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Australians Don’t Want More People—Poll

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AAP, March 1, 2010

THE public has rejected plans to massively boost Australia’s population.

The federal government wants to increase the population from 22 million to 35 million by 2050, largely through immigration.

But a poll has found three-quarters of respondents think Australia does not have the services or infrastructure to cope with more people.

More than 60 per cent wanted immigration slowed.

And a majority of the 1000 people surveyed by Essential Research late last month thought the environment was too fragile to cope with more people, and there was not enough space for them.

The government wants to boost the population because it means more young taxpayers to pay for the high costs of an ageing population.

But the public aren’t buying the economic argument either—just over half of those surveyed thought more people would not help the economy.

The poll also found that just over half the respondents—51 per cent—approved of the government’s plan to means test the rebate for private health cover. A third of respondents opposed the plan.

The government wants to wind back the rebate for single people earning more than $75,000 and couples earning more than $150,000 a year.

Support for the move, which is in trouble in the Senate, was stronger among Labor voters and those on low and middle incomes.

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(Posted on March 5, 2010)

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1 — Question Diversity wrote at 6:23 PM on March 5:

Australia can’t support more people. In spite of its huge size, most of the island continent is not arable, and outside of a few fortunate areas, water is always a big concern. The more people you add, the more sprawled out the cities need to be, and since Australia’s big five cities (Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Brisbane and Perth) are all built on the arable land, expanding them only takes away arable land, and removes them from food production. Since Australia is a zillion miles away from anywhere, this means they have to export more food, which would start out more expensive because of the transoceanic transport costs.

2 — Civilized Neighbor wrote at 6:24 PM on March 5:

Third world immigrants don’t become taxpayers. They become tax users. So working age whites are forced to support white senior citizens as well as young non-whites.

3 — underdog wrote at 6:44 PM on March 5:

How do you say “fresh water” in Australian English?

4 — Anonymous wrote at 6:52 PM on March 5:

Australia needs to embrace nuclear power and desalination plants for water supply.

Importing food isn’t all that expensive, hell the USA gives away more food then australia could possibly need to africa every single year.

5 — q wrote at 8:53 PM on March 5:

“The government wants to boost the population because it means more young taxpayers to pay for the high costs of an ageing population.”

Too bad that immigration to boost revenue has backfired in Europe where the extra costs associated with importing warm bodies has proven to be a burden on their societies.

It makes a person wonder if these government geeks understand that the rioting, terrorism, crime, and social expenses for these third world hordes cost them far more than any benefits…if there are any benefits, which is doubtful.

I truly believe these elitists are just too stupid to know what they’re doing.

Case closed.

6 — Anonymous wrote at 12:07 AM on March 6:

A few quick thoughts:

1) The idea that high levels of immigration will counter-act an aging population is the biggest canard out there these dyas. Immigrants do not exist in a vaccuum. The immigrant brings in his own (and often elderly) dependents and these consume enormous resources.

2) Although Australia looks like a huge country on a map or atlas, its ecumene is very small. I doubt it can support such an increase.

3) EVEN IF such an increase was considered desireable, why not work to raise the birthrate instead? There would be no need for adjustments, or assimilation concerns. Just encourage Australians to have larger families.

7 — Dutchman wrote at 12:20 AM on March 6:

The elites are not stupid. The policy to reduce Whites to a minority in their homelands is a deliberate measure. The idea is to end the homogenous nature of a population to make any mass movement to resist the elites an impossibility. A racially diverse society will always have tension and conflict that the elites can manipulate to their own benefit. Divide and conquer. The citizens will distrust each other more than the authorities and the media circus will pour fuel on the fire. More and more conflict means less freedom and less everyday security. A person can’t walk down the street without looking over their shoulder. A citizen can’t speak his mind above a whisper and hopes his confidants will not rat him out to his boss. What a society we live in!! Something has to give someday.

8 — Un-PC and Proud of It! wrote at 1:02 AM on March 6:

Australia support more people? As in immigrants? Ha! Let me tell you about my niece in law’s brother - he married an Australian girl, and they now have 7 kids, because in Australia you get something like $400 per kid per month if you make under a certain amount; and my niece’s brother, bless his heart, has no intention of ever working. Why should he - his wife works, and the guv’m’t is giving them a nice support to her income, and they’re getting along just peachy. I would imagine that there are a whole lot of other folks just dying to become immigrants to Australia so they can do just like my niece’s brother….

9 — Anonymous wrote at 3:20 AM on March 6:

The government wants to boost the population because it means more young taxpayers to pay for the high costs of an ageing population.

Government and its employees - who in the United States make far more in wages and benefits than their employers, the taxpayers, do - no longer see themselves as existing to serve the people, but see the people as existing to serve them.

An EEOC lawyer in the Justice Department sees the number of real discrimination cases in decline, so he lobbies to broaden the rules of what qualifies as discrimination, and gets his department to produce biased “studies” to prove there’s all sorts of discrimination. A school district superintendent sees the number of students in his district in decline, so he supports mass immigration from the Third World to boost his head count. I can’t count the number of articles - it must be dozens - where I’ve read that immigrant populations in cities from North Dakota to Italy have “saved” the local schools in their towns (in spite of their dirt poor educational performance). Schools don’t exist to be “saved.” They don’t need to exist at all if there aren’t any children (sad as that may be) to fill the desks. Great God, our countries have gone crazy. The Civil Service system and anti-discrimination laws have made it absolutely impossible to fire our so-called “public servants.”

10 — Charles Martel wrote at 3:25 AM on March 6:

There are extra costs for an aging population, there are extra costs for a young population, there are extra costs for an increased population (think of all the roads and other infratructure that must be built). No matter what happens to the population, something will be not quite perfect. There is no perfect solution. Everything involves trade-offs. Are the costs of giving away your country to foreigners and taking it away from your own flesh and blood worth a few extra pennies a week in your old age?

If you really think so you should have your head examined.

11 — Charles Martel wrote at 3:40 AM on March 6:

Here’s a not-too-unreasonable idea - instead of bringing in immigrants to take care of the old folks, send the immigrants off to the nicer parts of Indonesia, the Phillipines and India to be taken care of by low-cost natives living in their homeland. Those countries aren’t too far from Oz, and they have great weather and beaches, just like Florida. The country saves a ton of money in health care and pension costs by having it done in places with lots of cheap labor, and the old folks get a higher bang for their buck. Hell, the Phillipines already exports tons of nurses.

12 — Dr M in Oz wrote at 4:30 AM on March 6:

Good to see that our situation is mentioned in the Amren Blog.

The general public here ARE strongly against further immigration especially from the 3rd world, Asian or Islamic Countries. Do the politicians take any notice, OF COURSE NOT!

Most migrants want to come to Sydney which is literally bursting at the seams, and yes we do have serious water shortages and have had to resort to desalination. We also have totally unaffordable house prices (in Sydney).We also have ethnic ghettos and serious ethnic crime problems as well

Outside of Sydney housing is affordable but there are few jobs especially for young people, yet the government keeps saying we need more immigrants.It has been pointed out that some 3rd world migrants are doing the terrible jobs such as working in country based meat proccessing works.

It has been pointed out that Australia is a BIG place, yes, but mainly unihabitable and huge areas have been returned to traditional owners.(That is another story…)

The government tries to sooth the race issue by saying most immigrants come from Great Britain! Not quite so, GB 18%, followed by China 17% followed by India 16% and so on.It has been noted that many migrants who arrive under UN refugee obligations often go back to the country they have escaped from for a holiday!

We have one big advantage over the UK and US re illegal migrants, we are surrounded by the Indian & Pacific Oceans.

13 — Anonymous wrote at 7:20 AM on March 6:

I see that America isn’t the only country where the government goes against the will of the people. I suggest that the people making this decision should be forced to live in the neighborhoods where these ‘immigrants’ live.

14 — Martel wrote at 8:08 AM on March 6:

I can’t decide who are more stupid, the white Brits or the white Aussies. They say they want less or no immigration from 3ird world dumps but they keep voting in their suicidal liberal sellout political parties while vilifying as “racists” (to the left’s delight) people like Pauline Hanson and others who try to save their country. Oh no, they can’t have a “right wing” or “extremist” anti-immigration political party, that would show how intolerant & racist they are. So a future with bloody ethnic & racial stiff and economic depression will be their children’s future so they can feel are nice and fuzzy good-hearted now. Stupid.

15 — olewhitelady wrote at 8:56 AM on March 6:

It’s become overly obvious that majority-white nations do not benefit from the importation of third-worlders. The latter are, as others here have detailed, a huge drain on the social system. I can only surmise that these immigrants are wanted for cheap labor (as they definitely are in the U.S.).
Why doesn’t Australia push a program to get whites from the sub-Saharan and other areas where the ethnically European are under siege?

16 — Question Diversity wrote at 10:28 AM on March 6:

12 Dr M: I understand that the cost of living in Sydney has gotten so expensive that the typical white middle to upper middle class native born white Australian has to live quite a distance away, e.g. Wollongong, to be able to have affordable housing. Some even live as far south as Nowra and commute back and forth to Sydney, a two-hour one way trip.

14 Martel: They were harassing Pauline Hanson so badly that she exiled herself to England. (I know, frying pan fire). One of the things they were hounding her about was that she appeared in a skin mag wearing very little when she was 19 years old. Well, surprise of all surprises! Here’s hoping that she’s the most successful Australia-to-England export since the soap opera Neighbours.

17 — Charles Marlow wrote at 10:50 AM on March 6:

“The government wants to boost the population because it means more young taxpayers to pay for the high costs of an ageing population.”

Although no economics expert, I’ve never bought this argument. But even if it were true, third-world immigration is a recipe for long-term disaster. The track record for multiethnic states throughout history has been an abysmal one, and yet the hostile elite of western countries continue this insane course.

18 — ciccio wrote at 11:03 AM on March 6:

There are two segments of the population to whom an ever increasing population is essential. Government and big business. Those are the only ones, they need the mass to expand, the minute they stop expanding, they shrink and die.

19 — Michael C. Scott wrote at 1:07 PM on March 6:

Where will these 13 million live? The interior doesn’t have enough water, and the forested coastal areas have already seen enough habitat destruction that animal species are endangered.

I’d rather the world had an Australia that still had koalas and wallabies than one with 13 million extra Pakistanis gang-raping beach-goers.

20 — John Bell wrote at 1:48 PM on March 6:

Australians have the Australian Protectionist Party - join it, donate to it, vote for it, leaflet for it - and you never know, your government may actually start to take notice.

Australia has the great misfortune to have a Labour government, but it was the Labour Party, a century and more ago, which agitated for the White Australia policy (of blessed memory) so as to protect white workers from cheap foreign labour. The irony of it - rather like the U.S.Democratic party of yesteryear being pro-slavery, pro-confederate, pro-segregation.

21 — Jeff wrote at 4:02 PM on March 6:

TAKE ACTION AGAINST SUCH POLITICIANS.

1. Australia is a democracy. The elected reps are supposed to obey the people and carry out their will. That is their job. That is what they are elected for.
2. The public does not want more immigration. The pubic decides.
3. Politicians who defy the will of the people are doing so because they must be taking bribes. In essence they are:

a. engaging in criminal breach of trust.
b. dereliction of duty.
c. insubordination to the will of their employers (their public).
d. Treason.


Solution:

1. Amend consitution to allow national referenda.
2. Ban immigration through national referenda.
3. Try govt. servants who did not obey their masters (the people) for treason, criminal breach of trust, and corruption and crime against humanity (allowing in immigration).

22 — white advocate - Canada wrote at 9:26 PM on March 6:

“We must hang together, gentlemen … else, we shall most assuredly hang separately”, said Benjamin Franklin. It’s obvious that patriotic whites are being attacked by a divide and conquer strategy. We are taught to feel isolated in our own countries and not express solidarity with fellow whites in other countries. We can greatly increase our strength if we support white organizations in other countries as well as our own. What happens to whites in Australia or Britain affects the fate of whites in Canada or the US.

23 — Anonymous wrote at 9:28 PM on March 6:

A few posters have mentioned the issue of arable land and fresh water as limiting factors on the australia population.

You have to be really careful here. The world is on the cusp of nuclear fusion power…..very cheap, portable, virtually unlimited centralized power that does not pollute. They have a WORKING reactor already. Soon (couple of years maybe) they will have the prototype of a usable energy source. How long until that is mass produced? Not long.

My point is such a thing makes large scale desalination doable, even cheap. That is a BIG problem for a place like australia where the government wants mass third world immigration but can’t afford to import the food or produce the water.

Unless you settle this issue politically, now, you might wake up to find yourself displaced overnight. The excuse they will use is that the “livable” percentage of australia has expanded dramatically so there is now room for everyone.

24 — Anonymous wrote at 12:31 AM on March 7:


— Dutchman wrote at 12:20 AM on March 6:


“A racially diverse society will always have tension and conflict that the elites can manipulate to their own benefit. Divide and conquer. The citizens will distrust each other more than the authorities and the media circus will pour fuel on the fire. More and more conflict means less freedom and less everyday security.”

While I totally agree with you Dutchman, I’ve never been able to understand how the “Elites” propose to go on ruling things when they’ve successfully eliminated the remaining Whites. I’d imagine that they would also be flushed down the very toilet that they created.

25 — Nick the Aussie wrote at 6:44 AM on March 7:

The heading should read, ‘Australians don’t want anymore Muslim or other third world migrants’.

Australia has accepted over 7 million migrants since WW2 and also over 750,000 refugees. Most of these migrants and refugees prior to the mid 70’s assimilated into Australian society but sine the Immigration Restrictions Act 1901 was repealed in the mid 70’s there has only been disaster.

Now we over 80% of our migrant intake from the third world and the place is really starting to suffer. Over 35% of new migrants end up on the dole, rorting the taxpayer. The Fabian Labor Govt. is happy for these bludgers to come here as they are natural born Socialists and will support Labor through thick and thin.

Australians are against third world immigration and multiculturalism just like our Brothers and Sisters in other Western lands. I don’t have a problem with British, American or other white people coming here as they are similar in most ways and would find it easier to assimilate. The problem lies with the mix - too many third worlders accepted while access is denied to productive would be migrants.

Aussies pls. go to www.protectionist.net.

Good on you John Bell. Appreciate the support. Here’s to Nick Griffin and Geert Wilders kicking some left wing in the upcoming elections. At the end of the day, it is up to us - the citizens of the West to take matters into our own hands. Our left wing Govts. have destroyed so much, it is up to us to beat them.

26 — DeepakNPatel wrote at 10:35 AM on March 7:

>>>>22 — white advocate - Canada wrote at 9:26 PM on March 6. We are taught to feel isolated in our own countries and not express solidarity with fellow whites in other countries. We can greatly increase our strength if we support white organizations in other countries as well as our own

That is unlikely to happen. In my years of observing whites, I have concluded that the qualities that enabled them to build advanced civilizations, are also the same qualities that prevent whites from having racial solidarity. White individualism and nationalism, matter more than white racial solidarity, in the eyes of most whites. Whites are just too competitive at the individual and national level, that the idea that they would come together in racial unity against non-whites, is unthinkable.

When whites ruled the entire non-white world in 1913, instead of coming together with a long-term plan on how they were going to maintain their global dominance, they were too busy plotting how to undermine their fellow whites and steal their territories. In the following year, 1914, whites embarked on an orgy of slaughtering each other in Europe.

When a white man makes billions, instead of kicking back and enjoying the money he has made, he is too busy trying to make even more money. The only way he will stop trying to make more money is if he drops dead from a heart attack.

Australia is a prosperous country, and deserves admiration for its success. But Australia has always had ambitions of being a global power, and not a third-rate nation in terms of global influence. They realize that they cannot have the global influence of America and China, and they seek the status of second tier nations such as Britain, France, Germany, Japan, and Russia. But they cannot have that influence if they remain a relatively small nation of 22 million people. The elites in Australia want a nation of 35 million, and, later, 70 million.

Whites are just too fiercely competitive to be content with anything, even with a low-crime, near-paradise, such as Australia. When whites ruled the world, it wasn’t enough - they wanted to conquer and dominate each other in Europe.

Think of what would happen in the world, if whites were increasing their population at the same rate as black Africans. They would wipe out all rival races. Perhaps the white demographic decline is Mother Nature’s way of controlling a sub-species of humanity that has superior intelligence, from endangering other human species that lack the same intellectual abilities. Perhaps in the DNA code that enabled whites to put a man on the moon, there may exist a self-destruct mechanism, that exists to restore the balance in nature.

27 — Istvan wrote at 2:33 PM on March 7:

The “we need more immigrants to support the elderly” is bogus for a number of reasons, some previously stated. Another way to solve the population imbalance situation:

1) Divert resources from schools to nursing homes. There seems to be a pattern among government officials that a budget must always go up. Not true. If the school age population goes down then obviously you put less into education and more towards the elderly.

2) Innovation. Is there a way to do the same job with fewer people? If you were to watch an early 20th century film of men laying railroad track and a film of men laying track today you would be astounded at how few men are needed today. Why? Mechanization. Importing cheap labor is a very 19th century economic model. Why bring in unskilled people when many jobs could be automated. Keep in mind that one of the reasons for the growth of the middle class in first world nations is that the amount of work that one man can do is much greater now than it was one hundred years ago. How many men does it take to build a car now versus fifty years ago? Before I was born my mother worked in the bookkeeping department of a large Philadelphia insurance company. She worked in a huge room filled with woman, sitting at desks with adding machines, keeping books (I saw a photo, incredible). Today that is all done by a computer run by some technicians and a few data entry clerks. Even data entry clerks are going away thanks to handwriting recognition technology and bar code technology.

3) Many jobs, however, must still be filled by people. Many unskilled jobs, by necessity, still exist. Most countries have a NATIVE born pool of lower intelligence people who frequently end up on the government dole. Why can’t they perform those jobs? Why do we need to import janitors and scrub women? Or busboys? Or lawn keepers? We don’t! Young people in high school/college, welfare recipients, non-violent offenders and even the mildly retarded can all do those jobs. There should be no welfare, that would force the able bodied to have to do the jobs “no one” want s to do. As for the retarded, many are capable of handling simple jobs and would love to work and have a career, even if it was a wash and fold job in a hotel laundry. And if we want to reduce recidivism jobs for convicts are an important necessity. And can you explain to me why I have to buy stamps from a foreign born postal clerk? You mean to tell me there are no Americans (or Australians, or Brits, or…..) who would be capable of working behind the counter of a post office?

4) In the US (and I would bet Australia as well) as huge number of government employees are foreign born. Why? There is always unemployment, so why should whites have to pay confiscatory taxes to pay people from foreign counties to do government jobs? There should be a constitutional ban on any foreign born person (even if naturalized) from working for any local, state or federal agency or department. If these people are so important to our economy, if they contribute so much more than they take in government services (as our leaders tell us) then there is no need for them to take civil service positions. None! If we were to believe government propaganda on how important these people are as “tax payers” then letting these people take tax payer supported jobs is counter-productive since they came here to be tax contributors.

5) Finally, it is time Australia developed a nuclear deterrent. The Aussies do not need enough atomic bombs to destroy the world, just enough so that any nation (such as China) that felt Australia was an easy target would pay a terrible price for an invasion, even if they ultimately won. With a nuclear deterrent you don’t need to be the biggest or baldest, just bad enough to make a war unprofitable. Taiwan should do the same if they value independence.

28 — Anonymous wrote at 4:02 PM on March 7:

Very encouraging.

Unfortunately, the globalist elite won’t accept any wealthy nation attempting to assert its sovereignty or identity against mass immigration.

I believe, one way or another, Australia will be swamped with third-world effluent, like the United States, Canada, and other European/Anglo-Saxon nations.

29 — Anonymous wrote at 4:08 PM on March 7:

The notion that racial solidarity doesn’t matter to Europeans is a post-Enlightenment chimera.

Unfortunately, Europeans led the world with the Enlightenment, but unlocked forces that they couldn’t fully comprehend or control.

There’s still hope for Europeans, however.

I’ll also add that there’s plenty of blame for “them” — you know, the people we don’t talk about on AmRen. ;)

30 — Istvan wrote at 6:59 PM on March 7:

If Australia needs 13 million more people they could easily get 5 million whites from southern Africa.

31 — jdavis wrote at 7:51 PM on March 7:

I would like to read or visit someday when all of us are dead and gone and our countries are depending on our replacements to support the country.

Our replacements being the illegals made legal and the immigrant being brought in at record pace throughout the Euro world. Do politicans really believe they can sustain a country on what it has taken hundreds of years for us to evolve too. What fools.

Politicans only want the power, the vote, and the control of dimwits. That’s there “crack” or opiate of choice.

32 — white advocate - Canada wrote at 9:19 PM on March 7:

#26 Deepak, while whites might be less predisposed to groupishness than other races, there are plenty of cases where whites have formed tight groups. The mechanisms that enable whites to do this might also be different than from other races. Examples of white groups include Roman Catholics, Puritans, Nazism, occupational guilds, political parties, universities, companies, nationalities, and ethnic groups. If what you are saying is true (that whites are too individualistic) then why did it take massive fraud in intellectual movements to convince whites to ignore racial interests? Why has their been so much repression on whites from expressing their opinions or freely associating with fellow whites?

Extracting lessons from 1913 is perilous. I don’t think whites at that time were worried in the least about non-white parts of the world competing with them. So there wasn’t any strong incentive to form a white racial identity that transcended national identities. As for Australia, it should reconsider it’s global power ambitions and settle for being an important part of the Western bloc of nations. Finally, I wouldn’t impute any motives to Mother Nature; I don’t think scientists would support such speculation.

33 — SKIP wrote at 9:31 PM on March 7:

I’ve never been able to understand how the “Elites” propose to go on ruling things when they’ve successfully eliminated the remaining Whites. I’d imagine that they would also be flushed down the very toilet that they created.

Right you are, the politicians just don’t seem to get that.

34 — Anders wrote at 2:00 AM on March 8:

Martel: I can’t decide who are more stupid, the white Brits or the white Aussies. They say they want less or no immigration from 3ird world dumps but they keep voting in their suicidal liberal sellout political parties while vilifying as “racists”

Anders: One problem is that a lot of Aussie workers are convinced that Labor is still the working-mans’ party, which is of course completely untrue. Not only that, a lot of there same workers would never consider voting for another party.

35 — Anonymous wrote at 4:18 AM on March 8:

Spread the mysery and dysfunction of the third world accross the civilized world, like rancid butter on bread. Spread it far and wide, making sure no corner is untouched.
Who is doing this?
Australia cannot even support its current population, being mostly desert of the most arid sort. Unfarmable land. the arable portions of the continent will be as crowded as New York city. So much for the “Lucky Land.” Wow, Australia is going down even quicker than the USA. What became of the white men there?
The country will explode in violence as famine sweeps accross the land.
Oh boy, such a great tomorrow to look forward to.

36 — Nick the Aussie wrote at 5:06 AM on March 8:

The heading should read, ‘Australians don’t want anymore muslim or other third world migrants’.

Australia has accepted over 7 million migrants since WW2 and also over 750,000 refugees. Most of these migrants and refugees prior to the mid 70’s assimilated into Australian society but sine the Immigration Restrictions Act 1901 was repealed in the mid 70’s there has only been disaster.

Now we over 80% of our migrant intake from the third world and the place is really starting to suffer. Over 35% of new migrants end up on the dole, rorting the taxpayer. The Fabian Labor Govt. is happy for these bludgers to come here as they are natural born Socialists and will support Labor through thick and thin.

Australians are against third world immigration and multiculturalism just like our Brothers and Sisters in other Western lands. I don’t have a problem with British, Amercian or other white people coming here as they are similar in most ways and would find it easier to assimilate. The problem lies with the mix - too many third world rorters accepted while access is denied to productive would be migrants.

Aussies pls. go to www.protectionist.net.

Good on you John Bell. Appreciate the support. Here’s to Nick Griffin and Geert Wilders kicking some left wing butt in the upcoming elections. At the end of the day, it is up to us - the citizens of the West to take matters into our own hands. Our left wing Govts. have destroyed so much, it is up to us to destroy them.

37 — white is right, black is whack wrote at 8:20 AM on March 8:

There seems to be a pattern in every white country: let in millions of non-whites every year, do it against the will of the white citizens, and then say ‘it’s for diversity’ or ‘they do jobs the Australians/AMericans/Italians/Germans/Brits/French/Dutch, etc won’t do.’

38 — Anonymous wrote at 10:49 AM on March 8:

Deepak - ‘When a white man makes billions, instead of kicking back and enjoying the money he has made, he is too busy trying to make even more money. The only way he will stop trying to make more money is if he drops dead from a heart attack.’

This could far more easily sum up Chinese and Indians, who go after every last cent and will step over bodies in the process. To me when the white man made billions the liberalism and loss of sense of self-preservation took over. Not too unlike how the 3rd generation of a rich family squanders the fortune, or how that saying goes. The hunger and the determination is just gone and everyone is invited in to pick at the remains.

As for Australia, I don’t think it’s in the Australian psyche to want to be a world power. In the current Prime Minister’s head, maybe, but the average Aussie is far too disinterested in such matters.

39 — Fed Up wrote at 2:21 PM on March 8:

So just how would millions of third-world immigrants, many having little or no marketable skills or education… contributed any significant amounts to tax coffers? Or are we not supposed to be able to think that far ahead? Given the reality immigrants are invariably a massive drain on a nation’s treasury for almost life-long support having to be provided by the government.

40 — Fed Up wrote at 2:23 PM on March 8:

Duh, this would not be supposed to resemble a pyramid scheme fraud, would it? I mean what does Australia have to do? Increase its population by 50% every decade or two, as its population ages? What is supposed to come first? A nation bursting at the seams with a couple of billion immigrants… or an inability to attract yet another generation of third-world immigrants?

41 — Fed Up wrote at 2:26 PM on March 8:

Maybe the most “best solution” being for Australia to export (exile) its politicians instead of allowing still more immigraiton from third-world primitives.

42 — Anders wrote at 4:07 AM on March 9:

Deepak:But Australia has always had ambitions of being a global power, and not a third-rate nation in terms of global influence.

Anders: Deepak, that’s a load of rubbish! Who told you that one…Our airforce would be hard up flattening a village!
Our police force in Victoria can’t even stamp out ‘racism’…

Deepak:’They’ realize that they cannot have the global influence of America and China, and they seek the status of second tier nations such as Britain, France, Germany, Japan, and Russia.

Anders: Who, what or whom are ‘they?’ Every leader of Oz knows what the rest of the world thinks of us (as does every ‘ordinary’ Australian). What was that lovely leader of Singapore’s name that called us the ‘White trash of Asia?’ Why do you think we value our alliance with G.B and U.S.A? Maybe our population will wake up, stop voting for these clowns and send all of these whining ethnics back to their homelands to sort out their own mess, because I tell ye; there’s nothing Aussies dislike more than people coming over here to live and whinging and complaining about how awful we are!


43 — Anonymous wrote at 7:24 AM on March 10:

If Australia TRULY needs more people (an unproven point), why not try very hard to raise the birthrate? All sorts of programs and grants could be made available to try doing so. I also believe Australia should acquire nuclear weapons. Just enough to act as the ultimate deterrent. The country has plenty of sparsely occupied land for this. Or it could use the submarine route like the U.K. does.

44 — Nick the Aussie wrote at 7:37 PM on March 13:

Reply to Deepak, no.26.

“Australia is a prosperous country, and deserves admiration for its success. But Australia has always had ambitions of being a global power, and not a third-rate nation in terms of global influence. They realize that they cannot have the global influence of America and China, and they seek the status of second tier nations such as Britain, France, Germany, Japan, and Russia. But they cannot have that influence if they remain a relatively small nation of 22 million people. The elites in Australia want a nation of 35 million, and, later, 70 million”……

Global ambitions with a population of 22 million? Even 2nd tier status with above mentioned nations with much larger populations is a joke and unbelievable. Australia nearly doubling its population in less than 40 years would exhaust Australia financially, socially and racially. The only Australians supporting a massive increase in population is the loony left, the Labor Party and dysfunctional academics.

Australia had an ‘Immigration Restrictions Act 1901’ in place until the mid 70’s. Revoking this legislation was one of the dumbest moves made by a PM. There were exceptions with this so called ‘white Australia’ policy. War brides from Asia and also a small amount of workers were permitted to reside in Australia. Now restrictions have gone, the place is starting to look and feel third world. Australia was until recently one of few Western nations left not issuing capacious temporary visas to third world workers. The previous Liberal Govt. brought in Visa 457 and the country has been flooded with cheap and inferior labor. This foreign labor has also brought wages down, conditions down and ultimately our standard of living.

“Whites are just too fiercely competitive to be content with anything, even with a low-crime, near-paradise, such as Australia. When whites ruled the world, it wasn’t enough - they wanted to conquer and dominate each other in Europe”…….

Didn’t the Mongols rule China on more than one occasion? Didn’t the Han Chinese rule Vietnam for long periods of time? Didn’t the Khmers have a vast empire stretching over South East Asia? Didn’t the Imperial Japanese invade Manchuria and China? Didn’t the Japanese also invade Korea, Taiwan and the Philippines?

ALL EXAMPLES OF ASIANS TRYING TO OR DOMINATING THEIR OWN RACE.

On the sub-continent India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Pakistan are similar racially but have fought each other through time to dominate. Didn’t partitioning happen, where is the pan-Dravidian love or solidarity?

45 — Nick the Aussie wrote at 7:44 PM on March 13:

Anders, no.42

“Our police force in Victoria can’t even stamp out ‘racism’”…where have the Police ever stamped out racism?

The racism that exists in Victoria is much greater between different multicultural groups. Most the the attackers of Indian students were African, Asian and Islanders not whites.

Racism exists everywhere in different forms. Western nations are the least racist compared to non-white countries. Multiculturalism is a racist totalitarian system that denies any debate or input by the majority. The agenda is tailored for the minorities that excludes the majority. Now, that’s racism!



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