, the stuff we see going on all around us everyday.

  • Anonymous

    Give her time.  It is even possible that the men here will begin to realize what they’ve done and feel a little less than men and good fathers.  It takes time for people to change, especially against such political tides as we have, but more and more white people are waking up.  Now if whites can only accept each other…..

  • Anonymous

    Outstanding observation. Sick, twisted but all too true. Their collectivist utopian ideology trumps everything, even their own children.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Veronica-Doderlein/100000731567716 Veronica Doderlein

    This incident doesn’t surprise me.  It takes a certain kind of courage to call a spade a spade (pardon the pun) and most white people are so terrified of being accused of racism that they will sooner sacrifice their own daughter than stand and declare that the emperor has no clothes.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/GenXinOz GenX ANZAC

    Zorro the story you mention sounds very similar to another one regarding a ”  California activist and ‘anarchist'(careful what you wish for) Kirsten Brydum”.
    http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jan/31/nation/na-anarchist31  
    Kirsten traveled to New Orleans after Katrina to ‘help out’ (after stopping off at various murder hot-spots along the way on her anti capitalism tour), to only end up getting shot four times in the face for her troubles. 
    It appears that robbery was the motive, there were no witnesses or arrests made in this case, with the overkill violent component , one can only speculate to what the race the perpetrator was.
    The parents of the victim in this case were from Portland,Oregon, hey isn’t that the same place that this MAX assault took place? But likewise the parents were focused on forgiveness.
    In an e-mail message, she said her younger daughter told her that Kirsten “would
    have been more about forgiveness than punishment for this crime, and focusing
    more on the issue of violence against women and rehabilitating the criminal.”

    But then if Amy Biehl is the poster child for “stupid color blind liberal murder victims”, then her parents are equally contenders for poster child status as the “stupidest parents of deceased color blind liberal murder victims” (I don’t mean to sound so callous, but even sympathy has its limits).

    These people founded the Amy Biehl Foundation Trust that accepts charity from all over the world and strive to empower black youths mainly through after-school programs with activities like music, dance, drama, sports, crafts and HIV/AIDS peer education.

    And get this…… they gave paid employment (jobs) to four of their own daughter’s killers!!!
    Read here…
     http://mspoliticalcommentary.blogspot.com/2011/10/lesson-to-liberals-we-only-saw-her-skin.html

    On forgiveness, the sentiment in the quote “To err is human; to forgive, divine” is a little too grandiose and ‘other worldly’ for me, I prefer the old testament “eye for an eye mentality” or at least “do onto others….”.

  • Anonymous

     Just the fact that there are numerous black on white beatings is evidence enough to suspect a racial component and anybody who can’t see that isn’t playing with a full deck.
     
    And anybody who doesn’t know that blacks are encouraged to blame whites for all their inabilities to the point of hatred has his head buried deep in the sand.
     
    This is a man who is a fool,  and he has raised a daughter who is
    as naive and dimwitted as he is.

  • Zorro

    Then post it on White Nationalist Tube .com.

  • Anonymous

    I grew up in the South, and experienced bullying from the middle-working class kids (like me) in elementary school and junior high, and from the lower income kids in the 10th grade—until I gained 20 lbs through exercise and diet, and later another 20 lbs; after which I had a few “scrapes” with guys about my age.  All those guys were white like me.  Significantly, the public school kids I went to were mixed in social class, all white, and the toughest guys enforced a rule of “no ganging up” on anyone as that was seen as a sign of weakness and moral inferiority; as was picking a fight with a lessor opponent.  I saw several and heard first hand accounts of many instances where a known fighter stepped in to help the victim of a bully.  As a 200+ lb. adult, I have fended off several attempts at bullying from black men on work crews and in public places.  At various ages, I have also met several black and numerous white men who were mild mannered due to their Christian beliefs, as well as many who were first and foremost rank narcissists. 

    I’m inclined to see adolescent peer culture, lower class culture, and race as cumulative interacting factors, i.e., some teens (and adults) are prone to aggression due to immaturity, worsened by culture and elements of psychopathy, and worst when racism is involved.  Although any one such factor may operate in a given case, large numbers of poor racist youths is always potentially dangerous.  There is little to choose from between being confronted by the worst examples of any race-class population, other than a slight potential advantage from being of the same race and the risk of a huge disadvantage in being from different races