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Pennsauken Works to Discourage ‘White Flight’

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James Osborne, Philadelphia Inquirer, February 26, 2010

When Angela Freeman moved to Pennsauken in the mid-1980s, she was among a wave of black teachers hired to reflect the township’s changing racial demographics.

The idea was that African American educators could better relate to the small but growing number of black students at the high school. Freeman felt welcome enough, but she noticed that any discussion of race was conducted in code, with teachers and administrators avoiding words like black and white.

It was always “the school is changing,” Freeman said. “One day I said, ‘What do you mean?’ and there was silence. But I knew what they meant.”

These days, the Camden County inner-ring suburb—where minorities, including significant numbers of Latinos and Asians, are now half of the population—is engaged in a public discussion about the role of race in its future.

The issue is how to stanch the outflow of the town’s white residents while creating a welcoming environment for everyone.

Fifteen years ago, residents began an effort to try to stem the “white flight” that had afflicted many U.S. cities in the 1960s and ’70s and was threatening Pennsauken. The strategy, as refined over the years: Market the town’s diversity as an asset.

Tours led by the township for prospective residents emphasize Pennsauken’s multiculturalism, and new-resident meetings encourage interaction across racial and class lines.

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In 1980, white residents accounted for 91 percent of Pennsauken’s population. By 2000, 60 percent of the town’s 36,000 residents were white. In those 20 years, there had been a doubling of minority residents, drawn by the same relatively low property taxes and proximity to Philadelphia that had attracted families for decades.

In 1994, at the height of the white exodus—and the year the township elected its first black councilman—local residents Lynn Cummings and Harold Adams created the grassroots group Neighbors Empowering Pennsauken (NEP) to improve relations between established residents and the minority families moving in.

In 2001, the township created a commission on integration, phased out NEP, and committed public money to billboards and other efforts designed to market Pennsauken’s diversity to white families looking for an alternative to more homogenous suburbs.

“People were asking why I, a black man, wanted more white people living here. It wasn’t an easy sell,” said Adams, 50, a real estate assessor. “We were coming at it from a practical standpoint.”

According to studies, he said, the market value of homes tends to decline as more minorities move into a neighborhood. That translates into lower revenue from property taxes.

“When a town gets below 50 percent white, it makes it very difficult for the town to maintain services,” Adams said.

That spiraling down is mostly the result of paranoia, says Nathaniel Norment Jr., chairman of the African American Studies department at Temple University.

“It’s something that’s created based on white people’s fear of being close to black people,” Norment said. “There’s this myth we have that blacks’ moving in will change the social environment.”

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“Some people of color had feelings that if whites wanted to leave and not live next to people of color, you should let them do as they want to do,” said resident Darlene Hannah-Collins, 53, who is black.

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According to a 2008 estimate by the U.S. Census Bureau, the township’s white population has declined by 22 percent since 2000. The census conducted this year will be more definitive.

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“When you see the low property values, you can figure people of color are living there,” Dobson [Eric Dobson, a planning consultant who has done work for the township and sits on the school board] said. “It’s troubling when you have an overwhelming number of one particular race buying in a place. That’s the sign of moving toward segregation.”

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Fifty-six percent of Pennsauken High students failed to meet basic proficiency standards in math last year and 34 percent failed to do so in English—5 and 7 percentage points below the state averages. School officials attributed the scores to the influx of students who had not passed through Pennsauken’s elementary and middle school programs.

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Email James Osborne at jaosborne@phillynews.com.

(Posted on February 26, 2010)

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1 — Anonymous wrote at 6:11 PM on February 26:

“Market the town’s diversity as an asset.”
This one doesn’t even need a comment

“There’s this myth we have that blacks’ moving in will change the social environment.”

Yeah, a myth. Aside from the falling test scores cited at the bottom, there is always, always the inevitable increase in crime, in addition to the more minor annoyances of increased noise, blacks standing around in groups a blocking the paths of everyone else and other intimidation tactics (nasty stares, etc.)

Real estate values fall because no one wants to live near them. No one wants to work with them. No one wants them as customers.

2 — whiteraven wrote at 6:16 PM on February 26:

“It’s something that’s created based on white people’s fear of being close to black people,” Norment said. “There’s this myth we have that blacks’ moving in will change the social environment.”

Thinking that blacks’ moving in will NOT change the social environment and calling the social transformation a myth, is why this mentally challenged man will never understand what the real world is all about.

It is these kinds of views from blacks that so disturb white people, because they blaringly reveal that blacks just don’t get it, and they regard anybody who can’t see deplorable black behavior, black crime and violence, and crude, loud, disgusting attitudes, as typical of the black mindset, and they want to move as far away from blacks as they can get.

They not only want us to stay in order to keep things running, but they want us to take their abuse without complaining.

For the most part, blacks are children who are incapable of creating and maintaining an efficient society.

3 — Ye Profiled Albas wrote at 6:21 PM on February 26:

That’s racial profiling. Any time non whites recognize that there are some benefits to living among whites, such as easy victims of robbery, rape, and murder, as well as punitive property taxes on white residents, then non whites are racially profiling whites for particular kinds of treatment based on race.

Eric Holder testified that the hate crimes laws were only intended to protect certain classes of minorities. Even though the black thugs who racially profiled and then attacked and killed white Julie Love, white Shannon Christian, white Eve Carson, white Emily Haddock, white Anne Pressley, and white Kristen Warneke, they will not be charged with hate crimes because these white girls were not the protected class, but they were the targeted class, just like your white mothers, sisters, and daughters are.

Blacks racially profile whites through targeted violence by afrovoodoo thugs and targeted taxation by privileged afrovoodoo politicians.

4 — Question Diversity wrote at 6:26 PM on February 26:

If there’s no such thing as race, and it’s all a social construct, and if you think the races are fundamentally equal, which I’m sure most of the players in this article will claim they believe, then why does it matter where white people are or aren’t?

5 — Lex Concord wrote at 6:52 PM on February 26:

“We were coming at it from a practical point.” Does it occur to him that the people who were leaving were acting from a “practical point” also? If the increased presence of blacks in the neighborhood made conditions better, or at least didn’t make them any worse, does he think people would go through all the hassle of changing residences, many of them leaving the place they were born? Does he think that they want to have to drive further back and forth to work, or even change jobs? For all their talk about transparency, “open dialogue” and addressing the issues, blacks don’t want to see or discuss the elephant in the room, or in this case the neighborhood: when blacks move in in numbers, the quality of life invariably goes down, and those who are productive and law abiding, black and white, want to get the heck out.

6 — J Erie wrote at 6:54 PM on February 26:

“It’s something that’s created based on white people’s fear of being close to black people,” Norment said. “There’s this myth we have that blacks’ moving in will change the social environment.”

It’s not a myth Norment. Face it; blacks are overrepresented in virtually every social pathology in America. They are far more likely than anyone else to commit crime. That’s reason enough for whites to want to keep their distance. Furthermore it’s perfectly normal for anyone to want to be around people of their own race. If blacks were tested for their willingness to move beyond race they’d fail miserably. People need to stop holding whites to a higher standard.

7 — sbuffalonative wrote at 7:04 PM on February 26:

Blacks are the true ‘white supremacists’.

While they exaggerate and outright lie about ‘white racism’ and ‘hate’, they do everything they can to be around whites because they see whites as their only hope.

However, proximity to whites is not working to improve their overall condition. Being near whites can’t help them bridge thousands of years of evolution.

8 — Anonymous wrote at 7:06 PM on February 26:

” ‘When a town gets below 50 percent white, it makes it very difficult for the town to maintain services,’ Adams said.”

What will happen when America drops to belove 50% white? It’ll be hard to maintain services nationwide.

9 — Janelle wrote at 7:10 PM on February 26:

“That spiraling down is mostly the result of paranoia, says Nathaniel Norment Jr., chairman of the African American Studies department at Temple University.

“It’s something that’s created based on white people’s fear of being close to black people,” Norment said. “There’s this myth we have that blacks’ moving in will change the social environment.”
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Paranoia? I think not. Try reality, Mr. Norment.

When a city becomes a mini-Detroit, the social environment WILL change because all the social ills that white families dread end-up right in their neighborhood: an increase in crime, poor schools, low property values, inefficient government services, and a lack of a cohesive community.

Perhaps the last paragraph in this article said it best:

“Fifty-six percent of Pennsauken High students failed to meet basic proficiency standards in math last year and 34 percent failed to do so in English—5 and 7 percentage points below the state averages.”
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And these folks wonder why whites are moving out in droves?!

10 — The Last White Man Standing wrote at 7:11 PM on February 26:

From the article; “Fifteen years ago, residents began an effort to try to stem the “white flight” that had afflicted many U.S. cities in the 1960s and ’70s and was threatening Pennsauken.”

It is amazing some people see losing White folks as a threat, but do not see an increase in minorities as a threat. I would like to see these people walk through nearby Camden at night, or certain areas of nearby Philadelphia after dark. They will see Pennsauken’s future when the minority is the majority.

“When a town gets below 50 percent white, it makes it very difficult for the town to maintain services,” Adams said.”

No kidding. When the number of freeloading blacks outnumber the White working class, it is difficult to maintain the lifestyle of the black underclass. This article is basically saying that minorities can’t survive without hard working Whites to support them. Unfortunately, the article uses classic misdirection by blaming “White flight” instead laying the blame where it belongs, on under performing minorities.

11 — John PM wrote at 7:15 PM on February 26:

“‘When a town gets below 50 percent white, it makes it very difficult for the town to maintain services,’ Adams said.”

How utterly laughable, Comrade Adams!

Any entity that is majority white, that falls below the 75% to 70% white baseline, it is in real trouble of becoming a minority gutted chunk of wreckage. That is almost like a law of nature; or put another way, sell “diversity” and “multiculturalism” as tenaciously as you like when engaging in real estate “development,” but don’t honestly expect equally “vibrant” enrichment in return.

Live in a fantasy world if you must, but do not expect others (particularly the whites you demand a free lunch from) to do the same. The reality is that for whites approaching anything other than a 70% majority status, life becomes a living hell. You see, nonwhites as a minority of anything greater than 30% do not just “change the social environment,” they destroy it like a rainbow atomic bomb.

It is at the 30% or greater mark, that nonwhites make their ridiculous demands for extra-“equality” and begin to act as abhorrently vicious as they can, to “get what is coming to them.”

As always, God help us all!

12 — Anonymous wrote at 7:21 PM on February 26:

“In 1980, white residents accounted for 91 percent of Pennsauken’s population. By 2000, 60 percent of the town’s 36,000 residents were white. In those 20 years, there had been a doubling of minority residents…”

So in 1980, minorities were 9 percent. Twenty years later, they were 40 percent. How is that a “doubling”?

13 — flatulent flamingo wrote at 7:29 PM on February 26:

People live happier, learn better, and are simply more comfortable with THEIR OWN KIND. These stupid diversiculites don’t every get the truth - the vast majority of us whites do not socialize with blacks and vice versa. We do socialize with some Mexicans and Asians. But this pie in the sky colorblind society that dreamers envisioned in the 1960’s has not materialized and never will. In TV commercials you always see a token black person at the party - but you will rarely if ever see that in real life.

14 — Jake wrote at 7:39 PM on February 26:

Ah yes, it must be the geographic location which makes the blacks violent and prone to crime. Move them a mile away and they will be successful members of society….

15 — Anonymous wrote at 8:02 PM on February 26:

To think these are the kinds of people who go around saying how whites are evil racists and now they want to prevent “white flight”?

Besides, I thought their definition of diversity meant less whites.

16 — Tom Iron wrote at 8:14 PM on February 26:

Yup, I know Pennsauken. Used to be a nice place. It never was a high end town, just a working man’s town. Now it’s a down and out place and it’s either an Abbott (on the dole - funded by the state taxpayers) school district or it soon will be. It’s become part of “Greater” Camden now.

Tom Iron…

17 — Anonymous wrote at 8:14 PM on February 26:

“Some people of color had feelings that if whites wanted to leave and not live next to people of color, you should let them do as they want to do,” said resident Darlene Hannah-Collins, 53, who is black.

Finally, something we can both agree on. Now if only we could find a way to get them to stop chasing us wherever we go.

As a side note, most of the comments from whites on the article are fantastic and follow a common thread - “myth, what myth? try fact!”(in response to Nathaniel Norment Jr.)

18 — Anonymous wrote at 8:31 PM on February 26:

Fifteen years ago, residents began an effort to try to stem the “white flight” that had afflicted many U.S. cities in the 1960s and ’70s and was threatening Pennsauken. The strategy, as refined over the years: Market the town’s diversity as an asset.


Brilliant marketing strategy there, guys, best of luck with that one. Your plan is as if Ford were to introduce a new car by advertising that it’s “From the people who brought you the Edsel!”

19 — Anonymous wrote at 9:02 PM on February 26:

For the record, I checked the demographics of Pennsauken Township schools from the US Department of Education. http://nces.ed.gov/ccd/schoolsearch/

Overall, the student population as of 2008 was:
1061 whites
2052 blacks
1963 hispanics
492 other

The percentage works out to 19% white for Pennsauken’s public schools.

20 — Wayne Engle wrote at 9:13 PM on February 26:

Typically opinionated tripe written by a bleeding-heart liberal newspaper reporter from the East Coast. Was there one White person quoted in the story, other than Ms. Cummings, who is 110 percent in favor of the darkening of Pennsauken? If there was, I missed it. The remark by the black studies professor about White flight being caused by “paranoia” was laughably wrong-headed.

And there wasn’t one ounce of real analysis in this story — only an attempt to convince everyone of how wonderful a “multicultural community” could be if we racist old White people would only give it a chance. Ha! Make me laugh!

21 — Anonymous wrote at 9:28 PM on February 26:

Oh yes, keep the whites in the area to help the blacks. However, if blacks are such an asset then why do they need whites at all???

This is a stupid game that is being played over and over again in many areas of the United States. The outcome is always the same, yet there are too many fools who believe that it will be different this time around.

22 — oops, the brainwashing wore off... wrote at 10:43 PM on February 26:

Every so often I get to enjoy an Amren-supplied comedy that makes me laugh out loud—and this is definitely one of them.

A few of the low-lights:

“Fifteen years ago, residents began an effort to try to stem the “white flight” that had afflicted many U.S. cities in the 1960s and ’70s and was threatening Pennsauken. The strategy, as refined over the years: Market the town’s diversity as an asset.”

—you mean playing up the circumstances that historically make whites urgently want to get out of town ASAP? Yeah, there’s a plan for sure…

And here’s some brilliance on those white devils doing just that:

“That spiraling down [of resident crackers] is mostly the result of paranoia,” says Nathaniel Norment Jr., chairman of the African American Studies department at Temple University.

“It’s something that’s created based on white people’s fear of being close to black people,” Norment said. “There’s this myth we have that blacks’ moving in will change the social environment.”

—as always, the insulting misuse of a term borrowed from psychotherapy—paranoia—by people who can charitably be called “sub-genius”. (This also goes for any use of words ending in “-phobic” or “-ist” by the Nat Norments of the world.) I would also point out to Nat that “myths” are dispelled by data—got any of that, “Chairman” Nat? I didn’t think so.

Something I appreciate more and more as time goes by: a keen grasp of the obvious. Sure enough, this guy gets it right:

“ ‘When you see the low property values, you can figure people of color are living there,’ Dobson [Eric Dobson, a planning consultant who has done work for the township and sits on the school board] said.”

—Yeah, that’s gotta be one high-powered school board there. Hey, all you Pennsauken crackers: how’s that “diversity” working out for you? And how long is your commute now?

Hilarious.


23 — Anonymous wrote at 11:23 PM on February 26:

Are there any real concrete benefits to diversity? How do you market failed schools, increased crime, falling property values and lower standards of living as something desirable and what kind of people are looking for these kinds of alternatives to homogenous suburbs and their many benefits? Even liberals, despite all their professed love for their pet minorities, live in their own segregated areas and send their children to private schools. I looked up the town thinking it was some kind of rural place in Amish country but it’s only about 7 miles from downtown Philadelphia! I’m surprised it’s still half White. The people of Pennsauken need to face the reality that their city is dying and barring a miracle, like bringing back segregation, it’s finished.

24 — Awarian wrote at 11:38 PM on February 26:

J Erie said “If blacks were tested for their willingness to move beyond race they’d fail miserably. People need to stop holding whites to a higher standard.”

But we say, “If blacks were tested for their willingness maintain racial identity, they would succeed marvelously. We need to start holding whites to the same high standard of white racial identity that we encourage in blacks.”

Since blacks are Jesse Jackson’s “moral theme of this country,” then according to leader of his race, racial consciousness is moral.

Descartes preceded his “I think, therefore I am” conclusion with the observing that a demon could not deceive him about the existence of himself if he did not exist. His capacity for being deceived was dependent upon his being in existence. You can’t be deceived if you don’t exist. You can’t be hated and harassed by blacks on account of your whiteness unless you are white.

That which they hate and harass is organic to your white identity. The white child of your white parents is hated and harassed by the black children of black parents. As they hate and harass you, you become more and more self aware and will strive more and more to distinguish yourself from them.

Whites are educated to think correctly about african americans. We are supposed to think of blacks as our equals in all respects; we are supposed to search ourselves for the evil prejudices and racism that lurks within our hearts that makes us not welcome blacks as equals or even not more desirable than own kind; we are supposed to hold ourselves accountable to them for our unearned privileges; we are supposed to want blacks as our preachers, teachers, and presidents, as our bosses and generals; we are supposed demand that blacks move into our neighborhoods and that their black sons will marry our white daughters so that we can have african american mulatto grandbabies. And most importantly, we are supposed to believe that all pathologies of crime, violence, and devolution in the “black community” are the fault of us the evil whites, who are never allowed to think or speak of something as vile and hateful as “the white community”.

But in order to receive those lessons and believe those lies, the first thing we must be is white and be the opposite of black.

Descartes offers us hope. In order for you to be deceived about race realities, you must be white. The fact that you require such special education in race matters is because of your whiteness. All efforts of teaching tolerance and changing attitudes and breaking barriers and eradicating bigotry, racism, and extremism all depend upon the existence of whiteness.

As whites are being taught about the evils of whiteness, they are being taught that they are white. Sensitivity and anti racism seminars are splendid endeavors for teaching whites to recognize their whiteness, as long as we direct the outcome of attitudes based on white self interest and not non white tyranny.

When these white-awarians see black behavior that is clearly opposed to them and when they witness the constant promotions of black self interest that are denied whites who would use the same logic of racial self interest, they can begin to have Decartesian white awakening.

I am white, therefore I am not african american. I will begin to define myself by what I am not, for african american is something to flee and not to embrace, therefore, what am I?

At that point, a white will begin to draw the distinctions between whites and blacks, and conclude that whites build civilizations and then succumb to the fatal modern white flaw of charity to outsiders without negotiated boundaries. This compulsion incapacitates whites from making rational, self interested decisions when dealing with foreign races and tribes, and we give away our own civilization to those who will destroy it and us.

But it’s not the mass of whites who do the giving away of their nation. The liberal white elites who hold power do the giving while protecting themselves from getting any of the direct consequences. When they start to suffer, and only then, can we have hope in more Decartesian white-awarians of the sort who can really make a difference for us joining our ranks.

We need to support those whites in the media whom Mark Lloyd will force to step down in the name of Diversity. The first to go will be Glenn Beck, who has the right instincts and knows much more than he’s allowed to say. But when he has nothing to lose after losing his job, he’ll tell all and can offer us hope as the kind of spokesman who will say what we are not allowed to think, and therefore our natural prejudices may flourish as a new Garden of Eden.

Prejudice is a precious and sustaining life force; cultivate it. Thank you Amren for doing your vital part in this sacred mission.

25 — Question Diversity wrote at 11:40 PM on February 26:

That spiraling down is mostly the result of paranoia, says Nathaniel Norment Jr., chairman of the African American Studies department at Temple University. n “It’s something that’s created based on white people’s fear of being close to black people,” Norment said. “There’s this myth we have that blacks’ moving in will change the social environment.”

Yet, those whites that are DRIVEN OUT (I don’t use the weasel words “flee” or “flight”) are giving up the equity they’ve built in their own houses over a long time, assuming they owned their last domicile in the “changing” community. “Paranoia” doesn’t do that, Mr. Norment. Only an unsafe neighborhood due to black and Hispanic crime would drive this.

26 — GreatNorthWoods wrote at 12:33 AM on February 27:


Once the threshold of blacks within a community exceeds about fourteen percent of the poulation, the mold has been cast for a decline in social capital, increasing crime and hostility towards whites. The speed by which this breakdown occurs is proportional to the black rate of increase and supporting factors.

For the life of me, I cannot find an example where a community, or school has actually “improved” by an influx of blacks. The effects are either neutral, or all downhill resulting in white-flight.

The problem with Pennsauken Township NJ is it’s proximity to that city or brotherly love, Killadelphia. Being an inner ring suburb leaves it wide open for all kinds of racial experimentation by facilitators and many whites won’t tolerate that for long.

GNW

27 — SKIP wrote at 1:16 AM on February 27:

TV commercials you always see a token black person at the party - but you will rarely if ever see that in real life.

And it is almost always a black male/White woman. TV commercials and the dirth of cop programs are the same and includes even the company for which I work has brochures in which their diversity claim on them is ALWAYS a black male/White female.

28 — elitist wrote at 4:31 AM on February 27:

isn’t it high time the BIG SECRET was finally revealed??

blacks do NOT hate us because of slavery, or jim crow, or discrimination.

They hate us BECAUSE THEY ARE DEPENDENT ON US. Stupid whites believe the propaganda, but blacks know the truth, and discuss it among themselves obsessively:

they hate us because they cannot get along without us, and the more we try to help them reach our level, the more they hate themselves for failing - and whites for making them feel inedequate.

they hate us for trying so hard to make society equal - and succeeding, which takes away their excuses for failure.

hence the blabber jabber from this protected and pampered minority about the “systematic racism still plaguing the US”:

it must be painful to admit that the have failed to take advantage of every opportunity to reach the American dream.

unfortunately, sweeping away the nonsense about “systematic racism” holding blacks back weill not help either:
ironically, it is the last means they have of holding onto some pride.

humiliating blacks by pointing out their mental limitations is not the solution either.

given the polarized situation in the US, there are no adults left on either side to work out a sane solution.

too bad because I have one.

29 — Big Bill wrote at 6:12 AM on February 27:

This whole white flight thing is crazy. First, it is black folks desperately escaping their own brethren who are trying to integrate the white towns.

They have abandoned their own ignorant, trashy relations to go live with whites.

Instead of being an example to their race, they want to dump them and get their kids out of nasty black schools with nasty black teachers.

Rather than invest their time and energy in bettering the black community, they want to get out and leave the festering mass they came from to rot and die.

And black people understand this. They know that the reason their communities rot is because their own upwardly mobile brethren and sistren shat on them and left.

So why do they get so upset about white people being nice and selling a lovely house at a bargain price to black people?

The reason black people get upset about this is that they came to the white community to get away from their nasty black friends and relations. Black people know that lower prices mean more black folks can and will move into the neighborhood.

This is the key: Black people do not want to live around black people and they KNOW that lower prices will let more black people move in.

It’s like the people who buy a vacation home in a nice quality area and then want to stop all further housebuilding. Why? Once they have their home, they know that each additional home makes the area more crowded and ultimately will lower their house value.

Black folks are the same way. Once they have gotten their home in a nice unspoiled white community, they want to keep all those other blacks out so they don’t spoil it.

So what is the real problem? White flight? Nope.

The problem is Black Flight. If black folks would just stay in their communities and better them instead of running off like the gutless worms they are and leaving their trashy friends and relations behind there would be no problem.

30 — olewhitelady wrote at 6:14 AM on February 27:

Articles like this one always say two things at once, almost as though the writer is sneakily trying to say something between the lines. Of course, the dichotomy is probably due to liberal writers presenting a set of facts and then stating some PC adage that contradicts them. Here, multiculturalism is said to be desirable, and then comes the statement that whites unfortunately (and wrongly) think blacks change the social environment.
After the Civil War, freed slaves began to move into small towns in the East and Midwest, but by the 1880’s and 90’s, many whites were running them out. Obviously, some problem manifested that a century hasn’t changed.

31 — Maldos wrote at 6:17 AM on February 27:

White people leaving can’t be the problem, the population of this place seems to be increasing. Unless the folks over in Pennsauken are telling us that there is some inequality between the whites that have removed themselves and the new darker inhabitants that remain?

That would be a disheartening turn of events. Naturally however, because that simply can’t be the case (because it offends our precious sensibilities), it must be because of some lingering effect of racism and segregation. Like in South Africa.

When will the white man learn that all the worlds people are equal. Or more appropriately, when will they learn the opposite?

Maldos

32 — Jay wrote at 7:42 AM on February 27:

To poster #13, yes, we will socialize with some latinos and asians. Some latinos are basically caucasian who come from spanish speaking places. I was surprised to meet 100% Italians and Englishmen whose families had immigrated to Chile in decades past, also Argentina, etc. That was so incongruous to what I always thought. Even many mulatos are part white to one degree or another and have good values. (The latino gangbangers, however, can move on please).

As far as Asians, I have known many nice Asian people in my life and have socialized with some and, like everyone else, there are good and bad, but at least they have a modicom of civilization.

I must say, however, and I do not consider myself prejudiced at all, but 90% of the Afroamericans I have met, interacted with or observed have been very uncivilized, loud, uncouth, scary, etc… 10% have been good, but I would not want to take my chances with 90% bad to see the 10% good.

The other day I was out for a walk at night in my neighborhood. I live in a very urban area. The thought struck me that I could walk out at night because my neighborhood had zero blacks in it. Everyone around here is white, asian and a few other, but no blacks at all. I marveled over this for a minute. In a neighborhood that was more black I woud not/could not do that.

I already told my wife and she agreed that if and when blacks ever start moving in, we’re outta here. Already I send my kid to private school because the public schools all over this city are majority black/low class latino. When I fear leaving my house at night, it’s over. How can we blame any whites anywhere who want to live in safe places? Just because black neighborhoods are not safe is no excuse to make extra efforts to help blacks escape them. As the famous article in the Atlantic magazine explains it, crime follows the exodus of blacks wherever they go.

33 — Anonymous wrote at 8:16 AM on February 27:

Want whites to stay? Stop robbing, raping, assaulting, and murdering us. If that’s too hard, perhaps a cessation of anti-white rhetoric would be a good start.

34 — Alansdottir wrote at 8:34 AM on February 27:

#7 sbuffalonative — “However, proximity to whites is not working to improve their overall condition. Being near whites can’t help them bridge thousands of years of evolution.”

Sadly, I feel that I must contradict you on this point. Being near whites CAN and DOES help blacks win in the long run, through the process of interbreeding. Besides being taken care of for all of their natural lives, their descendants will profit and live very well off of the stolen genes that their dark fathers stole from the wombs of white women. Be it rape or societal coercion, they will profit handsomely from this genetic redistribution of wealth. Of course, any white man who freely GIVES his genetic inheritance away is equally at fault in the long run …

35 — sbuffalonative wrote at 9:02 AM on February 27:


If you want to know what happens when an ‘troubled’ inner-city youth is given a chance to turn his life around by moving to the ‘racist, lilly-white’ suburbs, look no further than the example of Curtis Byers.

This guy, Curtis Byers, was born trouble. He got into so much
trouble in the city that they thought moving him to the white suburb might civilize him. It didn’t. He savagely attacked a white wresting teammate who required skeletal facial reconstruction.

Buffalo News article:

http://tinyurl.com/ylpyfqk

Local Buffalo News:

http://tinyurl.com/yjxdnlx

36 — Anonymous wrote at 10:01 AM on February 27:

Also in the Philly Inquirer newspaper this article is from:

- At 80, burglar apparently wasn’t fixed for retirement

- N.J. man charged in kidnap of girl

- Ex-aide says Veon ordered illegal work

- Man charged in tot’s kidnap

- Pottstown man charged in ‘08 home invasion

37 — Anonymous wrote at 10:13 AM on February 27:

oops, the brainwashing wore off… wrote at 10:43 PM:
“—as always, the insulting misuse of a term borrowed from psychotherapy—paranoia—by people who can charitably be called “sub-genius”. (This also goes for any use of words ending in “-phobic” or “-ist” by the Nat Norments of the world.)”

It is no accident these terms are used and not merely insult is intended. The Soviet Union had special hospitals for those who just didn’t see the joys and benefits of socialism. Also, remember the story of the guy who threw paint on Chairman Mao’s Tienanmen Square portrait years back. Who they released him to his family he was a helpless mental wreck.

38 — Anonymous wrote at 10:20 AM on February 27:

“People were asking why I, a black man, wanted more white people living here…We were coming at it from a practical standpoint…
When a town gets below 50 percent white, it makes it very difficult for the town to maintain services.”

Proving yet again, that diversity (newspeak for “integration”) only benefits the minorities.

39 — Lilith Whyte wrote at 11:32 AM on February 27:

“People were asking why I, a black man, wanted more white people living here. It wasn’t an easy sell, said Adams, 50, a real estate assessor.”

*What was Mr. Adams’ answer to the mean-spirited, racist blacks that didn’t want to Celebrate Diversity by having more Whites living in their neighborhoods?

“We were coming at it from a practical standpoint… When a town gets below 50 percent white, it makes it very difficult for the town to maintain services,” Adams said.

*Of course! For minorities, “Diversity is Strength.” But how are Whites rewarded by welcoming Diversity?

“According to studies, he said, the market value of homes tends to decline as more minorities move into a neighborhood.”

*So while Diversity strengthens the lives of minorities, it diminishes the quality of life for Whites. How should Whites feel about that?

“That spiraling down is mostly the result of paranoia, says Nathaniel Norment Jr., chairman of the African American Studies department at Temple University. “It’s something that’s created based on white people’s fear of being close to black people,” Norment said.

*In other words, it’s Whitey being “ignorant and racist.”

“There’s this myth we have that blacks’ moving in will change the social environment.”

*But Mr Adams (the black real estate assessor) claims that more blacks mean lower property values. Is he racist, as well?

40 — Anonymous wrote at 11:37 AM on February 27:

Besides everything else, try reversing this article’s references to white people and “people of color,” and see whether it would pass the racial smell test. It would, but only in the nostrils of those who believe that all whites are racist and “people of color” cannot be.

41 — ACE2X wrote at 2:49 PM on February 27:

Remember, for blacks to consume more than they produce,
they depend on those who produce more than thy consume.
That’s why the worst thing that can happen to blacks is
to have to depend upon one another. They require a lifetime
subsidy to achieve the quality of life they cannot earn.

42 — Charles Martel wrote at 5:32 PM on February 27:

Remember, for blacks to consume more than they produce,
they depend on those who produce more than thy consume.
That’s why the worst thing that can happen to blacks is
to have to depend upon one another.

Indeed - and virtually every black-majority country proves it. Also, this is why Obama is essentially nationalizing state budgets, forking over hundreds of billions to states with budget troubles. Overburdened California taxpayers can move to another state if the CA gov’t gets too greedy. Leaving America, though, is a bit more difficult.

Despite their protestations of racism, blacks flee black countries for white countries and flee black neighborhoods for white neighborhoods. They’ll even risk their lives to get away from countries where they are the majority. Shortly after arriving in the new, white country, the protestations of “racism” begin. Yet they still never leave.

43 — Anonymous wrote at 5:35 PM on February 27:

The only way for an average African to obtain a high standard of living is to live amongst Europeans or NE Asians. Africans all over the world realize this. This is why Africans everywhere (from Africa to Haiti to Detroit) will do anything they can to escape from other Africans and get to a predominately European nation, city, or community.

They know that if they are forced to live around other Africans, their lives will be miserable. The thing is, this strategy works for a while. At first, when Africans make up only 5% of a population, they do quite well. But as more and more Africans move into an area, and the population becomes predominately African, then wealth, safety, culture and society all plummet, back to the African base-line.

44 — Jay wrote at 9:04 PM on February 27:

Do you want to know how to cure the scourge of diversity and unwanted people moving in to your town? There are seven simple steps:

#1 Make sure your town has no public social benefits whatsoever. Instead, there can be an unofficial non-public network of “friends” who pay an informal tax to a trusted treasurer to give to those in need. Outsiders cannot join the informal network without permission of a 60% secret ballot. Would the Somalis stay in Maine if they lost all benefits? Not a chance.

#2 Keep your town rural in nature with no built up areas where undesirables would hang out. You can have a small main street, but of the one horse town variety. No dance clubs, no liquor stores, no bodegas and no large grocery stores or big box stores. Small neighborhood grocers, little specialty shops, etc.. These are places that gangbangers do not like because there’s nothing to do.

#3 Do not tolerate drug addicts in your midst (meth, coke, weed, etc.) This will bring gangs who will use the addicts to expand the usage among your teens. People will have to be vigilant and even spy on the teens in the local area. Any who look like they are going the burnout path need to be reported to law enforcement and - if they don’t shape up - harassed out of town.

#4 Do not allow apartment buildings or attached houses in your zoning laws. These bring undesirables. Single family homes with yards as large as possible. The inner city masses cannot stand open spaces and cannot afford large homes. Keep schools on a small scale. No mega schools with pools and 5,000 seat auditoriums. More unwanted discrimination suits will follow. No busing in or connections to mass transit.

#5 Have a police presence that is visible and vigilant. You may pay more in property taxes, but where would you go if you have to abandon your town to the voodoos? Volunteer police, citizen’s watch, etc will all play a role.

#6 Do not speak to reporters or liberal looking outsiders of any kind. Then you’re just inviting attention to your shangri-la and lawsuits by the diversity-minded government. Look at Westchester, NY or the last two white co-op streets in the Bronx.

#7 Stand your ground. All neighbors must agree that they will not budge this time. The zoning laws have got to be tough. No one will sell to an undesirable. This must be unspoken and unwritten. Sell by word of mouth only, not through any realtor. If someone undesirable does move in, the people need to shun them to make them want to go. We’re running out of safe spaces in Amerika. We have to draw a line somewhere.

45 — Charles Martel wrote at 9:40 PM on February 27:

At first, when Africans make up only 5% of a population, they do quite well. But as more and more Africans move into an area, and the population becomes predominately African, then wealth, safety, culture and society all plummet, back to the African base-line.

A white who moves from a European country to the United States may increase his income, on average, by 10-30%. In some cases (a white coming from Norway or Switzerland, for example) it may actually go down.

But a black moving from a sub-Saharan African country to any white majority country will increase his income (not excluding welfare) by 10 or 20 or even 100 times.

We act as though the process of moving from Third World Country X to White Country Y is transformative in some way. This is some form of silly modern alchemy, trying to convert lead into gold. The fact is that there is no such process. Most of us have moved at some point in our lives, perhaps from one city to a culturally very different city. And while that move might have changed us in ways we feel are significant, the truth is an observer from the outside wouldn’t really think so. The British colonists who settled the United States, Canada, New Zealand, Australia and South Africa sure as hell didn’t “go native” when they settled these lands, and the resultant society looked far more like their home in Britain than they looked like the “countries” they displaced.

Countries are the way they are mostly because of the people who live there, and not because of geographical magic.

46 — BRIGAND wrote at 10:17 PM on February 27:

Take a look at what Darlene Hannah Collins said:
“…if whites want to leave and not live next door to people of color, you should let them do what they want to do.”
Since when does somebody in the government have to “let” me do “what [I] want to do”? All this time I thought I could decide where to live, but according to Ms. Collins, the government will make that decision for me.

47 — Anonymous wrote at 3:03 AM on February 28:

I remember a while back on c-span I think , there were these white liberals discussing the way kids segregate themselves at lunch in public schools . And of course the liberals were somewhat upset by it all . Suggesting that students be required by rules to sit by someone of another race at lunch . Americans have always moved when and where they wanted , intra-state , inter-state etc and had to answer to no one . I’ve got a sick feeling that soon it will not be so easy . Whenever one decides to relocate , there will be forms to fill out , taxes to pay , permission to obtain and one will have to convince a board that your intentions are not based on race . When I was growing up , you would be sternly admonished if you referred to a state line as a border . Today I hear it quite often . It’s just too convenient for the liberals . I can just hear them reasoning ,” Now you don’t really expect to cross this “border” without papers or permission , do you ? You do know that you are breaking the law ? And that we will be forced to put this your files ?” I’ve seen it suggested several times already that people who work in Dougherty County Ga (largely black, while adjacent Lee is largely white) be required to live in Dougherty . I mean these people are serious , that is the way they think .

48 — SKIP wrote at 6:04 AM on February 28:

All this time I thought I could decide where to live, but according to Ms. Collins, the government will make that decision for me.

You CAN still decide where to live but the government, apparently, will decide WHO/WHAT lives next to you and we know what that means…BLACKS!

49 — kgb wrote at 8:49 AM on February 28:

“People were asking why I, a black man, wanted more white people living here…” said Adams, 50, a real estate assessor.

A fair question…

According to studies, he said, the market value of homes tends to decline as more minorities move into a neighborhood. That translates into lower revenue from property taxes.

“When a town gets below 50 percent white, it makes it very difficult for the town to maintain services,” Adams said.

A fair and direct answer. We are the machine that supports black society and yet a shocking percentage of them insist on casting dispersions upon us.

50 — JewishAmericaFirster wrote at 8:55 AM on February 28:

I still have family in Pennsauken…there is a fantastic restaurant in the town, called THE PUB. If you’re ever in the area, check it out.

It has been sad to watch Pennsauken go downhill since the 1980s…eventually it will completely become the new wing of Camden.

White liberals have sold working-class and lower-income Whites out to the minorities….we are the sacrificial lamb that enables them to live unmolested by the minorities.

51 — MM wrote at 10:17 AM on February 28:

Unfortunately nice little towns and descent neighborhoods all over the country are being destroyed more and more day by day with no end in site.That IS the sad truth of the matter.How do we stop it? There must come a tipping point when decent folks will fight back and not move out.Let’s make them move out instead.Sadly I do not see that happening anytime soon. Teach your children well…..

52 — Just Say No To Mixing wrote at 11:57 AM on February 28:

“When a town gets below 50 percent white, it makes it very difficult for the town to maintain services,” Adams said.

Right, but I tend to doubt that the black speaker here has a correct understanding of what he accidently pointed out. To wit—that it is not merely White tax dollars that keeps the services flowing. Rather, that such necessary modern-day services need to be conceived of, planned, executed and ultimately managed by Whites to be efficient at all. With the exodus of Whites go the indispensable White engineers and managers of said services. Hence, White tax dollars are just half the story.

53 — Martel wrote at 12:25 PM on February 28:

I lived in Pennsauken for 5 years. (1997-2002)After graduating from college it was the only place my wife and I could afford to live. We saved aggressively so we could move out and raise our family in a “better” neighborhood. It was disheartening to listen to the older White residents describe how wonderful Pennsauken was before it started to “change.” When my wife and I had our first child we moved soon after…I’ll never forgot how awful I felt as many of my remaining white neighbors pleaded with me to stay. I just couldn’t put my children through what I knew was coming.

54 — mark wrote at 12:47 PM on February 28:

Re #28 …elitist: Your post points out the obvious paradox of blacks wanting whites to run their lives, yet wish to still protest and revenge themselves when they desire.
I feel however your comment “humiliating blacks by pointing out their mental limitations is not the solution either…”
is wrongheaded. Pointing out a truth is not humiliation. When, eventually, the 28% of the black population that is dangerously pscyho is in prison, tests point out the truth to all concerned. But that usually bounces off the heads of the prisoners. They could care less.
So, I would say the pain of racism is not deeply felt by those blacks that can -and do- harm white people; you know, the muggers, rapists, and murderers. Perhaps a few “elite” blacks need to feel aggrieved to keep their equilibrium; the dangerous blacks, with whom we should be alarmed, aren’t concerned that deeply. They simply want to knock us down and take our money, or lives. For every “Skip” Gates there are a thousand nameless wilders and muggers.

55 — flyingtiger wrote at 2:18 PM on February 28:

I don’t know anything about White Flight. For my experience in Chicago in the 60’s, white people were driven from Chicago. This was encouraged by the white guy who was mayor to bring in a class of people who would support him.

56 — Flaxen-headed Strumpet wrote at 3:49 PM on February 28:

This is a no brainer, no problema situation that is easily solvable. Start a new Cabinet level Federal Department of Internal Migration with its own bureaucracy and administrative courts. Then issue all householder adults an official Migration Review Board card and file and require federal permitting for people to move.

57 — Luke wrote at 4:47 PM on February 28:


“However, proximity to whites is not working to improve their overall condition. Being near whites can’t help them bridge thousands of years of evolution.”

sbuffalonative wrote at 7:04 PM on February 26

You are correct, sbuffalonative. And, this is why when your doorbell rings and you open the door, on your porch is a young black sex-obsessed and unabashedly aggressive male who is there to ask to see your white daughter - and, if you are the typical race whipped, gutless white coward of a Father, who is more terrified of being called a racist than he is of embracing the genocide of his genetic lineage - you’ll let this genetic WMD into your house and bite your tongue, as your daughter shows her disrespect for her own white parents and gleefully smooches her ‘trendy black boyfriend’ and feels so happy to be following the anti-white media’s message that spells the extinction of people of European descent.

You see, it is nature’s way for all species to try to upgrade their genetics and survival probabilities and blacks have been given the green light by the Cultural Marxists to fish in the White man’s pond - which serves their agenda of white genocide, and the #1 reason this works is due to white racial cowardice.

A Lesson to be learned: Have a talk with your kids about race and genetics, and about that evolutionary totem pole and which direction - up or down - is the best path to seek.

Simple, huh?

58 — WR the elder wrote at 7:25 PM on February 28:

According to studies, he said, the market value of homes tends to decline as more minorities move into a neighborhood. That translates into lower revenue from property taxes.

While it is true that if enough black people move into a neighborhood the property values go down (because it becomes a less desirable neighborhood) it is not true that that necessarily makes property taxes go down. Property taxes work like this: A town decides that it’s going to spend X. It adds up the taxable property values and gets Y. So it charges a tax rate of R = X/Y. If Y goes down X doesn’t go down, instead R goes up. Plenty of people have found that after their property got reassessed after the crash that their property taxes are as high as ever.

The real reason property taxes go down when blacks move in is because they don’t make as much money as whites so governments can’t squeeze as much money out of them. Blacks like to move into white neighborhoods because not only are there better schools and lower crime but they get to take advantage of a level of public benefits that is mostly being paid for by white people.

“When a town gets below 50 percent white, it makes it very difficult for the town to maintain services,” Adams said.

So Adams is admitting that diversity is a major cost. I’m glad to see the mainstream news reporting that.

When it comes to paying their hard earned money I suspect that few whites are going to be fooled into thinking that diversity is an asset.

59 — Fed Up wrote at 8:46 AM on March 1:

“That spiraling down is mostly the result of paranoia, says Nathaniel Norment Jr., chairman of the African American Studies department at Temple University.”

I like that one… “Paranoia.” Have to remember that one. Call it an awareness of reality. More wordy, certainly. But also one hell of a lot more accurate, being based on our knowledge of what happens as the Black population rises. No. You’ll never get a Black “expert” to admit it. But then you’d never expect a Liberal or a Black to admit that. That crime, squallor and other problems climb in direct proportion to the size of a Black influx is a given. Having been too well proven in too many communities throughout our nation. But the liberal fools will never learn.

Friends of ours, living in the Northeast part of Philly refer to it as the “creeping Black Death.” With good reason.

60 — Fed Up wrote at 12:36 PM on March 1:

Same old story, really. As Blacks move in, the community deteriorates. A reality that’s been proven, over, and over, and over again. Across the width and depth of our nation. Only differnce today, from 40 years ago, it’s not just an influx Blacks that can destroy a community, an influx of illegal Mexicans does an excellent job of destruction also.

61 — Fed Up wrote at 12:47 PM on March 1:

What I personally am intrigued by… the inability of Black leaders to understand (or admit) the real cause of White flight. Roughly 15 years ago, a company my friend work at as plant manager, left Philly… as much because of the crime and vandalism by neighborhood Blacks, as that of the union members’ insatiable demands. If Blacks truly were the kindly, industrial and hardworking people portrayed in that film classic, “Out of Africa”, there would be no problem. No White Flight. Unfortunately, however, this is the REAL WORLD! With Blacks having earned the negative impression Whites have of them… a million times over. I urge any scoffer or doubter of this to drive slowly through West Philly or North Philly. Or to speak with White residents who remained in formerly all-White communities. Like Willingboro, ten miles east on Route 130.

62 — Fed Up wrote at 12:49 PM on March 1:

Camden, somewhat northwesterly of Pennsauken, was also a once-White majority community. But that was “then and this is now”… with Camden murder-rate per 1,000 inhabitants an all-time high. With Blacks and Latinos forming the population of Camden.

63 — Anonymous wrote at 1:32 PM on March 1:

Solution to White Flight:
1. Leave blacks and other ‘minorities’ in the US.
2. Bring every last black from Africa and any other Haiti type environment to the US
3. Export all whites to an empty Africa
4. All blacks get to be in America where they think they can make it big
5. All Whites go to a country filled with natural resources to capitalize on.
Results:
America becomes what all black nations become, providing Obama stays here which he would have to.
Africa becomes the richest and most prosperous continent in the world.
A wiser White Africa provides for absolutely no immigration, period.

64 — Gary wrote at 1:34 PM on March 1:

“Fifteen years ago, residents began an effort to try to stem the “white flight” that…was threatening Pennsauken. The strategy, as refined over the years: Market the town’s diversity as an asset.”

“Tours led by the township for prospective residents emphasize Pennsauken’s multiculturalism, and new-resident meetings encourage interaction across racial and class lines.”

Oh, that’ll get folks all eager to make the largest long-term investment of their lives in a community - black folks, that is.

Any normal person should ask him(her)self, why the white flight?
What do these people pulling up stakes and getting the hell out of Dodge(Pennsauken) know that I don’t?

Could it be all that wonderful multiculturalism - complete with unsafe streets, grafitti, vandalism, drug peddlers, gang thugs, and upwardly spiraling violent crime stats? (the inevitable “assets of diversity”).

65 — William Hendershot wrote at 3:39 PM on March 1:

“inner circle” suburb is the new term to hint around that it’s a black suburb. It’s a term that is used to infer that as communities grow old, they naturally have high crime, foreclosures, and poor schools, regardless of the racial makeup. This article could apply to any number of suburbs in Cleveland, but Maple Heights comes to mind. In a little over 10 years this once working class white suburb has become 90% black and along with this demographic change has come the usual black pathologies. I just feel so bad for the poor whites who couldn’t get out.

66 — JewishAmericaFirster wrote at 4:31 PM on March 1:

The white liberals are the cause of all these problems. They have made a “separate peace” of sorts with the blacks…the white working class has become the sacrificial lamb. The blacks get to ruin the white working-class neighborhoods and schools, if they leave the neighborhoods and schools of the white liberals alone. It certainly has turned out that way, hasn’t it?
This is why I say the white liberal is our true enemy. Always has been, since the time of the War Between the States, in fact.

I have experienced white flight once in my life: when my childhood neighborhood turned all Asian. We were the last white family to move out. The Asians were not the problem; the blacks being drawn to the area were.

67 — Anonymous wrote at 5:23 PM on March 1:

“Remember, for blacks to consume more than they produce,
they depend on those who produce more than thy consume.
That’s why the worst thing that can happen to blacks is
to have to depend upon one another. They require a lifetime
subsidy to achieve the quality of life they cannot earn”.

Are you still talking about blacks to the end there or is this about America?

68 — Anonymous wrote at 5:41 PM on March 1:

If their main problem was really not enough whites to go around you’d think they’d be doing something to alleviate the problem. Instead it seems to be working out the opposite way all around the world.

69 — Anonymous wrote at 6:16 PM on March 1:

Not one white community in America has been made better due to an influx of blacks, hispanics, muslims, and indians…

70 — SKIP wrote at 2:01 AM on March 2:

it’s not just an influx Blacks that can destroy a community, an influx of illegal Mexicans does an excellent job of destruction also.

I have been to Mexico countless times, as have many here no doubt, and also to Central and South America and the “mexicans” here illegal are usually the troublesome Indian types from Guatemala, Hondo and El Salvadore and such places (and of course the usual drug dealers). The REAL Mexicans generally stay in Mexico or travel back and forth between there and the U.S. as we citizens travel between states. Just my opinion and observation from being in the “trenches” so to speak.

71 — Nick the Aussie wrote at 6:14 AM on March 2:

Heres to honesty. Nice to read some truth about the reality of whiteflight. Even the so called ‘minorities’ are starting to realise whites bring stability and income something they do not.


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