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Do You Need Diversity Training?

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Lizz Carroll, DiversityInc., October 26, 2009

Are you unwittingly offending people in your office? Do you say things that cause others to wince or lose interest in having a collaborative relationship with you? You may be in need of good diversity training. DiversityInc put together a list of signs to show where you might be making cultural missteps.

To understand what effective diversity training is—and how to measure its results—visit www.DiversityIncBestPractices.com/training.

1. Race/Ethnicity

How do you interact with people from different races and ethnicities in the office? Have you ever found yourself complimenting a Black person on her ability to articulate well? Did you tell a Latino coworker that you were surprised he didn’t have an accent? Do you think an Asian-American coworker is in an accounting position because “they’re all skilled at math”? Have you ever said “you people” when referring to members of a different race and ethnicity?

When Linda Akutagawa, senior vice president of resource and business development at Leadership Education for Asian Pacifics (LEAP), hears negative terms like these in a professional space, she feels it undermines the overall strength of a company. “When you start to hear somebody say ‘people of your culture’ or ‘you people,’ it’s a whole ‘us-versus-them’ [mentality]. It sends a bad message of ‘It’s not all about us, it’s me, and then there’s you guys.’”

Click here to read “10 Things NEVER to Say to a Black Coworker.”

Click here to read “10 Things NEVER to Say to Latino Executives.”

Click here to read “Things NEVER to Say to Asian Coworkers.”

2. Gender

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3. Age/Generations

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4. Orientation

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5. Disability

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6. Religion

If a coworker openly displays religious symbols at his desk, wears garb that reflects faith or takes days off to observe religious holidays, this does not give you the right to probe more deeply about this very personal subject. Inappropriate questions can range from asking about dress, the strictness of their practice or questioning their accommodations (e.g., schedule changes).

Click here to read “5 Things NEVER to Say to Muslim Coworkers.”

To read more about why mandatory diversity training is necessary, visit DiversityIncBestPractices.com.

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Original article

(Posted on October 27, 2009)


Things Never to Say . . . .

DiversityInc.

. . . to a Black Coworker

DiversityInc. staff, July 17, 2009

1) You’re so articulate

You’re so articulate? Smart? Different? Yes, the speaker may intend a compliment, but what may be meant as praise instead comes across as being condescending. It implies the person being complimented is an exception to the rule and is exhibiting behavior atypical of others of his or her ethnic background.

{snip}

2) Is That Your Real Hair?

{snip}

3) “You” people

{snip}

4) Do you eat a lot of (plug in the offending stereotype here)

Some stereotypes simply refuse to die. There’s nothing wrong with natural curiosity about the ethnic eating habits of some of your coworkers. The problem lies in focusing on stereotypical Black fare such as fried chicken, watermelon, etc. It reveals the speaker has a very limited and narrow perception of Black culture and cuisine.

{snip}

5) Why are you so angry?

This one is more often directed at Black males, thanks in large part to the media, which often portrays Black men as being angry and/or criminals.

6) Why are you acting white?

Consider this a relative of “You’re so articulate.” Why would exhibiting proper behavior, manners or dialect be categorized as acting white? If that’s the case, what does it mean to act Black?

7) You don’t sound Black over the phone.

What does Black sound like?

8) I don’t think of you as Black.

{snip} Although the words and the sentiment are insulting, the person expressing them is (usually) not consciously trying to insult you. In their backward and ignorant way, they are actually trying to give you a compliment.”

9) You graduated from where?

{snip}

10) The N-word

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. . . to Latino Executives

DiversityInc. staff, April 10, 2009

1. “Don’t worry, you’ll get the promotion, you’re Latina.”

This comment tells the Latino person that his or her ethnicity speaks louder than accomplishments; it’s a classic affirmative-action stereotype that Latinos and Blacks deal with constantly. {snip}

2. “When did you arrive in this country?”

This comment assumes that everyone of Latin descent is a foreigner.

3. “Hola! Habla Ingles?”

This question is patronizing, especially when those three words are the only Spanish the speaker knows. Just speak English.

4. “Do you live with your parents?”

Don’t assume that because someone is Latino, he doesn’t live on his own. {snip}

5. “You’re not like them.”

“My first response is ‘How do they act?’ because I might say, ‘Well, I do act like that,’” says Huerta.

6. “Can you show me your knife?”

Raymond Arroyo, chief diversity officer at Aetna, No. 48 on The 2009 DiversityInc Top 50 Companies for Diversity® list, was asked this question by a sales associate 20 years ago when he traveled to Toronto with three other Latino executives. At the time, mainstream news reports out of New York City told about Puerto Rican gangs wielding knifes. {snip}

7. “Why don’t all you Latinos stop doing that?”

This statement assumes that because a person is Latino, he or she can influence an entire group. Latinos certainly are a varied group, from different countries of origin and with different race/ethnicities/cultural background. Lumping them all together is a common and silly assumption.” {snip}

8. “You’re not white.”

Earlier in his career, Preuss was filling out forms as a new employee when a human-resources executive asked, “What are you?” Preuss, who is from Argentina and whose grandfather is from Germany, has a typical “white” look. Latinos can be of any race.

9. Butchering a Latino’s last name.

“It’s no one’s fault,” says Preuss, who has given up trying to correct people who mispronounce his last name. {snip}

10. “Do you speak Spanish?”

“That’s code for, ‘How Latino are you?’” says Henry Hernandez, a management consultant and former vice president of diversity and inclusion at American Express, No. 14 on the DiversityInc Top 50. {snip} But you can’t make an assumption that because someone is Latino they’re bilingual or that they’re first- or second-generation [U.S. citizen]. {snip}”

. . . to Asian Coworkers

Kevin Canessa Jr., May 13, 2009

{snip}

“Can’t you ‘Americanize’ your name?”

Not only did Brown suggest to an Asian American that “your citizens” change their names, she said it would be unfair for “us” to have to learn Chinese to better understand surnames. Michael Yaki, a political consultant and attorney in San Francisco, wrote on SFGate.com that Brown’s comments were not only inappropriate, they were factually incorrect.

“Last I checked, one of the most common Chinese surnames was still Wong. And Chin. And Lee. One syllable. I guess I’m a bit confused as to how these names are ‘difficult’ for voter officials in Texas to figure out,” Yaki writes. {snip}

“If war broke out between your native country and America, which side would you support?”

The late Iris Chang wrote several books on the Asian-American experience, including “The Chinese in America,” an honest chronicle of how Chinese people have been treated as outsiders in this country. Chang was fueled to write her bestselling book because a junior high-school classmate asked this very question: “Her question, innocently put, captures the crux of the problem facing the ethnic Chinese in America. Even though many are U.S. citizens whose families have been here for generations, while others are more recent immigrants who have devoted the best years of their lives to this country with citizenship as their goal, none can truly get past the distinction of race or entirely shake the perception of being seen as foreigners in their own land.”

{snip}

“You must be the IT person” or “You must be so good at math.”

{snip}

“Implicit in that statement is that you’re good at numbers and technology, so you’re good behind the scenes,” explains Allan Mark, who is Chinese American and the America’s director of diversity strategy and development, for Ernst & Young (No. 3 on The 2009 DiversityInc Top 50 Companies for Diversity® list).

“You’re not exactly leadership material.”

For Asian-American executives who recently immigrated to the United States, the stereotype is two-fold: Not only are they viewed as not being leaders but their cultural norms are interpreted by U.S.-born executives as passive.

{snip}

. . . to Muslim Coworkers

Gail Zoppo, August 25, 2009

{snip}

1. “Why can’t Muslims decide when Ramadan starts?”

Since the Islamic calendar is lunar, Ramadan is determined by the sighting of the new moon, which varies from year to year. And like other faiths, there are interpretational differences in beliefs. “In America, there are two groups of Muslims: The first believes you can use scientific data to determine when a new moon can be sighted, and thus you can predetermine the month,” says Nadir Shirazi, creator of “The Ramadan Guide for the Workplace.” The second group, he says, “believes that you must sight the new crescent moon with the naked eye.” So the start/end dates of Ramadan, depending on the practices of Muslims in your workplace, may be different. This year, the holiday can start at sunset on the day proceeding Aug. 22 (or 23) and end Sept. 19 or 20 (or 21). Providing flexible hours and allowing floating holidays will permit employees of Islamic and other faiths to celebrate their holidays without using all their vacation time.

2. “Why can’t you eat today?”

During the month of Ramadan, Muslims fast during daytime hours, so scheduling office parties, fall festivals and luncheon meetings at that time “puts a Muslim coworker on the spot [and] can be embarrassing for both parties,” explains Shirazi.

Education and consideration are key. “The ideal thing is don’t schedule office parties during these times,” says Niham Awad, founding member of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the nation’s largest civil-liberties organization for American Muslims, based in Washington, D.C. {snip}

3. “But you don’t look/dress like a Muslim.”

With an estimated 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide, to think all look and dress similarly is a stereotype.. {snip} Conversely, asking a Muslim woman why she doesn’t cover her body in a black niqab or drapery is equally inappropriate. {snip}

4. “I didn’t know you were Arab.”

This is another culturally insensitive comment. The reason: Only about 20 percent of Muslims worldwide are Middle Eastern. “Muslims are Black. Muslims are white. Muslims are senators—they’re in the White House,” says Chebli. (According to The Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life, three senior leaders in the U.S. government who are Muslim include: Dalia Mogahed, senior analyst and executive director of the Gallup Center for Muslim Studies; Ebrahim “Eboo” Patel, founder and executive director of Interfaith Youth Core [Mogahed and Patel are on the Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships]; and Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn.) According to the American Religious Identification Survey, 10 percent of Muslims are Latino, 15 percent are white, 27 percent are Black and 34 percent are Asian.

5. “Why can’t you pray on your coffee break?”

Depending on the times allowed for office breaks, this comment can violate religious rights. That’s because “Muslim prayer must be done within specific time frames,” says Awad, adding that the second and third prayers are during business hours. What’s more, Muslim prayer involves standing up and bowing on the floor, which can be awkward to perform in the workplace. It’s also preferred that prayer be done in a group. Progressive companies will designate a private room or other facility for group prayer. On Fridays, when Muslims are obligated to pray in mosques and not in the office, “companies must give an extended lunch hour,” explains Awad. Companies such as Ford Motor Co., No. 28 in The 2009 DiversityInc Top 50 Companies for Diversity®, are involving their interfaith-based employee-resource group to help give members space to share experiences and ideas of religious accommodation. “These are not only constitutional issues,” says Awad, “but when you have a friendly work environment, you will have better performing and more loyal employees.”

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Comments

1 — Chris N. wrote at 6:47 PM on October 27:

DiversityInc put together a list of signs to show where you might be making cultural missteps.

I think a more accurate sentence would have been, “DiversityInc put together a list of signs, any one of which will illustrate your need to contract our services immediately!”

2 — Daniel wrote at 7:01 PM on October 27:

If you are a white male the best thing you can do is never say anything because if you open your mouth chances are that someone will be offended for some reason. The main reason they are offended is because you are still alive and they think your time in the sun is at an end.

3 — romanviking wrote at 7:07 PM on October 27:

Just for curiosity’s sake….

What are the ten things never to say to a white co-worker?

4 — Eric wrote at 7:17 PM on October 27:

Perhaps white employees should just refrain from talking to these aggrieved minorities altogether, but I guess that would make you even more in need of diversity training.

5 — Civilized Neighbor wrote at 7:35 PM on October 27:

“If war broke out between your native country and America, which side would you support?”

The late Iris Chang wrote several books on the Asian-American experience, including “The Chinese in America,” an honest chronicle of how Chinese people have been treated as outsiders in this country. Chang was fueled to write her bestselling book because a junior high-school classmate asked this very question: “Her question, innocently put, captures the crux of the problem facing the ethnic Chinese in America. Even though many are U.S. citizens whose families have been here for generations, while others are more recent immigrants who have devoted the best years of their lives to this country with citizenship as their goal, none can truly get past the distinction of race or entirely shake the perception of being seen as foreigners in their own land.”

—-

And the answer to the actual would question would be? Well, China, of course.

6 — loudmouth57 wrote at 7:53 PM on October 27:

It seems like its a good idea to say as little as possible but that would also appear to be racist.Maybe we should just ask (plug in the minority)what we are allowed to say.

7 — A.G. wrote at 8:17 PM on October 27:

Are you kidding me? Who on earth asks those types of questions? I’ve never heard anyone ask a Black person or Latino any of those questions and I’ve worked everywhere - from Corporate America to a warehouse. I am offended by the patronizing attitude of this article.

Just say no to wrongheaded diversity training.

8 — GreatNorthWoods wrote at 8:20 PM on October 27:


“Things you should never ask a white person”. Ooooops! They must of conveniently forgotton to include that one.

White liberal facillitators shoving this biased garbage down other whites throats burns me to no end.

The ONLY reason white-run businesses hold these workshops is to give themselves leverage in a court of law involving charges of race or gender bias.

White- run corporations smirk at these diversity workshops just like we do but profits come first so the end justifies the means.

Because of the corporate policies in place in regards to race, white men have nothing to gain from this but everything to lose. They’re trying to teach us normal whites how to walk on eggshells and we better not break any.

Diversity worshops are insulting to whites and thats why we resent them.

GNW

GNW

9 — GenX in Oz wrote at 8:28 PM on October 27:

…to White Coworkers

1. “Wow, it is so easy to become an American these days.”
2. “Once you’ve finished training me, I will be taking your job.”
3. “Do you know that my presence is undercutting your value.”
4. “Don’t work so hard, you’re making the rest of us look bad.”
5. “You have no culture.”
6. “You’re the wrong color to get that promotion.”
7. “Immigrants like me built this Country.”
8. “They can’t fire me, they’d have a million dollar lawsuit on their hands.”

10 — ranger wrote at 8:38 PM on October 27:

Diversity training, black/white achievement gaps, charges of racism, non-white crime and violence, sensitivity training, teaching tolerance, on and on and on, are all irrefutable indicators that multiculturalist/multiracialist societies are failures, because tremendous amounts of time and money have to be spent in order to try to maintain a semblence of order.

All these weaknesses and problems are either absent or small by comparison in homogeneous societies.

Nothing speaks louder of the failure of “diverse” societies than the constant number of problems that have to be attended to on a daily basis or the entire society breaks up into angry mobs.

The ironic thing here is that even with all the above remedial action taking place, multiracial/multicultural societies still remain on the brink of disaster every day, 24/7.

That doesn’t sound like a strength to me. Maybe they should push for a slight change in the leftist slogan and amend it to say, “Diversity is a disaster.”

11 — ConservativeCitizen wrote at 8:53 PM on October 27:

“What not to say to a White heterosexual male” is glaring in its absence. I guess it’s open season on us and any offense is to be endured since we are the “oppressor” and deserve every degradation, snide remark, and worse. “Ingsoc” is alive and well.

12 — 9mmMax wrote at 9:02 PM on October 27:

I don’t need any help with diversity. Racial and/or cultural diversity is an unmitigated disaster here and everwhere else it is tried in significant numbers! If anyone can find a single situation where racial and/or cultural diversity is a strength, please publish your results for the benefit of all.

13 — Sissy White wrote at 9:03 PM on October 27:

…and then gang, there are 10 things never to say to White People….

1.Thank you for freeing the slaves.

2.Thank you for the large welfare payments.

3.Thank you for all the food stamps.

4.Thank you for affirmative action and busing our kids into your neighborhood.

5.Thank you for not enforcing the American/Mexican border.

6.Thank you for your women.

7.Thank you for letting us steal your secrets to help Red China/Korea/Japan.

8.Thank you for letting us take over your universities and force you out of a college education.

9.Thank you for not complaining.

10.Thank you for not rising in righteous wrath and taking back your country.

14 — Anonymous wrote at 9:04 PM on October 27:

Wow! And I certainly don’t see ANY prejudice against whites in this article whatsoever. Notice none of the questions were, “Do you blame whites for all your problems? Do you automatically assume all whites are oppresors?”

15 — NBJ wrote at 9:08 PM on October 27:

Just where is the list for 10 things NEVER to say to WHITE coworkers? After all, these lists were made for US to tip toe around these people, does it not cross their minds that we can be offended as well? I actually had a black coworker tell me what beautiful hair I had for a white girl. Can you imagine if I had said the same to her?

16 — Mike Harrigan wrote at 9:20 PM on October 27:

Sure are a lot of rules about what you can and cannot say to a lot of people. Now I know how to act around most folks. Only problem is how do I act in front of white people? Lizz Carroll covered all the pc rules on everyone but white folks. I guess it must be ok to do and say anything in front of whitey. Is that what you are saying by leaving white folks out Mizzzz Carroll?? That you have to tiptoe around on eggshells with everyone except whites??

17 — David H. wrote at 9:39 PM on October 27:

What about the unwritten rules for blacks and “latinos” when dealing with us white folks?
NEVER say:
1- Please
2- Thank you
3- Excuse/pardon me
4- May I…
5- I apologize/I’m sorry
6- I can…
7- That IS my job
8- I pledge…
9- Let me introduce you to my wife
10-Allow me to…

18 — Tom in MI wrote at 9:40 PM on October 27:

I think the above lists should be shared with Japanese workers. This might help their workers to be as productive as American workers. Before you know it the quality of a Toyota will match that of a Chrysler.

19 — White, Jewish, and Proud wrote at 9:52 PM on October 27:

5) Why are you so angry?

“This one is more often directed at Black males, thanks in large part to the media, which often portrays Black men as being angry and/or criminals.”

Incorrect. This one is directed at Black males because they ARE, on the whole, innately hostile, belligerent, angry, and violent.

20 — flyingtiger wrote at 12:10 AM on October 28:

To avoid trouble, you should only talk to white people. It is time for none whites to develop a thicker skin and a sense of humor.

21 — Henry wrote at 1:05 AM on October 28:

Why are there no things you should not say to white people. I guess no one has to worry about insulting them. Or maybe so called white people are just to diverse to classify.

22 — Anonymous wrote at 1:58 AM on October 28:

What about starting such diversity training in African, Hispanic and Asian countries? Does Saudi Arabia has diversity training to teach Saudis how not to offend Hindus, Buddhist and Christian workers? In a sane world, Lizz Carol and the entire Diversity Inc team would be laughed out of the country.

23 — Anonymous wrote at 2:29 AM on October 28:

These are natural reactions to any of the aforementioned races/ethnicities being seen in the workplace; legitimate ones, as well.

“You’re so articulate”

- This really made me LOL, because most whites, even liberals, are fully aware that most blacks are barely literate; even amongst college grads. Heck, it’s one reason why our Communist in Chief was/is lauded so. Whites are so taken aback when meeting a black that can read, write and articulate their thoughts in a coherent manner; it’s akin to a scientist discovering a previously unknown species of animal.

The questions asked of Latinos are all legitimate concerns. Same goes for the Muslims.

24 — WR the elder wrote at 3:07 AM on October 28:

Isn’t diversity grand? You can offend people by saying just about anything! You have to pretend not to know certain truths, such as the fact that most American blacks do have a recognizable accent, distinct not merely from the speech of whites but of second generation Asians (who have the same accent as white Americans).

I find it interesting that “progressive companies” should provide a private room for group Muslim prayer, when those same companies won’t even put up a Christmas tree for fear that it will insult some non-Christian.

“If war broke out between your native country and America, which side would you support?”

It seems to me this is a fair question to ask of any immigrant. It was certainly an issue among German, Italian, and Japanese Americans during World War II. (Granted, it would help if my country wouldn’t be so quick to get into wars with just about anybody.)

“Can’t you ‘Americanize’ your name?”"

Well, one Chinese man where I work has a name that is unpronounceable as it is spelled. It has an insufficiency of vowels. We joke about it. He agrees, it’s spelled very weird.

“Don’t worry, you’ll get the promotion, you’re Latina.”

I have no sympathy for people who belong to one of the privileged groups that receive affirmative action and are sensitive to remarks like this. If you don’t like such comments, work to get affirmative action abolished.

25 — Flaxen-headed Strumpet wrote at 7:10 AM on October 28:

I slummed around DiversityInc.’s web page. They are in the business of more than just publishihing an activist web page. They sell the whole package of “Mandatory Diversity consulting/training” to corporate America. We could refer to this as a slick, highly refined, and very adaptable (up to and including the creation of new classes of diversitoids that need “special handling” in the corporate world) version of the Jackson/Sharpton model.

http://www.diversityincbestpractices.com/bp/

I found the following piece of opening copy from the above link particularly fascinating:

“What’s the most effective type of diversity training? It depends on the corporate culture and issues such as geography and employee-base size.”

I’d say that that nugget, ipso facto, is prima facie evidence that this outfit engages in preprogrammed discrimination based on geographical regionalism.

26 — Anonymous wrote at 7:12 AM on October 28:

What it means is that anything any White says can get him fired. He has no defense and no recourse. He is always wrong.
On the other hand, anything that a non-White says or does to a White doesn’t count.

27 — ic1male wrote at 9:13 AM on October 28:

What a load of rubbish. I feel the politically correct age is coming to an end. Obama’s bubble is bursting and even blacks and Asians are on record saying they prefer to live by Europeans than their own. Keep the faith my friends.
http://northfieldpatriot.blogspot.com/

28 — Shawn (the female) wrote at 10:17 AM on October 28:

Personally, I like this option: Don’t speak to them. Period.

29 — Aaron wrote at 11:58 AM on October 28:

Gee, they spell “Black” with an upper-case “B,” and “white” with a lower-case “w,” how shocking.

Of course, many items on those lists are rooted in fact (such as assuming that Asians tend to be less outgoing, or asking a black “why so angry?”), but saying them aloud is pretty obnoxious.

We should come up with a list of thigs TO say to White co-workers:
1) “white” begins with a lower-case letter, “Black” begins with an upper case letter.
2) “White people are so priveleged.”
3) “Only white people can be racist.”
4) “Only. White. People. Can. Be. Racist.”
…and so on…

30 — Frank wrote at 12:31 PM on October 28:

Yhis may be the dumbest thing I have ever read. We are supposed to tailor what we say depending on the audience, rather than say what we believe?

31 — sbuffalonative wrote at 12:46 PM on October 28:


Interacting with minorities is like swinging a stick around a hornets nest. The chances of saying something ‘offensive’ (or more likely something they can you to destroy your life) is too high to risk.

Your best bet is to avoid interactions when you can. Don’t go out of your way to make friends (you can’t, it will backfire). Be cordial when you’re in close contact but keep a personal distance. Better to be accused of being rude than a racist.

32 — Mark wrote at 1:08 PM on October 28:

Why is this article so long? All they had to say was: (1) If you are white you must cater to all the whims of ANY non white, sexual deviate, or Invader to America. (2) As a white anything they want to say or do to you, is okay. THERE YOU HAVE IT IN A NUTSHELL, WHAT WAS SO HARD ABOUT THAT?

33 — Alexandra wrote at 2:06 PM on October 28:

Just don’t say anything to anyone, or else you might offend someone somehow.

Sensitivity training? People are too sensitive as it is.

34 — Melvin wrote at 2:53 PM on October 28:

For crying out loud, what in the world can you say to these people anymore that don’t ofend them. Are they that thin skinned? Maybe I am offended when they come to my country from some third world hell hole then start telling us what is wrong with America. No one drug you here. If you don’t liike it, go back to the paradise that you left, because YOU offend me.

35 — Whiteplight wrote at 3:10 PM on October 28:

Many of the “Things you don’t say…” are fit for any comedy routine. But seriously, all this combined must demonstrate why this nation has lost its sense of humor and why it is impossible to “diversify” a nation to the degree we are being forced into and still remain a nation.

36 — Anonymous wrote at 7:21 PM on October 28:

The rationization might be that we live in a move sensitive time now, but, I don’t by it. After all this sensitivity training, the enlightened use the word ‘redneck’, a racial slur, in an effort to prove to everyone how enlightened they are.

37 — JokingButNot wrote at 9:57 PM on October 28:

The easiest way not to offend anyone is not to talk to them at all. I’ve learned never to ask people about their ethnic background, unless they’re lily-white, as these days whites are the only ones not carrying a massive chip on their shoulders.

Even so, these lists of rules are nonsense for an even better reason: Humans love - love - love to talk about themselves. Give them half a chance to tell you everything you don’t want to know about their group (or disability, or whatever), & your co-workers will talk your ear off, questions or no. If only a mere question could shut them up.

38 — Captain Jack Aubrey wrote at 8:54 AM on October 29:

I received my diversity training living in Seabrook, MD and attending Prince George’s County public schools during the school busing era of 1973-1978. And it has made me a hardened person well-knowledged in the imperfections of minorities, notably blacks.

39 — Allan wrote at 12:16 PM on October 29:

Re: Latino names:

Sonia Sotomayor has a good German last name which she mispronounces and doesn’t seem to have the intellectual curiosity to learn to pronounce correctly. This name is probably the result of an effort of the Spanish government in the 1700’s to get Roman Catholic Germans to immigrate to the Spanish colonies, as the British were trying to get Protestant Germans to immigrate to the British colonies.

The fact that Ms. Sotomayor doesn’t know how to pronounce her name correctly does not mean that I have to mispronounce it.

40 — Bon, Tax Slave of Kalifornia wrote at 11:02 AM on October 30:

I read through all of the posts, many of them excellent, and found this one from sbuffalonative to be the more pertinent:

“…Your best bet is to avoid interactions when you can. Don’t go out of your way to make friends (you can’t, it will backfire). Be cordial when you’re in close contact but keep a personal distance. Better to be accused of being rude than a racist…”

The only change I would make to this statement would be to change ‘cordial’ to ‘civil.’

I was at a very large teachers’ meeting a few years back when an angry black took the podium and claimed that “someone [White] said ‘you people’” There were immediate, loud, angry cries of outrage with calls to ‘bring forth the racist!’ There was pure, raw, fury that went on for a long time—I got a good dose of murderous black anger and I believe if a White had been identified as the utterer of these words (whether he actually said them or not matters not), he would have been physically assaulted and definitely would have lost his job and pension before the day was out.

I heard comments such as: “This society be racist!”, “They want to hold blacks down!”, “A black can’t get a break!” I’m sure if Whites weren’t present it would have been ‘Kill Whitey!’

I saw an intense hatred for Whites—even though most of them are barely literate, the product of AA mandates, quotas and extremely lowered standards—courtesy of White taxpayers and other White largesse.

The best course of action, as buffalonative writes, is to speak and interact with hyper-sensitive, hair-trigger blacks only when forced to do so. One must keep in mind that the government favors them, not you and if you are accused of ‘racism’ you have little to no recourse.

A lot of blacks, of course, want to hit the ghetto lottery and/or retire early with the winnings from a lawsuit and they are looking for any excuse possible to collect money. I’ve seen many of them go out on phony ‘stress leaves’ or school-related ‘accidents’ (like a slip and fall) then immediately claim they are permanently disabled and cannot work ever again.

Bon

41 — Bon, Tax Slave of Kalifornia wrote at 11:41 AM on October 30:

ranger writes:

“…multiculturalist/multiracialist societies are failures, because tremendous amounts of time and money have to be spent in order to try to maintain a semblence of order…”

Yes, this is a given with blatant empirical evidence all around us. If multi-culturalism were so wonderful, its proponents would live in ‘multi-cultural’ cities and send their own children to ‘multi-cultural’ schools such as Richmond High, instead of living in cities such as Chappaqua NY that is 90% White or sending their precious children to the exclusive Sidwell Friends in DC. These utter hypocrites mandate diversity for YOU but not for themselves [ just as they exempt themselves from government-rationed health care].

The failure that is multi-culturalism will require more and more government force to keep in place. And the current administration seems to be stepping up its efforts to place refugees into White cities, move Section 8 housing into White neighborhoods and enforce more ‘diversity’ into the workplace via civil rights lawsuits sponsored by eric holder and czars that are accountable to no one.

I’m also hearing disturbing calls for an internal army. Obama’s handlers fed the following into his tele-prompter during the campaign:

“…We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded,” Obama told a Colorado Springs audience earlier this month…”

http://tinyurl.com/nty5b6

What would be the purpose of an internal army? To enforce diversity? To restore ‘order’ when the economy collapses? To make sure you hand over your wealth? Or to create an authoritarian government/ police state lorded over by Hostile Elites answerable to no one?

The old Soviet bosses and Stalin himself would be proud.

Remember this quote from Jefferson (whom the educational system tells us is an ‘old dead White slaveholder’ and therefore irrelevant):

“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”

So which is it American? Stalin or Jefferson? You’d better make a decision before it’s too late.

Bon

42 — ghw wrote at 11:03 PM on October 31:

“If a coworker openly displays religious symbols at his desk, wears garb that reflects faith or takes days off to observe religious holidays, this does not give you the right to probe more deeply about this very personal subject.”
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I disagree! To the contrary, if they are making a public display of it, as having a picture or religious symbols out on their desk, then they are inviting curiosity and are leaving themselves open to friendly questions. Not all questions are necessarily hostile; and perhaps they want the questions. But if this is truly a deeply personal matter to them, then they should keep it private and not put it out before the public.

This is like saying that if you don’t want people to gape at you, then don’t dye your hair green and walk down the street naked. But if you do, then don’t complain about the attention you get.

43 — ghw wrote at 11:26 PM on October 31:

Allan wrote at 12:16 PM on October 29:
Re: Latino names:
“Sonia Sotomayor has a good German last name which she mispronounces and doesn’t seem to have the intellectual curiosity to learn to pronounce correctly.”
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Don’t you read any of these other posts by other people? It has been said here repeatedly that Sotomayor is NOT a German name, not even in the slightest. It is VERY Spanish. It has no connection whatsoever with German. You should confine yourself to speaking about that which you know.

And incidentally, Spanish is one of the great European languages, in case you don’t happen to know that. (And no, I am not Spanish — no axe to grind here!)

If you want to find nits to pick, you could do better. I have no gripe with well grounded criticism. But absurd stuff like this is just baseless and idiotic. It’s embarassing to Amren. What do you want her to do — change her name because you THINK it sounds German? Well, it’s not.

44 — Flaxen-headed Strumpet wrote at 7:27 PM on November 1:

RE: #43 and #39—0I never gave it much thought one way or the other. To me she’ll always be Sonia Sodacracker.

45 — Anonymous wrote at 11:33 AM on November 2:

So if blacks are superior to whites, as they claim, then why are they always whining about their “struggle”? Why do they whine that getting through the day “being black” is hard enough? If you are superior, then you don’t complain and you don’t whine about being oppressed.


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